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  • great idea..very cool..

  • OK, I understand you used a 4CH handheld controller, but how did it work with a 2CH on-heli controller??? At best you could use the 2 channels out of the 4 available in your hands...

  • Remember.. I said, a custom 4 channel transmitter and receiver I had designed for a much earlier helicopter, so the original guts and transmitter were discarded.

  • nice vids nice work on the helicopters whish i had the brains too do that 2 mine

  • please tell me how you did that it was soooooo kool plz plz

  • The control was done with a custom designed 4 channel Infra Red transmitter and receiver as I already explained before, the mechnical parts were done using muscle wire actuators, almost invisible thinner than hair extremely difficult to work wire material used for very lightweight experimental robotics. I am not in a position to disclose the actual design of my muscle wire actuators.

  • How do u make it a 4CH, it looks great, how did u find out???

  • I used my own design 4 chc IR system I made years a go for another heli I designed called the MIA Robin IR. I find out things by going to school, lots of reading and trying things on my own.

  • Yes, the stock 2 channel toy heli can go in pseudo circles, but it must forced with a bit of nose weight, control is still limited this way, unfortunately, and you will not be able to fly the heli like a real 4 channel heli, unless, you modify electronically and mechanically, like it did. See my ohter video of a tiny MIA Palm-Size (TM) heli that is also flying with my 4 ch IR control board. Do a lookup on More from this user under my name. Have Fun!

  • So you are saying that you added servos and a new receiver / mixer/ gyro?

  • bahahaha oh i love it what the hell is that!!!

    what does each channel on the ir do then?

  • Well, the original 2 channel only lets the PiccoZ go up/down and spin left/right (to go forward people put a small weight at the nose) so the extra 2 channels will allow for forward/backward and left/right (not spinning around this time)

    I've ordered my PiccoZ the other day, gotta say, I cant wait to chase the cat with it... or would that be the other way round? :D

  • other way around :)

    Trust me lol ive gone through 4 of em already...cats...pffft

  • ah ok :) my piccoz can fly fast circuts like that when i add quite alot of weight on the front

    but i dont think it turns very quick like your example

  • it still flys like the old piccoz if you add weight to the front sorry but yours just looks painted with cocktail stick poking out lol

    if its 4ch why is it only going forward? why not show its full potential like back/forward/left/right

    it would make it much more interesting to watch

  • watch the rotor head and shaper stops turns precision, this is in part due to my own control system I'm employing. I'm doing something else mechanically which I have chosen not to disclose.

    You do not have this with the stock toy.

  • b/c it does not have 4 channels and if it does it don't work!

  • I modded wih the same 4CH IR Receiver that I used on this helicopter that I designed back in the 90's, here at this link (chage the \/\/ to a w and the - to a .)

    \/\/ \/\/ \/\/-gryffinaero- com/models/ffpages/ffgallery/a­rguello/irchopper.html

    The PiccoZ toy maker decided to make it with only 2 channels for simplicity and to keep cost down. I am using 4 channels for more precise control.

  • Thanks Mario I will look for some carbon tubing. I guess I could get it at a hobby shop

  • whats the difference in channels? like the stock picoo z has three right? whats the diff

  • the stock toy has 2 channels, very easy to work for someone not familiar with RC helis, hold throttle and let it float, the drawback is lack of control,and precision, so I used a 4 ch IR controller that I used on some larger helis I designed back in 1996 and also used on my own 6" rotor MIA Palm-Size(TM) helis.The difference is obvious, I hope, when you watch my video compared to the original product ad and demo videos.

  • kool!

    what kind of needles(?) did you use? pretty stable flight! did i saw right you took away the plastic from the tail?

    thx for answer

  • Not sure what you mean by needles? the stability is a result of a complete redesign I did of the heli mechanics, using rotor head parts from one of my own 2001 helis called the MIA House FLY. I removed the tail fins because the tail rotor motor wires broke and there was no way for a fix wthout ruining the original boom so in the video the tail section is also new but of a different length.

  • My tail wires also broke. What piece did you get to replace the boom. I used a piece of aluminum but I think it is too heavy

  • I used carbon tubing 2mm, but anything for boom under .3 grams should work fine. You can even use a piece of bamboo stick sanded down to remove weight.

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