WHDH-TV/Channel 5 Red Sox special 1967

[kevin62387]

Derek Jeter and the NY Yankees never had and never will have a seson like Yaz and the '67 Sox. Derek never came close to a Triple Crown or MVP award.

[giles422]

do you have the whole program???

[MickeyMorandini1]

The closest thing to this in my generation in my 06 Tigers and the 07 Rockies. and the 08 Tampa team. That Rockies team in 07 will always stand out especially.

It gives me chills. It is wonderful when a team and its fans become one. Baseball is a sport like no other because you feel like you are along for the ride. Day after day !

[ashland1977]

Rest in Peace Dick Williams.

[BSlash24]

just use a cell phone! ..love that HUGE phone though.

[BeatleJim55]

The 1967 Red Sox saved baseball in Boston...

[SuperDurango99]

you know willis...i do think he would be alive and possibly be a hall of famer...if he never got beaned like that ,it's possible that blood clots formed and caused the attack..he did play and well for a year or so ..but the vision troubles returned ...by the way i was a fan of his also....and Im yankee fan...r.i.p. tony c

[willisapril]

does anyone know how Tony C died ? and if his death was related to what happened to him in "67"

[SuperDurango99]

: Tony C. Died at age 45 of Kidney Failure after being in ill heath following a heart attack that caused brain damage in 1982...a full obituary can be found at the following site

[SuperDurango99]

@SuperDurango99 oops

[SuperDurango99]

: Tony C. Died at age 45 of Kidney Failure after being in ill heath following a heart attack that caused brain damage in 1982...a full obituary can be found at the following site ..The Deadball Era.com

[SuperDurango99]

: Tony C. Died at age 45 of Kidney Failure after being in ill heath following a heart attack that caused brain damage in 1982...a full obituary can be found at the following site ..The Deadball era

[SuperDurango99]

: Tony C. Died at age 45 of Kidney Failure after being in ill heath following a heart attack that caused brain damage in 1982.

[SuperDurango99]

Tony C. Died at age 45 of Kidney Failure after being in ill heath following a heart attack that caused brain damage in 1982.

[willisapril]

@SuperDurango99 Thanx. I'm bad with words but what I'm trying to ask is lets say he never got hit by that pitch in 67 do you think he would still be alive today ? its rare at 37 to have a heart attack. because he did play again after getting hit although he was never the same so I'm thinking the hit might have done more damage to his health overall. his baseball career was before my time but I'm a big admirer of his

[EeVvAaNn3]

Only 6 sub-.500 seasons since '67

[giles422]

screw excerpts! Post the complete show, if you have it. This is too precious!

AND I"M A YANKEE FAN

all the best

[bakerandbaker1]

What an intro for a local TV station in 1967!

[thebrigstjohn]

"and then one night, the kid in right lay sprawling in the dirt..."

43 yrs ago today tony c was hit in the face by a jack hamilton fastball....what a career path he was on...sad, sad, sad...

[altfactor]

"The Impossible Dream" was originally a radio documentary, but positive reviews and listener feedback resulted in a TV version, using the same script as the radio version (with some new narration written since the radio version was 45 minutes and the TV version an hour).

[Rollie1961]

"And he makes a TREMENDOUS catch!" - Ken Coleman

[joedits1]

That's 1967 AL Rookie of the Year, and future 7-time batting champion Rod Carew at 4:41.

[jaytf123]

Williams only real mistake was starting Lonborg on two days rest. He had never done it. It should have been Lee Stange or Jose Santiago who had at least 3 or 4 days rest. I think Gary Bell their second best starter pitched in relief in game 6 so they couldn't start him.

[geocgeo]

Santiago wasn't really a starter even though he pitched that great 2-1 game that the Sox lost.He was used in middle relief most of the 1967 season.

Lee Stange was 8-10 that year so Dick Williams was going with his best.starter at the time. He felt that the Red Sox best chance to win that game was with Jim Lonborg..

The e.r.a.'s were a lot lower back then because the pitching mound was much higher.

[jaytf123]

Actually the pitching mounds were raised in 68 and that was the year Bob Gibson's ERA was 1.12and Denny McClain won 31 games . Luis Tiant's ERA was like 1.60. There was no offense that year Yaz won the betting title at .301. They lowered the mound in 69 where it's the same as today. I remember 67, I was 10 during the W.S.

[geocgeo]

@jaytf123 I know the piching mound was not lowered until 1969.The change was voted in December of 1968. It was more than the mound that made such a change.The strike zone was also changed and just F.Y.I. the top 5 hitters in the N.L. in 1967 hit for pretty good averages it was just the American League where the leaders had such low B.A.'s in 1967.

N.L. leaders in 1967

1. Roberto Clemente .357

2. Bob Johnson .348

3. Tony Gonzalez .339

4. Matty Alou .338

5. Curt Flood .335

[mitjazz]

@geocgeo you mean 68 - yaz won the batting title with a 301 avg

[geocgeo]

@mitjazz

1967 Carl Yastrzemski, Boston .326

1968 Carl Yastrzemski, Boston .301

Yaz won the American League batting title in 1967 and 1968.

[mitjazz]

@mitjazz yes i know i think i was replying to someone else - sorry

[EdwardWLynn]

The pitching mounds were raised in 1962 because commissioner Ford Frick didn't like these modern players hitting homer like his friend, Babe Ruth, who, of course, had never had to play any night games or bat against any black pitchers. But in a typical fit of crotchety old man attitude, Frick couldn't stand that people not see things as being better in his days.

The mound was lowered back to where it had been before the 1969 season. It was high from '62 to'68.

[jaytf123]

1967 may have saved baseball in Boston. Tom Yawkey wanted a new stadium and threatened to leave. The crazy thing is that while the fans mobbed the field the Red Sox had not clinched the pennant yet. The Tigers had beaten the Angels in the first game of a double-header and had the Tigers won the second game, there would have been a one game playoff between the Sox and Tigers. Luckily the Angels beat the Tigers to clinch the pennant for the Sox, about two or three hours later.

[MikeHL78]

@jaytf123 1967 DID save baseball in Boston. Fenway had been more than half-empty for an average home game since Ted Williams hung it up, and with no sizable TV revenue to speak of, you had to survive on what you made at the gate and on radio.

[frankd1965]

@jaytf123 The YAZ man(carl Yaztrimsky) won the triple crown and a legendary BoSox player

[beatlejim64]

They hadn't won since 1946...they sucked

...until 1967.....100 to 1 at the beginning of the season..then they win the pennent on the last day of the season...YAZ won the MVP and is the last man to with the Triple Crown..and Jim Lonborg won the Cy Young...and Dick Williams was named manager of the year!!!!

[geocgeo]

Jiltedin2007-Were you a Red Sox fan AND a Lakers fan back then? That's what you claim to be on other videos a Red Sox fan and a LA Lakers fan...

Jiltedin2007 the classic BANDWAGONER

[swami1]

Anyone know when this show was broadcast?

[Jiltedin2007]

1967, the year they lost to the St. Louis Cardinals in the World Series.

Bob Gibson was too good that year, and had the Red Sox in shackles!

[geocgeo]

Gibson had more than the Red Sox in shackles. Bob Gibson was too good in 1968 striking out 17 Detroit Tigers in one game of the 1968 World Series the major league record for a World Series game. That record still stands after more than 40 years. He was the main reason they lowered the pitching mound. His 1968 E.R.A. was an incredible 1.12

[Jiltedin2007]

I know, then all of a sudden, everything just fell apart for St. Louis in the World Series, and lost to the Detroit Tigers in 7 Games. The last 2 Games in St. Louis.

[Jiltedin2007]

What did Bob Gibson win in 1969? In 1969, the Mets won the World Series. When I was saying "Falling Apart", if my memory served me correct, the Cardinals were up 3-1 in the Series, and all of a sudden, they couldn't close out the Tigers, like those Yankee Asshole couldn't have finished in the 2004 ALCS.

Yes those Tigers had Hall of Famer Al Kaline on that team, and Catcher Bill Freehan. Along with Mickey Lolich and Denny McClain, and deservingly so the Tigers were the 1968 World Champions.

[211north]

1.12 is a totally unbelievable ERA, but what is more unbelivable is how you can possibly lose 9 games with that ERA (as Gibson did in '68)--must have been a lot of 1-0 games!!

[Scoclamor]

@geocgeo McClains was 1.96 over in the AL. Then Tiant was something 1.67...pitching! Drysdale had six straight shutouts, 58 2/3 scoreless innings and 8 shutouts overall. But just 14 wins?

[dwtsf]

Thanks so much for this great post!

I'm a Giants fan, but collected tapes on all teams. Had the album from Fleetwood Records. Love this stuff!!!

[DuckRadioLccc]

R.I.P., Ken Coleman and Casey Coleman.

[geocgeo]

I was at game 1 of the World Series and saw Jose Santiago pitch his heart out. What a shame a 21 year old kid lose to St Louis 2-1; The only run the Red Sox scored Santago the pitcher hit a home run. He had the misfortune of being matched up against Bob Gibson 1 of the all time great pichers in baseball.

[WhiteBoy41]

At 2:40 check out Yaz's catch !!! WoW !! #8 Name a better Left Fielder,

[likepatsandGTOs]

Great posting...thanks alot! Even the commercials were fun to watch. What a year to be a kid back then...I was 10.

[Paulewog123]

Great post....I was 10 also. We even had that same beige phone in the house. Lot's of fun and great memories.

[RELubber]

Two wonderful broadcasters from an era of class and professionalism.

They're both missed.

[beastsunleashed]

i remember a line from the impossible dream "rohr winds here it comes, fly ball to deep left yastrzemski is going hard way back way back and he dives and makes a trememendous catch!!!" :)

[VintageTelevision]

I think that call was made by Ken Coleman on WHDH-AM.

[beastsunleashed]

it was

[jaytf123]

I think that was Joe Garagiola on the Yankees station. Ken Coleman did the radio that day for the Sox.

[rustyquoin]

I'm going to get an extension phone from New England Telephone and some Black Label beer. Aside from that, thanks for the memories Vintage Television.

[beastsunleashed]

its true but yaz made a great catch when tom tresh hit a fly ball

[swami1]

Yup. Lonborg on 4 days rest would have been better than Lonborg on 2 days rest.

[vitoduval]

Congrats to Dick Williams on his upcoming HOF induction, did the Boston pitcher get a no hitter in that game? Yaz needed a Manny and Big Papi to win that World Series.

[bjdon99]

They could have used some of the latino and black players they have now, but Mr. Yawkey didn't really want too many of them, so they were in the NL playing for St. Louis.

[Andolini99]

No, Elston Howard singled with two out in the ninth. He was traded to the Sox later that season and played in the Series!

[rockerduff1231]

why havent i seen that yastrzemski catch before that should be on best damn list

[gymnastix]

You may buy it on DVD.

[rockerduff1231]

that 1 handed grab ive never seen before that was a fucking awesome play?!?!

[wfmrpd]

Today (4/24/08), we learned Don Gillis passed away the night before. Rest in peace, Don.

[kdm59]

On the intor and outro voice over, that's the Hall of Fame Radio voice of the Boston Bruins, Bob Wilson. There's no mistaking that set of pipes. The late Jess Cain did sing the famous "Carl Yastremzki" song, though.

[jaytf123]

Wasn't it Bob Wilson who was accused of saying"hit the bleeping post". I heard it's an urban legend. Don Earle a one time Bruins announcer was also rumored to have said that. A Boston sports book I read said nobody actually said it-just an urban legend.

[n1uvu]

sounds like Jess Cain on the vo's .RIP

[ericcollins81]

i'm glad to see dick williams finally go to the hall of fame what he did for that 67 ball club and the a's in 72and 73 he was a great manager taking teams from nothing to something

[adater]

Great video, but boy, was that writing overly melodramatic.

[TimL2005]

This is the first time I have seen Ken Coleman on a telecast..He had just arrived in Boston from Cleveland, where he had been from 1953-66 as sports anchor and TV Play By Play voice of the Browns and Indians..

[hootenhtn]

Also noteworthy, we have Mel Parnell's TV call of Yaz's catch from that Bill Rohr 1 hitter. On the scoped, we have Ken Coleman's famous radio call dubbed over Parnell's original TV audio.

[kylebook]

Actually, that Joe Garagiola who made the call of Yaz's catch. He was a colorcaster for the Yankees before his days on the NBC Game Of The Week.

[hootenhtn]

No you are wrong. It is Mel Parnell that made the call on the yaz Rohr catch on WHDH-TV. Ken Coleman made the famous radio call on WHDH-AM. The common scoped version takes the WHDH TV video, and dubs Coleman's truly classic radio call over it. Mel Parnell's voice DOES sound very much like Joe G.'s.

[kylebook]

Sorry, but I am afraid that is not correct. The game was telecast by WPIX-TV, as this was the Opening Day game at Yankee Stadium 1n 1967. At 2:52 of this video, you will Gariagola say: "Here is the PIX Playback".

This Friday afternoon game was not televised in New England by WHDH-TV.

[gymnastix]

Actually, the radio play-by-play on the old WHDH radio (850AM) was done by Ned Martin--Coleman did the TV play-by-play on the old WHDH-TV (Channel 5). It is my recollection that it was Martin who uttered the famous "There's pandemonium on the field" line. The triumvirate of WHDH Red Sox coverage after that, for a few years was Coleman (TV), Martin (radio) & Johnny Pesky doing color for both.

[hootenhtn]

I have done some more research on this and I am afraid that you are incorrect. Coleman + Martin were in the radio booth when Coleman's classic call was made. This Friday afternoon game was not broadcast in Boston. It was televised in New York on WPIX TV. Joe G made the only TV call. When the TV version of "The Impossible Dream" was aired by WHDH TV, it was exactly as it is here, using Joe the G. call.

[hootenhtn]

A 2nd video version was made on 16mm. It is this color washed edition which appears on the recently issued "Impossible To Forget" DVD set. Coleman's radio call is dubbed over the original Joe G TV call. Coleman also recreated his original radio commentary for the remainder of the 9th, and in this now commercially released edition, it too is dubbed over the Joe G. original. It is indeed very evident that Coleman has faked it.

[jaytf123]

Don't forget Mel Parnell who made the final call of the pop up because Ken Coleman was in the locker room waiting and Ned Martin did the radio call "it's looped toward shortsop Petrocelli's back he's got it the Red Sox win"

[hootenhtn]

Not only is the video quality far superior to the scoped version, the portions with Ken Coleman and Don Gillis are indeed different takes than what we see on that more common scoped edition. In addition, we do not see the large blue Red Sox hat behind them on the scope. Nor do we see the listings of the sponsers at the end. Who posted this, and how on earth did you get your hands on what are seemingly original reel to reel videotape sources!!!

[wmbrown6]

A hint of the "5" logo in that period can be seen in the ending slide card.

[Rick02115]

it's not like it used to be. god damned red sox fans with pink hats, outrageous priced seats, and advertisements everywhere. it's no fun now that they've won a world series. i liked the old days of frustration and misery much better. oh, and tell your kids to get off my lawn.

[gymnastix]

I agree--pink hats are absurd, so are the black & camouflage ones. There should be only one cap design--navy blue & red, period! People who were never baseball fans are now so because it's become chic--I mean, "Gay Day" at Fenway? C'mon. Fenway and the Red Sox are just another attraction like Disney World.

[kylebook]

The quality of this video is far superior to that on the 2-DVD "Impossible Dream" DVD set. That one looks as if it came off a color kinescope. This one looks like it came directly from the 2" video master.

Bravo!

[dgendvil]

Most on these clips are on camera, not film.

[wmbrown6]

Am I correct in assuming that at this point, WHDH (Mk. I) used RCA TK-41 class cameras - or had they upgraded to TK-42 or 43 already? Or if not that kind of camera, then what?

[wmbrown6]

I've since found out that WHDH acquired TK-43 cameras just in time for the 1967 baseball season; four TK-43's were in service at Fenway Park. Just want to know if there were TK-43's at their studios then.

[AutisticPsycho]

It's funny, the New England Telephone commerical seems so early 1960s, as opposed to 1967.

[AutisticPsycho]

Also, I should say. Good old Western Electric phones.

And of course, we lost it again and again, but as "Section 9, Row 12, seats 1 & 2" said, they'll be back again, and we came back... nearly 50 years later.

[wmbrown6]

The "modern" Bell System logo first came out, I believe, around late 1969.

But this does look like one of the few surviving remnants of the "old" Channel 5 before original owners the Boston Herald-Traveler lost their license and WCVB took over the spot.

[USAGiant]

As a Yankee fan i give the Red Sox for one thing. they are the most loyal fans in MLB hands down.

The 1967 Impossible dream team began the modern era of fans of playoff & world series bound teams getting playoff fever.

Nice Clip VintageTV.

If anybody has 'live clips' of the 1975 world series' (preferably game 6)with the oringal NBC-TV live coverage it would be appreicated? Thanks

Thanks.

[NEPatriot]

With an original commercial for what would later become SNET, later SBC.

And did you hear the term PIX playback--that was of course WPIX, which aired the Yankees at the time. And many say this 1967 team began what is known as Red Sox Nation.