Okay Ms FreeTilly10 while you seating over their you need to change your name because you want your poor tilly to go back to the ocean well think about this he is not a Shamu any more his new name is Killer Whale thats it KILLER WHALE
i personally do not see anything wrong with Tilikum behaving like this. as much as i hate to see him upset, he should not be forced to perform if he chooses not to. i am actually pro- captivity, but we all agree that he should never have to do something against his will. so, i believe the trainers did the right thing by trying to work with him and calm him down.
Poor orca. Imagine living in a very small house (made of glass), with a huge TV that shows only yourself, with a very stupid neighbour who listen to the same song everyday.
I'm sure they spend lots of money and i'm sure the park is worried about the animals, but Seaworld is not a care center. It is an entertainment cage and it doesn't feel right.
Yes we get that people want to save the whales, if they want to save the whales they shouldn't be doing this dumb tricks, also we can save them by not killing them, not catching their fish, but not by putting them is a cage and making them work.
SeaWorld actually hasnt taken any animals from the wild! They have rescued them because they havent been fit to go back out into the wild. 85% of the animals are born into the parks! Get your facts straight before you go making assumptions. I worked there and they spend millons on taking care of their whales and animals. They never whatsoever make the whales do anything. If they don't perform they don't perform.
Good I am glad that poor ocar didn't preform , they are not meant to be preforms they are meant to be inthe wild where they can be free ..... not in little holding tanks and thou i feel sorry for the people who have died at the killer whales mercy but do you them the killer whales, i should think not. Set them free and for you people who pay to go see these shows you should be ashamed of yourselves.
@simkittyrose32 SeaWorld actually hasnt taken any animals from the wild! They have rescued them because they havent been fit to go back out into the wild. 85% of the animals are born into the parks! Get your facts straight before you go making assumptions. I worked there and they spend millons on taking care of their whales and animals. They never whatsoever make the whales do anything. If they don't perform they don't perform.
if people are more concerned about being entertained then in admiring and loving an animal like an orca they got problems. I would of enjoyed it no matter what, I would of really loved to be at the pool side taking video too. he was basically unhappy about something it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know when an animal is upset or sick or depressed. I mean I can tell when my animals are not feeling well tho I might not be able to put my finger on it. he was obviously annoyed maybe the music.
Why not help them and give them more resources, and even more professional advice to make the place the whales call home more suitable? Instead of endless amounts of harassment. A PARTNERSHIP would be ideal. You wont stop places like SeaWorld from existing! Deal with it!!!
Matcat has convinced me that the parks do way more good than harm. The animals dont want to be caged.. but to me the only thing that restricts what SeaWorld can do for the animals is the people who are watching so closely, restricting them.
Wild orcas are still stolen from the sea......latest addition to SW collection: baby orca morgan. To be nursed back to health after being rescued from the dutch waddensea. Instead they sold her to Loro Parque. Now facing the life of sad circus clown and breeding stock. Worth millions for her wild genes introduced in SW inbred orca collection. Every one visiting any marine park is supporting ongoing suffering of these majestic wild creatures who are not suited for captivity. But then, who is?
Listen everyone: Without Seaworld, Alot of Marine Animals, would be dead right now. Also its thanks to everyone who boycotts Seaworld, that they took out the Manatee Conservation out of Seaworld San Diego, which was a Very Important Program for Marine Biologist here is San Diego, and For future Marine Biologist who want to Save the Animals.
you got a problem with Americans? we have enough problems with Peta already. The Trainer was told not to go in the pool with tilikum. Also the Trainer was told not to have her hair long. It was the Trainers Mistake. Have you ever taken a backstage tour of a Seaworld Park? Probably not. I have, since my Major is Entertainment Technology i have the right to see what goes on. And what Seaworld is Doing is a Great Cause to save the Species.
@VictoriaBell1992 apparently you need to check your attitude when posting something like that. Next time before opening your mouth check both sides of the story before posting.
@VictoriaBell1992 its called COLOR!!!! as in WALT DISNEY's WONDERFUL WORLD OF COLOR. look it up on youtube dumbass. And Again with the American bullshit. You got a Problem with Americans? Or are you just Mad that you cant win a Argument with a 22yr old who is fed up with People who think we are the Bastard Child of the English. SO GIVE IT UP..... OK!!!!!!
@Matcat375 Oh yeah save the species my ass, have you ever watched A Fall From Freedom? Go watch it and see the truth behind Seaworld. And see who's right, Im guessing it would be me. Dumbass.
@orcaandsims so you rather have them hunted down for whale oil and blubber, and used to feed people? Sure take the Flaws of what the Japanese did with the Dolphin pins and blame it on seaworld. Atleast they are trying to prevent the Extinction of the Species. If you check the List of Endangered Species. You will see the Orca's are on that list. So who is the Dumbass now? If you Also Check they Are Part of the Association of Zoo's and Aquariums.
@Matcat375 People have tried to help stop Japan from hunting whales and dolphins like say Whale Wars. Seriously go check out A Fall From Freedom and you will know what I'm talking about, then we can have a talk about it ok. I don't want to fight with you. Oh and I'm sorry If i called you a dumbass, I get so ticked off with everything.
@orcaandsims its understandable. The Reason why i wont Watch the Film,is because it is a Documentary. And working in the Entertainment Field, i am really Bias with those, cause i know they edit stuff to try to get there own point across. Same with the News Media.
@Matcat375 the only Orcas that are on the endangered species list are those who live in Puget Sound in British Columbia, Washington, the Georgia and Haro Straits. The Only Orca in captivity today is Lolita in Miami. Her family group was nearly wiped out during the capture which is why they are on the endangered species list.
@Matcat375 Whales are being hunted down in the name of "science", due to loop holes in the law surrounding the laws of killing whales for scientific purposes allows the Japanese to harvest the whales meat and all other valuable parts of the whale and sell it on the market cause the law makes it okay as long as the whale was killed for scientific purposes. Which the Japanese claim all there whaling is used for even though they really don't report anything to the world of science...
@Ryuuchild Killer Whales aren't targeted by any of the Whaling Countries. Russia does and can capture Orcas and always looks to Asia to sell them, but all have died before being shipped out. Iceland, Norway and Japan aim for the bigger baleen whales eg Sei, Minke, Right Whales etc...
@orcaandsims Since you want to Blame Seaworld for what they are doing, then why dont you go ahead and Blame all the Zoo's and Animal Parks as well. They are doing the Same thing that Sea World is Doing, SAVING the SPECIES!!!! YOU ARE A DUMBASS AND A HALF
@Matcat375 Look, go watch A Fall From Freedom on Youtube. I'm not officially blaming Seaworld and others but it's wrong to capture orcas from there natural habitat. They are not really saving the species only if they release them, but here's the thing they can't because they won't know how to feed themselves because they are used to being handfed. And the orcas being trapped in a concrete pool until they die, is not saving the species at all.
@orcaandsims The ones that they have in the parks are born in the parks. Due me a Favor, and im not trying to make this one into a fight, but next time you go to a Seaworld Park, go ahead a pay a little extra for one of there behind the scenes tours. I have done a Few of them. They show you stuff that you don't see in the public eye.
@Matcat375 So you've picked out the good parts, sure Seaworld does do some good things but if it were that important surely they would have done everything in their power to keep it. More to the point keeping a Whale that can swim 100s of miles each day and keeping it as a pet doing stunts, just a tad inhumane.
@Matcat375 If they were really out to save animals they would/should have become a rescue organization. However, that's not what we see today. Killer whale shows are NOT neccesary if Sea World wants to save manatees or any animal.
@SpottedTigress Maybe you Don't Understand who Seaworld is. There is 2 Parts to the company. How do i Know, Cause i Work for The Disneyland Resort. Seaworld is A Rescue Organization, and also a Entertainment Company. If they Were not a Rescue Organization, then why do they have the Seal of "Association of Zoo's and Aquariums"?
Disney's Animal Kingdom Does the Same Thing of what Seaworld Does, but Yet you want to pick on Seaworld. Seems like you are One Sided.
@Matcat375 OH- so you DON'T work for Sea Word. Okay, makes sense. The fact that they're a part of the AZA doesn't mean anything."Conservation" and "Education" are simply words zoos throw around to shield them from the real truth. They're out to make money. Not save animals. - Why not become a non profit organization?
@SpottedTigress You better be checking for facts. O look what i found a website that is part of Seaworld that has a .ORG!!! hmmm ORG mean ORGANIZATION. Hence 2 parts to the Company. You have Seaworld Entertainment which is owned by Blackstone, and then you have the Rescue Program that is Run by Seaworld themselves. And AZA does mean alot, they just dont hand out those Seals of Approval to anyone. The Zoo's and Aquariums have to meet Strict Guidelines. O btw i live in San Diego.
@Matcat375 I never said that they weren't an organization, idiot. You're getting off topic anyway. The point is that the world would be a lot better off without Sea World.Though they may save a couple hundred, they'll aso kill a couple hundred since they breed them in captivity. Not to mention they're bound to a life swimming in circles forever. It's a fact that they've killed more orcas than they've saved. As for the manatees, they'll hand them over to a facility that *really* cares.
@SpottedTigress Where is your Proof?!?!? Where is the Proof that Seaworld has Killed More Orcas than they saved? OK If Seaworld Disappears from the World, What will Happen to all those People Who Have Jobs at Seaworld and Busch Gardens and Discovery Cove? The World Economy is in the Shit Already. The Manatees are already gone thanks to the Assholes who Support Peta. You have a Choice, Either have Seaworld Disappear and let the Orcas Be Hunted down for Blubber and Whale Oil, or
@Matcat375 Proof us in on the internet, deary. I'm asuming you wish to avoid the evidence. Seems to me like you're the one who's really one sided ;) Also, your arrogant argument is full of fase cause claims and false dichotomy. Please try making a better argument from now on, okay?
@Matcat375 Orcas aren't hunted. I live on Vancouver Island, home of the Pacific island orca pods. They aren't hunted. And the people would get other jobs, just like most people do when they lose or quit their first job. Dozens of trainers have come and gone on to other occupations. It's not the end of the world to lose a job.
@SpottedTigress or Save them so we can have a Future that is Promising. I will Admit that Seaworld can do a little bit better, but they also have there hands tied behind there backs due to Politics who wont let them Expand their Parks to Accommodate the Animals They Rescue. Next Time go to the Park and take there behind the Scenes Tour, maybe that will open up your eyes and to stop being one sided. END OF DISCUSSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Matcat375 I've been to Sea World and I've done a lot of research. I know what I believe about them and there's tons of evidence to back it up. Aside from the morality issue of keeping animals in a concrete tank. You seem to be the ignoring the other side of captivity, so who's really the one sided person?
@Matcat375 And what orcas is SW 'saving'? Many of their orcas are the ones THEY bred to restock their supply of aging and dead whales (ironically, many of which died because of breeding) and the rest are the same aged whales (30, 40 plus years old) that were poached out of the wild for entertainment, like Tillikum. And since they aren't releasing ANY orcas they breed EVER, where's the conservation or 'saving' of wild orcas?
@Matcat375 yeah cause the trainers on the behind the scenes tour are going to say anything that makes them look better to the public. Its called good public relations. Also about your comment about them having captive born orcas, you should know that many of there whales are breed way to young, preagnent way to often, and most of them are inbreed. Kohana in Loro Parque(which is owned by Sea World) is pregnant and the father of her baby is her Uncle.
@Ryuuchild When an animal starts its reproductive cycle, it's able to reproduce safely. Orca's in the Wild probably give birht to still born or quick to die calves. If they even get to term with their first calves. Orcas are very sexual and mating happens from a very young age (from around the age of 3) in the wild as well as captivity, it helps form relationships and bonds. They also don't have the concept of inbreeding. That's a huge human morality.
@IAmADalek Previous analyses using data through 1992 showed that captive orcas have higher mortality rates than wild orcas; new analyses examining data through 2010 confirm that the situation has not improved in the past 18 years, and in fact has worsened. Captivity is, in essence, poor habitat for orcas, causing early death.
Captive female orcas give birth too young and too often, leading to both high adult and high infant mortality.
@IAmADalek Wild females are sexually mature around the age of 15 years old and give birth to calves every five years or so. Kohanna gave birth to her first calf at the age of 9 and quickly abandoned her calf. Her calf Adans father is Keto (Keto and Kohanna's mother, share the same father). There have been 30 captive still births, 12 of these resulted in the death of the mother from complications.
@Matcat375 I live on VI also. It is the place where the world trade in live orca began. Victoria, BC. I am an orca sympathizer. Matcat, you have it wrong. The captive program saves more than it wastes. The saving comes from the education that we get from having the orca at our fingertips. We understand their health issues becuase of captivity. We understand their diet because of capitivity. We must keep them in tanks. If we are to be their steward, it is an ugly truth.
@bigtrav60 It's true that we've learned new information about orcas from the captive slaves. However, it's vastly different from observing them in the wild. As for education, what are we learning from this footage here?
@SpottedTigress By the Way without the Zoo's Conservation and Education, we will be losing alot of Species right now. For Example the San Diego Wild Animal Park has the last 2 Northern White Rhinos in the World. So without AZA they would of been Extinct years Ago, and soon they will be thanks to the People who wants all the Animals Let Free from the Zoo's and Aquariums
@Matcat375 Good for them! SO they're not going to be setting them free. What good does it do if they're stuck in an unnatural enviornment? It doesn't help the population in the wild therefore it doesn't help the ecosystem either! The only thing it "conserves" is the money in their pockets. Instead of working to breed them and keep them inside, work to teach them how to be wild again. It's possible for the rhino species.
@Matcat375 And thanks to SW lots of orcas are dead from over-breeding, stress and captivity-based infections. But I guess it breaks even to you. Shock of shocks, there's other places to see Manatees. SW isn't the only place on planet Earth to have these marine creatures.
@Matcat375 endangered species? Killer whales are endagered when their taken from natural world put in a little tank to perform for idiots like you.Go see Killer whales in their natural environment if you want to see them where they belong.
@tcguitarsounds And harrass wild whales? Push them into more trouble? They're already in trouble through lack of food and pollution. Put more stress on them by surrounding them by boats more than they already are? Great idea.
@IAmADalek trouble because of man period!Why don't you catch all the baby oracas in put them in seaworld for your entertainment.Humans are so dumb!No argument truth is killer whales belong in their natural enviorment!done
@Matcat375 seaworld is horrible you dummy.taking a baby killer whale from it's pod real humane.It's like your 3 years old and suddenly some greedy man takes you away from you family and you'll never see them again!Look at Keiko's story.It's the saddest story i've ever seen.The greedy man just making money doesn't have any feelings.Humans are so stupid.Whales are smarter!
@tcguitarsounds How are the Horrible???? I dont see any other Company trying to Save them? 1 Bad thing and everyone thinks Seaworld is Bad. You guys are Idiots. They Are trying to Do the best they Can with the Resources they Have. The Only Reason why they had to turn into a Theme Park is To off set the Cost of taking care of the Animals. Besides i dont see anyone else trying to save them thats a company
@tcguitarsounds SeaWorld actually hasnt taken any animals from the wild! They have rescued them because they havent been fit to go back out into the wild. 85% of the animals are born into the parks! Get your facts straight before you go making assumptions. I worked there and they spend millons on taking care of their whales and animals. They never whatsoever make the whales do anything. If they don't perform they don't perform.
@trainengineer2 The ones taken away from their natural is cruel and horrible.
Killer whales that don't live in seaworld in a tank to perform for greedy man live longer too.Killer Whales don't belong in seaworld.no argument.done.
@trainengineer2 Loro Parque Tenerife, Spain is owned by Sea World. And they just acquired a baby Orca named Morgan who could have been released to her family but is now in a small concrete tank where she is being harassed and raked but her fellow whales. The whales are being born into captivity are inbreed and over breed, which recently killed two of Sea Worlds whales while they were in labor. They are also two young and have been know to abandon there offspring.
@Ryuuchild Loro Parque isn't owned by Sea World, check that one out first. Morgan would've died if she'd been released, but that's fine with a lot of anti's. She's not being harrassed, she's fitting into a new social hierarchy, she'll be raking the others too. One whale died in labour (not two, but another female and one young male also died). Two Orca's have abandoned calves and we can handraise them. It's not good and not wanted, but it can be done.
@IAmADalek I was under the impression that Sea World owned Loro Parque sinca all of the orcas are on loan from Sea World and still are owned by them. Also Sea World has supplemented the staff with they're own. If Morgan was released to her birth pod she would have done just fine as she was young and at that point would have still been learning how to be a proper whale from her mother and her pod.
@IAmADalek EVen if the pod was not her birth pod, Orca pods have been know to adopt other Orcas. I'm sure that she would also have been monitored by scientists, and if she was not doing well she would have been removed. Raking is a way orcas show dominance by forcefully scratching at another with their teeth. This would not happen as often in the wild and not as bad as Keet does to his tank mates like Tekoa. This aggression is extreme and caused by fake pods that captivity creates.
@tcguitarsounds SeaWorld actually hasnt taken any animals from the wild! They have rescued them because they havent been fit to go back out into the wild. 85% of the animals are born into the parks! Get your facts straight before you go making assumptions. I worked there and they spend millons on taking care of their whales and animals. They never whatsoever make the whales do anything. If they don't perform they don't perform.
@Matcat375 It still doesn't excuse them from keeping an intelligent huge mammal that uses echolocation in a tiny tank playing that revolting music and expecting him to perform for them! disgusting!
@Matcat375 Way to be mature by calling those who don't like the Orca shows at Sea World "Losers". I also fail to see how it is those of us who boycott Sea Worlds fault that they removed the Manatee Conservation out when Sea World makes about $1 billion dollars a year. And while treating and releasing hurt and injured animals back into the wild is great, but none of their wild born whales where sick or injured when they were captured. Also Orcas are not an endangered species.
@Ryuuchild No their 5 wild capture Orca's weren't ill or sick. If you hadn't noticed the entire world was capturing Orcas then. The Capture of Orcas ended before the 90's and even then SW had stopped catching Wild animals and were breeding them successfully. Orcas are quickly becoming an endagered species thanks to lack of fish and pollution.
@IAmADalek That the entire point. These whales that were caught were healthy animals that were in no danger of dying when they were captured. I was just saying that while they make a great show at saving and releasing sick and injured animals like turtles and manatees, while in the past they caught healthy animals and some have been in captivity ever since then. Also all Whales are slowly becoming endangered, but the solution is not to put them in tanks and preform shows
Example Flipper might have lived a tragically short life, because of his life, and him being in everyone’s living room, when it came to light that Dolphins were being caught in Tuna nets, people were outraged, and staged boycotts, that were successful.
So while Flippers life was short, but his life saved a generation of dolphins. SeaWorld helps millions connect with marine life, and the end result will be the salvation of the species.
He's a wild animal, the trainers dont make the animals do somthing they dont want to do. I live in orlando fl, and im becoming a dolphin trainer.
The whales that preform in the show were born in captivity. Other animals in the park, are ALL rescued. SeaWorld does not capture any animals that dont need medical attention.
The animals in captivity at SeaWorld can never be put back into the wild b\c they would not survive, they do not know how to hunt on there own.
@xPurpleSlurpiix Tilikum was captured in Iceland in the 1970's. He had no medical issue. There are 11 other orcas that are performing in SW parks around the US that were captured from the wild (during the live captures) and not for medical reasons. They can't be released, however they can be retired to open ocean sea pens. And you are blind if you think they arn't making the animals do what they dont want to. Thats what a show is! Dominance from human to animal, Do you think Tili wanted...
@xPurpleSlurpiix to be captured and put in a fish bowl? NO! He was swimming wild with his family. The other 11 were doing the same when they were forced using seal bombs, nets, and lassos into a shallow cove. There they were ripped away from their families, some members of the pod died, and they were all screaming for their lives. Tilikum was dragged to the marine park industry. The ones born into captivity dont know any different, however that doesn't mean they still arn't genetically...
@xPurpleSlurpiix built to be captive. Maybe you need to learn your facts. I'll get you started: The average life span of an orca in captivity is less than half of those in the wild. There are some females swimming in the pacific ocean right now that have reached over 80 years of age...with the majority being 20 or older. The average life span of a captive orca: 2-12 years. Tilikum is trying to tell you people he is not happy. He refuses to perform, kills people, and you still dont listen.
He's a wild animal, the trainers dont make the animals do somthing they dont want to do. I live in orlando fl, and im becoming a dolphin trainer.
The whales that preform in the show were born in captivity. Other animals in the park, are ALL rescued. SeaWorld does not capture any animals that dont need medical attention.
The animals in captivity at SeaWorld can never be put back in captivity b\c they would not survive, they do not know how to hunt on there own.
goddddddddddddd!!! y cant ppl realise that this is not where they belong,,, its showing u hes fed up!! let them go!!! and who in their right mind would go watch these kind of shows.. bloody selfish people!! can u just imagine what the whales punishment was? Ass**les
@DolphinTrainer101 this is proof that orcas are not "FORCED" to do tricks. they know that they are bigger and more powerful than the trainers. the trainers are pretty much their servants. they get their food for them instead of them having to catch it themselves
@DolphinTrainer101 EXACTLY!!! people think they are forced if they dont want to then they dont that simple!! this video shows that...they are not forced they do it if they want to but according to some (freedomfororcas) they are too dumb to show when they are not happy.
First, that is an opinion. Second, by your standards here, SW is far from the only place that is a "disgrace." Your basically telling me you are against every single animal that is in human care all over the world, as a pet, or in any zoological facility.
@RingneckDoveFan are you actually thick.... a failure or not to YOUR standards... he got to swim in an OCEAN not a tiny pool.... im sure HE doesnt see it as a failure, im sure HE prefferred that than a pool. IDIOTS!
Keiko died trying to get takeouts from people and letting children swim with him. He was lethargic before he basically killed himself by stranding right before he died. I thought wild orcas could live to be 50 to 90?
Um. He's an animal. Animals take what they get and adapt. They don't sit their and go, "I WUNNAH BIGA TAINK TAAHH SWIMMY INEH." Keiko was content in Oregon. As with Mexico. He should have just stayed in Oregon and then later moved to a park with other orcas.
lol. So just because he got to swim in a deserted ocean for miles on end, instead of swimming in circles with human attention and other orcas, it was a "success?" Wow. You sure have low standards. Orcas are pack animals. He had NO pod. He had NO way to get his natural diet. He was NEVER free. His "release" was a failure. If you want to think otherwise, go right ahead. But his release will forever prove to zoological facilities that releasing orcas will never work. I'll PM you it.
BTW there have been more then DOZENS of incidents involving captive orcas and their trainers. But you think SW is going to announce it? NO. Loro Parque, their male Keto killed a trainer two months before Dawns death. And before then one of their female trainers was seriously injured. The man that was killed kept a journal, and had been considering quitting for some time because of numerous incidents that kept occurring with the whales. And that's just their 4 whales
@RingneckDoveFan LOW STANDARDS......... the reason he was put in that position in the end because humans captured him to put him in a TANK for money. ive seen footage of keiko when he was in the ocean, i saw his skin improve, the weight he gained... him breeching of his own accord not because he was asked to. he was ALONE in his pool in mexico.. im sure being ALONE in the ocean was a far better life than alone in a fucking POOL. why dont you people get it...
Uh..he improved by moving to Oregon, another tiny tank. Hah yeah. And Keiko's release for for MONEY. $20 million to be exact. Talk about a huge waste of good cash that could have made a difference for organizations who actually help these animals. No. He was not alone in Mexico. He had his trainers and bottlenose dolphins. But if he was moved to SW after Oregon, he would have been just fine.
Why don't you get that some animals just don't care if they are in pool or ocean?
@RingneckDoveFan The tank in Oregon was huge compared to any other tank today and it was all for one whale. Also people and dolphins are no substitute for his real family no matter how much he loved them. Fact is if he was in the wild he probably would have eaten his dolphin buddies. Also how do you know that they don't care about being in a tank or the ocean?
@Ryuuchild The tank in Oregon was actually surprisnly small. They made it look huge but if I remember correctly it wasn't much better than the total space of SW's orca stadium. Much smaller than Marineland in France.
@RingneckDoveFan we could argue forever. the bottom line is he and every other orca should never of been captured. seaworld is a disgrace as they lie to the public to make everything seem fine and good when it isnt. .... i believe the trainers and most staff love the animals truely, i believe they care for them the best they can, i also believe that the pools are large and clean, but ........ it is NOT the ocean! and it is unfair and cruel.
Orcas are not captured anymore. They are born into that life. SeaWorld's has captured 17 orcas total throughout their history, and the last orca they ever captured, was Kasatka.
Yep, its not the ocean. But their are many animals confined all over the world. Whether they are pets, performing animals, or working animals. So I hope you are also anti-pets as well.
@RingneckDoveFan you can't compare animals that have never been domesticated to animals that have been domesticated over thousands of years. Also pets can survive both in a house and the wild. Animals in zoos, aquariums, and circuses are taught to depend on there human caretakers and can never survive in the wild again.
@Ryuuchild Only pet Cats could have a chance at surviving in the wild. Most others (including Rodents) would die quickly from malnutrition. Animals in Zoo's would die as well as aquaria. Circus' are hateful places that do abuse and torture their animals, protest against the Big Tops as much as you like.
@IAmADalek All I was saying that common house animals have been taught to rely on humans, while all other animals in captivity due still retain most of they're wild nature. So trying to compare the two is like saying an apple and a cow are the same thing. I agree with you about the circus it is a horrible place.
Not to mention that pneumonia is one of the leading causes of death in CAPTIVE cetaceans, it makes no sense arguing against keikos release because he came down with pneumonia. Probably would of happened long before then if he had of been left in Mexico.
@AnubisStar1921 I agree. I've heard that if they didn't move Keiko when they did they would not have been able to to move him at all cause he wouldn't have survived the move.
His death was horribly sad, but considering that a wild male orca's lifespan is about 40, he wasn't too far off the mark. Simply put, he was old and it's a guarantee that a hard life of sickness and deplorable living conditions added to early aging and ultimately a not too early death, NOT the wild.
Your statements continue to be filled with ignorant and untrue facts, especially when it concerns keiko. Why don't you just stop before you embarrass yourself even more?
Keiko was "in the wild" officially for over a year and a half before his death, not mere months. And even before that he had been taken on see walks for over a year where it was normal for him to dissapear for several days at a time.
He initiated several encounters with wild orcas.
In the some 60 days between his journey from Iceland to Norway it was obvious he had been hunting and feeding himself, as he was still in good health in Norway. Not emaciated or sick.
I do agree wwc are not a good thing starit to the whales just about the direct polution they made "on top a the whales" however I've been whaching whales all over the world from shore and from boat (mainly from shore) and some wwc are doing a very good eduction work ,beside the polution they made and the disturbance they could made to the whales.
other compagnie are pretty bad and don't behave how they should, but mainly it's getting better.
Thank you for sharing this video. I also want people to know that in Tiaji the bottle nose dolphins are herded into The Cove where they see thier pods family getting slaughtered 4 ppl while the best looking ones are sold to these horrible bathtubs Whales and dolphins swim hundreds of miles a day and to be locked in a pen without your family causes insanity and this is why they are killers. People MUST stop giving them money for pure torture. You can take a boat ride and see them in the wild.
Ok obviously this wasn't an actual performance seeing as how One Ocean didn't even debut until Memorial Day weekend. The fact that the trainers are not around doing their usual bits during splash time or running around getting the crowd hyped up is a big detail. This was obviously some "sound" run through and ppl just filed it like they do when the stadium is open for viewing and what not.
To me, it looks like Tilikum is not REFUSING to perform, but is rather too SICK to perform. Personally I think he put in his best effort, in order to not be punished for another 13 months. In fact he was taken to the medical pool afterwards. Congratulations $eaworld on physically and emotionally damaging this precious whale, on your 13 months punishment strategy.
@AngelViolet22 i agree with tilly being sick but please dont say anything about seaworld they didnt emotinally damaged tilly they have never did my aunt works there as a trainner and some times takes me to work with her and i personaly got to see tilly he is doing awsome so :P
@RingneckDoveFan Yes, Keiko's release was not a success. But that does not mean that every release would fail. Many dolphins have been successfully released into the wild by first adjusting within natural sea pens. Ultimately release is up to them. Some may choose to spend their lives in the sea pen. Orcas are dolphins and we are still learning about them. We should be working on future releases right now, and what it would take for them to succeed. We can't give up because one release failed.
@cheyannmilan You shouldn't patronize them. We are talking about extremely intelligent non-human persons here. Hunting is instinctual. It is the life purpose of killer whales. It's like their occupation. Really, there is nothing that they can't learn. Especially if it is something that is natural and instinctive.
@cheyannmilan So killer whales can learn to do hundreds of "tricks" for humans...but you think that they can't "learn" how to do something as simple and instinctual as hunting their food with the help of their family? Are you ignorant?
@cheyannmilan Girl, you are 14 years! How the hell have you been "studying" killer whales since you were 4, pray tell? Once again you are patronizing them. Treating them as though they are dumb animals. First of all orca have very tight family bonds, are highly intelligent, have amazing memories. Plus hunting is INSTINCTUAL. If one orca didn't know how, for whatever reason, they are not stupid and will not sit there and let one of their own starve.
@cheyannmilan So you knew how to write and read at 4 years old? You can't even spell word properly now as it is, what makes you think I'm going to believe you were studying science and biology as a toddler? What do you mean no echolocation was there? And what does that have to do with releasing orca into the wild? You do realize there have been many successful dolphin releases right? And they knew how to hunt because it is instinctual.
@cheyannmilanJust don't expect me to believe what you say about studying at age 4. Orcas are animals capable of what is called "cultural learning." That means that throughout their lives they learn how to do things, and use different techniques by viewing each other and other animals. This has happened in captivity in Marineland. When orcas learned to catch sea gulls by luring them in with puked up fish. Soon all the whales there learned this. You think they wouldn't learn to hunt in the wild?
@RingneckDoveFan dude first thing they didnt stop feeding keiko people said let him free so they did he didnt know how to hunt any more so thats why they did come back and take care of him i was there when they did and he came back beacaues he couldent find his pod so shut up about keiko im a killerwhale lover seaworld is trying there best
Releasing him = stop feeding him. He never came back. He stayed with the 'researchers,' then when they finally stopped feeding him, he swam off. And he knew how to hunt, he just didn't have a pod to help him.
SeaWorld had practically NOTHING to do with his release... I don't know where you see me hatin' on SeaWorld.
His pod was no where to be found; which is one reason why he shouldn't have been released.
Okay Ms FreeTilly10 while you seating over their you need to change your name because you want your poor tilly to go back to the ocean well think about this he is not a Shamu any more his new name is Killer Whale thats it KILLER WHALE
De5Mario 2 days ago
i personally do not see anything wrong with Tilikum behaving like this. as much as i hate to see him upset, he should not be forced to perform if he chooses not to. i am actually pro- captivity, but we all agree that he should never have to do something against his will. so, i believe the trainers did the right thing by trying to work with him and calm him down.
chasethemagnificent 2 weeks ago 2
@chasethemagnificent I agree, but there's nothing that anyone can do to make him perform. There is physically nothing we could do
sparklywindsield88 1 week ago
Poor orca. Imagine living in a very small house (made of glass), with a huge TV that shows only yourself, with a very stupid neighbour who listen to the same song everyday.
I'm sure they spend lots of money and i'm sure the park is worried about the animals, but Seaworld is not a care center. It is an entertainment cage and it doesn't feel right.
Rosariadenovo 3 weeks ago
Yes we get that people want to save the whales, if they want to save the whales they shouldn't be doing this dumb tricks, also we can save them by not killing them, not catching their fish, but not by putting them is a cage and making them work.
MaryFilly135 1 month ago
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SeaWorld actually hasnt taken any animals from the wild! They have rescued them because they havent been fit to go back out into the wild. 85% of the animals are born into the parks! Get your facts straight before you go making assumptions. I worked there and they spend millons on taking care of their whales and animals. They never whatsoever make the whales do anything. If they don't perform they don't perform.
trainengineer2 1 month ago
this disgusts me seaworld are vile
spagbol2323 1 month ago
Good I am glad that poor ocar didn't preform , they are not meant to be preforms they are meant to be inthe wild where they can be free ..... not in little holding tanks and thou i feel sorry for the people who have died at the killer whales mercy but do you them the killer whales, i should think not. Set them free and for you people who pay to go see these shows you should be ashamed of yourselves.
simkittyrose32 1 month ago
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@simkittyrose32 SeaWorld actually hasnt taken any animals from the wild! They have rescued them because they havent been fit to go back out into the wild. 85% of the animals are born into the parks! Get your facts straight before you go making assumptions. I worked there and they spend millons on taking care of their whales and animals. They never whatsoever make the whales do anything. If they don't perform they don't perform.
trainengineer2 1 month ago
if people are more concerned about being entertained then in admiring and loving an animal like an orca they got problems. I would of enjoyed it no matter what, I would of really loved to be at the pool side taking video too. he was basically unhappy about something it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know when an animal is upset or sick or depressed. I mean I can tell when my animals are not feeling well tho I might not be able to put my finger on it. he was obviously annoyed maybe the music.
TheRosa63 1 month ago 2
you r wrong believe was a good show
katerina29672 1 month ago
Are you people stupid? Asking a orca to do a show? An orca refusing? Forcing an orca to do whatever?
This all is not possible you imbeciles. Its a fucking wild animal.. You cannot converse with it..
kontekijke 1 month ago
ok i just want to say that the Orcas in the show are ALWAYS ASKED to do the show, NOT FORCED. if he DOESENT WANT TO do it then he DOESNT HAVE TO.
coolyokia34 1 month ago 2
Poor Dawn.... I feel so sorry for her... R.I.P....Miss Brancheau...
gixxerboy555 2 months ago
That fucking beast is a serial-killer...!
gixxerboy555 2 months ago
They should have murdered that fucking beast!!!
gixxerboy555 2 months ago
this is disturbing, how is this legal ???
NorthSideCapone 2 months ago
Why not help them and give them more resources, and even more professional advice to make the place the whales call home more suitable? Instead of endless amounts of harassment. A PARTNERSHIP would be ideal. You wont stop places like SeaWorld from existing! Deal with it!!!
SickSavior 2 months ago
Matcat has convinced me that the parks do way more good than harm. The animals dont want to be caged.. but to me the only thing that restricts what SeaWorld can do for the animals is the people who are watching so closely, restricting them.
SickSavior 2 months ago
Wild orcas are still stolen from the sea......latest addition to SW collection: baby orca morgan. To be nursed back to health after being rescued from the dutch waddensea. Instead they sold her to Loro Parque. Now facing the life of sad circus clown and breeding stock. Worth millions for her wild genes introduced in SW inbred orca collection. Every one visiting any marine park is supporting ongoing suffering of these majestic wild creatures who are not suited for captivity. But then, who is?
holyblizzz 2 months ago 2
what a dumb username ! tilly will never be freed
KingsProduction50 3 months ago
How sick and pathetic is that? Disgusting at the expense of the poor animals.
labetsybel 3 months ago
Listen everyone: Without Seaworld, Alot of Marine Animals, would be dead right now. Also its thanks to everyone who boycotts Seaworld, that they took out the Manatee Conservation out of Seaworld San Diego, which was a Very Important Program for Marine Biologist here is San Diego, and For future Marine Biologist who want to Save the Animals.
Thanks Losers
Matcat375 4 months ago 10
@Matcat375 You're such an idiot its unreal, let me guess you're from America?
VictoriaBell1992 3 months ago
@VictoriaBell1992
you got a problem with Americans? we have enough problems with Peta already. The Trainer was told not to go in the pool with tilikum. Also the Trainer was told not to have her hair long. It was the Trainers Mistake. Have you ever taken a backstage tour of a Seaworld Park? Probably not. I have, since my Major is Entertainment Technology i have the right to see what goes on. And what Seaworld is Doing is a Great Cause to save the Species.
So politely piss off please
Matcat375 3 months ago
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VictoriaBell1992 3 months ago
@VictoriaBell1992 apparently you need to check your attitude when posting something like that. Next time before opening your mouth check both sides of the story before posting.
Matcat375 3 months ago
@Matcat375 That doesn't make any sense, go design some costumes.
VictoriaBell1992 3 months ago
@VictoriaBell1992 Why design costumes, if i can design light shows with Disney, o wait i did, its called World of Color.
Matcat375 3 months ago
@Matcat375 COLOUR! You Americans cant even copy a language probably!
VictoriaBell1992 3 months ago
@VictoriaBell1992 its called COLOR!!!! as in WALT DISNEY's WONDERFUL WORLD OF COLOR. look it up on youtube dumbass. And Again with the American bullshit. You got a Problem with Americans? Or are you just Mad that you cant win a Argument with a 22yr old who is fed up with People who think we are the Bastard Child of the English. SO GIVE IT UP..... OK!!!!!!
Matcat375 3 months ago
@Matcat375 Being a stereotypical America with all your drama and lack of wit.....
VictoriaBell1992 3 months ago
@VictoriaBell1992 rather have the drama, then being egotistical
Matcat375 3 months ago
@Matcat375 Oh yeah save the species my ass, have you ever watched A Fall From Freedom? Go watch it and see the truth behind Seaworld. And see who's right, Im guessing it would be me. Dumbass.
orcaandsims 3 months ago
@orcaandsims so you rather have them hunted down for whale oil and blubber, and used to feed people? Sure take the Flaws of what the Japanese did with the Dolphin pins and blame it on seaworld. Atleast they are trying to prevent the Extinction of the Species. If you check the List of Endangered Species. You will see the Orca's are on that list. So who is the Dumbass now? If you Also Check they Are Part of the Association of Zoo's and Aquariums.
Matcat375 3 months ago
@Matcat375 People have tried to help stop Japan from hunting whales and dolphins like say Whale Wars. Seriously go check out A Fall From Freedom and you will know what I'm talking about, then we can have a talk about it ok. I don't want to fight with you. Oh and I'm sorry If i called you a dumbass, I get so ticked off with everything.
orcaandsims 3 months ago
@orcaandsims its understandable. The Reason why i wont Watch the Film,is because it is a Documentary. And working in the Entertainment Field, i am really Bias with those, cause i know they edit stuff to try to get there own point across. Same with the News Media.
Matcat375 3 months ago
@Matcat375 the only Orcas that are on the endangered species list are those who live in Puget Sound in British Columbia, Washington, the Georgia and Haro Straits. The Only Orca in captivity today is Lolita in Miami. Her family group was nearly wiped out during the capture which is why they are on the endangered species list.
Ryuuchild 3 weeks ago
@Matcat375 Whales are being hunted down in the name of "science", due to loop holes in the law surrounding the laws of killing whales for scientific purposes allows the Japanese to harvest the whales meat and all other valuable parts of the whale and sell it on the market cause the law makes it okay as long as the whale was killed for scientific purposes. Which the Japanese claim all there whaling is used for even though they really don't report anything to the world of science...
Ryuuchild 3 weeks ago
@Ryuuchild Killer Whales aren't targeted by any of the Whaling Countries. Russia does and can capture Orcas and always looks to Asia to sell them, but all have died before being shipped out. Iceland, Norway and Japan aim for the bigger baleen whales eg Sei, Minke, Right Whales etc...
IAmADalek 1 week ago
@IAmADalek I was commenting on a earlier post by one of the other commentators. I know that Killer Whales aren't hunted by whalers.
Ryuuchild 1 week ago
@orcaandsims Since you want to Blame Seaworld for what they are doing, then why dont you go ahead and Blame all the Zoo's and Animal Parks as well. They are doing the Same thing that Sea World is Doing, SAVING the SPECIES!!!! YOU ARE A DUMBASS AND A HALF
Matcat375 3 months ago
@Matcat375 Look, go watch A Fall From Freedom on Youtube. I'm not officially blaming Seaworld and others but it's wrong to capture orcas from there natural habitat. They are not really saving the species only if they release them, but here's the thing they can't because they won't know how to feed themselves because they are used to being handfed. And the orcas being trapped in a concrete pool until they die, is not saving the species at all.
orcaandsims 3 months ago
@orcaandsims The ones that they have in the parks are born in the parks. Due me a Favor, and im not trying to make this one into a fight, but next time you go to a Seaworld Park, go ahead a pay a little extra for one of there behind the scenes tours. I have done a Few of them. They show you stuff that you don't see in the public eye.
Matcat375 3 months ago
@Matcat375 So you've picked out the good parts, sure Seaworld does do some good things but if it were that important surely they would have done everything in their power to keep it. More to the point keeping a Whale that can swim 100s of miles each day and keeping it as a pet doing stunts, just a tad inhumane.
m4tty4england 2 months ago
@Matcat375 If they were really out to save animals they would/should have become a rescue organization. However, that's not what we see today. Killer whale shows are NOT neccesary if Sea World wants to save manatees or any animal.
SpottedTigress 2 months ago
@SpottedTigress Maybe you Don't Understand who Seaworld is. There is 2 Parts to the company. How do i Know, Cause i Work for The Disneyland Resort. Seaworld is A Rescue Organization, and also a Entertainment Company. If they Were not a Rescue Organization, then why do they have the Seal of "Association of Zoo's and Aquariums"?
Disney's Animal Kingdom Does the Same Thing of what Seaworld Does, but Yet you want to pick on Seaworld. Seems like you are One Sided.
Matcat375 2 months ago
@Matcat375 OH- so you DON'T work for Sea Word. Okay, makes sense. The fact that they're a part of the AZA doesn't mean anything."Conservation" and "Education" are simply words zoos throw around to shield them from the real truth. They're out to make money. Not save animals. - Why not become a non profit organization?
SpottedTigress 2 months ago
@SpottedTigress You better be checking for facts. O look what i found a website that is part of Seaworld that has a .ORG!!! hmmm ORG mean ORGANIZATION. Hence 2 parts to the Company. You have Seaworld Entertainment which is owned by Blackstone, and then you have the Rescue Program that is Run by Seaworld themselves. And AZA does mean alot, they just dont hand out those Seals of Approval to anyone. The Zoo's and Aquariums have to meet Strict Guidelines. O btw i live in San Diego.
Matcat375 2 months ago
@Matcat375 I never said that they weren't an organization, idiot. You're getting off topic anyway. The point is that the world would be a lot better off without Sea World.Though they may save a couple hundred, they'll aso kill a couple hundred since they breed them in captivity. Not to mention they're bound to a life swimming in circles forever. It's a fact that they've killed more orcas than they've saved. As for the manatees, they'll hand them over to a facility that *really* cares.
SpottedTigress 2 months ago
@SpottedTigress Where is your Proof?!?!? Where is the Proof that Seaworld has Killed More Orcas than they saved? OK If Seaworld Disappears from the World, What will Happen to all those People Who Have Jobs at Seaworld and Busch Gardens and Discovery Cove? The World Economy is in the Shit Already. The Manatees are already gone thanks to the Assholes who Support Peta. You have a Choice, Either have Seaworld Disappear and let the Orcas Be Hunted down for Blubber and Whale Oil, or
Matcat375 2 months ago
@Matcat375 Proof us in on the internet, deary. I'm asuming you wish to avoid the evidence. Seems to me like you're the one who's really one sided ;) Also, your arrogant argument is full of fase cause claims and false dichotomy. Please try making a better argument from now on, okay?
SpottedTigress 2 months ago
@Matcat375 Orcas aren't hunted. I live on Vancouver Island, home of the Pacific island orca pods. They aren't hunted. And the people would get other jobs, just like most people do when they lose or quit their first job. Dozens of trainers have come and gone on to other occupations. It's not the end of the world to lose a job.
belongtotoday 2 months ago
@SpottedTigress or Save them so we can have a Future that is Promising. I will Admit that Seaworld can do a little bit better, but they also have there hands tied behind there backs due to Politics who wont let them Expand their Parks to Accommodate the Animals They Rescue. Next Time go to the Park and take there behind the Scenes Tour, maybe that will open up your eyes and to stop being one sided. END OF DISCUSSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Matcat375 2 months ago
@Matcat375 I've been to Sea World and I've done a lot of research. I know what I believe about them and there's tons of evidence to back it up. Aside from the morality issue of keeping animals in a concrete tank. You seem to be the ignoring the other side of captivity, so who's really the one sided person?
SpottedTigress 2 months ago
@Matcat375 And what orcas is SW 'saving'? Many of their orcas are the ones THEY bred to restock their supply of aging and dead whales (ironically, many of which died because of breeding) and the rest are the same aged whales (30, 40 plus years old) that were poached out of the wild for entertainment, like Tillikum. And since they aren't releasing ANY orcas they breed EVER, where's the conservation or 'saving' of wild orcas?
belongtotoday 2 months ago
@Matcat375 yeah cause the trainers on the behind the scenes tour are going to say anything that makes them look better to the public. Its called good public relations. Also about your comment about them having captive born orcas, you should know that many of there whales are breed way to young, preagnent way to often, and most of them are inbreed. Kohana in Loro Parque(which is owned by Sea World) is pregnant and the father of her baby is her Uncle.
Ryuuchild 3 weeks ago
@Ryuuchild When an animal starts its reproductive cycle, it's able to reproduce safely. Orca's in the Wild probably give birht to still born or quick to die calves. If they even get to term with their first calves. Orcas are very sexual and mating happens from a very young age (from around the age of 3) in the wild as well as captivity, it helps form relationships and bonds. They also don't have the concept of inbreeding. That's a huge human morality.
IAmADalek 1 week ago
@IAmADalek Previous analyses using data through 1992 showed that captive orcas have higher mortality rates than wild orcas; new analyses examining data through 2010 confirm that the situation has not improved in the past 18 years, and in fact has worsened. Captivity is, in essence, poor habitat for orcas, causing early death.
Captive female orcas give birth too young and too often, leading to both high adult and high infant mortality.
Ryuuchild 1 week ago
@IAmADalek Wild females are sexually mature around the age of 15 years old and give birth to calves every five years or so. Kohanna gave birth to her first calf at the age of 9 and quickly abandoned her calf. Her calf Adans father is Keto (Keto and Kohanna's mother, share the same father). There have been 30 captive still births, 12 of these resulted in the death of the mother from complications.
Ryuuchild 1 week ago
@Matcat375 I live on VI also. It is the place where the world trade in live orca began. Victoria, BC. I am an orca sympathizer. Matcat, you have it wrong. The captive program saves more than it wastes. The saving comes from the education that we get from having the orca at our fingertips. We understand their health issues becuase of captivity. We understand their diet because of capitivity. We must keep them in tanks. If we are to be their steward, it is an ugly truth.
bigtrav60 1 month ago
@bigtrav60 Im all for the Captive Program, As Long as they Save the Lives of the Orcas and other Mammals.
Matcat375 1 month ago
@bigtrav60 It's true that we've learned new information about orcas from the captive slaves. However, it's vastly different from observing them in the wild. As for education, what are we learning from this footage here?
SpottedTigress 1 month ago
@SpottedTigress By the Way without the Zoo's Conservation and Education, we will be losing alot of Species right now. For Example the San Diego Wild Animal Park has the last 2 Northern White Rhinos in the World. So without AZA they would of been Extinct years Ago, and soon they will be thanks to the People who wants all the Animals Let Free from the Zoo's and Aquariums
Matcat375 2 months ago
@Matcat375 Good for them! SO they're not going to be setting them free. What good does it do if they're stuck in an unnatural enviornment? It doesn't help the population in the wild therefore it doesn't help the ecosystem either! The only thing it "conserves" is the money in their pockets. Instead of working to breed them and keep them inside, work to teach them how to be wild again. It's possible for the rhino species.
SpottedTigress 2 months ago
@Matcat375 And thanks to SW lots of orcas are dead from over-breeding, stress and captivity-based infections. But I guess it breaks even to you. Shock of shocks, there's other places to see Manatees. SW isn't the only place on planet Earth to have these marine creatures.
belongtotoday 2 months ago
@belongtotoday Its the Only Place that you Can See Them Alive and Well, But i guess you dont Care about Endangered Species
Matcat375 1 month ago
@Matcat375 endangered species? Killer whales are endagered when their taken from natural world put in a little tank to perform for idiots like you.Go see Killer whales in their natural environment if you want to see them where they belong.
tcguitarsounds 1 month ago
@tcguitarsounds And harrass wild whales? Push them into more trouble? They're already in trouble through lack of food and pollution. Put more stress on them by surrounding them by boats more than they already are? Great idea.
IAmADalek 1 week ago
@IAmADalek trouble because of man period!Why don't you catch all the baby oracas in put them in seaworld for your entertainment.Humans are so dumb!No argument truth is killer whales belong in their natural enviorment!done
tcguitarsounds 1 week ago
@tcguitarsounds well if humans are dumb then that means your right along with us now think about that
De5Mario 2 days ago
@De5Mario i'm aware of my surroundings unlike you numbnuts.
tcguitarsounds 1 day ago
@Matcat375 That's funny because I see orcas alive and well from the beaches here all the time. ;-) You think the animals in parks are 'well'?
belongtotoday 1 month ago
@belongtotoday they are well!!!
trainengineer2 1 month ago
@Matcat375 seaworld is horrible you dummy.taking a baby killer whale from it's pod real humane.It's like your 3 years old and suddenly some greedy man takes you away from you family and you'll never see them again!Look at Keiko's story.It's the saddest story i've ever seen.The greedy man just making money doesn't have any feelings.Humans are so stupid.Whales are smarter!
tcguitarsounds 1 month ago
@tcguitarsounds How are the Horrible???? I dont see any other Company trying to Save them? 1 Bad thing and everyone thinks Seaworld is Bad. You guys are Idiots. They Are trying to Do the best they Can with the Resources they Have. The Only Reason why they had to turn into a Theme Park is To off set the Cost of taking care of the Animals. Besides i dont see anyone else trying to save them thats a company
Matcat375 1 month ago
@Matcat375 your not to bright are you?you must be about 13 years old?
The best they can?Taking a baby killer whale from it's pod and sending to see world.
Real nice.I swear humans are so dumb!!
tcguitarsounds 1 month ago
@tcguitarsounds SeaWorld actually hasnt taken any animals from the wild! They have rescued them because they havent been fit to go back out into the wild. 85% of the animals are born into the parks! Get your facts straight before you go making assumptions. I worked there and they spend millons on taking care of their whales and animals. They never whatsoever make the whales do anything. If they don't perform they don't perform.
trainengineer2 1 month ago
@trainengineer2 The ones taken away from their natural is cruel and horrible.
Killer whales that don't live in seaworld in a tank to perform for greedy man live longer too.Killer Whales don't belong in seaworld.no argument.done.
tcguitarsounds 1 month ago
@trainengineer2 Loro Parque Tenerife, Spain is owned by Sea World. And they just acquired a baby Orca named Morgan who could have been released to her family but is now in a small concrete tank where she is being harassed and raked but her fellow whales. The whales are being born into captivity are inbreed and over breed, which recently killed two of Sea Worlds whales while they were in labor. They are also two young and have been know to abandon there offspring.
Ryuuchild 3 weeks ago
@Ryuuchild Loro Parque isn't owned by Sea World, check that one out first. Morgan would've died if she'd been released, but that's fine with a lot of anti's. She's not being harrassed, she's fitting into a new social hierarchy, she'll be raking the others too. One whale died in labour (not two, but another female and one young male also died). Two Orca's have abandoned calves and we can handraise them. It's not good and not wanted, but it can be done.
IAmADalek 1 week ago
@IAmADalek I was under the impression that Sea World owned Loro Parque sinca all of the orcas are on loan from Sea World and still are owned by them. Also Sea World has supplemented the staff with they're own. If Morgan was released to her birth pod she would have done just fine as she was young and at that point would have still been learning how to be a proper whale from her mother and her pod.
Ryuuchild 1 week ago
@IAmADalek EVen if the pod was not her birth pod, Orca pods have been know to adopt other Orcas. I'm sure that she would also have been monitored by scientists, and if she was not doing well she would have been removed. Raking is a way orcas show dominance by forcefully scratching at another with their teeth. This would not happen as often in the wild and not as bad as Keet does to his tank mates like Tekoa. This aggression is extreme and caused by fake pods that captivity creates.
Ryuuchild 1 week ago
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@tcguitarsounds SeaWorld actually hasnt taken any animals from the wild! They have rescued them because they havent been fit to go back out into the wild. 85% of the animals are born into the parks! Get your facts straight before you go making assumptions. I worked there and they spend millons on taking care of their whales and animals. They never whatsoever make the whales do anything. If they don't perform they don't perform.
trainengineer2 1 month ago
@Matcat375 It still doesn't excuse them from keeping an intelligent huge mammal that uses echolocation in a tiny tank playing that revolting music and expecting him to perform for them! disgusting!
spagbol2323 1 month ago
@Matcat375 i agree with you i love seaworld
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@Matcat375 Way to be mature by calling those who don't like the Orca shows at Sea World "Losers". I also fail to see how it is those of us who boycott Sea Worlds fault that they removed the Manatee Conservation out when Sea World makes about $1 billion dollars a year. And while treating and releasing hurt and injured animals back into the wild is great, but none of their wild born whales where sick or injured when they were captured. Also Orcas are not an endangered species.
Ryuuchild 3 weeks ago
@Ryuuchild No their 5 wild capture Orca's weren't ill or sick. If you hadn't noticed the entire world was capturing Orcas then. The Capture of Orcas ended before the 90's and even then SW had stopped catching Wild animals and were breeding them successfully. Orcas are quickly becoming an endagered species thanks to lack of fish and pollution.
IAmADalek 1 week ago
@IAmADalek That the entire point. These whales that were caught were healthy animals that were in no danger of dying when they were captured. I was just saying that while they make a great show at saving and releasing sick and injured animals like turtles and manatees, while in the past they caught healthy animals and some have been in captivity ever since then. Also all Whales are slowly becoming endangered, but the solution is not to put them in tanks and preform shows
Ryuuchild 1 week ago
Orcas do not belong in captivity. It is wrong. Part of seaworld's money goes towards the dolphin hunts in japan. Boycott Seaworld.
iantaylor124 5 months ago 3
Example Flipper might have lived a tragically short life, because of his life, and him being in everyone’s living room, when it came to light that Dolphins were being caught in Tuna nets, people were outraged, and staged boycotts, that were successful.
So while Flippers life was short, but his life saved a generation of dolphins. SeaWorld helps millions connect with marine life, and the end result will be the salvation of the species.
ericefl 5 months ago 2
He's a wild animal, the trainers dont make the animals do somthing they dont want to do. I live in orlando fl, and im becoming a dolphin trainer.
The whales that preform in the show were born in captivity. Other animals in the park, are ALL rescued. SeaWorld does not capture any animals that dont need medical attention.
The animals in captivity at SeaWorld can never be put back into the wild b\c they would not survive, they do not know how to hunt on there own.
Learn your stuff!
xPurpleSlurpiix 5 months ago 3
@xPurpleSlurpiix Tilikum was captured in Iceland in the 1970's. He had no medical issue. There are 11 other orcas that are performing in SW parks around the US that were captured from the wild (during the live captures) and not for medical reasons. They can't be released, however they can be retired to open ocean sea pens. And you are blind if you think they arn't making the animals do what they dont want to. Thats what a show is! Dominance from human to animal, Do you think Tili wanted...
Sakima636 5 months ago
@xPurpleSlurpiix to be captured and put in a fish bowl? NO! He was swimming wild with his family. The other 11 were doing the same when they were forced using seal bombs, nets, and lassos into a shallow cove. There they were ripped away from their families, some members of the pod died, and they were all screaming for their lives. Tilikum was dragged to the marine park industry. The ones born into captivity dont know any different, however that doesn't mean they still arn't genetically...
Sakima636 5 months ago
@xPurpleSlurpiix built to be captive. Maybe you need to learn your facts. I'll get you started: The average life span of an orca in captivity is less than half of those in the wild. There are some females swimming in the pacific ocean right now that have reached over 80 years of age...with the majority being 20 or older. The average life span of a captive orca: 2-12 years. Tilikum is trying to tell you people he is not happy. He refuses to perform, kills people, and you still dont listen.
Sakima636 5 months ago 2
He's a wild animal, the trainers dont make the animals do somthing they dont want to do. I live in orlando fl, and im becoming a dolphin trainer.
The whales that preform in the show were born in captivity. Other animals in the park, are ALL rescued. SeaWorld does not capture any animals that dont need medical attention.
The animals in captivity at SeaWorld can never be put back in captivity b\c they would not survive, they do not know how to hunt on there own.
Learn your stuff!
xPurpleSlurpiix 5 months ago
goddddddddddddd!!! y cant ppl realise that this is not where they belong,,, its showing u hes fed up!! let them go!!! and who in their right mind would go watch these kind of shows.. bloody selfish people!! can u just imagine what the whales punishment was? Ass**les
amzyyyy 5 months ago
i hope that whale jumps out of that fish bowl and crushes the morons in the audience.
commieplot 5 months ago
Lol so he got bored during a show? Whales do this all the time its their choice to participate or not. Guest can just deal with it.
DolphinTrainer101 6 months ago 18
@DolphinTrainer101 this is proof that orcas are not "FORCED" to do tricks. they know that they are bigger and more powerful than the trainers. the trainers are pretty much their servants. they get their food for them instead of them having to catch it themselves
KingsProduction50 3 months ago
@DolphinTrainer101 EXACTLY!!! people think they are forced if they dont want to then they dont that simple!! this video shows that...they are not forced they do it if they want to but according to some (freedomfororcas) they are too dumb to show when they are not happy.
JoSweets1 2 months ago
tili is saying kiss his ass to all nasty things people say about him
SailorSexyDork 6 months ago
It's just despicable how they keep Orcas in such small tanks. They shouldn't even be kept in captivity in the first place.
Marhpa 6 months ago
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RingneckDoveFan 6 months ago
SEAWORLD looks amazing but it is a DISGRACE to these animals
HayleyLolita 6 months ago
@HayleyLolita
First, that is an opinion. Second, by your standards here, SW is far from the only place that is a "disgrace." Your basically telling me you are against every single animal that is in human care all over the world, as a pet, or in any zoological facility.
RingneckDoveFan 6 months ago
just leave them alone, stop putting them in pools and stop obsessing. leave them be!
HayleyLolita 6 months ago
@RingneckDoveFan are you actually thick.... a failure or not to YOUR standards... he got to swim in an OCEAN not a tiny pool.... im sure HE doesnt see it as a failure, im sure HE prefferred that than a pool. IDIOTS!
HayleyLolita 6 months ago
@HayleyLolita
Keiko died trying to get takeouts from people and letting children swim with him. He was lethargic before he basically killed himself by stranding right before he died. I thought wild orcas could live to be 50 to 90?
Um. He's an animal. Animals take what they get and adapt. They don't sit their and go, "I WUNNAH BIGA TAINK TAAHH SWIMMY INEH." Keiko was content in Oregon. As with Mexico. He should have just stayed in Oregon and then later moved to a park with other orcas.
RingneckDoveFan 6 months ago
@HayleyLolita
lol. So just because he got to swim in a deserted ocean for miles on end, instead of swimming in circles with human attention and other orcas, it was a "success?" Wow. You sure have low standards. Orcas are pack animals. He had NO pod. He had NO way to get his natural diet. He was NEVER free. His "release" was a failure. If you want to think otherwise, go right ahead. But his release will forever prove to zoological facilities that releasing orcas will never work. I'll PM you it.
RingneckDoveFan 6 months ago
@RingneckDoveFan
BTW there have been more then DOZENS of incidents involving captive orcas and their trainers. But you think SW is going to announce it? NO. Loro Parque, their male Keto killed a trainer two months before Dawns death. And before then one of their female trainers was seriously injured. The man that was killed kept a journal, and had been considering quitting for some time because of numerous incidents that kept occurring with the whales. And that's just their 4 whales
AnubisStar1921 6 months ago
@AnubisStar1921
Keto killed his trainer because of poor training methods. If you read the great article Blood in the Water. You would clearly see that.
Yep, animals hurt people. It's NOT just orcas. If every single animal in the world was that size, they would be "attacking" us left and right.
RingneckDoveFan 6 months ago
@RingneckDoveFan LOW STANDARDS......... the reason he was put in that position in the end because humans captured him to put him in a TANK for money. ive seen footage of keiko when he was in the ocean, i saw his skin improve, the weight he gained... him breeching of his own accord not because he was asked to. he was ALONE in his pool in mexico.. im sure being ALONE in the ocean was a far better life than alone in a fucking POOL. why dont you people get it...
HayleyLolita 6 months ago
@HayleyLolita
Uh..he improved by moving to Oregon, another tiny tank. Hah yeah. And Keiko's release for for MONEY. $20 million to be exact. Talk about a huge waste of good cash that could have made a difference for organizations who actually help these animals. No. He was not alone in Mexico. He had his trainers and bottlenose dolphins. But if he was moved to SW after Oregon, he would have been just fine.
Why don't you get that some animals just don't care if they are in pool or ocean?
RingneckDoveFan 6 months ago
@RingneckDoveFan Sea World did not want Keiko. He was in very poor healthy and they did not want the papilloma virus anywhere near their Orcas.
truebeatlegirl 6 months ago
@truebeatlegirl
No kidding. I'm talking about after he was rehabbed in a tank in Oregon.
RingneckDoveFan 6 months ago
@RingneckDoveFan The tank in Oregon was huge compared to any other tank today and it was all for one whale. Also people and dolphins are no substitute for his real family no matter how much he loved them. Fact is if he was in the wild he probably would have eaten his dolphin buddies. Also how do you know that they don't care about being in a tank or the ocean?
Ryuuchild 3 weeks ago
@Ryuuchild The tank in Oregon was actually surprisnly small. They made it look huge but if I remember correctly it wasn't much better than the total space of SW's orca stadium. Much smaller than Marineland in France.
IAmADalek 1 week ago
@IAmADalek hmmm while that maybe true it was one of the most sophisticated tanks out there
Ryuuchild 1 week ago
@RingneckDoveFan we could argue forever. the bottom line is he and every other orca should never of been captured. seaworld is a disgrace as they lie to the public to make everything seem fine and good when it isnt. .... i believe the trainers and most staff love the animals truely, i believe they care for them the best they can, i also believe that the pools are large and clean, but ........ it is NOT the ocean! and it is unfair and cruel.
HayleyLolita 6 months ago
@HayleyLolita
Orcas are not captured anymore. They are born into that life. SeaWorld's has captured 17 orcas total throughout their history, and the last orca they ever captured, was Kasatka.
Yep, its not the ocean. But their are many animals confined all over the world. Whether they are pets, performing animals, or working animals. So I hope you are also anti-pets as well.
RingneckDoveFan 6 months ago
@RingneckDoveFan you can't compare animals that have never been domesticated to animals that have been domesticated over thousands of years. Also pets can survive both in a house and the wild. Animals in zoos, aquariums, and circuses are taught to depend on there human caretakers and can never survive in the wild again.
Ryuuchild 3 weeks ago
@Ryuuchild Only pet Cats could have a chance at surviving in the wild. Most others (including Rodents) would die quickly from malnutrition. Animals in Zoo's would die as well as aquaria. Circus' are hateful places that do abuse and torture their animals, protest against the Big Tops as much as you like.
IAmADalek 1 week ago
@IAmADalek All I was saying that common house animals have been taught to rely on humans, while all other animals in captivity due still retain most of they're wild nature. So trying to compare the two is like saying an apple and a cow are the same thing. I agree with you about the circus it is a horrible place.
Ryuuchild 1 week ago
@RingneckDoveFan
Not to mention that pneumonia is one of the leading causes of death in CAPTIVE cetaceans, it makes no sense arguing against keikos release because he came down with pneumonia. Probably would of happened long before then if he had of been left in Mexico.
AnubisStar1921 6 months ago
@AnubisStar1921 I agree. I've heard that if they didn't move Keiko when they did they would not have been able to to move him at all cause he wouldn't have survived the move.
Ryuuchild 3 weeks ago
@RingneckDoveFan
His death was horribly sad, but considering that a wild male orca's lifespan is about 40, he wasn't too far off the mark. Simply put, he was old and it's a guarantee that a hard life of sickness and deplorable living conditions added to early aging and ultimately a not too early death, NOT the wild.
Your statements continue to be filled with ignorant and untrue facts, especially when it concerns keiko. Why don't you just stop before you embarrass yourself even more?
AnubisStar1921 6 months ago
@RingneckDoveFan
Keiko was "in the wild" officially for over a year and a half before his death, not mere months. And even before that he had been taken on see walks for over a year where it was normal for him to dissapear for several days at a time.
He initiated several encounters with wild orcas.
In the some 60 days between his journey from Iceland to Norway it was obvious he had been hunting and feeding himself, as he was still in good health in Norway. Not emaciated or sick.
AnubisStar1921 6 months ago
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RingneckDoveFan 6 months ago
@RingneckDoveFan It is most certainly true. Sent it to you :')
You don't have to be so rude just because you are wrong.
ZeldaFrEaK21354 6 months ago
I do agree wwc are not a good thing starit to the whales just about the direct polution they made "on top a the whales" however I've been whaching whales all over the world from shore and from boat (mainly from shore) and some wwc are doing a very good eduction work ,beside the polution they made and the disturbance they could made to the whales.
other compagnie are pretty bad and don't behave how they should, but mainly it's getting better.
OrcaAgainstCaptivity 6 months ago
no big talking, only one word : FREEDOM
OrcaAgainstCaptivity 7 months ago
Thank you for sharing this video. I also want people to know that in Tiaji the bottle nose dolphins are herded into The Cove where they see thier pods family getting slaughtered 4 ppl while the best looking ones are sold to these horrible bathtubs Whales and dolphins swim hundreds of miles a day and to be locked in a pen without your family causes insanity and this is why they are killers. People MUST stop giving them money for pure torture. You can take a boat ride and see them in the wild.
italndiva 8 months ago
@ihrtfootball one ocean debuted April 22 in Orlando
peanutmiley630 8 months ago
Ok obviously this wasn't an actual performance seeing as how One Ocean didn't even debut until Memorial Day weekend. The fact that the trainers are not around doing their usual bits during splash time or running around getting the crowd hyped up is a big detail. This was obviously some "sound" run through and ppl just filed it like they do when the stadium is open for viewing and what not.
ihrtfootball 8 months ago
@ihrtfootball even if it wasn't an actual performance or not Tili clearly wasn't happy with something and was showing it by not preforming
Ryuuchild 3 weeks ago
That is heartbreaking. Stop captivity. Just stop it.
TokioSpice 8 months ago
The trainers usually stop the
Music and explain why the whales are not performing. wonder why they didn't say anything this show
Milkdidmybodygood 8 months ago
@Milkdidmybodygood they probaly didnt know that he was sick
cheyannmilan 7 months ago
Umm, he wasn't refusing, he seemed to do the show pretty well, maybe you should use your eyes instead of your shitty brain.
Orcakid360 8 months ago
To me, it looks like Tilikum is not REFUSING to perform, but is rather too SICK to perform. Personally I think he put in his best effort, in order to not be punished for another 13 months. In fact he was taken to the medical pool afterwards. Congratulations $eaworld on physically and emotionally damaging this precious whale, on your 13 months punishment strategy.
AngelViolet22 8 months ago
@AngelViolet22 i agree with tilly being sick but please dont say anything about seaworld they didnt emotinally damaged tilly they have never did my aunt works there as a trainner and some times takes me to work with her and i personaly got to see tilly he is doing awsome so :P
cheyannmilan 8 months ago
@cheyannmilan I am really worried about him. Can you tell me how sick he is and what they have diagnosed him with?
AngelViolet22 8 months ago
@AngelViolet22 oh that day he just had a cold hes ok now
cheyannmilan 8 months ago
His fin is down! Sad.
jkebeans 8 months ago
Where are the trainers in this video. I know they don't get in the water anymore, but they aren't anywhere that I can see.
SusannTx 8 months ago
@SusannTx
they're down in front of the tank....they stand there during the splash portion of the show.
kittykitty0204 8 months ago
@RingneckDoveFan Yes, Keiko's release was not a success. But that does not mean that every release would fail. Many dolphins have been successfully released into the wild by first adjusting within natural sea pens. Ultimately release is up to them. Some may choose to spend their lives in the sea pen. Orcas are dolphins and we are still learning about them. We should be working on future releases right now, and what it would take for them to succeed. We can't give up because one release failed.
GenerationEpic90 9 months ago
@GenerationEpic90 but we cant send the ones born in captivity into the wild they dont even know how to hunt a
cheyannmilan 8 months ago
@cheyannmilan You shouldn't patronize them. We are talking about extremely intelligent non-human persons here. Hunting is instinctual. It is the life purpose of killer whales. It's like their occupation. Really, there is nothing that they can't learn. Especially if it is something that is natural and instinctive.
GenerationEpic90 8 months ago
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cheyannmilan 8 months ago
@cheyannmilan So killer whales can learn to do hundreds of "tricks" for humans...but you think that they can't "learn" how to do something as simple and instinctual as hunting their food with the help of their family? Are you ignorant?
GenerationEpic90 8 months ago
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cheyannmilan 8 months ago
@cheyannmilan Girl, you are 14 years! How the hell have you been "studying" killer whales since you were 4, pray tell? Once again you are patronizing them. Treating them as though they are dumb animals. First of all orca have very tight family bonds, are highly intelligent, have amazing memories. Plus hunting is INSTINCTUAL. If one orca didn't know how, for whatever reason, they are not stupid and will not sit there and let one of their own starve.
GenerationEpic90 8 months ago
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cheyannmilan 8 months ago
@cheyannmilan So you knew how to write and read at 4 years old? You can't even spell word properly now as it is, what makes you think I'm going to believe you were studying science and biology as a toddler? What do you mean no echolocation was there? And what does that have to do with releasing orca into the wild? You do realize there have been many successful dolphin releases right? And they knew how to hunt because it is instinctual.
GenerationEpic90 8 months ago
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cheyannmilan 8 months ago
@cheyannmilanJust don't expect me to believe what you say about studying at age 4. Orcas are animals capable of what is called "cultural learning." That means that throughout their lives they learn how to do things, and use different techniques by viewing each other and other animals. This has happened in captivity in Marineland. When orcas learned to catch sea gulls by luring them in with puked up fish. Soon all the whales there learned this. You think they wouldn't learn to hunt in the wild?
GenerationEpic90 8 months ago
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cheyannmilan 8 months ago
@cheyannmilan You have no arguments to counter cultural learning? I DO have my facts that came from scientists. They are facts- not opinions.
GenerationEpic90 8 months ago
@GenerationEpic90 and my facts are from books ok now please stop im done
cheyannmilan 8 months ago
@RingneckDoveFan dude first thing they didnt stop feeding keiko people said let him free so they did he didnt know how to hunt any more so thats why they did come back and take care of him i was there when they did and he came back beacaues he couldent find his pod so shut up about keiko im a killerwhale lover seaworld is trying there best
cheyannmilan 9 months ago
@cheyann
Releasing him = stop feeding him. He never came back. He stayed with the 'researchers,' then when they finally stopped feeding him, he swam off. And he knew how to hunt, he just didn't have a pod to help him.
SeaWorld had practically NOTHING to do with his release... I don't know where you see me hatin' on SeaWorld.
His pod was no where to be found; which is one reason why he shouldn't have been released.
RingneckDoveFan 9 months ago