Cyclists Cause Accidents! Make Cyclists Pay Road Tax & Insurance

[kentcyclist]

Cyclists should definately pay road tax and isnsurance. they shouldnt really be on the roads. Poor car drivers. We should be able to drive faster

[jbdtaylor]

Why do idiots assume that if you cycle you don't own a car? I'm an avid cyclist and own my own car. I know that given this those moronic motorists will come up with another argument, because it's not about anything other than people making them one or two minutes late to their destination while driving.

[powerkitemad]

Road tax doesn't exist. It's car tax, a tax on cars and other vehicles, not a tax on roads or a fee to use them. Motorists do not pay directly for the roads. Roads are paid for via general and local taxation. In 1926, Winston Churchill started the process to abolish road tax. It was finally culled in 1937.

[Duiss]

this discussion is pretty funny considering no one in germany would even consider making these arguments because everyone knows that everyone pays for the road equally and not only road users.

You could make the same argument for the sidewalk. It's not like pedestrians pay sidewalk-tax. So which right do they have to use it? May as well use it with your car lol.

[kentcyclist]

all cyclists are Chavs. Put em in tghe army I say.....left right left right drive e wifes 2nd jag 100 yars to the shops your orrible little man

[kentcyclist]

actually I drive my car with a provisional licence and have never been stopped. I also dont bother with insurance as its all a con and tax disks are easy enough to photo copy

[ribblestealth]

@62del Clue up, making yourself look like a mug.

[Fuzz944]

What a retarded video. Everyone pays into the same pot whether it be income tax, Capital gains tax Inheritance tax or road tax. Buying your "road tax" does not entitle you to use the roads any more than the the VAT on buying a TV entitles you to watch the BBC. What a biased pile of shite.

[kentcyclist]

Roads are for cars not bikes.

[62del]

all cyclists should undergo a cyclists basic training test to be on the road

all cyclists should have third party insurance to be on the road

all cyclists should pay road tax..all should be made law.

also the police should take a heavy hand on cyclist breaking the red lights in the morning in london.

the road system is paid by people who drive a motor vehicle,withn the addittional revenue made from taxing cyclists doom and gloom cameron can build them their own roads.

[Fuzz944]

@62del Let me see.. I've taken basic training when I was in school, it was called the cycling proficiency test. I do have third party insurance by virtue of being a member of the CTC. I have five bloody cars, so don't tell me I need to pay road tax as I probably pay more than you! I've never jumped a red light and any cycling mates I ride with I chastise heavily for doing so. (don't ride in London thank god) The road system is paid for by EVERYONE that pays any form of tax.

[XSaenen]

@62del As a cyclist I agree on the points 1, 2 and 4. However the third and fifth are nonsense. Road tax has nothing to do with the actual use of the road and is not used to build or maintain roads. It's a generic tax based on the emissions of your car. Road construction and maintenance are paid with regular taxes, which cyclists pay as well. Also, certain "green" cars don't pay road tax at all. Are you implying that those cars have no right to use the road?

[kievcyclist]

All UK cyclists should go back to 1936 and pay road tax.

[RocketScientist79]

@kievcyclist I would do, but unless I get to 33 Mph on my rockhopper the flux capacitor doesnt kick in!!

[electricyclist]

with some motorists, cyclists certainly need life insurance.

[TheVexatiousLitigant]

Thanks for the good laugh

[dazado75]

Dumb comment; Most cyclist have a car but just want to be fit.

Triathlon is the biggest growing sport and training is everyday.

Remember fuel pays for war.

[Scottishphil33]

Probably been said already, but road tax was abolished in 1937 by Churchill. It makes me laugh when I here that 'you don't pay road tax, you have no rights' rubbish. Nobody has payed road tax in 74 years! Also the assumption that cyclists don't own motorvehicles. I also own a car and a motorbike (although my car is vehicle tax exempt as it's an eco model). I work, I pay tax, the roads are as much mine as anybody elses

[HereIsScott]

ooohhhh the smell of arrogance & naivety is strong here. Think the OP needs to step out of his little cave for a while.

[catbells69]

No one pays road tax as it does not exist.

[kentcyclist]

@catbells69

yes they do and cyclists shoul pay to

[catbells69]

@kentcyclist You clearly know nothing about this subject. VED is levied on motor vehicles dependent on emissions. Some cars are exempt. Bicycles would be exempt for the same reason.

[kentcyclist]

@catbells69

But bikes do produce emmisions. What about the factories they are built in. My Jag is so efficient it cleans dirty air as I drive it.

[catbells69]

@kentcyclist They don't. I doubt your Jag is zero rated VED.

[KrunchyJD]

Video, total crap. What about the fact that British oil is in decline, and you want more car drivers, how bloody stupid. If you dont believe me check out the UK energy task force, who suggest that more cyclists are needed and less cars, otherwise demand for oil will outstrip supply. Crap video.

[MiG2880]

Hahaha cyclists paying road tax... What a bellend XD

While you're at it, why don't we introduce 'pavement tax'... Then maybe 'breathing tax'... Then eventually we'll all be paying 'existence tax'... Bloody idiot.

It's true what they say, misery loves company. This poster needs to stop whining and get a life.

[HackHunters]

you have the weight of a person plus the weight of a bike, versus the weight of a car or truck... who do you think is causing all the damage in the first place?

[PercivalBlakeney]

Exactly what part of this posting is about cyclists? Just seems to be about the Road Fund going up (again). Can I claim for 'advertising under false pretences'?

ilkorocker... seriously now... do you see any connection between your oh-so-skilful use of profanity and invective (ahem) and your obvious success with the ladies? (If you 'don't' then may I [humbly] suggest that it's high time you did?)

You shall know the truth and it SHALL set you free.

yours aye

Percy :-/

[Blunder1248]

Car tax is just a privillage to drive a motor car. That money goes to paying benefits! Fuel tax goes to pay benefits! The only money that pays for the roads is Council Tax. This video is pointless and very misleading.

[BristolCyclist]

Something I've never understood about cyclist-haters is that if they had their way, and all cyclists became drivers instead, there would be significantly more cars on the road, and therefore worse congestion. Why would any driver want that?

[The666thProphet]

you dont pay road tax you fucking moron, you pay car tax... Everyone pays for the upkeep of the roads with normal tax. Jesus christ, dont know anything about how the treasury BUDGETS to certain areas of the infrastructure?...

[AdamH1029]

*ahem*

road tax doesn't exist...

[sbrideau2000]

I wonder, why should cyclists pay road tax if drivers don't? Really, why force cyclists to pay an abolished tax.

[jrhopkin]

I agree entirely. I also think that smokers should go top of the waiting list for hospital treatment, because of all the tax they pay on their fags. Overweight drivers should get free stomach-stapling, paid for by a £500 tax on cyclists (£100 extra if they wear lycra).

In fact, I'm so convinced by the argument that I will sell my bike and drive to work instead, taking care to drive right in front of you.

[mrsoouter]

this is what i find so extremely funny.... the upload is a dip-shit motorists pay insurance so that if they were in a car accident they would be covered cyclists don't need insurance because we cant get up to any real speed, car tax on the other hand goes to the government but it is NOT used to re-surface roads, pavements ect... that comes from OTHER tax which the government receives so their for the road tax is just going to help run the country not take care of the roads

[Starman117]

Firstly cyclists already do pay road tax, and secondly we need to pay for roads because they get damaged, you know what damages roads the most? Lorries, then cars, then possibly cyclists. Or as much damade as a 15-20 stone weight can do compared to the at least 1.5 ton cars and ten ton plus lorries.

[maskofsan1ty]

It's not called road tax it's called VED (Vehicle Excise Duty) and is based on the emissions a vehicle gives off. Road repairs cost way more than the money earnt from VED and most of the money comes from the other forms of tax such as council and VAT.

The use of the roads is a privilege for all road users, not a right.

[TangoR34]

By the way you say Cyclist should pay road tax because of this then you should also think about not all cars pay road tax. band A cars with zero emissions such electric cars. So yeah cyclist should 'pay' road tax for £0 because they don't release any CO2.

[Cliffjumper24]

I can accept the idea that not enough money from vehicle/fuel taxes is being allocated to councils for better road maintanence.... but what has that go to do with cyclists?

I'm a cyclist, I live in a city... I don't need a car.

If I want to travel any distance, I catch a train.

Most of the money for road repairs is paid from Council Tax.... which I pay.

So when I hear complants of 'freeloading cyclists', the reality is, it's the cars that are freeloading off my council taxes!

[quwers]

LOL.

[Henders100]

"Road Tax" is based on the emissions that a vehicle gives. That's why some cars are no £0 to tax. The same reason why cyclists don't pay.

[Wildboared]

Oi Kockrocker get a life, or alternatively get laid. Thank You.

[ilkorocker]

wimpy bikers get the bike seat out your arse and see what the goverment are saying and what chewit is saying helping the enviroment bollacks where did the bike come from...... a factory. howd it get to a shop? a huge lorry how does it get to your house? dilivered? then you have to dry clean your skin tight lycra so shut the fuck up about the enviroment want to do somthing helpful use your bike for recycling metal

[megabika]

@ilkorocker

Yes, but it's less than a car you silly twat. I wash my lycra in babies tears at 10 deg. C. Fuck the fuck off.

[skoockum]

@ilkorocker I want to thank you for putting up this video. There's nothing I enjoy quite so much as watching an idiot like you getting his ass kicked over and over and over by people armed with the simple facts. xD!!

[TVismyopiate]

@ilkorocker fool, take all the personal transportation cars driven by able-bodied people off the road, replace them with bikes and tell me there's not going to be a massive difference for the better (if ones pathetic little brain can think that far ahead in terms of decades, not minutes and seconds)! Bikes are the best for personal transportation, vehicular transport is the best for heavy goods transportation (but still mis-used and highly under-integrated with waterways, rail etc).

[triathjohn]

PS cyclists pay the correct amount of VED for their emissions band. Zero. The same as people who drive small, low-emission cars. WIll you be campaigning to have them taken off the road too?

[triathjohn]

Ilkorocker, what is your obsession with cyclists? You protest too much. You should try cycling. I think you'd love it. Get to work cheaper, faster and in a better mood. Spend your Sundays up in the hills with your friends, free and with the wind in your hair. If you need any advice on which bike to buy or riding technique, give me a shout. A couple of rides out on the road, and I guarantee you will be fitter, calmer, and more patient and tolerant of others on the road.

[kentcyclist]

@triathjohn I drive my Jag at 80 MPH in the town to relax

[CyclingMikey]

LOL, what a stupid muppet. Somewhere around 80 and 90% of the subset of collisions between motor vehicles and cyclists are the fault of the drivers. Given that cyclists tend to earn more than the UK national average, they pay more taxes than the average driver. They also pay fuel and VED. Then there are the non-drivers and non-cyclists who also pay income and council tax.

Looks like it's drivers that are freeloaders, a pain in the arse, and cause accidents. Oops, own goal.

[chew1047]

@CyclingMikey Why do cyclists pay more taxes than the average driver just because they tend to earn more than the UK national average ?. or are you saying cyclists earn more than the average motorist ?.

[catbells69]

@CyclingMikey I commend you, sir.

[AlwaysTrikeIT]

a) Most cyclists do pay Vehicle Excise Duty on their cars, which they then leave at home.

(VED, because Road Tax was abolished in 1936 with some very prophetic words from Churchill)

b) None of the tax I pay on alcohol is going to build breweries or pubs.

c) Never seen an accident caused by a cyclist - seen plenty caused by drivers. In general cyclists are aware that they are basically squishy, drivers have no such awareness, and many don't care about who they might hurt.

[downfader2]

@AlwaysTrikeIT Drivers are still squishy when it comes to HGVs. However the two drivers I saw on monday morning failed to take this into account when they squeezed past a big rig trying to reverse into a builders yard.

:-o

[downfader2]

Lets tally it up for those that cant understand:

£8.8b - road building and repair

£3b - just to police the roads

£9.9b - cost to NHS from RTAs

£3.2b - monitor/deal with noise pollution

£19b - air pollution (excl co2)

£10b - water pollution

£2b - NHS dealing with sedantry lifestyles and obesity from motorvehicle use

These details are all free to view on the DfT and other Gov websites. Now stop crying like babies ;-P

[kentcyclist]

@downfader2

whats that got to do with it. Think of all the pleaseure I get for driving my jag which is far more important than u chavs on bikes

[downfader2]

@kentcyclist whats what got to do with what? You mean all the numbers, the societal costs imposed by motorist that you chose to ignore..?

[CycleDub]

@kentcyclist Most people get over that silly measuring of self-worth by size of car around the age of 22 or 23. Please do post again when you grow up a bit.

[xchopp]

@kentcyclist Oh I get it: this is an ironic post. well done!

[kentcyclist]

@xchopp

Im 100% a cyclist. Ive never had a car. My dog travels in a trailer and we go everywhere. I think making the dumb comments Ive been doing is more effective to highlight a cyclists lot rather than be defensive and explain to ignorant motorists.

[TVismyopiate]

@kentcyclist If you're male, I bet as you age, you'll be able to get it up for a good ten years longer than the average driver.

[MrOuchthathurts]

Wait, so i'm a cyclist, so when i ride a bike I should pay tax, despite the fact i'm not damaging the roads if anything they're doing more damage to my bikes? I'm already paying tax for the cars, which I use less than I would because I can cycle most places.

[geppegep]

@MrOuchthathurts you ARE damaging the roads, everything that puts their weight on the road is damaging it, ofc some things more than others 

[MrOuchthathurts]

@geppegep that's just pedantic, of course every time we touch anything we "damage" it, my elbow on the desk right now is "damaging it"

At the end of the day the damage that cyclists do to the road when compared to the damage being caused by motorists is NOT noticeable.

To be fair the wear on the road from an individual car probably wouldn't be noticeable but the shear volume of cars and the fact they weigh at least 10-15x more than a bike and generate much greater forces does have an impact.

[PompeyBike]

Don't you just love the intelligence?

Post a few obscenities when you can't come up with a proven or substantiated statement - most 4 year olds have better social skills than that!

Note the video also shows dozens of freeloading pedestrians, and worse all those car passengers sponging and freeloading off the drivers.

Drivers pay more in tax than passengers - make passengers pay road tax as well, and don't even think of a reduction for childrn or infants as they take up the same room !

[ilkorocker]

@PompeyBike If its a fare paying passenger then they do pay tax, if its a family member as part of a family unit they also pay tax, so if you can't come up with a proven or substantiated statement shut the fuck up, you sad old queen....Don't YOU just love the intelligence?

LOL...........................­..........

[PompeyBike]

@ilkorocker

I think my point stands, a reply fit for a 4 year old....

Let me get this right...

In between the illiterate ranting........you are claiming that a family member "pays tax", what "tax" would that be?

[chew1047]

@PompeyBike Now why would i want to get in a debate with a sad old fucker like you ?. I've made my point and its got up your nose, thats good enough for me..now would you kindly fuck off.

[PompeyBike]

@chew1047

We'll take that immature little tantrum as you have failed to make any point whatsoever and think that posting obscenities will hide the fact.

But then again what do you expect from someone with the literacy of a four year old?

Keep up the good work it bolsters my argument brilliantly!

[chew1047]

@PompeyBike Hook line and sinker..LOL. immature little tantrum -posting obscenities- literacy of a four year old- blar blar blar, change the record for fucks sake, your getting boring now.

[PompeyBike]

@chew1047

Ooooh more naughty words!

Please carry on demonstrating your burning wit and stunning insight.

[chew1047]

@PompeyBike For someone who seems to have a glimmer of intelligence you really are stupid, l wonder if you could or would back up your big words like a man face 2 face. i doubt it.

[PompeyBike]

@chew1047

Congratulations, no obscenities.

However still pointless posturing with no mature or intelligent comment.

Keep trying - you may even get up to Key Stage 1 for literacy in a couple of years.

[downfader2]

@PompeyBike Hahaha! love the repost PB!

[PompeyBike]

@ilkorocker

.. and we still wait for the fictitious tax to be explained.

Did someone give you a bill with "passenger tax written on it in crayon?

Or are you not replying because you know you are talking rubbish?

[downfader2]

@ilkorocker Ilko, what is it? Did your missus run off with a cyclist or something, LMAO! You really havent understood ANYthing about the tax system (though to be honest neither have ITV with their Tonight programme who have it all wrong).

You have to share the roads, Mr Toad. Big deal if they're there and they pay less - more fool you for not working out a solution to your situation.

[marcusesq]

@ilkorocker You're argument applies equally to cyclists. FAIL!!!

[leapoffaith20]

@ilkorocker You know what pays for road maintenance? Council tax.

[couldntcareanyway]

Since when has the BBC been the mouth piece of government policy? Well i've got news for you - today I bought a packet of chocolate biscuits and in the process paid towards the upkeep of your precious roads. An dof course its VED not road tax - learn your subject before commenting

[chew1047]

@couldntcareanyway i think the point ilkorocker is making is that the motorist is pay 48 billion pound a year more than cyclists, now in dont think you would raise 48 billion pound in tax of chocolate biscuits you fucking twat. + you dont pay tax on food you wanker......learn YOUR subject before commenting.

[PompeyBike]

@chew1047

Biscuits are taxable as a "luxury item" and always have been

But I don't suppose you will apologise - an obscenity laden rant is more your style.

[chew1047]

@PompeyBike I don't suppose you will answer my question, are you prepared to back up your big mouth like a man, face 2 face...

[PompeyBike]

@chew1047

What a pointless little flounce that is!

The playground mentality is yours - not mine..... Why should I sink to the level of your little play pen tantrums?

Is "My dad's bigger than yours" next?

I will continue to show how feeble your position is - You will continue with the immature posturing and swearing,

Now what would be nice is an apology for the mistake you made over the biscuits

That would be mature and adult - but as we know that is simply not your style.

[chew1047]

@PompeyBike Just as i thought, you are a spineless little wanker.

[PompeyBike]

@chew1047

Care for a (taxable) biscuit?

If you are not able to apologise for your glaring error then I think we can take any claims about "being a man" as more of the same pathetic bluster.

Your playground posturing is really funny, what do you do for an encore?

[chew1047]

@PompeyBike Same old shit different day.

[PompeyBike]

@chew1047

Is that all you can do as an apology for your mistake over biscuits, not the best.... or are you still avoiding doing so?

[chew1047]

@PompeyBike Who said anything about Chocolate covered biscuits ?. im talking about Chocolate flavored biscuits, Bourbons for example,Under UK law, no Value Added Tax (VAT) is charged on biscuits and cakes — they are "zero rated, now are you going to apologise to me for jumping to conclusions and mountains out of fucking molehills now drop it old man and fuck off.

[chew1047]

@PompeyBike I said Bourbons for example, not "I only meant Bourbon biscuits"so your wrong again. now will you stop being Immature and give me my apology or you going to be the spineless little wanker i predicted.

[chew1047]

@PompeyBike i was just sat having a cup of tea with a tax free Chocolate Bourbon biscuit and i thought to myself, i wonder if Pompey's sent me my apology yet, and to my surprise you've not done it yet. WHERE'S MY APOLOGY ?

[PompeyBike]

@chew1047

I would certainly apologise had you been correct, but ......

You stated twice that "Under UK law, no Value Added Tax (VAT) is charged on biscuits and cakes — they are "zero rated, now are you going to apologise to me"

That is wrong (still) so why do I need to apologise when you still post rubbish?

I will of course apologise when you provide evidence that ALL cakes and biscuits are not taxable as you stated.

[chew1047]

@PompeyBike Generally speaking you don't pay Value Added Tax (VAT) on biscuits and cakes, now what part of this are you not getting ? do you want me to give you a list of the hand full of biscuits and cakes that come under the luxury item category, ( meaning are tax free,) 1- im not prepared to spend all day doing this just to prove my point,-2 there will always be grey areas, jaffa cakes for example, for someone like you to pickup on,

[PompeyBike]

@chew1047

I am still not getting this ?

Your statement above that luxury items means VAT free is still fundamentally an error, wrong, mistaken, and shows an amazingly poor understanding of the system. Hardly surprising that you don't want to highlight your poor knowledge further.

[chew1047]

@PompeyBike Your pathetic Immature hair splitting comments speak volumes, better than any apology,

[PompeyBike]

@chew1047

So you still think an apology is in order....

OK then I apologise for showing that you are unable to admit when you are wrong, I also apologise for showing that you wriggle like an aging ballerina to change what you post and then try and evade the point.... when you are wrong

Of course showing your ineptitude and poor skills both in literacy and consistency are unforgivable so I suppose I should also apologise for this.

It doesn't change the fact that you are wrong though!

[chew1047]

@PompeyBike I've just had a look at some of your sad videos and i think its fair to say, nobody likes you, it must be horrible having no friends, but you shouldn't start petty arguments just for attention, i do apologise, not for the biscuits but for mocking the afflicted, maybe you should think about some anger management classes, im going now for a cup of tea and some tax free chocolate hobnobs. Have a nice day if that's at all possible for someone with your condition.

[PompeyBike]

@chew1047

Tax free hobnobs, you still haven't understood the system have we?

If you can't understand tax on biscuits what chance do you have with anything more complex?

[chew1047]

@PompeyBike Yes tax free hobnobs, my particular favourites are the chocolate creams and the mini chocolate chip varieties because they are tax free, unlike the chocolate covered hobnobs, its quite simple.... You should stop jumping to conclusions and shooting your big mouth off, otherwise its you that will find anything more complex difficult to grasp.

[PompeyBike]

@chew1047

Wriggling again?

If only a chocolate cream "Hobnob" or chocolate chip "Hobnob" existed - they don't

You posted "Tax free chocolate hobnob" and are now claiming you meant two fictitious biscuits that don't exist!

Stop squirming, and admit you actually have no idea?

Now here's the challenge...

post a link to either a chocolate chip hobnob, or a chocolate cream hobnob - or simply admit you are posting rubbish!

Or simply admit your stupidity?

[chew1047]

@PompeyBike no

[PompeyBike]

@chew1047

I assume that is a no to the references, therefore the only conclusion is that you are now admitting that in a futile attempt to cover your stupidity yo made things up, made unsubstantiated claims, or were just too stupid to understand the system

FAIL!!!!!

[chew1047]

@PompeyBike Wriggling again...NO. squirming.....NO. admit I have no idea.....NO. fictitious biscuits that don't exist .....NO. admit I'm posting rubbish....NO.admit my stupidity....NO. wrong again, this time on all accounts and i except your challenge, this is just one of many links, mysupermarket.co.uk/ocado-comp­are-prices/Biscuits/McVities_H­obNob_Chocolate_Creams_200g.ht­ml A simple task any idiot could of done (even you) by simply Googling it.

[PompeyBike]

@chew1047

Wasn't that easy - now where are the chocolate chip ones?



[chew1047]

@PompeyBike is this your way of admitting that you are wrong again ?. and you said either choc chip or cream, EITHER... look it up.

[PompeyBike]

@chew1047

@chew1047

Nope - I just wanted a reply.... and wanted you to quote a search engine.

According to you

1. "you dont pay tax on food you wanker" apparently reads "Chocolate bourbons"

2. Apparently "Chocolate Hobnob" means "chocolate chip "or "chocolate cream"

Googling "Chocolate Hobnob" doesn't come up with either in the first 30 pages, Googling "Food" doesn't come up with bourbon either!

Wrigglefest or what!

It was simply to show how you change each time you lose!

[chew1047]

@PompeyBike LOL.. Now who's wriggling and squirming, your replies are getting more pathetic by the day, why cant you just admit your wrong ? its there in black & white, you said fictitious biscuits that don't exist! WRONG...you said you pay tax on Chocolate biscuits, WRONG... you only pay tax on Chocolate covered biscuits, and when i said you dont pay tax on food you wanker i ment it, just admit your wrong and stop quoting taxable luxury items (Chocolate covered biscuits)

[PompeyBike]

@chew1047 But according to you "biscuits and cakes that come under the luxury item category, ( meaning are tax free,) " So you claim that luxury means tax free, yet later you contradict yourself.. "taxable luxury items (Chocolate covered biscuits) " Then we have: "Under UK law, no Value Added Tax (VAT) is charged on biscuits and cakes" So they are taxable and tax free? Apart from the childish obscenities you really have no consistency have you? Which version do you claim now?

[chew1047]

@PompeyBike You call me childish LOL. I know your wrong and you know your wrong, i can tell by your pathetic reply, you haven't got the ability to admit when your wrong so go away you sad pathetic spineless old man. Dont bother replying to this, i win you lose now go away your getting boring.

[PompeyBike]

@chew1047

So which of your various claims are you going to stick with?

Claiming you are winning and running off is almost as immature as your use of obscenities!

[chew1047]

@PompeyBike Various claims ?. No just the one, i win and you lose. i'm not running it's like i said your getting boring now, and as for immature obscenities, you are a sad boring spineless old man and the sooner you come to terms with this fact the better. NOW GO AWAY LOSER...

[PompeyBike]

@chew1047 Oooooooh! Now which of your claims are you going to stick to? # PompeyBike 1 hour ago @chew1047 "biscuits and cakes that come under the luxury item category, ( meaning are tax free,) " "taxable luxury items (Chocolate covered biscuits) " "Under UK law, no Value Added Tax (VAT) is charged on biscuits and cakes" But of course - you can't If you choose one then you have to admit the other were wrong and you were changing your claim all the time... difficult one for you.

[chew1047]

@PompeyBike Are you still claiming chocolate cream hobnobs are fictitious biscuits that don't exist!

same old blar blar blar, GO AWAY LOSER.

[PompeyBike]

@chew1047

Avoidance tactic - which statement are you going to stick with?

I am quite happy to admit that this was a windup (see above) to get you to post a link..... that would enable me to show how you were changing your stance.

Your original statement was "Chocolate Hobnob, By using your chosen site we can show that that this descriptor is a taxable biscuit as defined by Google.

Your wriggling to claim you didn't mean this after all is cringe-worthy and worth the ploy to get the link

[PompeyBike]

@PompeyBike

Of course we could use your tactic and claim that I didn't mean UK VAT at all, but mean the third draft of the VAT white paper of the Outer Mongolian Empire in 1975 and therefore I am right?

[chew1047]

@PompeyBike Absolutely amazing, this statement proves how fucking mad you are, you've lost it big time, a windup LOL. GO AWAY AND GET A LIFE LOSER..

[ilkorocker]

@PompeyBike Why dont you just fuck off, nobody's interested in what you have to say, you just come out with the same crap all the time,

[PompeyBike]

@ilkorocker

Is that the answer to the question about which tax passengers in cars are paying? I suspect that a few people would be interested in your answer..... if of course you actually have one?

[PompeyBike]

@ilkorocker

..and still unable to answer as to what "tax" you are claiming car passengers pay

Rather undermines your feeble case doesn't it?

[downfader2]

@chew1047 No. They dont pay £48b more. They pay £48b because the cars damage the road surface and kick out shit and noise from the exhausts and engines.

[chew1047]

This video proves road tax does pay for the roads...so why do cyclists keep on insisting it doesn't ?. well done ilkorocker maybe they will shut the fuck up now and stop posting there sad boring unimportant pathetic videos,.especially gaz545 who must of posted over 200 videos of what he calls close passes and not once been knocked off, fucking boring or what, keep up the good work ilkorocker.

[gaz545]

Given up making montages? that's a shame.

Funny how the video doesn't relate to the title or the end message you give. Nothing about cyclists in the video.

[redvee2002]

What is a Motoist? Is it a euphemism for somebody who hates the two wheeled pedal pushing road user? I guess your PC doesn't have spell check.

[definitelynotkwacker]

It's not just roads mate, what about all the money we pay on alcohol? Do the government build us any new pubs? Do they shite...

[downfader2]

@definitelynotkwacker All the decent pubs around here have closed :-(