SwArta Harnischfechten

[ChamorruWarrior]

This is cool. I do Jujitsu, and Europe actually has alot of the same moves as Jujitsu (Japanese grappling used by Samurai) I guess there's only so many ways to bend someones arm the wrong way, and so many ways to throw/sweep people onto the ground lol We all have the same body, so I guess if anyone really looked into the art of screwing up people's joints, alot of the moves would look the same lol

[CrimsonEmpire]

such a great video. Thanks!!!

[TheFrostedLlama]

Great video guys. Best one i've seen on armoured combat thus far.

[BrandonBlaze904]

nice shoes XD

[Thrawn6211]

What dialect is this video written in, can't understand a word of it.

[gurkfisk89]

@Thrawn6211

Mostly early new high german. You don't have to feel bad for not understand it, even if it's close to modern german no one will blame you for not understand a text that was written in the 15th and 16th century. =)

[Thrawn6211]

@gurkfisk89 I don't feel bad it just looked like a swabian or bavarian dialect of some sort. Thanks for the info.

[Vondanzigkungfu]

This is SWARTA!!!

[Roleplay78]

The problem is putting all this together in combat.

[xxTeutonicKnightxx]

@Roleplay78 Some truth to what you said. But you got to see that when you train like this or what they show, in combat you will perform better as well as easier to adapt and or improvise in any given situation. Also keep in mined that all if not most of these manuscripts were written by men that saw and been in combat…

[Roleplay78]

@xxTeutonicKnightxx

I practice myself some martial arts, I'm not a professional, and I'm more than sure that these techniques are real (taken from battlefields or duels).

They remind me, tough, of "fianl moves". These types of moves are for masters and only when the opportunity will rise without compromising self security.

If one of these techniques miss the target you will be in great danger.

[BangTheRocksTogether]

Hey, Thank you very much. Seeing this many half-sword plays in full harness is a real treat. I imagine you both took quite a beating making this. So, how close would you say you are to full speed in this video? How much is about demonstration speed, weight of armour, or just the amount of grappling involved?

[LostInMySelf1]

schön aber schöner wenn es hochdoitsch wäre!!

[TaskForceSixTwoSix]

Another pathetic display of once great European martial arts... Please God, stop uploading your videos to youtube all of you unskilled slobs. You make the techniques look stupid and ridiculous. If you can't do the techniques perfectly, THEN DON'T UPLOAD THEM TO YOUTUBE...

[SwArtaMartialArts]

@TaskForceSixTwoSix : and another pathetic reaction on youtube... what more can we say...

[BangTheRocksTogether]

@TaskForceSixTwoSix ??? Uhh wut? WMA techniques are being interpreted from 600yr old manuscripts. It is all a work in progress. I KNOW I am unskilled but I learn a lot from youtube vids. Thanks for the encouragement. Don't be a Hater. Also, try no to be fat, stupid angry, and drunk. You are embarrassing your mom.

[BangTheRocksTogether]

@TaskForceSixTwoSix OK. I watched the video. It is one of the best I have seen. Bitter much?You really are drunk, aren't you?

[doodleskin]

@TaskForceSixTwoSix I for one thought it was really good but if you think you can do a better job then by all means post your OWN video.

[PookieDude1]

Why do they use the hilt against the helmet and other parts of the body? To act as a club? I would think that it wouldn't be very effective at such close range. Not criticizing, just honestly wondering why.

[temmy9]

@PookieDude1 Its very effective actually. Any chunk of metal smashing you is going to cause injury.

[TemporaMedievalis]

Nice work, good reconstruction of combat techiques. I like groups that studies codex.

Tempora Medievalis

Italy

[IsenbergerHerold]

Danke für die schöne Darstellung!

Besonders auch für die letzten Einstellungen zum Thema "Theorie und Praxis".

:-)

[DaUsher]

I love these videos, proof that knights in full plate armour weren't as cumbersome as some people perceive. Very educational.

[SwArtaMartialArts]

Hello, thank you for your comments. The armour is a replica of a late 15th century Gothic one. It's made out of steel and weights about 25 to 30 kg. Both material and weight are realistic to the time period. Concerning your second question: yes, you are always restricted in your maneuverability but you get used to it and when the armour is really made well, you won't lose flexibility....

[Berkanno]

very nice video about lichtenauer

[Kendo27985]

A couple of questions regarding the armour. Is the armour authentic? As in made of materials that would be realistic to the time period? Or is it more of a replica or mock up?

Second, how does it feel wearing the armour? There is always a conception that such medieval armour is very stiff and unwieldy. But judging by the techniques you guys performed (which were very excellent by the way), it seemed that you could actually still remain quite agile and flexible?

[temmy9]

@Kendo27985 You can seriously do cartwheels in good plate. Its not as heavy as it looks and the weight is well distributed on the body.

[spliffslider]

I love this stuff. Wish there was WWF Wrestlers enacting and have enlish subtitle but well done.

[Kunstdesfechtens]

Excellent demonstration. Keep up the good work!

[crutch1984]

This is all pretty gay!

[DiabloRW27]

ale gówno widać że niemcy huja sie znają na rycerstwie haha aż smutno

[tiamat9989]

Excellent work! Man, there are just not enough videos on historical armored combat like this.

When you guys practiced these moves and interpreted them, did you find risking injury to be a major issue to deal with? My impression was that the nature of the moves presents a very high risk of joint injury, especially with the extra weight from the armor.

[SwArtaMartialArts]

@tiamat9989: thanks for the comments! Yes well, when fighting in armour, the joints are definitely places to target and they don't need that much of pressure due to the way the (our) armour is made. I didn't find the risk of getting injured (at the joints) higher then when these locks are applied on one without armour. The real problem lies in the inability of defending yourself against the next blows/stabs to the openings.... and that’s one of the reasons to apply locks...

[Noahandtheark7]

Exscuse mir, ich bin sehr dankbar für übertragen diese detaillierte video, das zeigt Beispiele von Harnischfechten.

Ist es noch andere Beispiele von Harnischfechten, sie könnten hochladen? Ich bin versucht zu kompilieren eine Wiedergabeliste von mittelalterlichen longsword Techniken. Leider, Beispiele von Harnischfechten auf YouTube sind selten.

So, wenn sie hochladen konnten andere Beispiele, dann wäre ich sehr dankbar.

[SwArtaMartialArts]

@Noahandtheark7: danke, wir gehen zuerst beispiele machen von andere waffenkunsten, danach ist es mogelich neue stucken von harnischfechten zu bringen...

[Noahandtheark7]

@SwArtaMartialArts Ok. Ich werde Sie beobachten ihrem Kanal für die künftigen Entwicklungen dann. Vielen Dank für Ihre Antwort. :D

[metaltom2233]

is that high german, from manuscripts?

[TheLoki7281]

@metaltom2233 ist not the "today" german but its german.. the spelling, the juse of words and the grammar is a bit different but relativ good to read..

[00Jose00]

Medieval Fighting was brutal man. UFC fighters today would do great knights back then.

[Jahaison]

@00Jose00 Doubt it. Many UFC fighters are ill equipped technically to deal with weapons. To see this go watch their series with the USMC here on YouTube.

[sewagedweller]

@00Jose00 no UFC would get living shit kicked out of them

[haffoc]

Well done, guys. I am a degenman myself but I appreciate the amount of work that went into these interpretations.

[SwArtaMartialArts]

@ Silentjungleblood: It would have been better if you'd done some investigations on the reality of fighting in 15th century armour with point-sharp swords and sometimes tools shoven over the blades to grip and to prevent hand injuries for instance... (Truth, you don't see those in the clip). Yet, a bit of online-searching for answers would have saved you from publicly displaying your ignorance on the subject. Hope this sets things straight... Kind regards.

[silentjungleblood781]

I find it very stupid that they are grabbing their blades with their hands. The blades are obviously not as sharp as they would be in combat.

[shado299]

the have gloves with chain mail on the palm and inside if the fingers it is a style of armored combat.

[haffoc]

@silentjungleblood781 It was common for men to grab the blades of their swords. The manuals are full of this kind of thing. To call it stupid is ignorance or the sources.

[LaRoza77]

@silentjungleblood781 Their blades could be sharp, but you are correct in that the areas they are holding could very well not be sharpened; this part of the blade is called a "ricasso". However, remember that steel weapons cannot slice through steel armour, so even if they were sharp, it wouldn't matter. Read the wikipedia article on "half-sword" to get up to speed on the specific technique.

[JohnRaptor]

@silentjungleblood781 Swords were not necessarily razor sharp, nor sharpened for their entire length. Also, it is very possible to grip even a razor sharp sword, even bare handed, without injury. Add a leather gauntlet and a less-than-razor sharp blade, and it's pretty easy.

Ultimately, if using a sword in this way was stupid, it wouldn't be shown in so many historical fighting manuals.

[Pourleduc]

Bestes Halbschwert - Harnischfecht - Video auf Youtube!

[Magni56]

Oh, 1:25 is cheap-shot.

[255Knights]

Yea it is... But these attacks are going were there is less armor... But there was armor there but not as much as lets say the chest or head. Get it?

[Magni56]

Yeah, I got it. Still, doesn't make it less funny.

[SKIRWNAS]

very serious work!!!Bravo!

If only it was in english or french,i could read all interesting comments!

[ljfhutchinson]

Brilliant movie! :D Best I've seen on youtube by far.

[jurgels22]

mooi

[SwArtaMartialArts]

Beste, de natuur van het halfzwaard gevecht in harnas (met langzwaard) is u duidelijk niet gekend. Het is nu eenmaal het voordeel van harnas dat het toelaat heel dicht op de tegenstander in te komen om zo naar de openingen te werken. Het is een algemeen foutieve interpretatie dat je op een tegenstander in harnas moet 'inhakken' om de afstand te dichten. De kunde vraagt nu eenmaal kennis van techniek, afstand en maat. Dit kunnen we u nog beter verduidelijken op een training, wees dus welkom

[guilliamo123]

sorry het ziet er egt geforgeerd uit zeker met 1en half zwaard dan hakje en snij je en steek je maar hoe verwacht je nu in godsnaam zo dicht bij je slachtoffer tekomen ?

[burzum21]

really nice job !

[gothicmarine]

mooi gedaan alwin en detlev, maar ik had toch stiekem op wat meer bloopers gehoopt

[tao007]

Nice video Alwin, zoals gewoonlijk hoog niveau van de Swarta mannen.

[LordIcedewd]

Swarta rules :-) mooi werk Alwin en Detlev

door dit te zien krijg ik weer zin om een blikken dozeken te kopen

[romualdus29]

Alwin & Detlev , a dangerous combination. Very nice done . Can't wait to see more of it.

Greetz

[miguelverhasselt]

Ziet er echt fantastisch uit! Ik moet wel dringend is ne cursus duits gaan volgen dat ik aan die teksten aan uit geraak :D Echt mooi gedaan mannen!

-Migi-

[linjemram]

cool! Veel technieken herkend, maar ze zijn wel veel duidelijker in full-plate. Ik kan trouwens ook niet wachten tot het 'ringen' filmpje uitkomt :)

-Jem-