Starcraft 2 - 2v2 Cheese to #1 Masters

[headkraber]

The mechanic to kill SCVs who are blocking zerglings from marine (when zerg is on A-move) is to run lings to SCVs and put them on hold position. Sorry if this was pointed out already.

[shadowvface]

you should cast. i would watch.

[pianopro9]

and what about siege tanks im curious??

[Ketroc21]

@pianopro9 Again, typically the overlord + cannon combo can break through the terran ramp wall before siege tanks, but if they ever get established with siege tanks, you gotta transition out into standard play. Know that you got at least 3min of safety as they gotta cut through the cannons with siege then travel to your base, so you can drone up and do a tech structure before pumping out defense to survive the counter-push. +1 carapace might be a good idea to allow lings to survive siege blasts

[pianopro9]

dumb question, but what if they dropped u?

[Ketroc21]

@pianopro9 We'd get to attack before then. So hopefully we kill the techer, but if not we at least throw an overlord in the base we don't attack to get an idea what they are up to. Drops aren't bad as speedlings can basically teleport around the map they are so fast. Something like void rays is more deadly as we have to scout it and prepare for it in advance. Sometimes after killing 1 player with a toss remaining, we just blindly get detection and anti-air as it's the only 2 ways we could lose.

[pianopro9]

@Ketroc21

hmm yes good answer. Only reason i asked is because a very similar thing happened to me and my partner when we were playing double terran. he had two bunkers up in our main and i dropped helions into the main of both and killed heaps of drones and probes. Seemed like a good counter at the time?

[0C3ANW4V3]

@ 8:40, if you just hold position, they'll hit anything in melee range. i.e. the scvs clogging your lings. Thumbs up for knowledge!

[1TheBusyBody94]

The UEN, what happened to them?

[Ketroc21]

@1TheBusyBody94 I never really watched their videos or anything, and the forum is kinda dead. But a few people still hang out in their bnet channel and on vent chat.

[enochfinal]

... Dont even put cheese your just good okay? U found a viable tactic that works even in masters league and maybe half way up grand masters. If it works dont fix it. Keep up the good work~

[mikefylla]

Seriously in that last game. How is this even possible vs two z? 14ext 13 pool and then get to 15 drones. and then just mass slings/blings. Would easily have cleared the early cannons and the first lings as he had teched for another hatch. Also must have been worst roach micro for a while, why not go for probes? Anyways, good work guys. just amazed you managed to reach masters with this build. Makes me wonder if this league is lower than EU?

[emperor1337]

2v2 no skill should all be 1 league, called 1-BaseCheeser league.

[MobileSimon]

That's why I won't play 2v2, cheesy builds no skill

[mikefylla]

@MobileSimon

proper scouting would easily have spotted the pylon. I play masters 2v2 as well and we have never lost to cannon cheeseing. Only thinwh wichi is hard to spot/prevent is all-in 6-8 min timing attacks.

[calethos]

Kinda sucks to see cheesers winning a game, but you guys go on into the midgame and end up winning. It's great to see. See you later on in the game maybe.

[Croltown]

instead of having that 2nd hatch near ur Main one just plant it at natural since u obviously got map control so they can't harrass it (to much)

[naitic]

8:20 press hold and your zerglings Attacken theire nearest target ;-)

[Yarahaha]

It is always funny to see people you just defeat call you a noob.  If you are a noob that what does them who was just pounced by said noob?

[Briancmwilliams]

You shoulda thrown down an extractor to get the queen building!

Damn terran players playing my race.

[hellopellos]

sheth? o.o

[Ketroc21]

@hellopellos sixjaxMajor knocked us out of #1 too ::)

[awsumpersun321]

this is kind of random but scietnifically when you get past 24 your finger reflxes get slower and your starcraft skill drops but you don't really require apm that much so yeah...

[blazingops]

I unsubscribed just so I could subscribe again :D

[crazylector]

ketroc just fucking rocks lol

[FrostyAbyss1]

Best thumbs up fact thus far... thank you!

[timodilo]

Has anyone else noticed that Ketroc sounds like a completely different person in the beginning whenever he says his "alright" into

[Maxaker67]

on kotaku they just showed something about a christian gamer site ok...I looked up their review of starcraft 2 and they listed as weakness: "MICROMANAGEMENT STILL NECESSARY"

[ShredST]

Instead of A-moving your zerglings to attack the scvs, you can just surround the scvs then hold position on those zerglings.

[Maxaker67]

when he does that thing with the SCV'S just hold position with your speedlings they will attack whatever they can touch

[NAMLegolas]

Ketroc... A Zerg.... :|

[furiansniperz]

beating some one with cheese doesn't mean you are better than them.

[ToxinMortalis]

@furiansniperz Actually, it does. If you lose to so called "cheese," then you played poorly and deserved to be beat.

Cheese is nothing more than a tactic you don't like to use that someone beat you with.

[shkubanek]

Thanks for another great VOD

[98989898787878]

do beat that you put your lings on hold position and it kills the scvs

[DirectXTC]

Kinda cheesy to do this every single time. once or twice? sure

Every match untill you're 1st in Masters.... :/

[qmark1022]

@DirectXTC It works doesn't it? Why not?

[Ketroc21]

@DirectXTC For future reference, you'll never see me play standard in team games. 1v1s is where I try to compete hard. Team games is where I screw around and piss people off.

[Grannymuncher]

@DirectXTC team games just do not play like 1v1, cheese is far more viable and should not be frowned uppon

[waseatenbyagrue]

@DirectXTC Kinda cheesy? 2v2 is all about cheese

[digitalwaffle]

Nice video. Can you please turn on the production tab and workers tabs and whatnot in the future?

[qmark1022]

that's how we do it, just change any of those little details that contradict us.