Dan, I am not trying to be rude or mean but the Amiga was an ENTIRE experience that combined both hardware and software as a revolutionary experience. Trying to sell JUST the Amiga OS is futile in my opinion. There is NOTHING new you are showing here. No one cares if it uses a different coding technique to display the same SHIT that is displayed in every other operating system out there. When I had my Amiga 2000 it was an ENTIRELY different experience. EVERY one of my friends was jealous.
Well Amiga golden time will not come back, but yes, it now uses different CPU arhitecture (PowerPC) and much improved OS. Its good to have different flavours, and AmigaOS 4 is small footprint completely user controled OS with great multitasking. On the road to AmigaOS 5.
@mlopinto2k1 Well, let's back up a minute here. Modern PC architecture owes a considerable amount to the Amiga. What are GPUs if not modern equivalents of the Copper and Blitter? Modern high-end audio cards use the same DMA-based methods as Paula. Believe me there are enough potential users to make AmigaOS viable as a hobbyist platform at the very least.
@turricaned You are absolutely correct. There is an inherent problem with this thinking though. I understand all of what we use now was or is in some form from the past but Amiga redefined the line-up of what was available. This also stems off of that commodore/amiga AIO unit being sold that uses Intel's mobile chip. I want to see something new. Something created. Something that will make me go ooooo... ahhhhhh.
@mlopinto2k1 The thing is that what Amiga did in 1985 was give you near-workstation level results at a home (or at least business) micro price - that was the *wow* factor. These days there's not really any such thing as a workstation in terms of hardware - everyone's using x86-derived stuff, so all there is really left to compete on is the user-friendliness and compact design ethos of the software. Niche stuff for sure, but still worth doing.
@mlopinto2k1 But what made the Amiga special compared to the competition? IMO the answer is that it was designed by a company who cared about it from top to bottom. Both the Mac and PC were originally orphan projects - IBM saw micros as a fad, and Jobs backed the Mac only after the spectacular bomb that was Lisa. Windows was just a graphical shell for pushing MS Office. Unsurprisingly a lot of the momentum was lost when CBM made some bad calls...
@turricaned But the underpinnings of the AmigaOS *design* still stand head-and-shoulders above the competition in some respects. Amiga Inc. weren't doing the impossible period, they were doing the impossible *on a micro in that price bracket* - in terms of economy of operation, it has the potential to be streets ahead still.
I've got this drawer here with icons in it and I can tell it which icons are which so when you open drawers, icons will be assigned to specific icons and when you double click the disk icon, it's super fast and responsive, even faster than windows which is 10x more powerful... that concludes our showcase of Amiga OS 4
Structure (including drawers of OS, components), user control, recognition of files by file types not by file extension, fast boot and low resource use etc. etc. Try Wikipedia article on AmigaOS for beginning
@rasvoja I already read a part on wiki, I was being sarcastic, thanks anyway,but I would like to know, can it run MS document files and browse on the internet without missing stuff, for example flash player, and how is Amiga still existing?
MS Word document files: 2003 versions and such, yes with proper apps installed
2007 / 2010 format: just Word files for now, again with proper app
These things will be resolved when OpenOffice port is complete, which is slowly progressing.
Web browsing: There is HTML5 web browser OWB that renders pages properly, but Flash support is at offline level (Gnash). Simply Macromedia, doesn`t allow or do OS4 port. Soon there will be Firefox for Amiga called Timberwolf (alpha version now)
@rasvoja So you are saying that all it needs is more time for these developers to develop a good internet browser, but why it wasn't complete from before, I mean the OS4 requires a great amount of work to do, but they neglected the internet browser which is far more simpler?
There are browsers for Amigas for long time ago, but for some time they didn`t catch up with all the web updates (sadly) and only this year company that makes OS (Hyperion) decided to make right choice and port Firefox 4 (Amiga name is Timberwolf). What seems granted for Linux and Windows by companies, isn`t always that easy to do, especially that even for them its mostly done by other companies. Here, number of software publishers became rather limited since mass Amiga demise in 1994
Company "Commodore" went bankroupt and Amiga patents started changing owners that mostly did promises and no products. Amiga users were demanding new machines, new OSs dissapointed and turning to Macs and PCs (unwillingly but no choice).With only minor tweaks up to 2000, development of OS 4 continued as late as 2002, to be done in 2006, plagued by more court cases, to be cleared and freed on Sept 2009 Rocky road. Good history web site is amigahistory co uk
Jay Minor and the boys gave Commodore a computer system good enough to take on the world and win. The Amiga was always streets ahead of any comparable PC and Mac. But the gibbons at Commodore didn't know what to do with it or how to market it properly. Such a shame.
Why does Amiga still exists I mean what is it really used for, Windows is used by home users , Macs are used for much more than home use, while Amiga is used for what?
Good news for Amiga fans! A new REAL Commodore Amiga is in the works and will be available soon. Why settle for a wanna-be-Amiga by some fly by night operation when you can have the real thing from Commodore? For more info just visit commodoreusa d o t net!
Massive respect to all the hardcore Amiga folk who have kept it alive. I'm so chuffed to see a slick new OS true to its roots. Chuckling because my first HD in 1990 was 85MB, yes meg - what's that an album nowadays!
Nice rig. What's the processor speed? The interface is nice and snappy.
Man, I sure miss using AmigaDOS. What 's shown here reminds me of AmigaOS 3.x and my old A4000 (just amped up on steroids).
Amiga shell really is super nice to use. MS really made a mistake on trying to kill DOS out of Windows. Everyone could use a powerful shell from time to time. :]
There are many companies that can supply you with an Amiga computer with OS4.1 worldwide. Go and visit amigaos (dot) net and click the hardware icon for a small selection. Alternatively visit amigakit (dot) com.
This is a really impressive video, but I doubt AmigaOS will become popular simply by fan support alone.
Unless someone comes out with marketable hardware, as in a notebook, gaming device or tablet, that really shows off Amiga's advantages, it will never go mass market.
In a netbook, for example, this could be a good replacement for ChromeOS. With so many offline applications going online, now is probably the best time for a hardware manufacturer to plan a comeback.
Nice, if repaired it wold make a historical model. Go see original Amiga presentation (of X1000) with Blondie and a famous artist drawing her in Dpaint, music presentation, XT soft emulation ... When I remember how IBM PC performed at those XT days, it was a revolution. Today, we have the OS alive and kicking!
@JasperAbraxxious one thing I'm very curious to know though... Is the X1000 a real thing? The videos on their site seem interesting but there's almost a level of cheapness in a couple of them coupled with people paying for beta systems (according to a youtuber) and not being contacted back that makes me wonder if the system really exists
if you want a modern amiga, but you're not fussed about brand, go for a MorphOS setup. It's miles ahead and far cheaper. AmigaOS 4 still doesn't do usb 2.
@JasperAbraxxious I'm really keen to get an Amiga One after seeing your videos. Seeing how not alot has changed since Amiga OS 2 in terms of overall concepts and snappy response, it will definitely nice to return and get the hobby back to the inner geek...
@JasperAbraxxious I recall the original Amiga one specs as having zorro on it. Obviously that's not the case in reality. Maybe Amiga Anywhere was the *nixy platform I was thinking of.
On the Video game collector perspective, the new Amiga do not offer much much really. Most people, except if they are all wrong, tell me that to play game on the New Amiga, you must download them, there is no Amiga OS Physical Game
What this means (apologies for trolling) is if you were to remove the GUI from Unix and have a text-only four colour screen (like lots of Unix boxes still do), you would Still have a more sophisticated, powerful, mature, viable OS than this. This is why I object when people refer to the GUI as the OS. It also explains why loading times are so fast... there's not a lot to load, and it explains why AmigaOS, again, will suit enthusiasts, not professionals, except Amiga fans out to prove something.
What the AmigaOS had *from inception* that no other OS has ever had is that the GUI and CLI are in perfect sync *at all times*. Even modern MacOS, Windows and Linux take some time for the GUI to catch up with what's being done in the CLI. Don't get me wrong - mainstream OS's have caught up in a lot of respects, but there are still aspects of AmigaOS that are unique and special more than 25 years after release.
@vapourmile I'm pretty sure that Workbench had far more to it than basic file management. It certainly had all the utilities you'd find present on other GUIs of the day - plus pre-emptive multitasking, which was unique for the time (left Amiga key-N and M flipped you between the apps you had open).
Strictly, even applications can't 'see' the OS (if it's properly written with memory protection that is) since even they only talk to the OS via a messaging system. The OS itself can't be seen.
So, what can happen is a very nice GUI, such as this one, becomes the front-end to a relatively simple OS. Compare Unix: Unix XWindows is not lovely to use, but the Unix OS behind it is Very sophisticated.
@vapourmile AmigaOS is not simple. It's actually pretty complicated.
You should know, since you owned two your dad bought you before commodore bankruptcy as a child while working with a team of CGI professionals when the PC was the superior graphics platform. (have I got all your back-stories on the BBC micro live video there, or did I miss one?)
I found this a most agreeable presentation. Intelligent, persuasive, interesting, calm. I do have a small complaint: Like most people, when the presenter speaks of the Operating System, few if any of the comments refer to the OS, they pretty much all refer to the User Interface, which is an entirely different thing. Understandably though the UI is medium through which the OS peeps through to the user. The OS proper though is only really used by applications programs.
however microsoft did diminished them in the 90s and they cease exist for decade until 2007. it doesn't matter how much you hate m$ and x86 because even newer mac os now is heading to x86 system and have quite similar NT kernel architecture that share with windows7.it doesn't matter if you hate m$ it won't change the fact x86 is overtaking the business and unix/powerpc/cisc are dying today.
@Edge0fPain Nope, amigas ran a completely different hardware profile than current pcs run. Because they maintained lisencing, it was never duplicated. Current tech attempts to emulate with the advent if GPU and audio chipsets, but not the same. Even your most powerful gaming comp is still built off an inferior 80s system. I recommend looking up amiga pc comparisions. As for the mention of res swapping, that was something from the 80s too. Though I used mine on TV as well :p
I sometimes play with this, emulated on my PC of course. I had an Amiga a while back, took two floppies to boot ;), shame they don't update and release this OS for x86 architecture, it would be great.
Not yet. Closest to it is I think QEMU, but It can`t emulate proper BIOS called U-Boot. Most perfect PPC to x86 emulator is ROSETTA STONE in MacOS X but Apple just won`t give it away ...
For the good old feeling check AmigaOS 4 intution video, and then OS 4.1 and OS 4.1 update1 and update 2 videos for eyecandies introduced (alpha channel etc.)
like the mac??? drop down menus from the top???? what the fuck Amiga add thats tipe of menus before mac did... omg... inform yourself before telling chit!!
I really like the idea of data types, where you install a driver for a file type and then any application can then use that type of file (assuming it's an appropriate application). There are lots of good reasons to use it, but the one thing I would worry about is the web, youtube and such. I know you aren't the org creator of this video, but do you know how quick/slow Java script is? Does youtube work? How compatible is that web browser?
What hardware are you running it on? Do you think Amiga still has a chance to get out of the "hobbyist" status it currently has? I don't know if it can challenge the PC and Mac but i would like to see amiga, or atleast the OS make a mark.
@steveski74 - Noperz, Amiga OS 4 is a custom os from the ground up, not based on anything. And no, no Zorro slots in the Amiga One. Old cards etc are not supported.
This might of been nice in the 90's but it's looking pretty cluttery and crappy by today's standards. I bet having 64meg of ram is fun for you, and wow what a strong argument with the ram drive lol who needs that these days. Any computer can play a DVD or run some poor mans word/excel software, did I hear you correctly talking bout a FTP client? wow I bet that's really hard. I mean seriously the whole argument of the OS is fading, it all comes down to what software can run period. Move on.
I'm with you. Had an Atari 1040 ST w/1meg RAM, supported 512 colors, icon/mouse driven. Went with Atari, had built-in midi. It was fast, almost never locked up that I can remember. The virtual RAM was great, could be almost any size. Used to do art work on it and was fast could switch back and forth between two different drawing programs in a flash while working on a piece. I miss Degas Elite drawing program it was simple I've never found anything as simple and as functional for PC or Mac.
Amiga from the 1980's had great graphics, but I didn't know the OS was still being sold. Under eCS 1.0 you can run programs designed for the Amiga, Commodore 64, and other older computers. I like the way that is set up and looks great. It probably don't crash like Windows, or is a memory hog like Windows.
Amiga! thats a computer, miss Joe Miner, though I didn't live in that Era by watching the old videos you simply know those Amiga guys was brilian at he golden days of computers
AMIGA GRAPHICS ARE SUPERIOR, pcs took over other superior concepts of hardware as Amiga and Atari, pcs didn't got graphics or sound that until the multimedia concept, and it was a mess you had to pin many cards to have lower solutions in graphics and audio, it became the standard because it was the most implemented in offices, at that time hardware was very expensive so only companies could afford it. Imagine if AMIGA had EVOLVED!! xD
As a kid I had a C64. After that I had Amigas - 500, 2000, 4000. I mostly used them for games and made my 1st steps on music production with these machines - loved'em. Time passed, I became a graphic designer with some sound production knowledge. I still play games when I have spare time.
How can this new "Amiga" OS can help me with Adobe CS, Ableton Live and DirectX/OpenGL games? How about many other apps? Acrobat, Excel, Word? I fear to ask about drivers.
@razielish Sadly, the only way is for enough users to start using this and make it profitable for developers to write versions of these apps (or equivalents) for AMIGA OS. Until then, it'll be a tough battle. One strategy is to -- somehow -- find a way to have AMIGA OS support all Windows drivers and runs the top apps reliably. There are just too many people that need to run the programs they have -- especially in the interim.
@nebby6 i think what would crack it is if Amiga was especially good at one thing that everybody wants that other machines won't address properly. .. something to do with corporate servility .. ie. cracking movies or internet annonymity ..
.. uumm .. but i'm arse-talking .. i have no idea really.
I admire people who stick to the Amiga, but is the lack of software and raw hardware power worth it? Nothing shown there couldn't be done on Linux or OS X both of which can run on much more powerful hardware.
Anything I can do with a regular computer? So, how about an office app where I can work with spreadsheets and text documents? There is one, right? And a decent image processing app, as well as something for vector graphics? Video editing? You know, everyday stuff, apps I can create something in, rather than just watch or listen to content provided by someone?
It's great to see the Amiga brand again for old times' sake but I don't see a point to it. It's nice in itself, but what software is really going to run on it? Is it going to replace Linux? No. Is it as sophisticated as OSX? Doesn't look like it. I dunno, I just don't see it's raison d'être. If all I ever wanted to do was shunt files around and use IRC then sure but I want to run Photoshop, a totally compatible word processor, Logic or Pro Tools, games etc. It doesn't seem like a viable OS.
@FloatingOnAZephyr To be honest, this perspective is always the one you'll arrive at when looking at the Amiga from a PC or Mac perspective. It's great for people who just like to tinker, but for getting results you can actually use it has always looked poor compared to the alternatives.
all thats new is python, Arex, the data types, auto complete, drag & drop in the terminal, PDF support included, the web browsers are probably easier to use than those used under 3.1, DVD support, Most anything to do with the internet is probably new, Amidock, Amiupdate.
Why do primarily use Windows, but emulate Amiga Workbench 3.1? because it was ALWAYS good.
nice run down. it seems it's really possible to use the Amiga as a main machine today but I have some doubts about word & excel computability, does it support open office? that would be a great way to do it.
There's one thing Windows can still learn from the Amiga and that's different sized icons. Ironically it looks like OS4 has opted for uniform sized icons. OS4 to me looks a lot like Linux running KDE.
Funny watching this vid and then seeing in the comments people arguing about a "Linux desktop" v Amiga or Windows or whatever when Linux is a kernel...
You could be using a GNOME or KDE SC desktop for example and depending on who's computer it is, it might have Linux or Solaris or BSD under the bonnet...
I remember the Amiga from Commodore which was a great machine back in the 1980's. I didn't know that it was still alive. Sort of like OS/2 through eComstation. It looks good and I wish it would run on a PC.
One of the things that really frustrates me about Windows (I use Vista and XP) is how long it takes to open things like calculator and Word when I haven't used them very recently.
@SMGrawks I've never used Amiga (never had one... I have had a Commodore 64C :D) But I don't like Microsoft too. So I use Linux and I'am happy :-) Cheers!
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djrikki2008 1 month ago
It's very close to Mac OS 9
dennys82 2 months ago
@dennys82 If the Trashcan works, it's already better than MacOS 9. ;) :P
turricaned 2 weeks ago
Dan, I am not trying to be rude or mean but the Amiga was an ENTIRE experience that combined both hardware and software as a revolutionary experience. Trying to sell JUST the Amiga OS is futile in my opinion. There is NOTHING new you are showing here. No one cares if it uses a different coding technique to display the same SHIT that is displayed in every other operating system out there. When I had my Amiga 2000 it was an ENTIRELY different experience. EVERY one of my friends was jealous.
mlopinto2k1 3 months ago
@mlopinto2k1
Well Amiga golden time will not come back, but yes, it now uses different CPU arhitecture (PowerPC) and much improved OS. Its good to have different flavours, and AmigaOS 4 is small footprint completely user controled OS with great multitasking. On the road to AmigaOS 5.
rasvoja 2 months ago
@mlopinto2k1 Well, let's back up a minute here. Modern PC architecture owes a considerable amount to the Amiga. What are GPUs if not modern equivalents of the Copper and Blitter? Modern high-end audio cards use the same DMA-based methods as Paula. Believe me there are enough potential users to make AmigaOS viable as a hobbyist platform at the very least.
turricaned 2 weeks ago
@turricaned You are absolutely correct. There is an inherent problem with this thinking though. I understand all of what we use now was or is in some form from the past but Amiga redefined the line-up of what was available. This also stems off of that commodore/amiga AIO unit being sold that uses Intel's mobile chip. I want to see something new. Something created. Something that will make me go ooooo... ahhhhhh.
mlopinto2k1 2 weeks ago
@mlopinto2k1 The thing is that what Amiga did in 1985 was give you near-workstation level results at a home (or at least business) micro price - that was the *wow* factor. These days there's not really any such thing as a workstation in terms of hardware - everyone's using x86-derived stuff, so all there is really left to compete on is the user-friendliness and compact design ethos of the software. Niche stuff for sure, but still worth doing.
turricaned 2 weeks ago
@mlopinto2k1 But what made the Amiga special compared to the competition? IMO the answer is that it was designed by a company who cared about it from top to bottom. Both the Mac and PC were originally orphan projects - IBM saw micros as a fad, and Jobs backed the Mac only after the spectacular bomb that was Lisa. Windows was just a graphical shell for pushing MS Office. Unsurprisingly a lot of the momentum was lost when CBM made some bad calls...
turricaned 2 weeks ago
@turricaned But the underpinnings of the AmigaOS *design* still stand head-and-shoulders above the competition in some respects. Amiga Inc. weren't doing the impossible period, they were doing the impossible *on a micro in that price bracket* - in terms of economy of operation, it has the potential to be streets ahead still.
turricaned 2 weeks ago
I've got this drawer here with icons in it and I can tell it which icons are which so when you open drawers, icons will be assigned to specific icons and when you double click the disk icon, it's super fast and responsive, even faster than windows which is 10x more powerful... that concludes our showcase of Amiga OS 4
mlopinto2k1 3 months ago
Honestly, i'm not impressed. I can do all this stuff plus more on my ArchLinux Machine (KDE).
xmine08 3 months ago
Na,, y'all can keep it. I'll stick with windows and play with linux..Have fun with it
kenfla2 4 months ago
What is the difference between windowsOS and amigaOS? Windows is (operating shit) while amigaOS is (operating system)
MUSTDOS 4 months ago
@MUSTDOS
Structure (including drawers of OS, components), user control, recognition of files by file types not by file extension, fast boot and low resource use etc. etc. Try Wikipedia article on AmigaOS for beginning
rasvoja 2 months ago
@rasvoja I already read a part on wiki, I was being sarcastic, thanks anyway,but I would like to know, can it run MS document files and browse on the internet without missing stuff, for example flash player, and how is Amiga still existing?
MUSTDOS 2 months ago
@MUSTDOS
MS Word document files: 2003 versions and such, yes with proper apps installed
2007 / 2010 format: just Word files for now, again with proper app
These things will be resolved when OpenOffice port is complete, which is slowly progressing.
Web browsing: There is HTML5 web browser OWB that renders pages properly, but Flash support is at offline level (Gnash). Simply Macromedia, doesn`t allow or do OS4 port. Soon there will be Firefox for Amiga called Timberwolf (alpha version now)
rasvoja 2 months ago
@rasvoja So you are saying that all it needs is more time for these developers to develop a good internet browser, but why it wasn't complete from before, I mean the OS4 requires a great amount of work to do, but they neglected the internet browser which is far more simpler?
MUSTDOS 2 months ago
@MUSTDOS
There are browsers for Amigas for long time ago, but for some time they didn`t catch up with all the web updates (sadly) and only this year company that makes OS (Hyperion) decided to make right choice and port Firefox 4 (Amiga name is Timberwolf). What seems granted for Linux and Windows by companies, isn`t always that easy to do, especially that even for them its mostly done by other companies. Here, number of software publishers became rather limited since mass Amiga demise in 1994
rasvoja 2 months ago
@rasvoja Why did it disappear? that OS was great.
MUSTDOS 2 months ago 2
@MUSTDOS
Company "Commodore" went bankroupt and Amiga patents started changing owners that mostly did promises and no products. Amiga users were demanding new machines, new OSs dissapointed and turning to Macs and PCs (unwillingly but no choice).With only minor tweaks up to 2000, development of OS 4 continued as late as 2002, to be done in 2006, plagued by more court cases, to be cleared and freed on Sept 2009 Rocky road. Good history web site is amigahistory co uk
rasvoja 2 months ago
Jay Minor and the boys gave Commodore a computer system good enough to take on the world and win. The Amiga was always streets ahead of any comparable PC and Mac. But the gibbons at Commodore didn't know what to do with it or how to market it properly. Such a shame.
majorfubar69 4 months ago
:) I had an Amiga 500
jvarela965 5 months ago
Why does Amiga still exists I mean what is it really used for, Windows is used by home users , Macs are used for much more than home use, while Amiga is used for what?
MUSTDOS 5 months ago
@MUSTDOS Amiga is used for its awesomeness ;)
markoseppanen1975 5 months ago 3
I heard that Amiga is awesome but anything else for example in work in school other than awesomeness?
MUSTDOS 5 months ago
@MUSTDOS
MUSTDOS 5 months ago
for example can I use it for games, can it read microsoft office files?
MUSTDOS 5 months ago
wait.. amiga? i tought it died in the -80.. :D
Pakenpaken 5 months ago 2
@Pakenpaken
Yes the Commodore company and the hardware, but AmigaOS migrated to PowerPC and continued development (see AmigaOS on Wiki for basic info)
rasvoja 2 months ago
too bad it only works on special powerpc board -_-
zequelll 6 months ago
@zequelll Works on Apple Mac Mini G4s too.
Perkeleeppos 5 months ago
@Perkeleeppos
i thought you needed some special hardware and or a dongle to run this. no?
zequelll 5 months ago
wait a minut, so if i wanna try out amiga os4 here i need a special cpu?
awh man cant i just dual boot it on my pc along with windows, linux, and mac so like quad booting
gta4rulesass 6 months ago
@gta4rulesass
You need a Power PC.
Superfreaxx 5 months ago
this is a shitty os.
Jullzzzz 6 months ago
Is it just like the old days, but "better"?
MindOfCreativity 6 months ago 2
Ah man. So much faster and more efficient than Windows. Perfect for all the work I can't do on this since no one gives a shit to make shit for this.
thatsistheguy 8 months ago 8
@siggisveiti Please check out the links the description :)
amoskodare 8 months ago 5
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MrAmiga1000 9 months ago
is this better hen ubuntu?
Dukenukem155 9 months ago
Lol. This is supposed to give windows a run for its money? It runs only on outdated Motorola and PPC processors! BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
codeythesilent 9 months ago
I would pay 1200 for that right now! so i can stop using windows/
DS1221 9 months ago
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DS1221 9 months ago
Massive respect to all the hardcore Amiga folk who have kept it alive. I'm so chuffed to see a slick new OS true to its roots. Chuckling because my first HD in 1990 was 85MB, yes meg - what's that an album nowadays!
Revival - Renaisance!
musarman 9 months ago 13
@musarman my HD was 20mb all i had was 1 game cuz the game took 15mb of my hd space.
DS1221 9 months ago
I'm getting wood here. I want my Amiga back!!!
NeilRoy65 9 months ago 5
turncoat
Uberdude25 10 months ago
Nice rig. What's the processor speed? The interface is nice and snappy.
Man, I sure miss using AmigaDOS. What 's shown here reminds me of AmigaOS 3.x and my old A4000 (just amped up on steroids).
Amiga shell really is super nice to use. MS really made a mistake on trying to kill DOS out of Windows. Everyone could use a powerful shell from time to time. :]
nebby6 10 months ago 2
@wexenhex
There are many companies that can supply you with an Amiga computer with OS4.1 worldwide. Go and visit amigaos (dot) net and click the hardware icon for a small selection. Alternatively visit amigakit (dot) com.
djrikki2008 10 months ago
where can i buy an Amiga machine with OS4.1 in the US?
wexenhex 10 months ago
@wexenhex
Computer Connection Mr Hardware Computers Revanche LLC The Amiga Man
vojinvidanovic79 10 months ago
linux at top as well
Jaqshit 10 months ago
This is a really impressive video, but I doubt AmigaOS will become popular simply by fan support alone.
Unless someone comes out with marketable hardware, as in a notebook, gaming device or tablet, that really shows off Amiga's advantages, it will never go mass market.
In a netbook, for example, this could be a good replacement for ChromeOS. With so many offline applications going online, now is probably the best time for a hardware manufacturer to plan a comeback.
cantorock 11 months ago
can i install amigaos4.1 on an old mac like i dont know lc? really great video anyway
discomkiv 11 months ago
@discomkiv
Only if its MacMini G4 certain model and without sound and its illegal.
Generally NO, you need AmigaOne or SAM board or Classic Amiga with PPC card
vojinvidanovic79 11 months ago
@vojinvidanovic79 i have my old amiga 1000 but is broken :( but i still have all disks
discomkiv 11 months ago
@discomkiv
Nice, if repaired it wold make a historical model. Go see original Amiga presentation (of X1000) with Blondie and a famous artist drawing her in Dpaint, music presentation, XT soft emulation ... When I remember how IBM PC performed at those XT days, it was a revolution. Today, we have the OS alive and kicking!
vojinvidanovic79 11 months ago 4
How is AmigaOS in comparison with Windows, Apple and Linux?
I hope AmigaOS take over the market in the near future! I'm tired of Windows and all the problems that follow it!!
dagbli 1 year ago
@JasperAbraxxious one thing I'm very curious to know though... Is the X1000 a real thing? The videos on their site seem interesting but there's almost a level of cheapness in a couple of them coupled with people paying for beta systems (according to a youtuber) and not being contacted back that makes me wonder if the system really exists
steveski74 1 year ago
@steveski74 It's real, but it's pretty worthless.
if you want a modern amiga, but you're not fussed about brand, go for a MorphOS setup. It's miles ahead and far cheaper. AmigaOS 4 still doesn't do usb 2.
richardmaudsley77 1 year ago
@JasperAbraxxious I'm really keen to get an Amiga One after seeing your videos. Seeing how not alot has changed since Amiga OS 2 in terms of overall concepts and snappy response, it will definitely nice to return and get the hobby back to the inner geek...
steveski74 1 year ago
@JasperAbraxxious I recall the original Amiga one specs as having zorro on it. Obviously that's not the case in reality. Maybe Amiga Anywhere was the *nixy platform I was thinking of.
steveski74 1 year ago
On the Video game collector perspective, the new Amiga do not offer much much really. Most people, except if they are all wrong, tell me that to play game on the New Amiga, you must download them, there is no Amiga OS Physical Game
SuperDave341 1 year ago
Could that run on my powermac G4 xD?
winfr34k 1 year ago
this is got to be the worse os in the fucking world
Jullzzzz 1 year ago
@kamlim122
No it can't because you need a PowerPC processor. Get an iMac G5 and you're fine.
Dubbzee702 1 year ago
wait wait wait... does Amiga OS would run on my laptop?
Specs:
benq joybook r55e
Intel Celeron M
gfx: Intel GMA 950
sound: Conexant HDA
net: Marvel Yukon
net - wifi: Atheros
hdd: Intel (some names and number) ATA
please reply i want to install that great os
kamilm122 1 year ago
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vapourmile 1 year ago
What this means (apologies for trolling) is if you were to remove the GUI from Unix and have a text-only four colour screen (like lots of Unix boxes still do), you would Still have a more sophisticated, powerful, mature, viable OS than this. This is why I object when people refer to the GUI as the OS. It also explains why loading times are so fast... there's not a lot to load, and it explains why AmigaOS, again, will suit enthusiasts, not professionals, except Amiga fans out to prove something.
vapourmile 1 year ago
@vapourmile
What the AmigaOS had *from inception* that no other OS has ever had is that the GUI and CLI are in perfect sync *at all times*. Even modern MacOS, Windows and Linux take some time for the GUI to catch up with what's being done in the CLI. Don't get me wrong - mainstream OS's have caught up in a lot of respects, but there are still aspects of AmigaOS that are unique and special more than 25 years after release.
turricaned 1 year ago
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vapourmile 1 year ago
@turricaned This is because what you are calling the 'GUI' on the Amiga is what you'd call a 'file manager' on the PC and Mac.
vapourmile 1 year ago
@vapourmile I'm pretty sure that Workbench had far more to it than basic file management. It certainly had all the utilities you'd find present on other GUIs of the day - plus pre-emptive multitasking, which was unique for the time (left Amiga key-N and M flipped you between the apps you had open).
turricaned 1 year ago
Strictly, even applications can't 'see' the OS (if it's properly written with memory protection that is) since even they only talk to the OS via a messaging system. The OS itself can't be seen.
So, what can happen is a very nice GUI, such as this one, becomes the front-end to a relatively simple OS. Compare Unix: Unix XWindows is not lovely to use, but the Unix OS behind it is Very sophisticated.
vapourmile 1 year ago
@vapourmile AmigaOS is not simple. It's actually pretty complicated.
You should know, since you owned two your dad bought you before commodore bankruptcy as a child while working with a team of CGI professionals when the PC was the superior graphics platform. (have I got all your back-stories on the BBC micro live video there, or did I miss one?)
richardmaudsley77 1 year ago
@richardmaudsley77 Not quite... I wasn't child.
vapourmile 1 year ago
I found this a most agreeable presentation. Intelligent, persuasive, interesting, calm. I do have a small complaint: Like most people, when the presenter speaks of the Operating System, few if any of the comments refer to the OS, they pretty much all refer to the User Interface, which is an entirely different thing. Understandably though the UI is medium through which the OS peeps through to the user. The OS proper though is only really used by applications programs.
vapourmile 1 year ago
another company that once knocked off by microsoft is now back on track :)
hanrinch 1 year ago
@hanrinch
On track to what? Gaining 300 users in the next 3 years? So fucking what?
And No, I hate M$, so not defending M$.
cuttock 1 year ago
however microsoft did diminished them in the 90s and they cease exist for decade until 2007. it doesn't matter how much you hate m$ and x86 because even newer mac os now is heading to x86 system and have quite similar NT kernel architecture that share with windows7.it doesn't matter if you hate m$ it won't change the fact x86 is overtaking the business and unix/powerpc/cisc are dying today.
hanrinch 1 year ago
@hanrinch
Where did I say that I hate x86??
cuttock 1 year ago
Why? My question is how! Where do I get it?
dagbli 1 year ago
three letters... WOW
TheNovum 1 year ago 2
Is this operating system free or open source?
Edge0fPain 1 year ago
@Edge0fPain Nope, amigas ran a completely different hardware profile than current pcs run. Because they maintained lisencing, it was never duplicated. Current tech attempts to emulate with the advent if GPU and audio chipsets, but not the same. Even your most powerful gaming comp is still built off an inferior 80s system. I recommend looking up amiga pc comparisions. As for the mention of res swapping, that was something from the 80s too. Though I used mine on TV as well :p
kwkiller 1 year ago
@kwkiller
I don't use Windows very often if that's what your getting at when you said built off an inferior 80s system, but thanks for the informative reply.
Edge0fPain 1 year ago
I sometimes play with this, emulated on my PC of course. I had an Amiga a while back, took two floppies to boot ;), shame they don't update and release this OS for x86 architecture, it would be great.
clarkkov 1 year ago
is it a linux based?
KaxiLaxi 1 year ago
Is there any way to run Amiga OS 4 in a virtual machine?
OOIEatte 1 year ago
@OOIEatte
Not yet. Closest to it is I think QEMU, but It can`t emulate proper BIOS called U-Boot. Most perfect PPC to x86 emulator is ROSETTA STONE in MacOS X but Apple just won`t give it away ...
vojinvidanovic79 1 year ago 2
does it switch between screens as fast as it used to? i.e. different resolution screens instant switching like it used to?
there still isnt a computer around today that will do that, not in an instant anyways.
wesleytarbuck 1 year ago
@wesleytarbuck
For the good old feeling check AmigaOS 4 intution video, and then OS 4.1 and OS 4.1 update1 and update 2 videos for eyecandies introduced (alpha channel etc.)
vojinvidanovic79 1 year ago 3
@wesleytarbuck Slow mode switching is an issue of modern monitors, not exactly computers themselves.
Azarien 1 year ago
Amiga rulez :)
D6Film 1 year ago 12
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This is the very definition of how to flog a dead horse! Please let Amiga os die, ffs!
kalekold 1 year ago
@kalekold
Don`t call it dead, if it`s in development.
Please let Windows die, please! :-))))
vojinvidanovic79 1 year ago 4
@vojinvidanovic79
I don't want Windows die.There are way too many good games running on it.
Windows is heavy,but it already made history.
I doubt developers convert GTA4 for Amiga OS.
:\
I use XP,PC lags on 7.
-.-
baneskrbic 1 year ago
@baneskrbic
Nah, that could be run on Windows, apps on MacOS. People just belive so
since they have been in Windows way too long
vojinvidanovic79 11 months ago
@vojinvidanovic79 I wish windows would die and AmigaOS take its place but unfortunately this is the real world and thats not going to happen.
kalekold 11 months ago 2
@kalekold
Respected! Well we can support AmigaOS growth!
If all people that used Commodore Amiga would return to AmigaOS 4 it could be a major player.
However most of people forgot about it since its long unaviability (2000-2006)
vojinvidanovic79 11 months ago 2
This is the very deffinition of how to flog a dead horse! Please let amiga os die, ffs!
kalekold 1 year ago
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New Amiga on the way in the next 3-4 months. Search Amiga X1000 on google and check out the hardware specs on the beast! Spread the word.
djrikki2008 1 year ago
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New Amiga on the way in the next 3-4 months. Search Amiga X1000 on google and check out the hardware specs on the beast! Spread the word.
djrikki2008 1 year ago
like the mac??? drop down menus from the top???? what the fuck Amiga add thats tipe of menus before mac did... omg... inform yourself before telling chit!!
tommyjones1978 1 year ago 2
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@tommyjones1978
He began his sentence with the words 'somethings have been adopted by other operating systems' lol listen next time
New Amiga on the way in the next 3-4 months. Search Amiga X1000 on google and check out the hardware specs on the beast! Spread the word.
djrikki2008 1 year ago
I really like the idea of data types, where you install a driver for a file type and then any application can then use that type of file (assuming it's an appropriate application). There are lots of good reasons to use it, but the one thing I would worry about is the web, youtube and such. I know you aren't the org creator of this video, but do you know how quick/slow Java script is? Does youtube work? How compatible is that web browser?
christo930 1 year ago
Your camera dont like bright screens :P
JanyPL 1 year ago
What hardware are you running it on? Do you think Amiga still has a chance to get out of the "hobbyist" status it currently has? I don't know if it can challenge the PC and Mac but i would like to see amiga, or atleast the OS make a mark.
b0nes2 1 year ago
Pick your linux distro of choice, it does all this and far more. The answer, don't bother with amiga.
colonforsecs 1 year ago
Wait!? Amiga still exists? MUST GET!!! Fuck Windows, I'll dual boot Linux and Amiga
vargulf19 1 year ago 25
@vargulf19 Try AROS Broadway ;-)
xcomcmdr 1 year ago
@vargulf19 - Lol, sorry mate, does not run on pc hardware, only runs on special Amiga hardware.
JasperAbraxxious 1 year ago
@JasperAbraxxious I do recall the Amiga One just being a *nix implementation. At least that's what I read about 8 years ago. Is that the case?
I understand though that the Amiga One machine does have Zorro ports to support the old expansion cards.
steveski74 1 year ago
@steveski74 - Noperz, Amiga OS 4 is a custom os from the ground up, not based on anything. And no, no Zorro slots in the Amiga One. Old cards etc are not supported.
Hope this helps.
JasperAbraxxious 1 year ago
What about simpel games ?
Xextreem 1 year ago
What hardware is needed to run this? I don't know almost anything about Amiga, is this some Amiga-only hardware or what?
unfa00 1 year ago
Is this running emulated on a pc or on a native amiga?
jij78666 1 year ago
@jij78666 No emulation, this is native AmigaOS 4...
amoskodare 1 year ago
@amoskodare so this is running on a Motorola 68000 family of cpu's..is this an Amiga 4000 ?
xadam2dudex 1 year ago
@xadam2dudex
>so this is running on a Motorola 68000 family of cpu's
No, it's running on a PowerPC CPU.
>..is this an? Amiga 4000 ?
Nope, it's an AmigaOne SE or XE.
amoskodare 1 year ago 5
@xadam2dudex AmigaOS4 is a complete rewrite of the old AmigaOS source code for PowerPC hardware
elwoodfr 1 year ago
Is this running emulated on a pc or on a native amiga?
jij78666 1 year ago
This might of been nice in the 90's but it's looking pretty cluttery and crappy by today's standards. I bet having 64meg of ram is fun for you, and wow what a strong argument with the ram drive lol who needs that these days. Any computer can play a DVD or run some poor mans word/excel software, did I hear you correctly talking bout a FTP client? wow I bet that's really hard. I mean seriously the whole argument of the OS is fading, it all comes down to what software can run period. Move on.
blahmeh242 1 year ago
@blahmeh242
No, it shows you, that the same software runs faster on an 25 Mhz Computer than on a quadcore 2000 Mhz Computer with Windows oder Linux.
GrinderFX 1 year ago
I'm with you. Had an Atari 1040 ST w/1meg RAM, supported 512 colors, icon/mouse driven. Went with Atari, had built-in midi. It was fast, almost never locked up that I can remember. The virtual RAM was great, could be almost any size. Used to do art work on it and was fast could switch back and forth between two different drawing programs in a flash while working on a piece. I miss Degas Elite drawing program it was simple I've never found anything as simple and as functional for PC or Mac.
grandpied 1 year ago
Amiga from the 1980's had great graphics, but I didn't know the OS was still being sold. Under eCS 1.0 you can run programs designed for the Amiga, Commodore 64, and other older computers. I like the way that is set up and looks great. It probably don't crash like Windows, or is a memory hog like Windows.
semco72057 1 year ago
pr0n tasks?!!!
faultyservice 1 year ago
WANT ONE!!
MrEski23 1 year ago
can this OS work on a standard PC ?
wingnut4427 1 year ago
Amiga! thats a computer, miss Joe Miner, though I didn't live in that Era by watching the old videos you simply know those Amiga guys was brilian at he golden days of computers
quakebox 1 year ago
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Amiga forever !!!
Loadingosx 1 year ago
I actually had no idea Amiga was still being developed.. I'm a huge gamer, so I really have to use Windows, but this was pretty interesting to watch.
MisterShodex 1 year ago
i also like how it says 'cut down' at the end
SiurFoix 1 year ago
why does he call it amigra at 3:25?
SiurFoix 1 year ago
Amiga forever !!!
Krogot74 1 year ago
AMIGA GRAPHICS ARE SUPERIOR, pcs took over other superior concepts of hardware as Amiga and Atari, pcs didn't got graphics or sound that until the multimedia concept, and it was a mess you had to pin many cards to have lower solutions in graphics and audio, it became the standard because it was the most implemented in offices, at that time hardware was very expensive so only companies could afford it. Imagine if AMIGA had EVOLVED!! xD
loogares 1 year ago
As a kid I had a C64. After that I had Amigas - 500, 2000, 4000. I mostly used them for games and made my 1st steps on music production with these machines - loved'em. Time passed, I became a graphic designer with some sound production knowledge. I still play games when I have spare time.
How can this new "Amiga" OS can help me with Adobe CS, Ableton Live and DirectX/OpenGL games? How about many other apps? Acrobat, Excel, Word? I fear to ask about drivers.
I'm sorry, but this is a failure...
razielish 1 year ago
@razielish If people are buying it, obviously it's not a failure. Nobody is claiming that this will take over the world
weaselfierce 1 year ago 5
@razielish Sadly, the only way is for enough users to start using this and make it profitable for developers to write versions of these apps (or equivalents) for AMIGA OS. Until then, it'll be a tough battle. One strategy is to -- somehow -- find a way to have AMIGA OS support all Windows drivers and runs the top apps reliably. There are just too many people that need to run the programs they have -- especially in the interim.
nebby6 1 year ago
@nebby6 i think what would crack it is if Amiga was especially good at one thing that everybody wants that other machines won't address properly. .. something to do with corporate servility .. ie. cracking movies or internet annonymity ..
.. uumm .. but i'm arse-talking .. i have no idea really.
mijmijrm 1 year ago
I admire people who stick to the Amiga, but is the lack of software and raw hardware power worth it? Nothing shown there couldn't be done on Linux or OS X both of which can run on much more powerful hardware.
Zoolookuk 1 year ago
Did you really need to record the monitor?
4K4K1K0 1 year ago
fap fap fap fap fap fap...
GegoXaren 1 year ago 3
Probably uses a Linux kernel thogh doesnt it?
CoolDudeClem 1 year ago
@CoolDudeClem no
techguruuk 1 year ago
This destroyed my Poor Windows XP...
eduds6 1 year ago
Anything I can do with a regular computer? So, how about an office app where I can work with spreadsheets and text documents? There is one, right? And a decent image processing app, as well as something for vector graphics? Video editing? You know, everyday stuff, apps I can create something in, rather than just watch or listen to content provided by someone?
Other than that I'd say it's quite impressive : )
mizugawa 1 year ago
Amiga can't run on Intel processors, can it?
alquiora 1 year ago
@alquiora
Amiga aros can, and its free.
robdun 1 year ago
Nice. I think I have to upgrade my OS 3.9 system to 4.0 one of these days. But hardware availability has been huge problem. At least for me...
Dekonega 1 year ago
Virtual memory? I haven't used that for 10 years
macaighann 1 year ago
@macaighann
So you are not using windows then?
Slowpode 1 year ago
It's great to see the Amiga brand again for old times' sake but I don't see a point to it. It's nice in itself, but what software is really going to run on it? Is it going to replace Linux? No. Is it as sophisticated as OSX? Doesn't look like it. I dunno, I just don't see it's raison d'être. If all I ever wanted to do was shunt files around and use IRC then sure but I want to run Photoshop, a totally compatible word processor, Logic or Pro Tools, games etc. It doesn't seem like a viable OS.
FloatingOnAZephyr 1 year ago
@FloatingOnAZephyr To be honest, this perspective is always the one you'll arrive at when looking at the Amiga from a PC or Mac perspective. It's great for people who just like to tinker, but for getting results you can actually use it has always looked poor compared to the alternatives.
vapourmile 1 year ago
all thats new is python, Arex, the data types, auto complete, drag & drop in the terminal, PDF support included, the web browsers are probably easier to use than those used under 3.1, DVD support, Most anything to do with the internet is probably new, Amidock, Amiupdate.
Why do primarily use Windows, but emulate Amiga Workbench 3.1? because it was ALWAYS good.
Amiga Forever!
Killur10 1 year ago
nice run down. it seems it's really possible to use the Amiga as a main machine today but I have some doubts about word & excel computability, does it support open office? that would be a great way to do it.
G3Panthro 1 year ago 4
There is no point to use Amiga OS now days. It's only for enthusiasts. I love Amiga but now this platform is just for fun.
5k18a 1 year ago
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Look, only SUPER NERD WOULD USE THIS crap.
cuttock 1 year ago
You can see the icons rendering, that's not very fast!
fro7k 1 year ago
Are there any websites showing amiga updates? Amigaflame stopped posting about a year ago
averagegilo 1 year ago
There's one thing Windows can still learn from the Amiga and that's different sized icons. Ironically it looks like OS4 has opted for uniform sized icons. OS4 to me looks a lot like Linux running KDE.
vapourmile 1 year ago
Funny watching this vid and then seeing in the comments people arguing about a "Linux desktop" v Amiga or Windows or whatever when Linux is a kernel...
You could be using a GNOME or KDE SC desktop for example and depending on who's computer it is, it might have Linux or Solaris or BSD under the bonnet...
Keruaran 1 year ago
@Keruaran Can't help being amused when someone says "Linux Operating System" either.
Using a Kernel as a whole Operating System? Wish I could do that.
atan0k 1 year ago
I remember the Amiga from Commodore which was a great machine back in the 1980's. I didn't know that it was still alive. Sort of like OS/2 through eComstation. It looks good and I wish it would run on a PC.
semco72057 1 year ago 4
Are there any pre built machines that run Amiga OS?
If not I might just assemble a cheap computer to run Amiga just for the hell of it.
dfr343 1 year ago 3
One of the things that really frustrates me about Windows (I use Vista and XP) is how long it takes to open things like calculator and Word when I haven't used them very recently.
I hate you Bill Gates.
SMGrawks 1 year ago 11
@SMGrawks windows would suck if i had bought it
OfficialDJDSign 1 year ago
@SMGrawks or just plain right clicking for that matter, or browsing the start menu
phalxor 1 year ago
@SMGrawks then u haven't upgraded ur pc for 3years
biplav32 1 year ago
@SMGrawks How long is long?
falkerhard 1 year ago
@SMGrawks yeah opens too fast.
falkerhard 1 year ago
@SMGrawks you might to upgrade your 386 then.
tabamoura 1 year ago
@SMGrawks
not to mention how much mem the most basic thing takes.
Im quite sure its done on purpose to force ppl to buy the latest hardware
Capeau 1 year ago 2
@SMGrawks I've never used Amiga (never had one... I have had a Commodore 64C :D) But I don't like Microsoft too. So I use Linux and I'am happy :-) Cheers!
unfa00 1 year ago