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  • The problem with eliminating social security and depending on financial investments to to fund your all of your retirement is that you cannot know if you will get reasonable returns going forward for your investments. Right now 10-year treasury bonds and bank accounts are yielding less than inflation. There is no security at all in 401K. I think we need to keep the minimal social security safety net just as it is. Try to save and invest for more of course.

  • Sharron Angle is so right on this and so many other issues yet somehow Harry Reid despite his ineffective liberal ideology still managed to stay in the Senate. Our nation would be so much better off with Sharron Angle in the Senate.

  • @madhatter0110 Oh yeah, right. Let's get rid of Social Security and Medicare which we will ALL need in when we're senior citizens and are considered "too old to hire" by most employers. Privatization of these two vital programs will only result in bailouts when the market crashes, because they are far too critical NOT to be fully-funded.

  • @GeorgiaKev It should not be up to the government to take care of anyone from cradle to grave. If people do not prepare on their own via 401K, savings, etc. for retirement then they deserve to lie in the bed they make. The people can do a far better job managing the money we earn than any bureaucracy who steals a portion of our paychecks.

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  • @madhatter0110

    The gov't is NOT taking care of everyone from "cradle to grave." The purpose of S.S. was to lessen the severity of future economic downturns. With wealth so concentrated in the hands of a few, & jobs being outsourced right and left as companies take advantage of cheap labor in third world countries, forcing multiple unemployment periods in many people's working years. It's almost impossible for most people to be able to save ENOUGH $ to live 25-40 years after retirement.

  • @GeorgiaKev Anyone can save more than enough for retirement if they start early. Although those who work have money stolen out of their paycheck without their consent with the promise of possibly collecting a small monthly sum later in life, many end up getting less than they put in and some pass away before they even get the chance to collect it. The thing about SS versus 401K and other retirement plans is that if you die, the govt keeps your money but 401K, etc. goes to your estate.

  • @GeorgiaKev Social Security now only lets government keep people dependent and therefore needs to be abolished immediately.

  • We need Social Security. If we lose Social Security, then euthanasia will need to be made legal.

  • This cunt here needs to shut the fuck up. She's one reason why the US economy is so fucked up. Tell the bitch to go to hell.

  • Yep, it needs to be eliminated

    we need to have people save for their own retirement, not steal from workers.

  • BIATCH RUDUCE UR INCOME

  • Wow the only time I can agree with her.is

    SS was meant for helping people back then with the last few years of their life, it was not meant to become a retirement plan which it has become since our life expectancy increased drastically.

  • @kristoffersayshi No, Social Security was set up so that a portion of every person's retirement savings would be set aside and protected from market volatility. Until the early 20th century, most people worked up until just a couple years before they died (remember, people didn't live as long either). Today, with employers looking mainly to hire younger workers figuring that older people aren't able to work as efficiently or effectively, Social Security is more vital than ever.

  • @GeorgiaKev Social Security is larger than Defense Spending. Social Security and other Entitlements are growing rapidly and consume more of the budget with each passing year. What is vital is stopping runaway entitlement spending. What good is protection from the markets when the Government is broke?

  • @kristoffersayshi Sure, there are a lot of things the federal government needs to shift to the states but S.S. is NOT one of them!  FYI-- are you aware that over 80% of the "red" states" have received more $ in federal aid than they have paid in taxes every single year for the past 30 years, while 67% of the "blue" states have paid more in taxes than they've received in aid. (Source: The Tax Foundation). Go check it out and then tell me who the freeloaders really are.

  • @GeorgiaKev I don't care about Red State, Blue State because freeloaders are in every state. Entitlement programs cannot be sustained without tax hikes and severe cuts to other programs. I don't advocate for cutting SS cold turkey, I support a phasing out or making SS optional so citizens that don't want it, don't have to pay for it.

  • @kristoffersayshi There may be freeloaders in every state, but apparently most of them are in the same states which decry big federal gov't all the while their hands are outstretched to Washington. I agree that entitlement programs like S.S. and Medicare cannot be sustained without tax hikes and severe cuts to other programs. So, let's eliminate the "phase-out" exemption of the S.S. tax on high-income earners while telling the red states to pay for their own roads and other local projects.

  • @GeorgiaKev I say anyone, even high income earners, that doesn't want SS should have the option of not paying for it. So your argument is "Red States are hypocrites and therefore the entitlement programs should remain" I say those programs are too expensive and does not fill any of the two purposes of Government which are:

    1) Protect her citizens against foreign enemies

    and

    2) Protect her citizens from abuse by other citizens.

    All programs that don't serve any of those purposes should be cut

  • @kristoffersayshi The purpose of Social Sec. was so that people would have SOME money set aside and available to them in their old age. It was to lessen the effects of future depressions. Privatizing S.S. will only result in a government bailout when people lose all their retirement money in a stock market crash. As for cutting everything that don't do #'s 1 and 2 on you list, then we should shut down the interstate highways, close our national partks, and end funding for medical research.

  • @GeorgiaKev The Government is not a charity. The Government shouldn't baby her citizens. The citizens should be responsible for their own selves and their own retirement, if they lose money in a crash, life sucks, should have made better choices. I'm against bailouts, every action that the Government takes, besides War, harms the economy. I'm for privatization of the highways and parks and I'm sure that private companies will continue medical research.

  • @kristoffersayshi S.S. only makes up a small portion of your retirement income. The majority of it comes from your own private investments. Privatize highways? How would that work? Will we pay a toll every time you turn onto a new road? Who decides which roads will be built and where? Parks won't be preserved if they're privatized, they will be turned into high-rise office & condo sites, and NO ONE will pay for medical research because there's virtually ZERO profit in doing so.

  • @GeorgiaKev

    SS consumes a large portion of the budget. The US has to live within it's means and that means making deep cuts.

    North Oaks, Michigan - the City owns no roads nor any property. Each lot owns half the road in front of it. They aren't having problems. If there's demand for roads, parks, medicine and there's money to be made, then the market will accommodate them. Take the black market for instance, endangered species, drugs, slaves, it's grim but true - money is a powerful motivator.

  • @kristoffersayshi Considering I can't find North Oaks, Michigan on any map or any internet search, there must be about 50 people in the town. However, with no FDA they would be subject to eating contaminated food or taking dangerous medications, without the national weather service they could not know of tornados which could tear their lots apart, and with no FDIC, they'd lose all their money if the town's only bank were to fail. With no government, the mafia will run this country.

  • @GeorgiaKev Hmm ... there was no FDA, National Weather Service, nor FDIC when this nation was founded.

    With the FDA people are eating contaminated foods. They allow meat packagers to use carbon monoxide gas mixtures during the packaging process which prevents discoloration, and hides signs of spoilage. Want to know the weather? AccuWeather and other for-profit services will still be around, and unless the town heads are incompetent babies that depend on the feds, the tornado sirens will sound.

  • @kristoffersayshi (CONT'D)....The National Weather Service doesn't only tell us "hey, a hurricane is coming!". They do research on weather patterns so we as a people can be better informed about the dangers of mother nature. Same with the CDC. Research is VERY expensive and more often than not fails to yield useful information (although the information it DOES provide is priceless). Adequate funding for research is vital if we are to remain an advanced nation.

  • @GeorgiaKev Hurricane = Bad. Board up house then skedaddle. Not too much to remember. As I said before, for-profit weather services exist and will stick around.

    We became an advanced nation, not through "chance of precipitation", but through industrial might.

    We became a powerful nation not through citizens crying "the Government should fix that and take care of me" but by them saying "What can I do to better my own life?" the answer isn't becoming a Welfare Queen. Programs need to be cut.

  • I know someone who can work has a job, has a treatable mental condition and smokes pot all day and definilty doesnot belong on social security at 20 years old.

    they need to eliminate people from the social security like him and force them to treat thier condition and work like everyone else, if a retarded person can hold down a job so can he.

  • how about just eliminating people who do not need to be drawing a social security check when they can treat thier mental illness with thier prescriptions and let thier employer know when they need some time off to take care of business.

  • course u scum bag yr family is set...we need to faze u out and people like u

  • LMAO!!! @ the Galactica MUSIC!!! She is NOT a CYLON!!! hahaha...dear god, she could be!!

  • she can eat a dick

  • social security is the definition of a ponzi scheme...

  • @canisdormit LoL really ...hmmm, not the same ...u have to take care of Americans ,,,,Yeah i know some abuse the system...i pay alot for dental and healthcare and taxes because i'm not married ....so we have to scim the fat at the top , regarding spending and sending 15 billion to one country and 3.6 billion a year to another plus a shit load more to profitiers......most of the spending is not on the healthcare or the poor....i know , i have several people i know in the middle east ..

  • @211for11 If you don't understand my simple comment then you must be psychotic, and I bet you also think that the ponzi scheme is going to keep paying out for you and your children?

  • I hate politics but you guys dont see the bigger picture behind cutting down on social security and medicare. Dont you see that the more government interferes with the "people's" affairs, the more money we're gonna have to spend and the more we become their slaves?? Its obvious Harry Reid hasnt done shit, if you guys want change you need to take a different road. Become self dependent, thats what this country has lost.

  • I don't understand why Sharron Angle would say that Latinos look Asian, but what I do understand is that I have a craving to consume a hot, thick, steaming log of her poop. Now about her Asian comment, her poop would be quite delectable with fine Asian spices used in General Tso's Chicken or Pad Thai. Also, her moldy vaginal cheese, similar to Sarah Palin's and Christine O'Donnell's, will make for an excellent dip for my Ritz crackers, spread with my late mother's silver butter knife.

  • Wow! I'm surprised and impressed to hear a candidate actually say that. I don't need and I don't want money from social security when I'm 65, and I don't want to pay in either. Let's have programs for people who actually need help and privatize them as much as possible.

  • @soundfxboy Social security pays out with 0.9% administration fees. Nothing in the private sector beats that. You many not want, but you don't know what the future brings you could loose everything of wall st tomorrow. Social security is an efficient and dignified way for people to survive after there retirement.

    It would be foolish to be the only country in the developed world to replace it.

  • You know what? If Nevadans vote for her then THEY and ONLY they should lose their Social Security benefits...not the non-Teabagger states!!!

  • Can the government have any program or service that actually supports itself? Can't think of any. Every program I know is consistently demanding more of our tax dollars.

  • @cojute06 The US has been in debt since it was formed, except for 4 years. Massively in debt and people are MASSIVELY Obese. The Baby Boomers have BOOMED. Suddenly we have a MASSIVE elderly population, they are paid up, but their health care costs are ENORMOUS. 300 lbs, stroke, heart attack, gastic by pass, diabetes, kidney failure you name it.

    US health care is TWICE as expensive as other Countries. Can ANYTHING be changed without MASSIVE Bitching? The same old thing without end =BROKE

  • Angle the Mangle Old Vinegar Tits

    What a mean, spiteful old bitch she is.

    Phase out Medicare, Phase out Social Security and Privatise Veterans affairs. She doesn't need them, she has her husbands State Insurance, so fuck everyone else.

    She won't answer questions, she only goes on Faux Noise

    Every time she opens her mouth, she says something STUPID, because she is STUPID.

    Being mad at Harry Reid not being Harry Potter is one thing, Angle will put us through a Mangle

    Vote Reid

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  • so you are saying that social security and medicare aren't broken ? You really think there will be a social security in 20 years ? if so you are dreaming. there effectively is none now. There is NO MONEY in social security. It is coming out of the GENERAL BUDGET WHEN IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SELF FUNDED. what you pay is not going to go to your social security. It is ALREADY SPENT. She is saying to stop letting the government take money out of your check for something that WON'T BE THERE !! WAKE UP

  • America is full moron.. only in this country .. an bitch like her can be prominent ...yea no ssi for your mother.. let them die.. this is what tea beggar want .. let them have it..all we have to do is have an exclusion in the law for tea beggar ,, make them happy... but don't come back cry when old

  • America is full moron.. only in this country .. an bitch like her can be prominent ...yea no ssi for your mother.. let them die.. this is what tea beggar want .. let them have it..all we have to do is have an exclusion in the law for tea beggar ,, make them happy... but don't come back cry when old

  • I would give anything to take all the money that I put in to social security and have it really invested in like a 401k were the gov. couldn't get its grubby hands on it.

    And when i die , I can choose a person in my family that would inherit the rest that is left over.

    Here is something you can put in your pipe and smoke: Socialism is a form of slavery so why do so many of my fellow American's advocate for slavery still.

  • She avoids "Meet N Greet" from news reporters and everybody....that's just shady...this is why I didnt vote for her

  • "Why shouldn't young people have the option of either sticking with the current SS program, or putting this money into a private account for themselves for when they retire? Where's the choice?"

    There are some very common sense answers to your questions.

    The government does not make you pay into social security because they're out to screw you as you seem to believe.

  • @spiralmetal : Oh really? Then why does Congress continually dip into the account for their own gain? Why is the account being stuffed with IOU's? You're just another government employee who's scared of losing that cushy, do nothing job. You guys will soon be history, because the younger people are just saying NO, we will NOT comply!

  • @joe80dman

    They are not stealing our money. People are still getting their social security money, aren't they?

    "You're just another government employee"

    Don't make me laugh. You're not talking rationally.

    "You guys will soon be history, because the younger people are just saying NO, we will NOT comply! "

    See, I knew a lot of you tea party supporters were a bunch of young independents. You're naive, and paranoid. Do you watch Alex Jones? Just curious.

  • @spiralmetal : You have no comprehension of American jurisprudence, or Constitutional Law. Why don't you guys go out into the private sector, and find a REAL JOB instead of sucking up extorted tax dollars from overburdened citizens.

    If anyone is naive here it's YOU. Oh, do you read Karl Marx, or watch too many scripted TV programs?

  • @joe80dman

    I suggest you stop reading right-wing literature. You are seriously blinded by a stereotype. Do you realize how stupid you sound implying that I'm a public servant when you don't even know me? Your messages are raw comedy.

  • Why shouldn't young people have the option of either sticking with the current SS program, or putting this money into a private account for themselves for when they retire? Where's the choice? If Congress had only left their greedy hands off of the SS Trust Account, there would be plenty of money for everyone. Instead they stole it for themselves. Congress members are one step above child molesters in my opinion.

  • You know what's funny is that you hypocrites criticize Obama as not having enough "political experience" to be in a position of high political leadership, but you're so ready to elect your fucking "grandmother" who has no political experience 'whatsoever' to be of all things A SENATOR.

    It just comes to show how full of shit you right-wingers are.

    Hey, maybe she'll bake you all some cookies at her next political rally. That'll be a good reason to support her over Reid.

  • This loon is a danger to the country.

    ~

  • What is wrong with getting government out of our pockets .

  • I agree with Sharon Angle.

    I'm 44 and I will pay into SS my whole life and probably receive nothing when I retire.  Every dollar being paid out of SS now is borrowed money.

    The US pays $500 million per DAY in interest.

    We cannot afford it.

    SS needs to be phased out, as well as all other federal welfare programs.

    We did a much better job at charity before the new deal.

  • @shawno66

    "SS needs to be phased out"

    I don't agree. It's the one thing that people can count on for some stability after retirement. As long as it's in the hands of the government, there's no way it can be tampered with. Privatize it, there's a risk it will be gambled away by financial brokers trying to make a profit.

    Cut spending somewhere else, not by eliminating our social security.  It's extremists like you and Angle that we need to be careful of.

  • @spiralmetal

    "As long as it's in the hands of the government, there's no way it can be tampered with."

    Sorry, I don't believe that. In fact I could make an argument that it has already been tampered with, already robbed of any equity it ever had by greedy politicians.

    I pay enough federal taxes every month out of my paycheck to make my house payment, health insurance payment, and student loan. Let me keep most of that money instead of giving it to the fed and I'll be fine, thank you .

  • @shawno66

    " In fact I could make an argument that it has already been tampered with,"

    Dude, you're gonna receive your social security benefits after retirement. That's unless of course you vote for Grandma Angle.

    Spare me the "greedy politicians" horseshit. Every politician is greedy except the ones you favor.

  • @spiralmetal

    "Every politician is greedy "

    so why do you want to give them 1/3 of your money?

  • @shawno66

    "why do you want to give them 1/3 of your money?"

    Sorry, but r u a multi-millionaire?

    I work for 2 companies and even have a kind of side business (which is why this is going to be my final post because I am incredibly busy). I'm making a decent income. The government does not get 1/3 of my income.

    Actually, I sympathize with your view a bit. Taxes suck! But it's not everything, there r other important things. I respect the GOP, but I usually vote Democrat.

    Peace.

  • @spiralmetal : You're right. The Gov takes between 50-60% of our incomes. Consider all of the hidden taxes in the products you buy.

  • @joe80dman

    Oh no. I'm in the poor house now. (eyes rolling)

  • @shawno66 : And you get absolutely nothing in return for all of the money they steal from you. Any extortionist will tell you that it beats working for a living.

  • Isn't that the music from Battlestar Galactica? That's really funny. On that show, they have a 30-second or so segment that explains part of the show's premise (the human race created robots who then committed genocide and wiped out most of mankind) and I swear to God that's the music they use! Seriously, look it up! That's freaking hilarious!

    By the way, it was actually a really good show. Seriously. No BS. It was very well written. But I digress... -Joe E Dangerously

  • Ugh. She's like the female version of a douche bag.

  • @shazam15 I couldn't say it better myself. That is exactly what she is. lol

  • Are any of u even listening to what she is saying? She isn't saying lets leave everyone high & dry. She is saying we need to phase it out. And replace it with something else. SS was introduced as a Trust but it never was. The politicians have always had their hands in it. Its a ponzy scheme. It is not sustainable especially when u account for inflation. Why can't we replace a broken system? Why must we settle for the service the gov. is providing now? I'm 30 & would rather invest my $ myself.

  • @savedslave, you are right!

    Many of us did not know about Angle until progressives (Marxists) began demonizing her with the frenzy of wild dogs! That piqued our interest.

    When we considered what she’s REALLY saying regarding SS and almost every issue, we couldn't agree with her more.

    And we admire her courage to tell the truth!

    Informed Americans understand that, if progressives demonize someone, that someone is likely to be good for our country.

    Angle is great for Nevada and the U.S.!

  • @Antonio33s

    Dont compare Marxists to progressives. Thats like comparing an extremeist to just a casual person. Like comparing a neo-nazi to someone who just isnt attracted to women/men who arent white. Like comparing a Feminazi to a woman who enrolled in one or two women's studies clases in college. HUGE difference there. Things dont have to be black or white. The grey area between them is bigger than people give it credit for.

  • Sharron 'Obtuse' Angle.

  • My 90 year old mother says eliminate sharron angle. Isn't this nutcase living on her husband's government pension?

  • Tell her not to live on a pension. Only rich people can think this way because they have other choices. What about the billions that DO NOT have anything but social security. She is just ignorant and doesn't think about the people she works for, "The People of this Country". I think that she should be fired by those who elected her.

  • Another scary Repug.

  • that bitch is rich why would she care

  • I despise these people who want to be elected to the government to destroy the government. If you don't believe in your government just don't vote.

  • She's broken - If I lived there I wouldn't vote for her .

  • Social Security & MediCare currently oprerates at less than 1.5% expense cost. If the ReBullCrapican repeal Wall Street reform and their Wall Street buddies get Social Security & MediCare the operating cost will rise to 18% to 24% that is the ponzi scheme.

    When they LOOSE Trillions as they did in 2008. Every Social Security recipient will be forced to live on HALF of what they currently recieve.

  • Wow such new thinking there. Didn't Bush and his pal Sununu want to privatize social security already? Angle offers nothing new just the same old stupid GOP message about governemnet being broken and when she is elected she'll help prove it.

  • @collegeswimx

    And that's a good thing.  SS is a scam, a ponzi scheme, a joke. Why entrust the government to your own retirement? Come on people, wake up....

  • Angle is going to win because the elderly recipients of Medicare and SS know the GOP won't privatize their bennies. Just their children's'. Which is okay with them because Republican greedheads know it's all about them. Screw everyone else.

  • How about we phase you tea bagging freaks out instead?

  • That's very bizarre. The makers of the commercial are against Sharon Angle, and then make a commercial that makes her look awesome. I'm confused why they are supporting her with such a positive commercial.

  • @ionlytrade

    Because only idiots want to privatize Social Security. Social Security was created because if there is a stock market crash and a bank fails, anyone who put their savings in the bank will lose them for good. Privatizing it would essentially defeat that purpose, and it would become no different than a privatized retirement plan (which are all giving less benefits these days).

  • How about we the taxpayers tell the government what we want our tax money to go towards- those of us who pay into social security should be the only ones to reap the benefits of it. Teabaggers can put all their eggs into the stock market and have it blow up in their faces.

  • @tylertyler82

    And the government's management (more like mis-management) of your money will be okay with you?  Government is the problem. Grow some balls and stop being a sheep...

  • @ATLheatholder GO GIANTS!

  • @ATLheatholder Forget balls grow some brain cells!! Private companies are in for profit , they will ALWAYS cheat you any chance they get. Insurance people are like fleas and ticks.

  • She's right we should phase them out but also make sure that the people who retired and rely on it still get what they're owed.

  • Angle is right. SS is broken. Angle wants to stop Reid from raiding Social Security and force congress to put a lockbox on it

  • yeah that could work you know i mean the gov screwed the postal service and fedex is way better more efficient i agree with her its broken like a chinese toy

  • @theamericano33333 - Postal service is like the pony express, it is getting outdated, what with all of us writing on the internet instead of mailing our letters at the post office. The telex business as well as the horse and wagon are all done in by modern inventions. We don't even pay our bills by regular mail any longer. So in essence, they are loosing money but that is the way it goes. Social Security was passed for people after the crash of 1929. People were not saving on their own.

  • This woman is seriously flawed. It's not enough to say she has a selective memory, or that that she's a pathological liar, or she seems to not even be aware we're in the electronic age where in a few seconds her lies can be replayed right in front of her. I think she's mentally ill, and that's not anything to laugh at. Seriously, I think she and many other candidates should be forced to take the MMPI. Police cadets are required to take psychological exams. Why not the people who make the laws?

  • If Social Security were in the stock market in 2008. $4 Trillion in Social Security would be GONE and those living on Social Security would now be living of HALF of their benefit.

    If you like to gamble and dont mind living on HALF of your Social Security when Wall Street screws up

    Vote Rebublic-Bull-Crapican

    If you do not want to live on ALL of your Social Security benefit

    Vote Democratic

  • @m530bc You're absolutely right. We need to get word out that euphemisms aren't the truth. Privatization simply means the Government is going to force you to invest a percentage of your money in the stock market, where you'd never get the return you get now even if you made the best investments in history. And when that money is gone, it's gone. This is as simple as a broker giving you advice on making an investment and if you lose your money, he still makes his. The GOP has always hated S.S.

  • @m530bc

    Do you realize that every dime you've given to the government for SS, will not be there for you? It's a scam. A continual ponzi scheme.

  • @ATLheatholder Do you realize the ReBullCrapican party borrowed a total of $978.4 Billion from Social Security 2001 thru 2008, and DID NOT REPAY Social Security.

    The number one problem is the congress and senate borrowing from Social Security.

    Turn your brain on turn Fox fake news OFF!!

  • Holy shit, I don't live in the United States but shit, The fuck? This Sharron Angle is fucking nutzoid.

  • SS and medicare is broke. If you don't believe it then you are in trouble.

  • She never said eliminate social security she said privotize it.

  • The reasons politicians lie is because the public doesn't want to hear the truth. People want to hear what they want to hear. When two candidates are running and one of the tells the truth and the other says what the public wants to hear, the one who says what the public wants to hear wins the election.

  • In my previous comment I should have stated that

    the Census Bureau estimates there are approximately

    40 million Americans age 65 & older, & the Bureau

    projection is there will be approximately 88 million by

    2050. I previously listed too low of numbers because

    I didn't look at the right column.

  • Continuing- Many millions of seniors would no longer be able to pay Medicare premiums & co-payments, thus sending them to the taxpayer funded Medicaid. The home foreclosure rates of seniors would require a massive governmental effort to give direct monetary aid to millions to prevent eviction & massive aid to relocate those that could not be easily saved from eviction. The whole upheaval may deepen the economic crisis to catastrophe for America. Reality in 2040? 2050? Your future?
  • Continuing- The Census Bureau says there are 34

    million Americans age 65 & older. They project it will

    be 65 million by 2050. If almost all retirement plans

    are private when a severe downturn occurs, we may

    very well have the worst home foreclosure rates of

    seniors in U.S. history. This would place an incredible

    burden on federal & state resources to pay for many

    millions of seniors having to go into nursing homes &

    other assisted-living facilities. Comment continues-

  • Angle's proposal to privatize Social Security

    would be terrible for young workers. For many years

    employers have been phasing out pensions, such

    that only about 20% of workers still have pension

    rights. The average 401K balance is only about $71K.

    From time to time we will continue to have major

    economic downturns that will reduce the value of

    workers' private retirement plans by 50% or more. If

    all your retirement plans are private this will be

    devastating if you're retired. Continues-

  • Even Bush 43 couldn't get away with this scam

  • At the idiots saying social security is horrible. Have you ever lost your mother or father? I lost mine a month ago. Social security helps you out. For you guys with teaching, fire, police, and gov. jobs with benefits and good pay checks whining you are so bankrupt imagine not having that kind of job you would be probably be signing forms for welfare. Help a brother out.

  • Amen I agree with her. Make Social Security private. Hell yes. Lets revamp

    the entire new deal it is a disaster.

  • She is right! Social Security has to be privatized. That is the ONLY way to keep greedy politicians from spending it on other things. To date, they have spent it ALL and there is nothing in the S.S. trust fund except IOUs.

  • @Polaedra28 privatized and that system would've crashed about the same time the stocks crashed :D

  • @Polaedra28 Bush43 tried to privatize SS. It won't work, look at how the Stock mkt. flucuates and falls. The reason it was passed in the first place was because of the crash of 1929. Today's bank rates are a joke - if you put savings in you wouldn't be making anything. People fail to save and that is why it was started. To make people save for their retirement..

  • sharron angle is a fool........

  • @WE23anime CBO projects a 90% public debt to GDP ratio in 10 years. :)

  • @WE23anime please go read up on some of these crazies on rightwingwatch and think progress, they're freaking me out, this one made veterans today about this, wait til they hear she actually wants their veterans benefits privatized, too, i wonder if she wants to use the fascist model pinochet used for that too?? SCARY

  • @WE23anime Maybe Sharron Angle is a fool, but Harry Reid is a crook and a destroyer of wealth. He votes for anything that costs huge money - bailouts, stimuluses, and war.

  • @WE23anime She is a BIG fool and shows that she lives in her own reality, away from poverty and misery that is common among Americans nowadays. Instead, why not scrap the bail-out support to the banking system and all the priviligies to all American politicans in the congress and senate (including the government and president himself).

  • Totally agree with Sharron and just contributed to her campaign. It takes guts to say what she said and she's totally right! Look at your paychecks and how much is being taken out for Social Security in your lifetime and tell me you wouldn't be a better steward of that money than the government. You can pay in for 40 years, die, and do you or your family see a penny of all that money? Hell no. I could be earning interest on that money so absolutely, phase it out!

  • @scoobysteak Exactly its not like your getting that money.

    The money you just put in to to social security is going to

    baby boomers now.

  • ms angle is the only thing broken

  • Yeah, let's just keep the $92 Billion in direct subsidies to Big Biz (Cato Institute) and $13 Trillion Fed Res bailout to Wall Street (beyond TARP). Let those damm old people get a job if they want health care or food.

  • @dilbertgeg Much of Wall Street and big banks donated to the Obama campaign (as stated on Michael Moore’s .com page). The baby boomers must take some responsibility for the financial disaster we are in today, since it happened on their watch.

  • Here is the problem with SSI. It is not popular, it is not sustainable. However, its socialist creators made it such that there will always be a large number of people who don't want to see years of SSI contributions to this ponzi scheme be for naught. That, and there will never be any money in the trust fund so you cannot pay them off and and replace it! No one will rather put their SSI money into SSI over a restricted savings account you cannot withdraw from until age 65. No one!

  • @dwightlooi I would rather be the last of a generation to pay into it; knowing that I will not receive SSI, if my son and grandson do not have to pay into it. This happened on the watch of the baby boomers and we should be the ones to clean up the mess. I am the last of them so I am willing to do my part. I just want my son to have the opportunity to keep the money he would throw away into SSI and invest or save it for himself.

  • @TheVegasPatriot It isnt about SSI, it's about SS! 2 different things. Yes, Pres. Obama has added $2T to the national debt. Some of that is from Bush's last budget which had a $500B deficit +TARP! In addition, we ARE in a crisis that is largely the creation of the GOP's 8 years of catering to big busines. Thirdly, fully 80% of the current national debt was run up under JUST reagan/bush/bush! It WAS deliberate and the goal was to create a budget crisis, eliminate SS and privatize it.

  • @tjs723 There is no difference between SSI and SS. We put the money in SSI fund and draw a SS check. Obama's 2 trillion deficit is Obama's contribution and doesn't include Bush's TARP! And Obama would have spent that money if Bush didn't. You can't make an argument that Obama has restraint when it comes to spending money. 

  • @tjs723 Bail out and stimulus spending doesn't work! State your sources for your statements in the future. Clinton raised taxes tremendously and that's why his deficit looks minimal (Craig Steiner). Don't defend these cowardly thieves in office!

  • i want see whole clip

  • Sharron Angle Rocks!

  • Eliminate Sharron Angle.

  • Sharron Angle right. The politicians keep raiding the money that is supposed to be used for Social Security and replacing it with IOU's that they never pay back!

  • @DougDaCosta Boot out every member of congress and senate who have been there for more than 4 years. And NEVER again allow a member of the house or senate to remain in more than 4 years. At the very least it will keep them from ripping off the American Citizen's tax dollars.

  • Medicare is 36 Trillion in debt and the government has only IOU's in place of social security funds. They count on SS income taxes to pay the outgo, but now it's going in the hole. Now the government is eyeing the 401K funds to add to their coffers. We will always need welfare for those that are destitute but Americans should be trusted to handle their own retirement. Retirement savings contributions and earnings should be untaxed,

  • @42tealime

    How can they tell if it is retirement though? I'll just say it is, have it untaxed, and go buy some shit.

  • @AmericanNohbuddy Retirement accounts, like an IRA, only you could put in as much as you want for retirement, any withdrawals before retirement would be taxed, just like they are now. All the framework is already in place.

  • @42tealime, you are right. We can trust the mafia more than we can trust Obama and his comrades! They are stealing from our children and grandchildren and they are indeed eyeing our 401K funds to add to their coffers. They need money to pay their armies of ACORN-type "community organizers." To run hisObamacare scam, Obama will force us to pay additional taxes and will spend our hard-earned money to hire 16,500 additional IRS agents! Try defending yourself from thousands of IRS ACORN-type agents!

  • @42tealime --------------ALL of your post is completely UNTRUE! Did you know that 80% or so of our current national debt was run up under JUST the last 3 GOP presidents! That's over $10T! WHY? To "starve the beast" , a strategy started under reagan to mortgage the government to the hilt, create a bidget crisis (which we have" and then ELIMINATE AND PRIVATIZE SS, medicare etc!!

    Think about that!! Repubicans played Russian Roulettte with the country's solvency and stability!!

  • @tjs723 which part is untrue?

  • @tjs723 Obama has INCREASED the national debt by an ADDITIONAL 2 trillion in 18 months (CBS News)! Congress and Senate are also responsible for our debt. Under Bush 2 congress was largely democrat until that last 2nd half of his presidency. Don't blame the GOP alone. Most of them are crooks who deserve to be jailed for their destruction of our economy.

  • Well, if we "privatize", that means to shift the care of our elderly, long time tax paying citizens to Wall Street. That sounds amazing when times are good. But how about now? When Wall Street is in the crapper, people will find themselves in the same boat as Enron pensioners...out there flapping and to old and/or sick to go back to work to provide for themselves.

  • Sharron Angle is right on social security. The money taken from us for social security would be much safer and productive in our hands, invested in PRIVATE companies. To pay for social security, the government is borrowing money, increasing our deficit and endangering the future of our children and grandchildren. Facing out social security is a MUST to safeguard our country and our future. Sharron Angle has courageous ideas that are just on target. We’ll vote for angle!

  • @Antonio33s

    actually no, social security isn't paid by borrowed money

  • @AmericanNohbuddy, of course Social Security is paid with borrowed money or, rather, with money stolen from future generations. The money our seniors put in Social Security was spent by the government long ago. Social Security is a government-run Ponzi scheme. We must stop the government from stealing from our children and grandchildren!

  • We need to phase SS out and the majority of the remaining entitlement programs too. They're breaking the U.S. But there are more and more people like Ameriannobody who don't believe in pulling their weight. They think "the rich'' should pay their way in life. They don’t understand that small businesses are included in that “rich” category. Small businesses hire the majority of people in the U.S. Their being taxed to death and aren’t able to reinvest to grow or hire new employees.

  • @TheVegasIdiot, social security should be increased. so should entitlements. the cure, end the bush tax cuts. then tax wealthy americans,big oil,gas,coal,nuclear,petro-che­micals,defense contractors,agra-business,big pharma 50%!

  • @eugeneonegin09 When the rich decide they're no longer going to work to pay for others and they join the slugs or move their companies to other parts of the world where will you get the money to pay for your utopia?

  • @TheVegasIdiot, they don't work to pay for others. they sit in offices and pay others to work for them.2. they have a moral and civic obligation to stay put in america. if they renig on that, then they should be punished.they have just as much an obligation to their workers as they do their stockholders

  • @eugeneonegin09 That is where you are wrong. People who own businesses sacrifice long hard hours and much if not every penny they have to keep their business afloat for years before it turns a profit. A small business that produces $200.00 in profit can spend more than that on overhead. And don't tell me it's not true because my friend owns a shop and made $20 thousand dollars last year after paying her employees and other overhead. YOU HAVE CLASS ENVY...SOMETHING THE DEMOCRATS TAUGHT YOU!

  • @TheVegasIdiot,i have CLASS FAIRNESS, something my christian faith taught me

  • @eugeneonegin09 YOUR CHRISTIAN FAITH DID NOT TEACH YOU THAT SEALING FROM OTHERS IS FAIR. FURTHERMORE, IT IS NOT KIND TO MAKE SLAVES OF PEOPLE BY MAKING THEM DEPENDENT ON THE GOVERNMENT. We already have programs in place for those who genuinely need a assistance but again, living off the teat of the taxpayer is wrong! We have too many in this country that take advantage of American kindness...their called the entitled class.

  • @TheVegasPatriot, you are right. The brainwashed are made to believe that Marxist "help-the-poor" scams like Obamacare are "Christian." That "Christianity" (professed by Obama and Wright) is based on Liberation Theology, which has been denounced as heretical and dangerous, not only to the authentic Christian faith, but even more so to the societies that embrace it. Castro, Chávez and other Marxists thugs have also used Liberation Theology to fool and enslave people.

  • @Antonio33s the blind leading the blinder. the somozaist and the redneck

  • @eugeneonegin09, "somozaist"?! As I indicated before, you parrot Communist propaganda. You the are the result of our FAILED school system. You demonstrate Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov was right when he warned us that U.S. enemies were brainwashing and dumbing Americans down through a substandard and politicized education and a corrupt media. Listen to Bezmenov dailymotion(dot)com/video/k6KU­Dv1wzraWhwlBt1 You are one more reason why we MUST vote for Sharron Angle.

  • @TheVegasIdiot, and they're called defense contractors, big oil,wealthy folks, and tea partiers(eliminate govt........but don't touch my social security or medicare)

  • @TheVegasPatriot, you are right again! That's what happens in corrupt, commie countries like Cuba or Venezuela. The "rich" become poor and stop producing and hiring people or MOVE to freer countries, where they can produce wealth and jobs. The uncertainty and fear that Obama has created has already forced many companies to stop hiring or to move or consider moving to other countries.

  • @TheVegasPatriot, you are right. Obama and his comrades have FOOLED people, just like Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez FOOLED people, into believing that their Marxist scams to enslave people are actually to "help the poor." Castro, Chavez and the rest of the Marxist thugs who are destroying Latin America also promoted hate and envy against the "rich". That's how Castro transformed a prosperous island into a GULAG of dire poverty and despair, where the only hope for most is being able to escape.

  • @Antonio33s Exactly!

  • @Antonio33s fidel castro has been unable to trade with america due to a 40+year stupid blockade of cuba.....and chavez gets provoked by 1moronic republican administration and ignored by the new one.

  • @eugeneonegin09, of course you'll parrot Castro's communist propaganda and the propaganda of U.S. enemies! You are the perfect example why we should vote for Sharron Angle, who has had the courage to speak against the Department of Education. Our public schools have FAILED. They have been used by our enemies to brainwash and dumb down people as per the warnings of Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov. Brainwashed people parrot the propaganda of U.S. enemies. Fortunately, most Americans are waking up.