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  • were is the check for heat?

  • @The54catwoman:

    We don't teach "check for heat" because in our experience of forcing hundreds of doors at fires we as a collective whole of instructors have never found a door with fire behind it that was not readily known when we approached the door.

    100% of the time with fire behind the door AT LEAST the top 1/3 of the door has visible fire showing from the cracks, heavy smoke pushing, paint peeling, or the door buckling from the heat.

  • Additionally, we teach to force and CONTROL all doors regardless if fire is behind those doors or not. This trains firefighters to the worst case scenario ALL THE time, thus keeping them as safe as possible when fire is encountered.

  • Thank you for replying and giving clarity. You're right on in your statements. I appreciate it and hope it helps others who read it as well. Be safe.

    Chuck

  • Or attack the hinges on an outward swinging door.

  • @ChuckCh9: Certainly the hinges are an option, but not our first option as we teach to keep the integrity of the door in nearly all forcible entry operations.

    Many firefighters think that the hinges are easier, because you can just "pop the pins". In commercial doors, the hinges are typically more secure and the pins cannot be "popped". This door had multiple locks engaged and was moderately secured, and was easily forced in under a minute.

    Thanks for the response and stirring discussion.

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