Something else to ponder this scripture: 2 Corinthians 4:16-18
16 For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day. 17 For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory; 18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
Upon viewing your video, I find myself disagreeing with your view points. So lets agree to dis agree in advance. For this simple reason, GOD knows peoples' hearts and their intent on anything they chose to do. Because the inspiration given to the Christian Rock artists is from him [GOD]. Everything that one conceives in the mind, comes from one's heart. And GOD knows ALL. Just something to think about, Luke 16:15. Have a blessed day.
YES ROCK MUSIC IS A SATANIC MUSIC AND SHOULD NOT BE SING BY CHRISTIANS, BUT ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN, BUT A LUCEFERIAN, I CAN TELL BY THE SYMBOLS OF YOUR HANDS.
YOU ARE PLAYING WITH GOD WHEN YOU PRETEND EXPOSING ROCK MUSIC, YOU ARE A FREEMASON WELL TRAINED TO HUMULIATE CHRISTIANITY!!!
LET'S ONLY CHRISTIANS JUDGE THE WRONG DOING IN GOD'S KINGDOM, THEY ARE GENUINE WHEN THEY DO IT.
An evil tree cannot bear good fruit.There are many music forms that are fundamentally evil.It is not possible to change the effect without changing the form.
@betlamed The form of music is the embodiment of the message it contains.It is designed for that purpose.Any attempt to apply,say, rock n roll to gospel music will corrupt the message.Those who do this are merely trying to achieve worldly acceptance.I was in a church for a while that employed a "Christian" rock band in an outreach program.Upon hearing the music,the kids formed a mosh pit.Which I had to break up for fear some would get hurt.
@lifeseeker51 Well, if you take away the words and the history - because both are not part of the form, it could have been invented anywhere - then how do you go about determining the message it contains? What message does a purely instrumental piece contain? What is the message of any arbitrary instrumental piece by Mozart?
@betlamed If rock and roll had a different beat or cadence it wouldn't be rock and roll.It's the beat that conveys the message.Which in the case of rock is, do whatever you want,no harm will come of it.Of course it's toned down somewhat when it becomes elevator music.That's why it has constantly evolved,and the message is now much more to the point than in the 50s.It's purpose though hasn't changed.
@lifeseeker51 Mhm. First it was the form, now it is the beat or cadence. So again, since the form bears a message - please do tell this captivated audience what the message of a few piano etudes by chopin is? Of course, since all music is a rather steady flow of evolution, you as a learned person are surely aware that music was invented before christianity - therefore, all music carries a pagan message, and christians shouldn't play any music at all.
@betlamed I suppose it could be said that all music is made up of all other music.Certainly there are classical notes written into rock. Initially,the subject was whether or not rock,for instance could or should be applied to the worship of God.I say no,because of it's charictor of intentional rebellion against the will and law of God.
Friendly advice to the creator of the video: you started the video with a long introductory speech. That is not the right way to do it. You have probably lost most of your audience like that. The purpose of the video is not to have long speeches, but to show things and explain them. If this speech came at the end of the video, it would be much more effective.
Who is breaking the Ten Commandments? Who has thrown away and not kept the Ten Commandments as instructed to do so for many many generations? Selah I don't need a response, just think and meditate, study and research things for yourself. Little children let No Man deceive you.
I thought God was leading me to certain things too, but the thing was I was leading myself. Remember what God has not made won't stand. Stop putting yokes on people...
@Insanonymous Plus your using passages to back up your false doctrine. Jesus said that Hell itself will not prevail against His church. I saw some of your other videos. You also falsely attribute pagan practices to random things that are completely innocent...
Do you find the fact that you have the phrase "Free Will" in your church name and yet condemn those who don't worship the Savior the same way you do ironic, or just hypocritical?
To "professed" Christians: If this video disturbs you, that is God convicting you. Rock does nothing to glorify God. It for the enjoyment of the flesh. Just adding God or Jesus to the lyrics does not make it Christian. Defending Christian Rock is just rationalizing your sin.
Thats talking about a planet called lucifer that lit up the morning sky,,,, borrowed from ancient religion, now looked upon as evil.... evolve people ,,,its time... if music sounds good ,,,,,it is good ,,,,period
better watch out the churches are not holy anymore, i mean its not like god would give you guys protection in the places he himself visits you every sunday at. yah nobody does anything right when you are a TRUE follower of god. "your churches are all wrong except mine". sigh.... im sorry... i really am... but when will you christians stop fear mongering? here. "though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: For thou art with me" Stop calling everything satan.
@Kylestruth7 amen brother you speak the truth the institutional churches are all corrupted all of these denominations are everything god is not we are supposed to be one in the body of christ but instead were are over 41000 parts of the body of christ why cant we all just stop fighting and love one another like were supposed to as christians the fact that we have instruments is a blessing some countrys dont even have them so stop condeming instruments let anything that has breath praise the lord
@ace666ster hey thats something we all can agree on. i may not be christian anymore, and we all have our disagreements. but preaching the peace and love is something we all can agree on! who said just because we have religious disagreements we cant all get along? you sir have made this a youtube religious discussion win! it gives me hope for humanity. back when i was christian i asked myself what would jesus preach? and its exactly as he did before, no judgement of fellow man and peace.
Does it GET any more racist than this? Let's remember that the Negro spirituals--crying out to the Lord--were what sustained abducted Africans and descendants as they suffered hundreds of years of abuse at the hands of the white slave "masters."
I'm not saying there's no deception by people who use the Christian music industry for personal gain, or that Satan doesn't work in and through music, but to lay this at the feet of African heritage is shameful.
none of you are spiritually enlightened if you dislike christians then why post up in here you need metal help maybe the spirit is trying to save you by bringing you in here this man is so level headed you need to learn only a childish fool would mock something they don't understand music is a key to ones personal views and attitude and he is right about the music and how it nolonger represents god
Upon you Peter I will set my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. Do you know how many people are being saved directly because of contemporary music? Or do you think that from the time Jesus walked the earth that music hasn't evolved?
How exactly is this blamed on Satan? Is it because it's loudish? Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of Christian metal, but come on, man. Music is a form of entertainment. Some don't enjoy the same hymns over and over again. If they want that hymn dripping with double bass and loud riffs, then let them be. Still praise of your Lord. Actually listen to the lyrics, sheep.
I love the oxymoron that is "Free Will Baptist", love it very funny.
Oh, great a LAST DAYS VIDEO, so when do i stop paying me mortgage ?? and can I use the LD as an excuse ? As you use th ebible to tell the future, then can you tell me what loterry numbers I need for next week euromillions, I'll givr you 10%..honest....lol...classic humour, best satire I've seen for ages.
@RealEros1 How about God-fearing conservative Muslims? "Lo! Those who believe (in that which is revealed unto thee, Muhammad), and those who are Jews, and Christians, and Sabians - whoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doeth right - surely their reward is with their Lord, and there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve." - The Holy Qur'an, Surah (Chapter) 2 Al-Baqara, Verse 62. BTW Allah literally means The One True God. Peace brother
I am in a christian rock band called Alibi. If people would just understand that christian rock really is just that, Christ praising rock, then we could reach so many people that might never accept the word, its so sad that the church is trying to dismantle our ministry from the inside out...
Thanks for posting. They used videos in a church I attended with rock music. When I heard that crap, I felt led by the Spirit to the bathroom to take a crap. Fortunately, God closed the church down.
I believe that Satan is referring to setting up himself as G-d in the Temple of Israel-as it says in Daniel and Revelation, in Isaiah 14-we see this lines up with Bible Prophecy. Israel is the Key to Bible prophecy. I don't think CCM is sacred music.
Im with you,,,the conspiracy of the nwo is all around us,,,its real simple,,,how can any bible believer not see it,,,,I hope people figure it out soon bc its coming fast,,,everything dave wilkerson said in the 70s is happening including pole dancing in the church
5:00 "..doesn't have to fool Muslims that are already fooled"
Are you saying the Muslims are in conjunction with Satan? I am guessing it is because of terrorism? I will have you know that most Islamic terrorists are from the Middle East, and most Muslims are actually most predominant in Pacific Asia and even the Caucasus region.
If it is about Jesus... as an ex-Muslim, we DO refer to Jesus (Isa) as the messiah to the Jewish people, but not the God. We still know he was a great person.
@LivingDeadVideos The problem is Isa isn't the biblical Jesus Yahushua the messiah. He was more than a great person. He was the creator in the flesh and blood. (Colossians 1:16; 2 John 1:7) The only way to the father is through him (John 14:6.) You must be born-again (John 3:3-6) and follow everything he says (John 14:15) including (Revelation 22:18-19). Hope that helps. Ask the real Yahushua to enter your heart. Isa is an anti-messiah.
I remember someone saying that if the music excites the flesh, it is evil, and a female preacher said that sometimes she has to check to make sure she isn't dancing for the flesh, but for the Spirit... OK, this seems to me to be that even the religious leaders do not know if they are true to their god. That is scarier than any amount of terrorists on Earth!
you are blinded by religion my friend read psalms 150 1-6 in your bible...god dosnt want your religion he wants your heart..religion is man made..what about christian rock is bad? it glorifies and worships god..how dare you criticize how christians worship god you may not realize this but by you saying that you are saying your a better christian then them cuz you think they worship god wrong and your right you are a very prideful and judgemental man. its a relationship with christ not a religion
@ace666ster Christian rock is bad because it does not glorify God but stimulates your flesh. People on the fence don't want to give up rock but listening to "secular" rock would disturb their conscience too much.
this has to be the funniest thing Ive seen in a while.. music evolves people evolve everything adapts to its environment and changes.. to take Christianity into ur own perspective and preach it, is not Christianity anymore... to be a Christian is to walk in the footsteps and be like Christ... doesn't matter what music u listen to or if put a tattoo on ur body.. it doesn't change ur actions or ur beliefs... to each their own i guess, but ignorance is not wisdom and Jesus was supposedly wise =]
Here are some ridiculous remarks that Mr.Pointyguitars made about his favorate satanic cult groups that he glorifies:
"This is such a great song! Let's face it, Ace Frehley is part of our American national heritage and he defined Kiss! He made me want to take up a guitar and play it loud! Thanks for posting this gem! :"
@jonwalliser Push them away? They're already away. Where's he pushing them to? Hell #1 or #2? Christianity is divisive, not all inclusive. You've been duped by amerikan Christianity which isn't Christianity @ all.
you cant prove hell exists its all based on faith and beliefs, so your arguments fails to do anything at all. Have you ever seen a supernatural creature? I highly doubt it but yet you believe they exist cause thats what you have been raised to believe or whatever. And the funniest part about some types of churches is they think THEY are right and EVERYONE ELSE is wrong! hahahahaha. The day someone can PROVE to me hell and heaven exists is when i will agree with this lame video
@jonwalliser Why you worried if he's pushing people away from Christianity? A Book w/ 100% accurate prophesy says there's a hell. Who should I believe? Jesus or some wahoo on Youtube saying there is no hell?
I never said there is no hell, I said you cant prove there is a heaven or a hell, so telling someone they will go here or there is kinda lame, its all based on personal beliefs and its not something you can argue like you would argue on the war or something like that
Is your brand or preference better because it doesn’t use the same voices, style, or sounds? Is it free from hypocrites? What is the structure that “God’s kind” of music fits into? J.S. Bach was once nearly removed from his position in his church because people thought his rhythms and harmonies were too sinful and sensual. Cultures and music tastes change. Don't even make me cough up a list of fallen pastors who's sin hurt their witness and churches.Christian rock didn't trip them up!
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
Revelation 18:4
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
This man has told you the truth and now he has become your enemy?
Another misguided pastor opinionating Scripture to follow his ideology. This is the classic set up of the Straw Man argument against CCM. "He who frames the question wins the debate." I've seen these types since the 80s when they slammed Stryper, Petra, Rez Band, and so on. They dismiss the Fruit from these bands. Style over substance. And yet they have no documentation or facts that CCM destroys lives, churches, or sends one to hell. Religious legalism! Reminder, they don't walk on water!
@pointyguitarz Plastic fruit, is not real looks real some of it hard to tell apart until you examine it --like a near beer --looks like it tastes like it but has no punch ---fake-- sorry man i dont buy it I have looked deep in to this
I am trying to show you the good and the right way
Robert Sweet"As a matter of fact, the band was one thing that was making us turn and walk the OPPOSITE DIRECTION from Christianity, because, let's face it, when you're out there playing rock 'n' roll, and you're having a real good time doing your own thing it's not that you hate God or anything — you just don't want to think about Christ, because what he does is he exposes a lifestyle. If you're doing something you like doing, AND GOD SAYS NOT TO DO IT then you're not going to pay attention
@eph112joephil Interesting, plus I know Robert Sweet. I also know that there is a sad list of fallen pastors and ministers of the Gospel. Shall I name the sins? Lusting, adultry, fornication, prostitution, drugs, alcohal, pedaphilia, stealing, Well guess what, it wasn't Christian rock that made them screw up. They are human and we all are human. So let me know when you can walk on water. :)
@pointyguitarz there are all kinds of vids on youtube showing exactly this.. the christian church cant seem to get it thru their head. the occult is rampant in the church. it has stolen all kinds of traditions from so many other groups just to keep its control over its followers and togain new ones. and of course they cant accept thier responsiblity for their own actions. they have to blame something or someone else..
@scorand I hear you. The blame game seems to have been running its course since the fall of man. Here it is 2011 and there are misguided "Christians" who even show up at the huge Cornerstone music fest and denounce Christian rock bands. This type of stuff reminds me of the mid 80s when these types of groups would picket Stryper and other Christian metal acts on tour like our band. Micheal Sweet told me to just "shine these groups" and move on in Christ. :) Nice to hear from you.
@filoIII No, you got YOU into secular rock by your own choice and free will. Stryper didn't hold a gun to your head and make you do anything. I've heard this weak convoluted argument for years. Better yet, just come out and tell everybody "the devil made me do it!". I bet you listened to secular music long before Stryper was a thought. Take responsibility for your actions! Or are you weak and immature in the Lord? Time to grow up and stop blaming everything other than yourself! Grow in Christ!
LISTEN ROCKERS AND COUNTER PARTS CROCKERS REPENT OR PERISH.
YOU ARE AND WILL BE WITHOUT EXCUSE SOME HAD SAID I WILL JUMP INTO HELL OH YEA Matthew 22:13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth why you you bind someone if they are not resisting? TURN OR BURN
These wicked cult can not show you where souls were saved by musick they love their rock god notice the little g C.C.M Commerical Contemptible Musick these just make merchandise of Gods people no where on their site is God mentioned P.O.D. says Christian [I think] 2 Peter 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
@scorand and you are lost blinded by your sin you are already in a Satanic cult -Rock and Roll = fornication but you know that -God will never accept worldly methods
@Bibledefender4u 2 Peter 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
@scorand your going to burn unless you turn your just another habituant of the synagoue of Satan once you get there you will know you belong it will be no surprise
@scorand 1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1 Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
1 If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.
2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.
3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast,but do not have love, I gain nothing.
@pointyguitarz I just hate evil, Proverbs 8:13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.Proverbs 17:11 An evil man seeketh only rebellion: therefore a cruel messenger shall be sent against him. This rebellion and I am he
@Bibledefender4u Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.--Apparently standing for separation isn't one of your deeply held values.
@scorand 1 Thessalonians 5:14 Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, comfort the feebleminded, support the weak, be patient toward all men. Watch they sold thiers souls to rock and roll then tell me what you think about your Rock buddies
@Bibledefender4u this scripture has nothing to do with rock and roll.. just another strawman argument to push a particular persons opinion.. this was just another tactic for another cult claiming to know jesus
@Bibledefender4u lol pretty sure when god told us to praise him with music he didn't say what kind. Go back read your bible some more and consult the Holy Spirit Brother!
Hi. I watched all of your video and agree with like 96% of it, but can I correct you in one thing? Music was made for God so I know that you can have Christian music from all types of "genres", because people come from different cultures with different ways of living. I know about music, and almost all kinds of music genres have the same drum rhythm, or similar to it. And you base "rock music" off of percussion rhythms. All I am saying is that you can have Christian rock music, as long as it is
@Bibledefender4u but people like you say that rap is ok.. so its ok to smack your bitch and pimp your ho.. well then again that is in line with how most rabid christians work isnt it.. and dont try to say they dont treat their women that way. i have personally seen this behavior many many times
The Christian rock band Petra sums it up best. They were huge in the 1980's, 90's.
"To say that rock and roll is evil is to give Satan credit for creating it. Satan created nothing. Satan robs and steals. We ask anyone to look at the fruit ... these are young people whose lives have taken positive directions because of the ministry of this band." Paul Jackson, manager, Petra
@filoIII I sincerely doubt you want to "ride this train" to the very end dude! By the way, that website that supposedly has numerous Christians who claimed that Christian rock or CCM made them backslide and go into a sinful lifestyle is debunked. Dial a Truth ministries the source? Sad and fictitious stories!
@pointyguitarz What website you talkin' 'bout? I think I know what helped lead me away from Christ and into the world when I was young. It was "Christian" rock that led directly to AC/DC. They were my favorite band. You tell me if there is any correlation. Just as marijuana is a type of gateway drug, so is "Christian" rock. One of us will have to answer for our stand on Judgment Day. Are you absolutely sure God is fine w/ fornicating musick? If so, no skin off my nose. I warned you.
@filoIII really?? a great musician? .. so far this is nothing but baptist psycobable. heard it all before and i cant even begin to tell you how wrong he is in so many different ways
believe it or not.this can help bring youth to church and to god.being that you probly is a freemason your objection is to find a reason to pull souls away.i didnt see any throw up mason signs.but a couple of your gesters is questionable.pastor.
God made all things, including the instruments we use like guitars, drums, etc.what's important is the heart of the player of the instrument. if your intention is to praise God, so be it. we shouldnt limit the creativity God has given us. He's the one who gave us these talents, so it's just but right to use it for him no matter what the style of music we're using. Godbless.
@vhenmix YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND WITH THE RESEARCH I UNCOVER THESE SO CALLED GOSPEL SINGERS ARE SATANIC WORSHIPERS NO DIFFERENT THAN THE MUSIC PLAYED THEY SHOUT GOD AND SATAN GIVES THEM MONEY READ JOB 9;24 WICKED PEOPLE OPPRESS THE RIGHTEOUS YOU HAVE NO DISCERNMENT LIKE EVERYONE IN THE SO CALLED CHURCH LET ALONE ALL THE PASTORS THAT YOU SEE ON T.V ARE FREEMASONS AND SATAN IS THIER GOD
There's a guy named John Todd an alleged defector of the so-called Illuminati, talks about the satanic in rock music and how this satanic underground has infiltrated Christian music. I don't know that all that's true but makes some interesting allegations.
"a'ight boys, 's alot of demonic activity goin on in the last days. and we need to warn people. lets see we got rob bell, joel osteen, and all these other guys telling us the Bible isn't necessarily 100% true and maybe there are other roads to Heaven after all..." "nnaaahhh.....let's do an extensive study on the beat of modern music and coincidences the artist didn't even know were there that could potentially relate to cultic symbols, some of which satan stole from JEWISH practices anyway" =)
I agree with the melody part, I listened to one of Abigail Miller's scripture songs, sent from our Almighty Glooorious KING LION OF JUDAH!!!!!!! Jesus Christ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Son of God, Son of man, The Risen King Blessed be Him.....and with the melody talent she has it sank right into my brain 1Peter3:15Keep God's word sewn in your heart, and when somebody asks you of the hope you have for the life hereafter tell them with meekness and fear. BAM! Praise the Lord for melody-makers!
Amen! I am a music director in a church and I wholeheartedly agree! Lord, revealed the same to me and told me that I would be the music director 4 yrs before it came to pass. Told me what He wanted. Yes, there is an assault. I have been fought against severely, attacked, and it is the enemy trying to destroy the church. Dreams, and more dreams the Lord has given to me. One was seeing an orgy in the church in plain view (idolatry). Must pray and be courageous with wisdom from God. God bless!
While I fully respect that you have the choice of choosing to have a religion, and you can have your own values
Whether music is Pop, Hymn, Metal or Rap, it's all a form of expression and music which different people find pleasing.
I listen to what you might call 'Nazi' music, but I'm not evil.
As an exploring Atheist/Agnostic, I'll say that 'uber' Christians are ruining the religion, just enjoy the world, its wonders and the creative minds of the people that God put here.
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I know the difference betweeen what is worldly and what is divine, and today's Contemporary Christian Music is anything but divine, I'm in the world, like everyone else, and yes I too am worldly. But even if I wasn't a believer, which I am. I can see that CCM is nothing short of gross blashpemy. The music itself is worldly in it's expression, it's attitude, it's tone, and it's rhythm. Trying to put Christian on CCM is like spraying cinnamon air-freshener on excrement, ignorant of the fact.
thank you for this video very true and educative... ofcourse the fake christians who dont read thier bibles but instead surf the net n facebook or chat on the phone will argue the most...just ignore them , the fact that they are arguin so much with the truth proves how lukewarm they are... God bless you thanks
I made it thought 4 videos! In my opinion you could have made one video; this is just a drugged out legalism and a poor excuse to downplay music that glorifies God! Your message is surrounded by the Drum. That’s all you talk about!......It’s really quite simple, if it glorifies Christ, its good! If you find it important to research each artist, do so! I have seen Benny Hinn and many false profits use traditional music to lead there demonic services. So, now you can’t use that music either!
Stop Spreading Lies! Alleluia7 Stop Spreading Lies! The Devil would only say the things you are saying! You're motive needs an adjustment! not judging you, Just telling you the truth! God is the Voice, The Instruments, Drums/etc.... He is in all things! He said let all the Music in the world praise the Lord, not one style of sound! My God I serve Isn't limited in his Music Creativity! He is the author and Judge of the Music, Not You!
@JesusHeals777 If you are speaking about Alleluia7 spreading lies about this video you need to check yourself. The Devil/Lucifer/Satan would say the things that you're saying. God is not an instrument or the voice of any kind of Rock music (Christian Rock too). He is spiritual that's why we worship him in spirit and not the flesh. (Eph. 5:19) speaks about how to sing to the Lord. It doesn't mention anything about Rock concert or bands. We are supposed to worship God in spirit.
@cobbcopd1My Lord and Savior said that and He is God (John 4:24) God is not in anything that is sinful like Satan or any of his doing. You say you're not judging but that's exactly what you're doing. Paul said it perfect from the Holy Spirit in the spirit we judge all things (1 Cor. 2:15). If the god you serve promotes Christian Rock it's not of God Almighty. You're right if Lucifer is your god he's not limited in his music and he judges music.
@cobbcopd1 777 means Jesus who is Perfect, There is no other GOD, Jesus is Thy Only God, He alone is who i serve. and NO!!!!! God would be saying what I am Saying. I am Not Ashamed of the Gospel of Christ. Who created music? God! Who allowed Music to speak? God! The Devil Never Invented Music! God is an Instrument to all music, God speaks through it all. People that are giving their talents to Jesus, are giving him the Glory of it all is God's Music! it doesn't matter the style.
@cobbcopd1 777 means Jesus who is Perfect, There is no other GOD, Jesus is Thy Only God, He alone is who i serve. and NO!!!!! God would be saying what I am Saying. I am Not Ashamed of the Gospel of Christ. Who created music? God! Who allowed Music to speak? God! The Devil Never Invented Music! God is an Instrument to all music, God speaks through it all. People that are giving their talents to Jesus, are giving him the Glory of it all is God's Music! it doesn't matter the style.
@cobbcopd1 777 means Jesus who is Perfect, There is no other GOD, Jesus is Thy Only God, He alone is who i serve. and NO!!!!! God would be saying what I am Saying. I am Not Ashamed of the Gospel of Christ. Who created music? God! Who allowed Music to speak? God! The Devil Never Invented Music! God is an Instrument to all music, God speaks through it all. People that are giving their talents to Jesus, are giving him the Glory of it all is God's Music! it doesn't matter the style.
@JesusHeals777 continued My Lord and Savior said that and He is God (John 4:24) God is not in anything that is sinful like Satan or any of his doing. You say you're not judging but that's exactly what you're doing. Paul said it perfect from the Holy Spirit in the spirit we judge all things (1 Cor. 2:15). If the god you serve promotes Christian Rock it's not of God Almighty. You're right if Lucifer is your god he's not limited in his music and he judges music.
@JesusHeals777 Ezek. 28:13 says Lucifer was prepared with tabrets and pipes (music) when he was created. After Lucifer fell he became Satan and he still has the same power God gave him. However, he's nothing compared to my God!! 777 hmmm... do you know what that number is associated with? How about Aleister Crowley the man that bragged about molesting young boys. He wrote "Liber 777" and Led Zepplin is fascinated by him one of the members bought his home in Ireland.
@JesusHeals777 Again Rock musicians and it's a number famous is Wiccan religion (Witches). You're starting to reveal who your god really is. Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the TRUTH (Heb 4:6). I do pray that you truly find the God the Creator through our Lord Jesus Christ.
Some points throughout these, but in general I have to disagree. Much of Christian rock is praising God and reminding us of all the help and comfort He gives. Some has helped and truly touched people, myself among them. Regardless of origins, history, etc. If it's used to praise Jesus and help people pay more attention to God in their lives, how can it be called wrong?
Some points throughout these, but in general I have to disagree. Much of Christian rock is praising God and reminding us of all the help and comfort He gives. Some has helped and truly touched people, myself among them. Regardless of origins, history, etc. If it's used to praise Jesus and help people pay more attention to God in their lives, so how can it be called wrong?
Is there something wrong with you? music is freedom and expression. Something you whack job Jesus freaks dont understand. People are so fucking stupid that they will cling to anyone's word. If god didn't wait me to listen to "secular music" he would kill me right know as im writing this and tell me himself that i have it all wrong. And for the record Hinduism is much older then the teachings of Jesus and Christianity. Read a fuckin book, not the bible. Asshole
I used to like Lincoln Brewster (a "Christian" contemporary band)until I saw one of the Album covers where he was showing only one eye "very symbolic" of the occult. So I stopped listening all together.
Any Christian who thinks the noise we heard at the start is of the Lord, definitely still lost. I also do not believe the Holy Spirit is in any of that noise, nor are the people who feed on that filled with the Holy Spirit. However, if the devil can't steal your joy, he will try and disturb your peace, with satanic music that has 'Christian lyrics'
We've been sold a bill of goods... and it was an easy sell, imho
You can tell this guy is a Baptist minister, he is redundant and dull. His heart and soul is in the right place, just the way that he presents it. John Todd revealed a lot of the workings of Christian music and how it is rooted in the occult. Where do you think these Christian artists and churches get the money to fund and form Christian bands and worship services. Find out where the money comes from and who donates it. Wherever money is, there is evil. Money is the root of all evil.
this is great. makes me sick at heart though. anyone ever heard the song "city on our knees" by supposed christian hip-hop artist Toby mac? here's a link. look it up here. very interesting picture he paints...quite honestly, I believe it to be pagan.
5:00 - 5:13 EPIC FAIL! i hate this guy! he thinks Christians are right and everyone else is wrong! hes just a douche.
all these conspiracy theorists and people who think God talk to them and shit like that, are just failures. they are crazy. they are paranoid (conspiracy theorists), and schizophrenic/hearing voices ( god talks to them). they are just straight up delusional.
This is a true story told to me yrs ago,A Paster&Family were missionarys in a primitive place(can't mem where}The paster went away left teenage son,paster come back¬ one member of village went to church,,he went&seen the cheif&asked why!Cheif said your son is playing music we use to conjor up demons with(the drum beat),was Christian Rock,,true story guys
OK. I'm convinced this guy is Christian. He's boring. Did the Book of Revelation ever talk about dying of boredom? Would this count? Is this video considered plague? And do people who listen to these guys realize they are repeating the same basic 7 minutes of fear tactics that Christian leaders have been reciting for decades?
@luciferiexcelsil I read you little blurb on your page about your opinion on religion and I couldn't help but wonder if you'd considered that religion has been altered completely in the minds of most, so you would think this way. Of course you have ;) Good luck and God bless you!
Something else to ponder this scripture: 2 Corinthians 4:16-18
16 For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day. 17 For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory; 18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
noremacys 1 week ago
Upon viewing your video, I find myself disagreeing with your view points. So lets agree to dis agree in advance. For this simple reason, GOD knows peoples' hearts and their intent on anything they chose to do. Because the inspiration given to the Christian Rock artists is from him [GOD]. Everything that one conceives in the mind, comes from one's heart. And GOD knows ALL. Just something to think about, Luke 16:15. Have a blessed day.
noremacys 1 week ago
YES ROCK MUSIC IS A SATANIC MUSIC AND SHOULD NOT BE SING BY CHRISTIANS, BUT ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN, BUT A LUCEFERIAN, I CAN TELL BY THE SYMBOLS OF YOUR HANDS.
YOU ARE PLAYING WITH GOD WHEN YOU PRETEND EXPOSING ROCK MUSIC, YOU ARE A FREEMASON WELL TRAINED TO HUMULIATE CHRISTIANITY!!!
LET'S ONLY CHRISTIANS JUDGE THE WRONG DOING IN GOD'S KINGDOM, THEY ARE GENUINE WHEN THEY DO IT.
mathewmark47 1 week ago
An evil tree cannot bear good fruit.There are many music forms that are fundamentally evil.It is not possible to change the effect without changing the form.
lifeseeker51 2 weeks ago
@lifeseeker51 How exactly do you imagine that a FORM manages to carry a moral value?
betlamed 1 week ago
@betlamed The form of music is the embodiment of the message it contains.It is designed for that purpose.Any attempt to apply,say, rock n roll to gospel music will corrupt the message.Those who do this are merely trying to achieve worldly acceptance.I was in a church for a while that employed a "Christian" rock band in an outreach program.Upon hearing the music,the kids formed a mosh pit.Which I had to break up for fear some would get hurt.
lifeseeker51 1 week ago
@lifeseeker51 Well, if you take away the words and the history - because both are not part of the form, it could have been invented anywhere - then how do you go about determining the message it contains? What message does a purely instrumental piece contain? What is the message of any arbitrary instrumental piece by Mozart?
betlamed 1 week ago
@betlamed If rock and roll had a different beat or cadence it wouldn't be rock and roll.It's the beat that conveys the message.Which in the case of rock is, do whatever you want,no harm will come of it.Of course it's toned down somewhat when it becomes elevator music.That's why it has constantly evolved,and the message is now much more to the point than in the 50s.It's purpose though hasn't changed.
lifeseeker51 1 week ago
@lifeseeker51 Mhm. First it was the form, now it is the beat or cadence. So again, since the form bears a message - please do tell this captivated audience what the message of a few piano etudes by chopin is? Of course, since all music is a rather steady flow of evolution, you as a learned person are surely aware that music was invented before christianity - therefore, all music carries a pagan message, and christians shouldn't play any music at all.
betlamed 1 week ago
@betlamed I suppose it could be said that all music is made up of all other music.Certainly there are classical notes written into rock. Initially,the subject was whether or not rock,for instance could or should be applied to the worship of God.I say no,because of it's charictor of intentional rebellion against the will and law of God.
lifeseeker51 1 week ago
"freewill baptist church?" As in the freewill to enjoy music in any way you choose?
lorendorky 1 month ago
@lorendorky well you have the free will to enjoy anything you want, but you know your responsible before God
lugojiano1 1 month ago
There is no evidence that the NT church ever used instruments. NT made it clear that we are to make melody with OUR HEARTS e.g. SINGING.
Whammo1963 1 month ago
I think sometimes we make too much of such things. However, being blind to it is in no way good either…
nicodemous52 2 months ago
I know of one church who people I work with attend who have spoken about the nwo, why?
gazpipe916 2 months ago
@gazpipe916 because the NWO is almost here, because it's part of the Revelation of Jesus Christ
lugojiano1 1 month ago
Ha! Baptist church! LOL. Freemasons talking about the occult.
Let's get Obama to talk about the anti-Christ!
nickacil 2 months ago
Friendly advice to the creator of the video: you started the video with a long introductory speech. That is not the right way to do it. You have probably lost most of your audience like that. The purpose of the video is not to have long speeches, but to show things and explain them. If this speech came at the end of the video, it would be much more effective.
VojvodinaNet 2 months ago
@VojvodinaNet just click part 2 or fast forward, but intros are important
lugojiano1 1 month ago
This is great video
DavidTabernacle 3 months ago
slayer slayer slayer
horselaverda 3 months ago
Who is breaking the Ten Commandments? Who has thrown away and not kept the Ten Commandments as instructed to do so for many many generations? Selah I don't need a response, just think and meditate, study and research things for yourself. Little children let No Man deceive you.
ClaudeMichaeldotcom 4 months ago
I thought God was leading me to certain things too, but the thing was I was leading myself. Remember what God has not made won't stand. Stop putting yokes on people...
Insanonymous 5 months ago
@Insanonymous Plus your using passages to back up your false doctrine. Jesus said that Hell itself will not prevail against His church. I saw some of your other videos. You also falsely attribute pagan practices to random things that are completely innocent...
Insanonymous 5 months ago
Do you find the fact that you have the phrase "Free Will" in your church name and yet condemn those who don't worship the Savior the same way you do ironic, or just hypocritical?
MrSgtYork 5 months ago
To "professed" Christians: If this video disturbs you, that is God convicting you. Rock does nothing to glorify God. It for the enjoyment of the flesh. Just adding God or Jesus to the lyrics does not make it Christian. Defending Christian Rock is just rationalizing your sin.
Apocalyptical789 5 months ago
@Apocalyptical789 AMEN
CristalCrossUniverse 3 months ago in playlist THE OCCULT IN CHRISTIAN MUSIC, MIKE HOGGARD
Thats talking about a planet called lucifer that lit up the morning sky,,,, borrowed from ancient religion, now looked upon as evil.... evolve people ,,,its time... if music sounds good ,,,,,it is good ,,,,period
IANXNAILS 6 months ago
better watch out the churches are not holy anymore, i mean its not like god would give you guys protection in the places he himself visits you every sunday at. yah nobody does anything right when you are a TRUE follower of god. "your churches are all wrong except mine". sigh.... im sorry... i really am... but when will you christians stop fear mongering? here. "though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: For thou art with me" Stop calling everything satan.
Kylestruth7 6 months ago
@Kylestruth7 amen brother you speak the truth the institutional churches are all corrupted all of these denominations are everything god is not we are supposed to be one in the body of christ but instead were are over 41000 parts of the body of christ why cant we all just stop fighting and love one another like were supposed to as christians the fact that we have instruments is a blessing some countrys dont even have them so stop condeming instruments let anything that has breath praise the lord
ace666ster 5 months ago
@ace666ster hey thats something we all can agree on. i may not be christian anymore, and we all have our disagreements. but preaching the peace and love is something we all can agree on! who said just because we have religious disagreements we cant all get along? you sir have made this a youtube religious discussion win! it gives me hope for humanity. back when i was christian i asked myself what would jesus preach? and its exactly as he did before, no judgement of fellow man and peace.
Kylestruth7 5 months ago
Does it GET any more racist than this? Let's remember that the Negro spirituals--crying out to the Lord--were what sustained abducted Africans and descendants as they suffered hundreds of years of abuse at the hands of the white slave "masters."
I'm not saying there's no deception by people who use the Christian music industry for personal gain, or that Satan doesn't work in and through music, but to lay this at the feet of African heritage is shameful.
Hoggard's true "colors" are showing.
wendlyn67 6 months ago
It is truly frightening that some scatter-brained ignoramus like Mr. Hoggard makes money "educating" children.
MegaLamka 6 months ago
none of you are spiritually enlightened if you dislike christians then why post up in here you need metal help maybe the spirit is trying to save you by bringing you in here this man is so level headed you need to learn only a childish fool would mock something they don't understand music is a key to ones personal views and attitude and he is right about the music and how it nolonger represents god
ElectricElohim 6 months ago
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Upon you Peter I will set my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. Do you know how many people are being saved directly because of contemporary music? Or do you think that from the time Jesus walked the earth that music hasn't evolved?
Insanonymous 6 months ago
we can all agree that christian rock does indeed suck!!
salvadory 6 months ago
this guy is insane- he should pray for his own mental health- !
salvadory 6 months ago
Somebody need a new car and decided to put out some trash talking videos. Hysterical. People believe this crap?
MrKit9 6 months ago
How exactly is this blamed on Satan? Is it because it's loudish? Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of Christian metal, but come on, man. Music is a form of entertainment. Some don't enjoy the same hymns over and over again. If they want that hymn dripping with double bass and loud riffs, then let them be. Still praise of your Lord. Actually listen to the lyrics, sheep.
SkullFuckersInc 6 months ago
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SkullFuckersInc 6 months ago
I love the oxymoron that is "Free Will Baptist", love it very funny.
Oh, great a LAST DAYS VIDEO, so when do i stop paying me mortgage ?? and can I use the LD as an excuse ? As you use th ebible to tell the future, then can you tell me what loterry numbers I need for next week euromillions, I'll givr you 10%..honest....lol...classic humour, best satire I've seen for ages.
bakersteven3 6 months ago
To all God-fearing conservative christians: "Would Hillsong's - hosanna or downhere's - rediscover, be false christian music?"
Thank you; written in sincerity.
RealEros1 6 months ago
@RealEros1 How about God-fearing conservative Muslims? "Lo! Those who believe (in that which is revealed unto thee, Muhammad), and those who are Jews, and Christians, and Sabians - whoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doeth right - surely their reward is with their Lord, and there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve." - The Holy Qur'an, Surah (Chapter) 2 Al-Baqara, Verse 62. BTW Allah literally means The One True God. Peace brother
afg96 6 months ago
I am in a christian rock band called Alibi. If people would just understand that christian rock really is just that, Christ praising rock, then we could reach so many people that might never accept the word, its so sad that the church is trying to dismantle our ministry from the inside out...
Dalejw3 6 months ago
Thanks for posting. They used videos in a church I attended with rock music. When I heard that crap, I felt led by the Spirit to the bathroom to take a crap. Fortunately, God closed the church down.
Makater77 7 months ago
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This lard ass is really grasping at straws
Docthal010 7 months ago
I believe that Satan is referring to setting up himself as G-d in the Temple of Israel-as it says in Daniel and Revelation, in Isaiah 14-we see this lines up with Bible Prophecy. Israel is the Key to Bible prophecy. I don't think CCM is sacred music.
reginaDexant 7 months ago
Im with you,,,the conspiracy of the nwo is all around us,,,its real simple,,,how can any bible believer not see it,,,,I hope people figure it out soon bc its coming fast,,,everything dave wilkerson said in the 70s is happening including pole dancing in the church
candiceevans1 7 months ago
Hip Pop music?
justfourthen 8 months ago
5:00 "..doesn't have to fool Muslims that are already fooled"
Are you saying the Muslims are in conjunction with Satan? I am guessing it is because of terrorism? I will have you know that most Islamic terrorists are from the Middle East, and most Muslims are actually most predominant in Pacific Asia and even the Caucasus region.
If it is about Jesus... as an ex-Muslim, we DO refer to Jesus (Isa) as the messiah to the Jewish people, but not the God. We still know he was a great person.
LivingDeadVideos 8 months ago
@LivingDeadVideos The problem is Isa isn't the biblical Jesus Yahushua the messiah. He was more than a great person. He was the creator in the flesh and blood. (Colossians 1:16; 2 John 1:7) The only way to the father is through him (John 14:6.) You must be born-again (John 3:3-6) and follow everything he says (John 14:15) including (Revelation 22:18-19). Hope that helps. Ask the real Yahushua to enter your heart. Isa is an anti-messiah.
Biblehastheanswer 8 months ago
I grew up in a German/Turkish Islamic family. All I can say is you are like the Taliban trying to abolish music on holy grounds.
As an atheist, even I know it is wrong to judge others by how they worship god or practice their religion.
LivingDeadVideos 8 months ago
I remember someone saying that if the music excites the flesh, it is evil, and a female preacher said that sometimes she has to check to make sure she isn't dancing for the flesh, but for the Spirit... OK, this seems to me to be that even the religious leaders do not know if they are true to their god. That is scarier than any amount of terrorists on Earth!
Schutzraumtechnik999 8 months ago
you are blinded by religion my friend read psalms 150 1-6 in your bible...god dosnt want your religion he wants your heart..religion is man made..what about christian rock is bad? it glorifies and worships god..how dare you criticize how christians worship god you may not realize this but by you saying that you are saying your a better christian then them cuz you think they worship god wrong and your right you are a very prideful and judgemental man. its a relationship with christ not a religion
ace666ster 8 months ago
@ace666ster Christian rock is bad because it does not glorify God but stimulates your flesh. People on the fence don't want to give up rock but listening to "secular" rock would disturb their conscience too much.
Apocalyptical789 5 months ago
We're free to copy and distribute these videos. Really? Why would we want to do that?
Why would I want to perpetuate this nonsense? K
kangtheconqueror 8 months ago
this has to be the funniest thing Ive seen in a while.. music evolves people evolve everything adapts to its environment and changes.. to take Christianity into ur own perspective and preach it, is not Christianity anymore... to be a Christian is to walk in the footsteps and be like Christ... doesn't matter what music u listen to or if put a tattoo on ur body.. it doesn't change ur actions or ur beliefs... to each their own i guess, but ignorance is not wisdom and Jesus was supposedly wise =]
ttomlin85 8 months ago
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Here are some ridiculous remarks that Mr.Pointyguitars made about his favorate satanic cult groups that he glorifies:
"This is such a great song! Let's face it, Ace Frehley is part of our American national heritage and he defined Kiss! He made me want to take up a guitar and play it loud! Thanks for posting this gem! :"
eph112joephil 9 months ago
guys like this push many away from christianity
jonwalliser 9 months ago
@jonwalliser Push them away? They're already away. Where's he pushing them to? Hell #1 or #2? Christianity is divisive, not all inclusive. You've been duped by amerikan Christianity which isn't Christianity @ all.
filoIII 9 months ago
@filoIII
you cant prove hell exists its all based on faith and beliefs, so your arguments fails to do anything at all. Have you ever seen a supernatural creature? I highly doubt it but yet you believe they exist cause thats what you have been raised to believe or whatever. And the funniest part about some types of churches is they think THEY are right and EVERYONE ELSE is wrong! hahahahaha. The day someone can PROVE to me hell and heaven exists is when i will agree with this lame video
jonwalliser 9 months ago
@jonwalliser Why you worried if he's pushing people away from Christianity? A Book w/ 100% accurate prophesy says there's a hell. Who should I believe? Jesus or some wahoo on Youtube saying there is no hell?
filoIII 9 months ago
@filoIII
I never said there is no hell, I said you cant prove there is a heaven or a hell, so telling someone they will go here or there is kinda lame, its all based on personal beliefs and its not something you can argue like you would argue on the war or something like that
jonwalliser 9 months ago
Is your brand or preference better because it doesn’t use the same voices, style, or sounds? Is it free from hypocrites? What is the structure that “God’s kind” of music fits into? J.S. Bach was once nearly removed from his position in his church because people thought his rhythms and harmonies were too sinful and sensual. Cultures and music tastes change. Don't even make me cough up a list of fallen pastors who's sin hurt their witness and churches.Christian rock didn't trip them up!
pointyguitarz 9 months ago
2 Timothy 4:3-4
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
Revelation 18:4
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
This man has told you the truth and now he has become your enemy?
Hetra01 9 months ago
Another misguided pastor opinionating Scripture to follow his ideology. This is the classic set up of the Straw Man argument against CCM. "He who frames the question wins the debate." I've seen these types since the 80s when they slammed Stryper, Petra, Rez Band, and so on. They dismiss the Fruit from these bands. Style over substance. And yet they have no documentation or facts that CCM destroys lives, churches, or sends one to hell. Religious legalism! Reminder, they don't walk on water!
pointyguitarz 9 months ago
@pointyguitarz Plastic fruit, is not real looks real some of it hard to tell apart until you examine it --like a near beer --looks like it tastes like it but has no punch ---fake-- sorry man i dont buy it I have looked deep in to this
I am trying to show you the good and the right way
Bibledefender4u 9 months ago
@Bibledefender4u How can a born again person in Christ, or born again Christians in a CCM band utter "plastic fruit"?
Mark Ch. 3: 23-26 JESUS SAID:
23 And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?
24 And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.
25 And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.
26 And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end.
Get real!
pointyguitarz 9 months ago
Robert Sweet"As a matter of fact, the band was one thing that was making us turn and walk the OPPOSITE DIRECTION from Christianity, because, let's face it, when you're out there playing rock 'n' roll, and you're having a real good time doing your own thing it's not that you hate God or anything — you just don't want to think about Christ, because what he does is he exposes a lifestyle. If you're doing something you like doing, AND GOD SAYS NOT TO DO IT then you're not going to pay attention
eph112joephil 9 months ago
@eph112joephil Interesting, plus I know Robert Sweet. I also know that there is a sad list of fallen pastors and ministers of the Gospel. Shall I name the sins? Lusting, adultry, fornication, prostitution, drugs, alcohal, pedaphilia, stealing, Well guess what, it wasn't Christian rock that made them screw up. They are human and we all are human. So let me know when you can walk on water. :)
pointyguitarz 9 months ago
@pointyguitarz there are all kinds of vids on youtube showing exactly this.. the christian church cant seem to get it thru their head. the occult is rampant in the church. it has stolen all kinds of traditions from so many other groups just to keep its control over its followers and togain new ones. and of course they cant accept thier responsiblity for their own actions. they have to blame something or someone else..
scorand 9 months ago
@scorand I hear you. The blame game seems to have been running its course since the fall of man. Here it is 2011 and there are misguided "Christians" who even show up at the huge Cornerstone music fest and denounce Christian rock bands. This type of stuff reminds me of the mid 80s when these types of groups would picket Stryper and other Christian metal acts on tour like our band. Micheal Sweet told me to just "shine these groups" and move on in Christ. :) Nice to hear from you.
pointyguitarz 9 months ago
@pointyguitarz Stryper got me into secular rock. Care to revisit your hypothesis?
filoIII 9 months ago
@filoIII No, you got YOU into secular rock by your own choice and free will. Stryper didn't hold a gun to your head and make you do anything. I've heard this weak convoluted argument for years. Better yet, just come out and tell everybody "the devil made me do it!". I bet you listened to secular music long before Stryper was a thought. Take responsibility for your actions! Or are you weak and immature in the Lord? Time to grow up and stop blaming everything other than yourself! Grow in Christ!
pointyguitarz 9 months ago
LISTEN ROCKERS AND COUNTER PARTS CROCKERS REPENT OR PERISH.
YOU ARE AND WILL BE WITHOUT EXCUSE SOME HAD SAID I WILL JUMP INTO HELL OH YEA Matthew 22:13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth why you you bind someone if they are not resisting? TURN OR BURN
Bibledefender4u 9 months ago
These wicked cult can not show you where souls were saved by musick they love their rock god notice the little g C.C.M Commerical Contemptible Musick these just make merchandise of Gods people no where on their site is God mentioned P.O.D. says Christian [I think] 2 Peter 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
Bibledefender4u 9 months ago
how about the true occult of the christian church. its manipulation fo scripture to brainwash the masses to follow their fanatical cult..
scorand 9 months ago
@scorand and you are lost blinded by your sin you are already in a Satanic cult -Rock and Roll = fornication but you know that -God will never accept worldly methods
Bibledefender4u 9 months ago
@Bibledefender4u 2 Peter 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
Bibledefender4u 9 months ago
@scorand your going to burn unless you turn your just another habituant of the synagoue of Satan once you get there you will know you belong it will be no surprise
Bibledefender4u 9 months ago
@Bibledefender4u and so are 99 %of all christians for bearing false witness. and thats by their own standard
scorand 9 months ago
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@scorand 1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1 Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
Bibledefender4u 9 months ago
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pointyguitarz 9 months ago
@pointyguitarz another habituant of the synagoue of Satan
Bibledefender4u 9 months ago
@Bibledefender4u
1 Corinthians 13: 1-3
1 If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.
2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.
3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast,but do not have love, I gain nothing.
You should work on your temperment.
pointyguitarz 9 months ago
@pointyguitarz I just hate evil, Proverbs 8:13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.Proverbs 17:11 An evil man seeketh only rebellion: therefore a cruel messenger shall be sent against him. This rebellion and I am he
Bibledefender4u 9 months ago
@Bibledefender4u Proverbs 17:14 Starting a quarrel is like breaching a dam; so drop the matter before a dispute breaks out.
pointyguitarz 9 months ago
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@Bibledefender4u Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.--Apparently standing for separation isn't one of your deeply held values.
filoIII 9 months ago
Christian rock? why not Christian porn? or Christian wife swapping, Rock and Roll means fornication a bad tree cant not produce good fruit
Bibledefender4u 9 months ago
@Bibledefender4u your really brainwashed and not to bright
scorand 9 months ago
@scorand 1 Thessalonians 5:14 Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, comfort the feebleminded, support the weak, be patient toward all men. Watch they sold thiers souls to rock and roll then tell me what you think about your Rock buddies
Bibledefender4u 9 months ago
@Bibledefender4u this scripture has nothing to do with rock and roll.. just another strawman argument to push a particular persons opinion.. this was just another tactic for another cult claiming to know jesus
scorand 9 months ago
@Bibledefender4u lol pretty sure when god told us to praise him with music he didn't say what kind. Go back read your bible some more and consult the Holy Spirit Brother!
figgy4 8 months ago
Hi. I watched all of your video and agree with like 96% of it, but can I correct you in one thing? Music was made for God so I know that you can have Christian music from all types of "genres", because people come from different cultures with different ways of living. I know about music, and almost all kinds of music genres have the same drum rhythm, or similar to it. And you base "rock music" off of percussion rhythms. All I am saying is that you can have Christian rock music, as long as it is
000r3z 9 months ago
@000r3z Musick was corrupted w/ the fall. Not everything that glitters is gold.
filoIII 9 months ago
This junk is not of Jesus -you all just love your sin more instead of the Saviour --Its vomit on our Lords table--
Bibledefender4u 9 months ago
@Bibledefender4u but people like you say that rap is ok.. so its ok to smack your bitch and pimp your ho.. well then again that is in line with how most rabid christians work isnt it.. and dont try to say they dont treat their women that way. i have personally seen this behavior many many times
scorand 9 months ago
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The Christian rock band Petra sums it up best. They were huge in the 1980's, 90's.
"To say that rock and roll is evil is to give Satan credit for creating it. Satan created nothing. Satan robs and steals. We ask anyone to look at the fruit ... these are young people whose lives have taken positive directions because of the ministry of this band." Paul Jackson, manager, Petra
pointyguitarz 9 months ago
@pointyguitarz Christian rock got me into secular rock. I sincerely doubt I'm the only one w/ that story.
filoIII 9 months ago
@filoIII I sincerely doubt you want to "ride this train" to the very end dude! By the way, that website that supposedly has numerous Christians who claimed that Christian rock or CCM made them backslide and go into a sinful lifestyle is debunked. Dial a Truth ministries the source? Sad and fictitious stories!
pointyguitarz 9 months ago
@pointyguitarz What website you talkin' 'bout? I think I know what helped lead me away from Christ and into the world when I was young. It was "Christian" rock that led directly to AC/DC. They were my favorite band. You tell me if there is any correlation. Just as marijuana is a type of gateway drug, so is "Christian" rock. One of us will have to answer for our stand on Judgment Day. Are you absolutely sure God is fine w/ fornicating musick? If so, no skin off my nose. I warned you.
filoIII 9 months ago
@filoIII Good luck with the blame game because it's not going to work. Warn yourself, you have to live with you.
pointyguitarz 9 months ago
"Pathetic Research Ministry" at it's best.
xRokaMicx 9 months ago
@TheOldschool1979 I wish we could joke about that but Christian porn is already real
SolomonGoodwater 10 months ago
This guy has been beaten up several times by metalheads, I presume...
verderf666 10 months ago
@verderf666 this idiot got beatup by the chess club
scorand 9 months ago
@scorand He's a great musician. He knows a little about it.
filoIII 9 months ago
@filoIII really?? a great musician? .. so far this is nothing but baptist psycobable. heard it all before and i cant even begin to tell you how wrong he is in so many different ways
scorand 9 months ago
lol, christians sure are a nutty bunch
AnonymousComrade 10 months ago
believe it or not.this can help bring youth to church and to god.being that you probly is a freemason your objection is to find a reason to pull souls away.i didnt see any throw up mason signs.but a couple of your gesters is questionable.pastor.
MrJahrelle 10 months ago
whats wrong with using instruments for the Lord??? He created these things for us to use it for His glory... dont be close minded...
vhenmix 10 months ago
God made all things, including the instruments we use like guitars, drums, etc.what's important is the heart of the player of the instrument. if your intention is to praise God, so be it. we shouldnt limit the creativity God has given us. He's the one who gave us these talents, so it's just but right to use it for him no matter what the style of music we're using. Godbless.
vhenmix 10 months ago
@vhenmix YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND WITH THE RESEARCH I UNCOVER THESE SO CALLED GOSPEL SINGERS ARE SATANIC WORSHIPERS NO DIFFERENT THAN THE MUSIC PLAYED THEY SHOUT GOD AND SATAN GIVES THEM MONEY READ JOB 9;24 WICKED PEOPLE OPPRESS THE RIGHTEOUS YOU HAVE NO DISCERNMENT LIKE EVERYONE IN THE SO CALLED CHURCH LET ALONE ALL THE PASTORS THAT YOU SEE ON T.V ARE FREEMASONS AND SATAN IS THIER GOD
TheGodkinglord 10 months ago
He needs to lose weight.
daro2096 11 months ago
Guyz... stop with flaunting. It's very unbecoming.
ZillieZephyr 1 year ago
There's a guy named John Todd an alleged defector of the so-called Illuminati, talks about the satanic in rock music and how this satanic underground has infiltrated Christian music. I don't know that all that's true but makes some interesting allegations.
TheGraceofChrist 1 year ago
@TheGraceofChrist I've heard of him and he does make so very interesting points.
yummymaddi 1 year ago
"a'ight boys, 's alot of demonic activity goin on in the last days. and we need to warn people. lets see we got rob bell, joel osteen, and all these other guys telling us the Bible isn't necessarily 100% true and maybe there are other roads to Heaven after all..." "nnaaahhh.....let's do an extensive study on the beat of modern music and coincidences the artist didn't even know were there that could potentially relate to cultic symbols, some of which satan stole from JEWISH practices anyway" =)
xSmittyxCorex 1 year ago
I agree with the melody part, I listened to one of Abigail Miller's scripture songs, sent from our Almighty Glooorious KING LION OF JUDAH!!!!!!! Jesus Christ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Son of God, Son of man, The Risen King Blessed be Him.....and with the melody talent she has it sank right into my brain 1Peter3:15Keep God's word sewn in your heart, and when somebody asks you of the hope you have for the life hereafter tell them with meekness and fear. BAM! Praise the Lord for melody-makers!
ektron7 1 year ago
Amen! I am a music director in a church and I wholeheartedly agree! Lord, revealed the same to me and told me that I would be the music director 4 yrs before it came to pass. Told me what He wanted. Yes, there is an assault. I have been fought against severely, attacked, and it is the enemy trying to destroy the church. Dreams, and more dreams the Lord has given to me. One was seeing an orgy in the church in plain view (idolatry). Must pray and be courageous with wisdom from God. God bless!
desirem1 1 year ago
@desirem1 I believe that is from God. Let your voice continue to be heard.
bromattchat 1 year ago
WHY ARE PASTORS LIKE YOU SO FAR AWAY? I WANT A PASTOR LIKE YOU
mammal46 1 year ago
While I fully respect that you have the choice of choosing to have a religion, and you can have your own values
Whether music is Pop, Hymn, Metal or Rap, it's all a form of expression and music which different people find pleasing.
I listen to what you might call 'Nazi' music, but I'm not evil.
As an exploring Atheist/Agnostic, I'll say that 'uber' Christians are ruining the religion, just enjoy the world, its wonders and the creative minds of the people that God put here.
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I know the difference betweeen what is worldly and what is divine, and today's Contemporary Christian Music is anything but divine, I'm in the world, like everyone else, and yes I too am worldly. But even if I wasn't a believer, which I am. I can see that CCM is nothing short of gross blashpemy. The music itself is worldly in it's expression, it's attitude, it's tone, and it's rhythm. Trying to put Christian on CCM is like spraying cinnamon air-freshener on excrement, ignorant of the fact.
MikeyMcCrashCap 1 year ago
Hahaha.
laurenmckinney 1 year ago
songs even these days have hidden messages in them like hip hop,rap,pop,jazz, and more have hidden messages . GOD BLESS EVERYONE .
selenasutherland73 1 year ago
Theres a town called Festus, thats awesome.
TheCaptainLulz 1 year ago
Instead of blaming everything with Christians on whats going on in the world, lets have churches return to good old fashioned KJV style preaching.
evilunixuser1 1 year ago
What seminary did this guy go to?
homeless018 1 year ago
thank you for this video very true and educative... ofcourse the fake christians who dont read thier bibles but instead surf the net n facebook or chat on the phone will argue the most...just ignore them , the fact that they are arguin so much with the truth proves how lukewarm they are... God bless you thanks
imelda4jesus 1 year ago
I made it thought 4 videos! In my opinion you could have made one video; this is just a drugged out legalism and a poor excuse to downplay music that glorifies God! Your message is surrounded by the Drum. That’s all you talk about!......It’s really quite simple, if it glorifies Christ, its good! If you find it important to research each artist, do so! I have seen Benny Hinn and many false profits use traditional music to lead there demonic services. So, now you can’t use that music either!
Godpleaser77 1 year ago
The Lord will always make things clear through His watchmen. May the power of the Holy Spirit guide you. Thanks for the messages.
6883a927 1 year ago
Stop Spreading Lies! Alleluia7 Stop Spreading Lies! The Devil would only say the things you are saying! You're motive needs an adjustment! not judging you, Just telling you the truth! God is the Voice, The Instruments, Drums/etc.... He is in all things! He said let all the Music in the world praise the Lord, not one style of sound! My God I serve Isn't limited in his Music Creativity! He is the author and Judge of the Music, Not You!
JesusHeals777 1 year ago
@JesusHeals777 If you are speaking about Alleluia7 spreading lies about this video you need to check yourself. The Devil/Lucifer/Satan would say the things that you're saying. God is not an instrument or the voice of any kind of Rock music (Christian Rock too). He is spiritual that's why we worship him in spirit and not the flesh. (Eph. 5:19) speaks about how to sing to the Lord. It doesn't mention anything about Rock concert or bands. We are supposed to worship God in spirit.
cobbcopd1 1 year ago
@cobbcopd1My Lord and Savior said that and He is God (John 4:24) God is not in anything that is sinful like Satan or any of his doing. You say you're not judging but that's exactly what you're doing. Paul said it perfect from the Holy Spirit in the spirit we judge all things (1 Cor. 2:15). If the god you serve promotes Christian Rock it's not of God Almighty. You're right if Lucifer is your god he's not limited in his music and he judges music.
cobbcopd1 1 year ago
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@cobbcopd1 777 means Jesus who is Perfect, There is no other GOD, Jesus is Thy Only God, He alone is who i serve. and NO!!!!! God would be saying what I am Saying. I am Not Ashamed of the Gospel of Christ. Who created music? God! Who allowed Music to speak? God! The Devil Never Invented Music! God is an Instrument to all music, God speaks through it all. People that are giving their talents to Jesus, are giving him the Glory of it all is God's Music! it doesn't matter the style.
JesusHeals777 1 year ago
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@cobbcopd1 777 means Jesus who is Perfect, There is no other GOD, Jesus is Thy Only God, He alone is who i serve. and NO!!!!! God would be saying what I am Saying. I am Not Ashamed of the Gospel of Christ. Who created music? God! Who allowed Music to speak? God! The Devil Never Invented Music! God is an Instrument to all music, God speaks through it all. People that are giving their talents to Jesus, are giving him the Glory of it all is God's Music! it doesn't matter the style.
JesusHeals777 1 year ago
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@cobbcopd1 777 means Jesus who is Perfect, There is no other GOD, Jesus is Thy Only God, He alone is who i serve. and NO!!!!! God would be saying what I am Saying. I am Not Ashamed of the Gospel of Christ. Who created music? God! Who allowed Music to speak? God! The Devil Never Invented Music! God is an Instrument to all music, God speaks through it all. People that are giving their talents to Jesus, are giving him the Glory of it all is God's Music! it doesn't matter the style.
JesusHeals777 1 year ago
@JesusHeals777 continued My Lord and Savior said that and He is God (John 4:24) God is not in anything that is sinful like Satan or any of his doing. You say you're not judging but that's exactly what you're doing. Paul said it perfect from the Holy Spirit in the spirit we judge all things (1 Cor. 2:15). If the god you serve promotes Christian Rock it's not of God Almighty. You're right if Lucifer is your god he's not limited in his music and he judges music.
cobbcopd1 1 year ago
@JesusHeals777 Ezek. 28:13 says Lucifer was prepared with tabrets and pipes (music) when he was created. After Lucifer fell he became Satan and he still has the same power God gave him. However, he's nothing compared to my God!! 777 hmmm... do you know what that number is associated with? How about Aleister Crowley the man that bragged about molesting young boys. He wrote "Liber 777" and Led Zepplin is fascinated by him one of the members bought his home in Ireland.
cobbcopd1 1 year ago
@JesusHeals777 Again Rock musicians and it's a number famous is Wiccan religion (Witches). You're starting to reveal who your god really is. Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the TRUTH (Heb 4:6). I do pray that you truly find the God the Creator through our Lord Jesus Christ.
cobbcopd1 1 year ago
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Some points throughout these, but in general I have to disagree. Much of Christian rock is praising God and reminding us of all the help and comfort He gives. Some has helped and truly touched people, myself among them. Regardless of origins, history, etc. If it's used to praise Jesus and help people pay more attention to God in their lives, how can it be called wrong?
Bith29 1 year ago
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Some points throughout these, but in general I have to disagree. Much of Christian rock is praising God and reminding us of all the help and comfort He gives. Some has helped and truly touched people, myself among them. Regardless of origins, history, etc. If it's used to praise Jesus and help people pay more attention to God in their lives, so how can it be called wrong?
Bith29 1 year ago
where in the Bible duz it tok bout music?
T3D777 1 year ago
i wonder why ratings have been disabled...
jesusmetal92107 1 year ago
True.
meloveJesus999 1 year ago
I love Mike Hoggard and his teachings, he's an amazing man of God!
Fight0Tyranny 1 year ago
Is there something wrong with you? music is freedom and expression. Something you whack job Jesus freaks dont understand. People are so fucking stupid that they will cling to anyone's word. If god didn't wait me to listen to "secular music" he would kill me right know as im writing this and tell me himself that i have it all wrong. And for the record Hinduism is much older then the teachings of Jesus and Christianity. Read a fuckin book, not the bible. Asshole
confish34 1 year ago
@confish34 whoa......
musicwormraps 1 year ago
I used to like Lincoln Brewster (a "Christian" contemporary band)until I saw one of the Album covers where he was showing only one eye "very symbolic" of the occult. So I stopped listening all together.
jimayrable 1 year ago
Any Christian who thinks the noise we heard at the start is of the Lord, definitely still lost. I also do not believe the Holy Spirit is in any of that noise, nor are the people who feed on that filled with the Holy Spirit. However, if the devil can't steal your joy, he will try and disturb your peace, with satanic music that has 'Christian lyrics'
We've been sold a bill of goods... and it was an easy sell, imho
sparwood8 1 year ago
BLACK METAL IST KRIEG!
o0Evangelion20140o 1 year ago
lolololol another old babtist guy who believes he can dictate how people spread the word of God. Why am I not surprised?
zer0mavrick 1 year ago
@zer0mavrick because you're pre-conditioned to laugh at it. Shimples....
charliebad 1 year ago
You can tell this guy is a Baptist minister, he is redundant and dull. His heart and soul is in the right place, just the way that he presents it. John Todd revealed a lot of the workings of Christian music and how it is rooted in the occult. Where do you think these Christian artists and churches get the money to fund and form Christian bands and worship services. Find out where the money comes from and who donates it. Wherever money is, there is evil. Money is the root of all evil.
thelastdaysmessenger 1 year ago
@thelastdaysmessenger money isnt the root of all evil. the LOVE of money is. just clarifying
pinknotebook 1 year ago
this is great. makes me sick at heart though. anyone ever heard the song "city on our knees" by supposed christian hip-hop artist Toby mac? here's a link. look it up here. very interesting picture he paints...quite honestly, I believe it to be pagan.
foreverseekingYeshua 1 year ago
5:00 - 5:13 EPIC FAIL! i hate this guy! he thinks Christians are right and everyone else is wrong! hes just a douche.
all these conspiracy theorists and people who think God talk to them and shit like that, are just failures. they are crazy. they are paranoid (conspiracy theorists), and schizophrenic/hearing voices ( god talks to them). they are just straight up delusional.
TheOnlyAttrition 1 year ago
"Rock is evil" originates from 2 sources.
Ignorance: Mozart used 4/4 time which the "church" said would leave people insane and possesed.
Racism: Plantation owners feared slaves were sending "secret messages" of revolt encoded in drum beats.
This guy is Ignorant or racist, take your pick.
floydgirl7: Your story is nothing more than an urban legand...Do you really believe 4/4 time actually conjors up demons? Really?
JESUS IS LORD...hope this guy meets Him someday
jeco9a 1 year ago
well. hi alleluia 7, im an italian catholic and id like sub titles in english because for me it would more simple for understanding...thanks:)
hovogliadileggere 1 year ago
This is a true story told to me yrs ago,A Paster&Family were missionarys in a primitive place(can't mem where}The paster went away left teenage son,paster come back¬ one member of village went to church,,he went&seen the cheif&asked why!Cheif said your son is playing music we use to conjor up demons with(the drum beat),was Christian Rock,,true story guys
floydgirl7 1 year ago
OK. I'm convinced this guy is Christian. He's boring. Did the Book of Revelation ever talk about dying of boredom? Would this count? Is this video considered plague? And do people who listen to these guys realize they are repeating the same basic 7 minutes of fear tactics that Christian leaders have been reciting for decades?
bhickman6 1 year ago
Thats because children are the devil
EdStark22 1 year ago
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Are cheetos "worldly"? What about pie? How many hamburgers can I stuff down my throat and still go to heaven?
georgem21275 1 year ago
AND WITH THE POWER OF JESUS! I WILL SQUEEZE ONE MORE DROP OUT OF THIS LEMON!!
AHHH! REPENT!
THE LORD HAS SPOKEN THROUGH ME!!
"convulsions""talking in tongues""supposedly crippled man standing from his wheel chair"
luciferiexcelsil 1 year ago
@luciferiexcelsil I read you little blurb on your page about your opinion on religion and I couldn't help but wonder if you'd considered that religion has been altered completely in the minds of most, so you would think this way. Of course you have ;) Good luck and God bless you!
charliebad 1 year ago
@charliebad in my Catholic/Orthodox and later protestant days I realised that a lot of Christians, use "God bless you!" to hide a "fuck you" on it...
so, god bless you too, my Aryan brother.
luciferiexcelsil 1 year ago