87022 working 1M44

[iantrack]

5*

[lonelywolf1966]

bring back memories ..... sounds like an old class 85 did from the outside !!!!!! lol

[clocktwibright]

What is the repeated ringing?

[TheMysticEgg]

@clocktwibright AWS indicating green signal ahead.

[Wongie2009]

Holy shit, that was literally pure eargasm! I love 87s!!

[simonspics1]

Awesome! Thanks for sharing!

[Sportswriterguy]

Great video, enjoyed watching that.

[Northernspotter101]

Great video love these class 87s.

[MsThunder40]

Well smart. Proper loco! It must be the ultimate power trip driving that, would love to have a do!

[networksoutheast86]

I just love this video hearing the the hum of the Class 87's, really do miss the old girls on the WCML.

[buzzinheid]

“ML (66B) is no more It burned down in days of yore The bothy is a blackened ruin Where train crews once were lying strewn The foreman’s ghost* it haunts at night Looking for spotters to give a fright E W Schenker owns the shell What they’ll do with it none can tell” (Probably sell it to Barrat for a fat profit although I wouldn’t buy a house built there what with all the diesel and lube oil that’s lying in the ground) *Willie Bruce probably

[MickFix]

I enjoyed the ride, cheers!

[Taurus1047001]

super!

[MonochromeLoco]

A treasured moment, I hope. Excellent stuff. Liked / faved. Keith

[bluedalmatian]

@Intercity82 The AWS 'clear' signal for a green signal. On modern trains its more of an electronic 'ping'

[InterCity82]

What's the little bell that keeps ringing?

[MegaKopite]

Great video,i used to drive 81's 85,86 and the 87's and this brought a lot of great memories flooding back.by far the 87's were the best even better than the 90's which i drove

[flanneryged]

These locomotives certainly were some tool.Over 9 million miles each and over thirty years of flattening Shap and Beatock.Awesome it just went to show what the much derided "British" designer and craftsmen could do when they were given the chance.Did the Raiway system ever have better value for their money???.Perhaps the HST that's all.

[iantrack]

Lovely sound

[MrHaynestrainvideos]

Great of you driving this on this Class 87 electric loco was this doing a passenger or a royal mail service miss them years ago when I use to go on these old sets from London Euston to Birmingham NS and back anyway happy memories. How many times do you have to power up the throttle in the cab so u don't overload the motors.

[bobatporty]

@MrHaynestrainvideos I used to drive these back in the 80's. You had a bank of ampmeters that showed the power going to the motors so you just kept the needles out of the red, but with the 87 you would have wheel slip before hitting the red LOL

[bwhugul]

I may have pressed the Flag button by mistake on my IPod Touch - extremely sorry if this has triggered a problem,

[soundseeker63]

The rheostatic brake fans sound kind of spooky. 90s make a similar noise when slowing too, I wish someone would do a good 90 cab ride as well!

[RM1859]

Fantastic video, some great sounds too! Where was the video shot?

[ML66B]

Between Shieldmuir Royal Mail terminal and just south of Carluke WCML.

[Cazkumali]

@ML66B was it pulling the royal mail train m8?

[Cazkumali]

@ML66B The 87s were AC (Alternating Current) electrics

[reynardbizzar]

What a deafening row,enjoyable nonetheless. Have ridden in an AEM7 from NY to Baltimore and it was as quiet as a church mouse compared to this din.Thanks for sharing.

[ML66B]

The "engine room" door was jammed open just for effect.

[Class37Thrash]

@ML66B well traction motor room :P

[Kromaatikse]

I noticed some fairly loud equipment spooling up when the brakes are used - or possibly when they are released. Would that be the compressors by any chance?

[55022RSG]

@Kromaatikse nope, Rehostatic Breaking systems ;) turns the traction motors in generators and returns electricity back to the grid

[Kromaatikse]

@55022RSG Ah of course, it would be the cooling fans for the resistor grids then. I'd forgotten the 87s had that, as I'm so used to the diesels *not* having it in the UK.

[globalcentralline]

Can someone tell me at about 1:20 is the loco entering a netrual section hence the power cut off for a sec or two?

[dan42912]

Yeah that's correct. The driver runs down the taps before the neutral section, hence him pushing the power lever forward.

[globalcentralline]

Why do nutral sections exist?

[djmadboy2]

@globalcentralline the reson for these is because theres different current in different places tese are used for switching over current.

[EWS60500]

cos its a change of power suply, that meaning, the electricity is comming from a different transformer, hope u understand

[TheNickymcallister]

Yes the power cuts off completly when you go thoure a nuteral section

[steve7395]

Fantastic.....I was lucky enough to have been a secondman at Stonebridge Park on the WCML in the old BR days in the mid 80's...got to drive a few of these under supervision ...awasome...the whine noise from the rheostatic breaks takes me back there lol !...brilliant vid, thanks.

[ac81017]

@steve7395 I don´t suppose you drove a class 81??

[Leylandbasher]

Now that noise has started me calling them "wearwolves!" :D 5*

[trainspotter11]

fantastic

[4chipp]

Driving with the Cab light on John? What a waste of Electricity........Lots of comment from confused people who know not of the notching system........Haven't seen this on your facebook....

[montybazbaz]

So do I  - and I'm a driver !!! Got a cab ride in 87012 doing some road learning - awesome beast. The constanmt noise of the blowers, the sound on the motors, the clicking tap changer, the smell of hot oil, and the overriding feeling of immense power. Wonderful - thanks for posting

[buzzinheid]

Hot oil? Methinks you confuse ye 87 with ye olde 47 forsooth.

[AirwarriorX2]

man i wish i had this job for a day awesome.

[NXEA90001]

great video :)

[cazowazo]

why does he put the tap changer back the forward again nearly to the same place why not just move it forward

[evgen1103]

The throttle has six notches: off, run down, step down, hold, step up, run up. The majority of the throttle movement shown is hold/step up/hold/step up etc. where the driver is probably keeping the ammeters just on the green/yellow threshold to obtain maximum safe acceleration. When slowing for the power section gap and speed restrictions he uses the run down position to let the system automatically and quickly reduce power to the traction motors to nil.

[ML66B]

The needles were being kept at the very top of the yellow section and just below the RED section to achieve maximum safe acceleration!

[buzzinheid]

That sounds like you read it in a manual somewhere - are driver's actually doing what it says in the book now?!

[321loverdesirohater]

yh but then again thats the PROPER way to thrash an 87!:d And brilliant vid!

[simonpilk]

Superb video... great to hear that superb sound again and yes what a steady ride it was too at speed, one the best pieces of such video I have seen. Surprised Turner wasnt in the cab with the 87 working M44.... Nice one though, many thanks.

[crusher19860138]

I used to work on these for nearly 20 years at OxleyDepot,Wolverhampton-i miss them greatly-excellent locos indeed.

[trainkid1]

loverly loco

[chriswilson2]

Once the driver has been given the right away, he moves the power handle, forward gear, releases the brakes and then pushes a button for a few seconds. What is this button? I know a fair bit about train driving but not that. Cheers

[ML66B]

The plunger being pressed is the brake pipe overcharge. I had a brake continuity test shortly before.

[SteffanLlwyd]

I was surprised by how steady the locomotive is....

[ML66B]

86/1, 86/2, 86/4, 86/6 87 & 90 all ride pretty well due to the "flexicoil" springs between the bogie and the loco body.

86/0 & 86/3 were pretty bad but nothing by comparison to an 81 or 85! I have heard that 83's were pretty smooth but have never been on one.

[SteffanLlwyd]

Thanks for the explanation. (I'm guessing you are a driver.) In all the countless thousands of miles I've travelled by train, nothing remotely dangerous ever happened to me, wheras on two wheels getting about is plain scary... so "thanks".

[trainpiczvidz]

HELLFIRE!

[87002theBEAST]

Hya m8..This is an awesome vid...I miss seeing these loco's on the mainline ever since they were taken over by whats supposed to be a train (Debatable) lol... 5* keep it up.

87002theBeast

[scotrains]

Great video, I do love the sound of an 87!

[VoxRail]

Nice!

[desiro5]

wow absoloutley fantastic.

[boomerhgt]

Can you do weelsparks driver and a hand brake turn

[Leetrainz]

Awesome Video mate.

What service was 1M44?

[pendolinofreek]

Postal service. I think it is a Shieldmuir - Willesden. I'm sure ML66B will say otherwise.

[formidable38]

I get to thinking that the driver must spend alot of time watching those ampmeters but i spose it must come with experiance on how much and how often to knotch up! Great vid.

[gleno19891]

Is this shot in australia or england?

[ML66B]

Neither. Motherwell - Scotland.

[woodlandsteve]

That was fantastic, cabbed a few 86's but not an 87

[ay76]

Great video 5 stars.cheers

[cazowazo]

why did it shut down then go again

[Bainsy95]

The driver runs down the power to the traction motors from his main power handle in anticipation of the 'neutral section' ahead. This is a short section of the overhead electrical contact wire which is made up of glass beads. It is necessary to keep the power supplies separate either side of the neutral section because the electrical current probably comes from different feeder stations, and thus could be at different phases. Otherwise, the transformer/tap changer will be severely damaged.

[soundseeker63]

its made of ceramic bars

[iwcawn]

My Lords. Never been in the cab of a seven,but I knew what was going on with the thrash handle. Superb.

[DazrahT]

Excellent video, many thanks.

Never cabbed an 87, as they were harder to scam a ride on! Shame that these machines aren't running any more.

[pendolinofreek]

I forgot to add on my comment i left a few weeks ago, brilliant video, love to see more!

Cheers

[Panarail]

I thought I had seen it all during my years with B.R. What happened here is beyond belief.

[Panarail]

I am very sorry, I seem to have posted the above remark on the wromng clip. This is an excellent piece of history. Thanks for opsting.

[iwcs]

Itching to know which clip caused your outrage?!

[Panarail]

I had been watching the farewell Class 87 clip where the train was eventually cancelled. I could not believe what I was watching. When I posted the comment, for some reason my browser flipped out and took me back here, the previous clip I had watched.

[soundseeker63]

Whats IM44?

[pendolinofreek]

Headcode of the train! It's not an "I" its the number 1. 1 meaning the speed of the train, this is a highspeed intercity/postal train, M meaning its desination (region) 44 giving the ID of the particular service.

[neil87008]

Excellent video JT :)

[mruresm8]

Hi there, fascinating, I only drive diesel electrics, so nice to see how different an electric loco is to drive!! Keep up the hreat work, and thanks for posting, worthy of 5 stars!!

[87006]

This vid is hellfire long live the 7's well done 87006.

[HSTHoward]

NICE!!

[47822]

nice sound of a 87!!!!

[Caledonian86224]

Let's have some 87 action over Beattock and Shap! Top vid :-)

[Freightliner66522]

Excellent vid JT 5* Keep them comming!!

[sidthesyphon]

Good one, JT, takes me back a couple of decades!

Kenny.

[ACBest2007]

Shame about no trains passing...

Good video though! Keep em coming!

[gner125]

why does he keep putting the throttle backwards and forward?

[hellooldchap]

notching up

[calderdepot]

Its how to control the amps to the traction motors. Alsoat about 1m20s power has to come off for a neutral section

[sikkerhead]

Great video ML66B - beats what we use now!

[DD37029]

Top Vid JT, lets get some 57/3 action now lol

[tip2tail]

Fantastic video! Good to see you speeding through Carluke too! ;-)

Mark

[tip2tail]

Fantastic video! Good to see you speeding through Carluke too! ;-)

Mark

[chris9338]

Top Vid , JT , Can we have some in cab 325 next and dont forget 158

[steven37401]

Saw you're post on scot-rail & thought i'd comment on here instead, Fantastic video here of 87022, nice to see some footage of her before she goes away.

5 stars :D.