i thought aintree did a great job with the course and fences to be honest i didnt notice the changes at all at this years becher chase meeting there were fallers at bechers the bogey fence two before bechers the first big ditch and the chair. its still a unique test
@Mr75littlebay Still unique but over the course a competent jumper should have no undue trouble . Still a great race but no longer the remarkable test it was when I was a kid in the 1970s. The Taxis is a far more difficult test even with modification then Bechers now is.
@SCOTTinHd1 in which casing we should ban all rodeo sports cos many horses are injured and die in those too. we could also ban eventing cos dressage horses pull tendons and such, showjumpers fall and cross country horses often fall or have heart attacks or injure themselves on jumps. carriage driving should then be banned cos horses slip on the roads or get into accidents and riding school ponies get whipped and worked too long... oh wait, that means horses can only be used for eating. SHUT UP!
@SCOTTinHd1 sorry i'm just sick of people saying this race should be banned. it's been going for over 150 years, its a tradition almost. the course has been modified so much its barely a race anymore - the jumps used to be bigger, the ditches wider, the drops lower and the fences were stiffer. not only are the jumps now so much safer but they're less wide, to allow loose horses to run out so they don't cause pile ups.
A combination of the two toughest equestrian sports. Steeple Chasing isnt any more cruel than the super bowl would be if you had to both deal with the football AND a soccer ball! You MUST give these jockeys and horses props. Anyone who things this isnt sport doesnt even deserve to be left in the presence of any living creature.
if anyone else comes on here to say how cruel the g.n is just ignore them guys lets just keep the chat to the actual race itself and they will soon go away.....ha ha .
@jss1886 I'm sorry, my mistake. I didn't mean to be impolite, I'm glad you noticed the comment anyway.
I'm pretty sure I'm allowed to watch videos as much as anybody. If I come across something worth commenting, I join the conversation and express my thoughts. I'm allowed to do that too, even if I don't join the applause. I try not to get personal though.
(Talking about slaughtering, surely you don't think racehorses live happily ever after and die of old age calmly in their sleep?)
well done to mccoy for winning and for dont push it running well again this year, will we ever see a back to back winner again , red rum the last the true aintree legend :}
Here is the prochasing rationale in this brief conversation: It's all good, because horses like this and horses know what is good for them. It's ok, because it's traditional. It's ok, because it's still happening, if it were unsafe it would have been stopped a long time ago. It's ok because these horses are treated well. It's ok because there are worse animal cruelty cases elsewhere. And a bird once got killed at a cricket match.
My point: There is obviously not enough room for good jumps.
And also, I know horses are not "forced" to run this course. However, in comparison to humans, horses have tiny brains ;). They don't have any concept about safety other than it is safe to keep running with the pack and clearing those fences. Also, they are "thoroughly" bred, fed and trained for "full blast", that's their life. Saying that a horse like that could decide for himself if it is safe to run/jump the course, is like saying... I don't even know what would compare.
If you had any clue about horse racing and how horses are treat, you would know they live a very comftable life. They are very well tendered to and cared for very much. If they wern't, they would not be racing. It is that simple. Horses are 'prey' animals, therefore have full knowledge of there safety. They have a high fight or flight response to stress. Horses are BRAVE and PROUD. they do not fear a fence. If they did they wouldnt try and make that leap. "Horses brains are smaller" Wow.
@koala1234ish are you joking? "Thats their life"? i dont think a horses life should be like that! youre right in what you say about their brains - horses arent very clever,but is that a reason for being cruel? i have many horses aswell and they are happy, although they have to work hard. but this video shows people FORCING their horses to die. sorry if my english isnt that good
@krizzel36 Yeah, I meant that these horses in particular are bred and trained just for running fast. How could thay understand the risks involved. These horses will run no matter what. People are responsible for the circumstances they put their horses in.
My comment was a response to people saying horses can't be forced to run, and also that even in this race one horse decided against running, and didn't leave the starting line. That's true, but is not enough to justify this race.
I don't have any problems with slaughtering animals for food. As long as the animals are treated well when they are alive and their death is quick and painless. I try to buy grocery according to what I believe is right. I do have a problem with this race, and I think the reason is blindingly obvious, as I watch the video play out again. Horses don't have enough room to clear the jumps safely at this speed. One mistake (even by a jockey) and they are down. There is no reason why that has to be.
@koala1234ish Didn't have the guts to reply to me directly i see. Seriously, how pathetic is that?! Get a life! You don't have a problem with animals being slaughtered, have you ever seen the way they are treated? Quick and painless my arse!! Hyporcrite.
Simple solution to this, if you don't like this race DON'T WATCH IT!
@comeonshaymen I don't hate GN. About cruelty, try googling "slaughtering race horses". You'll find that in Australia alone "Of the 17,000 thoroughbreds born last year, only about two-thirds will ever make it to the racetrack. Of those, most suffer injuries or do not run fast enough and only about 1 to 3 per cent make it to top events." Worldwide there are ten times more bred every year. It's a huge industry and it is about money. What do you think happens to 190 000 thoroughbreds every year?
Arguments everywhere about the GN 8) okay guys, the grey at the start did not race. Why? He refused to. Horses wouldn't race if they didn't enjoy it. You can tell when you are riding them that they are enjoying the thrill of galloping because they are eager to go and you struggle to hold them. Clueless, ignorant people this is THE race for the best horses, and is fine as it is. I agree too many horses run this race. However, smaller jumps and a shorter distance = more speed + more deaths.
He pauses fiercly rejoicing in his strength and charges into the fray,.. he laughs at fear afraid of nothing, he does not shy away from the sword. A quiver rattles against his side, along with a flashing spear and lance. In frenzied excitement he eats up the ground, He cannot stand still....when the trumpet sounds.
@Shawtymanefanxxx lower the jumps? One of the horses died at the smallest fence on the course. I'll tell you what is a good idea though you go away and learn something about racing.
Now I don't know much about horses but I know that a horse is not able to decide if it wants to race or not. You can't just say that horses just won't race if they don't want to. They have no choice. It's just cruel. Like kaznryan said: lower the jumps, shorten the race and smaller fields
@ShawtyManeFanxxx A horse is not able to decide if it wants to race or not. Really? How about you actually watch this video and you will see that you are wrong. King Johns Castle actually decided he did not want to race, and HE DIDN'T. You can not make a horse run.
The horse have a choice to run look at king johns castle last year in the national refused to race and on the flat sariska again refused to race TWICE learn something about racing.
there has been every effort to make the race as safe as possible without losing its unique nature if the race is changed anymore nobody will watch and it will cease to exist either aintree say enough is enough and make no further alterations or they bow down to those who know nothing about racing and finally kill off this great british race.............
I wish these animal rights idiots would piss off. This is not animal cruelty, if a horse does not want to race no one can make it. Unseated horses continue to run and jump simply because they enjoy it. Why ban it? If you dont like it, dont watch it, simple. Yes it's upsetting when a horse dies, but to ban it would be stupid. In any sport you take risks, what should we do, ban all sports just in case?!
Anyway i love this race especially as this was when i got my first winner!!
@jss1886 Oh please. Unseated horses continue to run and jump because that is what horses do, when the pack runs they run. Do you really think the horses have a choice here?
You know, I bet there are people who call even dog fighting a great sport, since the dogs are just lovin it. They have to be dragged out of the pit, that's how much fun they are having! It's not "taking a risk" if there is no chance of avoiding an innocent animal getting seriously hurt, it is brutality and far from sports.
@koala1234ish If a horse doesn't want to run, you cant make it run!! Dont even compare it to dog fighting. Let's ban all sports shall we. Just sit around and do nothing, thats safer. No sports, no drinking, smoking, nothing. And ban conkers as well, yeah, someone could get seriously hurt playing that. I know, I dont like sp**s, i think we should ban them and everything else i dont like.
Get real, it's a sport thats been going for years. They aint going to ban it just to suit you!
@jss1886 HOW ABOUT YOU STOP BEING SO INCONSIDERATE AND WE WHIP AND RACE YOU ROUND A TRACK AND MAKE YOU RUN AND JUMP OVER THOSE FENCES?? EVEN WHEN YOUR SWEATING ?? HOW WOULD U FEEL?? IF U DIE AND WE CALL YOU AN OBSTACLE HOW WOULD U LIKE THAT??? WOULD YOU LIKE THAT??? CONSIDER EVERYONE ELSES OPINIONS AND STOP BEING SO SELF CENTERED!!! ALSO YES GRAND NATIONAL HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS!! TO FUCKING MANY YEARS!!! IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE !! CHANGE THE RACE SOME HOW!!!
@1slaggy What's with the caps?! Your the sad case searching for videos you clearly hate just so you can bitch. What a sad life you lot have. Im entitled to my fucking opinion too, and dont give a flying fuck as to what you think. I'll continue to watch, have a bet on and enjoy the National, so you can lick my crack if you dont like it. Seriously, go play with the traffic!
@jss1886 Why is dog fighting so different? It's an ancient sport, isn't it, and I'm sure there are dogs who are just superb and survive. It's the same here, there are winners, but there are even more those who fall. The falls are no accidents, they are prone to happen in this setting, and they have to happen for the thrills. That's what I'm against, I don't think horses are made to run or mistreated otherwise. Lower fences would not help that much safetywise, the track is just way too crowded.
@koala1234ish How can you compare horse racing to dog fighting? It's a barbaric sport that is banned, if horse racing was the same do you seriously think it would still be going on today? The whole point of the length of the course and the height of the fences is to test the horses, that's what makes it so great. If they were forced to run or mistreated, which even you can't say they are, it would be wrong.
@koala1234ish Why are you not complaining about things like animals being slaughtered for human consumption? Are you a vegan? Did you start kicking up a stink about the National, then sit down for your sunday roast over the weekend? What about fishing, fish get killed? Or how about we ban Cricket, all those trees getting chopped down for the bats and stumps, and a bird got killed at Lords once. And i hate Cricket. And did you complain about the National last year when NO horses were killed?
@kaznryan "horses are a herd animal so of course the ones without jockeys are going to want to be with their friends." actually, no. they want to race. why would you assume every horse is friends with every other horse like a my little pony episode?
I've got the 2011 WINNER for you guys&gals. Only you have to pick it from 14 :D 1 of the following will win today's Grand National... #2 Tidal Bay 40/1 (bet365 prices) #3 What A Friend 14/1 #5 Majestic Concorde 33/1 #8 Big Fella Thanks 18/1 #10 BallaBriggs 18/1 #11 The Midnight Club 10/1 #13 Silver By Nature 12/1 #14 Backstage 16/1 #18 Oscar Time 14/1 #19 Quinz 16/1 #20 Becauseicouldntsee 25/1 #24 State of Play 33/1 #37 Arbor Supreme 22/1 #39 Skippers Brig 40/1
Whats up with the new camera views of them jumping bechers etc?
prefered the old style..
Have already backed 2 winners over the fences last 2 days baby run & always waining & today im gunna be backing the midnight club, tidal bay, becauseicouldntsee & grand slam hero who has some old form that gives him a chance..good luck everyone on whoever you back ;D
I am totally behind character building tomorrow I have him at 25/1 each way and I believe in him, along with the other grey silve by nature, and I have big fella thanks aswell all each way. Sounds like someone here likes greys lol :)
i work for john quinn who trains the grey gelding, character building, its such a great pleasure to have a horse of ours in the grand national and although he didnt win, he finished and didnt fall. bring it on again 2mora.
in todays topham the bogey fence { 2 before bechers } strikes again !!!!!!!!! and bechers still has its bite that grey was very lucky indeed to get up from that fall
i see the bbc has totally ignored all the racing fans who wanted the old style coverage over national fences instead of all the high tech stuff which takes away so much of the excitement and spontaneous feeling from the live action !!!!!!!!!!!!
watched foxhunters for some reason the plain fence two before bechers has become the bogey fence pile up second time round last years national and again at becher chase and again today !!!!
@littlebay75 its been jumping "big" for a couple of years now. It was the same for the 2010 becher chase. Its pretty much compensating for the 3rd, 5th and 6th which seems to jump easier these days.
@punkychumpy09 This is actually not true, but it does cost a lot of money, time, and pain for the horse. He would have to hang in a sort of hammock for months. This is very frustrating for a horse, plus he could get pressure points on the places where the hammock cuts into the skin. So yeah, a lot of people find it more humane to kill the horse.
he never broke a leg and he was most certainly not destroyed and the simple fact that he is not in the race this year is he has been pulled out through an injury of a torn fibre in his tendon
i wish other people on here would do there research before putting up comments about destroyed through broken leg
state of play dont ignore 20/1 big fella thanks run well last time.but the biggest danger to all is ruby ride the midnight club. dont push it i dont think so very hard to win in national back to back. gud value e/w tip as well 50/1 giles cross rider dennis oregan twice 2nd in 4mile 2f,hes a rider as well of black apalachi last yr.be smart for betting.
@SuperMw2man he has been pulled out of the race due to an injury with a torn fibre in his tendon, pity really as he ran so well last year, but better to be safe than sorry, and maybe i think they should possibly retire him
as they may have no other option to do so in the end but hey 2nd in the national is still really good and if he doesn't run anymore then I'd say that would be the best thing to do
really fancy big fella thanks this year, just maybe he might have won it last year if ruby walsh didn't get injured prior to this race, as he would have gave him a good ride.. but take nothing away from A.P.. top man and deserved it! State of play makes up by each way bet, hasn't raced since last years national but better when fresh apparantly so hopefully this could be the case :) fancy Hello Bud as well, even though he's 13 now.. who is everyone else backing?!
touted obvious horses seldom win the national so i wont be backing what a friend or the midnight club the handicap now though means that horses carrying more than 11st can be backed with confidence funnily this actually happened in 1965 and the higher weights filled most of the places including the winner jay trump and second freddie and both were fancied , i think one of the less fancied horses like becauseicouldntsee or notre pere might win
@BigPhil1982 you are having a laugh!This is the Grand National and not a little handicap at Fontwell!What a Friend is unproven over the distance and the fences.He also wears blinkers which in some cases can be worrying.The other problem is that unlike the old days,everything will be in the h`cap proper.And you don`t know the ground.You are talking drivvle!
Never screamed a horse home so much in my life,I had £50 on it at 20/1,the trackside bookie didn't look impressed when I handed over my bettin slip haha
I told all everyone i know and their dog to back Black Apalachi and i was screaming at the tv over the last and of all years it was McCoy who would win!!ha ha well done Tony,il get ya next time....
OMG - first time I've ever seen a steeplechase. Those are superhero horses - how the heck do you condition a horse to run that far and jump so many fences? And how the heck do those jockeys stay on in that position?? Makes me feel like quite the prat for falling off my horse in way tamer situations. How thrilling!
@follepourchevaux How have you not seen this before?!! lol I thought this was shown all over the world. Not really a betting person myself, but this is the only race i look forward to every year. Luv it!!! :D
It is heart breaking when a horse falls on your fence and wont get up, last year the first race i went on, a milemay, a horse fell and had to be killed not nice, hopefully none fall this year or no fatalities.
I loved this day i was on canal turn working on the fence, as i will be this year :), you never know the thrill of the national till you are standing right next to the fence.
Can anybody tell me what happened to the horses Cloudy Lane and Idle Talk? They were Ginger Mccains horses which have ran in the recent Grand Nationals. Send me a message if you have any information. Thanks
My first exposure to the Grand National was, of course, Enig Bagnold's book "National Velvet" and the movie of the same name. I know some of the jumps have names but they all look alike to me. And they all look scary! What a race - really exciting.
if a jockeyi i.e a p mccoy doesnt win sports personality this year its a disgrace all the other sports have not produced a star performer this year so everyone vote for this supreme ambassador for his sport !!!!!!!!!!!!
What do you mean adisgrace. Just watch a race over fences and when you see a jockey falling off watch what most horses do they continue jumping thats what these horses are bred to do and to say it,s cruel , your talking garbage
So What about 40 horses start the race, how many actually finish the race. They should ban steeplchase races, how many poor horses fall, the ones that actually finish look half dead by the time they get too the finish line. This is a disgrace.
@taykyl001 And then what happens to all the horses in training? And all the horses used for breeding? No racing = no breeding = no need for thousands of horses, so they all get put down. And tens of thousands of jobs lost. That's not a great solution, is it??
I bet on Tony McCoy to win in 2009 and when he didn't, I thought maybe his chance had gone. I almost put the money on for 2010 but decided against it at the last minute......Doh!
glad AP finally get his 1st national big up to the 2nd place finisher he ran his heart out hope is connections condition proper and some more luck 1 to beat next year.
@umarmaxmas agreed, i put money on him in 2009 and 2010.i thought he had it at the end.i was in for winning a nice amount but you can't take it away from tony mccoy.i hope black apalachi has something left in the tank for next year.i will put some money on him but i'm not sure about his weight and age and whether it will go against him
could watch this video over and over again, great to see the champ win it, most ap has ever won me and i back all hiss rides, had dont pust it at 33/1 with £1,000 win,
i hope the bbc take heed of the punters wishes in their coverage next year show beechers from head on like before and save ariel shots for the slow motion re run
there is no need for anymore modifications or smaller fields, aintree have kept the spectacle alive but must not change anything else, if it ceased to become a spectacle the race would die for lack of interest
I just cannot believe there are still people out there ready to jump all over McCoy every time things don't go his way, a true sporting genius. AP you king.
the horse who came fith was hello bud ridden by a 17 yr old jockey in his first ever national ,my hats off to him, what a super race he had, well done hope to back you 2011.
Fuckin ell Black Apalachi that tha nearest I'm ever gonna get 2 winnin this bastard race really thought I were gonna do it this time with him he jumped like a star 4 so long still got e/w at 14's so can't be all that bad pleased 4 AP tho a true champ!!!
I didn't have a penny on DPI (I was on My Will, nevermind...) - but I've never been so happy at the result of a National. The Champ deserved it more than anyone.
people keep saying the race isnt what it was but its total nonsence its safer which is a good thing but its still the greatest spectacle in sport , only 14 finished but at least they all came back fit and well
The horses keep running even after they have lost their riders, they seem to like what they do.
Horse123Lover456 2 weeks ago
gud love my penZi
NeRdZtW 1 month ago
ghood staf
DICKIEMONSTER 1 month ago
The horses WANT to race. They live to race
TheTEAMBUTLER 2 months ago 2
i thought aintree did a great job with the course and fences to be honest i didnt notice the changes at all at this years becher chase meeting there were fallers at bechers the bogey fence two before bechers the first big ditch and the chair. its still a unique test
Mr75littlebay 2 months ago
@Mr75littlebay Still unique but over the course a competent jumper should have no undue trouble . Still a great race but no longer the remarkable test it was when I was a kid in the 1970s. The Taxis is a far more difficult test even with modification then Bechers now is.
tigerarmyrule 2 days ago
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Mr75littlebay 3 months ago
my cousin, i live rite beside his home house!
Fahhzee 5 months ago
I think that The Grand National should be band, 2 many horses get hurt
SCOTTinHd1 6 months ago
@SCOTTinHd1 in which casing we should ban all rodeo sports cos many horses are injured and die in those too. we could also ban eventing cos dressage horses pull tendons and such, showjumpers fall and cross country horses often fall or have heart attacks or injure themselves on jumps. carriage driving should then be banned cos horses slip on the roads or get into accidents and riding school ponies get whipped and worked too long... oh wait, that means horses can only be used for eating. SHUT UP!
vixitrixalina 4 months ago
@vixitrixalina Whats your problem, i was only making a point
SCOTTinHd1 4 months ago
@SCOTTinHd1 sorry i'm just sick of people saying this race should be banned. it's been going for over 150 years, its a tradition almost. the course has been modified so much its barely a race anymore - the jumps used to be bigger, the ditches wider, the drops lower and the fences were stiffer. not only are the jumps now so much safer but they're less wide, to allow loose horses to run out so they don't cause pile ups.
vixitrixalina 4 months ago
@vixitrixalina I understand your point, theres no competion anymore
SCOTTinHd1 4 months ago
@vixitrixalina slavery was a tradition
ryko26 2 months ago
how many horses r in the grand national
TehClips 6 months ago
@TehClips 40
adambelfast1 6 months ago
@TehClips At most 40.
myfrobert 6 months ago
Damn, I was hoping to watch a video about a Buick Grand National race a Vette...
Close enough there are lots of horses and they are racing...
Danny7930 7 months ago
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arsenalmanic 7 months ago
A combination of the two toughest equestrian sports. Steeple Chasing isnt any more cruel than the super bowl would be if you had to both deal with the football AND a soccer ball! You MUST give these jockeys and horses props. Anyone who things this isnt sport doesnt even deserve to be left in the presence of any living creature.
Calieroy 7 months ago
if anyone else comes on here to say how cruel the g.n is just ignore them guys lets just keep the chat to the actual race itself and they will soon go away.....ha ha .
philip1mus 7 months ago 4
@philip1mus this is so cruel
ryko26 2 months ago
@jss1886 I'm sorry, my mistake. I didn't mean to be impolite, I'm glad you noticed the comment anyway.
I'm pretty sure I'm allowed to watch videos as much as anybody. If I come across something worth commenting, I join the conversation and express my thoughts. I'm allowed to do that too, even if I don't join the applause. I try not to get personal though.
(Talking about slaughtering, surely you don't think racehorses live happily ever after and die of old age calmly in their sleep?)
koala1234ish 8 months ago
schande!
39Jost 8 months ago
Backed Black Apalachi e/w at 14's well thought he was gonna win till 3 out when he made that mistake oh well never mind well done McCoy tho
forestcelt82 10 months ago
well done to mccoy for winning and for dont push it running well again this year, will we ever see a back to back winner again , red rum the last the true aintree legend :}
littlebay75 10 months ago
POOR HORSES.
tanjexlovex 10 months ago
Here is the prochasing rationale in this brief conversation: It's all good, because horses like this and horses know what is good for them. It's ok, because it's traditional. It's ok, because it's still happening, if it were unsafe it would have been stopped a long time ago. It's ok because these horses are treated well. It's ok because there are worse animal cruelty cases elsewhere. And a bird once got killed at a cricket match.
My point: There is obviously not enough room for good jumps.
koala1234ish 10 months ago
@koala1234ish There is, thats why 14 got round, and 7 pulled up
comeonshaymen 9 months ago
And also, I know horses are not "forced" to run this course. However, in comparison to humans, horses have tiny brains ;). They don't have any concept about safety other than it is safe to keep running with the pack and clearing those fences. Also, they are "thoroughly" bred, fed and trained for "full blast", that's their life. Saying that a horse like that could decide for himself if it is safe to run/jump the course, is like saying... I don't even know what would compare.
koala1234ish 10 months ago
If you had any clue about horse racing and how horses are treat, you would know they live a very comftable life. They are very well tendered to and cared for very much. If they wern't, they would not be racing. It is that simple. Horses are 'prey' animals, therefore have full knowledge of there safety. They have a high fight or flight response to stress. Horses are BRAVE and PROUD. they do not fear a fence. If they did they wouldnt try and make that leap. "Horses brains are smaller" Wow.
wilde33 10 months ago
@koala1234ish are you joking? "Thats their life"? i dont think a horses life should be like that! youre right in what you say about their brains - horses arent very clever,but is that a reason for being cruel? i have many horses aswell and they are happy, although they have to work hard. but this video shows people FORCING their horses to die. sorry if my english isnt that good
krizzel36 8 months ago
@krizzel36 Yeah, I meant that these horses in particular are bred and trained just for running fast. How could thay understand the risks involved. These horses will run no matter what. People are responsible for the circumstances they put their horses in.
My comment was a response to people saying horses can't be forced to run, and also that even in this race one horse decided against running, and didn't leave the starting line. That's true, but is not enough to justify this race.
koala1234ish 8 months ago
I don't have any problems with slaughtering animals for food. As long as the animals are treated well when they are alive and their death is quick and painless. I try to buy grocery according to what I believe is right. I do have a problem with this race, and I think the reason is blindingly obvious, as I watch the video play out again. Horses don't have enough room to clear the jumps safely at this speed. One mistake (even by a jockey) and they are down. There is no reason why that has to be.
koala1234ish 10 months ago
@koala1234ish Didn't have the guts to reply to me directly i see. Seriously, how pathetic is that?! Get a life! You don't have a problem with animals being slaughtered, have you ever seen the way they are treated? Quick and painless my arse!! Hyporcrite.
Simple solution to this, if you don't like this race DON'T WATCH IT!
jss1886 8 months ago
@koala1234ish You Fucking Hypocrite.
You're fine with animal slaughter, something that really is cruel
But you hate the GN, something that ISNT cruel
Go back to your meantal asylum.
Retard
comeonshaymen 8 months ago
@comeonshaymen I don't hate GN. About cruelty, try googling "slaughtering race horses". You'll find that in Australia alone "Of the 17,000 thoroughbreds born last year, only about two-thirds will ever make it to the racetrack. Of those, most suffer injuries or do not run fast enough and only about 1 to 3 per cent make it to top events." Worldwide there are ten times more bred every year. It's a huge industry and it is about money. What do you think happens to 190 000 thoroughbreds every year?
koala1234ish 8 months ago
@koala1234ish
I know! I hate racehorse slaughter. Because THAT IS CRUEL
The GN is the worlds best race. IT ISNT CRUEL
comeonshaymen 8 months ago
Arguments everywhere about the GN 8) okay guys, the grey at the start did not race. Why? He refused to. Horses wouldn't race if they didn't enjoy it. You can tell when you are riding them that they are enjoying the thrill of galloping because they are eager to go and you struggle to hold them. Clueless, ignorant people this is THE race for the best horses, and is fine as it is. I agree too many horses run this race. However, smaller jumps and a shorter distance = more speed + more deaths.
ClipClopxox 10 months ago
Do you give the horse his strength?
Or clothe his neck with a flowing mane?
Do you make him leap like the locust?
Striking terror with his proud snorting?.
He pauses fiercly rejoicing in his strength and charges into the fray,.. he laughs at fear afraid of nothing, he does not shy away from the sword. A quiver rattles against his side, along with a flashing spear and lance. In frenzied excitement he eats up the ground, He cannot stand still....when the trumpet sounds.
Job 39:19-24
wilde33 10 months ago
@Shawtymanefanxxx lower the jumps? One of the horses died at the smallest fence on the course. I'll tell you what is a good idea though you go away and learn something about racing.
dearsins 10 months ago
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Now I don't know much about horses but I know that a horse is not able to decide if it wants to race or not. You can't just say that horses just won't race if they don't want to. They have no choice. It's just cruel. Like kaznryan said: lower the jumps, shorten the race and smaller fields
simple!
ShawtyManeFanxxx 10 months ago
@ShawtyManeFanxxx A horse is not able to decide if it wants to race or not. Really? How about you actually watch this video and you will see that you are wrong. King Johns Castle actually decided he did not want to race, and HE DIDN'T. You can not make a horse run.
jss1886 10 months ago
The horse have a choice to run look at king johns castle last year in the national refused to race and on the flat sariska again refused to race TWICE learn something about racing.
dearsins 10 months ago
there has been every effort to make the race as safe as possible without losing its unique nature if the race is changed anymore nobody will watch and it will cease to exist either aintree say enough is enough and make no further alterations or they bow down to those who know nothing about racing and finally kill off this great british race.............
littlebay75 10 months ago
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kaznryan 10 months ago
Hej!
Baze44 10 months ago
I wish these animal rights idiots would piss off. This is not animal cruelty, if a horse does not want to race no one can make it. Unseated horses continue to run and jump simply because they enjoy it. Why ban it? If you dont like it, dont watch it, simple. Yes it's upsetting when a horse dies, but to ban it would be stupid. In any sport you take risks, what should we do, ban all sports just in case?!
Anyway i love this race especially as this was when i got my first winner!!
jss1886 10 months ago
@jss1886 Oh please. Unseated horses continue to run and jump because that is what horses do, when the pack runs they run. Do you really think the horses have a choice here?
You know, I bet there are people who call even dog fighting a great sport, since the dogs are just lovin it. They have to be dragged out of the pit, that's how much fun they are having! It's not "taking a risk" if there is no chance of avoiding an innocent animal getting seriously hurt, it is brutality and far from sports.
koala1234ish 10 months ago
@koala1234ish If a horse doesn't want to run, you cant make it run!! Dont even compare it to dog fighting. Let's ban all sports shall we. Just sit around and do nothing, thats safer. No sports, no drinking, smoking, nothing. And ban conkers as well, yeah, someone could get seriously hurt playing that. I know, I dont like sp**s, i think we should ban them and everything else i dont like.
Get real, it's a sport thats been going for years. They aint going to ban it just to suit you!
jss1886 10 months ago
@jss1886 HOW ABOUT YOU STOP BEING SO INCONSIDERATE AND WE WHIP AND RACE YOU ROUND A TRACK AND MAKE YOU RUN AND JUMP OVER THOSE FENCES?? EVEN WHEN YOUR SWEATING ?? HOW WOULD U FEEL?? IF U DIE AND WE CALL YOU AN OBSTACLE HOW WOULD U LIKE THAT??? WOULD YOU LIKE THAT??? CONSIDER EVERYONE ELSES OPINIONS AND STOP BEING SO SELF CENTERED!!! ALSO YES GRAND NATIONAL HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS!! TO FUCKING MANY YEARS!!! IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE !! CHANGE THE RACE SOME HOW!!!
1slaggy 10 months ago
@1slaggy What's with the caps?! Your the sad case searching for videos you clearly hate just so you can bitch. What a sad life you lot have. Im entitled to my fucking opinion too, and dont give a flying fuck as to what you think. I'll continue to watch, have a bet on and enjoy the National, so you can lick my crack if you dont like it. Seriously, go play with the traffic!
jss1886 10 months ago
@jss1886 WHY dont you go and play with the traffic and bet on yourself being a cunt!!!
1slaggy 10 months ago
@1slaggy ''Cunt,'' such a big intelligent word for a mong like you. Oh wait, was that meant to hurt my feelings? lmfao. FAIL. Too bad, try again.
Bring on next years National! Woohoo!!!!
jss1886 10 months ago
@jss1886 Why is dog fighting so different? It's an ancient sport, isn't it, and I'm sure there are dogs who are just superb and survive. It's the same here, there are winners, but there are even more those who fall. The falls are no accidents, they are prone to happen in this setting, and they have to happen for the thrills. That's what I'm against, I don't think horses are made to run or mistreated otherwise. Lower fences would not help that much safetywise, the track is just way too crowded.
koala1234ish 10 months ago
@koala1234ish How can you compare horse racing to dog fighting? It's a barbaric sport that is banned, if horse racing was the same do you seriously think it would still be going on today? The whole point of the length of the course and the height of the fences is to test the horses, that's what makes it so great. If they were forced to run or mistreated, which even you can't say they are, it would be wrong.
jss1886 10 months ago
@koala1234ish Why are you not complaining about things like animals being slaughtered for human consumption? Are you a vegan? Did you start kicking up a stink about the National, then sit down for your sunday roast over the weekend? What about fishing, fish get killed? Or how about we ban Cricket, all those trees getting chopped down for the bats and stumps, and a bird got killed at Lords once. And i hate Cricket. And did you complain about the National last year when NO horses were killed?
jss1886 10 months ago
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kaznryan 10 months ago 2
@kaznryan what are the horses going to do fart ? there are too many in this race though i mean 100-1? 4m race no chance
bobodd5 10 months ago
@kaznryan "horses are a herd animal so of course the ones without jockeys are going to want to be with their friends." actually, no. they want to race. why would you assume every horse is friends with every other horse like a my little pony episode?
kkpanda13 3 months ago
THEWARWILLNEVEREND 10 months ago
ive gone for oscar time to win, and had a small each way bet on comply or die as he always seems to come placed
CbFailsTBH 10 months ago
Iv gone for Calgary bay, good outside bet
jammyguk 10 months ago
whos havin a bet this year??? im havin charatcher building, ballabrigs and calgary bay xxx
Horsemadhols 10 months ago
@Horsemadhols I've gone for midnight chase and my outside bet is majestic concorde
yorkokillo 10 months ago
1:28 thats my horse, 150-1 :'( All the way till last fence... :'(
ajburr 10 months ago
think i might back alex fergusons horse "what a friend" sounds decent, but any hosre can win this race!!
luke18wright 10 months ago
It should be with them horses djm lol
medicalemergency 10 months ago
majestic concorde and niche market for me this year, but it should be called the national lottery not the grand national!
djm2554 10 months ago
arbor supreme and calgary bay this year :)
ninj4ferret 10 months ago
state of play and big fellow thanks i'm backing
TheMyke3686 10 months ago
@TheMyke3686 hello bud and big fellow thanks for me
flogmyauto 10 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Whats up with the new camera views of them jumping bechers etc?
prefered the old style..
Have already backed 2 winners over the fences last 2 days baby run & always waining & today im gunna be backing the midnight club, tidal bay, becauseicouldntsee & grand slam hero who has some old form that gives him a chance..good luck everyone on whoever you back ;D
adzybear1989 10 months ago
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adzybear1989 10 months ago
The poor horses.. they have to run for ages! Some horses have heartattacks!
CocoLovesHorses14 10 months ago
@CocoLovesHorses14 Poor humans... they have to run for ages! Some humans have heartattacks!
Snafu320 10 months ago
@CocoLovesHorses14 2 horses usually die because they break their necks when they fall over the fence, because its so high
yorkokillo 10 months ago
I am totally behind character building tomorrow I have him at 25/1 each way and I believe in him, along with the other grey silve by nature, and I have big fella thanks aswell all each way. Sounds like someone here likes greys lol :)
bunnyhop28 10 months ago
i work for john quinn who trains the grey gelding, character building, its such a great pleasure to have a horse of ours in the grand national and although he didnt win, he finished and didnt fall. bring it on again 2mora.
sackybabba 10 months ago
in todays topham the bogey fence { 2 before bechers } strikes again !!!!!!!!! and bechers still has its bite that grey was very lucky indeed to get up from that fall
littlebay75 10 months ago
i see the bbc has totally ignored all the racing fans who wanted the old style coverage over national fences instead of all the high tech stuff which takes away so much of the excitement and spontaneous feeling from the live action !!!!!!!!!!!!
littlebay75 10 months ago
Any horse that completes the National is a mutant!!!
andrewoldacre 10 months ago
I fancy character building for 2011 for a bit of National history; seems to fit the profile of a national winner. Niche Market for a good run too.
grincher2006 10 months ago
watched foxhunters for some reason the plain fence two before bechers has become the bogey fence pile up second time round last years national and again at becher chase and again today !!!!
littlebay75 10 months ago
@littlebay75 its been jumping "big" for a couple of years now. It was the same for the 2010 becher chase. Its pretty much compensating for the 3rd, 5th and 6th which seems to jump easier these days.
grincher2006 10 months ago
Look at Hello Bud for 33/1
FMKyleReynolds 10 months ago
That's some weird perspective by that super zoomed camera.
johanneswingerlang 10 months ago
what pisses me off is when a horse has an injury they want to put it down but they don't put a human down if they do themselves an injury
what a load of bollocks that is
MYBIGKINDHEART 10 months ago
@MYBIGKINDHEART because you can't fix a horses broken leg. not because they can't be bothered and they kill the horse to put them out of its misery
punkychumpy09 10 months ago
@punkychumpy09 This is actually not true, but it does cost a lot of money, time, and pain for the horse. He would have to hang in a sort of hammock for months. This is very frustrating for a horse, plus he could get pressure points on the places where the hammock cuts into the skin. So yeah, a lot of people find it more humane to kill the horse.
brittsophie 10 months ago
@brittsophie oh i see thanks ,its cruel but it puts them out of a long gruelling pain but those two horses that died suffered broken necks.
punkychumpy09 10 months ago
will he get put down ???
SuperMw2man 10 months ago
@SuperMw2man no he will not be put down
he never broke a leg and he was most certainly not destroyed and the simple fact that he is not in the race this year is he has been pulled out through an injury of a torn fibre in his tendon
i wish other people on here would do there research before putting up comments about destroyed through broken leg
idiots
MYBIGKINDHEART 10 months ago
Black apalachi was destroyed broken leg
johnyonionrings 11 months ago
@johnyonionrings where on earth did you hear this absolute nonsense, the horse is very much alive but not fully fit
dumbass
MYBIGKINDHEART 10 months ago
state of play dont ignore 20/1 big fella thanks run well last time.but the biggest danger to all is ruby ride the midnight club. dont push it i dont think so very hard to win in national back to back. gud value e/w tip as well 50/1 giles cross rider dennis oregan twice 2nd in 4mile 2f,hes a rider as well of black apalachi last yr.be smart for betting.
kheilareign 11 months ago
how come black apalachi isnt in this years one ??
SuperMw2man 11 months ago
@SuperMw2man Sustained an injury before the entries were released. I was gutted.
PepsiBoy3000 11 months ago
@SuperMw2man he has been pulled out of the race due to an injury with a torn fibre in his tendon, pity really as he ran so well last year, but better to be safe than sorry, and maybe i think they should possibly retire him
as they may have no other option to do so in the end but hey 2nd in the national is still really good and if he doesn't run anymore then I'd say that would be the best thing to do
MYBIGKINDHEART 10 months ago
really fancy big fella thanks this year, just maybe he might have won it last year if ruby walsh didn't get injured prior to this race, as he would have gave him a good ride.. but take nothing away from A.P.. top man and deserved it! State of play makes up by each way bet, hasn't raced since last years national but better when fresh apparantly so hopefully this could be the case :) fancy Hello Bud as well, even though he's 13 now.. who is everyone else backing?!
lagger21 11 months ago
@lagger21 i might do last years winner
MYBIGKINDHEART 10 months ago
touted obvious horses seldom win the national so i wont be backing what a friend or the midnight club the handicap now though means that horses carrying more than 11st can be backed with confidence funnily this actually happened in 1965 and the higher weights filled most of the places including the winner jay trump and second freddie and both were fancied , i think one of the less fancied horses like becauseicouldntsee or notre pere might win
littlebay75 11 months ago
@BigPhil1982 you are having a laugh!This is the Grand National and not a little handicap at Fontwell!What a Friend is unproven over the distance and the fences.He also wears blinkers which in some cases can be worrying.The other problem is that unlike the old days,everything will be in the h`cap proper.And you don`t know the ground.You are talking drivvle!
postcardterry 11 months ago
Does anyone know how you message the RUK Youtube channel? Can we get them to upload 2006 & 2008 which appear to be missing :(
mullio 11 months ago
Never screamed a horse home so much in my life,I had £50 on it at 20/1,the trackside bookie didn't look impressed when I handed over my bettin slip haha
trillb19 11 months ago
The one horse I had.. King John's Castle.. just typical
footieparade 11 months ago 2
@footieparade my mum had that one hahahh
PSNzDubstep 10 months ago
this is the first time since Red Rum that I have seen my father screaming at the TV... :-)
ougal84 11 months ago
Well in AP this year is going to be gerraghty I'm quietly confident
tomkayll12 11 months ago
I told all everyone i know and their dog to back Black Apalachi and i was screaming at the tv over the last and of all years it was McCoy who would win!!ha ha well done Tony,il get ya next time....
MrSmid888 1 year ago
OMG - first time I've ever seen a steeplechase. Those are superhero horses - how the heck do you condition a horse to run that far and jump so many fences? And how the heck do those jockeys stay on in that position?? Makes me feel like quite the prat for falling off my horse in way tamer situations. How thrilling!
follepourchevaux 1 year ago
@follepourchevaux How have you not seen this before?!! lol I thought this was shown all over the world. Not really a betting person myself, but this is the only race i look forward to every year. Luv it!!! :D
jss1886 10 months ago
brilliant...come on mccoy!!!!!!!!!!
danny5763 1 year ago
all the talk is for the midnight club but i like the look of scots irish who ran well when second over these fences
littlebay75 1 year ago
Calgary Bay is cryin out for national fences and londer trip.
doylerz2008 1 year ago
Cannot see Don't Push It winning again this year given the weights it got. State of Play seems a decent bet as any about now imo...
Nathan084 1 year ago
It is heart breaking when a horse falls on your fence and wont get up, last year the first race i went on, a milemay, a horse fell and had to be killed not nice, hopefully none fall this year or no fatalities.
maltichjsx 1 year ago
I loved this day i was on canal turn working on the fence, as i will be this year :), you never know the thrill of the national till you are standing right next to the fence.
maltichjsx 1 year ago
Can anybody tell me what happened to the horses Cloudy Lane and Idle Talk? They were Ginger Mccains horses which have ran in the recent Grand Nationals. Send me a message if you have any information. Thanks
Jo0osh1 1 year ago
@taykyl001 and JamBar1873
in football players get injured so does that mean footy should be banned: its the same as that you DUMBASSES
comeonshaymen 1 year ago
damn it i hadc loads on black apalachi... he really deserved it
but well done to tony and dont push it
hello bud or frankie figg for 2011
comeonshaymen 1 year ago
did any1 see the ride mc coy gave folie a duex at warwick on 27th this month the man is fuck pure class
frconvey 1 year ago 2
@frconvey I backed it and was gonna rip it up, hes in a class of his own
imnothereactually 1 year ago
I Was There And It Was Amazing, I Betted On AP Mccoy And Don't Push The Day Before (My First Bet) An Got It Right! :)
It Was Funny When One Of The Horses Wanted To Go Before The Line Thing Went xD Then It Wouldn't Go At All When It Was Ment To.
HorseyLover9110 1 year ago
My first exposure to the Grand National was, of course, Enig Bagnold's book "National Velvet" and the movie of the same name. I know some of the jumps have names but they all look alike to me. And they all look scary! What a race - really exciting.
earlymusicus 1 year ago
was this called a win for britian or ireland. irish trained,owned and ridden
green1773 1 year ago
@green1773 I know what you mean, but officially, it will be an English trained winner as that is where O'Neill is based.
grincher2006 1 year ago
well done ap mccoy the ultimate professional!!!!
littlebay75 1 year ago
the grandnational is the best race in the world!!! i wanted snowy morning to wi, but tony mccoy won on dont push it
SP010976 1 year ago
Finally Tony wins the grand national.He deserves it.
salmahn 1 year ago
Based on Black Appalachi's run this year following a fall I would agree that Maljimar is a cracking bet for next year E/W.
jonnybeeston 1 year ago
初めて海外の障害レース見ました！
迫力の違いに驚きです＠＠
dg1braves 1 year ago
classic ap
robplaister 1 year ago
...backed 4 horses E/W in this race...1st of which was King John's Castle!...take a wild guess what the other 3 were!!!?...
Yep...Black Apalachi, State of Play & Big Fella Thanks!
timalloybhoy 1 year ago
@timalloybhoy Nicely done.
My Will for me. :(
Bizarroisb00n 1 year ago
watch that maljimar 2011 national.it was travelling like a winner when falling beachers 2nd time
ibanez777vbk 1 year ago
Das ist abscheulich !!!
dogochi 1 year ago
if a jockeyi i.e a p mccoy doesnt win sports personality this year its a disgrace all the other sports have not produced a star performer this year so everyone vote for this supreme ambassador for his sport !!!!!!!!!!!!
littlebay75 1 year ago
What do you mean adisgrace. Just watch a race over fences and when you see a jockey falling off watch what most horses do they continue jumping thats what these horses are bred to do and to say it,s cruel , your talking garbage
kevinshaun15 1 year ago
So What about 40 horses start the race, how many actually finish the race. They should ban steeplchase races, how many poor horses fall, the ones that actually finish look half dead by the time they get too the finish line. This is a disgrace.
taykyl001 1 year ago
@taykyl001 And then what happens to all the horses in training? And all the horses used for breeding? No racing = no breeding = no need for thousands of horses, so they all get put down. And tens of thousands of jobs lost. That's not a great solution, is it??
JamBar1873 1 year ago
ELADDY AP!
JacobMilner 1 year ago
just turned 18 , work at a bookies, this was my first win , good times :) x
kaiokenx145 1 year ago
I bet on Tony McCoy to win in 2009 and when he didn't, I thought maybe his chance had gone. I almost put the money on for 2010 but decided against it at the last minute......Doh!
DaveBond21 1 year ago
Still gives me goosebumps! I jus member screamin in d bookies! Cum on AP! Best in the world!
sheva7anto 1 year ago
glad AP finally get his 1st national big up to the 2nd place finisher he ran his heart out hope is connections condition proper and some more luck 1 to beat next year.
birdatplay 1 year ago
Tony mc Coy is the best jocke the world
KevinClogne 1 year ago
@KevinClogne
I agree :)
xWibbleywobbleyx 1 year ago
i thinkblack apalache ran a beautiful race, was undone by a more calculated dont push it
umarmaxmas 1 year ago
@umarmaxmas agreed, i put money on him in 2009 and 2010.i thought he had it at the end.i was in for winning a nice amount but you can't take it away from tony mccoy.i hope black apalachi has something left in the tank for next year.i will put some money on him but i'm not sure about his weight and age and whether it will go against him
stardustdave85 1 year ago
could watch this video over and over again, great to see the champ win it, most ap has ever won me and i back all hiss rides, had dont pust it at 33/1 with £1,000 win,
APMCCOY92 1 year ago
i hope the bbc take heed of the punters wishes in their coverage next year show beechers from head on like before and save ariel shots for the slow motion re run
littlebay75 1 year ago
Aww so happy for AP, he deserved it :) the win was even more impressive considering how much weight the horse was carrying!
xWibbleywobbleyx 1 year ago
i was there what a thrill to see ap win his 1st Grand National i backed Big Fella Thanks i was standing on the hill viewing the 1st fence
chrisnufc24 1 year ago
Finally ... Tony McCoy won the National. Hahaha ... A mighty champion with the grand slam of jumps racing!
myfrobert 1 year ago
what jockey what a man
APMCCOY92 1 year ago
there is no need for anymore modifications or smaller fields, aintree have kept the spectacle alive but must not change anything else, if it ceased to become a spectacle the race would die for lack of interest
littlebay75 1 year ago
I just cannot believe there are still people out there ready to jump all over McCoy every time things don't go his way, a true sporting genius. AP you king.
dmr250488 1 year ago 2
@dmr250488 It's because they're bad losers. AP is a legend.
LovesJumps 1 year ago
the horse who came fith was hello bud ridden by a 17 yr old jockey in his first ever national ,my hats off to him, what a super race he had, well done hope to back you 2011.
selve1966 1 year ago
@selve1966 I had a bet on him, was placed so ok. Yeah he had the race of his life. To not only complete it, but came 5th. amazing!
redbird146 1 year ago
Fuckin ell Black Apalachi that tha nearest I'm ever gonna get 2 winnin this bastard race really thought I were gonna do it this time with him he jumped like a star 4 so long still got e/w at 14's so can't be all that bad pleased 4 AP tho a true champ!!!
celticfan82 1 year ago
i am so glad all the horses and jokey's where all ok, and tony mcoy deserved the win :) i was routing for black appalache.
thecazzledazzle 1 year ago
@thecazzledazzle 4 horses died
tde1985 1 year ago
@tde1985 5 horses died during the festival - None of them in the Grand National.
MaccaCafc 1 year ago
I didn't have a penny on DPI (I was on My Will, nevermind...) - but I've never been so happy at the result of a National. The Champ deserved it more than anyone.
tcacVII 1 year ago
@tcacVII Same here
LovesJumps 1 year ago
people keep saying the race isnt what it was but its total nonsence its safer which is a good thing but its still the greatest spectacle in sport , only 14 finished but at least they all came back fit and well
littlebay75 1 year ago
Black Apalachi is a total ledgend
AztecBbz1 1 year ago
delighted for mccoy but look at conna castle from the 3rd to the 25th in d orange with nose band my god did he enjoy it looked great
jono1563 1 year ago