this movie looks so good. its about the soldiers in china who raped innocent women and children during the war. the nanjinj massacre, i think it is referred to.
Sorry, strike that. Just found out it didn't make the final shortlist :(
Regardless of that, I still found it a brilliant film and I wish all the political sniping would stop on here. Call me an idealist, but I think rather than debate over past politics, we should remember the overrun of Nanking and those who died, and hopefully learn from history for what will probably be the first time.
firstly i dont like the many name changes to this film,i think the original 13 flowers of nanjing was better,secondly .....carrying on the westerm tradition; the axis powers will be potrayed as aggressors and evil ,and bale will represent the yankee knight in shining armour,many people dont realize that it was a NAZI(AXIS) GERMAN!!! diplomat who provided refuge to the chinese from the japanese army,never seen a film abt him,nor the fact that he was the only one who documented the whole event!!!
@tomoaki66 I can't be bothered to translate EXCUSES , something about a general regretting of the infliction of inhumanity acts by the japanese soldiers to civilians? It is the responsibility of your so called JAPANESE EMPORER to officially apologize to the deaths , not even mentioning how the fuck your emporer still exists when the nazi parties disappeared.
@tomoaki66 and don't fucking compare the deaths of civilians from Nanking massacre to the deaths from the atomic bombs. If I am a civilian from the past I would rather die instantly in a gas chamber , an atomic , rather than suffering from barbaric torturing before death. Which would you prefer?
Anyway the later you japs apologize is going to be less realized by the world because nowadays no one really gives a shit to your little pathetic country anymore
Japanese , your last generation had done so much inhumanity killing and torture of CIVILIANS , not just slaughtering or raping of adults , they killed children , toddlers , and even BABIES , accept the fact and simply give back the millions of death an apology , not to us.
@tomoaki66 so because the americans completely fucked over japan YOU feel that japan doesn't owe china any apologies for their heinous acts of past?? you are deluded and clearly a moron.. what the americans did to japan and what japan did to the chinese are equally beyond despicable..
you should be ashamed for writing these words.. i have many chinese and japanese friends and they would both be disturbed and upset by your comment.
it is true that the japanese did commit a massacre such as this, but why should they apologize, when America has never apologize for anything they have ever done to the world.
Germans are remembered each year on what they did in the War. Movies, books, TV shows, news. I think right. The world should not forget. The Germans must be careful not to let happen. But I wonder why you can not make a film about the Japanese actions in China? Why do the Japanese get so nervous? They were acts of the past. In a latest step the Japanese were victims of two pumps. It also needs to be remembered forever. This is history, let's just always remember
@tomoaki66 The story is also madespeeches. I'm finding all this great, I'm learning a lot ... A new controversy. It is every man for his version on the table
I don't understand why anything involving China on youtube triggers a political discussion......I'm Chinese and I came here because I want to watch Zhang Yimou collaborate with Christian Bale, not to watch people attacking each other and their countries in the comment section thank you very much
...I thought the movie wasnt intended to criticize the Japanese...Not to find an excuse for what the Japanese had done, but all troops invading other countries more or less did the same thing. Just think of the USSR's Red Army...
1 in every 200 people alive today is a descendant of Genghis Khan (because he impregnated THAT many women in his time)- should we demand an apology from 1 in every 200 people for the atrocities that Genghis Khan committed?
I think some people here need to run a search on "Why Can't We Be Friends" on youtube next.
@MegaOptimusPrimal it's a chinese song named: qin huai jing, it means the beautiful scenery around the shoreside of the river qinhuai, which is in Nanking
Why are people so quick to judge without truly understanding the meaning behind a movie? This movie, along with Purple Mountain, are important films that depict the history of the Nanking massacre. Hopefully it will pressure the public to influence the Japanese government to come forth with an apology and admit their responsibility in this notorious massacre.The Japanese soldiers didn't just rape the women, they also participated in barbaric killing contests. It is loathsome to say the least.
@harmoniew, with all due respect, didn't the new generation of the Japanese already apologize for the many atrocities that their ancestors did in the past? How many times does Japan need to apologize for the past behavior of their ancestors before people stop demanding apologies from them and to stop judging them?
@TheLemrak with all due respect, why don't you dig up some political proof of the Japanese actually apologizing? It is known that Tokyo has denied many times of Japan's war crimes in Nanking, yet not one apology has came out.
@TheLemrak America needs to apologise for the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan. The bush family and the Bin Laden family had a deal gone wrong so thats why Bush staged 9/11 . Osama was a CIA agent recruited in the 90's to train Mujahadeen and Al Quaida to make them strong so they could fight the russians.... America also needs to apologise for sticking their nose everywhere not needed, where really needed not doing so....
this is not about judging Japanese. And there is no official apology from Japanese government till today. This movie is about the women who went through the Rape of Nanking. Plus apology is never enough. Those women protected the girls is like to find their innocence back and the girls live instead of the women... As one whose hometown is Nanking, I cant bear what you said. so damn. screw you.
@TheLemrak Please help me, tell me where's the Japanese government's apology. I am looking for it for years and haven't found it, please help me if you know more the Japanese government attitude about the history of the Nanking massacre. There's my relatives who were killed there. I want to tell them so that they can feel peace in heaven.
@TheLemrak If you are not lying, please tell me when and where the Japanese government made the apology. You can do it, i believe you. You must have some proof, please show us here in public.
@lanzazhong You either need a chill pill or u need to stfu. Because you're making Chinese people look bad. Calling others stupid wont make you smarter.
@TheLemrak the japanese already apologized? when?They never did, some of them never admit there was a war. I'm not saying every Japanese, but sadly it is the truth that SOME of them does not admit this was happened before
@TheLemrak to tell you the truth i wouldn't know what it was like to live in china during the sino-japan era of rape, torture, and killings, but based on the history books i have read, its unbelievable what they did, but hey the past is the past let bygones be bygones, can't really say for everyone else since i didn't live in that generation and by the way I'm Chinese :)
@TheLemrak The japanese never officially apologize to the raping and tortures of comfort women and civilians , only twice of apologies claiming sorry for the DAMAGE to the countries involved , and.... that's it? Also , how about the official history textbooks used in japanese secondary schools? They are all amended by the government changing lots of facts , no mention of cruelty to comfort women , and the Nanking civilians WELCOMED the japanese soldiers? Seriously fuck off!
@harmoniew Go read ''serbian war'' . Women were beaten to death with lead sticks, raped and afterwards their genitals were burned with fire or butchered with knives, their breasts cut off, theres even a picture of a woman still alive, whos baby was cut ou of her with a knive...the just cut her whole stomach off....go read that...serbs still haven't gotten an apology...
@harmoniew so true. my grandfather was a sworn witness of what they did in our country. they've seen women and babies mutilated and dead bodies in rivers...if they do apologize...not accepted because it will truly take more than that
this movie looks so good. its about the soldiers in china who raped innocent women and children during the war. the nanjinj massacre, i think it is referred to.
does anyone know when this is coming to DVD?
LadyScorpio39 6 days ago
Why did the Chinese soldiers give up fighting against Japan and run and flock into the Safety Zone?
It is only natural that many civilian casualties were killed in battle.
LongLiveJapan1 1 month ago
THE TRUTH OF NANJING MASSACRE
watch?v=ZTPgUbSvMNc
LongLiveJapan1 1 month ago
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TheEnglishRedRose 1 month ago
Sorry, strike that. Just found out it didn't make the final shortlist :(
Regardless of that, I still found it a brilliant film and I wish all the political sniping would stop on here. Call me an idealist, but I think rather than debate over past politics, we should remember the overrun of Nanking and those who died, and hopefully learn from history for what will probably be the first time.
TheEnglishRedRose 1 month ago
I hope this does well at the Oscars, best of the foreign films I've seen so far :)
TheEnglishRedRose 1 month ago
firstly i dont like the many name changes to this film,i think the original 13 flowers of nanjing was better,secondly .....carrying on the westerm tradition; the axis powers will be potrayed as aggressors and evil ,and bale will represent the yankee knight in shining armour,many people dont realize that it was a NAZI(AXIS) GERMAN!!! diplomat who provided refuge to the chinese from the japanese army,never seen a film abt him,nor the fact that he was the only one who documented the whole event!!!
drtusi 1 month ago
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tomoaki66 1 month ago
@tomoaki66 I can't be bothered to translate EXCUSES , something about a general regretting of the infliction of inhumanity acts by the japanese soldiers to civilians? It is the responsibility of your so called JAPANESE EMPORER to officially apologize to the deaths , not even mentioning how the fuck your emporer still exists when the nazi parties disappeared.
JayZLife 1 month ago
@tomoaki66 and don't fucking compare the deaths of civilians from Nanking massacre to the deaths from the atomic bombs. If I am a civilian from the past I would rather die instantly in a gas chamber , an atomic , rather than suffering from barbaric torturing before death. Which would you prefer?
Anyway the later you japs apologize is going to be less realized by the world because nowadays no one really gives a shit to your little pathetic country anymore
JayZLife 1 month ago
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tomoaki66 1 month ago
強姦の真犯人は中国人
1938.1.4 NYタイムス
元支那軍将校が避難民の中に 大佐一味が白状、南京の犯罪を日本軍のせいに。
南京の金陵女子大学に、避難民救助委員会の外国人委員として残留しているアメリカ人教授たちは、逃亡中の大佐一味とその部下の将校を匿っていたことを発見し、心底から当惑した。
実のところ教授たちは、この大佐を避難民キャンプで2番目に権力ある地位につけていたのである。 この将校たちは、支那軍が南京から退却する際に軍服を脱ぎ捨て、それから女子大の建物に住んでいて発見された。
彼らは大学の建物の中に、ライフル6丁とピストル5丁、砲台からはずした機関銃一丁に、弾薬をも隠していたが、それを日本軍の捜索隊に発見されて、自分たちのもであると自白した。 この元将校たちは、南京で掠奪した事と、ある晩などは避難民キャンプから少女たちを暗闇に引きずり込んで、その翌日には日本兵が襲ったふうにしたことを、アメリカ人や外の外国人たちのいる前で自白した。
この元将校たちは戒厳令に照らして罰せられるだろう。
tomoaki66 1 month ago
Japanese , your last generation had done so much inhumanity killing and torture of CIVILIANS , not just slaughtering or raping of adults , they killed children , toddlers , and even BABIES , accept the fact and simply give back the millions of death an apology , not to us.
JayZLife 1 month ago
Such a great movie. The song touched my heart. Super impressive!!!Cant wait to see it.
kimisherrymao 1 month ago
wach online at online-movies.x11s.org
salmakas 1 month ago
when it will be shown in UK?
BeautieKitty 1 month ago
アメリカは広島と長崎に原爆を落とし、民間人の30万人を人体実験のために殺戮した。
アメリカは批判を回避するために嘘の言い訳を捏造して日本に謝罪をしていない。
国家事業で戦争を行うアメリカに、日本を批判する資格はない。
tomoaki66 1 month ago
@tomoaki66 so because the americans completely fucked over japan YOU feel that japan doesn't owe china any apologies for their heinous acts of past?? you are deluded and clearly a moron.. what the americans did to japan and what japan did to the chinese are equally beyond despicable..
you should be ashamed for writing these words.. i have many chinese and japanese friends and they would both be disturbed and upset by your comment.
MrYuzhai 1 month ago
it is true that the japanese did commit a massacre such as this, but why should they apologize, when America has never apologize for anything they have ever done to the world.
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tasmanian53 1 month ago
I cant wait to see this movie!
brownierocks11 1 month ago
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chineetoile 1 month ago
Germans are remembered each year on what they did in the War. Movies, books, TV shows, news. I think right. The world should not forget. The Germans must be careful not to let happen. But I wonder why you can not make a film about the Japanese actions in China? Why do the Japanese get so nervous? They were acts of the past. In a latest step the Japanese were victims of two pumps. It also needs to be remembered forever. This is history, let's just always remember
AdricaMovie 1 month ago
@AdricaMovie これは歴史ではない。中国が作り上げたプロパガンダです。
日本はアジアの植民地支配を解放するために白人と戦った。
欧米は日本をスケープゴートに使い悪者にした。
tomoaki66 1 month ago
@tomoaki66 The story is also madespeeches. I'm finding all this great, I'm learning a lot ... A new controversy. It is every man for his version on the table
AdricaMovie 1 month ago
what?!
torpedo192 1 month ago
I don't understand why anything involving China on youtube triggers a political discussion......I'm Chinese and I came here because I want to watch Zhang Yimou collaborate with Christian Bale, not to watch people attacking each other and their countries in the comment section thank you very much
iknowsnothin 1 month ago 8
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Copy and past it and Google it. You can see true Japanese soldiers in the picture in China.
Free Chinese people from the government.
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見ろ!実は、日本兵は中国で礼儀正しく、皆から愛されていた。
onioroshi 1 month ago
・西安事変(1936年10月)
翌1937年に日中戦争が勃発した後に第二次国共合作が成立するが、
このことは西安事件を土台としたものであった。
蒋介石監禁の報を受けた中国共産党は、蒋介石殺害計画を検討したが、
スターリンの鶴の一声で立ち消えとなった。
これは陳立夫のスターリンへの働きかけもあったし、蒋介石と和睦することで、
共産党勢力を温存し、国民党と手を組んで抗日戦を継続する事が、
日本を中国に釘付けにして対ソ戦を回避させるスターリンの思惑が働いたという。
tomoaki66 1 month ago
@tomoaki66 agree
AndreasSkate 1 month ago
...I thought the movie wasnt intended to criticize the Japanese...Not to find an excuse for what the Japanese had done, but all troops invading other countries more or less did the same thing. Just think of the USSR's Red Army...
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89arcteryx 1 month ago
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FUC*ING CREEPY CHINESE, search''Chinese War Victims Welcome the Apology But Demand Compensation''on google.
Idiot always wants compensation.
xwillbex 1 month ago
FUC*ING CREEPY IDIOT CHINESE, search''Chinese War Victims Welcome the Apology But Demand Compensation''on google.
xwillbex 1 month ago
@xwillbex caonima
gysxff 1 month ago
@gysxff
qu ni ma de. ni wangbadan
xwillbex 1 month ago
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xwillbex 1 month ago
プロパガンダに謝罪する馬鹿はいない
tomoaki66 1 month ago
@tomoaki66 等你们什么时候做到了德国人已经做的,我们会把你们当做人来看待
gysxff 1 month ago
@gysxff 日本とドイツを一緒にしないでくれ
tomoaki66 1 month ago
@gysxff 賠償金を政府開発援助(ODA)と名前を変えて
日本が6兆円以上賠償したのを中国人は知らされていない
tomoaki66 1 month ago
1 in every 200 people alive today is a descendant of Genghis Khan (because he impregnated THAT many women in his time)- should we demand an apology from 1 in every 200 people for the atrocities that Genghis Khan committed?
I think some people here need to run a search on "Why Can't We Be Friends" on youtube next.
prznking 1 month ago
chinese pepple dont forget that shit,you fucking fool
lanzazhong 1 month ago
AMAZING
bf2lm1 1 month ago
Best movie I've seeen in a while!
tbach937 1 month ago 2
@tbach937 I'm happy to see a comment that was actually about the movie...
sethcohen1987 1 month ago
Muito bom o filme!!! Muito bom mesmo!!!!
27011989moises 1 month ago
Nolan in a Japanese film? Sounds interesting, gonna watch this...
zeromant80 1 month ago
@zeromant80 Nolan wtf? Its christion bale....
dexxboyy 1 month ago
@zeromant80 it is a chinese movie
lanzazhong 1 month ago
looks good!
Hrko1992 1 month ago
voglio vederlo!!!
Anacletathebest 1 month ago
Fantastic film!
DeGroen1988 1 month ago
christian bale has yellow fever
lalalance 1 month ago
I saw this movie last week in a cinema in Beijing... its so moving and sad !!!!
TheTomHao 1 month ago
Definitely worth a watch. Even though it is a work of fiction, it is based on actual events that deserve to be remembered.
minas23 1 month ago 2
does anyone know the name of the song the girls sing?
MegaOptimusPrimal 2 months ago
@MegaOptimusPrimal A Christmas carol "Angels We Have Heard on High"
kitpai 1 month ago
@MegaOptimusPrimal it's a chinese song named: qin huai jing, it means the beautiful scenery around the shoreside of the river qinhuai, which is in Nanking
ayane2011summer 1 month ago
@MegaOptimusPrimal ah, I'm sorry, I was wrong, ,it's a catholic song named Angels we have heard on high XD
ayane2011summer 1 month ago
i will definately watch it.
cmenard1982 2 months ago
Why are people so quick to judge without truly understanding the meaning behind a movie? This movie, along with Purple Mountain, are important films that depict the history of the Nanking massacre. Hopefully it will pressure the public to influence the Japanese government to come forth with an apology and admit their responsibility in this notorious massacre.The Japanese soldiers didn't just rape the women, they also participated in barbaric killing contests. It is loathsome to say the least.
harmoniew 2 months ago 38
@harmoniew, with all due respect, didn't the new generation of the Japanese already apologize for the many atrocities that their ancestors did in the past? How many times does Japan need to apologize for the past behavior of their ancestors before people stop demanding apologies from them and to stop judging them?
TheLemrak 1 month ago 15
@TheLemrak with all due respect, why don't you dig up some political proof of the Japanese actually apologizing? It is known that Tokyo has denied many times of Japan's war crimes in Nanking, yet not one apology has came out.
TheSarahZhang 1 month ago
@TheLemrak Alas! But not until they write what they did in their textbooks will I return them their respect.
o0LARCenCiel 1 month ago
@TheLemrak America needs to apologise for the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan. The bush family and the Bin Laden family had a deal gone wrong so thats why Bush staged 9/11 . Osama was a CIA agent recruited in the 90's to train Mujahadeen and Al Quaida to make them strong so they could fight the russians.... America also needs to apologise for sticking their nose everywhere not needed, where really needed not doing so....
Hrko1992 1 month ago
@TheLemrak
this is not about judging Japanese. And there is no official apology from Japanese government till today. This movie is about the women who went through the Rape of Nanking. Plus apology is never enough. Those women protected the girls is like to find their innocence back and the girls live instead of the women... As one whose hometown is Nanking, I cant bear what you said. so damn. screw you.
12LIUM 1 month ago
@TheLemrak what the Japanese government say about the massacre is that it's a pity. The Japanese never apologise for what they did in Nanking.
lohasqueen1 1 month ago
@TheLemrak Tell me when and where the Japanese government apologised for the Nanking massacre in public, please.
lohasqueen1 1 month ago
@TheLemrak Please help me, tell me where's the Japanese government's apology. I am looking for it for years and haven't found it, please help me if you know more the Japanese government attitude about the history of the Nanking massacre. There's my relatives who were killed there. I want to tell them so that they can feel peace in heaven.
lohasqueen1 1 month ago
@TheLemrak If you are not lying, please tell me when and where the Japanese government made the apology. You can do it, i believe you. You must have some proof, please show us here in public.
lohasqueen1 1 month ago
@TheLemrak
lanzazhong 1 month ago
@TheLemrak chinese people dont forget,you fucking fool,hope you are a japs,
lanzazhong 1 month ago
@lanzazhong You either need a chill pill or u need to stfu. Because you're making Chinese people look bad. Calling others stupid wont make you smarter.
aiyjai 1 month ago
@TheLemrak when the Japanese done what the west Grerman people have already done
gysxff 1 month ago
@TheLemrak the japanese already apologized? when?They never did, some of them never admit there was a war. I'm not saying every Japanese, but sadly it is the truth that SOME of them does not admit this was happened before
sethcohen1987 1 month ago
@TheLemrak to tell you the truth i wouldn't know what it was like to live in china during the sino-japan era of rape, torture, and killings, but based on the history books i have read, its unbelievable what they did, but hey the past is the past let bygones be bygones, can't really say for everyone else since i didn't live in that generation and by the way I'm Chinese :)
hiwo91 1 month ago
@TheLemrak Well you are right, i don't see Germans or Rusians doing any apology's what so ever.
logixx87 1 month ago
@TheLemrak um. No. Japan has not ever issued an official apology. Not the current generation, and certainly not any generations before.
Olivertheshiny 1 month ago
@TheLemrak The japanese never officially apologize to the raping and tortures of comfort women and civilians , only twice of apologies claiming sorry for the DAMAGE to the countries involved , and.... that's it? Also , how about the official history textbooks used in japanese secondary schools? They are all amended by the government changing lots of facts , no mention of cruelty to comfort women , and the Nanking civilians WELCOMED the japanese soldiers? Seriously fuck off!
JayZLife 1 month ago
@harmoniew Go read ''serbian war'' . Women were beaten to death with lead sticks, raped and afterwards their genitals were burned with fire or butchered with knives, their breasts cut off, theres even a picture of a woman still alive, whos baby was cut ou of her with a knive...the just cut her whole stomach off....go read that...serbs still haven't gotten an apology...
Hrko1992 1 month ago
@harmoniew so true. my grandfather was a sworn witness of what they did in our country. they've seen women and babies mutilated and dead bodies in rivers...if they do apologize...not accepted because it will truly take more than that
utoybabypa 1 month ago
ya it looks kinda shit :/
KillaNinja0 2 months ago
is it going to be released in Denver?
LoveChillCool 2 months ago
Remarkable
deoadonis 2 months ago
can't wait to c it. Bale's amazing...
LoveUWhenSeptEnds 2 months ago
first
sanderflop 2 months ago