Man this chords starting the beat in 1:20 always take me on another planet, Jaco was truly an alien genius far ahead of his alienkind.. sheesh, his sound and harmonic diversity makes him one of my favourite musicians of all time
Black Market, what a great album!! I don't know what it is about Peter Erskine's snare drum, but it doesn't have any body to it. I think the snares may be too tight or something. Chester Thompson played drums on the original and, in my opinion, it sounds so much better. I think some of this music doesn't translate well live. That's okay though. After all they were the pioneers along with Miles, Chick, Mahavishnu, and Herbie's Headhunters.
@drewper73 The snare sound like this because Peter is using a animal snare skin instead of normal plastic skin,- i know because i had a Fibes ( the same type as Billy Cobhan used in 1973-74 )snare drum which i had a special Got animal skin which gave this sharp short funky hit sound.
I GET FUCKIN' CHILLS WHEN "Z" ROLLS ON THEM SYTHS. HIS PLAYING IS SO "RANDOM" YET ORGANIZED AND STRUCTURED. that is why they are my favorite BAND OF ANY GENRE of music. AND I'M A RABID PRINCE FAN!!
he is hairy but frickin good!!!!and jaco is jaco th only 1 is bothering mme this shorter boy !!makes me angry sometimes but he beloged to them unfrtntly....
@joefrank700 You're right about the 'milepost; but you'd have to go a few years earlier, BEFORE your 'goddly Jacko' joined them, and dragged down to the mediocrity of the 80s...
Weather Report is my absolute Number One! And that;s why I tend to get a bit emotional... The band's best years were between 1971 and 76. From then on... a slow, sad decline...
THIS song is one of their last great ones. Just, the beginning is from Mysterious Traveller (another great Wayne's track).
@ledzeppelin64 Says who? What ideology? Critcs back then (and me... those who KNOW the band, kiddo) marvelled at their music till... OK, Heavy Weather, just b/c it was so popular, but it's all Joe anyway. If to you, what the band did after, is 'max'...
Take the leftovers of your brain, roll up in your useless ears, and shove this up, little prick.
First of all, Jaco brought Weather Report to a whole new level. I have fucking heard Weather Report's earlier stuff and although great, does not compare to when Jaco joined them.
STFU. You have no idea what you are talking about. JACO = BASS GOD! No one will ever come close to his genius. EVEN AT HIS WORST, HE WAS THE BEST AND STILL FUCKING IS.
@PrZemek44 It means I do not like or agree with your sentiments regarding my father: " your 'goddly Jacko' joined them, and dragged down to the mediocrity of the 80s... "
Obviously neither Joe nor Wayne agree with your opinion either, being that they hand picked him to join the band- and not merely as a "side man" but as a composer AND co-producer. "Jacko" aka my Pops, was the rocket fuel that helped to jet propel WR to another level- beyond the stratosphere..... IMHO
@MaryPastorius With all respect, Miss Pastorius, no number of exclamation marks can change the facts... And our 'debate' doesn't make much sense, b/c I'm talking about the music of my Absolutely No 1 Band ever, and you about your late father. Who was, obviously, a great bass player just... yes, made Weather Report much more popular, but isn't it ironic that Mr Gone, their worst album, was a hit? Just b/c it followed Heavy Weather..
The critics back THEN agreed, 1971 - 76 was when the BAND reached their peak. And I'm surprised how many young people 'dig it', b/c it's a complex music, requires repetitive listening. In my time, we had all year to 'digest' one album... This 'Jaco WR' is so much more popular b/c its much simpler.
@PrZemek44 Actually, U specifically stated that "Jacko" dragged WR down into "the mediocrity of the 80's" to which I responded by saying I disagree. U have your OPINION and I have mine: I LOVE IT. I don't care if "critics back then" found it subpar- btw, Joe didn't either. Also, I don't think a genius like Zawinul would invite my Dad to co-produce and contribute his own compositions to the WR repertoire if he was JUST a great bassist. He was a LOT more than that, even according to YOUR heroes.
@PrZemek44 Take Jaco's Word Of Mouth CD and listen, you motherbitch. Or (easier) go hang yourself. You obviously have a severe mental dysfunction to not understand how Jaco CHANGED MOTHERFUCKING BASS PLAYING. HE REVOLUTIONIZED IT YOU PIECE OF SHIT. You make me ashamed of being human.
Maybe someone knows where is the video of elegant people, where he is trying new way of playing this song. He trays few times till he gets it right. That version is very best of this song
NOT trying to offend anyone, but does anyone else hate this era of Erskine as much as I do? God, that fucking chatty snare drum always drove me nuts. Just curious. I love, love, love Weather Report - just wish Omar or Acuna or....hell, anyone, was in the drum chair.
Erskine defo toned it down later and became a more nuanced player but back then he was just plain annoying IMO.
Erskine is an awesome drummer, and I remember back in the '70s-'80s how important he was becoming. But it always sounded like he was hitting a pen on a dry newspaper rather than a stick on a snare drum. Totally agree. Also, hard to compete with Acuna on this track, you know?
@THEECKP Erskine's really a jazz drummer of great flexibility, and (I think) showed up best in more intimate music (Abercrombie trio), even though he also came out of big band drumming. Alex Acuna was a beautiful drummer for WP, and really THE drummer for this group.
He is. But he beats those drums really really fine. I love the care he shows, he's not bombing the drums like many would have done - instead he stays the backdoor man and let Wayne and Joe driving the melody, while Peter fills admirably the spaces with Jaco and makes such a good texture.
To Jaco Pastorious lovers:Yes, he is one of the best But he played the music of zawinul /shorter and that made him what he is today.And Zawinul was not an easy boss,You can't play whatever you want.Everything was carefully orchestrated
Please compare Jaco's playing without weather report and that where he played e.g.with his own band
Miles Davis played lots of covers in his career, too. such as human nature for instance, but no idiot claimed that he'd played other peoples music...you guys suck so bad...
U have no fuckin idea what you're talking about dude. On the album where this tune appears, jaco has written his own compositions, too. So, speaking in your terms, someone would tell, weather report played jacos music, too but only idiots would think this way. Jaco was also a drum, piano, bass player and singer; he was the first guy who took his frets off his bass in history to create the upright fretless jazz bass sound. WeatherReport didnt made Jaco. Jaco made himself, u dummy!
LOL. Jaco didn't only play the music of Zawinul and Shorter....What about "Teen Town", "Havona", "Three Views Of A Secret", "Punk Jazz", "Barbary Coast", and "River People"? All these tunes were composed by Jaco and were integral parts of WR's ouput. Jaco was also co-producer of most of the WR-albums while he was a member, and Zawinul called himself, Shorter and Jaco a "triangle". Jaco meant more to WR than just being a virtuoso bassist.
When you're saying "It doesn't matter what one thinks of this video or other music of WR" as a comment to the Weather Report tune written by Shorter, from an album where your 'godly Jaco' wrote just one lousy track... What's the name that would fit you? If i lovered myself to your level I'd call you... just an ass.
Please don't spoil my usually high spirits again, mindless comments like yours make me sad.
lousy track or master piece. doesnt matter. how many pieces have you written that other bands covered? so why da fuck are you talkin anyways. dunno how many frets jaco took of his bass, but i am sure they all would fit perfectly in yo ass...
One man's noise is another man's treasure. You can't get it if you listen to it once or twice. And, your comment shows how little you know about WR. Before Jaco, means WR ARGUABLY best stuff from 1973 to 76. (check discography). Jaco was one of the best bassists but didn't bring much to WR creatively. "Jaco years' mark the band's slow decline. It's not my opinion, it's a sad fact. Those who say THIS is WR best stuff are ignorants. Again, Jaco Pastorius was one of the greatest BASSISTS. Period.
Best stuff or no best stuff, I'm listening this for two months and I don't plan to stop doing so. This interpretation is brilliant, no matter which period is greater than other. ...Period.
No, 'Gibraltar' is a very good tune! To me, Black Market was the last REAL WR album. By 'real' I mean, complex and beautiful. Not just 'nice and easy'. And you're right, you can listen to it over and over, and not get tired of it.And when you listen to Mysterious Traveller or Sweetnighter stuff, every time you discover something new! Good luck.
Yes it is. (And how should I interpret the "No" from the startinfg of the sentence? :) - I didn't say it is not... Badia/Gibraltar from Montreux is hauting me from 1990...)
Oh, I just noticed... I don't know why I confused this with 'Gibraltar'. Sorry. Anyway, Black Market is still an 'old, good WR'. Those who like this album should take just 'one more step back' and try LPs I mentioned. Just b/c Jaco is not there doesn't mean it's not good... Good luck.
I thought their Rockpalast performance were one of their good ones, but the ones I really loved were Heavy Weather and Live and Unreleased. Those two albums are my favorite. They do a really sexy version of "Elegant People" on L&U. They do well on Teen Town as well as Black Market.
It doesnot matter what one thinks of this video or other music of WR, Jaco Pastorius was one of the greatest bassplayers ever. To me he is very dear, one of the renewers of music. You have to admire his skills and soul he puts in his music.
he was a composer, arranger too. because of jaco, fender released the fretles jazz bass. he was the first to put on those false harmonics and bendings to the bass (teen town) - he was a melodic bass player too. its not just roots and rhythm, its a whole harmony he was creatin on the bass. how many guys did that in the 60s? i am sure you know the answer... Jaco was for sure a very gifted mind...
I got it on Ebay about 5 years ago. You could try there or Japanese websites, I saw it in a massive Tower records shop in Tokyo. I'd give you mine but my friend was kind enough to lose it for me. Hope you get it.
Its a bit disappointing. To me, the first part is most beautiful! And here, they play a bit of Mysterious Traveller PS. Oh, Weather Report is my all time favourite, maybe thats why I get a bit too demanding sometimes.
What a great version of Elegant People. Man Wayne Shorter is such a phenominal composer. Man I wish I could have been alive to have seen this show. Weather Report rules! Jaco's groove is stellar as usual.
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Yup, They were all pretty hairy. Incomparable.
johnedmunddols 1 month ago
Regarding the above Top Comments: Jaco wants us to do more than he did, and oh my god you got it right about Joe's synth sounds!
TallSomeone 4 months ago
Man this chords starting the beat in 1:20 always take me on another planet, Jaco was truly an alien genius far ahead of his alienkind.. sheesh, his sound and harmonic diversity makes him one of my favourite musicians of all time
alexjrmarino 5 months ago
better than return to forever... but. thats just my opinion.. opinions are like
hot dogs dont ask about origins or contents just put lots of salt.
noodlesmealey 5 months ago
R.I.P. Jaco, you were an influence to many musicians out there...
marko92pn 6 months ago
@marko92pn LUC HAWAN: SIA TU MALEDETTO PER L'ETERNITA'!
Piero2374 5 months ago
what sort of supposedly sentinent being could have 'disliked' this?
SpraysHouseOfFun 7 months ago
Slow it down!!!
drewper73 8 months ago
Black Market, what a great album!! I don't know what it is about Peter Erskine's snare drum, but it doesn't have any body to it. I think the snares may be too tight or something. Chester Thompson played drums on the original and, in my opinion, it sounds so much better. I think some of this music doesn't translate well live. That's okay though. After all they were the pioneers along with Miles, Chick, Mahavishnu, and Herbie's Headhunters.
drewper73 8 months ago
@drewper73 The snare sound like this because Peter is using a animal snare skin instead of normal plastic skin,- i know because i had a Fibes ( the same type as Billy Cobhan used in 1973-74 )snare drum which i had a special Got animal skin which gave this sharp short funky hit sound.
Tfunkize 1 month ago
@Tfunkize Cool. Thanks for the info.
drewper73 1 month ago
1:20-1:40 might be the best seconds on youtube
DiscipleOfPog 9 months ago
Sick video game music
DiscipleOfPog 9 months ago
how hairy is Peter Erskine!
best band ever btw...
MrTheLighter 11 months ago
I GET FUCKIN' CHILLS WHEN "Z" ROLLS ON THEM SYTHS. HIS PLAYING IS SO "RANDOM" YET ORGANIZED AND STRUCTURED. that is why they are my favorite BAND OF ANY GENRE of music. AND I'M A RABID PRINCE FAN!!
MEDASI7211 11 months ago
Is it just me or is that synth opening the same as Mysterious Traveler? Not that theres anything wrong with that, still sexy as fuck
gingersoll6 1 year ago
@gingersoll6 NO ITS NOT JUST YOU, I PICKED UP THAT TOO!!
MEDASI7211 11 months ago
@gingersoll6
Yeah I think it was. I about ready to post somthing saying "that's not.." etc.
dandc45 10 months ago
harry curly and jaco
aaronamccoy 1 year ago
To all Jaco lovers
Please listen to" Beyond the sound barriers"by Wayne Shorter and" Zawinul 75 th" by the Zawinul Syndicate.
If you're done after muliple time listening ,tell me who are the geniuses.
btw Jaco was indeed a good member of WR
zawi1956 1 year ago 2
Miss you so much Jaco ...
John Francis Anthony Pastorius III 1951 – 1987
"Mercy, Mercy, Mercy"
Josef Erich Zawinul 1932 – 2007
Almost 20 years to the day, we separate these losses. But now and forever, they play on, together.
eyerobic 1 year ago 2
uhhhhh ta mortal!!
eschomber 1 year ago
he is hairy but frickin good!!!!and jaco is jaco th only 1 is bothering mme this shorter boy !!makes me angry sometimes but he beloged to them unfrtntly....
melibass 1 year ago
Looks like Shorter wants to take his sax and hit Jaco over the head with it. And put a shirt on, man.
jumpoutatree 1 year ago
@ledzepplin64 : I agree.
JPastorius3 1 year ago
This vidio is another work of art!! !It is to bad they can't be framed for everbody to see an hear!
organham 1 year ago
Jaco, i love You:)
mastersoffunk 1 year ago
RIP Jaco. You are sorely missed.
JPastorius3 1 year ago
Peter and jaco are the best rhythm war-machine ever heard on this earth!
lucalindemann 1 year ago
chester thompson is better
DancinRic 1 year ago
Hey -- Erskine on drums this time.
Well he does a damn good job as usual.
Monstermen
todds7 2 years ago
Love 'em or hate 'em, Weather Report will always be a milepost in jazz and everybody is still trying to do what Jaco was doing way back then.
joefrank700 2 years ago 31
@joefrank700 You're right about the 'milepost; but you'd have to go a few years earlier, BEFORE your 'goddly Jacko' joined them, and dragged down to the mediocrity of the 80s...
Weather Report is my absolute Number One! And that;s why I tend to get a bit emotional... The band's best years were between 1971 and 76. From then on... a slow, sad decline...
THIS song is one of their last great ones. Just, the beginning is from Mysterious Traveller (another great Wayne's track).
PrZemek44 1 year ago
@PrZemek44 You can take your flawed ideology and shove it. Jaco brought Weather Report to the MAX.
ledzeppelin64 1 year ago
@ledzeppelin64 Says who? What ideology? Critcs back then (and me... those who KNOW the band, kiddo) marvelled at their music till... OK, Heavy Weather, just b/c it was so popular, but it's all Joe anyway. If to you, what the band did after, is 'max'...
Take the leftovers of your brain, roll up in your useless ears, and shove this up, little prick.
PrZemek44 1 year ago
Or start catching up... Listen to all i did before your parents had their first fuck...
PrZemek44 1 year ago
@PrZemek44
First of all, Jaco brought Weather Report to a whole new level. I have fucking heard Weather Report's earlier stuff and although great, does not compare to when Jaco joined them.
STFU. You have no idea what you are talking about. JACO = BASS GOD! No one will ever come close to his genius. EVEN AT HIS WORST, HE WAS THE BEST AND STILL FUCKING IS.
ledzeppelin64 1 year ago
@ledzeppelin64 So you say. Take some Xanax and have nice dreams...
PrZemek44 1 year ago
@ledzeppelin64 word!! ; )
MaryPastorius 1 year ago
@PrZemek44 Booooooooooooooo...............
MaryPastorius 1 year ago
@MaryPastorius Whyyyyyyyyyyy?...........
What's your word?
PrZemek44 1 year ago
@PrZemek44 It means I do not like or agree with your sentiments regarding my father: " your 'goddly Jacko' joined them, and dragged down to the mediocrity of the 80s... "
Obviously neither Joe nor Wayne agree with your opinion either, being that they hand picked him to join the band- and not merely as a "side man" but as a composer AND co-producer. "Jacko" aka my Pops, was the rocket fuel that helped to jet propel WR to another level- beyond the stratosphere..... IMHO
JFPIII4Life!!!!!! = )
MaryPastorius 1 year ago
@MaryPastorius With all respect, Miss Pastorius, no number of exclamation marks can change the facts... And our 'debate' doesn't make much sense, b/c I'm talking about the music of my Absolutely No 1 Band ever, and you about your late father. Who was, obviously, a great bass player just... yes, made Weather Report much more popular, but isn't it ironic that Mr Gone, their worst album, was a hit? Just b/c it followed Heavy Weather..
PrZemek44 1 year ago
The critics back THEN agreed, 1971 - 76 was when the BAND reached their peak. And I'm surprised how many young people 'dig it', b/c it's a complex music, requires repetitive listening. In my time, we had all year to 'digest' one album... This 'Jaco WR' is so much more popular b/c its much simpler.
May Your Father rest in peace.
PrZemek44 1 year ago
@PrZemek44 Actually, U specifically stated that "Jacko" dragged WR down into "the mediocrity of the 80's" to which I responded by saying I disagree. U have your OPINION and I have mine: I LOVE IT. I don't care if "critics back then" found it subpar- btw, Joe didn't either. Also, I don't think a genius like Zawinul would invite my Dad to co-produce and contribute his own compositions to the WR repertoire if he was JUST a great bassist. He was a LOT more than that, even according to YOUR heroes.
MaryPastorius 1 year ago 2
@PrZemek44 Take Jaco's Word Of Mouth CD and listen, you motherbitch. Or (easier) go hang yourself. You obviously have a severe mental dysfunction to not understand how Jaco CHANGED MOTHERFUCKING BASS PLAYING. HE REVOLUTIONIZED IT YOU PIECE OF SHIT. You make me ashamed of being human.
ledzeppelin64 1 year ago
@ledzeppelin64 Wow, I hope it's just drugs, and tomorrow you'll be your-normal-half-witted-self.
PrZemek44 1 year ago
@PrZemek44 you-can-go-fuck-your-self-you-dog.
ledzeppelin64 1 year ago
@PrZemek44 Honestly, why the fuck do you keep talking to me, I have absolutely no interest in ever talking to you ever.
ledzeppelin64 1 year ago
@ledzeppelin64 Then shut up. Or SAY sth. Finally...
PrZemek44 1 year ago
@PrZemek44 Kthxbai noob.
ledzeppelin64 1 year ago
@PrZemek44 Let the record show that I have won this youtube battle.
ledzeppelin64 1 year ago
@ledzeppelin64 We'd rather see your medical record...
Good luck with your other 'fights'. Here, you just made an obvious ass of yourself.
Cheers
PrZemek44 1 year ago
@PrZemek44 Ok. Xanax man.
ledzeppelin64 1 year ago
@joefrank700 of cours people are trying but are they succeding, I think u can answer that
Rockboy206 9 months ago
@joefrank700 Alphonso Johnson: al massimo ti si poteva concedere di portare la custodia del basso di Jaco..
Piero2374 5 months ago
Maybe someone knows where is the video of elegant people, where he is trying new way of playing this song. He trays few times till he gets it right. That version is very best of this song
alealgis 2 years ago 2
@alealgis
i`d love to c that, if it`s up on youtube
tshibuta 1 year ago
This is actually a Wayne Shorter composition. (Black Market)
Drivethebeat 2 years ago 3
Peter Erskine is one hairy man :D
Satak8 2 years ago 6
@Satak8,
Mr. werewolf on drums. Hahaha
rkc415 1 year ago
NOT trying to offend anyone, but does anyone else hate this era of Erskine as much as I do? God, that fucking chatty snare drum always drove me nuts. Just curious. I love, love, love Weather Report - just wish Omar or Acuna or....hell, anyone, was in the drum chair.
Erskine defo toned it down later and became a more nuanced player but back then he was just plain annoying IMO.
longfade 2 years ago
Erskine is an awesome drummer, and I remember back in the '70s-'80s how important he was becoming. But it always sounded like he was hitting a pen on a dry newspaper rather than a stick on a snare drum. Totally agree. Also, hard to compete with Acuna on this track, you know?
THEECKP 2 years ago
@THEECKP Erskine's really a jazz drummer of great flexibility, and (I think) showed up best in more intimate music (Abercrombie trio), even though he also came out of big band drumming. Alex Acuna was a beautiful drummer for WP, and really THE drummer for this group.
stuarthants 1 year ago
@longfade
hmmm, i don`t feel that the play was that offensive, rather i love the crisp beat. it`s true, he is playing with a great deal of freedom.
but i think his style of drumming was important in making this live exciting.
tshibuta 1 year ago
is peter erskine wearing a shirt or is that manfur?
charlezurich 2 years ago 5
jaco shows that he was a great pocket bass player . thats why this is one of my favorite weather report songs
djlsb 2 years ago
Don`t be stupid please and leasten and learn before speaks
Freakman58 2 years ago
wow, those analog synth sounds are definitely amazing...
dibbeke 2 years ago 17
@dibbeke I just realized that the synths are from Mysterious Traveler. Talk about a bad ass way to start up a song!
TheMrCaddyshack 2 months ago
Like I always say...
Peter Erskine looks like Chewbacca in this concert :-D
DaRQsiDe 2 years ago
He is. But he beats those drums really really fine. I love the care he shows, he's not bombing the drums like many would have done - instead he stays the backdoor man and let Wayne and Joe driving the melody, while Peter fills admirably the spaces with Jaco and makes such a good texture.
gswzero 2 years ago
Sorry: I wanted to say compare jaco's playing WITH weather report and his playing without.
I hope that now I am clear
zawi1956 2 years ago
To Jaco Pastorious lovers:Yes, he is one of the best But he played the music of zawinul /shorter and that made him what he is today.And Zawinul was not an easy boss,You can't play whatever you want.Everything was carefully orchestrated
Please compare Jaco's playing without weather report and that where he played e.g.with his own band
zawi1956 2 years ago
"Carefully orchestrated". You got THAT right, zawi1956! Even almighty Jaco played what Joes and Wayne (mostly those two) had WRITTEN. Amen.
PrZemek44 2 years ago
Miles Davis played lots of covers in his career, too. such as human nature for instance, but no idiot claimed that he'd played other peoples music...you guys suck so bad...
mastersoffunk 2 years ago 2
U have no fuckin idea what you're talking about dude. On the album where this tune appears, jaco has written his own compositions, too. So, speaking in your terms, someone would tell, weather report played jacos music, too but only idiots would think this way. Jaco was also a drum, piano, bass player and singer; he was the first guy who took his frets off his bass in history to create the upright fretless jazz bass sound. WeatherReport didnt made Jaco. Jaco made himself, u dummy!
mastersoffunk 2 years ago
@zawi1956
LOL. Jaco didn't only play the music of Zawinul and Shorter....What about "Teen Town", "Havona", "Three Views Of A Secret", "Punk Jazz", "Barbary Coast", and "River People"? All these tunes were composed by Jaco and were integral parts of WR's ouput. Jaco was also co-producer of most of the WR-albums while he was a member, and Zawinul called himself, Shorter and Jaco a "triangle". Jaco meant more to WR than just being a virtuoso bassist.
Pastorius333 1 year ago 3
the most influential bass players of all time
DirkjeA 2 years ago
Amen.
R.I.P. Jaco, Joe, and your brain.
PrZemek44 2 years ago
Yeah whatever, smartass. ....
Looking at all the thumbs down you got, one wonders you must be a well liked person, your reply completely answers that question...
DirkjeA 2 years ago
And he calls himself highspirited on his channel........
DirkjeA 2 years ago
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PrZemek44 2 years ago
'Thumbs down'? What are you, 12?
When you're saying "It doesn't matter what one thinks of this video or other music of WR" as a comment to the Weather Report tune written by Shorter, from an album where your 'godly Jaco' wrote just one lousy track... What's the name that would fit you? If i lovered myself to your level I'd call you... just an ass.
Please don't spoil my usually high spirits again, mindless comments like yours make me sad.
Peace and love. And grow up.
PrZemek44 2 years ago
This rude and silly remark state my case, you are a sad human being indeed.....
and you should learn to read less selective, or does that suits you better?
high spirit......... yeah right, as I said watever.....
DirkjeA 2 years ago
bla bla
PrZemek44 2 years ago
a mature reply, so very highspirited....
DirkjeA 2 years ago
bla?
PrZemek44 2 years ago
I'm still waiting for any (mature or just at your level) reply to the merit of my agrument.
PrZemek44 2 years ago
a mature reply on bla? Lets leave it at this, first grow up, than you can return
DirkjeA 2 years ago
blaaaa...
PrZemek44 2 years ago
lousy track or master piece. doesnt matter. how many pieces have you written that other bands covered? so why da fuck are you talkin anyways. dunno how many frets jaco took of his bass, but i am sure they all would fit perfectly in yo ass...
mastersoffunk 2 years ago
22 if im not wrong :)
jonjonz91 2 years ago
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busisanclaire 2 years ago
One man's noise is another man's treasure. You can't get it if you listen to it once or twice. And, your comment shows how little you know about WR. Before Jaco, means WR ARGUABLY best stuff from 1973 to 76. (check discography). Jaco was one of the best bassists but didn't bring much to WR creatively. "Jaco years' mark the band's slow decline. It's not my opinion, it's a sad fact. Those who say THIS is WR best stuff are ignorants. Again, Jaco Pastorius was one of the greatest BASSISTS. Period.
PrZemek44 2 years ago
Best stuff or no best stuff, I'm listening this for two months and I don't plan to stop doing so. This interpretation is brilliant, no matter which period is greater than other. ...Period.
gswzero 2 years ago
No, 'Gibraltar' is a very good tune! To me, Black Market was the last REAL WR album. By 'real' I mean, complex and beautiful. Not just 'nice and easy'. And you're right, you can listen to it over and over, and not get tired of it.And when you listen to Mysterious Traveller or Sweetnighter stuff, every time you discover something new! Good luck.
PrZemek44 2 years ago
Yes it is. (And how should I interpret the "No" from the startinfg of the sentence? :) - I didn't say it is not... Badia/Gibraltar from Montreux is hauting me from 1990...)
gswzero 2 years ago
Just scratch "the 'No'" and read again...
Best wishes.
PrZemek44 2 years ago
Oh, I just noticed... I don't know why I confused this with 'Gibraltar'. Sorry. Anyway, Black Market is still an 'old, good WR'. Those who like this album should take just 'one more step back' and try LPs I mentioned. Just b/c Jaco is not there doesn't mean it's not good... Good luck.
PrZemek44 2 years ago
I thought their Rockpalast performance were one of their good ones, but the ones I really loved were Heavy Weather and Live and Unreleased. Those two albums are my favorite. They do a really sexy version of "Elegant People" on L&U. They do well on Teen Town as well as Black Market.
ultimabass 2 years ago
It doesnot matter what one thinks of this video or other music of WR, Jaco Pastorius was one of the greatest bassplayers ever. To me he is very dear, one of the renewers of music. You have to admire his skills and soul he puts in his music.
DirkjeA 2 years ago
he was a composer, arranger too. because of jaco, fender released the fretles jazz bass. he was the first to put on those false harmonics and bendings to the bass (teen town) - he was a melodic bass player too. its not just roots and rhythm, its a whole harmony he was creatin on the bass. how many guys did that in the 60s? i am sure you know the answer... Jaco was for sure a very gifted mind...
mastersoffunk 2 years ago 5
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So much writing, so much waste...
My Deutscher dude, play yourself a nice Portrait of Tracy, and go to sleep. Good night.
PS. I'm afraid to even imagine what I could find in your, superior, ass.
PrZemek44 2 years ago
I´ve been searcing my ass off. Does anyone know where I can get the Offenbach-session on DVD? I believe it´s called "Young and Fine".
kukenimunnen 2 years ago
I got it on Ebay about 5 years ago. You could try there or Japanese websites, I saw it in a massive Tower records shop in Tokyo. I'd give you mine but my friend was kind enough to lose it for me. Hope you get it.
carlosbassos 2 years ago
Thanks a million, man. I hope your DVD will show up eventually.
kukenimunnen 2 years ago
IAnybody know where to get a Moe Hair vest like Peter's wearing? ...........Oh wait....thats his body hair............LOL......Nasty!
GaryStanionis 2 years ago
Its a bit disappointing. To me, the first part is most beautiful! And here, they play a bit of Mysterious Traveller PS. Oh, Weather Report is my all time favourite, maybe thats why I get a bit too demanding sometimes.
RIP Joe, the best jazz musician of all time!
PrZemek44 3 years ago
agreed. the beginning is key
francescauphigh 3 years ago
Wow, you're so young and dig Weather Report to the point that you noticed THAT? I'm impressd. Really. Best wishes.
PrZemek44 3 years ago
me? lol thanks man but not all 16 year olds are musically slow.
francescauphigh 3 years ago 2
who s the drummer, is awesome !!
joaqui1902 3 years ago
78, that must be Peter Erskine.
Excellent song!
SigDrums 3 years ago
What a bunch of freaks!!! but man do I love it
ariellofellow 3 years ago
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It's so sad... "bunch of freaks"... Check Weather Report stuff before THE freak, Jaco joined them. They were always a serious, respected band.
PrZemek44 2 years ago
That is an extremely lame assessment of one of the great bassists in jazz...
billyorbit 2 years ago 2
Big thank you jnerrot for putting up all these great Weather Report videos!
daraghkinch 3 years ago
the version from montreaux kicks the ass in off this one. not a tune that benefits from being played fast
tarffboy 3 years ago
Which album is this from?
levanyzzuf 3 years ago
Black Market
dude25875 3 years ago
Must pull my Mutron Bi-Phase out and dust it off.
Drivethebeat 3 years ago
When I first heard this as a child on my father's old record player it spooked me out at the beginning. I love this song.
standasone37 3 years ago
Weather Report is the thing, man.
Totally crazy musicians, yet extremely good!
And yeah, you can't notice Erskine's not wearing a sweater lol.
Gretgor666 3 years ago 2
yeah he's a furry mofo ain't he! that's what keep the grooves hottt!! ;)
3chrds 3 years ago
i bet a guy like erskine's diarrhea sounds like a mix of a crash and bass drum hit
VoteOlegForJesus08 3 years ago 2
Erskines got no shirt on but i still cnt see no skin. amazing tune love the harmonic intro
happyknappy14 3 years ago 2
haha
swisstripz 3 years ago
just got into fusion. phenomenal music. what kind of dance is the leitmotif of this song, some south american?
skutratufahija 3 years ago 2
What a great version of Elegant People. Man Wayne Shorter is such a phenominal composer. Man I wish I could have been alive to have seen this show. Weather Report rules! Jaco's groove is stellar as usual.
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OGDRAGON072 3 years ago
wat
edilnourgirl 3 years ago
Holy crap, is Erskine wearing a sweater? That is nasty.
GunnarVagotis 3 years ago
ROFL
thebLUEmoNk 3 years ago
My favourite weather report track, but this period really bugged me as it was just Joe and Jaco (both RIP) battling for the dominant sound on stage.
elgaucho66 4 years ago
Got to disagree. That cliche about Joe and jaco starting to piss me off. i just hear great music mate.
jibsmokestack1 4 years ago 10
Brilliant. More than worth having to suffer through Erskine's sweat and hair.... ;-)
kathakalimask 4 years ago 5
haha nice
n9freaky 4 years ago