Rather than reading the book itself he claims that Google is a great way to find research on religion which is a controversial subject that most websites are going to have biases and false leads to prove a points.
The verse (23:14) “then clothed the bone with flesh” does not necessarily pertain that bone came first but that flash covers the bone. The fact that they develop at the same time is true, the book is trying to explain one of the roles of flash has on the human body is that it covers bones. That verse is open for interpretation but obviously the narrator has a bias towards the topic so he’s going to interpreted in a way to challenge the intelligence of the Quran….
the quran was written by ONE person, and has been burned and recollected from the people who CLAIMED they memorized it. so, what makes it irrefutable?
the main point is that the quran came from god. No one in arabia or at the time of prophet Muhammad PBUH knew or had any knowledge regarding the moon, earth orbiting the sun, earth having an ostrich egg-like shape, embryology, etc. This faggot doesnt understand these verses because he doesnt know arabic. you need to know arabic in order to understand the verses clearly.
to do, I will have to venture for my self, and find out what gives peace to my own mind, that is what I believe our concience is for..so if you are satisfied by refute that the Quran is wrong that is fine, but I just wanted to argue the some choose to see what they want to see, and that I don't think you or me an exception. Also I apologize for some Muslims here using vulgar language or arguing in a bizarre way, that is not Quran endorsed at all. Sorry for the long comments! Just had to say it.
in the Quran that these 'facts' were not mentioned before, nothing in the Quran denies science to be true unless it is a Muslim, I don't think it even denies heaven from non 'Muslims' and I quote cause muslims these days embrace the words as a form of magical text rather than a linguistic expression of something to be understood beyond words. I know my argument is not a logical one, I am not a doctor and if doctor's disagree what an embryo starts with just as people disagree what a gay guy ought
see?, I don't believe that the Quran is meant to be a science book, it is a purpose book, and it leaves a lot of moral options to you a lot of unanswered questions about life for you to find out the answer for, but it gives you a purpose to accept your existence (for me anyways), a guideline that you can follow, In the Quran God says a lot of what is said in the Quran is only an affirmation of what was said before in Christianity and Judaism..is that plagirism by Mohamed then, nothing says in
a person would choose to sleep with someone, and to me all the reasons that led to a man doing it, were all unromantic and deeply emotionaly disturbed and unbalanced, is that what I wanted to find out??...maybe, but trust me I wanted to turn out wrong, I wanted to feel God ok with being gay like some have chose for them selves. SO! embryos, and the moon, and etc...Capn, regardless of the Quran do you want to believe that God did leave a message for the earth or not? what is it that you want to
Shit I am sorry! Too long of a post eh, I guess what I can cut to is, I after realisticly dealing with gay men, and seeing what most of us are..emotionaly damaged guys, that have a deeply distorted version of malehood, and also discovering that there is alot of 'straight' men, who turn to the gay life style after getting sick about how women are hard to please and get pleased by, and bisexual men, I started to realise..thats why God did not mention gay as gay, cause that is not the only reason
obvious figure, but as I was saying is that people choosing to see what they want to see, this argument can be used not just on Muslims on anything human, how can we then stop that?? what do you suggest, I personally what I did, is that I chose to realistically see, my biggest issue with religion which is not embryo development honestly, there is a lot of admirable profound human values in religions, and would like to attain them, but my problem was the 'gay thing' I ahd to understand why does
feel authenticated..or something, however the Quran, or most Holy books, do not actualy justify these particular settings, you'll find then either Hadith, or what St.Paul, and what St.John claimed that starts to morph the religion into something deeply complicated and particular..and quiet frustrating to tell the truth, what does this all have to do with Embryo's?? which by the way, I don't think your links show that musles show up first, it shows the vertebrate alone being the most prominent
and to my amazement, how BASIC these morals were, they were all more or less the same, I was sort of shocked yet again comforted...that all this dispute about which religion is realy right, there morals are more less the same, yes some peculiar habits was in every religion, and those peculiar habits would be the most revered or else that religion wouldn't be THAT unique, and having to be secluded for being gay, I noticed people tend to like to assimilate habits/rituals/traditions, so that they
or even...explained it, but still..I started to feel enraged that God or Religions put me in an easily judged position, but still I had all these strong innate feelings, that I felt I had no choice in, what am I supposed to do with these, for even athiest people do not like gays unless they want to use us as a proof of there case, so I was puzzled...but other than being gay I had to dig through the morality system of most of the other religions while hacking to find what it says about gays
would make me feel ok with who I am, as someone attracted to his own kind, it would explain why am I like this, I wasn't exactly looking for a religion to tell me its ok to have sex (Although that would be lovely), but I wanted a holy book that will tell me no I am not making this feeling up (as I thought the Quran seemed to before), anyways I searched and searched, and alas shockingly, but somehow comforting, ALL religions do not find gay is ok, at the least either its disliked, none embracd it
Too beutifull and enchanting, to believe that there is no creator, yes not a logical approach in the sense, but it made 'Sense' which does not always include logic alone it includes heart as well..to me anyways, anyways carrying on, I was like well I was born a muslim, maybe I am born in the wrong place and into the wrong religion, after all not everyone was born into 'islam', maybe the true 'God' 'religion' is out there, maybe that is my quest, to find which God is right and follow that, and it
Hi I am a muslim, gay guy...the reason I say both is that I just want to say I understand what it means to be a 'muslim', and someone who is torn by 'logic' or feeling 'well then why does the *insert God's text of choice* here say this. I was baffled or betrayed or whatever word you'd like to describe how you feel that makes you an agnostic/athiest whatever, I tried to seek other religions as an escape, for I honestly did embrace the idea of God, I am some who loves arts, and thus I found nature
brother u just talk about sperm no egg hummmm "its "seed" not sperm ok so how seed take place so study seed germination " ha i which world u ar study ayatul kursi and its meaning then may be u will came to come point
ACCORDING TO MUSLIMS THE QURAN TALKS ABOUT THE THERORY OF THE BIG BANG IN 21:30 WHERE IT SAYS THAT "THE HEAVEN AND THE EARTH FORMED A COMPACT MASS THAT WE SEPARATED" BUT WAIT A MINUTE, ACCORDING TO SCIENTIST THE EARTH EXISTED MILLIONS OF YEARS AFTER THE BIG BANG. IT COULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE DURING THE BIG BANG, AND BESIDES THE QURAN SAYS IN 41:10-12 THE OPPOSITE, THAT GOD CREATED THE EARTH FIRST AND THEN THE HEAVEN. SO IT IS IMPOSSIBLE
@silveren777 If evolution or abiogenesis had theorized "Adam and Eve" bogus and later found to be false, they gracefully accept defeat. Will the religions have the same level of humility to acknowledge DEFEAT???
Depends on what you mean by religion, because there are many different thinkings in just ONE religion.
If indeed science invalidated completely the myth of Adam&Eve as told in scriptures, then some religious people would consider this myth as a metaphor,
other would deny what science showed and would make up their own pseudoscientific theories
2. What about the claims of 4000 other odd religions which dont believe in Adam and Eve bogus?? (and trust me, "GOD" spoke to them too but never mentioned Adam and Eve and many religions have more than one Gods too!!!!)
3. If i come up with a vague theory of God being defined as "a HUMAN with wings and 4 dicks", will you believe "MY" GOD or not?? And should I pray to Him UNTIL you disprove it??
1. Of course, not! However some interpreted the 6 days as great periods.
2. believers woul told you that although God indeed revealed himself to those "pagan" religions by sending them a messenger, those folks finally corrupted God's words and modified the religion according to their own desires. This is consistent in itself, but baseless compared to history.
3. No, it'b be "worthy of worship" if there were evidence for its existence
@silveren777 Those pagans call you NON-pagan!!!! Whats your thoughts on that?? Do you think there is any GOD who thinks his own creations are FUCKED UP like shit???
i'm not a muslim but anyone well-versed in islam will tell you that main condition to enter the islamic paradise (and see the Houris) is to believe in God AND that Muhammad is his messenger.
@silveren777 And anyone well versed in Islam will also tell you to smash the skulls of IDOL WORSHIPPERS liw Jews and Christians, Munafiqs and 10 varities of Kuffars!!!!!
and it's dumb you distort what i said. I stated if you allow for a supernatural Hand (that acts, by definition, in unpredictable ways) in science, the latter would loose its predictive power, because our experience couldn't be reliable, indeed nothing would prevent this Hand from tricking it.
@silveren777 every scientific description of the beginning of the universe allows for the supernatural. Every "scientific" theory on the beginning of life calls on the supernatural that has never been seen, tested or even proven. (by default meta physical). Has any scientist proven that life can come from none life? have you seen it happen? If it is unscientific to believe in such, why do you think you are any different from the religious. You both believe in what is unseen, untested unproven?
'every scientific description of the beginning of the universe allows for the supernatural'
Yes, but in this view, supernatural is on a fundamental level, everything is already determined, so God hasn't to intervene to create things AFTER the establishement of natural laws and is less harmful to science, contrary to what we discussed.
That relies on a dubious definition of 'metaphyisical'; a metaphysical object is by definition beyond physics, beyond matter and sometimes explains the latters.
Something supernatural is on the realm of metaphysics and is untestABLE and unprovABLE empirically.
However a unknown natural causes, by defintion, can be tested and proven DEPENDING ON OUR KNOWLEDGE, indeed you forget Science progresses with time.
@silveren777 Yes and an until science explains that which we dont know, stop claiming to have proof, matter of fact dont even claim that it will be ultimately explained. One can make the very same argument for any god they believe in or any supernatural oddity one may find.
@silveren777 That is your myopic point of view (or should we call it the right word, your natuarlist religion, devoid of reason and hell bent on twisting science so that it fits your personal beliefs.
It is really amazing that practically all the arguments you make, are the very same ones the religious nuts the world over make. But for some reason you think I shall ignore this and simply believe your rather weak arguments.
No, there is no naturalistic religion, or any of your fantaisies around here, i'm afraid.
Twisting science? I hope you're kidding!
That's your argument that's BS, since you imply that, for a unknown phenomena in the Universe, God's direct intervention (supernatural) and a natural cause are equally likely.
We have reasons to believe there are natural causes for a unknown phenomena but not a single for a supernatural hand (which is dangerous for science predictive power).
all muslims are better christians that christians it clearly says in the bible that dont eat pork and lots of other things that christians dont do and muslims do
yeah you got the embryology right sitting on your computer and making youtube videos while doctor moore got it wrong devoting his life to Embryology ... he say
"It has been a great pleasure for me to help clarify statements in the Qur'an about human development. It is clear to me that these statements must have come to Muhammad from God, or Allah, because most of this knowledge was not discovered until many centuries later. This proves to me that Muhammad must have been a messenger of God"
dear CapnOrdinary...you failed man..The old greek also didnt know much about embryo..the old greek juz simply an old poet and artis and lack of science knowledge..try to study..is it the old greek studying/ discovering biology?? nah you just make a bullshit out of yourself CapnShitty..
why did you do the quran the honor of acknowledging that it even mentioned the moon as reflecting light, when many translations make it clear that the moon is indeed referenced as a source of light, and that the same word is used to refer to Allah himself, as the "light of the heavens and the earth". Or do these intellectually dishonest miracle fabricators want to claim that Allah's light is borrowed/reflected? great vid, btw
Just a bunch of outdated knowledge, and they say their is science in the quran. Please, is there a verse in the quran about insulting people's intelligence.
-Scientists Have discovered 7 layers in the sky outside of earth, the Troposphere, stratosphere, ozone, Mesosphere, Thermosphere, Ionosphere, and exosphere.
"Quran 2:29 It is he who has created all things for you on earth, in addition, his plans called for heavens, and he gave order and perfection to the 7 skys: and of all things, he is all knowing. "
@usamuslimgirl "SCIENTIFICAL PROOFS OF THE QURAN PT1-Scientists Have discovered 7 layers in the sky outside of earth, the Troposphere, stratosphere, ozone, Mesosphere, Thermosphere, Ionosphere, and exosphere."
Sooo, are you suggesting that the stars are in the troposphere? Maybe 12 miles from the Earth's surface? Scientists would be surprised to learn this, I'm sure.
Quran 41:12, 67:3,5 "So He ordained them seven heavens...and We adorned the lower heaven with brilliant stars"
Regarding the Earth's shape, the newest interpretation is "Ostrich-egg shaped". I shit you not. Unfortunately, I can't read arabic so I just have to rely on the many translations put forward.
I am an agnostic and i do feel i have to call bullshit on your embryology. Now i dont know which people you are talking about, but you make a rather huge leap or silly assumption that whoever created man did it via the regular means that you claim in this video (ie, the womb or testube or some other mechanism that would require development as you posted. YOu are making rather huge assumption. And the worst part yet is that you stupidly mention the absence of the female...ARE YOU SERIOUS?
@karamarouge Surely even the dumbest of atheists should be aware that at one point in life there had to be a single lone ancestor of life. So how can you make such a stupid statement regarding the creation of the first man on earth?
Seriously, how stupid is that?
Also, (and this is a genuince question) Are you an expert in embryology? Where did you read that the skin is formed before the skeleton. Please enlighten me so i can find this source and become better informed.
@karamarouge "And the worst part yet is that you stupidly mention the absence of the female...at one point in life there had to be a single lone ancestor of life....such a stupid statement regarding the creation of the first man on earth?"
Still trying to decipher your question.
Are you suggesting that the reproduction of early asexual microorganisms like viruses or bacteria involved sperm and the formation of bones? Or that it's possible that humans reproduced asexually in earlier times?
@ansar90 well ansar... although the unbeliever is quick to discredit our faith... we should know that they also have their own faith. In it, they believe Muhammad (pbuh) had lengthy conversations with greek scholars and philosophers regarding these matters. He discussed in depth Pytagoras, Aristotle, and the sorts. They have the right to believe these things as we have the right to believe otherwise. Let the kuffar be kuffar, there is no compulsion in religion. Assalamu aleykum.
So who is the creator? Jesus or you dad? So in your opinion what do you expect the Creator to be like. The Christians want God to die for their sins, the Jews wanted him to be their personal and private God who will always bail them out whenever they behave like criminals and the Hindus want him to be in every creature they worship. So what you want him to be? So in your opinion God should be what you want him to be.
hello pighead, do you know your religion well?? your stupid allah is the one who produce the torah, the bible and the quran. looks like allah is pretty stupid after 3 books, he still can't get it right.
and whatever that is inaccurate or altered in the bible only show how incompetent and ignorant your stupid allah is.
just goes to prrof that allah is nothing but a fart from pedophile mohamed's ass
People like you are just a waste of time on the planet and I am not interested in wasting my time on idiots like you because just post whatever you heard or think based on others testimony. Let me tell you. In the sight of God the lief that you live here is just a couple of hours because 1000 years is a day. So you can say whatever you say or do but your days will take you to grave soon and where you will know who Allah is and what is your position will be.
When Allah create human being he knew that they would be the biggest enemy that oppose him but he would let them live a comfortable lives here and then catch them, when they are taking a nap. It is in the Qur'an that you would be ungrateful and the angels said when God revealed that he wanted to create human being to worship him but God had other planes. Problem is you don't have copy of a Qur'an to go through it and you pick from enemies of Islam.
so you dont allow those who speak the truth and is against the wrong teachings of islam. rather you prefer to listen to what you want, not what you can't accpet as the truth really hurts you.
so you prefer to live in a pool of lies, deceiving yourself and the public
Enough. This is not a platform for you to spread hatred against an entire population group. Please explain how what you're doing is any better than what you accuse them of. Or rather, you can't, because I just blocked you. Buh-bye now.
Looks like you are an Atheist and want everyone to follow your life and we don't give a dime what the fuck you say we have our own way of life and we will decide what is necessary for our children. We just don't need an Atheist or a Secularist to tell us what we should do. If you want to let your girls fornicate and screw and become prostitutes until they are 18 then I feel sorry for sorry ass like you. Do you really believe in a open society like your s they don't get screwed?
we have heard it over and over again but there is nothing you can do we will prevail over your nukes and WMD. There is no fuck you can do, we will live the 7th century life compared to you homosexual ass licking life. Just fuck off.
If Allah wants to destroy a people , it is very simple, he would only send a plague and everyone will be finished. Allah has destroyed many nations but the Jews will be their until their appointed time. This is how Allah makes thing easy for people to understand. Allah has his own way of testing people if they are fit to be in paradise, he just give them more time to turn towards him. And the more they do wrong it is easier to collect them into the hell fire. So don't be arrogant.
On and off he does you asshole, the earth quakes, tsunami, floods, tornadoes, diseases and so many other things but you idiot attribute it to nature. Allah does not accept challenges of cockroaches because he has already informed the Kuffars that he let them have a comfortable live here just for an appointed time because a day is in the sight of God is 1000 years and you are here only for a couple of hours. Don't talk like a retard use your dead brain.
AdorIslam hahaha, allah is so stupid and dumb idiot he doesnt even know about germs he doesnt even know there are other moons in our solar system all he said is the moon he can see cos he can't see the other moons he doesnt have telescope kafir hasnt invented it yet> Hahahahahha stupid fool fuck allah may shit be rubbed on allah's asshole
@AdorIslam Both of you sound like idiots...Planet888 because he's obviously very nearly illiterate, hydromett, because he just simply reverts to the name calling high school bullying he's probably been using his whole life and You Adorislam, because you make claims about a holy book that is so immoral that it should be sold as toilet paper, not the unalterable perfect word of god...
If any muslim wants to challenge me to a debate, I'M DOWN...
I am not unreasonable, and I back my answers up...
It looks like another ignorant person who knows nothing about Islam wants to debate. BTW what you know about Islam. If you want to argue with me I am sure that you will end up in the toilet by cleaning up the shit an piss there. Anyway you are welcome to debate provided always bring froof and references with you.
I don't think that you can even debate the basics of Islam. You are just another asshole like everybody else. If you think you can debate Islam come with proof and references. Or just fuck off.
Planet, you are either a Zionist Jew or a pagan, they are the ones hate believers especially Islam. In fact we are born Muslims but the fact is that we never practice Islam in the beginning, we live like you, as animals but over the years, when we grow up we become conscious of our purpose in life and we start to read that bring changes. Normally it happens to Muslims but it never happen to non-Muslims only a very small percentage of them realize their purpose in life.
always blame the jes, only 14 millions in the world, yet you have 1,5 billion stupid retarded cult members
what can you do?? nothing even with that parasite allah, you guys are a total wimp, twattle bonkass useless moronic retards
allah doesnt even know about galaxies, he doesnt even know there are 180 moons in our solar system. he keeps ranting the moon again and again. its the only one he can see. he doesnt have telescope to see the others
But the Jews hates the Christians that is why the killed Jesus and they know it was not Jesus but an idiot who died on the cross. Check you book.
I just went through the comments you made on this thread and I have decided to consider you as a retard and ignorant that you cannot even talk about Islam with a knowledge that you have. So I completely ignore you.
So you don't have a book but still you want to debate? I have heard these things before and I am not concern because it is not what you believe. You know you are just following the herd mentality. I feel sorry for you because you are going to be burned forever in the hell. I ignore you but I want others to read the reply. You are just an animal that lives on the planet, and tell me, why do I care if you are not interested?
no i dont have the book, but i have copies of the quran, and its full of grabage. 50% is about disbelievers and HOW MUCH ALLAH HATES THEM. quran and islam is a hate propaganda against those who reject your fucking pig allah
it is you with the herd mentality and deluded brainless yobos bonkass
As for the unbelievers their deeds are like a mirage in a sandy desert, which the man parched with thirst mistakes for water, until when he comes up to it, he finds it to be nothing: but he finds Allah (ever)with him, and Allah will pay him back in full: and Allah is swift in reckoning ( Sura un-Nur, 39).
Jews have been in fact cursed and they are scattered around the world and these are not the Jews but the Zionist who hijacked Judaism and they will be defeated too as the Crusaders were defeated. The Zionists are still there because they are supported by the Western world.
Well, the first part is just another useless piece of Shit, I could even find a single verse to mach the verses in the Qur'an and I challenge anyone to prove that I am wrong and also I have posted a couple of verses from the Qur'an to prove the verse in that video was total BS. NO wonder why you have not presented the verses from the Qur'an in this video. I think you are just wasting you time by your asinine argument in this video as well.
PLANET 8888 u dont even no wat ur sayin quran does not say the sun orbits the earth and that the moon is higher than the stars, go read the quran properly u ignorant fool. and muhammad pbuh was not killed by the jews haaha u dont even no wat ur sayin and wat do mean by why did allah create jews? be4 jews worshipped allah and christians did but over the years the bible and the torah got corrupted, there were four main books sent down by allah and the quran was the final 1 and has neva been change
HADEEL: I've heard the story before. The problem is that it is still just an argument from ignorance, which is a logical fallacy.
You're effectively saying "I don't understand how this happens, so God must have done it". I refer you to my video "Invalid Arguments", for an explanation of why this isn't a valid argument for the existence of a deity.
@CapnOrdinary rather... "I do understand the ways by which nature and random events occur, therefore, earth and that which is in it, or should I say, the universe, does not follow a random pattern of existence. This takes me to believe that there is a higher power, or intelligence, that ordained all which is." This process, although logical to me, needs faith to be sustained. But before you go for my jugular, I believe opposed arguments ALSO need faith in the unseen to be supported.
@CapnOrdinary "You're effectively saying "I don't understand how this happens, so God must have done it""
How is it different from evolutionists stating that "I dont understand how life begun but it probably created itself and became more complex over time"
You are both arguing from ignorance. (Or could I be mistaken and scientists cracked the riddle of the origin of life and all matter and I some how missed it)
Because if we were to appeal to a supernatural cause each time we don't understand a phenomenon, science will come to a halt, since supernatural hypothesis are by definition untestable; and even our experiments couldn't be reliable because there could have been some supernatural disturbances, in short we couldn't predict anything.
@silveren777 Baloney. I wish you evolutionists would stop calling up that bogus boogey man. Evolution theory is theoretical. So is big bang theory. They are absolutely no use to mankind whatsoever. Science is not dependent on ones believes. A doctor need not know what organisml was man's ancestor in order to treat a broken arm or study about synthetic organs. That is bogus logic naturalists use to scare dumb people into thinking that our world is dependent on silly theoretical sciences.
@silveren777 Further more evolution theory is not a required course in medical school, engineering or practically every single one of the applied sciences in any college in the USA. It is really dumb of you to make the bogus allegation that science will come to a halt because engineers dont believe in evolution theory, or architects dont waste their time learning about how the bee evolved. Several of them actually study nature HOW IT IS TODAY, and borrow from it, but never its alleged past.
And it's dumb you distort what i said. I state that if you put a supernatural Hand in science that act by definition in unpredictable ways, science lose its predictive nature because it would be possible supernatural could aslo affect our experiments making us concluding false theory.
@silveren777 Again you lie, evolution theory is still largely unknown, untestable and unfalsifiable. There isnt even natural law theory of evolution adheres to. Rather it proposes several hypothesis that have never been seen, violate laws of physics and cant be tested much like every other religion. No one has seen random chemicals evolve into life, no one has seen any organism produce anything different from its own kind. And yet you believe in that unproven, untested "science"
Lie? I advise you to avoid making such hasty judgments.
There is a website that answer your claim that evolution violates the laws of physics:
talkorigins(dot)org/indexcc/list(dot)html#CF000
'no one has seen any organism produce anything different from its own kind'
That has been seen: metro mosquitos and lizard de Pod Mrcaru; If such changes are accumulated over long periods, it's sensible to conclude you get very difference spiecies.
The point is that we cannot explain life appearance by God just because we haven't found a working natural mechanism for it.
You're again making that non-sequitur: our ignorance about abiogenesis doesn't invalidate the theory of evolution because they are both distinct theories, each of them explaining a different phenomena.
@silveren777 The attempt to separate evolution theory from abiogenesis simply does not work! Evolutionists seek to separate the origin of life from the evolution of life because the know damn well they have no idea how life began and dont want to explain it. This is not a debate simply about evolution but about life as a whole.
Separate or not, scientists have no proof about how life began. They are just as ignorant about it as the religious are about their gods.
You really love non-sequitur! Evolution is about the diversity of living spieces all over the Earth, abiogenesis is about how "life were created from non-life" (in layman term). It's crystal clear, denying this distinction is illusory.
@silveren777 No one is denying the distinction. In fact my point is very clear. That naturalists will do their level best to separate the two and argue these very same silly distinctions because they want to avoid addressing the question they know have no answer for. Ie the origin of life.
Evolution theory is one that starts in a vacuum and one has every right to dismiss it as nonsensical naturalist religion.
'No one has seen random chemicals evolve into life'
That's about abiogenesis, not evolution.Your argument in itself is very naive: Earth's condition were pretty different than today, and that's a complex subject.
Maybe one day, we'll understand it; contrary to god which is by definition supernatural, so impossible to check by scientific study forever.
So, saying "Goddidit!" when faced to something difficult to understand is still fallacious.
@silveren777 "hat's about abiogenesis, not evolution.Your argument in itself is very naive: Earth's condition were pretty different than today, and that's a complex subject."
So what is your argument exactly? That you believe in an evolution theory whose claim to fame is the fact that it begins in a vacuum of ignorance? Where by you claim that even if you dont know how the heck life started you are still following scientific principle by making bogus assumptions about the rest of life?
@silveren777 This is not how you debate. If you think the website has evidence of evolution, give some examples and then mention the website. Dont waste my time or yours posting links and telling me "go here for proof of evolution" what makes you think I havent already seen the arguments on that website and dismissed them and looney?
there was a debate once between a man who beleived in one God and a man who didn't.. the one who beleived didn't come on time, so he was asked about the reason and he answered " There was a river on my way and i was waiting to see someone with a boat to pick me up.. waited and waited but no one appeared.. suddenly trees became wooden panels and a nails appeared from no where started to make a boat by its own and that boat helped me to cross the river"
tHE ISRAELS ARE NASTY FELLOWS. AND THEY WROTE A FABRICATED BOOK AND TELLING LIE THAT IT IS GOD'S BOOK
DT 21:10-14 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites are allowed to kidnap "beautiful women" from the enemy camp to be their trial wives. If, after having sexual relations, a man has "no delight" in his wife, he can simply let her go.
They were feed up by nasty foods that is why They use nasty words.
EZ 4:12 (KJV) "And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with DUNG THAT COMETH OUT OF MAN, in their sight. And the Lord said, Even thus shall THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL EAT their defiled bread ...."
Are you nuts, Jews are here after 3000 years and still they can't live in peace. How can they claimed to be the chosen people of God. As a gentile just use your brain.
You also need to keep in mind that Christians are not the only "Bible followers". Jews are too, and what ever they did counts for and against the Bible.
So while the pedophilic mentioned verses don't exactly specify the 3 years old minimum age limit, but they most certainly don't condemn it, and according to the Talmud's detailed elaborations on the verses, as shown below, and what actually took place during their events, the verses actually allowed it, AS MOSES HIMSELF ALLOWED IT!
The pedophilic Biblical verses are Numbers 31:17-18 and Numbers 31:35-40. Below, you will see DETAILED HISTORY on these SPECIFIC verses from the Jewish Talmud explaining the pedophilia that took place against the 3-year old slave girls under the direct command of Moses.
However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes.
It is certainly the Bible's principle and foundation to kill all humans and animals from the enemy's side. If one wouldn't call that terrorism, war crimes and mass-murdering, then what else should they call it?
Ironically, one of the Bible's 10 pillars or ten Commandments says: "Thou shalt not kill. (Exodus 20:13)." Yet, innocent children and non-virgin women were ordered to be killed by the mass, perhaps in thousands! 3-year old slave girls were also ordered to be raped by Moses.
Are you able to harm me If you write my name in a paper and use it as a toilet paper. Never.
These kind of action is called madness.
You should consult a psychiatrist.
You people are like animals. Like Dogs. They can't differentiate between stones and others. If you place a bunch of currency it'll piss on it. But it can't degrade the value of the currency.
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You make a good point, religion and its texts hold a lot of good science and history, great point!
truthseeker010101 1 month ago
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It was both, the heavens cam from a cloud and they were once joined together, thats science! Why is so hard for this guy to understand
truthseeker010101 1 month ago
Rather than reading the book itself he claims that Google is a great way to find research on religion which is a controversial subject that most websites are going to have biases and false leads to prove a points.
SuperKilla786 4 months ago
The verse (23:14) “then clothed the bone with flesh” does not necessarily pertain that bone came first but that flash covers the bone. The fact that they develop at the same time is true, the book is trying to explain one of the roles of flash has on the human body is that it covers bones. That verse is open for interpretation but obviously the narrator has a bias towards the topic so he’s going to interpreted in a way to challenge the intelligence of the Quran….
SuperKilla786 4 months ago
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@Mojoaglo give me one verse in the quran that says the earth is orbiting the sun. Just one.
so, you don't wanna see all the mistakes, but you wanna see more mistakes? can you really see?
Nahla1122 5 months ago
the quran was written by ONE person, and has been burned and recollected from the people who CLAIMED they memorized it. so, what makes it irrefutable?
Nahla1122 5 months ago
cast aside your grudge and then perceive things in reality.
W W W .islamic-awareness(DOT)org/Quran/Science/scientists.html
yoursincerefriend 5 months ago
the main point is that the quran came from god. No one in arabia or at the time of prophet Muhammad PBUH knew or had any knowledge regarding the moon, earth orbiting the sun, earth having an ostrich egg-like shape, embryology, etc. This faggot doesnt understand these verses because he doesnt know arabic. you need to know arabic in order to understand the verses clearly.
Mojoaglo 6 months ago
@Mojoaglo
And strangely, classical exegetes didn't understand, from the Quran, the modern scientific concepts you mention.
Maybe you should stop confusing shoehorning with prediction/anticipation.
silveren777 6 months ago
@Mojoaglo give me one verse in the quran that says the earth is orbiting the sun. Just one.
mythcontrolpill 5 months ago
you are already enemy of muslims
Zohaib958 6 months ago
you all are stupid .you could not understand the verses of Quran.
Zohaib958 6 months ago
dear friend would you tell me from where muhammad (peace be upon him) gets information about greeks?
Zohaib958 6 months ago
to do, I will have to venture for my self, and find out what gives peace to my own mind, that is what I believe our concience is for..so if you are satisfied by refute that the Quran is wrong that is fine, but I just wanted to argue the some choose to see what they want to see, and that I don't think you or me an exception. Also I apologize for some Muslims here using vulgar language or arguing in a bizarre way, that is not Quran endorsed at all. Sorry for the long comments! Just had to say it.
nevashiva 7 months ago
in the Quran that these 'facts' were not mentioned before, nothing in the Quran denies science to be true unless it is a Muslim, I don't think it even denies heaven from non 'Muslims' and I quote cause muslims these days embrace the words as a form of magical text rather than a linguistic expression of something to be understood beyond words. I know my argument is not a logical one, I am not a doctor and if doctor's disagree what an embryo starts with just as people disagree what a gay guy ought
nevashiva 7 months ago
see?, I don't believe that the Quran is meant to be a science book, it is a purpose book, and it leaves a lot of moral options to you a lot of unanswered questions about life for you to find out the answer for, but it gives you a purpose to accept your existence (for me anyways), a guideline that you can follow, In the Quran God says a lot of what is said in the Quran is only an affirmation of what was said before in Christianity and Judaism..is that plagirism by Mohamed then, nothing says in
nevashiva 7 months ago
a person would choose to sleep with someone, and to me all the reasons that led to a man doing it, were all unromantic and deeply emotionaly disturbed and unbalanced, is that what I wanted to find out??...maybe, but trust me I wanted to turn out wrong, I wanted to feel God ok with being gay like some have chose for them selves. SO! embryos, and the moon, and etc...Capn, regardless of the Quran do you want to believe that God did leave a message for the earth or not? what is it that you want to
nevashiva 7 months ago
Shit I am sorry! Too long of a post eh, I guess what I can cut to is, I after realisticly dealing with gay men, and seeing what most of us are..emotionaly damaged guys, that have a deeply distorted version of malehood, and also discovering that there is alot of 'straight' men, who turn to the gay life style after getting sick about how women are hard to please and get pleased by, and bisexual men, I started to realise..thats why God did not mention gay as gay, cause that is not the only reason
nevashiva 7 months ago
obvious figure, but as I was saying is that people choosing to see what they want to see, this argument can be used not just on Muslims on anything human, how can we then stop that?? what do you suggest, I personally what I did, is that I chose to realistically see, my biggest issue with religion which is not embryo development honestly, there is a lot of admirable profound human values in religions, and would like to attain them, but my problem was the 'gay thing' I ahd to understand why does
nevashiva 7 months ago
feel authenticated..or something, however the Quran, or most Holy books, do not actualy justify these particular settings, you'll find then either Hadith, or what St.Paul, and what St.John claimed that starts to morph the religion into something deeply complicated and particular..and quiet frustrating to tell the truth, what does this all have to do with Embryo's?? which by the way, I don't think your links show that musles show up first, it shows the vertebrate alone being the most prominent
nevashiva 7 months ago
and to my amazement, how BASIC these morals were, they were all more or less the same, I was sort of shocked yet again comforted...that all this dispute about which religion is realy right, there morals are more less the same, yes some peculiar habits was in every religion, and those peculiar habits would be the most revered or else that religion wouldn't be THAT unique, and having to be secluded for being gay, I noticed people tend to like to assimilate habits/rituals/traditions, so that they
nevashiva 7 months ago
or even...explained it, but still..I started to feel enraged that God or Religions put me in an easily judged position, but still I had all these strong innate feelings, that I felt I had no choice in, what am I supposed to do with these, for even athiest people do not like gays unless they want to use us as a proof of there case, so I was puzzled...but other than being gay I had to dig through the morality system of most of the other religions while hacking to find what it says about gays
nevashiva 7 months ago
would make me feel ok with who I am, as someone attracted to his own kind, it would explain why am I like this, I wasn't exactly looking for a religion to tell me its ok to have sex (Although that would be lovely), but I wanted a holy book that will tell me no I am not making this feeling up (as I thought the Quran seemed to before), anyways I searched and searched, and alas shockingly, but somehow comforting, ALL religions do not find gay is ok, at the least either its disliked, none embracd it
nevashiva 7 months ago
Too beutifull and enchanting, to believe that there is no creator, yes not a logical approach in the sense, but it made 'Sense' which does not always include logic alone it includes heart as well..to me anyways, anyways carrying on, I was like well I was born a muslim, maybe I am born in the wrong place and into the wrong religion, after all not everyone was born into 'islam', maybe the true 'God' 'religion' is out there, maybe that is my quest, to find which God is right and follow that, and it
nevashiva 7 months ago
Hi I am a muslim, gay guy...the reason I say both is that I just want to say I understand what it means to be a 'muslim', and someone who is torn by 'logic' or feeling 'well then why does the *insert God's text of choice* here say this. I was baffled or betrayed or whatever word you'd like to describe how you feel that makes you an agnostic/athiest whatever, I tried to seek other religions as an escape, for I honestly did embrace the idea of God, I am some who loves arts, and thus I found nature
nevashiva 7 months ago
brother u just talk about sperm no egg hummmm "its "seed" not sperm ok so how seed take place so study seed germination " ha i which world u ar study ayatul kursi and its meaning then may be u will came to come point
Numeyo 7 months ago
ACCORDING TO MUSLIMS THE QURAN TALKS ABOUT THE THERORY OF THE BIG BANG IN 21:30 WHERE IT SAYS THAT "THE HEAVEN AND THE EARTH FORMED A COMPACT MASS THAT WE SEPARATED" BUT WAIT A MINUTE, ACCORDING TO SCIENTIST THE EARTH EXISTED MILLIONS OF YEARS AFTER THE BIG BANG. IT COULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE DURING THE BIG BANG, AND BESIDES THE QURAN SAYS IN 41:10-12 THE OPPOSITE, THAT GOD CREATED THE EARTH FIRST AND THEN THE HEAVEN. SO IT IS IMPOSSIBLE
DictaduraNo123 9 months ago
I've never claim i have PROOF of abiogenesis,
But why isn't it reasonable to think it'll be explained by naturalistic causes?
You incorrectly think supernatural and natural cause have the same likelyness:
we've experienced matter, whereas we haven't and can't 'see' God and even can't define Him in precise way.
Parcimony invite us to discard hypothesises invoking additionnal entities if they are not necessary.
silveren777 11 months ago
@silveren777 If evolution or abiogenesis had theorized "Adam and Eve" bogus and later found to be false, they gracefully accept defeat. Will the religions have the same level of humility to acknowledge DEFEAT???
rationalindian10 11 months ago
@rationalindian10
Depends on what you mean by religion, because there are many different thinkings in just ONE religion.
If indeed science invalidated completely the myth of Adam&Eve as told in scriptures, then some religious people would consider this myth as a metaphor,
other would deny what science showed and would make up their own pseudoscientific theories
silveren777 11 months ago
@silveren777 Lemme know your thoughts on this:
1. Was the universe created in 6 days??
2. What about the claims of 4000 other odd religions which dont believe in Adam and Eve bogus?? (and trust me, "GOD" spoke to them too but never mentioned Adam and Eve and many religions have more than one Gods too!!!!)
3. If i come up with a vague theory of God being defined as "a HUMAN with wings and 4 dicks", will you believe "MY" GOD or not?? And should I pray to Him UNTIL you disprove it??
rationalindian10 11 months ago
@rationalindian10
1. Of course, not! However some interpreted the 6 days as great periods.
2. believers woul told you that although God indeed revealed himself to those "pagan" religions by sending them a messenger, those folks finally corrupted God's words and modified the religion according to their own desires. This is consistent in itself, but baseless compared to history.
3. No, it'b be "worthy of worship" if there were evidence for its existence
silveren777 11 months ago
@silveren777 Those pagans call you NON-pagan!!!! Whats your thoughts on that?? Do you think there is any GOD who thinks his own creations are FUCKED UP like shit???
rationalindian10 11 months ago
@silveren777 Gimme only one reply: Can I be a muslim and get those dark eyed virgins if I believ only in Allah and NOT Muhammad??
rationalindian10 11 months ago
@rationalindian10
i'm not a muslim but anyone well-versed in islam will tell you that main condition to enter the islamic paradise (and see the Houris) is to believe in God AND that Muhammad is his messenger.
silveren777 11 months ago
@silveren777 And anyone well versed in Islam will also tell you to smash the skulls of IDOL WORSHIPPERS liw Jews and Christians, Munafiqs and 10 varities of Kuffars!!!!!
rationalindian10 11 months ago
Correcting my previous comment:
and it's dumb you distort what i said. I stated if you allow for a supernatural Hand (that acts, by definition, in unpredictable ways) in science, the latter would loose its predictive power, because our experience couldn't be reliable, indeed nothing would prevent this Hand from tricking it.
silveren777 11 months ago
@silveren777 every scientific description of the beginning of the universe allows for the supernatural. Every "scientific" theory on the beginning of life calls on the supernatural that has never been seen, tested or even proven. (by default meta physical). Has any scientist proven that life can come from none life? have you seen it happen? If it is unscientific to believe in such, why do you think you are any different from the religious. You both believe in what is unseen, untested unproven?
karamarouge 11 months ago
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@karamarouge
'every scientific description of the beginning of the universe allows for the supernatural'
Yes, but in this view, supernatural is on a fundamental level, everything is already determined, so God hasn't to intervene to create things AFTER the establishement of natural laws and is less harmful to science, contrary to what we discussed.
silveren777 11 months ago
@karamarouge
That relies on a dubious definition of 'metaphyisical'; a metaphysical object is by definition beyond physics, beyond matter and sometimes explains the latters.
Something supernatural is on the realm of metaphysics and is untestABLE and unprovABLE empirically.
However a unknown natural causes, by defintion, can be tested and proven DEPENDING ON OUR KNOWLEDGE, indeed you forget Science progresses with time.
silveren777 11 months ago
@silveren777 Yes and an until science explains that which we dont know, stop claiming to have proof, matter of fact dont even claim that it will be ultimately explained. One can make the very same argument for any god they believe in or any supernatural oddity one may find.
karamarouge 11 months ago
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silveren777 11 months ago
@karamarouge
thus there is nothing unscientific in believing in a naturalistic origin of life, not to mention Godddit is not parcimonious in this case.
silveren777 11 months ago
@silveren777 That is your myopic point of view (or should we call it the right word, your natuarlist religion, devoid of reason and hell bent on twisting science so that it fits your personal beliefs.
It is really amazing that practically all the arguments you make, are the very same ones the religious nuts the world over make. But for some reason you think I shall ignore this and simply believe your rather weak arguments.
karamarouge 11 months ago
@karamarouge
No, there is no naturalistic religion, or any of your fantaisies around here, i'm afraid.
Twisting science? I hope you're kidding!
That's your argument that's BS, since you imply that, for a unknown phenomena in the Universe, God's direct intervention (supernatural) and a natural cause are equally likely.
We have reasons to believe there are natural causes for a unknown phenomena but not a single for a supernatural hand (which is dangerous for science predictive power).
silveren777 11 months ago
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silveren777 11 months ago
@karamarouge
No, my argument have nothing to do with religious ones, maybe you didn't read them well...
But what's the point in proposing a hypothesis that's unfalsifiable forever, complicated, and unparcimonious?
That doesn't help science advancement, hence it's pretty ironical to claim i'm twisting science.
As Laplace said: 'Sir, I have no need of that hypothesis!'
Next time, maybe you should avoid comparing apples and oranges...
silveren777 11 months ago
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silveren777 11 months ago
all muslims are better christians that christians it clearly says in the bible that dont eat pork and lots of other things that christians dont do and muslims do
96adamali 11 months ago
yeah you got the embryology right sitting on your computer and making youtube videos while doctor moore got it wrong devoting his life to Embryology ... he say
"It has been a great pleasure for me to help clarify statements in the Qur'an about human development. It is clear to me that these statements must have come to Muhammad from God, or Allah, because most of this knowledge was not discovered until many centuries later. This proves to me that Muhammad must have been a messenger of God"
arbkhan 1 year ago
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The Qur'an EMBRACED knowledge and science in a time where people rejected it, dont forget that.
DrPhonix 1 year ago
Islam EMBRACED knowledge and science at a time where people rejected it.
Did the other religions did ?
DrPhonix 1 year ago
@DrPhonix "Islam EMBRACED knowledge and science at a time where people rejected it."
Looks like Muslims fell of the wagon and sank into the dark ages centuries ago. Oh well.
watch?v=7jP6DoyYl0w
OptimisticCynic715 1 year ago
Your links seem to be a little bit out of time.
Brulluhman 1 year ago
dear CapnOrdinary...you failed man..The old greek also didnt know much about embryo..the old greek juz simply an old poet and artis and lack of science knowledge..try to study..is it the old greek studying/ discovering biology?? nah you just make a bullshit out of yourself CapnShitty..
CrazyBabun 1 year ago
why did you do the quran the honor of acknowledging that it even mentioned the moon as reflecting light, when many translations make it clear that the moon is indeed referenced as a source of light, and that the same word is used to refer to Allah himself, as the "light of the heavens and the earth". Or do these intellectually dishonest miracle fabricators want to claim that Allah's light is borrowed/reflected? great vid, btw
ojal90 1 year ago
lool.
cant you answer the question of karamarouge.
hahha ur video is on big lie.
NiyaziVideos 1 year ago
Just a bunch of outdated knowledge, and they say their is science in the quran. Please, is there a verse in the quran about insulting people's intelligence.
slicingwater 1 year ago 2
SCIENTIFICAL PROOFS OF THE QURAN PT1
-Scientists Have discovered 7 layers in the sky outside of earth, the Troposphere, stratosphere, ozone, Mesosphere, Thermosphere, Ionosphere, and exosphere.
"Quran 2:29 It is he who has created all things for you on earth, in addition, his plans called for heavens, and he gave order and perfection to the 7 skys: and of all things, he is all knowing. "
usamuslimgirl 1 year ago
@usamuslimgirl thank you for this comment i hope they will see that the quran indeed has science in it.
NiyaziVideos 1 year ago
@usamuslimgirl "SCIENTIFICAL PROOFS OF THE QURAN PT1-Scientists Have discovered 7 layers in the sky outside of earth, the Troposphere, stratosphere, ozone, Mesosphere, Thermosphere, Ionosphere, and exosphere."
Sooo, are you suggesting that the stars are in the troposphere? Maybe 12 miles from the Earth's surface? Scientists would be surprised to learn this, I'm sure.
Quran 41:12, 67:3,5 "So He ordained them seven heavens...and We adorned the lower heaven with brilliant stars"
OptimisticCynic715 1 year ago
There must have been a lot of opium going about when they wrote this Quran book...
2camjohn 1 year ago 10
@2camjohn why?
n45h04 1 year ago
Regarding the Earth's shape, the newest interpretation is "Ostrich-egg shaped". I shit you not. Unfortunately, I can't read arabic so I just have to rely on the many translations put forward.
IstickThingsUpMyBum 1 year ago
Here's one argument against the religion "of peace". What's the penalty for apostasy in Islamic states?
iffyandgally 1 year ago
I am an agnostic and i do feel i have to call bullshit on your embryology. Now i dont know which people you are talking about, but you make a rather huge leap or silly assumption that whoever created man did it via the regular means that you claim in this video (ie, the womb or testube or some other mechanism that would require development as you posted. YOu are making rather huge assumption. And the worst part yet is that you stupidly mention the absence of the female...ARE YOU SERIOUS?
karamarouge 1 year ago
@karamarouge Surely even the dumbest of atheists should be aware that at one point in life there had to be a single lone ancestor of life. So how can you make such a stupid statement regarding the creation of the first man on earth?
Seriously, how stupid is that?
Also, (and this is a genuince question) Are you an expert in embryology? Where did you read that the skin is formed before the skeleton. Please enlighten me so i can find this source and become better informed.
karamarouge 1 year ago
@karamarouge "And the worst part yet is that you stupidly mention the absence of the female...at one point in life there had to be a single lone ancestor of life....such a stupid statement regarding the creation of the first man on earth?"
Still trying to decipher your question.
Are you suggesting that the reproduction of early asexual microorganisms like viruses or bacteria involved sperm and the formation of bones? Or that it's possible that humans reproduced asexually in earlier times?
OptimisticCynic715 1 year ago
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What a stupid and ignorant person you are.
redpits 1 year ago
"The best of creators" kinda suggests that someone thought there were other creators, doesn't it?
ketsan 1 year ago
stupid
DEBAATU 1 year ago
man your full of shit your self mate. you can stick those greek fags up your ass you cunt
nevawinter 1 year ago
in another surah Allah mentions that the Earth is like a marble
NocriZle 1 year ago
this is hilarious .. how could an illiterate man lviing in the desert of Arabia amongst ignorant people could have accessed such information??
ansar90 1 year ago
@ansar90 well ansar... although the unbeliever is quick to discredit our faith... we should know that they also have their own faith. In it, they believe Muhammad (pbuh) had lengthy conversations with greek scholars and philosophers regarding these matters. He discussed in depth Pytagoras, Aristotle, and the sorts. They have the right to believe these things as we have the right to believe otherwise. Let the kuffar be kuffar, there is no compulsion in religion. Assalamu aleykum.
Pricandoc 1 year ago
@ansar90 "how could an illiterate man lviing in the desert of Arabia amongst ignorant people could have accessed such information??"
Did you watch all of it? @6:05
OptimisticCynic715 1 year ago
@Planet8888
So who is the creator? Jesus or you dad? So in your opinion what do you expect the Creator to be like. The Christians want God to die for their sins, the Jews wanted him to be their personal and private God who will always bail them out whenever they behave like criminals and the Hindus want him to be in every creature they worship. So what you want him to be? So in your opinion God should be what you want him to be.
AdorIslam 1 year ago
AdorIslam
so who l;ived in the moon and stars??
can't you see that pedophile mohamed was a liar and a stupid imbecile??
people living on the moon??? star???
sun???. LOL dumb stupid retards
hydromett 1 year ago
You don't think the creator described in the bible is any more credible than allah, do you?
rddaos 1 year ago
rddaos
hello pighead, do you know your religion well?? your stupid allah is the one who produce the torah, the bible and the quran. looks like allah is pretty stupid after 3 books, he still can't get it right.
and whatever that is inaccurate or altered in the bible only show how incompetent and ignorant your stupid allah is.
just goes to prrof that allah is nothing but a fart from pedophile mohamed's ass
hydromett 1 year ago
hydromett,
I'm a proud atheist, who just got done having a gay orgy with jeebus, mohammit, and your uncle Herb.
rddaos 1 year ago
Planet8888
People like you are just a waste of time on the planet and I am not interested in wasting my time on idiots like you because just post whatever you heard or think based on others testimony. Let me tell you. In the sight of God the lief that you live here is just a couple of hours because 1000 years is a day. So you can say whatever you say or do but your days will take you to grave soon and where you will know who Allah is and what is your position will be.
AdorIslam 1 year ago
AdorIslam
allah do not exist. allah is mohamed's ego. they died in 632 AD
dont waste your time
AreebaAmigo 1 year ago
AdorIslam
allah is mohamed
he died in 632 AD
now allah lives in the brains of stupid muslims
Hehehe LOL suckers!!
hydromett 1 year ago
@hydromett
When Allah create human being he knew that they would be the biggest enemy that oppose him but he would let them live a comfortable lives here and then catch them, when they are taking a nap. It is in the Qur'an that you would be ungrateful and the angels said when God revealed that he wanted to create human being to worship him but God had other planes. Problem is you don't have copy of a Qur'an to go through it and you pick from enemies of Islam.
AdorIslam 1 year ago
AdorIslam
allah is the sex pimp offering sex for stupid deluded muslims
mohamed the pedophile bastard steal, raped and fucked children
what a combination of sex perverted bastard mohamed and evil fucking allah
hydromett 1 year ago
hydromett
Mother fucker like you should not come to debate here because you are an imbecile.
AdorIslam 1 year ago
AdorIslam
i think you are the imbecile to believe and follow the life of a pedophile, killer, rapist and thief. why? is there no better person??
you are totally deranged and fucked in the brain
hydromett 1 year ago
AdorIslam
the biggest enemy of mankind is the evil stupid islam, doctrine of satan
hydromett 1 year ago
AdorIslam
retarded mohamed think there are people in the moon and sun
Hahahahahahahaha stupid fool
muhammad claimed in sura 22:18
that everything bows to allah, that lives in heavens, earth, sun, moon and stars.
but muhammad did not know at that time that nothing lives on moon and nothing can survive on sun or stars
this proves that koran is the word of muhammad, not god's
hydromett 1 year ago
CapnOrdinary
so you dont allow those who speak the truth and is against the wrong teachings of islam. rather you prefer to listen to what you want, not what you can't accpet as the truth really hurts you.
so you prefer to live in a pool of lies, deceiving yourself and the public
thats what cults is about. it is islamic cult
AreebaAmigo 1 year ago
I am perfectly willing to listen to reasoned arguments against Islam.
What I am not willing to listen to is little children turning my channel into a schoolyard.
CapnOrdinary 1 year ago 10
Enough. This is not a platform for you to spread hatred against an entire population group. Please explain how what you're doing is any better than what you accuse them of. Or rather, you can't, because I just blocked you. Buh-bye now.
CapnOrdinary 1 year ago
Planet8888
Looks like you are an Atheist and want everyone to follow your life and we don't give a dime what the fuck you say we have our own way of life and we will decide what is necessary for our children. We just don't need an Atheist or a Secularist to tell us what we should do. If you want to let your girls fornicate and screw and become prostitutes until they are 18 then I feel sorry for sorry ass like you. Do you really believe in a open society like your s they don't get screwed?
AdorIslam 1 year ago
Planet8888
we have heard it over and over again but there is nothing you can do we will prevail over your nukes and WMD. There is no fuck you can do, we will live the 7th century life compared to you homosexual ass licking life. Just fuck off.
AdorIslam 1 year ago
AdorIslam
muslims are so so so so stupid
unbelievable
hydromett 1 year ago
Planet8888
If Allah wants to destroy a people , it is very simple, he would only send a plague and everyone will be finished. Allah has destroyed many nations but the Jews will be their until their appointed time. This is how Allah makes thing easy for people to understand. Allah has his own way of testing people if they are fit to be in paradise, he just give them more time to turn towards him. And the more they do wrong it is easier to collect them into the hell fire. So don't be arrogant.
AdorIslam 1 year ago
AdorIslam
allah cannot destroy people by any means. he can only urge the stupid muslims to kill for him
allah is a twat useless powerless parasite that lives in your thick skull making you stupid
muhamadick 1 year ago
muhamadick
On and off he does you asshole, the earth quakes, tsunami, floods, tornadoes, diseases and so many other things but you idiot attribute it to nature. Allah does not accept challenges of cockroaches because he has already informed the Kuffars that he let them have a comfortable live here just for an appointed time because a day is in the sight of God is 1000 years and you are here only for a couple of hours. Don't talk like a retard use your dead brain.
AdorIslam 1 year ago
muhamadick 1 year ago
@AdorIslam Both of you sound like idiots...Planet888 because he's obviously very nearly illiterate, hydromett, because he just simply reverts to the name calling high school bullying he's probably been using his whole life and You Adorislam, because you make claims about a holy book that is so immoral that it should be sold as toilet paper, not the unalterable perfect word of god...
If any muslim wants to challenge me to a debate, I'M DOWN...
I am not unreasonable, and I back my answers up...
badtrunk456 1 year ago
badtrunk456
you sound like a motherfucker with no brains. why dont you grow one and use it
AreebaAmigo 1 year ago
badtrunk456
It looks like another ignorant person who knows nothing about Islam wants to debate. BTW what you know about Islam. If you want to argue with me I am sure that you will end up in the toilet by cleaning up the shit an piss there. Anyway you are welcome to debate provided always bring froof and references with you.
AdorIslam 1 year ago
@badtrunk456
I don't think that you can even debate the basics of Islam. You are just another asshole like everybody else. If you think you can debate Islam come with proof and references. Or just fuck off.
AdorIslam 1 year ago
Planet8888
Planet, you are either a Zionist Jew or a pagan, they are the ones hate believers especially Islam. In fact we are born Muslims but the fact is that we never practice Islam in the beginning, we live like you, as animals but over the years, when we grow up we become conscious of our purpose in life and we start to read that bring changes. Normally it happens to Muslims but it never happen to non-Muslims only a very small percentage of them realize their purpose in life.
AdorIslam 1 year ago
AdorIslam
always blame the jes, only 14 millions in the world, yet you have 1,5 billion stupid retarded cult members
what can you do?? nothing even with that parasite allah, you guys are a total wimp, twattle bonkass useless moronic retards
allah doesnt even know about galaxies, he doesnt even know there are 180 moons in our solar system. he keeps ranting the moon again and again. its the only one he can see. he doesnt have telescope to see the others
kafir hasnt invented it yet
muhamadick 1 year ago
plane8888
But the Jews hates the Christians that is why the killed Jesus and they know it was not Jesus but an idiot who died on the cross. Check you book.
I just went through the comments you made on this thread and I have decided to consider you as a retard and ignorant that you cannot even talk about Islam with a knowledge that you have. So I completely ignore you.
AdorIslam 1 year ago
AdorIslam
sorry, i dont have the "book". no religious book impress me. worst of all the filthy quranic shit and that bastard islamic allah.
you are the ignorant retard, believing in a pedophile criminal thief who fucked children, slaves, maids and even daughter in law
now who is the biggest retard??
you wouldnt have replied if you had ignored me sucker, you just did!!
i wouldnt have made a comment on islam if i know nothing of it, i have 2 quran with me, read it and is disgusting
muhamadick 1 year ago
muhamadick
So you don't have a book but still you want to debate? I have heard these things before and I am not concern because it is not what you believe. You know you are just following the herd mentality. I feel sorry for you because you are going to be burned forever in the hell. I ignore you but I want others to read the reply. You are just an animal that lives on the planet, and tell me, why do I care if you are not interested?
AdorIslam 1 year ago
AdorIslam
no i dont have the book, but i have copies of the quran, and its full of grabage. 50% is about disbelievers and HOW MUCH ALLAH HATES THEM. quran and islam is a hate propaganda against those who reject your fucking pig allah
it is you with the herd mentality and deluded brainless yobos bonkass
muhamadick 1 year ago
muhamadick
Yes ha hates you too.
As for the unbelievers their deeds are like a mirage in a sandy desert, which the man parched with thirst mistakes for water, until when he comes up to it, he finds it to be nothing: but he finds Allah (ever)with him, and Allah will pay him back in full: and Allah is swift in reckoning ( Sura un-Nur, 39).
AdorIslam 1 year ago
AdorIslam
but allah is in your head only!!!!
hehe, sorry its true
muhamadick 1 year ago
AdorIslam
allah doesnt know about germs
stupid fool
muhamadick 1 year ago
AdorIslam
allah doesnt know about other moons, some bigger than out moon
cos allah doesnt have a telescope
silly fool
muhamadick 1 year ago
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@muhamadick
allah doesnt know about other moons, some bigger than out moon
cos allah doesnt have a telescope
Where did you get this? But he certainly knows where your artery is.
AdorIslam 1 year ago
@Planet8888
Jews have been in fact cursed and they are scattered around the world and these are not the Jews but the Zionist who hijacked Judaism and they will be defeated too as the Crusaders were defeated. The Zionists are still there because they are supported by the Western world.
AdorIslam 2 years ago
Well, the first part is just another useless piece of Shit, I could even find a single verse to mach the verses in the Qur'an and I challenge anyone to prove that I am wrong and also I have posted a couple of verses from the Qur'an to prove the verse in that video was total BS. NO wonder why you have not presented the verses from the Qur'an in this video. I think you are just wasting you time by your asinine argument in this video as well.
AdorIslam 2 years ago
PLANET 8888 u dont even no wat ur sayin quran does not say the sun orbits the earth and that the moon is higher than the stars, go read the quran properly u ignorant fool. and muhammad pbuh was not killed by the jews haaha u dont even no wat ur sayin and wat do mean by why did allah create jews? be4 jews worshipped allah and christians did but over the years the bible and the torah got corrupted, there were four main books sent down by allah and the quran was the final 1 and has neva been change
Pak4lyf96 2 years ago
Of course you will say NONSENSE!
but he replied " You can accept that a whole universe with all its creatures can appeare byitself but you can't accept a boat!!!
this was a true debate between Abu Hanifah and an athiest
HADEEL1889 2 years ago
HADEEL: I've heard the story before. The problem is that it is still just an argument from ignorance, which is a logical fallacy.
You're effectively saying "I don't understand how this happens, so God must have done it". I refer you to my video "Invalid Arguments", for an explanation of why this isn't a valid argument for the existence of a deity.
CapnOrdinary 2 years ago 2
@CapnOrdinary rather... "I do understand the ways by which nature and random events occur, therefore, earth and that which is in it, or should I say, the universe, does not follow a random pattern of existence. This takes me to believe that there is a higher power, or intelligence, that ordained all which is." This process, although logical to me, needs faith to be sustained. But before you go for my jugular, I believe opposed arguments ALSO need faith in the unseen to be supported.
Pricandoc 1 year ago
@CapnOrdinary "You're effectively saying "I don't understand how this happens, so God must have done it""
How is it different from evolutionists stating that "I dont understand how life begun but it probably created itself and became more complex over time"
You are both arguing from ignorance. (Or could I be mistaken and scientists cracked the riddle of the origin of life and all matter and I some how missed it)
karamarouge 1 year ago
@karamarouge
Because if we were to appeal to a supernatural cause each time we don't understand a phenomenon, science will come to a halt, since supernatural hypothesis are by definition untestable; and even our experiments couldn't be reliable because there could have been some supernatural disturbances, in short we couldn't predict anything.
silveren777 11 months ago
@silveren777 Baloney. I wish you evolutionists would stop calling up that bogus boogey man. Evolution theory is theoretical. So is big bang theory. They are absolutely no use to mankind whatsoever. Science is not dependent on ones believes. A doctor need not know what organisml was man's ancestor in order to treat a broken arm or study about synthetic organs. That is bogus logic naturalists use to scare dumb people into thinking that our world is dependent on silly theoretical sciences.
karamarouge 11 months ago
@karamarouge
Even they are theorical, they permit us to understand the world.
silveren777 11 months ago
@silveren777 Further more evolution theory is not a required course in medical school, engineering or practically every single one of the applied sciences in any college in the USA. It is really dumb of you to make the bogus allegation that science will come to a halt because engineers dont believe in evolution theory, or architects dont waste their time learning about how the bee evolved. Several of them actually study nature HOW IT IS TODAY, and borrow from it, but never its alleged past.
karamarouge 11 months ago
@karamarouge
And it's dumb you distort what i said. I state that if you put a supernatural Hand in science that act by definition in unpredictable ways, science lose its predictive nature because it would be possible supernatural could aslo affect our experiments making us concluding false theory.
silveren777 11 months ago
@karamarouge On Ockham's razor, postulating an unknown and additonnal process (God's hand) is less parcimonious than an existing one (natural laws).
what about history? the latter showed us that many of these God-of-the gap 'theory' was rather a proof of our ignorance.
So you can't compare apples and oranges...
silveren777 11 months ago
@silveren777 Again you lie, evolution theory is still largely unknown, untestable and unfalsifiable. There isnt even natural law theory of evolution adheres to. Rather it proposes several hypothesis that have never been seen, violate laws of physics and cant be tested much like every other religion. No one has seen random chemicals evolve into life, no one has seen any organism produce anything different from its own kind. And yet you believe in that unproven, untested "science"
karamarouge 11 months ago
@karamarouge
Lie? I advise you to avoid making such hasty judgments.
There is a website that answer your claim that evolution violates the laws of physics:
talkorigins(dot)org/indexcc/list(dot)html#CF000
'no one has seen any organism produce anything different from its own kind'
That has been seen: metro mosquitos and lizard de Pod Mrcaru; If such changes are accumulated over long periods, it's sensible to conclude you get very difference spiecies.
silveren777 11 months ago
@silveren777 Sir.. you English and grammar are so bad I can not make heads or tails of what the heck you are talking about.
karamarouge 11 months ago
@karamarouge
That's normal, since i'm not native! i'll correct my comments.
silveren777 11 months ago
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@karamarouge
That's normal, since i'm not a native english! i'll correct my comments.
silveren777 11 months ago
@karamarouge
The point is that we cannot explain life appearance by God just because we haven't found a working natural mechanism for it.
You're again making that non-sequitur: our ignorance about abiogenesis doesn't invalidate the theory of evolution because they are both distinct theories, each of them explaining a different phenomena.
silveren777 11 months ago
@silveren777 The attempt to separate evolution theory from abiogenesis simply does not work! Evolutionists seek to separate the origin of life from the evolution of life because the know damn well they have no idea how life began and dont want to explain it. This is not a debate simply about evolution but about life as a whole.
Separate or not, scientists have no proof about how life began. They are just as ignorant about it as the religious are about their gods.
karamarouge 11 months ago
@karamarouge
You really love non-sequitur! Evolution is about the diversity of living spieces all over the Earth, abiogenesis is about how "life were created from non-life" (in layman term). It's crystal clear, denying this distinction is illusory.
silveren777 11 months ago
@silveren777 No one is denying the distinction. In fact my point is very clear. That naturalists will do their level best to separate the two and argue these very same silly distinctions because they want to avoid addressing the question they know have no answer for. Ie the origin of life.
Evolution theory is one that starts in a vacuum and one has every right to dismiss it as nonsensical naturalist religion.
karamarouge 11 months ago
@karamarouge
But why is it silly to make such a distinction? Sure we've no answer to everything.
The origin of life is still a domain of research, that's how science works: attempting to explain the unknown...
silveren777 11 months ago
@karamarouge
'No one has seen random chemicals evolve into life'
That's about abiogenesis, not evolution.Your argument in itself is very naive: Earth's condition were pretty different than today, and that's a complex subject.
Maybe one day, we'll understand it; contrary to god which is by definition supernatural, so impossible to check by scientific study forever.
So, saying "Goddidit!" when faced to something difficult to understand is still fallacious.
silveren777 11 months ago
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@silveren777 "hat's about abiogenesis, not evolution.Your argument in itself is very naive: Earth's condition were pretty different than today, and that's a complex subject."
So what is your argument exactly? That you believe in an evolution theory whose claim to fame is the fact that it begins in a vacuum of ignorance? Where by you claim that even if you dont know how the heck life started you are still following scientific principle by making bogus assumptions about the rest of life?
karamarouge 11 months ago
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silveren777 11 months ago
@karamarouge
And again, evolution isn't based on the pillars of ignorance, since we have evidences of it,
please see the website i quoted.
silveren777 11 months ago
@silveren777 This is not how you debate. If you think the website has evidence of evolution, give some examples and then mention the website. Dont waste my time or yours posting links and telling me "go here for proof of evolution" what makes you think I havent already seen the arguments on that website and dismissed them and looney?
karamarouge 11 months ago
@karamarouge
For the evidence of evolution, i CLEARLY posted the example of spieces clearly, not to mention hominids.
As for the claim it's against natural law, i don't have enough place to bring the counter-arguments here.
silveren777 11 months ago
let's simplify the concept..
there was a debate once between a man who beleived in one God and a man who didn't.. the one who beleived didn't come on time, so he was asked about the reason and he answered " There was a river on my way and i was waiting to see someone with a boat to pick me up.. waited and waited but no one appeared.. suddenly trees became wooden panels and a nails appeared from no where started to make a boat by its own and that boat helped me to cross the river"
HADEEL1889 2 years ago
Look! If you want to discuss in a gentle way. Let us discuss.
I don't use bad words and I also don't want to hear bad words.
You are telling baseless things. Quran didn't tell that the sun is orbiting the earth or moon is bigger than stars.
Quran's cosmology is 100% matching with modern cosmological inventions.
faaarin 2 years ago
So you dont know how to express yourself calmly with logical sentences!
The way you are, if you are thinking holy jesus will help you?you are mistaking. Show some respect to people.
stssaa 2 years ago
JEWS ARE CANNIBALS
JG 19:29 ...........The man then cuts her body into twelve pieces and sends one piece to each of the twelve tribes of Israel.
faaarin 2 years ago
tHE ISRAELS ARE NASTY FELLOWS. AND THEY WROTE A FABRICATED BOOK AND TELLING LIE THAT IT IS GOD'S BOOK
DT 21:10-14 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites are allowed to kidnap "beautiful women" from the enemy camp to be their trial wives. If, after having sexual relations, a man has "no delight" in his wife, he can simply let her go.
faaarin 2 years ago
They were feed up by nasty foods that is why They use nasty words.
EZ 4:12 (KJV) "And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with DUNG THAT COMETH OUT OF MAN, in their sight. And the Lord said, Even thus shall THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL EAT their defiled bread ...."
faaarin 2 years ago
Their holy book teaches them to do nasty things.
KI 18:27"... eat their own dung and drink their own piss."
faaarin 2 years ago
Their Rebbes teach them to use nasty words.
They are nasty fellows worse than animals. They try to attribute others as what they attribute themselves.
But they really don't know they can't attribute us in bad words. Because the worst and wicked generations nasty words won't harm us.
faaarin 2 years ago
@Planet8888
LOL LOL LOL
That is she only what she is trying to attribute me.
I am not the one.
Is there any school in the world teaches about f**king
She must be the student from there.
Oh.. Now I got it.
That is Zoo. You see Zoo and Jew are same when you pronounce.
So this Jew came from a Zoo.
It is 100% confirmed.
faaarin 2 years ago
@Planet8888
LOL LOL LOL
That is she only what she is trying to attribute me.
I am not the one.
Is there any school in the world teaches about f**king
She must be the student from there.
Oh.. Now I got it.
That is Zoo. You see Zoo and Jew are same when you pronounce.
So this Jew came from a Zoo.
It is 100% confirmed.
faaarin 2 years ago
faaarin
fucking dog allah cannot even fight the jews, even after 1400 years
even with hitler and the retarded 1.5 billion pigs, he still has no answer to the mighty jews.
so what happen faaarin pig??
what the hell is allah about??
you know why??
cos allah is just the loose air from the fartings of your false donkey mohamed the child molester
BuuWaaaHahahahaha
hydromett 2 years ago
hydromett
Are you nuts, Jews are here after 3000 years and still they can't live in peace. How can they claimed to be the chosen people of God. As a gentile just use your brain.
AdorIslam 1 year ago
AdorIslam
neither can your islamic bullshit be the religion og god. but rather the religion of satanism. muslims are the biggest pigs and retards of humanity.
once they are rid off, the world will be peaceful
oolalala, a world without muslims is 1000% paradise already
we dont need your 72 virgins and rivers of wines
stupid fools,
hydromett 1 year ago
@Planet8888
Same to you and Shame on you.
She is scolding herself.
LOL.
We must be careful when we talk with mentally affected people.
Planet8888 has been descended from a satanic mentally afflicted planet.
Let Zionists talk until Jesus comes. They will be killed by Jesus.
LOL
Now I realize in which school she was taught up. That must be f***king. That is why she always repeats the same word.
Perhaps, She calls her mother by this term only.
faaarin 2 years ago
You also need to keep in mind that Christians are not the only "Bible followers". Jews are too, and what ever they did counts for and against the Bible.
So while the pedophilic mentioned verses don't exactly specify the 3 years old minimum age limit, but they most certainly don't condemn it, and according to the Talmud's detailed elaborations on the verses, as shown below, and what actually took place during their events, the verses actually allowed it, AS MOSES HIMSELF ALLOWED IT!
faaarin 2 years ago
The pedophilic Biblical verses are Numbers 31:17-18 and Numbers 31:35-40. Below, you will see DETAILED HISTORY on these SPECIFIC verses from the Jewish Talmud explaining the pedophilia that took place against the 3-year old slave girls under the direct command of Moses.
faaarin 2 years ago
Kill everything that "breathes" from humans and animals!
Deuteronomy 20:16
However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes.
It is certainly the Bible's principle and foundation to kill all humans and animals from the enemy's side. If one wouldn't call that terrorism, war crimes and mass-murdering, then what else should they call it?
faaarin 2 years ago
Ironically, one of the Bible's 10 pillars or ten Commandments says: "Thou shalt not kill. (Exodus 20:13)." Yet, innocent children and non-virgin women were ordered to be killed by the mass, perhaps in thousands! 3-year old slave girls were also ordered to be raped by Moses.
faaarin 2 years ago
@Planet8888
LOL
So your holy prophet taught you to use nasty words like this.
That means he is not a holy prophet, He must be a satanic prophet.
Satan only teaches to use bad words.
Whatever you are scolding us will not touch us.
faaarin 2 years ago
@Planet8888
Pigs always believe everything as a Pig.
You are the same.
Like an animal, Your place must be in Mental Hospital.
faaarin 2 years ago
@Planet8888
hahahaha
It is clearly proved now you are Mad.
You are a devil.
Don't worry another Hitler will come and destroy you.
When Jesus comes he'll destruct you all.
faaarin 2 years ago
@Planet8888
Hahahaha
Are you able to harm me If you write my name in a paper and use it as a toilet paper. Never.
These kind of action is called madness.
You should consult a psychiatrist.
You people are like animals. Like Dogs. They can't differentiate between stones and others. If you place a bunch of currency it'll piss on it. But it can't degrade the value of the currency.
faaarin 2 years ago
@Planet8888
Don't worry. Jesus will come and finish you all.
faaarin 2 years ago
@Planet8888
I understand that you are a Zionist.
Zionists are nasty fellows in the world. That is why Hitler massacred them.
Hitler is better than Zionists
faaarin 2 years ago