GymnasticBodies.com - Basic Ring Strength 3

[Kzingerr]

dammm! thats impressive. I'm trying to learn how to do that, but it's not quite as easy as this kid makes it look.

[erjcan]

bought the rings , bought the book - now just keep practicing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PFloydTime]

basic strength? lol

[atlasperros]

Peter Parker

[Bob8199]

All of those exercises are extremely difficult, even for people who have been lifting weights for years.

[MAnGaThaBOy]

@Bob8199 lifting weights is for pussy's....you can have great buddy and all, but without push ups and pull ups and lot's of different other exercise's you couldn't do ANYTHING....

[mrv8fusion]

@MAnGaThaBOy um im pretty sure bench press works similar muscles as pushups....bodyweight training is the same as lifting weights but with lighter loads....only difference.

[typhoon535]

@mrv8fusion That's not true at all. Similar doesn't mean the same there are very profound differences between bench and a pushups. Example - Bench you retract and depress your shoulders, pushups you protract (changes the muscles worked around the scapula a lot). Bench you are arch quite a bit and attempt to raise the chest which takes some pressure off the shoulders and engages the lats more, pushups you try to keep a straight body position putting more emphases on the abdominals.

[mattio94]

how old is he??? O.O

[ORTprod]

Coach, please make a basic ring strength 4!

[DougDiug]

love that he just breathes out his nose....not strenuous, its just a warm up....

la-tee-tah

Wonderful exercise.

[gymguy411]

what gym is this?

[r4f43ld4v1d]

hi coach! it is good to warm up with stretching and a light circuit (easy exercises according to my level) or just running on the treadmill?

[coachsommer]

Working with a false grip on the rings does not cause tendonitis. But training too intensely too soon without giving the body adequate time to adapt can. Please see my forum for additional information regarding correctly preparing the elbows for ring strength training.

Yours in Fitness,

Coach Sommer

[southoreast]

Oh, ok. So would you say that I'm better off purchasing your gymnastic package on your website? I'm 26 years old, six feet four with very limited gymnastic experience. However, I'm willing to start from the ground up from a novice to an elite gymnast. Any comments on that? I happen to be very much into calisthenic training presently. I've devoted to calisthenics for almost 8 years now

Anthony.

[GymnasticBodies]

My best advice at this stage would be for you to share these questions on my GB forum with the many other members who have already been in your situation.

Yours in Fitness,

Coach Sommer

[southoreast]

That was a very humbling honest piece of advice you gave. Thank you for takin the time to answer my questions. I will definitely visit your site sir. Have a blessed day.

Anthony

[heianees]

Hi I bought coach Sommer's book in january this year and have been working out according to it since. I'll tell you right now, if you want to do this type of strengt workout your definitely best of buying the book. the dvd's too. I didn't buy those and I'm really regretting it. Will buy them when the new books arrive. I'm 25 and 6,2 so we're kinda in the same situation. Let me just say, what you just saw in this video will probably take MANY years of constant work, if you ever succeed at all...

[milnusthegnome]

hmm, to be honest matey....it's a small mans game

[southoreast]

I disagree with you on that. After a month and a half of following strict gymnastic regimen, I'm ready to find a coach. That's how much improvement I've made. I do have a minimal gymnastic backround so that helps alot. At six feet four, I shock people when i hold strict form handstands for nearly a minute everytime. If you want it bad enough, it's any man's game.

[milnusthegnome]

the smaller the body, the better leverage i think

[southoreast]

I think you mean the smaller the body, the easier it is to perform gymnast routines. If you read Sommer's book, he tells you that the concept behind building strength in gymnastics is to position the body in space where leverage is little to none. The Maltese, iron cross, and planche pushups are great examples of that. Because I've been following this concept, people ask me If i've been lifting weights. I have to train harder, but the end result is me being stronger.

[tag1989]

@southoreast yep i agree size honestly dosent matter people are amazed when they see a big guy like me fly.

[southoreast]

oooookayyyy. Are you sincere about agreeing with me or do I detect a hint of sarcasm and skepticism in your words?

[tag1989]

@southoreast hahahahahaha no i was actually being serious im on ur side :), after reading my comment again i can understand y u felt that way, srry il write better next time LOL hahaha.

[JimmyDeLocke]

@southoreast While it's true that smaller guys have a body lever advantage, big guys have the SWING advantage. Competitively, a bigger gymnast has the opportunity to display more POWER which can really bowl those judges over!

My competitve days, high school and NCAA were '64-'71 and back then there were quite a few big guys to be found in the upper echelons of the gymnastics world.

[RockstahRolln]

@southoreast I TOTALLY agree because the more persistent one is with training, your body adapts due to muscle memory and one can do the impossible! Nice that you can hold a handstand at your build for a minute, that IS impressive!

[snoozefest41]

@southoreast u hold crosses maltese ?

[WeaponX0187]

yeah it is advantageous to small stature people but anyone can do it.

[ShotDownInFlames2]

In a couple years this guy is going to be major league.

[rjampiolo32]

That kid has serious potential

[Berz3rk3r]

Can't fuck with the gymnasts

[medeocracy]

what do i have to do i n order to get the body of a gymnast

[bodyjar18]

... gymnastics? lol

[Aheyne]

ahahahaha

[Raghav91]

lol =D

[bodyjar18]

hey medeocracy, you asked what do you have to do to get a gymnast's body... answered you're own question there mate, take on gymnastics! dosy knob

[nathanevolving]

train... hard

[killahkaii]

im buying myself a pair of rongs for my martial arts club.. would twice a week be enoughf to notice results. i also do alot of other training as well. all martial arts based. . Any tips or ideas you could share with me?

[GymnasticBodies]

I would recommend that you check out my website, it is completely dedicated to teaching gymnastics strength training.

Yours in Fitness,

Coach Sommer

[southoreast]

Hello coach Sommer. I just wanted to know if you coach students in New York and if you do, is it possible for one to register for serious training? I hope t hear from you Coach.

Anthony

[GymnasticBodies]

My full-time students are all located in Arizona. However twice a year I offer the opportunity for other people to come to Arizona to train with me for 3 days in a group setting at my facility. Additional information on the Gymnastic Bodies Seminars is available on my website.

Yours in Fitness,

Coach Sommer

[southoreast]

Hi coach. I've talked to you before. Let me start by saying that I've been following your routines in your book for a month and the results gained within that month has got me searching for a coach for full time devotion. My question to you is: when is your next 3 day training seminar?

Anthony

[GymnasticBodies]

Due to my competitive committments, I am only able to offer training seminars twice per year. My next 3 day training Seminar is scheduled for May 29-31, 2010 in Scottsdale, AZ.

Yours in Fitness,

Coach Sommer

[gettingbuff23]

this fools all nerdy n shit, if u seen him around school u wouldnt know how awesome this guy is! hes my hero!

[slightlyshattered]

@gettingbuff23 Just because he has glasses on?

[temp112358]

i wonder how many usual pull-ups this guy is able to do...

[GymnasticBodies]

To be honest I have no idea. In my program we never perform pull-ups for high repetitions; I always encourage my athletes to progress onward to more difficult variations.

Yours in Fitness,

Coach Sommer

[Ninearm]

If he's a level B on the rings which would be my guess he should be able to do pullups from somewhere around 15-20

[alepeccia]

I absolutely concurr with you, thou I tend to do some high repetition ex for some sessions before switching to the next level at low repetitions. Eg: handstand pushups leaning on a wall (many), then swing pushups to handstand (middle), then balance handstand pushups (still few, unluckily! ;-)).

I saw yer pushups with on the back of the hands for wrists conditioning. I have very weak wrists unluckily and wanna give 'em a chance to start with pommel horse and circles on the floor. Any hints? Thx!

[GymnasticBodies]

My wrist pushups essay, full of training progressions and performance guidelines, is available on my website.

Yours in Fitness,

Coach Sommer

[alepeccia]

Thank you Sommer, I just checked it out.

Have you ever discussed whether conditioning in general is more efficient in the beginning or at the end of the training, or maybe just done thru the whole session? There's gymnasts and/or coaches who prefer to do it right after warm up, others at the end. And strength, every day the same thing?

I'll jump in your website anyway!

Best regards

[omxpablo19]

agreed with swing. Iv done weights and started on body weight exercises. Bodyweightexercises will will make you strong but only to a certain point. During weightlfiting my chest and legs have never felt more powerful.

[trianglechoke7]

Sorry, you couldn't be more wrong. You are probably doing wimpy bodyweight exercises.

[omxpablo19]

im talking about pure power genius, not fitness. You really think a gymnast has a stronger chest than a powerlifter?

And i cut weights out almost completly. I use  all body weight. stop getting so defensive psycho, im not attacking this particular fitness training.

[qbfifthson]

It looks like you're the one getting angry here... chill, we all have our own opinions, yours is different from ours, thats fine, no one is attacking anyone.

[srgymnast1]

gymnasts aren't meant to be huge! just having a high strength:weight ratio is the most important thing in our sport. some people tend to build more muscle than others in gymnastics cuz it all depends on your natural muscle capability/efficiency which varies sooo much from person to person

[soonergymnast1967]

Couldn't agree more... Well said.

[pharry4life]

This guy makes it look so easier-I can assure people this is hard stuff-99% of gym users couldnt do this shit-even the big muscle heads-they couldnt hold that inverted position at 17 seconds.

[kdevojedi]

i like how the title is basic ring strength...and then the guy does a muscle up to get to support position, something maybe 1/500,000 people can do.

[mchitti]

wow are you serious? I could do it the first time I tried using the rings :P

[capullines2007]

Well this isnt just a muscle up, is a controlled muscled up with hand position greater than shoulder width which is much, much harder.

[mchitti]

hahaha I was sooo wrong, I thought I did that but I didn't, yeah it's beyond hard

[ORTprod]

sorry, I meant to give your comment a thumbs up! Stupid youtube.

[urmumisfine]

A muscle up is basic in gymnastics, it's a level 1 move.

[conjohn2]

if you're calling it simple, i would diagree mate.

[urmumisfine]

Oh it's definately not simple, I honestly find it amazing how difficult the basics are in gymnastics.

[aacchhiilllleess]

idk even know what level one on rings is... but i know muscle up is either 5 or 6...

[mattfreerunner]

well they are right, the'se exercizes arent particularly hard.

[Newguy1337]

@kdevojedi The funny thing is I can do that :)

If you are talking about people who have never been on ring before, about 1/5,000 would be more accurate. all the same it is a nice smooth muscle-up

[teepo619]

these guys dont even look buff thats crazy

[beghilhorst]

Gymnasts develop a compact build. They won't look like fitness guys from the gym, but I assure you they're probably a lot stronger!

[swingi25]

What you say is not correct. Gymnasts train for a maximal relative strength (strength/bodyweight). When talking about 'fitness guys' we can be talking about strong men or bodybuilders. Strong men train for maximal absolute strength. Bodybuilders train for maximal hypertrophy. Both require different training methods to which the body adapts. Hence, if you would let a top gymnast perform a top strong men or top bodybuilder workout, he will not be able to handle the same weights and vice versa.

[trianglechoke7]

Gymnastic strength will also give you a high degree of weightlifting strength, but the reverse is not true.

[slizzardman]

Well... Sort of :P Because of my weight training I went straight into flat tuck back levers and front levers, and after 3 months could do full lay. Planche... lol. That's different. 4 months and I'm at flat tuck, close to straddle. I'm just saying, the strength you build from lifting absolutely carries over. The big difference is the muscles involved in straight armed and disadvantaged positions. Weight training doesn't develop that much.

[Ludwigtremblay]

Wouden't that depens on how you mesure strengh? This guy can probably do over a 100 pull-ups but I don't think I could name a body builder or strongman that could do over 30 that would mean this guy can lift more weight once you multiply the weight buy the number of reps.

[swingi25]

That's exactly my point, each athlete has its own specialty. Gymnasts are good at pull ups. Why? Because gymnasts train for relative strength. Pull ups are relative strength exercises as you are pulling your own bodyweight, so of course gymnasts are better at it. But a gymnast cannot leg press 2300 pound as Ronnie Coleman can. As far as multiplying the repetition by the weight, it is funny you say that. If you look at it like that, then marathon runners are the strongest people in the world ;-)

[omxpablo19]

thank you, thats all im trying to say and everyone gets pissed off.

[Jamal484]

to see a strongman doing incredible amounts of pullups at a bodyweight of 127kg search for konstantin konstantinovs