This scene: confrontation meeting between the 2 queens Elisabeth I and Mary Stewart NEVER HAPPENED THEY NEVER MET FACE TO FACE; they were cousins but they lived completely different lives apart. There is no historical evidence whatsoever to prove that they met face to face. Most historical fiction novels and films and including an Italian opera by Donizetti insist on having the queens insult one another, Mary calling Elisabeth a "bastard" and Elisabeth calling Mary a "whore".
and of COURSE Glenda wins...Vanessa isnt remotely in her league....As for Cate Blanchett, she isnt fit to wash Jackson's knickers....Glenda is by a long way the best ever performer of Elizabeth. Even Bette Davis pales in comparison. GLENDA IS ELIZABETH! in this and ELIZABETH R the series! Redgrave's line readings are all over the place....AS for Redgrave as Elizabeth in Anonymous, it was frankly a travesty she played her like an Alzheimers ridden Margaret Thatcher...which is unforgiveable....
This movie was amazing, Glenda is my favorite Elizabeth, I love Cate Blanchett-but Glenda seems Elizabeth incarnated and Redgrave was wonderful as Mary.
Some good acting here; I remember Mary Queen of Scots. Her hair was long black and she was abrupt, a true Queen. I was only a boy then. Her subjects where cheering her as she stood on the balcony looking down on them. She said something sharp to them and came in from the balcony full of confidence slammed the shutters closed. She was a magnificent Queen. But that is all I remember about her.
@stevalianarbone What??? You "remember Mary Queen of Scots" who lived from 1542 to 1587 ? It's the year 2012 and you're saying you remember being a boy over 400 years ago?? Are you on drugs or are you a vampire who lives for centuries or a time traveler?
@9razzler9 I can't either I've always loved Ms Redgrave's work and most of the younger generation don't give actresses like her the respect they deserve
the two queens never met, of course, and the script clogs along like a blocked artery. but both actresses are masters of their art - and jackson's tv incarnation of elizabeth remains the best ever small-screen performance in england or anywhere else.
Glenda Jackson actually seems like she could be the daughter of Genevieve Bujold and Richard Burton. She has Bujold's exact profile, and Burton's voice. Amazing!
@Messylin - I'm absolutely amazed you said that (about the Bujold & Jackson comparison) because I also have always thought these two look quite alike; also the way they talk.
@MaiU2b It's funny, I agree completely that Jackson & Bujold look alike. Maybe it has to do with how they were made up and dressed up to play queens of England?
I find it very funny that Mary said, that she siad "my son will rule in time" funny that is just if not what Anne B said about Elizebeth "What ever my fate my be, My Elizebeth will be Queen, more so then any bastard sons you bear" when she said that to Henry in "A Thousand" something LOL.
I could only watch the first 30 minutes of this film because this movie-and all the other historical British films ("A Man For All Seasons, "Anne of The Thousand Days", "Shakespere in Love") bored the hell into me. Exhibit A of why the British are the most craziest people in the world.
@EricandDish Clearly, you should stick to watching Fast and the Furious & Twilight. Perhaps that can keep your attention span long enough. The movies you mentioned are not historical British Films. They are BASED on historical information, but like many films the creators took quite a liberty in the plot.Ex: Mary and Elizabeth never met face to face. Shakespeare in Love is not based on history at all-it is pure fiction. Exhibit A of why you should not post here if you cant keep up!
@criznueve Clearly you should have seen that the person (erica) really was being sarcastic. And she/he is not the only one who feels this way. I for one love Fast and the Furious and Twilight, though it makes me an idiot I understand, but I so do enjoy watching these movies. :) Even though 99% of them are not at all accurate. In fact, we shall never truly know, for we were not there. History has a wonderful and mysterious side that one can only have excruciating pleasure in seeking.
This movie has already been released on DVD! I can't believe you've not got one already if you're such a fan. It's available on Amazon.com & eBay, great price. The picture (widescreen) and the soundtrack are simply magnificent. The DVD-set has two great films in one box (get 2 for the price of one); "Mary, Queen of Scots" and also "Anne of the Thousand Days" with Geneviève Bujold, whose line delivery reminds me of Glenda Jackson. She played Anne Bolyne with Richard Burton as Henry VIII.
Mary Queen of Scots is my favorite movie - both Glenda Jackson & Vanessa Redgrave are magnificent - have tried to find this movie to purchase but so far have had no luck. Thankyou so much for putting this segment on U Tube.
I do enjoy Redgrave's acting, but Jackson (as I'm fairly certain) really brought herself forth into the world of acting and politics from a presumably working-class background (her father was a bricklayer), as Redgrave was an actress her own, but she also had patronage/nepotism with her familial lineage...
Also uncanny resemblances (at least in my opinion), it's rather unsettling:
Glenda Jackson to Cate Blanchett, and Vanessa Redgrave to daughter Joely Richardson (voice AND appearance)
Glenda Jackson may have a notable political career but I still think it was a great loss to theater (in all its forms) when she decided not to act anymore.
This movie is so underrated. Vanessa Redgrave absolutely nailed this role, emboding the spirit of Mary. After watching the movie one feels like they know who Mary was, and what a special person she was. A tough role to play because Mary was a very complex woman. Unlike Elizabeth, she succumbed to her desires as she fell in and out of love, heart always ruling over her head. Perhaps a smarter woman than history has allowed, after all, her son, James I, did get the throne just as she had wished.
LOL! "Pampered woman" is a great description of Mary. She never got it through her thick head that being a queen meant having duties as well as power.
She chose (twice) to marry for lust instead of taking a husband who would have helped her hold her power and rule her country.
They are both fantastic actresses! I do sometimes wonder what it would have been like had Mary and Elizabeth actually met. I bet it would probably have turned out quite like this LOL.
It's such a pleasure to listen to Glenda Jackson's impeccable diction. She's like a female Olivier, and Redgrave is like a female Brando - so they have a perfect and thrillingly wonderful acting chemistry.
This movie was highly critiziced for depicting a meeting that never happened. However, every word in the conversation was actually said through letters sent via the french ambassador to each other. Instead of the endless shooting of scenes of both Queens reading letters (like it was done in Elizabeth R) they choose to do one single ficticious dialoge. Unfortunate choice.
I understand the feeling of folks putting great importance on historical accuracy. Yet you're still absolutely right on about the inefficiency of shooting two queens reading letters. I think people nowadays can realize inaccuracies in a drama. For historical accuracy, they may choose a documentary on History Channel. People who love and adore this film would rather see this scene the way it is, Glenda versus Vanesssa...unleashing their acting prowess at each other in the same scene. ;-)
Well then help me fill in the blank here (with your nice articulation)..."Render drama to things that are history's...and they shall..." (get soap opera?...etc, etc) ;-)
HAHAHA, I'm a french/spanish speaker, my english is anything but articulate, but thanks if you meant it as a complement and thanks again if you didn't. it was a copy/paste with little modifications that just happened to englobe my views in this matters. I appologize if it came across the wrong way. I like your video, this is the only scene that makes me be thankful for licenses taken in history based movies. It tops them all.
But I don't disagree with the movies choice, I said it was unfortunate because it was the main sourse of criticism (including both actresses). One of Jackson's main request when doing Elizabeth R was total and abssolute historic accuracy, and today her portray of Elizabeth I in that production is regarded as the best ever. However, you do have a valid point, Elizabeth: The Golden Age, choose not to portray the meeting due to the fact that most people know it never happened.
Thank you so much for your nice contribution with interesting stuff behind the scenes. I really appreciate that. I love Elizabeth R too (I'm so glad the whole series already came out on DVDs).
You might find interesting that Glenda Jackson's passion for portraying an accurate depiction of queen elizabeth in 1971 went as far as to shave all her real hair so she could wear the wigs made for her just as the real elizabeth did. Some gowns were so heavy that she had to do the scenes sitting down and yet she refused to have them made lighter. I think Elizabeth R proves that a production can be accurate and still provide a great acting for the audience.
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This scene: confrontation meeting between the 2 queens Elisabeth I and Mary Stewart NEVER HAPPENED THEY NEVER MET FACE TO FACE; they were cousins but they lived completely different lives apart. There is no historical evidence whatsoever to prove that they met face to face. Most historical fiction novels and films and including an Italian opera by Donizetti insist on having the queens insult one another, Mary calling Elisabeth a "bastard" and Elisabeth calling Mary a "whore".
TheAmericanEvita 3 weeks ago
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TheAmericanEvita 3 weeks ago
and of COURSE Glenda wins...Vanessa isnt remotely in her league....As for Cate Blanchett, she isnt fit to wash Jackson's knickers....Glenda is by a long way the best ever performer of Elizabeth. Even Bette Davis pales in comparison. GLENDA IS ELIZABETH! in this and ELIZABETH R the series! Redgrave's line readings are all over the place....AS for Redgrave as Elizabeth in Anonymous, it was frankly a travesty she played her like an Alzheimers ridden Margaret Thatcher...which is unforgiveable....
jaccusefashion 1 month ago
This movie was amazing, Glenda is my favorite Elizabeth, I love Cate Blanchett-but Glenda seems Elizabeth incarnated and Redgrave was wonderful as Mary.
marumae 1 month ago
Some good acting here; I remember Mary Queen of Scots. Her hair was long black and she was abrupt, a true Queen. I was only a boy then. Her subjects where cheering her as she stood on the balcony looking down on them. She said something sharp to them and came in from the balcony full of confidence slammed the shutters closed. She was a magnificent Queen. But that is all I remember about her.
stevalianarbone 4 months ago
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@stevalianarbone What??? You "remember Mary Queen of Scots" who lived from 1542 to 1587 ? It's the year 2012 and you're saying you remember being a boy over 400 years ago?? Are you on drugs or are you a vampire who lives for centuries or a time traveler?
TheAmericanEvita 3 weeks ago
wow! what a great movie! damn i wish i can find it!
ranka35 6 months ago
@ranka35 - Already on DVD under $10 (or you can rent), comes as a set of 2 DVDs, with another great film "Anne of the Thousand Days".
MaiU2b 6 months ago
@MaiU2b cool thanks! glenda did a marvious job as queen elizabeth but so did cate blanchette!
ranka35 6 months ago
@ranka35 I got this movie from torrent
babuybabuyan 5 months ago
@9razzler9 I can't either I've always loved Ms Redgrave's work and most of the younger generation don't give actresses like her the respect they deserve
CalifoniaGirl 7 months ago
can't wait for vanessa redgraves to portray elizabeth in 'anonymous'
9razzler9 7 months ago
What a scene. I can't believe Redgrave didn't get an Oscar for this role.
sethaus75 8 months ago
the two queens never met, of course, and the script clogs along like a blocked artery. but both actresses are masters of their art - and jackson's tv incarnation of elizabeth remains the best ever small-screen performance in england or anywhere else.
uclrichard 8 months ago
Glenda Jackson and Vanessa redgrave are gorgeous!!
carital973 10 months ago
Glenda Jackson actually seems like she could be the daughter of Genevieve Bujold and Richard Burton. She has Bujold's exact profile, and Burton's voice. Amazing!
Messylin 10 months ago 5
@Messylin - I'm absolutely amazed you said that (about the Bujold & Jackson comparison) because I also have always thought these two look quite alike; also the way they talk.
MaiU2b 10 months ago
@MaiU2b It's funny, I agree completely that Jackson & Bujold look alike. Maybe it has to do with how they were made up and dressed up to play queens of England?
Trudeau7900 3 months ago in playlist Elizabeth R
@Messylin you're so right. Love them all! :)
esthermonaghan7 7 months ago
I find it very funny that Mary said, that she siad "my son will rule in time" funny that is just if not what Anne B said about Elizebeth "What ever my fate my be, My Elizebeth will be Queen, more so then any bastard sons you bear" when she said that to Henry in "A Thousand" something LOL.
Hattaru 1 year ago
I wonder why Vanessa Redgrave didn't insist on playing Mary with auburn hair. In
every other way she was physically perfect for the role.
rees276 1 year ago
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Messylin 1 year ago
I could only watch the first 30 minutes of this film because this movie-and all the other historical British films ("A Man For All Seasons, "Anne of The Thousand Days", "Shakespere in Love") bored the hell into me. Exhibit A of why the British are the most craziest people in the world.
EricandDish 1 year ago
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criznueve 10 months ago
@EricandDish Clearly, you should stick to watching Fast and the Furious & Twilight. Perhaps that can keep your attention span long enough. The movies you mentioned are not historical British Films. They are BASED on historical information, but like many films the creators took quite a liberty in the plot.Ex: Mary and Elizabeth never met face to face. Shakespeare in Love is not based on history at all-it is pure fiction. Exhibit A of why you should not post here if you cant keep up!
criznueve 10 months ago
@criznueve Clearly you should have seen that the person (erica) really was being sarcastic. And she/he is not the only one who feels this way. I for one love Fast and the Furious and Twilight, though it makes me an idiot I understand, but I so do enjoy watching these movies. :) Even though 99% of them are not at all accurate. In fact, we shall never truly know, for we were not there. History has a wonderful and mysterious side that one can only have excruciating pleasure in seeking.
sommerjoy2000 7 months ago
This movie has already been released on DVD! I can't believe you've not got one already if you're such a fan. It's available on Amazon.com & eBay, great price. The picture (widescreen) and the soundtrack are simply magnificent. The DVD-set has two great films in one box (get 2 for the price of one); "Mary, Queen of Scots" and also "Anne of the Thousand Days" with Geneviève Bujold, whose line delivery reminds me of Glenda Jackson. She played Anne Bolyne with Richard Burton as Henry VIII.
MaiU2b 1 year ago 2
Mary Queen of Scots is my favorite movie - both Glenda Jackson & Vanessa Redgrave are magnificent - have tried to find this movie to purchase but so far have had no luck. Thankyou so much for putting this segment on U Tube.
tuppence2787 1 year ago
venessa played Anne Boleyn too, does she enjoy having her head chopped off?
Medusa0999 1 year ago
@Medusa0999
I am certain the Israelis would gladly oblige her in real life, what with all her "anti-Zionist" malarkey.
ligreekguy 1 year ago
The meeting did not happen it is said, but what a script!
Superb.
TroyaE117 1 year ago
@TroyaE117 I agree. The script is extremely well written, and the delivery of it, top notch. Brilliant actresses.
md991free 1 year ago
Im actually not familiar with her
harliette 1 year ago
I do enjoy Redgrave's acting, but Jackson (as I'm fairly certain) really brought herself forth into the world of acting and politics from a presumably working-class background (her father was a bricklayer), as Redgrave was an actress her own, but she also had patronage/nepotism with her familial lineage...
Also uncanny resemblances (at least in my opinion), it's rather unsettling:
Glenda Jackson to Cate Blanchett, and Vanessa Redgrave to daughter Joely Richardson (voice AND appearance)
awhitershadeofpail 1 year ago
@awhitershadeofpail
I wholeheartedly agree, as Redgrave tended to overact and overdramatize. I even think her sister Lynn had more talent.
ligreekguy 1 year ago
Elizabeth and Mary never met. Once again, Hollywood rears it's inaccurate head.
Handiman544 1 year ago
While this film is far from accurate , I think both women captured the personalities of the women they were playing.
sabine1470 1 year ago
i love it when she says not a single day you are not far from my thoughts.
mackbolan8 1 year ago
Glenda Jackson is perfect for Elizabeth Tudor. Both looks & personality
Deader87 1 year ago 3
Glenda Jackson may have a notable political career but I still think it was a great loss to theater (in all its forms) when she decided not to act anymore.
yamsid 1 year ago 2
Speech is out of synch.
RogueRotting360 1 year ago
Two of the finest actresses of the 20th century.
neonmoon82 1 year ago
This movie is so underrated. Vanessa Redgrave absolutely nailed this role, emboding the spirit of Mary. After watching the movie one feels like they know who Mary was, and what a special person she was. A tough role to play because Mary was a very complex woman. Unlike Elizabeth, she succumbed to her desires as she fell in and out of love, heart always ruling over her head. Perhaps a smarter woman than history has allowed, after all, her son, James I, did get the throne just as she had wished.
Teezer44 1 year ago
@Teezer44 Her son disowned her.
happybkwrm 1 year ago
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happybkwrm 1 year ago
LOL! "Pampered woman" is a great description of Mary. She never got it through her thick head that being a queen meant having duties as well as power.
She chose (twice) to marry for lust instead of taking a husband who would have helped her hold her power and rule her country.
happybkwrm 1 year ago 3
Bugger historical accuracy - this is WAY more entertaining. All hail the divine genius of Glenda Jackson and Vanessa Redgrave!
GayGeisha 1 year ago 2
When Helen Mirren reprised the role, they had the two Queens meet again.
Reading about the historical Mary, she seemed to be ruled by her heart and had not much sense. Her own son couldn't stand her.
MizQue 1 year ago 2
Great stuff for the imagination and film makers
Never happened.
lareinemarie1 1 year ago
Not joking at all. Elizabeth was a bastard and a heretic
bripat22 1 year ago
What a tragic combination of royalty. It is a sad thing that they could not have been allies
JESSJUSTJESS 1 year ago 3
two greats!! thank you for this.
sonjaxfactor 1 year ago 3
Saucer of milk, table two! Roooowr!
Jelperman 1 year ago 2
Nice fiction, but they never met.
KateFan 1 year ago
They are both fantastic actresses! I do sometimes wonder what it would have been like had Mary and Elizabeth actually met. I bet it would probably have turned out quite like this LOL.
gapeachjessica 2 years ago 2
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She was indeed a bastard and heretic. You tell it, Queen Mary
bripat22 2 years ago
Sweet Cousin. . .lol
blackiemittens 2 years ago
2 amazing legends
jferkfjkj 2 years ago 17
It's such a pleasure to listen to Glenda Jackson's impeccable diction. She's like a female Olivier, and Redgrave is like a female Brando - so they have a perfect and thrillingly wonderful acting chemistry.
Messylin 2 years ago 29
This movie was highly critiziced for depicting a meeting that never happened. However, every word in the conversation was actually said through letters sent via the french ambassador to each other. Instead of the endless shooting of scenes of both Queens reading letters (like it was done in Elizabeth R) they choose to do one single ficticious dialoge. Unfortunate choice.
mcmlxvi 2 years ago 5
I understand the feeling of folks putting great importance on historical accuracy. Yet you're still absolutely right on about the inefficiency of shooting two queens reading letters. I think people nowadays can realize inaccuracies in a drama. For historical accuracy, they may choose a documentary on History Channel. People who love and adore this film would rather see this scene the way it is, Glenda versus Vanesssa...unleashing their acting prowess at each other in the same scene. ;-)
MaiU2b 2 years ago 7
Render to drama the things that are drama's and to history the things that are history's... and they shall marvell.
mcmlxvi 2 years ago 3
Well then help me fill in the blank here (with your nice articulation)..."Render drama to things that are history's...and they shall..." (get soap opera?...etc, etc) ;-)
MaiU2b 2 years ago
HAHAHA, I'm a french/spanish speaker, my english is anything but articulate, but thanks if you meant it as a complement and thanks again if you didn't. it was a copy/paste with little modifications that just happened to englobe my views in this matters. I appologize if it came across the wrong way. I like your video, this is the only scene that makes me be thankful for licenses taken in history based movies. It tops them all.
mcmlxvi 2 years ago
But I don't disagree with the movies choice, I said it was unfortunate because it was the main sourse of criticism (including both actresses). One of Jackson's main request when doing Elizabeth R was total and abssolute historic accuracy, and today her portray of Elizabeth I in that production is regarded as the best ever. However, you do have a valid point, Elizabeth: The Golden Age, choose not to portray the meeting due to the fact that most people know it never happened.
mcmlxvi 2 years ago 3
Thank you so much for your nice contribution with interesting stuff behind the scenes. I really appreciate that. I love Elizabeth R too (I'm so glad the whole series already came out on DVDs).
MaiU2b 2 years ago
You might find interesting that Glenda Jackson's passion for portraying an accurate depiction of queen elizabeth in 1971 went as far as to shave all her real hair so she could wear the wigs made for her just as the real elizabeth did. Some gowns were so heavy that she had to do the scenes sitting down and yet she refused to have them made lighter. I think Elizabeth R proves that a production can be accurate and still provide a great acting for the audience.
mcmlxvi 2 years ago 2
Two of the best English speaking actresses of the 20th Century.
PadrethePio 2 years ago
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jdollinter 2 years ago
Kick her ass, Glenda.
Pingmeister1985 2 years ago 8
I love Glenda Jackson.
A loss to acting proffesion,
max9ish 2 years ago 2
excellent. please post the film
myfilmblog 2 years ago