This is great! I have been workign on this today but ....I have been using a COPPER PLATE. I had one image work in the very beggining but then the entire afternoon I have been wiping my drawings away....is ther eanyway you can use copper????? Thanks for sharing this! love that it is non-toxic!
Hi It's possible that it works with a copper plate. It works on zinc too. I will try. Alumimium is more stabibility. Thank's a lot for your post. Do you know the forum Inkteraction ? We wil can speak more about it.
@baffinnh no, I don't know that forum . It sounds interesting.
I had so many problems with the drawing yesterday. It kept washing off the plate. I used some good handmade soap too. Even when I used oil pastel that washed off. Do you think USA cola is different than your cola? did you put gum arabic in the cola? on another note, do you know Peregrine Press group in USA? Printmakers. We can talk more about that. cheers
Hello can you write me at emilion@laposte.net ? thank's a lot
Be careful with cola you must read acide phosphoric in the cola's composition. You must try again. K-Litho is simple but still lithography . Attemps ares necessaries. See you on emilion@laposte.net
Hello ! Merci beaucoup pour ce document extrêmement didactique. Je ne comprends simplement pas pourquoi il y a adjonction de Cola à un certain moment... Pour fixer le savon, le glucose durcit-il le savon, l'empêche-t-il de se dissoudre à l'eau ?
Il y a de l'acide phosphorique et de la gomme arabique dans le cola. L'acidulation rend l'aluminium hydrophile sur les zones non protégées par le savon (ou autre corps gras). On mouille (éponge/eau) l'alu avant de l'encrer avec une encre grasse. L'eau s'écarte du trait et stagne sur les parties blanches. L'encre grasse n'adhère que sur le dessin. La lithographie est basée sur le principe du refus de l'eau et du gras. C'est Aloys Senefelder qui a découvert cela à la fin du XVIII e siècle.
@DB01LGC Bonsoir. Merci de m'écrire à emilion@laposte.net !
Sinon brièvement. Merci d'abord. Ensuite, première question : avez-vous déjà fait de la lithographie ? Le papier alu que vous utilisez est-il bien SANS téflon ou autre surfaçage en plastique ? Le savon est-il de Marseille ou pur végétal 72% ? Si compliquez dessinez avec un crayon graphite 8 ou 9B et dans ce cas pas besoin d'huile pour faire disparaître le trait. Une prochaîne vidéo montrant ça se prépare. Amicalement
Merci pour cette idea! Est-ce il y'a un autre type de savon que on peut utilizer? Je suis Americaine, et je ne suis pas sure que je peut trouver le savon de Marseille. Pourquoi ce savon en particulaire? Comme inglesconlaguera a dit, parce que le savon et tres (alcaline?) J'ai bien appreciet votre video-merci!
Bonour. Il faut utiliser du savon de bonne qualité (pure vegetal 72%). Si vous n'avez pas ce savon c'est pas grave on peut dessiner avec un pastel gras. Take a look on my site internet there is a handbook to download.
Print with a spoon and with the thumb, careful it's very hard, use an etching press if you can. If you have an aluminum granulated plate, use this too, the same process with cola and oil.
You must roll 3 or 4 time if you want an image with contrast. But do not ink more !
Yes it's Marseille soap pur vegetal 72%. You can use also a pastel or specific material litho for beguinning, it will be less difficult. Use also an grease etching ink (not ink litho, it's too hard).
The soap is savon de Marseille, which is why he puts the new cube in view. It's alkaline, which is why it reacts with the acidic Cola and etches the foil.
@SweinRobber I was puzzled by this too. The English document on his website describes it as "grease chalk", but I suspect it is actually butter! The black would be "Oil paint or better etching ink. Do not use lithographic ink."
@jumpinwilliboy The ink needs to be reset each time. To make even distribution of colour. And then it needs to be wiped in between each inking, because the ink sort of.."forgets" and the ink would roll onto parts its not supposed too. if that makes sense.
This is great! I have been workign on this today but ....I have been using a COPPER PLATE. I had one image work in the very beggining but then the entire afternoon I have been wiping my drawings away....is ther eanyway you can use copper????? Thanks for sharing this! love that it is non-toxic!
baffinnh 3 months ago
Hi It's possible that it works with a copper plate. It works on zinc too. I will try. Alumimium is more stabibility. Thank's a lot for your post. Do you know the forum Inkteraction ? We wil can speak more about it.
emilivideo 3 months ago
@baffinnh no, I don't know that forum . It sounds interesting.
I had so many problems with the drawing yesterday. It kept washing off the plate. I used some good handmade soap too. Even when I used oil pastel that washed off. Do you think USA cola is different than your cola? did you put gum arabic in the cola? on another note, do you know Peregrine Press group in USA? Printmakers. We can talk more about that. cheers
baffinnh 3 months ago
Hello can you write me at emilion@laposte.net ? thank's a lot
Be careful with cola you must read acide phosphoric in the cola's composition. You must try again. K-Litho is simple but still lithography . Attemps ares necessaries. See you on emilion@laposte.net
emilivideo 3 months ago
Hello ! Merci beaucoup pour ce document extrêmement didactique. Je ne comprends simplement pas pourquoi il y a adjonction de Cola à un certain moment... Pour fixer le savon, le glucose durcit-il le savon, l'empêche-t-il de se dissoudre à l'eau ?
A bientôt
totokassa 4 months ago
Il y a de l'acide phosphorique et de la gomme arabique dans le cola. L'acidulation rend l'aluminium hydrophile sur les zones non protégées par le savon (ou autre corps gras). On mouille (éponge/eau) l'alu avant de l'encrer avec une encre grasse. L'eau s'écarte du trait et stagne sur les parties blanches. L'encre grasse n'adhère que sur le dessin. La lithographie est basée sur le principe du refus de l'eau et du gras. C'est Aloys Senefelder qui a découvert cela à la fin du XVIII e siècle.
emilivideo 4 months ago
@emilivideo
Superbe vidéo!!
Par contre impossible de reproduire cette technique
Le savon part avec le passage du coca,
l'huile enlève le reste. Il n'y a plus rien sur la feuille d'alu :-(
L'encrage reste uniforme, pas de zone restant suffisamment mouillée pour écarter l'encre.
Je ne dois pas être très doué ou c'est proche du miracle.
Je dois rater quelque chose
Si vous avez des conseils je suis preneur.
Cordialement
DB01LGC 2 months ago
@DB01LGC Bonsoir. Merci de m'écrire à emilion@laposte.net !
Sinon brièvement. Merci d'abord. Ensuite, première question : avez-vous déjà fait de la lithographie ? Le papier alu que vous utilisez est-il bien SANS téflon ou autre surfaçage en plastique ? Le savon est-il de Marseille ou pur végétal 72% ? Si compliquez dessinez avec un crayon graphite 8 ou 9B et dans ce cas pas besoin d'huile pour faire disparaître le trait. Une prochaîne vidéo montrant ça se prépare. Amicalement
emilivideo 2 months ago
this is awesome! many thanks
LooSauvage 4 months ago
Wonderful! I took lithography in college and have wanted to try it again ever since.
bgcyclist 4 months ago
Muchas gracias!!!!, la simpleza y cotidiano al mando!!
mabelonghetti 5 months ago
Merci pour cette idea! Est-ce il y'a un autre type de savon que on peut utilizer? Je suis Americaine, et je ne suis pas sure que je peut trouver le savon de Marseille. Pourquoi ce savon en particulaire? Comme inglesconlaguera a dit, parce que le savon et tres (alcaline?) J'ai bien appreciet votre video-merci!
jinnypearce 5 months ago
Bonour. Il faut utiliser du savon de bonne qualité (pure vegetal 72%). Si vous n'avez pas ce savon c'est pas grave on peut dessiner avec un pastel gras. Take a look on my site internet there is a handbook to download.
emilivideo 5 months ago
Awesome.
kingsart1000 5 months ago
This is so cool! I can't wait to give it a go!
spigotsavage 5 months ago
Love it. Always enjoyed lithography class in college but never saw any way I could afford to ever do it again. Maybe I'll give it a go. Thank you.
bgcyclist 5 months ago
@bgcyclist - I've been plotting robbing a bank for a giant litho stone and press@@@!!!
damoneugenerich 4 months ago
Clici just under the video to read more information and links
emilivideo 5 months ago
Print with a spoon and with the thumb, careful it's very hard, use an etching press if you can. If you have an aluminum granulated plate, use this too, the same process with cola and oil.
You must roll 3 or 4 time if you want an image with contrast. But do not ink more !
emilivideo 5 months ago
Thank you every body. Muchas gracias.
Yes it's Marseille soap pur vegetal 72%. You can use also a pastel or specific material litho for beguinning, it will be less difficult. Use also an grease etching ink (not ink litho, it's too hard).
emilivideo 5 months ago
wonderful
curlysue68 5 months ago
Fantástico!!
MateosJorge 5 months ago
Maravilloso
pelumli 5 months ago
The soap is savon de Marseille, which is why he puts the new cube in view. It's alkaline, which is why it reacts with the acidic Cola and etches the foil.
inglesconlaguera 5 months ago
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inglesconlaguera 5 months ago
LOVE this! makes me feel a little sick that i spent $20k in art school :)
siandavies83 5 months ago
What type of soap are you using to paint?
LHPrints 5 months ago
I wish it was clear what materials he is using. What is he painting with at start for instance? And the black colour?
SweinRobber 5 months ago
@SweinRobber I was puzzled by this too. The English document on his website describes it as "grease chalk", but I suspect it is actually butter! The black would be "Oil paint or better etching ink. Do not use lithographic ink."
curiousjapan 5 months ago
fantastique
jkirschling 5 months ago
what is purpose of multiple rollings and multiple wipings with sponge?
jumpinwilliboy 5 months ago
@jumpinwilliboy The ink needs to be reset each time. To make even distribution of colour. And then it needs to be wiped in between each inking, because the ink sort of.."forgets" and the ink would roll onto parts its not supposed too. if that makes sense.
10Laurenzo 5 months ago
This is great! Thanks for sharing this video with this inexpensive, non-toxic, very affordable way of litho printing at home. :-)
tofuCKYOU 5 months ago