If anyone's familiar with the anime, Spice and Wolf, the heroine of the story has a similar style in speaking to that of Japanese courtesans. That's what I've heard anyway.
Certainly not! Oiran and Tayuu were the highest class of courtesans, or, to put it bluntly, the highest rank in the hierarchy of prostitution in the pleasure quarters. They were not Geisha, nor were Geisha Oiran or Tayuu.
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The make up is beautiful! But I regret to say that Oiran is a Prostitute, not a Geisha. The knot in the front is a dead give away. It's still beautiful tho :)
@MsKrishtina They were the same in their beginnings. They both come from the first red light quarters, but the Geisha adopted other ways and separated ways. They weren't ALL called Oiran or ALL Geisha, but they come from the same source. I read about it in immortalgeisha dot c o m
@akissy Geisha were originally entertainers, and they often played background music for the oiran at parties, and were not allowed to compete for customers. To call what is obviously meant to imitate a tayuu oiran a geisha is a bit of an insult, considering geisha are not prostitutes and a tayuu was. A tayuu was a very high class prostitute, but still a prostitute.
@MsKrishtina I never said Geisha were prostitutes, but they used to come from the same source (The Red Light Districts), and you gave me the point by explaining what they did. The rule against competition was when the okiya flourished and the Geisha started to be more common and to create their own traditions and type of dress, and then when the Geisha started getting their own reputation they left the red light districts and created their own: the hanamachi.
@akissy IF you read correctly I never stated that the Geisha were prostitutes, but o you honestly think the hanamachi were created separated from the red light district? That's a bit laughable. XDD
I like your video, but Geisha and Oiran, she don't have the same job, it's not the same thing. A Geisha is an artist who have learn during much years, music, dance, languages, and an Oiran is a prostitute who live in a close house, for all his life, since his young age. It was a currently idea since American going to Japan in 50's after war, and "taste" the asian beauty. In fact for the two job, she have a similar look.
@VioletSecret, oiran are not "prostitutes". Yujo are prostitutes. Oiran were courtesans of the highest class, it is the difference between a street walker and Madame Du Barry. They entertained by dancing, performing music and with the visual arts as well as with the conserved sexual acts [they would not even remove their kimonos] for only the noblest of men. They were often allowed into court, and often entertained 'daimyo'.
@VioletSecret Oiran of Tokyo usually didn't leave Yoshiwara unless they were accompanied, while the Tayu of Kyoto could leave whenever they wanted. The tradition of the Oiran came many centuries before that of the geisha. In fact, geisha stemmed from the tradtion of the Oiran only in the early edo era. So, to say that geisha did not at least once, a long time ago prostitute is incorrect. Of course today they do not, as well as the few remaining Tayu in kyoto. Please message me for more.
@VioletSecretYou have forgotten to say that oiran are luxury prostitutes,not just simple whores.And also that a geisha was sold/adopted during her childhood,cause it was inconceivable that a teenager become a geisha without having the education of the hanamachi,then of the geisha.Only nowadays a woman can become a geisha cause now it s a choice,not an obligation(of course most of them shows a talent for music/dance,that s why they want to begin,if not that s harder)But what i say is only details
I really wish that you would please read a book about oiran and a book about geisha.
MsKrishtina 1 week ago
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MsKrishtina 1 week ago
If anyone's familiar with the anime, Spice and Wolf, the heroine of the story has a similar style in speaking to that of Japanese courtesans. That's what I've heard anyway.
DrBCorwen 2 weeks ago
Oiran are not Geisha, there is no way you can confuse the two. Just one look at an Oiran and you know she is not a Geisha.
arbide3 1 month ago
Certainly not! Oiran and Tayuu were the highest class of courtesans, or, to put it bluntly, the highest rank in the hierarchy of prostitution in the pleasure quarters. They were not Geisha, nor were Geisha Oiran or Tayuu.
Lovejoyfanatic 2 months ago
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69needaname69 3 months ago
The make up is beautiful! But I regret to say that Oiran is a Prostitute, not a Geisha. The knot in the front is a dead give away. It's still beautiful tho :)
ukyox2x 4 months ago
Lovely job. Well done! The makeup and costume jus't superb!
Kunoichi68 4 months ago
Eversince they separated into different career paths Geisha and Oiran aren't the same anymore.^^
On another note, she ended up lookig very beautiful.^^
akissy 5 months ago
@akissy They never were the same.
MsKrishtina 1 week ago
@MsKrishtina They were the same in their beginnings. They both come from the first red light quarters, but the Geisha adopted other ways and separated ways. They weren't ALL called Oiran or ALL Geisha, but they come from the same source. I read about it in immortalgeisha dot c o m
akissy 1 week ago
@akissy Geisha were originally entertainers, and they often played background music for the oiran at parties, and were not allowed to compete for customers. To call what is obviously meant to imitate a tayuu oiran a geisha is a bit of an insult, considering geisha are not prostitutes and a tayuu was. A tayuu was a very high class prostitute, but still a prostitute.
MsKrishtina 1 week ago
@MsKrishtina I never said Geisha were prostitutes, but they used to come from the same source (The Red Light Districts), and you gave me the point by explaining what they did. The rule against competition was when the okiya flourished and the Geisha started to be more common and to create their own traditions and type of dress, and then when the Geisha started getting their own reputation they left the red light districts and created their own: the hanamachi.
akissy 1 week ago
@akissy IF you read correctly I never stated that the Geisha were prostitutes, but o you honestly think the hanamachi were created separated from the red light district? That's a bit laughable. XDD
akissy 1 week ago
@akissy I apologize. I thought when you said they were all the same in their beginnings, you meant they both started doing the same job. -_-;
MsKrishtina 1 week ago
@MsKrishtina It's ok. XD
akissy 1 week ago
where did you go ?
tumblefan101 6 months ago
Oiran are not geisha, and vice versa.
veracityau 6 months ago 13
questa non mi sembra una vera geiko... quanto una modella...
fulviab 11 months ago
I like your video, but Geisha and Oiran, she don't have the same job, it's not the same thing. A Geisha is an artist who have learn during much years, music, dance, languages, and an Oiran is a prostitute who live in a close house, for all his life, since his young age. It was a currently idea since American going to Japan in 50's after war, and "taste" the asian beauty. In fact for the two job, she have a similar look.
VioletSecret 1 year ago 9
@VioletSecret, oiran are not "prostitutes". Yujo are prostitutes. Oiran were courtesans of the highest class, it is the difference between a street walker and Madame Du Barry. They entertained by dancing, performing music and with the visual arts as well as with the conserved sexual acts [they would not even remove their kimonos] for only the noblest of men. They were often allowed into court, and often entertained 'daimyo'.
YukioSnowoBloom 11 months ago
@YukioSnowoBloom Prostitute = a person who is paid for sex. Oiran were paid for sex, art too, but sex.
MsKrishtina 1 week ago
@VioletSecret Oiran of Tokyo usually didn't leave Yoshiwara unless they were accompanied, while the Tayu of Kyoto could leave whenever they wanted. The tradition of the Oiran came many centuries before that of the geisha. In fact, geisha stemmed from the tradtion of the Oiran only in the early edo era. So, to say that geisha did not at least once, a long time ago prostitute is incorrect. Of course today they do not, as well as the few remaining Tayu in kyoto. Please message me for more.
YukioSnowoBloom 11 months ago 2
@VioletSecretYou have forgotten to say that oiran are luxury prostitutes,not just simple whores.And also that a geisha was sold/adopted during her childhood,cause it was inconceivable that a teenager become a geisha without having the education of the hanamachi,then of the geisha.Only nowadays a woman can become a geisha cause now it s a choice,not an obligation(of course most of them shows a talent for music/dance,that s why they want to begin,if not that s harder)But what i say is only details
shizukagozen777 2 months ago