Rediculious conclusion with listing only selected facts that you want to prove your point. Seems you drew definite conclusions on alot of speculative facts. Wasted 10 minutes
@chaneyranch99"listing only selected facts that you want to prove your point"
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The Dallas Police solved this double murder within a couple of days, only "high school dropouts" without a clue, are perpetuating and regurgitating the long disproved nonsense spouted by crafty money hungry JFK researchers, who use selective quotes that try and distort the official record.
Oswald was in "flight" as soon as he murdered JFK, this has NO explanation and would convict Oswald on it's own!
While I respect your opinion, there are numerous facts that you have left out. Having read more books on the subject than I can count (from both sides of the "argument"), I have come to the conclusion that the Warren Commission only REAL goal was to engender stability in the government from the perspective of the rest of the world. There are certainly "conspiracy theorists" out there that believe every potential theory that comes along..and that is foolish, but so is blind support of the WC.
You place first shot during tree blockage of 6th flr east window. Why would anyone in that window fire at car unsighted? Yet not have fired while car was facing - making strike of others less likely? You place Connally hit earlier than did the man himself, and his wife. They recalled, the Z film shows, & you miss: a major hit of Connally just before 313 - 4 frames prior. So Connally described it, from hospital Nov '63; or, w L King c. 1999. Larry almost got it: proof of two shooters.
1) Oswald would have been seen much easier by the Secret Service who had Machine Guns.
2) To shoot down Houston, you must be in the center of a bright sun drenched window, and extremely exposed.
3) Elm st is sloped, down and away from the TSBD so JFK was moving very slowly in Oswald's sights, and is another reason why Houston was not used because the angle was changing much faster.
There are so many factual errors in this video that it would actually require making a video to respond to them. I'm seriously considering doing that. The WC report draws conclusions which are just not supportable by the evidence, nor the testimony given. Bare minimum is that Dulles' placement on the Commission invalidates its work because it is a conflict of interest. Single bullet is impossible because he back wound did not exit, and additional bullets were found around Dealey Plaza.
@ProtectAus I've been reading and studying about the JFK assassination since I was 14 years old and can guarantee that I know at least 10 times as much about it as do you. I've read all 26 volumes of testimony, about two dozens books both pro-WC and anti-WC, and have posted on forums run by some of these authors. If you're going to be sarcastic and smug then at least pretend to know what you're talking about.
@ProtectAus Why so smug? It makes you look bad and does a disservice to what you're trying to present. If you really care about this issue then your concern should be the same as mine and everyone else's - to find out the truth, not insult other professional and armchair researchers. Anyone who researches this case should be doing so because he loves his country, loves freedom, and loves truth, not because he wants to call people names, disprove the "other side" or get attention for himself.
@TheTubePortal "not insult other professional and armchair researchers"
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How the fuck have i offended you, precious?
You have been the only dickhead with any insults, you say you can show the truth with your video, well go do it, why waste time regurgitating your stupid nonsense?
Btw I'm smug because i know for a fact, that i know and understand this case infinitely more than you could ever possibly comprehend!
Did you watch my other JFK videos yet, you may learn something.
@ProtectAus I'm not going to waste any further time on you. Those who care about this matter - one of the most important events in American history - try to work together rather than act like a childish know-it-all. Nobody, no matter whether they support the WC's conclusions or not, has all of the answers. Even the WC said there were matters on which they could not come to a conclusion. With your attitude you push people away instead of helping them to learn. Season your words with salt!
@TheTubePortal "work together rather than act like a childish know-it-all"
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Didn't you just say this yesterday, "and can guarantee that I know at least 10 times as much about it as do you", you are the worst type of hypocrite, who can barely piece together a coherent and logical argument and resorts to emotional slander, when he is stumped by my brilliance, but i guess when everything else in your pathetic existence sux, what else can you resort to?
A little info about the weapons and the problem with the gunshot residue ... The shell casings do not match the slugs and on the revolver (source FBI) and with the barrel having been refitted before being imported back to the U.S. the riffling is inconsistent from one round to the next. The riffle is a different length and type from the order form in evidence . The parafin wax test is invalid. antimony was the element on the cast, he was printed before and finger print ink also contains antimony
You can argue all you want but just remember who you are arguing for and what these people are all about. USA is the super power of the world for a reason, and what do you think it takes to become the super power of the world, honesty? Integrity? Good deeds? Going by the book? Amazingly you can believe in a magic bullet but not a good frame job by the powers that be. The entire case has all the marking of a framing and cover-up, all the little clues are there. Ask Joseph Milteer!
You can argue all you want but just remember who you are arguing for and what these people are all about. USA is the super power of the world for a reason, and what do you think it takes to become the super power of the world, honesty? Integrity? Good deeds? Going by the book? Amazingly you can believe in a magic bullet but not a good frame job by the powers that be. The entire case has all the marking of a framing and cover-up, all the little clues are there. Ask Joseph Milteer!
You can argue all you want but just remember who you are arguing for and what these people are all about. USA is the super power of the world for a reason, and what do you think it takes to become the super power of the world, honesty? Integrity? Good deeds? Going by the book? Amazingly you can believe in a magic bullet but not a good frame job by the powers that be. The entire case has all the marking of a framing and cover-up, all the little clues are there. Ask Joseph Milteer!
You can argue all you want but just remember who you are arguing for and what these people are all about. USA is the super power of the world for a reason, and what do you think it takes to become the super power of the world, honesty? Integrity? Good deeds? Going by the book? Amazingly you can believe in a magic bullet but not a good frame job by the powers that be. The entire case has all the marking of a framing and cover-up, all the little clues are there. Ask Joseph Milteer!
You can argue all you want but just remember who you are arguing for and what these people are all about. USA is the super power of the world for a reason, and what do you think it takes to become the super power of the world, honesty? Integrity? Good deeds? Going by the book? Amazingly you can believe in a magic bullet but not a good frame job by the powers that be. The entire case has all the marking of a framing and cover-up, all the little clues are there. Ask Joseph Milteer!
You can argue all you want but just remember who you are arguing for and what these people are all about. USA is the super power of the world for a reason, and what do you think it takes to become the super power of the world, honesty? Integrity? Good deeds? Going by the book? Amazingly you can believe in a magic bullet but not a good frame job by the powers that be. The entire case has all the marking of a framing and cover-up, all the little clues are there. Ask Joseph Milteer!
But the more that once confidential and classified documents are coming out, the more we know that he was working with or for the CIA as well as with the FBI. That fact alone changes everything and you know it. I could list a hundred other proven facts but it won't matter. The people were spoonfed what they were supposed to hear. Know how many people involved died during the next few years? If the powers that be are going to frame somebody, they're going to do a damned good job at it: ZRRIFLE
Oswald NEVER worked for the CIA. Those declassified documents just reveal nothing about any conspiracy.
He was a Marine, yes he worked in a base, yes he never had any access to secrets. I mean , he was a defecteor and tried to go to Russia (successfuly). When he came back he was investigated and harrassed by the FBI, could'nt support his family, couldn't find a decent job, in a country that had a capitalist government. He was frustrated! But NEVER a CIA agent! Come on!!!
@captainkavern Actually, it seems to me that a good job was found for him in a photo lab. And if I remember right it was possibly found for him by a good friend that did have connections but on that job Lee acted like he wanted to be fired. Yet at his last job with the school book depository he was thought of as a good worker.
the story I found out was a bit different. He worked in that lab much before working in the book depository and was unemployed between those two jobs. He was hired in the depository before the Dallas trip was even planned. And he was contacted for another job he applied to 2 days after having been hired by the book depository. too bad...
@captainkavern And I think that the salary on that job was $310 per month while the depository job was only $210 per month and not a permanent position. Just another of the contradictions that was the life of Lee Harvey Oswald.
I'm worried you still won't make the connection, put it like this.... If LHO didn't want to get caught, he would have done better than leaving the rifle out in the open and leaving the shells. Beyond that, a revolver doesn't discharge shells, them being on the ground by JDT means that he pulled the pin, swung open the revolving mechanism & dumped them. That makes little sense. Yet he supposedly had the rest of the bullets in the gun when arrested, so he picked them out 1 x 1 at the scene? FRAMED
we will never had the perfect answer. Let me tell you if Oswald was caught in a conspiracy of that magnitude nothing would have been left to chance! First of all he was hired in the texas book depository, in october, before Kennedy himself and his entourage decided the trip to dallas. In my opinion Oswald din't have any plan after the shooting, he just improvised. and made a lot of mistakes...
I apologize 4 my comment ("Just stupid")...Sorry: I didn´t watch the clip until the end at this time! But: If you are research ALL the sources serios you will be convinced that L.H. Oswald wasn´t the killer of JFK!!!
And to your question: "Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me!" :)
Nice try however tests had shown that Oswald had not fired a gun! The rest is your fanciful imagination running away with itself. Oswald said "I'm just the patsy" and that is exactly what you won't believe because the deception succeeded.
@ProtectAus pkease explain to me then how 7 wounds can be generated by 3 shots then? You obviously haven't looked into any of the information i suggested, E Howard Hunt's deathbed confession and LBJ's mistress testimony by Alex Jones. If you think "it's a simple as that" explain why so many people heard shots from the grassy knoll passing over their heads and why so many ppl gave chase in that direction? I bet you also think Sirhan Sirhan acted alone too 13 shots fired from an 8 shooter??
@ProtectAus Also a melon is not going to behave in the same way as flesh and bone, how come one shot throws head forward but the other backwards? And who was in a position of authority to change the route of the motorcade and also the stand down of the secret service agents that were there to protect him, even they knew something was amiss? Another president that was assassinated was Lincoln who also had plans to axe the federal reserve, far too many unanswered questions & too many assumptions
Research??!! WTF!! Have you seen the Howard Hunt death bed confession and also the revealing documentary that Alex Jones did with Lyndon Baines Johnson's secretary, it's very revealing, also Bush was CIA chief and there was many shots fired all very suspicious. At 911 3 Israeli's were there to document the event, how did they know? Its also no surprise that Zepruder was also Jewish
We'd like to see you put this much effort into the WM3 murders. That case also has a multitude of theories floating around that have changed since 6 May 1993. These theories will expand when Paradise Lost 3 is released.
This JFK stuff is ancient history now and not worth the effort to debate it anymore. Most of the actors are dead. If it was something other than Oswald we'll each find out when we get yanked out of the cesspool. Good work on the video!
@ProtectAus I'm reassured that you now believe Oswald acted alone. Perhaps you should take down this video and publish a revision. It is refreashing when I hear someone like youself reconcider their positions. So many are closed-minded on these issues.
@abennett4 "I'm reassured that you now believe Oswald acted alone"
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After i posted this video i realized something, the MOST important fact to the 99% of modern researchers or Youtube Experts etc etc is that Oswald was innocent of everything and was just a patsy.
Conspiracy ranks way down because they know that no one agrees on anything beyond Oswald was a patsy.
@captainkavern Such a shame he just left his rifle up there, with the bullets....Same thing with Tippit's shooting, this guy seemed to do everything to try and get caught...Yet eludes capture and fiercely protest his innocence. And, of course he unfortunately died before anything could be learned.
Of course he left the rifle!!! Do you think he could have left the bulding by the main entrance with the rifle without being noticed? By the way if he didn't do anything, explain me why he left the building he was supposed to work!
he left empty shells because guess what he was a little bit in a hurry!!! he had only a few second to get out of there!!! "fiercely protest his innonce"??? what? since when does it make him innocent? if he was innocent he would'nt have draw his gun !!
@captainkavern Uhhh..At least take the shells and bullet. Fine, lets go with the idea he couldnt have figured out any way to get the rifle out, why the hell didn't he have a hiding place for it? "Left shells cuz he was in a hurry" Man, it takes all of 2 seconds to grab those shells, but of course your theory has to line up with the Jesse Owens sprint down to the snd floor LR. YET THE DESCRIPTION OF OSWALD WAS BASED ON SEEING HIM STANDING IN THE WINDOW AFTER THE SHOOTING. So he stands & stares?
Yet doesnt pick up the shells? Interesting. More interesting is how the shells of a revolver ended up near Tippits body. So are you under the impression he took the time out to eject the casings? To leave more clues? No, you don't get it do you, half of his supposed actions show he was doing everything in his power to not get caught and the other half is that of a man who doesnt care or wants to get caught. Not having a good hiding spot for the rifle AND leaving shells/Staring out the window/YET
performing a record breaking sprint to appear he was in the 2nd floor LR. Fleeing the scene/Purposely ejecting shells from a revolver/YET running away and hiding in the movie house. These actions are like that of two different men. Several of them are blatantly foolish and point the finger straight at him, yet the actions we DO KNOW ABOUT, the fleeing, hiding and resisting arrest, proclaiming innocence are completely contrary. He HAD to have known leaving rifle with paper trail would lead to him
So no, of course I wasnt saying that claiming innocence made him innocent. I can't believe you couldn't grasp what I was getting at. It just doesn't make sense. Like a hundred other things about this case but Lone Nutters dont look at them. Also, how do you explain the fact that the Director of the CIA admitted he worked with CIA and FBI? That doesnt tell you something?
It was some kind of humour...the big problem with you conspiracy fans is that everything has "to make sense".
The president is killed? It must be something bigger than him! Well actually it could have been. But has unbearable has it seems, (and I did my research) it is not the case. because you have to understand something, politically speaking JFK 's death changed nothing at all.
the problem is in texas u wouldnt need an ID nevermind a fake ID to buy a rifle. 2nd the DPD ID the rifle as a german made mauser not an italian carcano until the next day. 3rd oswalds palm print wasnt discover when the DPD of FBI looked at it only after oswald was killed did the print show up (dallas mortician claimed he scrubbed ink off LHO hands) 4. the handgun bullet casings would not have fit in LHO gun that killed tippet. 5 connally himself says 2 different bullets hit JFK and him.
1) Shops kept records and reciepts of what rifle was sold and to whom in 63, and checked ID to make sure you were old enough, Oswald was a small 24yo. Mail ord. was MUCH cheaper than a shop, Oswald was poor.
2) The rifle being taken out of hiding was filmed by TV cameras was a Carcano.
3) Day took Oswalds rifle prints on 22/11/63
4) The 4 shells matched oswalds pistol that he pulled on cops in the theater, 30min later.
5) Zapruder film shows JFK and Connally hit at same time!
so many "coincidences" to this case. here's another. each shot fired at exactly the time the limo was in a clear line of sight first from the Dal-Tex building, then the Book Suppository, then the grassy knoll.
@protectAus are you serious? You say the Warren commission was right and there was no cover up? That is what you are saying? I just wanted to make sure I understood your bullshit!!!! What about 9-11 these 2 events are related because of the lies our government tells and those criminals the Bushes!! Enlighten us common folk with your exceptional intelligence you obviously possess! You must work for this bullshit government because a man of your superior intellect could not be so wrong!!!! YEA RI
Biggest work of fiction since vows of fidelity were included in the French marriage service.You must be one of those nodding dogs,a,yes-man who believe's what your government tells you.Oswald's fingerprints were found on the weapon AFTER he himself was killed.The rifle was a piece of junk,had a defective scope and a two stage trigger.Even expert marksmen couldn't repeat the feat attributed to Oswald.As for that stupid back spasm idea,he had a back brace on.His head was hit twice.Wake up dickhead
And was used by the Italian Shooting team at the Olympics, you are just a fool, who stupidly just repeats anything they are told like a 200 pound Parrot, Polly want a cracker?
All your theories have long been proven to be lies, and are massively contradictory
Watch any WW2 documentary where they shoot prisoners in the head, and they never get thrown anywhere, they just fall down, a light bullet striking and penetrating someone isn't like Rambo! LOL
@ProtectAus You are obviously not from this planet.Your theory defies the laws of physics and common sense,something you certainly do not have.The idea that a bullet can retain it's shape and form after going through dense bone and muscle is impossible,and you it.You and other Warren Commission apologists can stretch to believe it but you are in a minority,whether you like it or not.The fact you respond with insults has found you out,Lemming.You are being paid too much.Who has proven them lies?
@adrianberry4 "The fact you respond with insults has found you out"
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Your first comment called me a Dickhead, do you remember?
I find it ironic that someone with a limited education can make any comment regarding physics, in defiance of what real professionals who actually work with bullet ballistics, have concluded?
CE399 was completely flattened on one side, after CE399 left JFK, it tumbled into Connally and left an OVAL, Connallys scar proves that CE399 entered side on.
@ProtectAus Do you believe the 3cm wound on his back proves that the bullet entered as you say "side on?" Or would you be more in agreement with Dr. Shaw who testified the wound was 1.6 cms at its greatest dimension and HE made the wound 3cms after cleaning and debriding the wound?
A Carcano bullet is 6.5mm and leaves this size hole when it impacts without deflection, as indicated by JFKs back wound, Connallys 15mm x 8mm back wound was obviously caused by a tumbling bullet and the exit wound was 50mm just under his right nipple.
@adrianberry4 CBS did a special in the 70's where shooters were able to accomplish Oswald's feat with ease. 10 out of 11 hit theit mark 2 out of 3 (just like Oswald). Most in less than 8 seconds. Oswald had more time. Firearm experts testified to the Warren Commission that it was an "easy" shot from the TSBD. COmmon sense and geometry show likewise. Protectaus has some excellent videos (including Oswalds Shartshooter results from the marines) on his Youtube channel demonstrating all the above.
@brahunt "what really happened that fateful day in Dallas"
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Oswald did it, there is overwhelming physical and forensic evidence and a plethora of eyewitnesses.
Unfortunately there is a lot of brainless morons like you, who believe every little piece of conspiracy nonsense and never do a scrap of real research, besides what you learn from other ignorant twats, all who have a dollar interest in keeping you stupid!
Go ahead and believe what you want, the truth is what it is!
I just finished watching the COMPLETE nix film. Hill and Mooreman are not shown in that film. Why don't you point me to the copy of the Nix film that does show them. If you can.
@LiquorWreckedEmGood "That is not Mary Moorman you idiot. Jean Hill is standing next to Mary Moorman"
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In the Nix film watch?v=vNIXfiii_vo @ 0.09 Mary in the Navy blue coat and since her white shoes are clearly visible that means that she is NOT on the road, And you blind? and you can see Jeans red coat but only for a few frames.
watch?v=vO8vnfieuDs Mary is looking at the TSBD, and describing when she took THAT photo and she may well have been on the street, but she is NOT on the street later!
Agreed, acoustic evidence not shut; book recently written about argument continuing. "Hear No Evil" by Donald Byron Thomas. Xray and pics were allegedly authenticated. Mmuch like gov alleged that the people who did autopsy described JFK's wounds totally differently from Docs @ Parkland... which they didn't. All 40 or so of the witnesses from BOTH Parkland and Bethesda described JFK in a way that contradicts the "authenticated" photos.
Don't bother arguing with this guy. He argues like a woman (or a liberal, same thing). He doesn't respond to specific arguments but instead, when bested, he changes the subject and moves the goal posts.
As many of you have already figured out and as E. Howard Hunt says ON HIS DEATH BED, LBJ was behind the JFK assassination and he was supported by the CIA who contracted the shooters.
Look up Mac Wallace. LBJ's button man. His thumbprint was found on a box in the 6th floor sniper nest. Oops.
You come with a LOT of baggage when you try to analyse JFK, and i come with a completely independent perspective, and have no bias only facts, this is why you fail.
Wallace was NOT in the snipers nest, the ONLY unidentified Print was a PALMPRINT, i told you this already and provided you with the evidence which is the only source of this information.
LBJ in a phone conversation was asking if any shots were at him, LBJ(prick) was NOT involved,
a. A thumb print belonging to Mac Wallace WAS found on a box in the snipers nest. That is a fact. Sorry if my fact contradicts your mistaken opinion.
b. you point as "evidence" of Johnson's innocence a PHONE CALL between the very two principle conspirators, LBJ and J Edgar Hoover? A phone call that Johnson fully well KNEW was being recorded? One word: ROTFLMFAO.
I have a death bed confession by a senior CIA and White House official (among other things). You have a phone call.
ALL of the identifiable fingerprints and palmprints on the four TSBD boxes (except one single PALMPRINT, as mentioned multiple times in CE3131) belonged either to Lee Harvey Oswald (which Mandella was able to confirm, since Mandella had Oswald's prints for comparison purposes) or the several DPD members mentioned in Commission Exhibit No. 3131.
BTW Why would an experienced professional like Wallace leave ONE thumbprint?, and how?
"Why would an experienced professional like Wallace leave ONE thumbprint?, and how?"
Why would "an experienced professional" leave tape on a door in the watergate complex after hours and get his entire team caught? that team consisting of experienced FBI and CIA men.
Answer? Shit happens. People make mistakes. ESPECIALLY when they are pulling the trigger ON THE FUCKING PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
This is so stupid it defies description! Hoover had what to gain? and a LOT to lose, his self image in history was important and being involved in this is just absurd.
LBJ was 2 cars back in an OPEN Limo and you reckon that there were multiple snipers that were organised by LBJ, essentially shooting at himself and his secret service and his mate Connally?
There would be far easier ways to KILL JFK, if you had a choice?
Look how closely LBJ's car hugged JFK's limo on the turn onto Houston. Where is it on Elm? JFK's limo came to a near halt at the time of the head shot (Nix film). Both JFK and Connally had been hit by that time.
Both Jean Hill and Mary Mooreman said they STEPPED OFF THE CURB to take their photos of the president. Where are they in the Z film?
Once again, you didn't watch the video series, did you.
You do realize that the PoliceBikes were riding along in the gutter and would hit anyone who was anywhere near the road?
But much more important is that Nix and Muchmore filmed Hill and Moorman at the EXACT same time time as Zapruder and in ALL 3 movies Moorman is standing on the grass, a little genuine research would stop you looking so foolish!
BTW My conclusions are based on reality, what do you base your conclusions on?
"PoliceBikes were riding along in the gutter and would hit anyone who was anywhere near the road..."
the police bikes were approximately 2 feet from the left curb. they were not "riding along the gutter". this should be clear to anybody watching the Z film.
you are making up your own facts to suit your case.
once again, SHOW ME the film that shows hill and moorman standing on the grass.
IF YOU HAD ACTUALLY WATCHED THE VIDEO SERIES THAT I GAVE YOU, you would know that the portion of the Z film that has been altered was the background, on the south of Elm. There is no contention over where the motorcycles were riding.
But you refuse to view the ABUNDANT evidence that i have handed to you.
You're as corrupt as the US Senate when they declared the articles of Bill Clinton's impeachment dead on arrival without even looking at it.
@adrianberry4 "Hunt bought the film from Abraham Zapruder"
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And Zapruder kept the original, The Zapruder film has not been altered, or had any frames removed, the ghost images between the sprocket holes is unfakeable.
JFKs head violently snaps forward, before the much slower neurological reaction.
Simple physics says that a bullet weighing 1/3 of an ounce will not move a human body more than an inch or two, Mythbusters have proven that people do NOT react like a Hollywood Movie, when shot.
@LiquorWreckedEmGood "The Maria Muchmore film shows Hill and Moorman standing ON THE STREET"
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They are both standing on the grass, and you can see ALL their shoes, a bit difficult if they are standing on the lower street, please STOP embarrassing yourself, this is TOO easy!
They are clearly both standing on the street right off the curb where they both testified they stood. They BOTH stated that they "stepped off the grass onto the street and yelled hey mr president". Hill wore the red raincoat to attract JFK's attention. unfortunately all she attracted was assorted brain matter.
watch?v=Pcpo6BMDLYI&feature=related The Muchmore film @ 0.09 you see Hill and Moorman standing on the grass, There is NO shadow being cast by them on the road?, The motobikes just inches away have awesome long shadows, This is the 10th piece of solid evidence i have given confirming the authenticity of the Zapruder film, and i still have a many more!
In the Nix film watch?v=vNIXfiii_vo @ 0.09 Mary and is clearly visible, and Jean for 3 frames
blah blah blah. bullshit. you want to impress me? watch the video series i gave you and then debunk all 132 points made BY EXPERTS IN THE FIELD (as opposed to some dumb kid on youtube).
EVERY ridiculous piece of fucked up conspiracy nonsense you have regurgitated i have continually debunked with simple undeniable logic from real film and photos.
@LiquorWreckedEmGood "Didn't LBJ shortly thereafter appoint him as lifetime head of the FBI?"
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Hoover was SIXTY EIGHT years old and had been The Director of the FBI for THIRTY years when JFK was assassinated, and you reckon he killed JFK, for job security? HaHaHaHa
Hoover hated the Kennedys. Hoover was also at retirement age but didn't want to retire. Hoover didn't need much coaxing to protect LBJ from any investigation. In return LBJ gave Hoover a lifetime position. These are undisputed facts. The FBI filtered which witness testimonies it used in the investigation as did the WC. If anything didn't fit their story it was omitted.
Sorry, meant to say that not all witnesses say they saw Oswald kill Tippet. Anyway, go do some REAL research, Gallagher.
Not going to say whether head moving back was result of bullet, but all I know is that watermelon is a horrible way of proving or disproving this. Those melons were incinerated... as gruesome as his death was, the President was not decapitated.
@mockingbird187 "watermelon is a horrible way of proving or disproving this"
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The alternative is to show actual WW2 footage of headshots, but the watermelon footage was far more tasteful.
Real Research will tell you that TWELVE witnesses saw Oswald kill Tippit or running away with a gun, Clements who claims 2 men killing Tippit admits to coming out way after, and probably saw Callaway and Benavides.
I have researched this for years, read MORE and get a decent argument, then come back!
@ProtectAus The Men Who Killed Kennedy "The Witnesses" episode 5 ... at about 6 minutes. Also "The smoking guns" episode 6... at about 22 minutes. If you need more, there are plenty of other sources beyond this series to support.
@ProtectAus "The Autopsy photos and Xrays have been proven, to be authentic..."
Look into the ARRB and the set of documents that were supposed to be released in 2028. Some were released beforehand and show further inconsistencies, not to the above-mentioned, but in the testimony allegedly given by people at Bethesda. Sorry, I can't yet close the case.
I just find it hard to believe that, if the were nothing to hide, the evidence, witnesses, etc. would have been handled so poorly/secretively.
@ProtectAus Some also flew behind and landed on B.Hargis as you well know.He was hit once in the head from behind,and a split second later on the side of the head with a high velocity mercury loaded round from the front,forcing head backwards and left.This might refute your version and it is only your version because I have never seen such a large collection of half-baked falsities as you have come up with,entertaining though it is.I have laughed a lot so for that I thank you.
@adrianberry4 "large collection of half-baked falsities as you have come up with"
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All my knowledge is commonly known on non-conspiracy web sites, this proves that you have never looked at this case from any other viewpoint, besides from kooky conspiracists, who get their education from a cornflakes packet
You need to look at the WHOLE story, it may surprise you
How could the government be so efficient at creating then concealing it for 50years, when they continually get everything else wrong?
Witnesses do NOT all say that they saw Tippet. There are accounts of 2 men; neither of which fit Oswald's description.
The most elementary part of this is the EXIT wound...
The evidence you present about "every doctor at Parkland" actually disproves your whole analysis. What they are is referring to is the grapefruit-sized chunk of the rear of his head that was blown away. Exit wounds tend to be much larger than entry-wounds. His was cut away from his head, postmortem, forming a crude "V".
@mockingbird187 "There are accounts of 2 men; neither of which fit Oswald's description."
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There is ONE witness clements that says that there was 2 shooters, there was 12 (Callaway, Davis, Davis, Reynolds, Patterson, Russell, Lewis, Brock Markham, Scoggins, Benavides, Tatum) that said it was Oswald and positively identified him, please do some research and you won't look so stupid.
And regarding the Parkland Doctors, they were shown the Autopsy Photos and ALL agreed that they were authentic!
@ProtectAus Regarding Tippet, my point is that it wasn't total consensus. Anyway, I believe the doctors say it all; The Men Who Killed Kennedy "The Witnesses" EPISODE 5.
Even the House Select Committee on Assassinations came to the conclusion that it was much more likely than not, that there was more than one shooter, therefore, a conspiracy. Had they let Colby continue as Director of CIA, chances are a LOT more would have come out...however Bush Sr. knew how to shut things down
@mockingbird187 "Even the House Select Committee on Assassinations came to the conclusion"
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Based on the Audio evidence from an open microphone on a policebike they claimed 4 shots in 1979. It has been thoroughly debunked, the bikes are 3 wheelers, the sirens do not coincide with them racing to Parkland, A voice can be heard and is verified to be a few minutes later.
BTW The HSCA proved by analysing all the evidence that Oswald shot JFK and Tippit and they TRIED real hard to find ANY Conspiracy
@New987user "so this proves a consiracy by debunking that there was only one shooter"
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All the forensic evidence shows that JFK was hit twice and Connally was hit once, only from behind and above.
Therefore Oswald was the ONLY sniper.
But when i made this video, i had a mistaken belief that Oswald had outside help, after 1000s of hours of research, my new conclusion is Oswald acted alone.
His luck at getting the TSBD job and being rejected by 4 others in the month of October, proves it!
He has so many holes in his stories that NO modern researcher even mentions this anymore, obviously you are just some Dumbfuck that just believes anything they hear. LMAO LOL HaHaHa etc.
My objective was to show that a light bullet will move a heavy object a small amount. And any bullet hitting JFK from the front would not have the effect as shown in the Zapruder film.
A bullet weighing 8grams travelling at1000mph penetrating an average head of 4-5000grams will move it about an inch or two, simple physics!
BTW i refrained from using REAL WW2 head shot footage, but i found the melon footage showed the exact same effect, tastefully.
OK all of you LHO lone-nut geniuses, can you count? let's count the bullets, shall we? 1. kennedy's throat. 2. connally's back (bullet found on gurney at hospital - the "pristine" bullet). 3. kennedy's head. 4. watch?v=6l428bg2JGY oops again! not to mention these other 2 shots: 1. kennedy's back (see autopsy wounds -- lower wound matches exactly to a carcano round). 2. curb near underpass (fragment nicks bystander). 3. bullet dug up south of spot of kennedy head shot. 4. holein street sign
Did "they" employ the invisible "Keystone Kops" to shoot JFK, these elusive professionals shot signs and grass and curbs, how could these professionals be such lousy shots.
96% of dealey plaza, heard shots from ONE direction
66% heard them from the TSBD
74% heard ONLY 3 shots
The only bullets recovered were from Oswalds rifle.
The Autopsy photos and xrays indicate TWO shots.
The Autopsy photos and xrays are proven authentic by experts
1. kennedy - ENTRANCE WOUND in the throat (proof enough of a second shooter).
2. connally - hit in the LEFT SIDE OF BACK when facing straight ahead FOLLOWING shot #1 (watch ANY zapruder video). this bullet found on hospital gurney according to fbi.
3. kennedy - hit in the head (even you couldn't miss THAT one).
4. THE BULLET DOCTORS SAY IN THE VIDEO I PROVIDED YOU THAT WAS STILL LEFT IN CONNALLY'S LEG AFTER SURGERY TO HIS LUNG WOUND WAS PERFORMED.
2nd Bullet hits JFK in his upper back, goes through soft tissue starts to tumble on exit, Connallys back wound is NOT round but elongated and jagged, Then SIDE-ON the bullet smashes through Connallys torso, the doctors say, lucky the bullet slowed down or Connally would be dead, The bullet then breaks connallys wrist, a FULL powered bullet would have ripped his hand off.
3rd Bullet explodes and fragments do damage to Limo.
LHO was certainly a PART of the conspiracy. those obviously weren't curtain rods he was transporting to work that day. but there is no evidence that he shot anybody. not even tippit. oswald was set up from the beginning and played for a fool.
witness standing on curb at entrance to underpass was hit with a bullet fragment or piece of curb at the precise time of the assassination. cut his cheek. bullet mark found on curb right where he was standing. SHOT #5.
@LiquorWreckedEmGood "oswald was set up from the beginning and played for a fool."
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Are you sure? Oswald was above average intelligence, Alone on the strength of his political beliefs went to Russia and adapted quickly and learned russian skillfully. He manipulated the Russian govt to allow him to stay, He set up his Cuba committee with fake ID that he made.
Knowing that JFK was going by his building, Oswald bought his rifle and gave it to the real sniper? Even you wouldn't be so stupid! LOL
why don't you detail why anybody should buy the magic bullet theory. that a single bullet went thru kennedy's neck (from ABOVE, angling down, hitting 5" BELOW his throat in the back and supposedly exiting from his throat (already impossible) THEN maneuvering to the left to strike connally's left back near armpit, breaking several ribs, exiting thru chest, breaking his wrist AND THEN FOUND IN A NEAR PRISTINE STATE ON CONNELLY'S HOSPITAL GURNEY.
@LiquorWreckedEmGood "why don't you detail why anybody should buy the magic bullet theory."
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Next to "back and to the left", the SBT is the least understood, my video watch?v=HPbFTmckQSE makes it very clear that it is the only possible outcome.
Connallys back wound was OVAL the bullet was deflected inflight by JFKs neck, what else?
@ProtectAus Interesting figures.Quoting random numbers don't constitute fact.Most of the witnesses ran towards the Grassy Knoll.But then you know that don't you?
@adrianberry4 "Most of the witnesses ran towards the Grassy Knoll"
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Most witnesses were running to where JFK was shot, some ran up the Knoll MINUTES later, This running up the Knoll chasing gunmen is just Bullshit
Look at Mary Moormans Photo there are THREE men standing on the stairs leading up to the Knoll, just a few yards away from any shooter, They ALL say NO shots came from the Knoll, these are by FAR the best witnesses, but are always ignored by conspiracists.
@adrianberry4 "I must be honest you really are an expert"
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Yeah, ive studied JFK for a long time and i was once a smart arse cretin like you, then i read the HSCA report and the intellectual detail within, shits on Groden, White, Fetzer and etc etc
Why have any frontal shooter if you are setting up Oswald from behind???
Mary Moorman took a photo of the Knoll at the EXACT time of the headshot, and there is NO smoke and NO sniper, the guys on the steps in front of the Knoll said the TSBD!
oh! i get it now. you still think LHO was the lone shooter!
wow! i had no idea there were any of you clueless morons left!
let me give you a FAR more likely scenario than the warren report: LHO was a conspirator, provided a gun, had his lunch on 2nd floor during the shooting for alibi, was picked up by station wagon after shooting (multiple witnesses) and driven home. same car or another car drives him to TT told to wait. guy shoots tippit with LHO gun and meets LHO - hands him gun. calls cops
Let me get this right, the conspirators wanted Oswald seen on the 2nd floor, even though they went to the trouble of planting Oswalds prints, and 3 shells and shirt fibers, and blanket fibers on the rifle and snipers nest on the SIXTH FLOOR!
Brennan saw Oswald with a rifle in the Snipers Nest window and supplied a VERY accurate description within minutes.
Then you proceed with the most irrational, illogical fairy tale ever.
Oswald had a UNIQUE bus transfer ticket and Bledsoe actually knew Oswald on the bus, Wagon story is someone else.
"meets LHO - hands him gun. calls cops" You don't really believe that, do you?
Your little scenario is really fucked up, and contrary to ALL the known evidence, I'm sorry but your fiction is getting pretty tedious, time for you to fuck off!
A paraffin test was applied to Oswald's hands and right cheek, paraffin tests by the FBI with Oswalds rifle produced many negatives as well, The Carcano is a sealed rifle and an insignificant amount of nitrates are deposited on the body, The negative result is predictable and really means nothing.
Oswald didn't kill Kennedy. You neglect to mention that he called out, 'I'm just a patsy'. There was a .222 bullet casing dug up with teeth marks just behind the stockade fence atop the grassy knoll as well.
@HolaDeco "'You neglect to mention that he called out, 'I'm just a patsy'"
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You fail to say what immediately preceded his "patsy" comment, that the "Dallas Police arrested Oswald for living in Russia", therefore Oswald was being arrested for being a communist, this is his patsy meaning and he said it only once.
BTW JFK was shot only from behind, twice, the xrays and autopsy photos verify this.
@ProtectAus and you believe those photos, all that 'evidence'? You do realise that the bullet wound in JFK's back was moved for the sake of the report - altering of evidence, which is a federal crime in almost every country.
@HolaDeco "You do realise that the bullet wound in JFK's back was moved"
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How do you move a back wound? There is authentic photo's which match perfectly with the Autopsy description of "14cm below the tip of the Mastoid process" which is what the Warren commision worked with.
Ford said ''My changes were only an attempt to be more precise.''
Originally the rough draft said the bullet entered his back, which isn't very specific is it? so he added "back of his neck" which is exactly right.
Johnny Brewer watch?v=VrN0VkJUxas who actually had the Police phoned up after he saw Oswald close up, from 10feet away, says that it was AFTER 1:15 and positively picked Oswald out of the Audience of the Texas Theater.
Earlene Roberts watch?v=VK2iwspOKSo who was living with Oswald said Oswald came into her boarding house after 1pm.
I think Roberts who actually knew Oswald easily debunks Butch who only saw Oswald sneak in.
Did he FLY?, it was over 2 miles and there were NO buses and NO taxis and Oswald didn't drive?
Roberts says he was at the boarding house for 3-4 minutes, then she said he waited at the bus stop outside! Allowing for your compression of times to suit your bizarre argument then leaves him with 2-3 minutes to make it, by Butch's exact 1:07.
Brewer matched Tippits Killers description on the radio, therefore it must be way after 1:15
the video i provided you clearly shows brewer to be wrong on every single point in the broadcast description. why on earth would you assume him to be correct about the time he saw LHO in his store?
both butch and brewer were asked to id LHO. both were with police at the time of arrest. butch didn't get the description 100% wrong. brewer did.
brewer's description matched what LHO was wearing? so what? the point is he said LHO matched the description. he clearly didn't. ur logicsux
stupid theorists
LittleRicky63 2 weeks ago
I thought Oswald was a big blue octapus lol
mafiascaglione049 4 weeks ago
Rediculious conclusion with listing only selected facts that you want to prove your point. Seems you drew definite conclusions on alot of speculative facts. Wasted 10 minutes
chaneyranch99 1 month ago
@chaneyranch99"listing only selected facts that you want to prove your point"
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The Dallas Police solved this double murder within a couple of days, only "high school dropouts" without a clue, are perpetuating and regurgitating the long disproved nonsense spouted by crafty money hungry JFK researchers, who use selective quotes that try and distort the official record.
Oswald was in "flight" as soon as he murdered JFK, this has NO explanation and would convict Oswald on it's own!
ProtectAus 1 month ago
Get rid of the fucking annoying as dramatic music asshole
. facts dont music to help enforce them
chaneyranch99 1 month ago
While I respect your opinion, there are numerous facts that you have left out. Having read more books on the subject than I can count (from both sides of the "argument"), I have come to the conclusion that the Warren Commission only REAL goal was to engender stability in the government from the perspective of the rest of the world. There are certainly "conspiracy theorists" out there that believe every potential theory that comes along..and that is foolish, but so is blind support of the WC.
88Stings 1 month ago
mmmmm... Watermelon!
whitedaddy4u 1 month ago
You place first shot during tree blockage of 6th flr east window. Why would anyone in that window fire at car unsighted? Yet not have fired while car was facing - making strike of others less likely? You place Connally hit earlier than did the man himself, and his wife. They recalled, the Z film shows, & you miss: a major hit of Connally just before 313 - 4 frames prior. So Connally described it, from hospital Nov '63; or, w L King c. 1999. Larry almost got it: proof of two shooters.
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@newsmanbluesman "Yet not have fired while car was facing..."
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1) Oswald would have been seen much easier by the Secret Service who had Machine Guns.
2) To shoot down Houston, you must be in the center of a bright sun drenched window, and extremely exposed.
3) Elm st is sloped, down and away from the TSBD so JFK was moving very slowly in Oswald's sights, and is another reason why Houston was not used because the angle was changing much faster.
Connally only hit 1 time at Z223!
ProtectAus 1 month ago
Amercia
cruisersism 3 months ago
jfk commited suicide
dman1311974 3 months ago
There are so many factual errors in this video that it would actually require making a video to respond to them. I'm seriously considering doing that. The WC report draws conclusions which are just not supportable by the evidence, nor the testimony given. Bare minimum is that Dulles' placement on the Commission invalidates its work because it is a conflict of interest. Single bullet is impossible because he back wound did not exit, and additional bullets were found around Dealey Plaza.
TheTubePortal 4 months ago
@TheTubePortal "The WC report draws conclusions which are just not supportable by the evidence"
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HaHaHa!
Go ahead and make a video, it should be good for a laugh.
ProtectAus 4 months ago
@ProtectAus I've been reading and studying about the JFK assassination since I was 14 years old and can guarantee that I know at least 10 times as much about it as do you. I've read all 26 volumes of testimony, about two dozens books both pro-WC and anti-WC, and have posted on forums run by some of these authors. If you're going to be sarcastic and smug then at least pretend to know what you're talking about.
TheTubePortal 4 months ago
@TheTubePortal "I've been reading and studying about the JFK assassination, blah blah blah"
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YAWN.
As i said you're ALL talk, go and make your video and then you can speak to me.
But first go to my channel and see my TEN JFK videos, this was only my first video, and refute them all, if you can.
ProtectAus 4 months ago
@ProtectAus Why so smug? It makes you look bad and does a disservice to what you're trying to present. If you really care about this issue then your concern should be the same as mine and everyone else's - to find out the truth, not insult other professional and armchair researchers. Anyone who researches this case should be doing so because he loves his country, loves freedom, and loves truth, not because he wants to call people names, disprove the "other side" or get attention for himself.
TheTubePortal 4 months ago
@TheTubePortal "not insult other professional and armchair researchers"
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How the fuck have i offended you, precious?
You have been the only dickhead with any insults, you say you can show the truth with your video, well go do it, why waste time regurgitating your stupid nonsense?
Btw I'm smug because i know for a fact, that i know and understand this case infinitely more than you could ever possibly comprehend!
Did you watch my other JFK videos yet, you may learn something.
ProtectAus 4 months ago
@ProtectAus I'm not going to waste any further time on you. Those who care about this matter - one of the most important events in American history - try to work together rather than act like a childish know-it-all. Nobody, no matter whether they support the WC's conclusions or not, has all of the answers. Even the WC said there were matters on which they could not come to a conclusion. With your attitude you push people away instead of helping them to learn. Season your words with salt!
TheTubePortal 4 months ago
@TheTubePortal "work together rather than act like a childish know-it-all"
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Didn't you just say this yesterday, "and can guarantee that I know at least 10 times as much about it as do you", you are the worst type of hypocrite, who can barely piece together a coherent and logical argument and resorts to emotional slander, when he is stumped by my brilliance, but i guess when everything else in your pathetic existence sux, what else can you resort to?
Come back when you have proved yourself!
ProtectAus 4 months ago
A little info about the weapons and the problem with the gunshot residue ... The shell casings do not match the slugs and on the revolver (source FBI) and with the barrel having been refitted before being imported back to the U.S. the riffling is inconsistent from one round to the next. The riffle is a different length and type from the order form in evidence . The parafin wax test is invalid. antimony was the element on the cast, he was printed before and finger print ink also contains antimony
blindjfk 4 months ago
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EyeOfTheSphinx 5 months ago
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EyeOfTheSphinx 5 months ago
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EyeOfTheSphinx 5 months ago
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EyeOfTheSphinx 5 months ago
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EyeOfTheSphinx 5 months ago
You can argue all you want but just remember who you are arguing for and what these people are all about. USA is the super power of the world for a reason, and what do you think it takes to become the super power of the world, honesty? Integrity? Good deeds? Going by the book? Amazingly you can believe in a magic bullet but not a good frame job by the powers that be. The entire case has all the marking of a framing and cover-up, all the little clues are there. Ask Joseph Milteer!
EyeOfTheSphinx 5 months ago
But the more that once confidential and classified documents are coming out, the more we know that he was working with or for the CIA as well as with the FBI. That fact alone changes everything and you know it. I could list a hundred other proven facts but it won't matter. The people were spoonfed what they were supposed to hear. Know how many people involved died during the next few years? If the powers that be are going to frame somebody, they're going to do a damned good job at it: ZRRIFLE
EyeOfTheSphinx 5 months ago
@EyeOfTheSphinx
Oswald NEVER worked for the CIA. Those declassified documents just reveal nothing about any conspiracy.
He was a Marine, yes he worked in a base, yes he never had any access to secrets. I mean , he was a defecteor and tried to go to Russia (successfuly). When he came back he was investigated and harrassed by the FBI, could'nt support his family, couldn't find a decent job, in a country that had a capitalist government. He was frustrated! But NEVER a CIA agent! Come on!!!
captainkavern 5 months ago
@captainkavern Actually, it seems to me that a good job was found for him in a photo lab. And if I remember right it was possibly found for him by a good friend that did have connections but on that job Lee acted like he wanted to be fired. Yet at his last job with the school book depository he was thought of as a good worker.
conspiracydog11 4 months ago
@conspiracydog11
the story I found out was a bit different. He worked in that lab much before working in the book depository and was unemployed between those two jobs. He was hired in the depository before the Dallas trip was even planned. And he was contacted for another job he applied to 2 days after having been hired by the book depository. too bad...
captainkavern 4 months ago
@captainkavern And I think that the salary on that job was $310 per month while the depository job was only $210 per month and not a permanent position. Just another of the contradictions that was the life of Lee Harvey Oswald.
conspiracydog11 4 months ago
I'm worried you still won't make the connection, put it like this.... If LHO didn't want to get caught, he would have done better than leaving the rifle out in the open and leaving the shells. Beyond that, a revolver doesn't discharge shells, them being on the ground by JDT means that he pulled the pin, swung open the revolving mechanism & dumped them. That makes little sense. Yet he supposedly had the rest of the bullets in the gun when arrested, so he picked them out 1 x 1 at the scene? FRAMED
EyeOfTheSphinx 5 months ago
@EyeOfTheSphinx
we will never had the perfect answer. Let me tell you if Oswald was caught in a conspiracy of that magnitude nothing would have been left to chance! First of all he was hired in the texas book depository, in october, before Kennedy himself and his entourage decided the trip to dallas. In my opinion Oswald din't have any plan after the shooting, he just improvised. and made a lot of mistakes...
captainkavern 5 months ago
I apologize 4 my comment ("Just stupid")...Sorry: I didn´t watch the clip until the end at this time! But: If you are research ALL the sources serios you will be convinced that L.H. Oswald wasn´t the killer of JFK!!!
And to your question: "Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me!" :)
TheGralswaechter 5 months ago
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...but you are wrong!
TheGralswaechter 5 months ago
just stupid
TheGralswaechter 5 months ago
@TheGralswaechter "just stupid"
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And i just checked your channel, your paranoia is really scary.
Is everyone really out to get you???
ProtectAus 5 months ago
Nice try however tests had shown that Oswald had not fired a gun! The rest is your fanciful imagination running away with itself. Oswald said "I'm just the patsy" and that is exactly what you won't believe because the deception succeeded.
paolojustice 5 months ago
Also watch /watch?v=RXPK9B0eRY8&feature=related & 7 wounds in 2 bodies with 3 shots?? I really think you need to do some more research..
newworldodour 5 months ago
@newworldodour "I really think you need to do some more research.."
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I have done a lot more research than you!
This was my first video and i said that Oswald did not act alone, but i was wrong, Oswald did act alone it's as simple as that!
Go to my channel and watch my "Refuting JFK Conspiracy" series and learn something.
Just click on ProtectAus
ProtectAus 5 months ago
@ProtectAus pkease explain to me then how 7 wounds can be generated by 3 shots then? You obviously haven't looked into any of the information i suggested, E Howard Hunt's deathbed confession and LBJ's mistress testimony by Alex Jones. If you think "it's a simple as that" explain why so many people heard shots from the grassy knoll passing over their heads and why so many ppl gave chase in that direction? I bet you also think Sirhan Sirhan acted alone too 13 shots fired from an 8 shooter??
newworldodour 5 months ago
@ProtectAus Also a melon is not going to behave in the same way as flesh and bone, how come one shot throws head forward but the other backwards? And who was in a position of authority to change the route of the motorcade and also the stand down of the secret service agents that were there to protect him, even they knew something was amiss? Another president that was assassinated was Lincoln who also had plans to axe the federal reserve, far too many unanswered questions & too many assumptions
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Research??!! WTF!! Have you seen the Howard Hunt death bed confession and also the revealing documentary that Alex Jones did with Lyndon Baines Johnson's secretary, it's very revealing, also Bush was CIA chief and there was many shots fired all very suspicious. At 911 3 Israeli's were there to document the event, how did they know? Its also no surprise that Zepruder was also Jewish
newworldodour 5 months ago
We'd like to see you put this much effort into the WM3 murders. That case also has a multitude of theories floating around that have changed since 6 May 1993. These theories will expand when Paradise Lost 3 is released.
This JFK stuff is ancient history now and not worth the effort to debate it anymore. Most of the actors are dead. If it was something other than Oswald we'll each find out when we get yanked out of the cesspool. Good work on the video!
raynefallz1 5 months ago
plus his landlord saw him on the bus
Obelisk2290 5 months ago
rather well made little film. but unfortunately,, Oswald is guilty, and acted alone.
captainkavern 5 months ago
@captainkavern "Oswald is guilty, and acted alone"
I was a little hasty in making this videos conclusion, i wasn't sure of a conspiracy, but after further research i now am sure Oswald acted alone.
ProtectAus 5 months ago
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Glad to read that. So many people belive there was a conspiracy without doing proper research (and being open-minded). great choice of music!!!
captainkavern 5 months ago
@ProtectAus I'm reassured that you now believe Oswald acted alone. Perhaps you should take down this video and publish a revision. It is refreashing when I hear someone like youself reconcider their positions. So many are closed-minded on these issues.
abennett4 5 months ago
@abennett4 "I'm reassured that you now believe Oswald acted alone"
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After i posted this video i realized something, the MOST important fact to the 99% of modern researchers or Youtube Experts etc etc is that Oswald was innocent of everything and was just a patsy.
Conspiracy ranks way down because they know that no one agrees on anything beyond Oswald was a patsy.
ProtectAus 5 months ago
@captainkavern Such a shame he just left his rifle up there, with the bullets....Same thing with Tippit's shooting, this guy seemed to do everything to try and get caught...Yet eludes capture and fiercely protest his innocence. And, of course he unfortunately died before anything could be learned.
EyeOfTheSphinx 5 months ago
@EyeOfTheSphinx
Of course he left the rifle!!! Do you think he could have left the bulding by the main entrance with the rifle without being noticed? By the way if he didn't do anything, explain me why he left the building he was supposed to work!
he left empty shells because guess what he was a little bit in a hurry!!! he had only a few second to get out of there!!! "fiercely protest his innonce"??? what? since when does it make him innocent? if he was innocent he would'nt have draw his gun !!
captainkavern 5 months ago
@captainkavern Uhhh..At least take the shells and bullet. Fine, lets go with the idea he couldnt have figured out any way to get the rifle out, why the hell didn't he have a hiding place for it? "Left shells cuz he was in a hurry" Man, it takes all of 2 seconds to grab those shells, but of course your theory has to line up with the Jesse Owens sprint down to the snd floor LR. YET THE DESCRIPTION OF OSWALD WAS BASED ON SEEING HIM STANDING IN THE WINDOW AFTER THE SHOOTING. So he stands & stares?
EyeOfTheSphinx 5 months ago
Yet doesnt pick up the shells? Interesting. More interesting is how the shells of a revolver ended up near Tippits body. So are you under the impression he took the time out to eject the casings? To leave more clues? No, you don't get it do you, half of his supposed actions show he was doing everything in his power to not get caught and the other half is that of a man who doesnt care or wants to get caught. Not having a good hiding spot for the rifle AND leaving shells/Staring out the window/YET
EyeOfTheSphinx 5 months ago
performing a record breaking sprint to appear he was in the 2nd floor LR. Fleeing the scene/Purposely ejecting shells from a revolver/YET running away and hiding in the movie house. These actions are like that of two different men. Several of them are blatantly foolish and point the finger straight at him, yet the actions we DO KNOW ABOUT, the fleeing, hiding and resisting arrest, proclaiming innocence are completely contrary. He HAD to have known leaving rifle with paper trail would lead to him
EyeOfTheSphinx 5 months ago
So no, of course I wasnt saying that claiming innocence made him innocent. I can't believe you couldn't grasp what I was getting at. It just doesn't make sense. Like a hundred other things about this case but Lone Nutters dont look at them. Also, how do you explain the fact that the Director of the CIA admitted he worked with CIA and FBI? That doesnt tell you something?
EyeOfTheSphinx 5 months ago
@EyeOfTheSphinx
It was some kind of humour...the big problem with you conspiracy fans is that everything has "to make sense".
The president is killed? It must be something bigger than him! Well actually it could have been. But has unbearable has it seems, (and I did my research) it is not the case. because you have to understand something, politically speaking JFK 's death changed nothing at all.
captainkavern 5 months ago
the problem is in texas u wouldnt need an ID nevermind a fake ID to buy a rifle. 2nd the DPD ID the rifle as a german made mauser not an italian carcano until the next day. 3rd oswalds palm print wasnt discover when the DPD of FBI looked at it only after oswald was killed did the print show up (dallas mortician claimed he scrubbed ink off LHO hands) 4. the handgun bullet casings would not have fit in LHO gun that killed tippet. 5 connally himself says 2 different bullets hit JFK and him.
pat442389 6 months ago
@pat442389 Answers
1) Shops kept records and reciepts of what rifle was sold and to whom in 63, and checked ID to make sure you were old enough, Oswald was a small 24yo. Mail ord. was MUCH cheaper than a shop, Oswald was poor.
2) The rifle being taken out of hiding was filmed by TV cameras was a Carcano.
3) Day took Oswalds rifle prints on 22/11/63
4) The 4 shells matched oswalds pistol that he pulled on cops in the theater, 30min later.
5) Zapruder film shows JFK and Connally hit at same time!
ProtectAus 6 months ago
@ProtectAus
LHO captured with a .38 Special revolver. Shells at Tippit scene were .38 Automatic.
"In an FBI report, Poe firmly stated that he marked the case with
his initials, "J.M.P." before turning them over to Dallas Crime Lab
personnel. However, on June 12, 1964, the FBI showed Poe the four .38
Special cases used as evidence of Oswald's guilt by the Warren Commission."
your problem is that you believe everything this lying government tells you.
most people have caught on by now.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 6 months ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood "However, on June 12, 1964, the FBI showed Poe the four .38"
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Sorry wrong again Poe wasn't sure if he marked 2 of the shells, the other 2 shells have a clear chain of custody.
You have proved time and time again that you zero knowledge of this case.
ProtectAus 6 months ago
so many "coincidences" to this case. here's another. each shot fired at exactly the time the limo was in a clear line of sight first from the Dal-Tex building, then the Book Suppository, then the grassy knoll.
bang, bang-bang,bang-bang,bang,bang,bang,bang,bang.
that's right, at LEAST 10 shots, maybe 11.
ProtectYourAnus here conveniently IGNORES any evidence to the contrary of a lone gunman.
if your gun isn't smoking he disallows it. if it pops into his head on a whim it's golden. I-D-I-O-T.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 6 months ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood "bang, bang-bang,bang-bang,bang,bang,bang,bang,bang"
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96% of earwitnesses heard shots from ONE direction=Oswald!
Nearly 80% heard ONLY 3 shots.
11% heard more than 3 shots.
This is tabulated from 200 average civilians.
Exactly where do you get your evidence?
I continually prove you wrong, then you copy and paste some more conspiracy nonsense.
Your persistence is admirable, but your constant insults are the sign of a frustrated loser, hopelessly trying but never achieving!
ProtectAus 6 months ago
@protectAus are you serious? You say the Warren commission was right and there was no cover up? That is what you are saying? I just wanted to make sure I understood your bullshit!!!! What about 9-11 these 2 events are related because of the lies our government tells and those criminals the Bushes!! Enlighten us common folk with your exceptional intelligence you obviously possess! You must work for this bullshit government because a man of your superior intellect could not be so wrong!!!! YEA RI
pearlofprice 6 months ago
Biggest work of fiction since vows of fidelity were included in the French marriage service.You must be one of those nodding dogs,a,yes-man who believe's what your government tells you.Oswald's fingerprints were found on the weapon AFTER he himself was killed.The rifle was a piece of junk,had a defective scope and a two stage trigger.Even expert marksmen couldn't repeat the feat attributed to Oswald.As for that stupid back spasm idea,he had a back brace on.His head was hit twice.Wake up dickhead
adrianberry4 6 months ago
@adrianberry4 "The rifle was a piece of junk"
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And was used by the Italian Shooting team at the Olympics, you are just a fool, who stupidly just repeats anything they are told like a 200 pound Parrot, Polly want a cracker?
All your theories have long been proven to be lies, and are massively contradictory
Watch any WW2 documentary where they shoot prisoners in the head, and they never get thrown anywhere, they just fall down, a light bullet striking and penetrating someone isn't like Rambo! LOL
ProtectAus 6 months ago
@ProtectAus You are obviously not from this planet.Your theory defies the laws of physics and common sense,something you certainly do not have.The idea that a bullet can retain it's shape and form after going through dense bone and muscle is impossible,and you it.You and other Warren Commission apologists can stretch to believe it but you are in a minority,whether you like it or not.The fact you respond with insults has found you out,Lemming.You are being paid too much.Who has proven them lies?
adrianberry4 6 months ago
@adrianberry4 "The fact you respond with insults has found you out"
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Your first comment called me a Dickhead, do you remember?
I find it ironic that someone with a limited education can make any comment regarding physics, in defiance of what real professionals who actually work with bullet ballistics, have concluded?
CE399 was completely flattened on one side, after CE399 left JFK, it tumbled into Connally and left an OVAL, Connallys scar proves that CE399 entered side on.
CE399 hit JFK 1st!
ProtectAus 6 months ago
@ProtectAus Just curious, what was the size of Conally's entrance wound on his back?
whatdidulearn 6 months ago
@ProtectAus Do you believe the 3cm wound on his back proves that the bullet entered as you say "side on?" Or would you be more in agreement with Dr. Shaw who testified the wound was 1.6 cms at its greatest dimension and HE made the wound 3cms after cleaning and debriding the wound?
whatdidulearn 6 months ago
@whatdidulearn "1.6 cms at its greatest dimension"
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A Carcano bullet is 6.5mm and leaves this size hole when it impacts without deflection, as indicated by JFKs back wound, Connallys 15mm x 8mm back wound was obviously caused by a tumbling bullet and the exit wound was 50mm just under his right nipple.
Whats your point?
ProtectAus 6 months ago
@adrianberry4 CBS did a special in the 70's where shooters were able to accomplish Oswald's feat with ease. 10 out of 11 hit theit mark 2 out of 3 (just like Oswald). Most in less than 8 seconds. Oswald had more time. Firearm experts testified to the Warren Commission that it was an "easy" shot from the TSBD. COmmon sense and geometry show likewise. Protectaus has some excellent videos (including Oswalds Shartshooter results from the marines) on his Youtube channel demonstrating all the above.
abennett4 5 months ago
This is a bullshit video and a complete waste of time for anyone interested in what really happened that fateful day in Dallas. You are a jackass.
brahunt 6 months ago
@brahunt "what really happened that fateful day in Dallas"
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Oswald did it, there is overwhelming physical and forensic evidence and a plethora of eyewitnesses.
Unfortunately there is a lot of brainless morons like you, who believe every little piece of conspiracy nonsense and never do a scrap of real research, besides what you learn from other ignorant twats, all who have a dollar interest in keeping you stupid!
Go ahead and believe what you want, the truth is what it is!
ProtectAus 6 months ago
@ProtectAus
I just finished watching the COMPLETE nix film. Hill and Mooreman are not shown in that film. Why don't you point me to the copy of the Nix film that does show them. If you can.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 6 months ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood "Hill and Mooreman are not shown in that film" re Nix film
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watch?v=vNIXfiii_vo @0.09 Mary is clearly visible and again you can SEE all of her boots!
Do you know anything about this case? You're continually wrong!
ProtectAus 6 months ago
@ProtectAus
Just how long HAVE you been a disinformation agent working for the CIA?
All done arguing with you. You're not right in the head.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 6 months ago
@ProtectAus
That is not Mary Moorman you idiot. Jean Hill is standing next to Mary Moorman wearing a RED raincoat. The 2 women are not even shown on that video.
You are wrong about everything. You don't even know the basics. You haven't done your homework.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 6 months ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood "That is not Mary Moorman you idiot. Jean Hill is standing next to Mary Moorman"
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In the Nix film watch?v=vNIXfiii_vo @ 0.09 Mary in the Navy blue coat and since her white shoes are clearly visible that means that she is NOT on the road, And you blind? and you can see Jeans red coat but only for a few frames.
watch?v=vO8vnfieuDs Mary is looking at the TSBD, and describing when she took THAT photo and she may well have been on the street, but she is NOT on the street later!
ProtectAus 6 months ago
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@ProtectAus
""Hill and Mooreman are not shown in that film" re Nix film"
Wrong again Einstein. Hill is wearing the red raincoat and Moorman is standing right next to her.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 6 months ago
Agreed, acoustic evidence not shut; book recently written about argument continuing. "Hear No Evil" by Donald Byron Thomas. Xray and pics were allegedly authenticated. Mmuch like gov alleged that the people who did autopsy described JFK's wounds totally differently from Docs @ Parkland... which they didn't. All 40 or so of the witnesses from BOTH Parkland and Bethesda described JFK in a way that contradicts the "authenticated" photos.
mockingbird187 6 months ago
Don't bother arguing with this guy. He argues like a woman (or a liberal, same thing). He doesn't respond to specific arguments but instead, when bested, he changes the subject and moves the goal posts.
As many of you have already figured out and as E. Howard Hunt says ON HIS DEATH BED, LBJ was behind the JFK assassination and he was supported by the CIA who contracted the shooters.
Look up Mac Wallace. LBJ's button man. His thumbprint was found on a box in the 6th floor sniper nest. Oops.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 6 months ago 2
@LiquorWreckedEmGood "or a liberal, same thing"
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You come with a LOT of baggage when you try to analyse JFK, and i come with a completely independent perspective, and have no bias only facts, this is why you fail.
Wallace was NOT in the snipers nest, the ONLY unidentified Print was a PALMPRINT, i told you this already and provided you with the evidence which is the only source of this information.
LBJ in a phone conversation was asking if any shots were at him, LBJ(prick) was NOT involved,
ProtectAus 6 months ago
@ProtectAus
a. A thumb print belonging to Mac Wallace WAS found on a box in the snipers nest. That is a fact. Sorry if my fact contradicts your mistaken opinion.
b. you point as "evidence" of Johnson's innocence a PHONE CALL between the very two principle conspirators, LBJ and J Edgar Hoover? A phone call that Johnson fully well KNEW was being recorded? One word: ROTFLMFAO.
I have a death bed confession by a senior CIA and White House official (among other things). You have a phone call.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 6 months ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood "A thumb print belonging to Mac Wallace"
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ALL of the identifiable fingerprints and palmprints on the four TSBD boxes (except one single PALMPRINT, as mentioned multiple times in CE3131) belonged either to Lee Harvey Oswald (which Mandella was able to confirm, since Mandella had Oswald's prints for comparison purposes) or the several DPD members mentioned in Commission Exhibit No. 3131.
BTW Why would an experienced professional like Wallace leave ONE thumbprint?, and how?
ProtectAus 6 months ago
@ProtectAus
"Why would an experienced professional like Wallace leave ONE thumbprint?, and how?"
Why would "an experienced professional" leave tape on a door in the watergate complex after hours and get his entire team caught? that team consisting of experienced FBI and CIA men.
Answer? Shit happens. People make mistakes. ESPECIALLY when they are pulling the trigger ON THE FUCKING PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 6 months ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood "two principle conspirators, LBJ and J Edgar Hoover?"
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This is so stupid it defies description! Hoover had what to gain? and a LOT to lose, his self image in history was important and being involved in this is just absurd.
LBJ was 2 cars back in an OPEN Limo and you reckon that there were multiple snipers that were organised by LBJ, essentially shooting at himself and his secret service and his mate Connally?
There would be far easier ways to KILL JFK, if you had a choice?
ProtectAus 6 months ago
@ProtectAus
Look how closely LBJ's car hugged JFK's limo on the turn onto Houston. Where is it on Elm? JFK's limo came to a near halt at the time of the head shot (Nix film). Both JFK and Connally had been hit by that time.
Both Jean Hill and Mary Mooreman said they STEPPED OFF THE CURB to take their photos of the president. Where are they in the Z film?
Once again, you didn't watch the video series, did you.
These are facts. Not your vapid conclusions.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 6 months ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood "Mary Mooreman said they STEPPED OFF THE CURB"
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You do realize that the PoliceBikes were riding along in the gutter and would hit anyone who was anywhere near the road?
But much more important is that Nix and Muchmore filmed Hill and Moorman at the EXACT same time time as Zapruder and in ALL 3 movies Moorman is standing on the grass, a little genuine research would stop you looking so foolish!
BTW My conclusions are based on reality, what do you base your conclusions on?
ProtectAus 6 months ago
@ProtectAus
"PoliceBikes were riding along in the gutter and would hit anyone who was anywhere near the road..."
the police bikes were approximately 2 feet from the left curb. they were not "riding along the gutter". this should be clear to anybody watching the Z film.
you are making up your own facts to suit your case.
once again, SHOW ME the film that shows hill and moorman standing on the grass.
only the Z film shows that and it was altered.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 6 months ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood "this should be clear to anybody watching the Z film."
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So you are using the Zapruder film to show that the Zapruder film is fake??? Undeniablly clever logic right there! LMAO
ProtectAus 6 months ago
@ProtectAus
IF YOU HAD ACTUALLY WATCHED THE VIDEO SERIES THAT I GAVE YOU, you would know that the portion of the Z film that has been altered was the background, on the south of Elm. There is no contention over where the motorcycles were riding.
But you refuse to view the ABUNDANT evidence that i have handed to you.
You're as corrupt as the US Senate when they declared the articles of Bill Clinton's impeachment dead on arrival without even looking at it.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 6 months ago
@ProtectAus HL Hunt bought the film from Abraham Zapruder 2hrs after the assassiation,that's the altered copy we see on tv.
adrianberry4 6 months ago
@adrianberry4 "Hunt bought the film from Abraham Zapruder"
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And Zapruder kept the original, The Zapruder film has not been altered, or had any frames removed, the ghost images between the sprocket holes is unfakeable.
JFKs head violently snaps forward, before the much slower neurological reaction.
Simple physics says that a bullet weighing 1/3 of an ounce will not move a human body more than an inch or two, Mythbusters have proven that people do NOT react like a Hollywood Movie, when shot.
ProtectAus 6 months ago
@ProtectAus
Here you go. The Maria Muchmore film shows Hill and Moorman standing ON THE STREET near the gutter with the police bikes a couple of feet away.
watch?v=-vbgwB3_C4s
where does the Z film show these 2 women standing? I'll tell you. It shows them standing 2 feet BACK from the curb on the grass.
an obvious alteration. and only one of many.
once again, did you watch the video series i showed you?
NO.
do your homework.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 6 months ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood "The Maria Muchmore film shows Hill and Moorman standing ON THE STREET"
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They are both standing on the grass, and you can see ALL their shoes, a bit difficult if they are standing on the lower street, please STOP embarrassing yourself, this is TOO easy!
ProtectAus 6 months ago
@ProtectAus
They are clearly both standing on the street right off the curb where they both testified they stood. They BOTH stated that they "stepped off the grass onto the street and yelled hey mr president". Hill wore the red raincoat to attract JFK's attention. unfortunately all she attracted was assorted brain matter.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 6 months ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood"both standing on the street"
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watch?v=Pcpo6BMDLYI&feature=related The Muchmore film @ 0.09 you see Hill and Moorman standing on the grass, There is NO shadow being cast by them on the road?, The motobikes just inches away have awesome long shadows, This is the 10th piece of solid evidence i have given confirming the authenticity of the Zapruder film, and i still have a many more!
In the Nix film watch?v=vNIXfiii_vo @ 0.09 Mary and is clearly visible, and Jean for 3 frames
ProtectAus 6 months ago
@ProtectAus
blah blah blah. bullshit. you want to impress me? watch the video series i gave you and then debunk all 132 points made BY EXPERTS IN THE FIELD (as opposed to some dumb kid on youtube).
LiquorWreckedEmGood 6 months ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood "blah blah blah. bullshit"
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EVERY ridiculous piece of fucked up conspiracy nonsense you have regurgitated i have continually debunked with simple undeniable logic from real film and photos.
Go and peddle your stupidity elsewhere, dummy!
ProtectAus 6 months ago
@ProtectAus
What did Hoover have to gain?
Didn't LBJ shortly thereafter appoint him as lifetime head of the FBI?
Didn't Hoover hate both Kennedy brothers with a passion?
Jesus, do you know ANYTHING about this case?
LiquorWreckedEmGood 6 months ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood "Didn't LBJ shortly thereafter appoint him as lifetime head of the FBI?"
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Hoover was SIXTY EIGHT years old and had been The Director of the FBI for THIRTY years when JFK was assassinated, and you reckon he killed JFK, for job security? HaHaHaHa
ProtectAus 6 months ago
@ProtectAus
Hoover hated the Kennedys. Hoover was also at retirement age but didn't want to retire. Hoover didn't need much coaxing to protect LBJ from any investigation. In return LBJ gave Hoover a lifetime position. These are undisputed facts. The FBI filtered which witness testimonies it used in the investigation as did the WC. If anything didn't fit their story it was omitted.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 6 months ago
Sorry, meant to say that not all witnesses say they saw Oswald kill Tippet. Anyway, go do some REAL research, Gallagher.
Not going to say whether head moving back was result of bullet, but all I know is that watermelon is a horrible way of proving or disproving this. Those melons were incinerated... as gruesome as his death was, the President was not decapitated.
mockingbird187 6 months ago
@mockingbird187 "watermelon is a horrible way of proving or disproving this"
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The alternative is to show actual WW2 footage of headshots, but the watermelon footage was far more tasteful.
Real Research will tell you that TWELVE witnesses saw Oswald kill Tippit or running away with a gun, Clements who claims 2 men killing Tippit admits to coming out way after, and probably saw Callaway and Benavides.
I have researched this for years, read MORE and get a decent argument, then come back!
ProtectAus 6 months ago
@ProtectAus The Men Who Killed Kennedy "The Witnesses" episode 5 ... at about 6 minutes. Also "The smoking guns" episode 6... at about 22 minutes. If you need more, there are plenty of other sources beyond this series to support.
mockingbird187 6 months ago
@mockingbird187 "If you need more"
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The Autopsy photos and Xrays have been proven, to be authentic, and show JFK with 2 rear hits and Connally with one.
The Xrays and photos are in the public domain and have been studied by hundreds of doctors who do not dispute that they are JFK.
You do realize that many people saw JFK with a side wound, but are never interviewed, JFK conspiracists make stacks of money from twisted truth!
The Zapruder film shows matter flying forward and a forward thrust.
ProtectAus 6 months ago
@ProtectAus "The Autopsy photos and Xrays have been proven, to be authentic..."
Look into the ARRB and the set of documents that were supposed to be released in 2028. Some were released beforehand and show further inconsistencies, not to the above-mentioned, but in the testimony allegedly given by people at Bethesda. Sorry, I can't yet close the case.
I just find it hard to believe that, if the were nothing to hide, the evidence, witnesses, etc. would have been handled so poorly/secretively.
mockingbird187 6 months ago
@ProtectAus Some also flew behind and landed on B.Hargis as you well know.He was hit once in the head from behind,and a split second later on the side of the head with a high velocity mercury loaded round from the front,forcing head backwards and left.This might refute your version and it is only your version because I have never seen such a large collection of half-baked falsities as you have come up with,entertaining though it is.I have laughed a lot so for that I thank you.
adrianberry4 6 months ago
@adrianberry4 "large collection of half-baked falsities as you have come up with"
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All my knowledge is commonly known on non-conspiracy web sites, this proves that you have never looked at this case from any other viewpoint, besides from kooky conspiracists, who get their education from a cornflakes packet
You need to look at the WHOLE story, it may surprise you
How could the government be so efficient at creating then concealing it for 50years, when they continually get everything else wrong?
ProtectAus 6 months ago
Witnesses do NOT all say that they saw Tippet. There are accounts of 2 men; neither of which fit Oswald's description.
The most elementary part of this is the EXIT wound...
The evidence you present about "every doctor at Parkland" actually disproves your whole analysis. What they are is referring to is the grapefruit-sized chunk of the rear of his head that was blown away. Exit wounds tend to be much larger than entry-wounds. His was cut away from his head, postmortem, forming a crude "V".
mockingbird187 6 months ago
@mockingbird187 "There are accounts of 2 men; neither of which fit Oswald's description."
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There is ONE witness clements that says that there was 2 shooters, there was 12 (Callaway, Davis, Davis, Reynolds, Patterson, Russell, Lewis, Brock Markham, Scoggins, Benavides, Tatum) that said it was Oswald and positively identified him, please do some research and you won't look so stupid.
And regarding the Parkland Doctors, they were shown the Autopsy Photos and ALL agreed that they were authentic!
ProtectAus 6 months ago
@ProtectAus Regarding Tippet, my point is that it wasn't total consensus. Anyway, I believe the doctors say it all; The Men Who Killed Kennedy "The Witnesses" EPISODE 5.
Even the House Select Committee on Assassinations came to the conclusion that it was much more likely than not, that there was more than one shooter, therefore, a conspiracy. Had they let Colby continue as Director of CIA, chances are a LOT more would have come out...however Bush Sr. knew how to shut things down
mockingbird187 6 months ago
@mockingbird187 "Even the House Select Committee on Assassinations came to the conclusion"
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Based on the Audio evidence from an open microphone on a policebike they claimed 4 shots in 1979. It has been thoroughly debunked, the bikes are 3 wheelers, the sirens do not coincide with them racing to Parkland, A voice can be heard and is verified to be a few minutes later.
BTW The HSCA proved by analysing all the evidence that Oswald shot JFK and Tippit and they TRIED real hard to find ANY Conspiracy
ProtectAus 6 months ago
Check out what Tom Wilson has to say .... youtube.com/watch?v=hfU9tqbA_hY
New987user 6 months ago
the were two shooters ... Lone Nut and Bust a Nut ... so this proves a consiracy by debunking that there was only one shooter
New987user 6 months ago
@New987user "so this proves a consiracy by debunking that there was only one shooter"
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All the forensic evidence shows that JFK was hit twice and Connally was hit once, only from behind and above.
Therefore Oswald was the ONLY sniper.
But when i made this video, i had a mistaken belief that Oswald had outside help, after 1000s of hours of research, my new conclusion is Oswald acted alone.
His luck at getting the TSBD job and being rejected by 4 others in the month of October, proves it!
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ProtectAus 6 months ago
@ProtectAus ... I was joking ... apparantly you didn't catch the double meaning behind bust a nut.
New987user 6 months ago
@ProtectAus Really have you heard of James Files?
adrianberry4 6 months ago
@adrianberry4 "have you heard of James Files?"
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He has so many holes in his stories that NO modern researcher even mentions this anymore, obviously you are just some Dumbfuck that just believes anything they hear. LMAO LOL HaHaHa etc.
ProtectAus 6 months ago
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writingstoner 6 months ago
@writingstoner "A melon isn't a head."
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My objective was to show that a light bullet will move a heavy object a small amount. And any bullet hitting JFK from the front would not have the effect as shown in the Zapruder film.
A bullet weighing 8grams travelling at1000mph penetrating an average head of 4-5000grams will move it about an inch or two, simple physics!
BTW i refrained from using REAL WW2 head shot footage, but i found the melon footage showed the exact same effect, tastefully.
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ProtectAus 6 months ago
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LiquorWreckedEmGood 7 months ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood "let's count the bullets"
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Did "they" employ the invisible "Keystone Kops" to shoot JFK, these elusive professionals shot signs and grass and curbs, how could these professionals be such lousy shots.
96% of dealey plaza, heard shots from ONE direction
66% heard them from the TSBD
74% heard ONLY 3 shots
The only bullets recovered were from Oswalds rifle.
The Autopsy photos and xrays indicate TWO shots.
The Autopsy photos and xrays are proven authentic by experts
ProtectAus 7 months ago
@ProtectAus
can't count can you.
1. kennedy - ENTRANCE WOUND in the throat (proof enough of a second shooter).
2. connally - hit in the LEFT SIDE OF BACK when facing straight ahead FOLLOWING shot #1 (watch ANY zapruder video). this bullet found on hospital gurney according to fbi.
3. kennedy - hit in the head (even you couldn't miss THAT one).
4. THE BULLET DOCTORS SAY IN THE VIDEO I PROVIDED YOU THAT WAS STILL LEFT IN CONNALLY'S LEG AFTER SURGERY TO HIS LUNG WOUND WAS PERFORMED.
1-2-3-4.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 7 months ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood "can't count can you"
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3 Bullets!
1st Bullet missed
2nd Bullet hits JFK in his upper back, goes through soft tissue starts to tumble on exit, Connallys back wound is NOT round but elongated and jagged, Then SIDE-ON the bullet smashes through Connallys torso, the doctors say, lucky the bullet slowed down or Connally would be dead, The bullet then breaks connallys wrist, a FULL powered bullet would have ripped his hand off.
3rd Bullet explodes and fragments do damage to Limo.
ProtectAus 7 months ago
@ProtectAus
LHO was certainly a PART of the conspiracy. those obviously weren't curtain rods he was transporting to work that day. but there is no evidence that he shot anybody. not even tippit. oswald was set up from the beginning and played for a fool.
witness standing on curb at entrance to underpass was hit with a bullet fragment or piece of curb at the precise time of the assassination. cut his cheek. bullet mark found on curb right where he was standing. SHOT #5.
oops again.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 7 months ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood "oswald was set up from the beginning and played for a fool."
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Are you sure? Oswald was above average intelligence, Alone on the strength of his political beliefs went to Russia and adapted quickly and learned russian skillfully. He manipulated the Russian govt to allow him to stay, He set up his Cuba committee with fake ID that he made.
Knowing that JFK was going by his building, Oswald bought his rifle and gave it to the real sniper? Even you wouldn't be so stupid! LOL
ProtectAus 7 months ago
@ProtectAus
why don't you detail why anybody should buy the magic bullet theory. that a single bullet went thru kennedy's neck (from ABOVE, angling down, hitting 5" BELOW his throat in the back and supposedly exiting from his throat (already impossible) THEN maneuvering to the left to strike connally's left back near armpit, breaking several ribs, exiting thru chest, breaking his wrist AND THEN FOUND IN A NEAR PRISTINE STATE ON CONNELLY'S HOSPITAL GURNEY.
no. that did not happen. sorry pal.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 7 months ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood "why don't you detail why anybody should buy the magic bullet theory."
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Next to "back and to the left", the SBT is the least understood, my video watch?v=HPbFTmckQSE makes it very clear that it is the only possible outcome.
Connallys back wound was OVAL the bullet was deflected inflight by JFKs neck, what else?
At 1.27 i show the severely flattened ce399.
At 1.58 i show how they were seated
At 2.16 i show them BOTH reacting
At 2.55 i show the downward path of CE399
NICE!!
ProtectAus 7 months ago
@ProtectAus
THAT'S the best you got?
guess what?
YOU LOSE!!!
BWAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAA.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 7 months ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood "THAT'S the best you got?"
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I eagerly await your Debunking video!
BTW No real Doctor after examing the Autopsy Evidence has ever disagreed with the Single Bullet Fact!
But crackpot nobodys Know better?
Sorry Buddy, Facts are the real winner here.
ProtectAus 7 months ago
@ProtectAus Dealey Plaza is a massive echo chamber, and few people in 1963 at the time would be able to discern the directions from which shots came.
HolaDeco 7 months ago
@ProtectAus Interesting figures.Quoting random numbers don't constitute fact.Most of the witnesses ran towards the Grassy Knoll.But then you know that don't you?
adrianberry4 6 months ago
@adrianberry4 "Most of the witnesses ran towards the Grassy Knoll"
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Most witnesses were running to where JFK was shot, some ran up the Knoll MINUTES later, This running up the Knoll chasing gunmen is just Bullshit
Look at Mary Moormans Photo there are THREE men standing on the stairs leading up to the Knoll, just a few yards away from any shooter, They ALL say NO shots came from the Knoll, these are by FAR the best witnesses, but are always ignored by conspiracists.
ProtectAus 6 months ago
@ProtectAus I must be honest you really are an expert liar.Great comedy
adrianberry4 6 months ago
@adrianberry4 "I must be honest you really are an expert"
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Yeah, ive studied JFK for a long time and i was once a smart arse cretin like you, then i read the HSCA report and the intellectual detail within, shits on Groden, White, Fetzer and etc etc
Why have any frontal shooter if you are setting up Oswald from behind???
Mary Moorman took a photo of the Knoll at the EXACT time of the headshot, and there is NO smoke and NO sniper, the guys on the steps in front of the Knoll said the TSBD!
ProtectAus 6 months ago
oh! i get it now. you still think LHO was the lone shooter!
wow! i had no idea there were any of you clueless morons left!
let me give you a FAR more likely scenario than the warren report: LHO was a conspirator, provided a gun, had his lunch on 2nd floor during the shooting for alibi, was picked up by station wagon after shooting (multiple witnesses) and driven home. same car or another car drives him to TT told to wait. guy shoots tippit with LHO gun and meets LHO - hands him gun. calls cops
LiquorWreckedEmGood 7 months ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood "had his lunch on 2nd floor during the shooting for alibi"
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You're a comic genius!
Let me get this right, the conspirators wanted Oswald seen on the 2nd floor, even though they went to the trouble of planting Oswalds prints, and 3 shells and shirt fibers, and blanket fibers on the rifle and snipers nest on the SIXTH FLOOR!
Brennan saw Oswald with a rifle in the Snipers Nest window and supplied a VERY accurate description within minutes.
Oswald was guilty of 2 murders!
ProtectAus 7 months ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood "you still think LHO was the lone shooter"
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Then you proceed with the most irrational, illogical fairy tale ever.
Oswald had a UNIQUE bus transfer ticket and Bledsoe actually knew Oswald on the bus, Wagon story is someone else.
"meets LHO - hands him gun. calls cops" You don't really believe that, do you?
Your little scenario is really fucked up, and contrary to ALL the known evidence, I'm sorry but your fiction is getting pretty tedious, time for you to fuck off!
ProtectAus 7 months ago
Also, Oswald's cheek was tested for powder burn from the rifle...there was none!
HolaDeco 7 months ago
@HolaDeco "tested for powder burn from the rifle"
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A paraffin test was applied to Oswald's hands and right cheek, paraffin tests by the FBI with Oswalds rifle produced many negatives as well, The Carcano is a sealed rifle and an insignificant amount of nitrates are deposited on the body, The negative result is predictable and really means nothing.
ProtectAus 7 months ago
Oswald didn't kill Kennedy. You neglect to mention that he called out, 'I'm just a patsy'. There was a .222 bullet casing dug up with teeth marks just behind the stockade fence atop the grassy knoll as well.
HolaDeco 7 months ago
@HolaDeco "'You neglect to mention that he called out, 'I'm just a patsy'"
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You fail to say what immediately preceded his "patsy" comment, that the "Dallas Police arrested Oswald for living in Russia", therefore Oswald was being arrested for being a communist, this is his patsy meaning and he said it only once.
BTW JFK was shot only from behind, twice, the xrays and autopsy photos verify this.
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ProtectAus 7 months ago
@ProtectAus and you believe those photos, all that 'evidence'? You do realise that the bullet wound in JFK's back was moved for the sake of the report - altering of evidence, which is a federal crime in almost every country.
HolaDeco 7 months ago
@HolaDeco "You do realise that the bullet wound in JFK's back was moved"
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How do you move a back wound? There is authentic photo's which match perfectly with the Autopsy description of "14cm below the tip of the Mastoid process" which is what the Warren commision worked with.
Ford said ''My changes were only an attempt to be more precise.''
Originally the rough draft said the bullet entered his back, which isn't very specific is it? so he added "back of his neck" which is exactly right.
ProtectAus 7 months ago
@ProtectAus He lived in Russia because he was sent there by the government.He learned Russian at Monterrey.You only do that for Intelligence work.
adrianberry4 6 months ago
let's see YOUR video testimony then.
I'VE got a cat working at the theater who places LHO in that theater lobby between 1:00pm and 1:07pm.
and we KNOW that LHO was arrested in that same theater minutes later.
all of these others who say they saw a man who RESEMBLED LHO doing this or that can easily be mistaken. we'll never know WHO they actually saw.
my guy saw LHO and that's a fact.
don't rely on "official" statements: RFK Assassination: The Girl In The Polka Dot Dress (Part 3 of 3)
LiquorWreckedEmGood 7 months ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood "let's see YOUR video testimony then."
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Johnny Brewer watch?v=VrN0VkJUxas who actually had the Police phoned up after he saw Oswald close up, from 10feet away, says that it was AFTER 1:15 and positively picked Oswald out of the Audience of the Texas Theater.
Earlene Roberts watch?v=VK2iwspOKSo who was living with Oswald said Oswald came into her boarding house after 1pm.
I think Roberts who actually knew Oswald easily debunks Butch who only saw Oswald sneak in.
Keep Trying
ProtectAus 7 months ago
@ProtectAus
roberts "EASILY debunks" butch??? really? after 1pm could be 1:01 or 1:02. leaves 5 or 6 minutes to get to the theater.
brewer contradicts butch. so your conclusion is that BREWER is correct and butch is mistaken????
idiot.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 7 months ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood "5 or 6 minutes to get to the theater"
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Did he FLY?, it was over 2 miles and there were NO buses and NO taxis and Oswald didn't drive?
Roberts says he was at the boarding house for 3-4 minutes, then she said he waited at the bus stop outside! Allowing for your compression of times to suit your bizarre argument then leaves him with 2-3 minutes to make it, by Butch's exact 1:07.
Brewer matched Tippits Killers description on the radio, therefore it must be way after 1:15
ProtectAus 7 months ago
@ProtectAus
there were no taxis???? ROTFLMFAO.
could he not have been TAKEN to the theater by someone? of COURSE he could have.
how OLD was mrs roberts? 106?
Butch was standing behind the concession stand IN THE THEATER LOBBY and SAW LHO enter between 1pm and 1:07pm.
YOUR specious "witness" Brewer claimed the man "matched the description on the radio" when in fact he didn't fit the description AT ALL!!!
did you even watch the video I provided?
LiquorWreckedEmGood 7 months ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood "how OLD was mrs roberts? 106?"
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The fact that you are sticking to your incredibly shaky witness who looks to be as old as Mrs Roberts is ironic.
Brewer was reacting to Tippits Killers Description being given on the radio. So it had to be after 1:15pm, how fucking stupid are you?
Brewer was asked to id Oswald in TT, NOT Butch!
Brewers description matched what Oswald was wearing, there is stacks of Oswald Arrest Photos, and you think Brewer gave a false ID? Are you blind???
ProtectAus 7 months ago
@ProtectAus
the video i provided you clearly shows brewer to be wrong on every single point in the broadcast description. why on earth would you assume him to be correct about the time he saw LHO in his store?
both butch and brewer were asked to id LHO. both were with police at the time of arrest. butch didn't get the description 100% wrong. brewer did.
brewer's description matched what LHO was wearing? so what? the point is he said LHO matched the description. he clearly didn't. ur logicsux
LiquorWreckedEmGood 7 months ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood "butch didn't get the description 100% wrong"
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Brewer Identified Oswald, at 1:15. And Brewer then positively identified the SAME man in the theater.
Case Closed!
ProtectAus 7 months ago