Restricting abortion after the next UK general election?

[sjrodovalho]

if killing what is alive and human is a crime so abortion is a murder.

[andybelinka]

Hi Landon.

I would appreciate your feedback after working through the "Case Against Abortion" and the FAQ on the website abort67dotCOdotUK.

I have asked others on youtube but it seems intellectual honesty is scarce. You seem to possess good analytical ability so I thought I would try you. Look forward to hearing from you.

[DLandonCole]

@andybelinka Andy - I'm travelling at the moment so I may not be able to do it for a week or so, but I will do it, I should think, by next week.

[andybelinka]

@DLandonCole

Hi Landon. Thanks for getting back. I hope this travelling is somewhere nice! I'll hear from you when you get back.

[CredoCatholicJournal]

Liberalism and Socialism mean more Abortion- The Murder of our Future

[DLandonCole]

@CredoCatholicJournal Erm... no, not necessarily. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you would advocate restricting abortion?

[CredoCatholicJournal]

@DLandonCole Both surgical and chemical abortion are morally wrong.Chemical meaning the pills used.Also the so called 'morning after pill'.Interesting in Britain you can't kill a fox but can murder a child in the womb.

[DLandonCole]

@CredoCatholicJournal You can't hunt foxes with dogs. You can still shoot them.

I disagree that pills that prevent implantation are abortifacients and, in any case, i disagree that abortion is murder or morally wrong.

[CredoCatholicJournal]

@DLandonCole Atleast you are honest and don't hide your support for the killing of the innocent.The unborn are the only ones we can say who are innocent..

[ScouseCaspaXS]

Ugh what the hell? I shall be voting in this election definitely. You can be sure there will be uproar if they release this law. Especially from me! Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

[DLandonCole]

@ScouseCaspaXS My pleasure, Scouse. The key thing is to check where an individual MP stands on abortion.

[ScouseCaspaXS]

I will definitely be doing so, I do not want to see women performing unsafe abortions on themselves again. Talk about dragging us back.

[DLandonCole]

@ScouseCaspaXS I remember hearing Claire Rayner once saying that, even if she were morally opposed to abortions, it would still be better to have legal, safe abortions than another generation of back-room abortionists.

[APDurrant]

Other restrictions, such as cooling off periods and mandatory counselling are a bad idea. Neither would, IMO, be used to help the patient, but instead, to push an anti abortion message.

Availability of counseling though, that would be nice to see funded. Having an Abortion, even to save your own life, can shake people up a lot.

[DLandonCole]

@APDurrant I am for having all the advice and counselling in the world being available on tap. Like you, I don't think it should be mandatory; we trust people to be able to make up their own minds.

[APDurrant]

The change in upper bounds for abortion is a subject I'm concerned with, as while I support a woman's right to choose, I do feel the concept of unborn life has value as well. However, I don't think this upper limit should be measured by what age the unborn survive outside the womb, which seems to be what's driving this reduction (High profile 23 week premature births surviving, as I recall).

However, it's hard to have this debate because it's not driven honestly, but as a means to a total ban.

[MrJoNVaughan]

Interesting figures, although I take it as good news.

[DLandonCole]

@MrJoNVaughan Fair enough, although as you'll have realised I disagree. Abortion is traditionally a conscience or non-partisan vote but, even so, there are tendencies within parties.

[marcmerlin]

For those of not familiar with the British system of government, is a law passed by Parliament subject to judicial review? Is there recourse to challenging it in the European Court of Human Rights?

[DLandonCole]

@marcmerlin There is no judicial review of legislation in the UK. There can be JR of administrative decisions, and so it would only be if the legislation was improperly applied that that kind of litigation would be possible. The ECHR would not have jurisdiction as it is an emanation of the human rights body, the Council of Europe. I think you're thinking of the European Court of Justice; however, that can only rule on matters of EU law. Similarly to the other example, improper administration

[DLandonCole]

@DLandonCole of the law could be grounds for an appeal ending up at the ECJ, but the law itself could not be appealed there as it is outside the Court's competences.