Prophecy - Body Shell Abuse.wmv

[NeLTzON]

Hi i am always looking all the vids you're making and this make me want to do a presentation about the prophecy. It's an awesome loader and i am a french student in Math spe (PSI*) i dont know if you know what is it its an high ranked math and physic studie to become an engineer. And i have to do a presentation about something in what we are interested in. And i want to choose the prophecy. And i wondered if you can help me in because i need technical documents and values stuff like if u can

[paintcrazed]

Well, my feedneck broke.....another like$ 50 to get a whole new set....that's not good

[jsc1992]

Loder: Why?!?!?

He: Because i like to spend money!

He: Lets get the electrical shut

[SideWaysAllDay69]

This video if not true I was taking mine apart two fays ago and pinched the feedneck and shaped it rite off

[TeamC00L]

Yes, Simon helped too, supporting local shop by buying one here next Friday

[TeamArmageddonPB]

@TeamC00L

Prophecy.

Points: Prophecy has rip drive, rotor only has trigger.

Prophecy weighs less.

Prophecy = $120, Rotor = $200.

Convinced?

[TeamC00L]

Prophecy or Rotor?

valid points please not just, "it's the best"

[ModernWarfare2Godz]

should i get a speedfeed for it?

[sethboy66]

@ModernWarfare2Godz YES!!! its much easier than the normal lid.

[PaintballShyguy]

Now i wonder if i made a mistake buying a different hopper..i didnt choose the prophecy because my past experiences with halo and empire hoppers being extremely fragile or just cracking on their own just sitting around..

[SWPaintballTech]

But will it blend ?

[SWPaintballTech]

But will it blend ?

[SovietPB]

Nice Job. If it can withstand that it

Can withstand few paints hitting it or a bad slide.

[sethboy66]

@SovietPB it could take probably 1000 paintballs ;) or more.

[INSAN3LUIS]

make a better test like that dye guy that burns, drops it and put it in a water recipient

and now i wanna see the whole hopper not just the shell

[loganinderrieden23]

Prophecy sooo much better than a rotor

[madpaintballer33]

hahah im so glad i got the Prophecy instead of the rotor these things are orgasmic lol

[ExtremeHDGaming]

wow now im glad i have a prophecy

[THESKINIMIN1234]

i havent had my prophecy for a year and the back body shells don't align and so the loader isn't right what should i do

[manike99]

@THESKINIMIN1234 Check my other assembly videos. Something simply isn't assembled correctly.

[THESKINIMIN1234]

@THESKINIMIN1234 yeah ever since it happened i have been watching them and have done everything right but something simply isn't right

[Pbafterlife]

Hey i have a problem, i live in norway and have been using the prophecy for about a year now. But last weekend i went playing some reball and i went for a snake dive, over shot and hit with my left side first, and my prophecy started spinning in the feedneck. when i got of the field i could see that my feedneck insert was intact but my bodyshell had snapped around it, and i wonder. Is this maybe a production error or something, cause my feedneck insert (plastic one) didnt have a scratch, thx ;)

[manike99]

@Pbafterlife Contact the UK KEE company and ask for John Sosta, he should be able to help you out. :)

[wtfkid313]

Lol are those reballs stuck at 2:18?

[manike99]

@superinsanepballa123 Yes they come with the aluminium feedneck stock now.

[GoPaintman]

What is that marker at 3:38 ?

[TheFunnyKillerBunny]

Can i have that loader for cheaper? XD

[mrnothgiel]

The feedneck on my prophecy broke on the nose cone, weird... Where could i get a new one?

[mrnothgiel]

The feedneck on my prophecy broke on the nose cone, weird... Where could ik get a new one?

[IABAMF77]

i have the prophecy and i cant put it back togather right... the metal feed neck rattles and is not on right and i cant fix it..... o and by the way dont stand on the side of the nose It WILL break trust me

[JBC007]

wtf he beat the shit out of the nose but why not the rest of the loader??

[DCsk8er90]

They did that to show that rain doesn't affect the rotor but I'm going wit the prophecy

[shawdabest]

if you want to get a loader/hopper get the rotor alot better

[charlieDetroit]

this is hilarious! you should do it with the other nose cones too, although I assume they're the same story

[miniDULTEN]

WERE CAN I BUY THIS?:OO thats sick!!!

[masterxpb]

hits it in the strongest part with a hammer on a rubber mat wich will absorb a lot of energy

[max3482]

@masterxpb

he has to hit it on the top because if you hit on the side it will asborb the shock and if he didn't do it on a rubber mat then it would slid

e everywhere

[masterxpb]

im just saying he was better off just doing some drop tests etc because there would never be a concentrated force like a blow from a hammer to a paintball hopper

[max3482]

@masterxpb

ya that makes sense man

srry

[masterxpb]

no worries man

[shawdabest]

yes that is so true

[penguintheskater]

dudue thats sick!!!

[zoa1011]

WHAT!?!?! dude my heart jumped when it with stood 250 pounds dude!!

[escapefromhellview20]

When i first dropped my prophecy i though i was fucked. But now i seating here with my prophecy with no breaks or anything.

[Paintball11783]

the horror

[lolkiling]

torque is indestructible empire however is not.

rotor is also rather strong.

[TooJakub]

when will the new hopper/loader likethis coem out and what will it be called

[TILTpaintballx]

not for a long time

[Ryanardo2]

wow..

[bergenser1]

this is bull i broken mine afther 2 trainings

[lolkiling]

900 shells were broken in the making of this vid

[LockONPaintball]

lol

[Dantinus]

Pics or video or it doesn't happen.

[akeene87]

kid that buys a $100+ hopper with his mommys card then backs up on it(which he prob cant put a car in drive) then goes and gets a rotor. I call bs on the whole story you pussy.

[fizz424]

u r stupid and smart at the same time

[sethboy66]

@kx85kid12 the rotor will break too :D

[Egolover900]

thtas cute i bought a prophecy and it jams like a bitch i got destroyed today and it was the first time using it had it set up and everything and the back shell is deteriating like lenses so who cares i can stand on it

[LTDBENJY3]

my prophecy it held together with tape because my feedneck cracked

[HSPPaintballer24]

hey stand on the back of the hopper...

[sethboy66]

the reason he only messes with the front is because that is what is going to be hit with paintballs you rarely get hit in the back of the hopper.

[XSVPUNKk]

@sethboy66 thats dumb though it shoulda been with the full thing because most hopper breaks are from dives not paintball hits

[manike99]

We had some plastics that were made wrong. Sorry. We will replace it for you. Contact paintball solutions :)

[Andrew51734]

It doesnt matter these loaders that are soooo durable are still made in china

[manike99]

If the American consumer would pay more for products then it would be possible to make more plastic items in the USA.

Unfortunately they always speak with their wallets and won't pay the higher costs associated with USA manufacturing on many plastic items, and especially those that need more assembly.

Almost all hoppers are made in the USA. After market Empire Reloader B shells are still made in the USA, as are the basic 200 round loaders.

[weedisanecessity]

simon this is from mike "What the fuck is this we switched to barrel socks now" just playin i love your products including the money even though invert tried to screw me over saying the poppet isnt covered under warranty even though i only had it for three months i am now saving for a prophecy. keep it up simon but please switch from barrel plugs to barrel socksin the mini i bet you guys could do some really cool designs with them

[weedisanecessity]

mini not money

[NPRguitar]

id like to see him put it in water and turn it on then put a torch to it but other than that it is a very nice loader but im gunna get the rotor anyway

[wishihadaname94]

too bad you cant do that with an actual rotor...

i put a rotor in water and it completely stopped working...

[p4intb4llfr3akm4n]

ahahaha thats gotta suck

[jrDOOMx]

yes and y would you put any gear in a torch i can see the water but torch come on man

[WoWbob396]

maybe someone might have accidentially put their hopper in the oven. lol

[thewedding123]

wow. this video just changed my mind about everything. i used to be a rotor man.

:O the hammer. holy cow.

wow. the fact that it didnt shatter is amazing.

[deedum321]

wana sell that i dont even care if you took a shit in it........maybe a little

[zop2o]

were those reballs in the rubber grip sheet?

[manike99]

Reballs or real paint. Every now and then a ball or two gets away from us in testing, and those sheets catch them nicely. :)

[PbEvilStump]

hahaha that last one with the hammer was a good one! hahaha...i actually thought the rotor was stonger...but hows the internals and what not...if you would can you message me what you think about both and which YOU preffer...thank man great job

[manike99]

I think my opinion will obviously be very biased since I am the person that designed the Prophecy. :)

[PbEvilStump]

hmmm....seirously???holy shit i did not expect that but ok....i dont really know what to say...uhhh.....great job i guess?-thumbs up-

[manike99]

Thanks. :)

I design paintball equipment for a living. A lot of the videos I put up are about products I have designed, or that were designed by the team of people that work for me. :)

[PbEvilStump]

no problem...no offence but i just got a rotor yesterday haha...i only got it cuz it was from my sposnor for 100...but im thinking of getting the prophecy just to test it out...nice work and kepp it up

[manike99]

No offence taken, I know many people with both loaders. Many people end up trying them both. :)

[andrew123245]

i just bought a prophecy because of you and you know what I LOVE IT its so sweet

[manike99]

Thanks. :)

[andrew123245]

no thank you

[Tauruspt2]

Simon great job on the prophecy, but for the money what hopper would you prefer me to get im in a little tight budget. Please reply Simon

[manike99]

If you are on a tight budget the BEST loader to get is the new Halo TOO from Invert.

It's fast, and works really well, it comes standard with a freeway anti-jam. It's cheap also and you should be able to get it for under $60.

The great thing about it is that you can upgrade it with any Halo or Empire parts, so as you have money you can update the board, get a speedfeed, or put a rip drive or Magna clutch into it.

Good luck and have fun!

[P8NTBALLER987]

nice tip. does the too, have a really low profile. i dont wanna get it and have it high

[manike99]

It has the same profile as a Halo B. It's lower than a VLocity of Pinokio but not as low as a Rotor or Prophecy.

[P8NTBALLER987]

i already have a hopper, but its an eggy 3. would you think its better to get halob or a halo too. and out of whatever one, do think when i dont need it anymore, i could sell it and get a prophecy. do you think that is a good decision, because im 13 and i obviously dont have a job to be able to get the prophecy. thanks

[AudiKiDD1]

does any1 know what the difference between Prophecy & Magna is, OR which is OVERALL better?

[manike99]

Having designed both, I'm obviously very biased, but the Prophecy is better in so many ways.

I designed the Prophecy over 3 years after I designed the Magna, and put everything into it that I possibly could.

It's lighter, lower profile, easier to clean, easier to work on, higher capacity, better lid opening, less batteries (more battery efficient).

[Tauruspt2]

Thanks Simon!

GReat talking to an expert! :)

Ill check it out, thanks again!

Have a good day!

sincerely, Alex

[mofoxx6]

yeah i do like empire better than rotors. my friend has a rotor and i liked it but not as much as a magna which i have. and do know empire is famous and has been making loaders for years

[mrpinkpony]

rotor owns it

[jfkdidmymom]

y dont you do anything to the back part?

give me that thing ill torture test it for you

[swageronyou]

rotor can suk it the, prophecy rapes it

[dasyck1]

Material is very interesting tho

[dasyck1]

Not as tough as the rotor though look at their durability test lol underwater and took a flamethrower lol

[ImTheCanadianGod]

Get the rotor over the prophecy, much more consistent and dye has better customer service IMO. Also I obviously have played with both no just sayin random shit.

[manike99]

I believe we have fantastic customer service at KEE. I don't think you will find many (any) people that are unhappy with the KEE customer services through Paintball Solutions.

The Rotor is consistent, but out of the box the Prophecy is faster, and gentler on paint, and has less jam issues.

[BadnessPB]

dunno bout that. I sent in knee pads that i got from ANSgear because they came TORN back in MARCH. 3+ months later and I've yet to receive a replacement. I've had to purchase another pair of kneepads because of the ridiculously long wait. How does KEE run things? How can the manufacturer not have inventory for 3-4 months?

[BadnessPB]

oh and to anyone reading this, don't buy from ansgear cause they send you used/broken shit. only buy from them if you absolutely can't find it anywhere else.

[mofoxx6]

is that really true about ans caz i got my magna thier awhile back and it was wrapped a brand new a single scratch

[BadnessPB]

speak english. when you read that sentence do you even know what you are talking about?

[dirtbeast937]

Well, so far empire has not failed me. I love the mask i got, and the pack, and i just bought pants and the zippers on the side pockets got stuck and both broke trying to get it undone. My mom called empire and they said ship the pants in and we'll send a new pair. She called monday so we will see what happens.

[ATLpaintballer]

Prophecy>rotor

Rortrs jam way too much, and the quality conrol is much better at empire. I have a reloader Ba dn a ahlo and am getting a prophecy, and it is much much better, I have used both.

[shocker426]

we dont use barrel plugs any more we went to barrel socks

from mike

[Billoney87]

I am considering buying the Prophecy but have heard horror stories about the shell and feedneck breaking. Simon, is there an explanation for these things happening, even after watching this video showing how durable it is? im not flaming i just want to know if my money would be well spent with the prophecy

[manike99]

The manufacturer screwed up with the resins in the first batches. It's fixed now. Any new loaders will have the correct body shells.

We are quickly replacing any bad body shells and will always look after our customers.

[Tschmidy]

i think rotors and prophecys are way over priced although id say prophecys have more money put into them but they are a little more complicated to fix and the rotor on the other hand is simple but also cheaply built i bet that thing is built for less that $25 dollars

[kralj975]

my feed neck broke after 4-5000 balls shot, otherwise worked OK

how can i claim warranty

i am from europe, croatia

[manike99]

Contact KEE Europe. They will help you out and get you taken care of.

[shocker426]

now i wana get a prophecy just to hit it with a hammer

[sillychink3293]

bullshittt.... my feed neck broke ...

[manike99]

We had some plastics that weren't made properly. Mainly black units. Sorry about that. Contact paintball solutions and we will get it fixed for you ASAP!

[livewire289]

rotors are better cuz they dont break when u run...like mine...

[p8ntballa4life69]

please give better reasons than that

and the only way u broke this loader while running is if u fell down a cliff

the prophecy is better b/c

-lighter

-doesnt jam like a rotor does every 2 seconds

- just as fast

-works w/ reballs

-empire has awesome customer service too

[dmk477]

i play tournaments w/ my rotor every weekend and i havent had one jam yet. one dive into snake with my prophecy broke the feedneck right off

[NoShaDow36]

you guys should make it so you can just buy one of these shells and be able to put halo/reloader b/b2 internals in it

[SupaFly42]

simon! i want to see you throw the entire hopper against a brick wall as hard as you can and that might convinse me to buy it

[porschedriver403]

Thanks they said they want the entire loader back

[porschedriver403]

i hate to say it but hitting the shell with the hammer on the feedneck is junk. playing snake the feedneck broke off the front and the 2 back shell parts.

Simon HELP!!!!!!!! (would calling customer service help??)

[manike99]

Call Paintballsolutions which is our customer service team and they will get you taken care of ASAP.

[nboyy11]

maybe it can do that but the rotor can too and you can put it underwater and you can drop it and you can torch it in my opinion rotor smokes this hopper

[pntballer83]

agreed

[palmer6994]

yeah you can torch it and submerge it in water but all that is useless. unless ur playing on the sun or in a lake.

rotors jam like crazy and break pretty easily, prophecy has different settings to make it work the best for the paint you shoot.

[p8ntballa4life69]

palmer is right on the money

[BadnessPB]

i like to shoot an occasional fireball or two at my opponents on the field every so often. :dodgy:

[crazykilla529]

lol nice vid good loader to

[titusvillepaintball]

dude simon id buy ur invert mini if it came with a warrenty,

does it?

[manike99]

Mini's always come with a warranty, but I don't have any personal guns for sale.

[maydayfire]

run over it with the tires of your car!

[CiRCUiTwAsh0r]

um it looked like u dident want to break it next time jump with both feet and land on it and see what happens

[LastPaintballa]

u only did that to the front shell

what about the back...

[paintballer77110]

although every one thinks the rotor is better than the prophecy and it may be i dont own a prophacey it still is not that great. the rotor in its first stages of design and i know people will say the same about the prophecy but there is a dramatic differance. the rotor is dyes first hopper, empire has been making a hoppers for nearly 7 years or more idk but there products are sure to work and be durable as proven with the empire b and halo b as well as even as the reloder 2 now the invert loader

[allstonator]

its not saying ure going to play paintball in fire.ure not gonna play while hitting ure loader with a hammer either are you? the whole idea was to show what it is capable of.

[carpenterbee10]

nah

[SandSpider56]

You've got to make a video on Prophecy VS Rotor.... In durability!!! That would be great>

[redangeleyes]

But can you hit it with a blow torch?!?!?!? ;)

[momay69]

wow dumb post, everything melts under a blowtorch idiot.

[jnj46]

the rotor didnt melt it just started to bubble

[momay69]

Bubbling means it is starting to melt. So bottom line, plastics will melt. even your car will melt under a blowtorch.

[redangeleyes]

I guess you haven't watched the torture test of the dye rotor yet, they hit it with a blow torch and it still works....do some research before you make idiotic replys.

[momay69]

Let me do the blowtorching, I assure you I can melt it.

[redangeleyes]

again, another idiotic reply. I made a comment on the torture test of the rotor, done by dye, on youtube, so everyone can see. If you choose to be ignorant, that's your problem. I'm sure it can be melted, that was not under question, my question was...can you hit the prophecy with a blowtorch, even for a few seconds, I highly doubt it.

[manike99]

Actually you could very easily. The Prophecy material has extremely good heat resistant properties. :)

Feel free to try the exact same test on a Prophecy and a Rotor at the same time and you will see. :)

[redangeleyes]

haha, i'm sure it could. I'm actually surprised you didn't add that to your vid. I'd actually like to see what it'd look like taped to the exhaust of that twin turbo vette you have...not too sure if it'd handle that!

[momay69]

wow how dumb can you be. Of course it would still run under a blowtorch, he was heating just the shell not the internals and the rotating feeder. Another thing is that it's still a little wet, and the flame is a too far from the shell. You don't even know how a blowtorch work. So STFU noob. lol

[redangeleyes]

How do you know, did you try? Was it propane, or Mapp? "You don't even know how a blowtorch work" You don't even know how a sentence works. You're 100% incorrect, deal with it. The fact that you failed does not surprise me, but to tell someone who's worked with torches for 10 years that they don't know what they're doing.....epic fail.

[momay69]

Lol, you say you worked with blowtorches? Any dumb idiot would know you can melt a rotor with a blowtorch. Maybe you were blowing somebody definitely not a blowtorch. lmao

[momay69]

Wow blowing for 10 years! how old were you then? 5? who are you kidding kid.

[redangeleyes]

Unfortunately I was 18 when I started, and have been using multiple torches including propane, mapp, and oxy acetylene (which would melt any of them instantly). So, to conclude your failures to prove me wrong... There is a video put out by dye, of the rotor being torched. My initial question about this loader was "but can you hit it with a torch?" In other words, sarcasm, you fucking moron. Go spend the rest of your failed life flaming someone else. Of course they'd both melt...lol

[ChocolatePain03]

that was a stupid test when they did that...who the fuck is going to play paintball in fire

[manike99]

Please don't cuss on my channel. Thanks.

[Bloodwake14]

i played on fire..... take that

[p8balldude17]

LOL

[KidInfamous]

ABS plastic at its best lol.

[Collyer26]

Do You Think This Hopper Is To Big For An Invert Mini ?

[killersniper01]

too big? this is smaller then a pinokio, and MIke has showed that a pinokio fits fine on an invert. If a halo can fit on your gun, a prophecy will too ;)

[xAlSharptonx]

I want your job.

[MurKdAMAsK3]

haha yeah i read it down there where he replies to crisp1994

[BadnessPB]

man simon...i waited 2 months to get my hands on this loader...and before i even get to use it, it broke. Merely taking out the battery harness and putting in the batteries, snapped one of the wires that's connected to the motor. I sure hope that you guys rethink the way the wires are connected to the motor on your next shipment. Hopefully Kee will replace this brand new $160 paper weight.

[manike99]

Hey there, Sorry about that. Of course we will take care of you. If you want you can send it back and we'll do it, just call Chris on 1-800-724-6822 ext. 531

Or if you can, or know someone who can, you can solder the wire back on. That won't void the warranty or anything. That would be quicker, and maybe easier for you than sending the whole unit back. Up to you.

Sorry this happened, but we will look after you.

[BadnessPB]

thanks simon. I didn't want to go through the whole process of sending the entire unit back so i did manage to solder the wire back on and it works now. I sure hope this doesn't happen again, because if it does, i'm afraid there won't be enough wire left.

[manike99]

Glad you got it sorted. Don't even worry about it happening again. If it does we'll take care of you.

[MurKdAMAsK3]

ahh i was wonderin why yu had more prophecy videos then officalempire did...but yeah this looks like a good loader but yu dint try any of the test with the rest of the loader

[jazzbandyo]

u should of put it in the vice for the fit hit with hammer lol

[crisp1994]

do you work for empire

[manike99]

Yes. I design the new stuff for Empire. :)