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  • My dad's proposal to my step-mother-to-be was really sweet. He planted all these false leads, and he organised a dinner where my sister and I, and some of their best friends came 45 minutes late, but nobody knew he'd told us different times, so the two of them were by themselves, and then when everybody else showed up we all got to have dinner together and celebrate. I'd rather have something intimate, thoughtful, and romantic than flashy and expensive.

  • Thank God Cenk?????

  • i don;t believe in a big proposal, i think if she truly wants to be with you then you should just give her the ring with out bending down. and if she is excited and says yes then she truly wants to be with you.

  • I don't think it's the potential bride that causes this or lack of confidence on the part of the potential groom. It is the perceived expectation by the friends and family of the bride. Diamond rings weren't always the standard but if you buy one now you have to have talked with your girlfriend and both agreed that you are prepared for a lifetime of explaining why you didn't want a diamond and that the guy wasn't just a cheapskate. Expectations are on the rise for a breathtaking proposal.

  • Ok this is just ridiculously lazy. Come up with your own ideas douche bags. You know better than some stranger what she'll find romantic anyway.

  • I'm not much of a sweet talker.. But how un-romantic is this whole concept?

    And yes, agreed with Cenk.

  • Who cares? If you have the money to waste cause you're not creative then go for it. I highly doubt the person you're planning to propse to is looking thru a catalog of ideas and will be disappointed with your idea...unless it totally blows

  • Stupid ass men!!!!!!. Stop being such sissies. Man the fuck up. If you are about your girlfreind and honestly cares about you. How hard is it to propose in front of her like a real man :). Some fools think that if you propose in public she will say yes. You dumb fools, that just adds pressure and she won't be able to think properly. Generally speaking. MEN ARE STUPID!!!!

  • "If you don't it'll be great great shame" lol thats not the woman, thats ALL in the mans head. YOU want to impress your woman.

  • Ana is secretly in love with Cenk.

  • I am a woman and I don't care about marriage. Just sign me up for partnership or something and lets get some food.

  • Ana playing dumb FTW

  • when you buy the elite package you get :prenup, proposal,wedding day,divorce lawyer and custody battle complete with wittnesses all in one place!!!!!!!!!!!!! awesome

  • Me and my boyfriend go to an Irish-style every Tuesday and I wouldn't mind if he proposed to me there in front of all our friends. It would actually be my favourite thing ever. :) Most women will appreciate simple gestures as long as there is some kind of personal importance and thought put into it.

  • At lest make it sound like you are doing it because you want to and everything else is good natural. Just be yourself.

  • It doesn't have to be a hug crazy thing but some more then "hey, I guess we should probly get hitched now huh?" while he is not even looking in your direction. Sadly that's what my stupid boyfriend did.....

  • The biggest problem with this isnt rich people, but women. Do this epically and she wont lower the bar for the actual wedding. Epic bill coming your way...

  • For everybody that doesn't know Cenk is married to a Chinese woman must think it's rather racist saying that he's uncomfortable around a bunch of Chinese men. =3

  • People have the right to spend (waste) their money however they want. Especially the rich. If its a shitty idea it wouldn't last under real capitalism. Btw by more pressure on the rest of us do you means jobs??

  • Solution : Never get married. And I'm female.

  • What if she says no? Can you sue them for their stupid idea?

  • @rbauer1632 Maybe they also compare you with your girlfriend and tell you "no, don't do it" or "ok we'll go ahead but no promises, no money back" etc.

  • @rbauer1632 Its America. Do it .

  • so romantic

  • What a waste of money if the person being asked says "no"

  • Save on the wedding, invest on the marriage.

  • @ThePinkDaises In lady talks that means, "SPEND AS MUCH MOTHER FUCKING MONEY AS YOU CAN."

  • @MrSachinCK lol so true

  • Two words: wasteful spending.

  • "if it's because women are making men more pressured..."

    "YES"

    "YES"

    "YES"

    "YES"

    i lol'd

  • rich people spending money is good for economy.

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  • And yeah, I'm with Ana, not all women are like that. I would melt if a guy proposed to me by slipping a ring in a video game box and giving it to me as a gift :P

  • As a person with social anxiety issues and agoraphobia I would likely dump the crap out of someone who did an over the top proposal. *Goes back to hiding under the desk.*

  • Of Coooouuuurrrrsssseeeee

  • Why is TYT still ingnoring the NDAA signed by O-Bomber on New Years eve?

  • If my boyfriend wasted that kind of money to propose to me, I'd say fuck no and dump him. Excess wealth should be used more productively than something useless like that. I'd rather visit another country or take more college classes or something.

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  • @595o I respect that some people don't. However, I had over 50 clients last year and all the women that were the recipient of our proposals thanked us and now follow us on Facebook. But I understand it's not for anyone.

  • whats the problem with that? if you can do it better with more money is that bad? I bet others can do it better of course.

  • Get on one knee, and ask her to be ur bottom bitch.. It's that simple.. That will be $50 please.

  • ANA, HOLY SHIT YOU LOOK YUMMY !

  • What women say and what they want are two different things. At least in my experience. That's why I am always ready with the apology, "I am sorry I listened to what you said instead of what you were thinking." ;)

  • Shit on her face, if its true love, she will treasure that moment forever.

  • my ideal proposal would be a scavanger hunt or something. like my guy would take me to an anime convention and he would leave me clues in every panel. and then in the every last panel he would state some nerdy anime reference and appear out of nowhere in his cosplay outfit and propose to me. i dont know why people are being complex with this shit. i thought this sort of stuff should be fun, at least my idea is.

  • duck tape the ring on your dick and let her get down on her knees

  • Don't get marry, simple answer.

  • For crying out loud! I read the title and thought... who would want to do this? It would be a big turn-off I think if somebody actually does. Can't even plan something straight, like what's next? Children Conceiving Planner?

  • @Strawedify Probably. So many consultants out there....people are getting lazier and lazier, it's pathetic.

  • But you see, all this stuff gets implanted into the female head. Love stories day time drama stories...the media, fucking DAYS OF OUR LIVES. plain and simple guys, If you never want to deal with that, ask a girl what she dose on her bullshit spare time...find out if she's into all this bullshit. If she is, expect to loose money on Brainwash bullshit. Now if she plays video games and watches porn all day, she's a keeper lol

  • surgically insert a wedding ring inside your balls, give her a facial, she notices wedding ring on her face! How would that not be a win?

  • @VanessaTexasGal hilarious :D 

  • @VanessaTexasGal HAHAHAHA that's the funiest thing i read all week :D

  • "Give the gift of Giraffe"

  • Dear Cenk... don't get me wrong, you're fucking awesome.... but please stop referring to yourself as US when you talk about the financial lower proportion of the united states and the bullshit we have to go through. In all honesty i feel that when you use the moniker "you" you'll let the people know that the divide is more prevalent then they suppose.

  • Yeah, let's not bring manufacturing home lets make more useless service jobs. Awesome >.>

  • What I want to do is write "Will You Marry Me" on the inside of the lid of a girls grandfathers coffin so when they open it up for the viewing she will leap into my arms!

    I'm sure it will work, right?!?

  • If my fiance hired a proposal planner or proposed in public at a sporting event or something in front of lots of people, the answer would have been a resounding "NO".

  • did chenk vomit at 0:16?

  • My ex-girlfriend reminded me periodically that she wanted a 'public and embarrassing' proposal...something to do with dancing and group participation. So yes, this is a case of women pressuring men.

  • Just conceal the ring in the Big Mac. The element of McSurprise.

  • I don't want an over the top romantic proposal, I would like my relationship to be one of equals. I don't want my man to kneel, to beg or even to ask. When it's time, WE should know. And a public proposal? An over-the-top proposal? I'd say no, I'd feel pressured, manipulated into saying yes and I feel that that's disrespectful to the general man, and to me specifically. And I don't know about other women, but most women I know seem to be on a similar page.

  • I would much rather have someone ask me in a low-key, private manner rather than some over-the-top extravaganza because I don't want to feel overly pressured into saying yes and signing my life away. Fuck that. You ask me in public, it's an automatic NO.

  • @hothotheat3000 you say this until it actually happens and then when you hear your girlfriend's talk about thier grand proposals during couple's night, you will feel different and let your boyfriend have it when he gets home. Your reaction to their story will make him feel like some kind of a loser. Trust me on this one, men have feelings too.

  • @nnaco1010 Honestly, I think big proposals are tacky, and if my boyfriend did that to me, I'd be mortified. I'm shy about stuff like that. Our relationship is between us, not to be put on display like a sideshow. An intimate proposal is so much more romantic to me than skydiving onto my roof with a ring and a marching band.

  • @hothotheat3000 That's exactly true :). Some fools think if you propose in the pulic she will definatley say yes. Generally speaking, MEN are stupid. 

  • I think this is such a great idea. Men are too stupid to figure things out when it comes to romance, and we like romance, and most girls want to feel special not only on their wedding day, but also the proposal needs to be super special and memorable... So i honestly think this is something good.

  • @kandeesfan316 Glad to you you're not one to generalise...

  • @SupermarketsRevil I know, it totally sounded like that... It wasn't intentional though, it just didn't come out right but i do apologize... What i was trying to say was, that we expect way too much from men, and i do believe it is almost impossible for them to figure things out when it comes to romance...

  • @kandeesfan316 Why apologise when you reiterate exactly the same point; " i do believe it is almost impossible for them to figure things out when it comes to romance"

    Some men are romantic, some are not. Just as is the case with women. If people would communicate and actually take an interest in what makes the other person happy then we would see less of this kind of problem.

  • @SupermarketsRevil I actually agree with you on that. If only more people would understand how important communication is, we wouldn't have as many divorces...

    The reason why i apologized was not for what i had said before, but because i may have offended you, i was just being polite.

  • @kandeesfan316 I wouldn't worry about offending someone if you're just giving your honest opinion. Too many people avoid speaking their mind because of societal norms regarding what is and is not considered acceptable discussion; unless you accidentally say something that is quite unambiguously insensitive there is no need to apologise for voicing your opinion.

    I've gone on a bit of a tangent, but it frustrates me when people think they have a right to not be offended.

  • @SupermarketsRevil I have to say that i really admire how fair and how respectful you are to say what you need to say, thank you for that, it's much appreciated.

  • Why women don't propose to men? Or" equality "is only an issue when it's convenient ?

  • By the time I'm married there are going to be people who plan your whole marriage.

  • overzealous extravagant proposals make me want to vomit like i'd rather get proposed to in front of a gas station like jim and pam from the office :)

  • As a woman, the last thing I would want is an expensive, over-the-top proposal. The simplest, most quaint moments are often the most romantic.

  • @ThePinkDaises i think you just killed half the people on youtube with that comment lol

  • My partner and I have been together for 12 years. We are already considered "common law marriage" and we get the benefits. We have good reason to think official marriage is fucking stupid. You want me to get permission from you to validate my love for another person? WTF? You want me to pay you to get permission to escape from the person I don't want to be around? Why do I need someone else's permission to fall in and out of love.

  • Anna's sweater looks out of focus.

  • LOL @ Cenks reaction!!!!

  • My dad proposed to my mom over the phone, they've been together for almost 30 years.

  • A proposal is meant to be a personal INTIMATE moment. Jumping out of planes or whatever crazy thing some idiot dreams up would absolutely ruin it. If some guy proposed to me in a ridiculous way like a banner flying behind a plane or fireworks or whatever ridiculousness, I'd let him go through the whole charade and then, hopefully in front of a very large crowd, I'd say ABSOLUTELY NOT! Who the hell wants a show boat.

  • you know what we need now a divorce planner.

  • Husband and I said lets get married in two weeks, got the rings 1 week later, and got married at the sherriffs office.

  • Right ON THE MONEY Cenk !

  • Exactly how many is too many chinese guys?

  • @KingTekins < One Billion?

    LMAO, jkjkjk.

  • Marriage is all bullshit, anyway.

  • stupid people with disposable income will always do stupid things. How about we use our own creativity or free resources as Google, Bing, Yahoo or youtube. Either way you will end up in a divorce

  • We'll be at the fanciest resturant in town and have sniper shoot the ring on her finger then scream "MARRY ME!!" in her face as she struggles to find out what happend

  • I wouldn't marry anyone who cares about a fancy proposal, fancy ring, and a fancy wedding.

    I wouldn't have anything in common with someone that shallow.

  • If your blood pressure rises during a wedding or proposal or honeymoon or the planning thereof, you are doing it wrong.

  • It's really simple people, you just need a helicopter and fly over the city and have some fireworks spell it out, and then you basejump to your favorite restaurant and put the key in the lobster and then it's actually a treasure map and... jeez this is getting complicated, I need someone to help me with this shit.

  • @TheRepublicOfUngeria But the lobster has a big ass diamond in it, as well as a key, to a locker, and that locker contains 50k in cash, tickets to Vegas and your paid reservations at the Bellagio, through clever negotiations and "payola"

    The 4 acres of vacant land in back are now your "animal Sanctuary" approved is by local zoning. A Giraffe, and 3 Baby Giraffes, are all on the way, Paid staff on hand to care for them, And a also Huge Ass Ferris Wheel -Now Thats a

    proposal

  • @TheRepublicOfUngeria Take her to dinner at a nice restaurant, get down on a knee, and open the box with the ring in it.

    You owe me 40 dollars now btw...

  • Pathetic.

  • Really? What ever happened to "Do it the way mom and dad did it"?

  • @TheSouthernAndrew people now days need a way to spend money. Real love is lost to just a few... which requires nothing more than asking another loved one for their hand.

  • Weddings are generally crass and obnoxious displays of conspicuous consumption. Being invited to a wedding is a sure way to ruin my day.

  • @newpolarity i love your comment. It screams "sheldon cooper"

  • Why? I mean, why marry? I don't care what the state thinks of my relationship.

  • The commercialization of marriage is disgusting.

  • Well, since most marriages end in divorce, should we start hiring divorce planners? Or would a divorce lawyer or affair partner suffice?

  • @Tockpro333 I gave my good friend a divorce party male strippers n all was awsome! Told her life moves on and to dwell in a past issue was nothing more than a waste of time. She is now... 10 years later... married with a kid to a great guy.

  • Shmo

  • The food court at the mall seemed romantic enough. She said yes!

  • @TheDisturbism lol awsome.

  • I thought women wanted to be equal? Then where the fuck are the women proposing to their boyfriends? Nowhere. That's where.

  • @zhono You have to wait for a leap year for that to happen LOL.

  • @zhono This happens quite often, but I'm assuming for most guys, this is a sign to run the other way.

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  • @zhono We have actually had several woman propose!

  • @zhono if the average woman cannot muster up the courage to ask for YOUR number, how the hell do you think she's going to muster up the courage to ask YOU to marry her?

  • This just shows how far America has gone another stupid idea proposal planner lmfao only in America.

  • If my boyfriend proposed to me, and I found out afterward that he had consulted someone to get the idea, how offended would I be? You couldn't even come up with an idea of your own? How impersonal isn't that? I'd rather you proposed to me in our fucking toilet than following some kind of scheme you paid for. I don't care if you where involved in the process, you do it yourself or maybe with a tip from a friend. or you don't do it at all.

  • @momijinohanako Well said girl :)

  • @momijinohanako

    If your love for your boyfriend matters on whether or not he paid someone to help him out with proposing then for his sake I sincerely hope he doesn't propose at all.

  • I don't see the big deal tbh. If someone wants to pay for a nice idea let him or her. I'm pro-choice. No one is forcing you, no one is getting hurt.

    This outrage over the planners seem a little fake/misplaced to me.

  • @Phyrexious I like your use of the term 'Pro-Choice' when deciding to get a proposal planner or not. I'm Pro-Life when it comes to these things.

  • @TheZeup2000

    No problem. It is entirely your right to feel outraged about someone elses decision, no matter how irrelevant.

    I just don't see the big fucking deal if a guy wants a perfect proposal. Same with wanting a perfect wedding but then suddenly a planner is acceptable..?

    I won't pay for it myself (mostly because I'm a cheakskate) but I have no problem with someone getting a little help from someone else when doing what is arguably the most important move in his/her life.

  • @Phyrexious If someone puts on a show for a personal moment like a proposal, it's not about the woman. It's about himself. That's why any guy who does this kind of shit should be turned down. If that's the beginning, you know it won't last.  A marriage is a partnership, not a platform for one person to be in the spotlight. As for wedding planners, again, same thing. I organized my wedding in 1 week and got married 2 months later. It was perfect. Everything else is just show and who needs it!

  • @nvieira100

    Woh slow down Dr. Phil! You acting like you know the sole reason of EVERYONE who ever tried to make a big event of something special and labeling it as an egocentric reason... wow.. Are you always this simple minded putting the entire human race in 2 categories?

    Black and white thinking is typically a sign of low IQ. Try to broaden the possible options a little bit and see how that works out for you. Not everyone in the universe is like you.

  • @Phyrexious

    :) I wasn't outraged. I just thought it was funny you associated a term usually reserved for positions on abortion to describe your position on 'proposal planners.' I in fact, agree with you.

  • I congratulate anyone who can create a business making money off stupid rich people who cant think for themselves.

  • I am a Marriage Proposal Planner and I respect everyone's opinion. Everyone has a right to dislike the services we offer. However, there is a misconception that the man hands us money and we just go plan the idea. The client is very involved with the proposal. We interview them, find out details about his girlfriend, their relationship, etc and then we come up with a proposal idea that puts it all together. We are event coordinators that specialize in proposals.

  • @sicilianmarie Seems like some people don't like the idea of event coordinators that specialize in intimate moments.

  • Going back to the old days when most weddings were planned..

    If a couple really felt ready enough to stay together, they'd not require a sodding wedding planner as the proposal would be pretty much inconsequential at that point.

  • A real proposal should come spontaneously after hours of feverish lovemaking in the middle of the night. Hell the men of today are so disappointing. Thank god I snatched up an actual MAN with hair, testosterone, an ego... a dying breed.

  • @dvlnthebludrs

    There it is guys. 3 prerequisites to getting a woman who wants a MAN. You must have hair, testosterone, and an ego. So all we need is an unshaven penis with descended testes, that may or may not be well endowed, but at least think we are. Any other woman would like to corroborate this?

  • @TheZeup2000 Not all women ... just THAT woman. And it looks like she's already taken, so, no biggie :p

  • Bit awkward being a lesbian I guess then with all this traditional male-oriented proposal planning advertising because obviously only men are capable of making such life altering decisions and carrying them out. Will I ever get married? Oh wait, i forgot, i'm not allowed anyway. What a relief.

  • This is innovation in monetary economics. This is "job creation".

    Screw doing anything productive, let's enable the superficial nature of people. Let's pander to their greed or vanity. Disgusting.

  • You will love my proposal:

    My Wife and I are big movie buffs and I work as a graphic artist for a local movie theater. I designed a slideshow that played before a movie that had pictures of us as babys, children, teens and adults photoshopped together, the last slide said "It feels like I have know you my entire life will you marry me?"

    I got down on one knee but forgot the theater floor slants and about rolled myself. Regardless she said yes

  • You went to the Chinese Garden then felt there were too many Chinese guys around which made you uncomfortable? LMAO.

    I went to the mosque then started feeling weired cause there were too many Muslims around. Ru fucking serious?

  • The wedding trends of the rich puts pressure on upper middle class (and below) "normal" women who in turn put pressure on their significant others which makes money flow out of pockets more freely thus allow the rich to get higher salaries and bonuses from industries built around wedding nonsense thus allowing them to spend on more elaborate wedding proposals, ceremonies and honeymoons. Vicious cycle detected!

  • How about no? I think I'll keep my money in my pocket.

  • I just want my boyfriend to propose to me in a video game or on his blog, we've discussed it, and it's pretty easy to do, and we'll do it when we're ready.

  • @Lets1Eat2The3Chibis Like in the famous Mario clone proposal video on Youtube?

  • @595o No, more like trading a ring and asking me to marry him while playing an mmorpg together.

  • Marriage is a sin in the eyes of the maker. Im pretty sure about that. Yes.

  • Thank god married adults are almost a minority amount adults

  • Everybody seems so cynical about marriage.

  • @rossidude Because people who marry are responsible of ALL cases of spouse abuse! Have you ever heard of a non married man who have caused violence on his wife?

  • Wouldnt the proposal be more special if they planed it themsevles and not some stranger you paid to think it up?

  • 2:50 How many guys have a mafia underboss as their girlfriend?

  • What I don't like is the idea that guys still thing getting married is a good idea. NO MAN NEEDS TO GET MARRIED. If you're stupid enough to continue, ENSURE you have a pre-nup, and go to a good lawyer. Better yet. Don't move in with the other person (man or woman). Have a life of your own! Travel, meet people, read, enjoy your own hobbies ... Big world out there, don't chain yourself to a skank for a few years and have to PAY HER TO LEAVE! THINK ABOUT IT! Don't buy the cow, F$ck the herd.

  • Wait, I thought people on here bashed marriage. Yet they are all on in this topic. Kind of hypocritical.

  • That's it... I'm a communist.

  • my proposal was nto a real proposal, it was me and my future wife sitting and discussing what would be the best and most logical way to go, marriage would help her get papers to move to Sweden from USA or vice versa then we did decided together that we should get married and then we looked for the cheapest way to do it. And that is how we did it, it wasn't romantic but we had a great wedding and we could focus on other stuff that was more romantic and set up a home together.

  • For people that have way more money than sense = Lifestyle Consultants.

    In my line of work I've met more than a few of these "professionals", and I think it's safe to say that the majority of them were total f#ng numpties. It's probably the laziest way to say you're "working". I'd do it, but my Bullshit Filter would probably blow up and give me an aneurism.

  • When a woman announce their engagement, the first question is not "how" but show me the ring.

  • I love whan Anna say Jhon Shmow or whatever:D

  • and some women wonder why they sit at home going WHY AM I ALONE? with a tub of ben and jerrys

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  • Ana: I don't know if it's because women are making men feel more pressure.

    Everyone else: yes *YES* Yes yeS.

    Exactly what I had in mind.

  • If you love your partner why do you feel the need to get married? A marriage is just binding the two of you together legally. You are just "officially" together. It costs you a fortune and nothing actually happens.

    I do not see why you cannot just live together without the branded name of husband and wife. All you receive from a marriage are social labels.

  • I don't want a big fancy proposal. I don't even really want a ring (I keep misplacing them). Just be sweet and honest, that's all we women really care about. And keep a proposal planner out of this!

  • What? Women are pressuring the men? Heck, I don't ever want an elaborate cheesy proposal. And especially not a public one! Just sayin..

  • what about the proposal rehearsal ?

  • People will do anything to throw away money

  • I hate it how the standards for love get higher and higher by the day -.-'

  • This is capitalism at its finest! You feel obliged to hire some "professional" for everything these days... and of course pay astronomical fees for their services. This is what happens when people grow up in a society where people are brainwashed by product marketing from the day they are born! Don't think for yourself. Unless you buy this expensive car you'll be unhappy for the rest of your life. If you don't buy this and that you don't love your children, partner or friends!