Ok I like to learn the truth and though this is kinda depressing. Ok ok so we stop recycling plastic and paper (RECYCLE ALUMIUM AND METAL cause metal is good) but makes me want to find something to do with the waste. Can we burn all the recycled paper for energy?
@Fu3R4 There are biowaste generators. The main thing is they mention subsidies for recycling, but not the subsidies for generating commodities in the first place. I imagine if you cut all subsidies for commodities, you'd then make it beneficial to recycle for a lot more materials.
I have to disagree on the landfill point. It might be veryyyy gradual...we might have room NOW, but they are thinking in the terms of the next few generations. Think in terms of thousands of years, not tens of years. Yeah, you might not care because we won't be here, but it WILL add up. Furthermore, it's not quite as simple as putting the nation's trash in a 35 mile fill- that won't happen. Have you SEEN our coasts? You can find garbage EVERYWHERE-and where does it come from? TRASH BARGES.
Recycling plastic isn't about having cheaper plastic. These guys forgot to mention the floating plastic island in the pacific ocean. Also, I'd like to know how many landfills as spotless as the one they visited there are in America.
The same arguments go for solar power vs oil. Oil is easy and abundant. Solar power is ineffecient, so governments spend money to create a fake market for it, so that an industry will grow around it.
The thing is, oil is abundant NOW. Governments are thinking ahead. When oil goes to hell, developed nations can either make sure they are already past it, or deal with a mess. Same with recycling. The current state is a warm-up. Not every resource will remain as abundant as today.
what about the landbases we steal from people like native americans to pilfer more recources needed to make more useless, ugly crap that litters our streets?
Out in the country, some cities have no trash system. People there just burn all their garbage. If you only use what you can burn, then you wouldn't need landfills and you wouldn't need to recycle.
i wish they would expose the electrical car. no electrical car has ever been built without oil. to produce just one cartire takes 26l of oil. a way is discovered to produce tires from bioisoprene however i would like someone to calculate how much fertile land would be needed to generate enough bioisoprene to produce just tires for the total amount of used cars in the world today
@Dailydose13 No-one said it dosent take oil to produce, ofcourse it takes oil to produce tires, they are rubber which is made from oil, but the car dont run on oil.... seriously?
@Ravenclth watch the 35min animation on youtube titled 'There's No Tomorrow' to better understand peakoil, peak resources and an economy based on perpetual growth
There is a lot of room for improvement in recycling but I don't think that burying or burning is a sustainable solution at all, that's why we call it waste. Make recycling plastics an paper more efficient: /watch?v=61JSHwTF6j4
Government Is just a bunch of control freak pussys who need to get stood against a wall and rapped for eternity. There all gonna burn in hell for this
these guys are really good, but their entire tirade is poisoned by libertarian garbage. especially when the topic dosent even relate to libertarianism. its good facts, but then between these facts its, "bitch bitch bitch, government" "i hate the government this, the government is the cause of all evil blah blah blah" try sticking to topics.
@cole3454657 The show isn't about libertarianism. It's about exposing the truth on topics that we are constantly lied to about. At if you haven't realized it yet government is a major cause for the majority of these problems. It wouldn't make much sense to bring these topics to light without also discussing the reasons why they exist in the first place.
@a2birdcage1 i know the show is not about libertarianism, but they make it about libertarianism when the subject dosent even relate. im just saying they can give it a rest when it dosent apply. alot of the times what the government is doing is a fair comprimise between two sides and they use demagoguery to make it seem like its terrible when its not. otherwise its ahilarious show.
Uhhhhh...no, dude. If the price of gas rose due solely to "inflation by the Fed", we'd see EVERY price ALSO inflate JUST AS MUCH. So you'd expect that, as the price of gas fluctuated, the prices of Xbox games, for example, along w/the prices of EVERYTHING ELSE would fluctuate with it.
my city made new trucks for recycling, 3 ppl to a dump truck only now with the new trucks its one person with a mechanical arm... waste of gas, waste of time and actually is taking jobs not giving
Oh, I see, some jobs are fake. The wages paid to people that goes into the economy is ... imaginary.
Thanks, fanatical libertarians. Where is the portal to the galaxy where libertarianism produces something other than the free market nightmare we're ALREADY living in?
@Turtleproof Work for the sake of work is stupid. If you do not actually produce anything from work, it's nothing but charity with another label on it. It would make more sense to just send everyone who currently works in the recycling industry a check and shut everything down.
Jobs are the end product of economic policy. They are not the raw material. I know you've made a significant emotional investment in leftist policies, but you need to admit you were duped and wake up.
@TheLastBrainLeft Why do you call it busy work that produces nothing when its product is turning trash into necessary, useable resources?
People with emotional investments into things generally make unfounded assertions and are lead to conclusions by sentiment rather than evidence, often saying things that are obviously false.
@Turtleproof The jobs aren't "fake". They are just unnecessary. It doesn't make any more sense than just being on welfare, except that welfare checks don't pollute.
meh, i recycle metals. glass, i try to avoid buying in the first place, but i usually store it, reuse it (holding nails, etc in my barn/shop) or just crush it up slightly and bring it to a center years from now. paper i save for weed suppressant around flower beds/garden. meat i just pitch outside and let dogs/wolves deal with it. anything else i compost.
@maxdecphoenix Man, that's a great system. Sounds like you have some space, though, so that helps. I imagine apartment dwellers would have a harder time. I know the local metro area started a composting system, but they compost peanuts compared to what I do outside the city in my own yard.
@EmilyDNelson yea, i have just over 2 acres. as far as apartment dwellers go, they have some options. worm composting is pretty much odor free if it's set up properly and can be done in a container not much larger than a shoebox. and could even grow a few things in window boxes. i couldn't live in a city. everytime i visit my bro in the burb's just outside of new orleans with not even 3 feet between houses, i don't know how he can stand it.
They left out glass. What's the skinny on that? They kinda glossed over cans, and most of the recycling i do is of metal, which they admit makes sense.
Once we find a way to make massive renewable energy that will make it worth it to recycle all of our elements without pollution, then great. Until then we should be using landfills. Hopefully we can make those as environmentally friendly as possible until then.
@MasterAsra The whole thing basically, that recycling is bullshit. I don't think we need to recycle paper but recycling plastic makes sense. If it can be reused, why not recycle it? It's better than dumping it into a landfill.
I was recycling in 1970 when I was 8 years old for the painfully simple reason that the Pepsi bottling company wanted the glass bottles back so they charged us for the bottles & gave us the money back when we returned them.
The government was not necessary because it wasn't stupid.
Glass and aluminum are cheap and cost effective to recycle and reclaim. Paper is renewable and will break down in a landfill w/out much pollution. Plastic can be bad. It can't break down. Microbes can't even break it down many version of plastics and trying to recycle it is still more expensive than raw production. The landfills of today are 10x's better than they were 50 years ago and there is ALWAYS room to make things better.
@Butmunch666 Some... the research is still showing partial breakdowns at best. It's especially harsh in the ocean where marine microbes break down some of the chemical bonds but not all of them. This will take time to evolve. It will still take a long time for plastic to break down vs say corrugated cardboard or paper. I agree with you that Microbes can break down plastics.
@jimfath It's a matter of what's a bigger problem; Land pollution (landfill) or air pollution (pollution caused to melt down non-biodegradable objects).
Money shouldn't come into this.
Money is what's preventing some countries from cutting down greenhouse gas bi-production.
@jimfath The reason recycling aluminum is cost effective is due to the expensive process of making usable aluminum. It's not smelted from ore, it must be processed chemically from the mineral bauxite, and it's a nasty chemical process to boot. After that, to make usable metal, gigantic electric kilns are needed to reach really hot temps. That takes gigawatts of electricity. That's my aluminum, already in a metal form is so cost effective to recycle.
@jimfath Actually it does break down, it just takes more time than other organic products. I've heard it should be around a thousand years. That sounds like a very long time, but for the Earth it is actually very fast.
It's good stuff guys, you only have to pay close attention to where it's aimed. While most of what has been said in the show might be true and valid for US citizens, it doesn't work worldwide or for people in other countries. Landfills doesn't have all those regulations everywhere, other countries might not have that much space, not all paper comes from treefarms in other countries, etc. Also, only because it's a waste of money today, doesn't mean it will always be.
P&T also like to quote the Competitive Enterprise Institute, which is a right-wing, anti-government, anti-regulation, lobbyist group. Of course they're going to say a bunch of bullshit about how recycling is bad. They also messed up on the information regarding deforestation. They said there are MORE trees now than in the 1920s (or some crap like that) but the truth is that over 1/2 of the forests in the world have been cleared out in the past 50 years. More of P&T's bullshit!
@stockscout79 They don't deny that rainforest is being cleared. But it's not being cleared in the name of logging and paper production; it's being cleared because people in South America need land to live on. Our paper is not being made from loggers; it's being made from renewable farms. There absolutely ARE more trees now than there were a century ago.
This was pure bullshit on P&T's part. They keep talking about how it costs $8 billion per year to recycle, well that equals $27 for every man, woman, & child every year or break it down for each week (since the recycling truck comes by each week), it breaks down to about .50 cents every week to recycle. BFD!!!
In regards to the safety of the liners of the landfills, there are numerous stories of where landfills HAVE leaked and toxic sludge has oozed out, or water supplies are poisoned, etc.
@stockscout79 Well, then they should clean up the damage caused by those particular landfills and push for better regulation of landfill sites. Just because one condom in 100 is likely to break, doesn't mean we should stop selling condoms. Just do your homework and make sure the waste management departments are doing theirs. I know it's trendy to lash out against anyone who disagrees with you as being "right-wing", but it makes the term essentially meaningless. Calm down.
@stockscout79 Old ones, which were not engineered to modern environmental standards. The irony is no one wants new landfills, but new landfills are the cleanest way to dispose of trash.
The idea behind this episode is OK, but they should've done their homework better. They only mentioned aluminium, but it's not the only thing worth recycling. Of course, paper isn't one of them (if we "grow" it on tree farms).
Some polymers should be recycled, and some shouldn't, and really could be burned to gain energy, just like oil from which they were made.
Most metals should be recycled. There are some really toxic ones that you just can't contain, like mercury.
@endimion17 It's still cheaper to mine iron ore and make steel from scratch than it is to collect, process and re-use existing metal objects. Same with plastic. It'll never biodegrade. So what?
i lived 8 miles from a landfill for 20 year and i didn't even know till 18 years in. i past this thing twice a week in the summer every year, and it still took my 18 years to realize it was a fucking landfill.
I am a fan of P&T, but this was by far the least compelling episode of this show I've seen. Hardly any evidence is given for the claims; the main argument they fall back on is that it costs a lot of money and paper recycling causes more trees to be grown and consequently harvested. No mention of petroleum products or other resources. I wish they had actually done research instead of just interviewing the one anti-recycling expert.
What about saving natural recources? Not trees, more among the lines of oil, for making plastic. They even specifically said recycling plastic was a waste.
@ElectricSheep10 What about the oil and other resources needed to complete the recycling process.
It's not like you put a plastic bottle in a container and it magically becomes a new bottle. They need to use machines to break it down and process, those machines are built from metal, they have a life span, and need to have parts replaced from time to time, they use electricity generated by burning oil or coal.
The point is, it takes MORE resources in the recycling process than making one new.
@ElectricSheep10 You're missing something. We have enough trees, more now than ever before, and plastic recycling requires an expensive process. It makes more sense to just landfill the plastic and let it remain undecomposed forever.
This episode never explained how recycling plastic bottles is WORSE for the environment than making new ones. In penns own words: "the lesser of two evils is still evil". Simply saying that recycling plastic is more expensive isn't taking in the whole picture. Plastic bottles and bags are a disaster. If it cost money to keep them out of the environment, so be it. In australia, the same truck is used for general waste and recyclables, so the transport point is moot. Unimpressive.
@SchutzFi All waste collected is taken to a waste transfer station, from there it is taken to either landfill or recycling stations. It doesn't matter whether it is rubbish or recycling, it ALL HAS TO BE TRANSPORTED. The landfills are always in places far away from the community. There really is no extra transport involved for recycling, rather the opposite.
@BreaksFast Fine, then landfill it all and eliminate the wasteful sorting and processing. Garbage trunks can drive right into a landfill, dump it's cargo, and the process is DONE.
@BreaksFast Landfilling keeps plastic (and everything else put in it) "out of the environment. And why is plastic a disaster? Do you have some pertinent fact to offer in defense of this statement, or are you (like I used to) simply regurgitating propaganda crafted especially for the benefit of a select few?
This episode never explained how recycling plastic bottles is WORSE for the environment than making new ones. In penns own words: "the lesser of two evils is still evil". Simply saying that recycling plastic is more expensive isn't taking in the whole picture. Plastic bottles and bags are a disaster. If it cost money to keep them out of the environment, so be it. In australia, the same truck is used for general waste and recyclables, so the transport point is moot.
Wow, that's actually very eye-opening. But honestly, I'm just gonna keep recycling. It's a gut feeling that tells us to recycle that's been around since school and the government started telling me this shit.
Some towns actually made it illegal to not recycle? If that happens to where I live I'm suing the cops that bust me for trespassing disturbing the peace and police brutality (because they might think I'm a violent asshole). And all this coming from a 16 year old. I should become a lawyer
@Nicoaraeradu They admit in the global warming episode that it is still unknown if there is an impact made by methane or c02 emissions at the end of the episode so I'd rather not use that as an excuse to say there's no problem.
@Nicoaraeradu Let's just believe everything on profit driven TV shows that are broadcasts for entertainment value where the one sided commentary uses curse words and humor as a means to drive a point. That's where the real news is.
@tidedragon Why do you assume the people viewing this show automatically adopt all the viewpoints of the show? So quick to jump to extremes Mr. Detergentlizard.
@TheDmo22222 For the same reason every AGW alarmist reacts so positively to every bullshit global warming study and so negatively to anything that casts doubt. It's called confirmation bias. Everybody suffers from it, to a varying extent.
@tidedragon Replace "curse words and humor" with "words used out of context and fear" and ur describing every corporate news media. This is not one sided commentary, they clearly present both sides to the argument and side with the one that doesnt waste billions of dollars in tax money, saves energy, lowers pollution, and simply put..isn't a total fucking scam. but hey youre a real free thinker you rebel! how you buy into the bullshit belief that billions of other willfully ignorant subscribe to
@arru23 huh? But it's a by-product of decomposition... so, methane production is a naturally occuring phenomenon. We can't stop the production of methane... because we don't recycle discarded food. Not all greenhouse gases are bad (assuming man-made global warming exists or is an issue).
I didn't rage until I heard "mandatory recycling". It always come down to that, doesn't it? Being forced by bullshit laws, and that's with just about everything. I'm sure my grandkids will think I'm a super badass (or just an asshole) when I tell them how I smoked tobacco in a public place, or killed an animal with a legally owned firearm just for sport and then later threw that empty ammunition box right in the fucking trash can and it was completely legit.
@eun0ia Because Wal Mart work is productive, and the salaries come out of wealth created, now wealth appropriated from taxpayers. That's the flaw with liberal economic policy, they don't know how to create wealth, they are just obsessed with re-distributing the wealth which already exists.
that chick looked like she was about to vomit with that fat pig behind her.
Is it any wonder that a fat guy that doesn't take care of himself and gorges food would have a problem with reusing waste?
He never addressed metals or glass, both of which are more expensive to create from scratch. All the reused materials save energy from using raw materials despite his constant claim otherwise.
But the main thought here is that natural resources are not indefinite. Just see $5 gas.
@YTSparty He never addressed metals or glass, both of which are more expensive to create from scratch. All the reused materials save energy from using raw materials despite his constant claim otherwise.
He actually says it is cheaper to recycle cans and he brings up the point to include metal he says that the items where you can make money recycling people will do it. Where I live if you put anything metal by the side of the road by the time the sun goes down someone would have picked it up.
@YTSparty Have you ever considered that the price of oil is denominated in US dollars worldwide, that the price of oil is determined on a world market, and that the Fed's recent "printing" and giving away of trillions of dollars might have driven down the value of the dollar in terms of real goods (such as oil)?
@SCROGY He said that people are making a profit off it. So, we should be paid for recyling aluminum. Not pay for it. But he didn't really address the energy of mining and smelting of metals.
@TheLukeStein He said that recycling aluminum was the one thing that made sense because it is cheaper that making new cans. And people do get paid if they collect cans and take them to designated places for payment. Were you even paying attention to the video?
@TheLukeStein We ARE, in the form of the nickel you get for returning your empty aluminum cans. Aluminum is incredibly expensive to produce and that makes it an outlier in the debate of the waste of recycling.
@YTSparty Priced in silver, gas is cheaper than it has ever been. It's called inflation. When you print money, and inflate it more using fractional reserve banking, the value of all the money in the system goes down.
@YTSparty Yes he did, and you are wrong. Except for aluminum, no recycling of any specific material costs less than making it from scratch. I am sure you sincerely read something that conflicts with this statement, which goes to the core of the problem: mushy unsophisticated minds and targeted propaganda.
@TheLastBrainLeft Really? Only alumnium? So all that steel that is recycled at junkyards, is more expensive that mining iron ore? If it's such a loss, then why are there cardboard boxes made of recycled paper? Just for the fun of it? And the temperature to recycle glass is less than blazing sand. Let me guess, gold is cheaper to mine than sell as well, right? Yeah, who has the mush mind, really?
this show has been on for 7 season! what a load of bullshit. man, americans are dumb. who would listen to the guy who used to announce tv shows for comedy central tell people his opinion.
Hey you 2 fucking psycos, what it´s your smart answer to what to do with the fucking waste? justo because you in your country have a lot of land you can make layers of trash in a big place??!! and because according toU there´s a lot of trees is ok to chop them down?? areU republicasn or something?
I used to dislike this crude and vulgar Penn dude. After watching his exposure of the concocted recycling 'movement', I now like and respect him. Keep it up.
@TravisVadon You realize there's trash cans right? If those people aren't going to use them, they aren't going to use recycling bins. Recycling is not an answer to street litter. How did those 2 thoughts even intersect? Use logic.
Those companies need to be prosecuted and use landfills. Criminal companies shouldn't be the catalyst bringing regulation to law abiding companies.
I'll trust science and engineering before a news headline. The boogeyman isn't a methane monster.
too bad govt. fucked up those two divisions though. its more glamorous to be a buisnessman or a politican or an entertainer than an engineer or a scientist. as we grow older and we gain knowledge of finance people tend to lean away from those two divisions.
@TravisVadon the thousands of tons of plastics, aluminum and styrofoam even if it is a 1 million [1000000] tons it would still be an absolutely tiny amount compared to the 210billion [210,000,000,000,0] tons that america produces each year.as for the storys you talk "deadly methane gas kills 5" and"family died from methane gas" listen to this "Man killed in recycling plant blast ' one man injured and another dead at recycling plant" and "Woman killed in recycling truck tragedy"
I feel like her assessment that that sized landfill would fit 1000 years of garbage is based on constant numbers. The population will probably grow larger and the size will have to grow. I still don't think it will be that big of a deal, but it's just a thought.
@alexvlk Population growth is largely believed to level off over the coming years and eventually decline leaving the population max at around 9 billion for a looong time to come. Besides, if most of that garbage decomposes, leaving only the plastics and such, there's really nothing we have to worry about.
It's more important to REDUCE and REUSE items - see video "The Story of Stuff". The issues not really mentioned in this story are considering the cradle to grave aspect of items produced, with total costs involved. Whatever we do, we need to consider our global impact. This story also left out another reason not to recycle plastic, because although diversion rates might seem high, much of the plastic is NOT recyclable, & ends up in landfills anyway! Documentaries about this are available.
@maehlers Methane is colorless and odorless, so the animals won't know it's there. Landfills have to have vents to release the methane as it's produced. It may explode if a lot of it is generated without being released. Of course if they use the methane to produce energy, it doesn't make a lot of sense to let the methane escape to the atmosphere. Also deer, elk, cows and goats produce methane during their digestion.
Man, I'm a skeptic and I always thought I didn't believe any bullshit.... but I had no idea recycling was bullshit! First time I've felt indoctrinated... from as early as I can remember society gave me the wrong idea.
@Nemesis000000 Also see "The Story of Stuff" video. It's WAY more important to REDUCE and REUSE than to recycle, that's why it's the last of the Three R's.
HAHAHAHA The end fucking awesome....He's speechless.. xD
sagbaba 4 days ago
Q: What about when our landfill space runs out?
A: We launch the trash into Low Earth Orbit and it will eventualy fall and burn up.
Vierzbanator 1 week ago
your BS is BS
mogem 1 week ago
Ok I like to learn the truth and though this is kinda depressing. Ok ok so we stop recycling plastic and paper (RECYCLE ALUMIUM AND METAL cause metal is good) but makes me want to find something to do with the waste. Can we burn all the recycled paper for energy?
Fu3R4 2 weeks ago 2
@Fu3R4 There are biowaste generators. The main thing is they mention subsidies for recycling, but not the subsidies for generating commodities in the first place. I imagine if you cut all subsidies for commodities, you'd then make it beneficial to recycle for a lot more materials.
Waywardpaladin 1 week ago
@Fu3R4 It will decompose and produce useful methane gas.
mrrobotica 5 hours ago
I have to disagree on the landfill point. It might be veryyyy gradual...we might have room NOW, but they are thinking in the terms of the next few generations. Think in terms of thousands of years, not tens of years. Yeah, you might not care because we won't be here, but it WILL add up. Furthermore, it's not quite as simple as putting the nation's trash in a 35 mile fill- that won't happen. Have you SEEN our coasts? You can find garbage EVERYWHERE-and where does it come from? TRASH BARGES.
sonbuhitsunei 2 weeks ago
@sonbuhitsunei think in terms of thousands of years.
ok.
we store trash on another planet.
DIVAD291 2 weeks ago
Robotic vagina...
ihavevideoatoo 2 weeks ago
What the fuck is up with the related videos?
supmandude 3 weeks ago 23
Suggestion Videos: Robotic Vagina :)
KingLACity 3 weeks ago
Recycling plastic isn't about having cheaper plastic. These guys forgot to mention the floating plastic island in the pacific ocean. Also, I'd like to know how many landfills as spotless as the one they visited there are in America.
PktMma 3 weeks ago
@PktMma ...so what?
DIVAD291 2 weeks ago
The same arguments go for solar power vs oil. Oil is easy and abundant. Solar power is ineffecient, so governments spend money to create a fake market for it, so that an industry will grow around it.
The thing is, oil is abundant NOW. Governments are thinking ahead. When oil goes to hell, developed nations can either make sure they are already past it, or deal with a mess. Same with recycling. The current state is a warm-up. Not every resource will remain as abundant as today.
darkmater4tm 4 weeks ago
i love crapioca
thezombiekiller87 4 weeks ago
what about the landbases we steal from people like native americans to pilfer more recources needed to make more useless, ugly crap that litters our streets?
icspwnz 1 month ago
Out in the country, some cities have no trash system. People there just burn all their garbage. If you only use what you can burn, then you wouldn't need landfills and you wouldn't need to recycle.
GaaraLover1792 1 month ago
just do like in wall-E stack the trash higher then skyscrapers.
MrCaome 1 month ago
bullshit
WeAreGodzillaURJapan 1 month ago
my name is jay....FUCK!
jcudal32 1 month ago
i wish they would expose the electrical car. no electrical car has ever been built without oil. to produce just one cartire takes 26l of oil. a way is discovered to produce tires from bioisoprene however i would like someone to calculate how much fertile land would be needed to generate enough bioisoprene to produce just tires for the total amount of used cars in the world today
Dailydose13 1 month ago
@Dailydose13 No-one said it dosent take oil to produce, ofcourse it takes oil to produce tires, they are rubber which is made from oil, but the car dont run on oil.... seriously?
Ravenclth 1 week ago
@Ravenclth watch the 35min animation on youtube titled 'There's No Tomorrow' to better understand peakoil, peak resources and an economy based on perpetual growth
Dailydose13 3 days ago
So why isn't hemp(not marijuana) legal again?
pommyrooter 1 month ago
awsome vids!
restoremaz 1 month ago
There is a lot of room for improvement in recycling but I don't think that burying or burning is a sustainable solution at all, that's why we call it waste. Make recycling plastics an paper more efficient: /watch?v=61JSHwTF6j4
AdmiralRelativity 2 months ago
@AdmiralRelativity Did you even watch the video?
Thetarget1 1 month ago
Government Is just a bunch of control freak pussys who need to get stood against a wall and rapped for eternity. There all gonna burn in hell for this
ThorFan4Life 2 months ago
That bald pro-recycling guy is a complete idiot.
a2birdcage1 2 months ago
these guys are really good, but their entire tirade is poisoned by libertarian garbage. especially when the topic dosent even relate to libertarianism. its good facts, but then between these facts its, "bitch bitch bitch, government" "i hate the government this, the government is the cause of all evil blah blah blah" try sticking to topics.
cole3454657 2 months ago
@cole3454657 The show isn't about libertarianism. It's about exposing the truth on topics that we are constantly lied to about. At if you haven't realized it yet government is a major cause for the majority of these problems. It wouldn't make much sense to bring these topics to light without also discussing the reasons why they exist in the first place.
a2birdcage1 2 months ago
@a2birdcage1 i know the show is not about libertarianism, but they make it about libertarianism when the subject dosent even relate. im just saying they can give it a rest when it dosent apply. alot of the times what the government is doing is a fair comprimise between two sides and they use demagoguery to make it seem like its terrible when its not. otherwise its ahilarious show.
cole3454657 2 months ago
@eurohim
Uhhhhh...no, dude. If the price of gas rose due solely to "inflation by the Fed", we'd see EVERY price ALSO inflate JUST AS MUCH. So you'd expect that, as the price of gas fluctuated, the prices of Xbox games, for example, along w/the prices of EVERYTHING ELSE would fluctuate with it.
macgeek2004 2 months ago
Just wait till we master nanotechnology, so we can break garbage down to a molecular level and transform it into something useful!^_^
helljumpr5150 2 months ago
@helljumpr5150 like soylent green ^_^
twentyoneandsix 2 months ago
my city made new trucks for recycling, 3 ppl to a dump truck only now with the new trucks its one person with a mechanical arm... waste of gas, waste of time and actually is taking jobs not giving
XxSYCOSLAYER15xX 2 months ago
i wonder if he ever found his stapler in there
fooldeth 3 months ago
Oh, I see, some jobs are fake. The wages paid to people that goes into the economy is ... imaginary.
Thanks, fanatical libertarians. Where is the portal to the galaxy where libertarianism produces something other than the free market nightmare we're ALREADY living in?
Turtleproof 3 months ago
@Turtleproof Work for the sake of work is stupid. If you do not actually produce anything from work, it's nothing but charity with another label on it. It would make more sense to just send everyone who currently works in the recycling industry a check and shut everything down.
Jobs are the end product of economic policy. They are not the raw material. I know you've made a significant emotional investment in leftist policies, but you need to admit you were duped and wake up.
TheLastBrainLeft 2 months ago
@TheLastBrainLeft Why do you call it busy work that produces nothing when its product is turning trash into necessary, useable resources?
People with emotional investments into things generally make unfounded assertions and are lead to conclusions by sentiment rather than evidence, often saying things that are obviously false.
Turtleproof 2 months ago
@Turtleproof The jobs aren't "fake". They are just unnecessary. It doesn't make any more sense than just being on welfare, except that welfare checks don't pollute.
Thetarget1 1 month ago
meh, i recycle metals. glass, i try to avoid buying in the first place, but i usually store it, reuse it (holding nails, etc in my barn/shop) or just crush it up slightly and bring it to a center years from now. paper i save for weed suppressant around flower beds/garden. meat i just pitch outside and let dogs/wolves deal with it. anything else i compost.
maxdecphoenix 3 months ago 10
@maxdecphoenix Man, that's a great system. Sounds like you have some space, though, so that helps. I imagine apartment dwellers would have a harder time. I know the local metro area started a composting system, but they compost peanuts compared to what I do outside the city in my own yard.
EmilyDNelson 3 months ago
@EmilyDNelson yea, i have just over 2 acres. as far as apartment dwellers go, they have some options. worm composting is pretty much odor free if it's set up properly and can be done in a container not much larger than a shoebox. and could even grow a few things in window boxes. i couldn't live in a city. everytime i visit my bro in the burb's just outside of new orleans with not even 3 feet between houses, i don't know how he can stand it.
maxdecphoenix 3 months ago
Ok so recycling does not work for plastic and paper. It does work for metal. Does it work for glass? My guess would be yes, but that's just a guess.
blenderpanzi 3 months ago
They left out glass. What's the skinny on that? They kinda glossed over cans, and most of the recycling i do is of metal, which they admit makes sense.
aceg81 4 months ago
Burn all your trash with Bio-fuel... DUH!
Mammothviking 4 months ago
@Mammothviking Can dance around the fire and bang on drums in the process? =D
Lunabeam1 4 months ago
Press 9, repeat ad nauseum.
grokent 5 months ago
the wocal community haha
Bobby61189 5 months ago
I just throw my trash in the river
bswgd8 5 months ago 46
@bswgd8 lawls
marybob321 3 months ago
@bswgd8 XD
ryonafan 3 weeks ago
@bswgd8
i hope you drink the river water too.
Bigpussycat5 2 weeks ago
I live next to a landfill-turned-ski hill... Let's just recycle the landfills!
nightshadesk8r 5 months ago
hahahahahahahahaha whats with baldy at the start,sounds and looks like Elmer Fudd...fuckin classic
Bulldog1878 5 months ago in playlist More videos from Nicoaraeradu
Once we find a way to make massive renewable energy that will make it worth it to recycle all of our elements without pollution, then great. Until then we should be using landfills. Hopefully we can make those as environmentally friendly as possible until then.
MacabreManifesto 5 months ago 2
This is just one episode I don't agree with.
Aurorified 5 months ago
@Aurorified What part of it? IT seemed to be using lots of facts.
MasterAsra 5 months ago 2
@MasterAsra The whole thing basically, that recycling is bullshit. I don't think we need to recycle paper but recycling plastic makes sense. If it can be reused, why not recycle it? It's better than dumping it into a landfill.
Aurorified 5 months ago
@Aurorified Why?
TheLastBrainLeft 2 months ago
@TheLastBrainLeft Why what? I can't even find my last comment.
Aurorified 2 months ago
brilliant, simply brilliant
TheD0RKNIGHT 5 months ago
I was recycling in 1970 when I was 8 years old for the painfully simple reason that the Pepsi bottling company wanted the glass bottles back so they charged us for the bottles & gave us the money back when we returned them.
The government was not necessary because it wasn't stupid.
MrShoeguy 6 months ago
gotta say really enjoy this show they can always give a better perspective on whatever they decide to talk about
swat105 6 months ago
Glass and aluminum are cheap and cost effective to recycle and reclaim. Paper is renewable and will break down in a landfill w/out much pollution. Plastic can be bad. It can't break down. Microbes can't even break it down many version of plastics and trying to recycle it is still more expensive than raw production. The landfills of today are 10x's better than they were 50 years ago and there is ALWAYS room to make things better.
jimfath 6 months ago 8
@jimfath Not true, there are microbes that can indeed process plastics.
Butmunch666 6 months ago
@Butmunch666 Some... the research is still showing partial breakdowns at best. It's especially harsh in the ocean where marine microbes break down some of the chemical bonds but not all of them. This will take time to evolve. It will still take a long time for plastic to break down vs say corrugated cardboard or paper. I agree with you that Microbes can break down plastics.
jimfath 3 months ago
@jimfath It's a matter of what's a bigger problem; Land pollution (landfill) or air pollution (pollution caused to melt down non-biodegradable objects).
Money shouldn't come into this.
Money is what's preventing some countries from cutting down greenhouse gas bi-production.
scw55 2 months ago
@scw55 Junk science shouldn't come into this as well. It's moronic to worry about something that's just not definitive enough to fret over.
TheLastBrainLeft 2 months ago
@jimfath The reason recycling aluminum is cost effective is due to the expensive process of making usable aluminum. It's not smelted from ore, it must be processed chemically from the mineral bauxite, and it's a nasty chemical process to boot. After that, to make usable metal, gigantic electric kilns are needed to reach really hot temps. That takes gigawatts of electricity. That's my aluminum, already in a metal form is so cost effective to recycle.
TheLastBrainLeft 2 months ago
@jimfath Actually it does break down, it just takes more time than other organic products. I've heard it should be around a thousand years. That sounds like a very long time, but for the Earth it is actually very fast.
Thetarget1 1 month ago
Water vapor is the most abundant greenhouse gas. We need Water Credits!
TheRealTaco87 6 months ago
It's good stuff guys, you only have to pay close attention to where it's aimed. While most of what has been said in the show might be true and valid for US citizens, it doesn't work worldwide or for people in other countries. Landfills doesn't have all those regulations everywhere, other countries might not have that much space, not all paper comes from treefarms in other countries, etc. Also, only because it's a waste of money today, doesn't mean it will always be.
XSportSeeker 6 months ago
I get money for bringing in cans and bottles, so ... works for me :D
TheDeadApple 6 months ago
Fuck yeha, Use landfills to produce energy <3
enkopingsbo 7 months ago in playlist Penn and Teller's Bullshit
Using landfills to produce energy has me sold, this is better than wasted effort in recycling
shimauma 7 months ago in playlist Penn and Teller's Bullshit
Maybe we could just stop consuming so much shit in the first place.
borednerd74 7 months ago
P&T also like to quote the Competitive Enterprise Institute, which is a right-wing, anti-government, anti-regulation, lobbyist group. Of course they're going to say a bunch of bullshit about how recycling is bad. They also messed up on the information regarding deforestation. They said there are MORE trees now than in the 1920s (or some crap like that) but the truth is that over 1/2 of the forests in the world have been cleared out in the past 50 years. More of P&T's bullshit!
stockscout79 7 months ago
@stockscout79 They don't deny that rainforest is being cleared. But it's not being cleared in the name of logging and paper production; it's being cleared because people in South America need land to live on. Our paper is not being made from loggers; it's being made from renewable farms. There absolutely ARE more trees now than there were a century ago.
cyanmanta 6 months ago
This was pure bullshit on P&T's part. They keep talking about how it costs $8 billion per year to recycle, well that equals $27 for every man, woman, & child every year or break it down for each week (since the recycling truck comes by each week), it breaks down to about .50 cents every week to recycle. BFD!!!
In regards to the safety of the liners of the landfills, there are numerous stories of where landfills HAVE leaked and toxic sludge has oozed out, or water supplies are poisoned, etc.
stockscout79 7 months ago
@stockscout79 Well, then they should clean up the damage caused by those particular landfills and push for better regulation of landfill sites. Just because one condom in 100 is likely to break, doesn't mean we should stop selling condoms. Just do your homework and make sure the waste management departments are doing theirs. I know it's trendy to lash out against anyone who disagrees with you as being "right-wing", but it makes the term essentially meaningless. Calm down.
cyanmanta 6 months ago
@stockscout79 Old ones, which were not engineered to modern environmental standards. The irony is no one wants new landfills, but new landfills are the cleanest way to dispose of trash.
TheLastBrainLeft 2 months ago
@TheLastBrainLeft People pitching new landfills should tell people it actually produces energy!
redassassian 1 month ago
Poor Reagan!.
halopipe 7 months ago
what about the hundred of years it takes for plastic to decompose?
Unclesamslair 7 months ago
LOL W. Wrongy Wrongenstine. I'm gonna have to use that.
xxMarquis2 7 months ago
The idea behind this episode is OK, but they should've done their homework better. They only mentioned aluminium, but it's not the only thing worth recycling. Of course, paper isn't one of them (if we "grow" it on tree farms).
Some polymers should be recycled, and some shouldn't, and really could be burned to gain energy, just like oil from which they were made.
Most metals should be recycled. There are some really toxic ones that you just can't contain, like mercury.
endimion17 7 months ago
@endimion17 It's still cheaper to mine iron ore and make steel from scratch than it is to collect, process and re-use existing metal objects. Same with plastic. It'll never biodegrade. So what?
TheLastBrainLeft 2 months ago
@TheLastBrainLeft "Worth" isn't just about money, it's about energy, too.
endimion17 2 months ago
i lived 8 miles from a landfill for 20 year and i didn't even know till 18 years in. i past this thing twice a week in the summer every year, and it still took my 18 years to realize it was a fucking landfill.
LokiEarth 7 months ago
I am a fan of P&T, but this was by far the least compelling episode of this show I've seen. Hardly any evidence is given for the claims; the main argument they fall back on is that it costs a lot of money and paper recycling causes more trees to be grown and consequently harvested. No mention of petroleum products or other resources. I wish they had actually done research instead of just interviewing the one anti-recycling expert.
ameisens 7 months ago
@ameisens Um, dude, read the credits more carefully. Each assertion was researched and attributed to a legitimate source.
TheLastBrainLeft 2 months ago
What about saving natural recources? Not trees, more among the lines of oil, for making plastic. They even specifically said recycling plastic was a waste.
Am i missing something, or just being dumb?
ElectricSheep10 7 months ago
@ElectricSheep10 What about the oil and other resources needed to complete the recycling process.
It's not like you put a plastic bottle in a container and it magically becomes a new bottle. They need to use machines to break it down and process, those machines are built from metal, they have a life span, and need to have parts replaced from time to time, they use electricity generated by burning oil or coal.
The point is, it takes MORE resources in the recycling process than making one new.
sleeplesson 7 months ago
@sleeplesson Ah, I see, thank you.
ElectricSheep10 7 months ago
@ElectricSheep10 You're missing something. We have enough trees, more now than ever before, and plastic recycling requires an expensive process. It makes more sense to just landfill the plastic and let it remain undecomposed forever.
TheLastBrainLeft 2 months ago
@TheLastBrainLeft More trees now then ever before? Yeah because a sapling for an oak equals a 500-years-old giant redwood...
Ravenclth 1 week ago
PORN(er)
Ryagful 8 months ago
i live not even 3 miles from a land fiil and the slaughter house mile from my house smells more
Jayson10th 8 months ago 2
I thought those three arrows going in a constant circle looked a little monotonous
FaidleyEthan 8 months ago
Simply a longer, unexposed version of this video: Penn and Teller - Slight of Hand
jasendorf 8 months ago
" it's an issue of control " DING DING DING DING DING DING!!!
fjordking 8 months ago
This episode never explained how recycling plastic bottles is WORSE for the environment than making new ones. In penns own words: "the lesser of two evils is still evil". Simply saying that recycling plastic is more expensive isn't taking in the whole picture. Plastic bottles and bags are a disaster. If it cost money to keep them out of the environment, so be it. In australia, the same truck is used for general waste and recyclables, so the transport point is moot. Unimpressive.
BreaksFast 8 months ago
@BreaksFast It may be the same truck, but the trash propably isnt going to the same place..
SchutzFi 8 months ago
@SchutzFi All waste collected is taken to a waste transfer station, from there it is taken to either landfill or recycling stations. It doesn't matter whether it is rubbish or recycling, it ALL HAS TO BE TRANSPORTED. The landfills are always in places far away from the community. There really is no extra transport involved for recycling, rather the opposite.
BreaksFast 8 months ago
@BreaksFast Fine, then landfill it all and eliminate the wasteful sorting and processing. Garbage trunks can drive right into a landfill, dump it's cargo, and the process is DONE.
TheLastBrainLeft 2 months ago
@BreaksFast Landfilling keeps plastic (and everything else put in it) "out of the environment. And why is plastic a disaster? Do you have some pertinent fact to offer in defense of this statement, or are you (like I used to) simply regurgitating propaganda crafted especially for the benefit of a select few?
TheLastBrainLeft 2 months ago
This episode never explained how recycling plastic bottles is WORSE for the environment than making new ones. In penns own words: "the lesser of two evils is still evil". Simply saying that recycling plastic is more expensive isn't taking in the whole picture. Plastic bottles and bags are a disaster. If it cost money to keep them out of the environment, so be it. In australia, the same truck is used for general waste and recyclables, so the transport point is moot.
BreaksFast 8 months ago
Wow, that's actually very eye-opening. But honestly, I'm just gonna keep recycling. It's a gut feeling that tells us to recycle that's been around since school and the government started telling me this shit.
mjgamerboy 8 months ago 2
Some towns actually made it illegal to not recycle? If that happens to where I live I'm suing the cops that bust me for trespassing disturbing the peace and police brutality (because they might think I'm a violent asshole). And all this coming from a 16 year old. I should become a lawyer
jpeasey1 8 months ago
Methane is a green house gas, so theres still a problem
arru23 8 months ago
@arru23 You should watch the Global Warming Episode.
Nicoaraeradu 8 months ago 67
@Nicoaraeradu skepticalscience dotcom /argument.php
arru23 7 months ago
@Nicoaraeradu They admit in the global warming episode that it is still unknown if there is an impact made by methane or c02 emissions at the end of the episode so I'd rather not use that as an excuse to say there's no problem.
shotgunreaper 7 months ago
@Nicoaraeradu They've never said global warming isn't real.
FatherTime89 6 months ago
@Nicoaraeradu Let's just believe everything on profit driven TV shows that are broadcasts for entertainment value where the one sided commentary uses curse words and humor as a means to drive a point. That's where the real news is.
tidedragon 5 months ago
@tidedragon Why do you assume the people viewing this show automatically adopt all the viewpoints of the show? So quick to jump to extremes Mr. Detergentlizard.
TheDmo22222 5 months ago
@TheDmo22222 For the same reason every AGW alarmist reacts so positively to every bullshit global warming study and so negatively to anything that casts doubt. It's called confirmation bias. Everybody suffers from it, to a varying extent.
TheLastBrainLeft 2 months ago
@tidedragon Replace "curse words and humor" with "words used out of context and fear" and ur describing every corporate news media. This is not one sided commentary, they clearly present both sides to the argument and side with the one that doesnt waste billions of dollars in tax money, saves energy, lowers pollution, and simply put..isn't a total fucking scam. but hey youre a real free thinker you rebel! how you buy into the bullshit belief that billions of other willfully ignorant subscribe to
PrairieDon1021 4 months ago
@Nicoaraeradu You should go to school.
RedDaVincy 4 months ago in playlist More videos from Nicoaraeradu
@arru23 Bullshit
rcman123 7 months ago
@arru23 did you even finish watching the episode?
atomicamu 5 months ago
@arru23 Did you not see the fact that they collect the methane?
guyfromdubai 5 months ago
@arru23 huh? But it's a by-product of decomposition... so, methane production is a naturally occuring phenomenon. We can't stop the production of methane... because we don't recycle discarded food. Not all greenhouse gases are bad (assuming man-made global warming exists or is an issue).
HillChris1234 3 months ago in playlist More videos from Nicoaraeradu
I didn't rage until I heard "mandatory recycling". It always come down to that, doesn't it? Being forced by bullshit laws, and that's with just about everything. I'm sure my grandkids will think I'm a super badass (or just an asshole) when I tell them how I smoked tobacco in a public place, or killed an animal with a legally owned firearm just for sport and then later threw that empty ammunition box right in the fucking trash can and it was completely legit.
seanThree16 9 months ago 3
recycling is evil, it seens.
Franciscavid 9 months ago
why is it that when working for a recycling plant the jobs are bad, but working for walmart, and being paid less is good?
eun0ia 9 months ago
@eun0ia Because Wal Mart work is productive, and the salaries come out of wealth created, now wealth appropriated from taxpayers. That's the flaw with liberal economic policy, they don't know how to create wealth, they are just obsessed with re-distributing the wealth which already exists.
TheLastBrainLeft 2 months ago
that chick looked like she was about to vomit with that fat pig behind her.
Is it any wonder that a fat guy that doesn't take care of himself and gorges food would have a problem with reusing waste?
He never addressed metals or glass, both of which are more expensive to create from scratch. All the reused materials save energy from using raw materials despite his constant claim otherwise.
But the main thought here is that natural resources are not indefinite. Just see $5 gas.
YTSparty 9 months ago
@YTSparty He never addressed metals or glass, both of which are more expensive to create from scratch. All the reused materials save energy from using raw materials despite his constant claim otherwise.
He actually says it is cheaper to recycle cans and he brings up the point to include metal he says that the items where you can make money recycling people will do it. Where I live if you put anything metal by the side of the road by the time the sun goes down someone would have picked it up.
Amills11 9 months ago 2
@YTSparty Have you ever considered that the price of oil is denominated in US dollars worldwide, that the price of oil is determined on a world market, and that the Fed's recent "printing" and giving away of trillions of dollars might have driven down the value of the dollar in terms of real goods (such as oil)?
jmelkis 9 months ago
@YTSparty Actually he did address metal: specifically Aluminum. Did you miss it?
SCROGY 8 months ago
@SCROGY He said that people are making a profit off it. So, we should be paid for recyling aluminum. Not pay for it. But he didn't really address the energy of mining and smelting of metals.
TheLukeStein 8 months ago
@TheLukeStein He said that recycling aluminum was the one thing that made sense because it is cheaper that making new cans. And people do get paid if they collect cans and take them to designated places for payment. Were you even paying attention to the video?
Bangoo21 8 months ago
@Bangoo21 Yea. Don't be a dick.
TheLukeStein 8 months ago
@TheLukeStein We ARE, in the form of the nickel you get for returning your empty aluminum cans. Aluminum is incredibly expensive to produce and that makes it an outlier in the debate of the waste of recycling.
TheLastBrainLeft 2 months ago
@YTSparty Priced in silver, gas is cheaper than it has ever been. It's called inflation. When you print money, and inflate it more using fractional reserve banking, the value of all the money in the system goes down.
eurohim 3 months ago
@YTSparty Yes he did, and you are wrong. Except for aluminum, no recycling of any specific material costs less than making it from scratch. I am sure you sincerely read something that conflicts with this statement, which goes to the core of the problem: mushy unsophisticated minds and targeted propaganda.
TheLastBrainLeft 2 months ago
@TheLastBrainLeft Really? Only alumnium? So all that steel that is recycled at junkyards, is more expensive that mining iron ore? If it's such a loss, then why are there cardboard boxes made of recycled paper? Just for the fun of it? And the temperature to recycle glass is less than blazing sand. Let me guess, gold is cheaper to mine than sell as well, right? Yeah, who has the mush mind, really?
xxdrewzooxx 2 months ago
@xxdrewzooxx only aluminium and glass make sense... the solution is to stop using plastics (as much as we can...)
maximilianitoaguirre 1 month ago 2
9:12 Those fucking lucky bastards!!!
DemonAMVs 9 months ago
this show has been on for 7 season! what a load of bullshit. man, americans are dumb. who would listen to the guy who used to announce tv shows for comedy central tell people his opinion.
swansong200 9 months ago
@swansong200 What does his former job have to do with his being correct? If he's right he's right. His former job has no bearing on that fact.
SCROGY 8 months ago
@SCROGY he IS wrong. and people are dumb for believing him.
swansong200 8 months ago
@swansong200 Please elaborate. You made the claim, now the onus is on you to provide evidence.
SCROGY 8 months ago
Hey you 2 fucking psycos, what it´s your smart answer to what to do with the fucking waste? justo because you in your country have a lot of land you can make layers of trash in a big place??!! and because according toU there´s a lot of trees is ok to chop them down?? areU republicasn or something?
PaholaGreen 9 months ago
@PaholaGreen Um, I think you forgot to watch the video.
einirr 9 months ago
@PaholaGreen Are you an idiot or something? Did you bother watching the video?
NRPBrute 9 months ago
I used to dislike this crude and vulgar Penn dude. After watching his exposure of the concocted recycling 'movement', I now like and respect him. Keep it up.
doubleghod 10 months ago 2
WOW. Very eye-opening.
ihatefurrys 10 months ago
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TravisVadon 10 months ago
@TravisVadon You realize there's trash cans right? If those people aren't going to use them, they aren't going to use recycling bins. Recycling is not an answer to street litter. How did those 2 thoughts even intersect? Use logic.
Those companies need to be prosecuted and use landfills. Criminal companies shouldn't be the catalyst bringing regulation to law abiding companies.
I'll trust science and engineering before a news headline. The boogeyman isn't a methane monster.
Don't panic.
Vitoro50 10 months ago 33
@Vitoro50
too bad govt. fucked up those two divisions though. its more glamorous to be a buisnessman or a politican or an entertainer than an engineer or a scientist. as we grow older and we gain knowledge of finance people tend to lean away from those two divisions.
kumar01234 6 months ago
@TravisVadon the thousands of tons of plastics, aluminum and styrofoam even if it is a 1 million [1000000] tons it would still be an absolutely tiny amount compared to the 210billion [210,000,000,000,0] tons that america produces each year.as for the storys you talk "deadly methane gas kills 5" and"family died from methane gas" listen to this "Man killed in recycling plant blast ' one man injured and another dead at recycling plant" and "Woman killed in recycling truck tragedy"
MrLoganloganlogan 10 months ago
I feel like her assessment that that sized landfill would fit 1000 years of garbage is based on constant numbers. The population will probably grow larger and the size will have to grow. I still don't think it will be that big of a deal, but it's just a thought.
alexvlk 10 months ago
@alexvlk Population growth is largely believed to level off over the coming years and eventually decline leaving the population max at around 9 billion for a looong time to come. Besides, if most of that garbage decomposes, leaving only the plastics and such, there's really nothing we have to worry about.
yousefamar 10 months ago
@alexvlk No, it was adjusted for accepted increases of population. Any study not doing so would be laughed off the air.
TheLastBrainLeft 2 months ago
atleast i can make money of it
laoag357 10 months ago
@twocentsCanada My school got a hold of that video and, I shit you not, instituted a recycling program.
darkalleyheroes 10 months ago
It's more important to REDUCE and REUSE items - see video "The Story of Stuff". The issues not really mentioned in this story are considering the cradle to grave aspect of items produced, with total costs involved. Whatever we do, we need to consider our global impact. This story also left out another reason not to recycle plastic, because although diversion rates might seem high, much of the plastic is NOT recyclable, & ends up in landfills anyway! Documentaries about this are available.
twocentsCanada 10 months ago 2
Great!!!! ... the new to get slaves?...
chronoscorpio 10 months ago
But... but.... who wants to play at a park built over a landfill?
And how many years does that methane gas leak into our atmosphere?
And does anyone want to also tell me how that effects the animals who may (or may NOT!) choose to live in a place that had once been a landfill?
maehlers 11 months ago
@maehlers Methane is colorless and odorless, so the animals won't know it's there. Landfills have to have vents to release the methane as it's produced. It may explode if a lot of it is generated without being released. Of course if they use the methane to produce energy, it doesn't make a lot of sense to let the methane escape to the atmosphere. Also deer, elk, cows and goats produce methane during their digestion.
BrazilianDude1080 10 months ago
"W.Wrongy Wronginstein"
that is a great name!
ontariobuds 11 months ago 3
Man, I'm a skeptic and I always thought I didn't believe any bullshit.... but I had no idea recycling was bullshit! First time I've felt indoctrinated... from as early as I can remember society gave me the wrong idea.
Nemesis000000 11 months ago 2
@Nemesis000000 Also see "The Story of Stuff" video. It's WAY more important to REDUCE and REUSE than to recycle, that's why it's the last of the Three R's.
twocentsCanada 10 months ago 2
That girl Angela is kinda hot.