OK, I understand you used a 4CH handheld controller, but how did it work with a 2CH on-heli controller??? At best you could use the 2 channels out of the 4 available in your hands...
Remember.. I said, a custom 4 channel transmitter and receiver I had designed for a much earlier helicopter, so the original guts and transmitter were discarded.
The control was done with a custom designed 4 channel Infra Red transmitter and receiver as I already explained before, the mechnical parts were done using muscle wire actuators, almost invisible thinner than hair extremely difficult to work wire material used for very lightweight experimental robotics. I am not in a position to disclose the actual design of my muscle wire actuators.
I used my own design 4 chc IR system I made years a go for another heli I designed called the MIA Robin IR. I find out things by going to school, lots of reading and trying things on my own.
Yes, the stock 2 channel toy heli can go in pseudo circles, but it must forced with a bit of nose weight, control is still limited this way, unfortunately, and you will not be able to fly the heli like a real 4 channel heli, unless, you modify electronically and mechanically, like it did. See my ohter video of a tiny MIA Palm-Size (TM) heli that is also flying with my 4 ch IR control board. Do a lookup on More from this user under my name. Have Fun!
Well, the original 2 channel only lets the PiccoZ go up/down and spin left/right (to go forward people put a small weight at the nose) so the extra 2 channels will allow for forward/backward and left/right (not spinning around this time)
I've ordered my PiccoZ the other day, gotta say, I cant wait to chase the cat with it... or would that be the other way round? :D
watch the rotor head and shaper stops turns precision, this is in part due to my own control system I'm employing. I'm doing something else mechanically which I have chosen not to disclose.
I modded wih the same 4CH IR Receiver that I used on this helicopter that I designed back in the 90's, here at this link (chage the \/\/ to a w and the - to a .)
the stock toy has 2 channels, very easy to work for someone not familiar with RC helis, hold throttle and let it float, the drawback is lack of control,and precision, so I used a 4 ch IR controller that I used on some larger helis I designed back in 1996 and also used on my own 6" rotor MIA Palm-Size(TM) helis.The difference is obvious, I hope, when you watch my video compared to the original product ad and demo videos.
Not sure what you mean by needles? the stability is a result of a complete redesign I did of the heli mechanics, using rotor head parts from one of my own 2001 helis called the MIA House FLY. I removed the tail fins because the tail rotor motor wires broke and there was no way for a fix wthout ruining the original boom so in the video the tail section is also new but of a different length.
I used carbon tubing 2mm, but anything for boom under .3 grams should work fine. You can even use a piece of bamboo stick sanded down to remove weight.
great idea..very cool..
GercekWahrheit 3 years ago
OK, I understand you used a 4CH handheld controller, but how did it work with a 2CH on-heli controller??? At best you could use the 2 channels out of the 4 available in your hands...
smitiltube 4 years ago
Remember.. I said, a custom 4 channel transmitter and receiver I had designed for a much earlier helicopter, so the original guts and transmitter were discarded.
MarioIArguello 3 years ago
nice vids nice work on the helicopters whish i had the brains too do that 2 mine
dannysmif 4 years ago
please tell me how you did that it was soooooo kool plz plz
KingCrackPotJR 4 years ago
The control was done with a custom designed 4 channel Infra Red transmitter and receiver as I already explained before, the mechnical parts were done using muscle wire actuators, almost invisible thinner than hair extremely difficult to work wire material used for very lightweight experimental robotics. I am not in a position to disclose the actual design of my muscle wire actuators.
MarioIArguello 4 years ago
How do u make it a 4CH, it looks great, how did u find out???
TheEternalHamster 4 years ago
I used my own design 4 chc IR system I made years a go for another heli I designed called the MIA Robin IR. I find out things by going to school, lots of reading and trying things on my own.
MarioIArguello 4 years ago
Yes, the stock 2 channel toy heli can go in pseudo circles, but it must forced with a bit of nose weight, control is still limited this way, unfortunately, and you will not be able to fly the heli like a real 4 channel heli, unless, you modify electronically and mechanically, like it did. See my ohter video of a tiny MIA Palm-Size (TM) heli that is also flying with my 4 ch IR control board. Do a lookup on More from this user under my name. Have Fun!
MarioIArguello 4 years ago
So you are saying that you added servos and a new receiver / mixer/ gyro?
Jefferydonkeith 5 years ago
bahahaha oh i love it what the hell is that!!!
what does each channel on the ir do then?
rsymes2k 5 years ago
Well, the original 2 channel only lets the PiccoZ go up/down and spin left/right (to go forward people put a small weight at the nose) so the extra 2 channels will allow for forward/backward and left/right (not spinning around this time)
I've ordered my PiccoZ the other day, gotta say, I cant wait to chase the cat with it... or would that be the other way round? :D
wezwee 5 years ago
other way around :)
Trust me lol ive gone through 4 of em already...cats...pffft
canadaboy1993 4 years ago
ah ok :) my piccoz can fly fast circuts like that when i add quite alot of weight on the front
but i dont think it turns very quick like your example
puggster 5 years ago
it still flys like the old piccoz if you add weight to the front sorry but yours just looks painted with cocktail stick poking out lol
if its 4ch why is it only going forward? why not show its full potential like back/forward/left/right
it would make it much more interesting to watch
puggster 5 years ago
watch the rotor head and shaper stops turns precision, this is in part due to my own control system I'm employing. I'm doing something else mechanically which I have chosen not to disclose.
You do not have this with the stock toy.
MarioIArguello 5 years ago
b/c it does not have 4 channels and if it does it don't work!
Jefferydonkeith 5 years ago
I modded wih the same 4CH IR Receiver that I used on this helicopter that I designed back in the 90's, here at this link (chage the \/\/ to a w and the - to a .)
\/\/ \/\/ \/\/-gryffinaero- com/models/ffpages/ffgallery/arguello/irchopper.html
The PiccoZ toy maker decided to make it with only 2 channels for simplicity and to keep cost down. I am using 4 channels for more precise control.
MarioIArguello 4 years ago
Thanks Mario I will look for some carbon tubing. I guess I could get it at a hobby shop
bharned3 5 years ago
whats the difference in channels? like the stock picoo z has three right? whats the diff
blatafreak 5 years ago
the stock toy has 2 channels, very easy to work for someone not familiar with RC helis, hold throttle and let it float, the drawback is lack of control,and precision, so I used a 4 ch IR controller that I used on some larger helis I designed back in 1996 and also used on my own 6" rotor MIA Palm-Size(TM) helis.The difference is obvious, I hope, when you watch my video compared to the original product ad and demo videos.
MarioIArguello 5 years ago
kool!
what kind of needles(?) did you use? pretty stable flight! did i saw right you took away the plastic from the tail?
thx for answer
jimmydnmk 5 years ago
Not sure what you mean by needles? the stability is a result of a complete redesign I did of the heli mechanics, using rotor head parts from one of my own 2001 helis called the MIA House FLY. I removed the tail fins because the tail rotor motor wires broke and there was no way for a fix wthout ruining the original boom so in the video the tail section is also new but of a different length.
MarioIArguello 5 years ago
My tail wires also broke. What piece did you get to replace the boom. I used a piece of aluminum but I think it is too heavy
bharned3 5 years ago
I used carbon tubing 2mm, but anything for boom under .3 grams should work fine. You can even use a piece of bamboo stick sanded down to remove weight.
MarioIArguello 5 years ago