The ones to watch are Clinton and Obama. With so called friends like that we don't need enemies. He opposed the Iraq invasion then claimed a great victory for America.
Better that we have a Republican looney in the White House than a weak vassilating Democrat.
Must say the Argentinians started this one... as much as I hate war. I feel in this case there was no choice. You cant just let people take your land with force.
@rionegrinoroca Thieving argentines stole the land of argentina from the indigenous native americans but failed to steal the British Falklands from the Falkland Islanders. .
@EddieExile porque no dices que son unos colonialistas ,argentina lucho con coraje contra uds con el apoyo de ee uu y los cobardes chilenos que los ayudaron........
UN is “Deeply disturbed at reports of an invasion on 2 April 1982 by armed forces of Argentina, and demands and immediate withdrawal of all Argentine armed forces from the Falkland Islands”
Argentina failed to comply with the UN demand and this entitled the UK to invoke Article 51 of the UN Charter, and respond to the Argentine invasion within the right of self-defence.
Argentina was wrong to invade and the UK was right to eject the invaders.
It is Argentina that is fooling around - not the UK - and if this leads to war it will be caused by Argentina - again - and I would be happy to be there to help put gobshite invading argies like you in their place - again -, if the UK nukes don't incinerate you first.
You're the fucking ignorant one, you cunt. What I said represents the truth, and the crap you spouted represents the propoganda of a desperate man. And he was desperate because he couldn't take by force a group of islands even though they are thousands of miles from the rest of British Sovereign territory. Our Navy and Air Force were too good for the Argentinian aggressors. We merely defended British Sovereign Territory against attack from a foreign power. What's wrong about that? TWAT!
@TimBrewin wow man we took the islands, but really go take a book, i clearly see you know a shit about your sunken ships, did you ever heard about woodward speeches, no the only thing you know is the shitty speech your goverment, but i see that not even your goverment can be so shitty liars, so you are a stupid ignorant, you to school ignorant, or give me some facts.
@Leogalvanhalen You're the fucking ignorant one, you cunt. What I said represents the truth, and the crap you spouted represents the propoganda of a desperate man. And he was desperate because he couldn't take by force a group of islands even though they are thousands of miles from the rest of British Sovereign territory. Our Navy and Air Force were too good for the Argentinian aggressors. We merely defended British Sovereign Territory against attack from a foreign power. What's wrong?
There is no such word as NEVER cos it always turns into maybe or someday ,its less than 100 yr since they said that the Titanic would never be found !!!
If the Argentinians care so much about "Las Malvinas" (or, as they are actually called, The British Falkland Islands), why did they bomb the hell out of them in the war, causing untold civilian, as well as British, casualties?
@TimBrewin WOW man tell me that you are a fucking ignorant, 'cause if this is another shitty speach of your goverment, then you all british are really fuck, THERE WEREN'T CIVILIAN CASUALITIES. Fuck your damn island. You islanders are really idiots. In the retake of the malvinas there were only one dead.
@Leogalvanhalen Three civilian casualties, 255 British Armed Forces casulaties, 649 Argentine Armed Forces casualties. Only 1 dead? Fuck your lack of facts, twat.
@TimBrewin we took it, you fucking ignorant, and the only casualty of it was giachino, ah yes and you believe in your fucking goverment, the one who say we were allies with russia, when we had a fascist dictature, and anti-comunist regimen, the ones who say there were only one gurkha casualty, yes your fucking english governors who had defeated god, him self, and create the world instead, your country is loaded with bullshit talkers like you.
@Leogalvanhalen fact 1) argentina invaded an autonomous (that is, self governing) overseas territory which CHOOSES to be a UK protectorate. fact 2) the UK went to exercise that protection. fact 3) the dead and injured on both sides and among civilians, were the fault of the argentines, regardless of whose bullets/bombs hit them. fact 4) if you start a war with a country that is more powerful than you are, you cannot then blame them for kicking your arse.
@TimBrewin you mean the 3 civilians deads? the ones who got killed by british fire? or what they tell you now, that our army killed them? i see you know a shit about this conflict, but if you want to know something, dont read a book, go and talk with a veteran.
@TimBrewin A veteran of WHAT??, 'cause you don't even know the basic of this conflict, how could it be? and if your uncle was a gulf veteran then go discuss with a muslim, not with me you fucking idiot, you dont even have one fact right. how your rulers mantain the kind of you??
@TimBrewin No i dont, i've never heard about him,.anyway, why should i? i'm not english, but there are not excuses for your ignorance about this matter, 'cause you really don't have any facts, even if your uncle was a malvinas vet, i see you know a shit.
@Leogalvanhalen I'm bored of this. You are the fucking ignorant one. They are not called Las Malvinas, they are called the Falkland Islands, and they are and always have been British, and always will be. Go back to your hole and rot in hell.
@Leogalvanhalen I'll question what I like. But I haven't been questioning anything on this site, just stating facts. You are the one who knows fuck all.
Malvinas, tierra cautiva, de un rubio tiempo pirata. Patagonia te suspira. Toda la Pampa te llama. Seguirán las mil banderas del mar, azules y blancas, pero queremos ver una sobre tus piedras, clavada. Para llenarte de criollos. Para curtirte la cara hasta que logres el gesto tradicional de la Patria. Ay, hermanita perdida. Hermanita, vuelve a casa.
Vernet was an entrepreneur not a governer who had obtained British permission to land a colony (of mixed nationality) in the British Falklands in 1826 and 1828, and he provided the British with regular reports. Vernet left in 1831 and never returned.
And when the British expelled the illegal United Provinces military (26 men who had landed illegally a few week before) from the British Falklands in 1833, the existing Vernet colonists remained.
@EddieExile Vernet was an apointed military and political commander of the islas Malvinas (Primer Comandante Político Militar de las Islas Malvinas) in 1829 by the Governor of Buenos Aires, Juan Lavalle. After your 1833 takeover, Argentine pawns led by gaucho Rivero rebelled against Brit opression and exploitation. From Aug. 26th 1833 to the final usurpation on Jan. 7th. 1834 the blue and white flag still flew in Puerto Argentino's mast. It would fly back again on the glorious Apr. 2nd. 1982
The United Provinces TRIED to appoint entrepreneur Vernet as 'commandant' of the British Falklands but this was rejected by the British authorities.
The BA flag was hoisted illegally on the British Falklands on 10th October 1832 but the illegal flag was removed by the British authorities on 3rd January 1833.
Rivero was simply a murderer who with 8 gauchos murdered 5 Vernet civilians in a dispute over Vernet payments . Rivero then betrayed the others and they were all arrested.
@EddieExile Alright chap. Yours are the heroes and mine are the villains. Like that fairytale? Rivero was a simple murderer? Sorry, I forgott that your own murderers, raiders and rapists are named "Sirs" (Drake, Morgan). When you usurp and set foot in what isn't yours worlwide, in fact you "legally claim" but when someone else recovers what is righfully theirs they "invade". Freedom fighters (i.e. EOKA) for you must be terrorists. What an anglo-saxon hypocrite you are !!! I am done with you.
@EddieExile You englishmen are living on land usurped and stolen from native indigenous Keltic people by anglo saxon invaders.
The Islas Malvinas were discovered by the Portuguese Estevao Gomes sailing in Spanish service in 1520. They were Argentine and although no more, in our hearts will always be.
In 1520, Estaban Gomez, the Portugese DESERTER and FORMER captain of one of Magellan's ships the San Antonio, is alleged to have sighted islands that MAY have been the British Falklands – but this was not documented, there is no evidence, and no record of a claim.
The UK consists of a mixture of anglo saxon and celtic countries who can choose independence if they wish - just like the British Falklands.
The British Falklands were never argentine and never will be.
@EddieExile I am well aware that kelpers do not want to be Argentinians. I also recognize that they desired to be and keep on being British in 1982. If the claim is based upon present human substractum I cannot denny any British argument. Historical heritage (transmission from Spain on to Argentina) and geographical (atlantic submarine platform) claims are the Argentine basis. Could always countries choose at their own will when to secede from the Empire? Anticolonialist wars are a fiction so?
The Falklands were uninhabited when first landed on named and claimed by British John Strong in 1690.
And the first British colony was created in 1765, long before Spain, and long before Argentina existed.
Underthe UNCLOS convention coastal states may claim their continental shelf for up to 200 nautical miles from shore - limited to half way between States with opposite or adjacent coasts.
The British Falklands are at least 250 nautical miles from Argentina.
In 1982, Peru and Venezuela sent critical aircraft spare parts to Argentina, Brazil leased two EMB111 Bandeirantes maritime patrol aircraft to the Argentine Navy, Peru sent 10 Mirage 5 with AS-30 missiles.
Russian journalist Sergei Brilev confirmed Russian satellite help for Argentina with former KGB and Red Army generals who confirmed that Moscow was tracking the Royal Navy around the Falklands during the war.
@EddieExile Why you always say shit? if we have had that satellite information, we would known you were coming towards the san carlos bay, so we would put the whole submarines mines there, we wouldn't have been in the need of recognition flights, the commodore carballo bombed one of our ships, how the hell would that possible happen if we have had that info. And with anti-communists dictatorship. You even had chineses on your troops. Fucking detractor.
@EddieExilethere were no chinese??, there are videos with chineses soldiers, most of the WHAT????? there were the tactical of low fly, that's why we sunk your ships, mind defet comfort. you are so idiot 'cause you know what i'm saying is true, but denies, i'm talking about respect here. Braves man gave their lives doing the imposible and fighting alone, for you to come here and tell shit.
You are confused with the Gurkha soldiers who are from Nepal but have served in the British army for hundreds of years,
But they did not fight a battle in the British Falklands because the argentine defenders on Mount William were scared of the Gurkhas and ran away before battle.
It is you posting shit.
And if you called a Gurkha chinese to his face - you would run away.
@EddieExile There were chineses eddie and the gurkhas were massacred in tumbledown, at 3 AM, 14 of june, no one of you ever herad of general wilson and the V brigade? the BIM 5, the argentinian air force, where did you get your info from wikipedia?, why dont you talk with some english veterans? you are disrespecting your people mine and yourself, but you always did, see this video. "Gurkha veterans' toughest battle", thats what you do with your vets. No respect from a moron like you ever.
As I said were NO Chinese troops - the Gurkhas are from Nepal (look it up) and did not fight a battle because the Argentines on Mount William ran away before battle
And there was NO Gurkha massacre - only ONE Gurkha was killed during the entire Falklands war - BUDHAPARSAD LIMBU - who died on 24 June 1982 while filling in a trench.
@EddieExile ONE GURKHA??????? all right all right then, who could possibly believe your delusions? you really don't understand the meaning of respect, many gurkhas, many brithis died on that conflict, more than you could imagine, and you treat this matters as if were some kind of football's chat, we are talking about humans life you idiot. WHAT AN HYPOCRITE ARE YOU CALLING ME TROLL.
@EddieExile Is it me? watch what you wrote, idiot, destroy with facts?, you are just a tatcher's believer, who doesn't even care if it's true what's saying, you think our veterans were blind?, you think we didn't knew to whom we were shooting at? or the amount, you can fool your people not mine, we have real persons who tells us the true history, not a stupid amount of lies. Go fool other one, you puppet.
@EddieExileI put you names, go back and see, fucking idiot, woodward, the letter of tinker and that's only to name some of your vets. Colonel seineldin, captain Robacio, and so on, you fucking idiot, you know a shit, you wikipedia and garbage believer, they were charging against a fortified area, how the fuking hell only one gurka died. Not even you could believe that
I've told you moron, the Gurkhas didn't charge against a fortified area because the argentines fled from their fortified area on Mount William before the Gurkhas attacked it.
Lol where do you get your facts from, the gurkas had 0 deaths in tumbledown and just a section worth of men injured. The battle's Main effort was focused around the Scots guards who lost 8 men but left half a company worth of aregntine troops dead.
@darffsodius well that's what you wnat to believe, Captian Robacio knows it all, along with major jaimet, general wilson spoke to captain robacio, they say that are not allowed to speak, more than that, there are a restriction by england to the research of the fact, so we have a history tell only by your goverment, now see this video "Gurkha veterans' toughest battle", this is the goverment to who you believe.
@EddieExile if what you will bring here is WIkipedia crab we are done. What about nuclear power in Britsh Navy and subs? What about the threat of bombing nucs in Cordoba? Had we any nuclear war head so as to strike back in Marble Arch? Is like David (Argentina) against Goliath (UK). Only difference is that God didn't show on our side this time.
I'm dealing in pure facts when I say that The Falkland Islands are a British Protectorate, and the Argentinian invasion was both unjustified and unjust.
@Baltetsi Don't be so fucking stupid - the Falklands were unclaimed in 1833 - they were occupied by another nation in 1982. Argentina was the unlawful agressor.
Watching this showed that on both sides, the soldiers were victims of a war, chosen by unpopular politicians to try get support at home. I don't know what happened to Argentine veterans, but there are now more UK veterans who have died by suicide than were killed in the war. Thatcher used the war to get another term in office, those who did the fighting were abandoned.
The day that politicians, and their children, have to lead the first attack is the day that wars will stop forever.
@Edgbarrow: excellent description. As per Argentine veterans, the figures show a double of deaths by suicide after the war than K.I.A. during the conflict. Thatcher used the war for her own purpose, the same way Galtieri and the decadent junta did. What I need to highlight is that during all my trips to the UK, people always showed respect to me as an Argentinian, no matter we discussed this topic and our countries were foes. Besides football rivalries, no need to have other. Hate is useless.
ths video is many memories the song is forever,,,simple as,no argument from me on any level...simply enjoy the music and remember the memory folks,,,we cannot change the past....what a song...
TimBrewin -serviceman or not bud, it shows your heart is in the right place and that you are a decent human being, the fact you can appreciate, how we feel and why we do what we do is enough in itself. I get so sad with those amongst the rest that can't see what we are talking about without trying to make a political view or score points, this is not what we are all about, we are just good honest simple squaddies, no more, no less.A song such as this is our lament not a glorification of us !!!
many thanks for your message, it is always nice to see some one (a fellow Serviceman) can understand my point of view, I am not trying to make any political views nor score points. TO the rest of you, that I may have annoyed/upset or what ever my apologies. To those of us that have served and in alot of cases are still serving, we do so because we felt it is our duty, we felt it right to serve and to protect those amongst the rest of the world that can/could not.
@FatboyfromIIPara I haven't served (nor will I - I'm too old for admisson now), but three of my 4 grandparents served in WWII. I cannot have any emotion towards members of the armed forces but respect and gratitude. Thank you all.
UN Resolution 1541 (XV) UN definition of what a colony is and what self determination is, also Principles determining an obligation or not to transmit the information called for on Article 73 e of the UN Charter Chapter XI.
Principle IV: There is an obligation to transmit information in respect of a territory which is geographically separate AND distinct ethnically and/or culturally from the country administrating it.
Shall white British citizens sent by Britain fall into this category?
Alot of you seem to have missed the point completely, I buried seven of my muckers on this cold but beautiful and barren piece of the Gt British Empire, regardless of who thinks they own it or those who actually do, we went down there to fight for something we believed in, can you guys just not accept that point and leave it as is, too many bad memories of friends who didnt make it home. Let them rest in peace for Gods sake.
@FatboyfromIIPara Cheers Para, Some will never understand.. and I really don't care if they do anymore.
Those that fight, do not do it for themselves or for the politicians' causes, they do it for the man/woman next to them in most cases. God Bless mate; from a US Marine to a brother in arms. God rest your mates.
LOL what are you talking about? "The British Empire"? Check it on Wikiepdia. Winston Churchill killed the Empire, he sold it to the USA in 1941. After World War II, England is just another tiny island - like the Malvines.
@TimBrewin In our hearts and souls Las Malvinas are indeed Argentinas. Why the surrender then? Because we were no match for a superpower like the UK, plus having the aid of the Americans and being the Argentinian military leadership a fully incompetent junta. Anyway, as years pass by, the heroism shown by 18-year-old argentine conscripts in Goose Green and the courage that the world recognizes to the Argentine Air Force (sinking Ardent, Sheffield, Atlantic Conveyor etc.) is out of question.
The entire argentine airforce was defeated by a few British seaplanes flying from 2 tiny carriers.
Argentines at Goose Green included rangers, commandos, and experience conscripts with at least a year’s experience from the previous year’s intake. They were the same age as the British and had months to dig in to heavily defended entrenched positions with heavy weapons and air defence personnel.
They numbered 1000 and surrendered to 500 British.
@EddieExile What you try to under rate, is not a just my personal opinion. In fact, it is what is taught in most international military institutions. No rangers in Goose Green. Rangers where in the 601 & 602 Companies that engaged in Top Malo House and Mount Wall. Goose Green's were conscript companies, with a year of training with overall leadership of Mohamed Seineldin. Difference in quantity was vastly overwhelmed by materiel and supplies. Julien Thompson's "No Picnic" is a great source.
Bravery and skills of Argentine pilots where remarked by the Brits too. They flew from the continent with only the ammount of fuel, enough for one mission and return. They flew sharp next to the sea so as not to be caught by radars. They dropped bombs that were in bad condition and never exploded. They damaged the Invincible. They gained world's recognition. Anyway, defeat was sealed by the incompetence of military leaders. Plus Argentina was no match for the UK plus the NATO aid.
The Argentines were reinforced from Mount Kent by Piaggio’s 12th Infantry Regiment and a company of the Ranger-type 25th Infantry Regiment.
The conscripts were from the previous years intake with at least a year’s training and months to dig into entrenched position with much more and better equipment than the British.
@EddieExile Piaggi's 12 and Seineldin's 25 conscripts had a much better training than the rest, true. But not "Ranger type". The only real ranger they had was their green beret. Some senior officers and NCO's had ranger instruction. Junior Officers were coursing their 4th. year in the Academy when they were comissioned. Plus, the sizes you cite are according to Brit sources. What if reading other? We are very proud of our task in Goose Green. We honour Lt. Estevez as you do with "H" Jones.
@Baltetsi The British then freed the 115 Goose Green civilians including babies and elderly people who the despicable Argentines had forcibly imprisoned in one hall for over a month with minimal facilities.
Jilian Thomson ' no picnic" was based on the British having to overcome the huge logistical disadvatages of operating 8000 miles from a home base.
@EddieExile Despicable Argentines? What's the difference with the despicable Brits? You are honorable and we are lousy? It is a childish argument. War shows horrendous aspect for everyone. Fortunately, many British war veterans that I met in the UK expressed other feelings, much more remarkable than yours. They showed respect. And I appreciate that. We Argentinians do face facts. We fought a war and lost. But we are proud of our struggle, because deep in our hearts LAS MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS.
The fact (from all sources) remains that the argentines were we’ll trained, well equipped and well dug into heavily defensive positions but were defeated by an attacking force half their size.
And the fact is that the Argentines forcibly imprisoned all Goose Green residents in the community hall for over a month - 115 people including 42 children, 1 four month old baby, and 2 people aged over eighty, with minimal food and facilities and only two toilets...
@EddieExile Argentines were well trained and well equiped. But the NATO pattern British army was better, and we lost. We fought bravely (maybe the toughest battle in the whole war) but we lost. We feel no shame and we recognize thet although our courage we no match for a superpower army with the satellite aid of the whole NATO and the Chilians. We will always honour our dead and we will always be proud of fighting for our far away soil, no matter this war was bad shaped from bone idle leaders.
...This was in direct breach of the Geneva Convention and lasted over 1 month until the British released the residents.
The residents then found that the Argentines had looted, vandalised and deliberately trashed and defiled their homes - defecating in the baths, beds and floors of those homes. This action was despicable.
If you are proud of this then you are deluded - as deluded and brainwashed as believing that the British Falkland Islands will ever become Argentine
@EddieExile I ain't proud with war crimes. Are you with the Amristsar massacre? Concentration camps in the Boer War ? Bloody Sunday ? Fancy that a Brit points out crimes. When ruling the world with the "Divide et Impera" policies you planted hate among people from different ethnicities in many colonies and dominions. Hate that turned into bloody wars when you were forced to leave (India, Cyprus, Africa). No matter what happens next, for me Cyprus will always be Greek as Malvinas are Argentinas
We are talking about the Falklands - although we could discuss the Spanish and Argentine genocide against the native Americans.
The UK is not a superpower and was only able to field a very small and lightly equipped force against the Argentine invaders.
And the UK fought alone with some US satellite info, but Argentina received Soviet satellite info and aircraft and parts from Peru, Venezuela and Brazil.
It was the British infantry who won that war against all the odds.
@EddieExile Stating that we recived Soviet assistance is beyond moronic. Do you know that one of the things fucken Galtieri is very criticized is that his Macarthysm prevented Argentina from received direct Russian help?Brand new MIGs with Russian pilots. He refused. Also he rejected Fidel Castro's offer of international brigades. Peru supported morally. Brazil's only help came via the Varig's pilot that radioed the coordenates where your fleet was passing. Should have sunk it all. Big mistake.
@EddieExile What an anglo-saxon decency. Offering civilization to colonies. How could those ungrateful bastards worldwide fight against the queen !!! Malvinas never Argentina? Did you know Luis Vernet, the island's governor from 1820 to 1833? Did you know the population comprised Argentine gauchos, mapuche and charrua indians ? Did you know that under the leadership of Antonio Rivero they rebelled against the British usurpers in 1833. Today's kelpers may be British. MALVINAS ARE ARGENTINAS.
@Baltetsi in a lot of that statement you are talking total rubbish. Yes the Argentine pilots were brave, and were good stick and rudder men, but their skills as military pilots were very lacking. The Bombs didn't explode because they were not dropped correctly, not because of their age. Only the Mirage III and Daggers couldn't be refuelled in flight, the Super Etendard ans Skyhawks could be and were. HMS Invincible was never attacked by Skyhawks on 30 May 82, They attacked HMS Avenger & missed!!
@Baltetsi Sorry to butt into this conversation. Las Malvinas are not Argentinian, and never will be again. The UK (speaking as a Brit) hasn't been a superpower since before WWII. We had no aid from the Americans or anyone else, and we won a heroic victory, freeing imprisoned civilians in Goose Green, 8000+ miles from home. How dare you detract from that, you cunt?
@SuperPrivate2011 Who detracted what, you analpha? I am honouring my own soldiers that bravely fought at Goose Green. You do the same with yours. No aid from the NATO ? Pitty most courses in military academies WORLDWIDE show contrary. Compare equipment, watch the images on videos, read testimonies. We were no match against you (plus, we had awful leadership) and lost. No matter maps describe Falkland Islands (UK). For us Malvinas will always be Argentinas. This way we honour our fallen.
@TimBrewin in 1982 which was NATO's first power? The USA. Which was the second ? The UK. Was Argentina match for the UK in terms of military ? Certainly not. That's my point.
@FatboyfromIIPara I will always respect the British military, as three of my grandparents were involved in WWII for the RAF and the Army. The proudest two days of my life have been the days when I have been lucky enough to be in Rememberance Parades as part of St John Ambulance. I am sorry for my part in invoking bad memories for you. Big respect to you and every one of the British Armed Forces involved. RIP the Fallen.
for all the wars that have gone those going on now& those to come in our childrens lives mark your song will remain timeless& so poignant of the futility of war&those who have given their lives for their belief that they can change the world'. souxie.
The Falklands are one of the very few remaining parts of British Sovereign Territory. As such, one of the last (if not the last) remaining outpost of the British Empire. However, they will always be remebered as the last resting place (before salvage operation) of the SS Great Britain - possibly the finest of Isambard Kingdom Brunel's many masterpieces. RIP isambard Kingdom Brunel.
So much vitriol over a beautiful song which remembers both sides of this war and I am a British Veteran. Shame on those who feel the need to slag off either side and I would wager none of you have EVER been to war and seen what it does. Grow up, the lot of you.
to fuck them Argentinians, was somehow like the Indians, Egyptians, " Negro countries" with your 15 poundered guns , against arrows and spears...Fuck you, Brits.
You`ll never got Ireland and You`ll never get it. Fucking hooligans you are, with no culture.Greetings from Messerschnitt-Country.Awaiting the next round.
no sandy ,im all set , got meself a real life daisy duke yankee , superb , only prob have to go back to london/bagdad every 5 years to renew me visa , wheres all the cheeky cockneys gone? ,hotel run by a turk , boozer run by a russian , need hitler back to flatten the place and start again lmao
@boll0cks45 i prefer north east england myself mate - we dont really suffer much from immigration here. few poles dotted about, odd asian shopkeeper thats about it.
ANY MUSLIM WHO IS SEEN TO DO OR WANT DO ANY ACTS OF VIOLENCE IN GREAT BRITAIN .SHOULD BE DEPORTED ALONG WITH HIS/HER FAMILEY TO THE SHITHOLE THEY CAME FROM.IM NOT BNP/OR EDL ,JUST A ORDINARY JOE SICK OF HAVING THE PISS TOOK OUT OF A COUNTRY A GENERATION DIED FOR.
@2815andy You foget your country's history in other lands. They raped, pillaged and plundered. Yes, all in the name of God and country. In most of the countries that the Brits partitioned there is trouble. The occupiers are not wanted by the majority. And those who do want them, are only interested in having the power for themselves, and to hell with the indigenous people.
@TheEriskay that was then this is now.i stand by what i said.i repeat im not racist .but there needs to be a line in the sand drawn and nows the time.any immigrants not happy with western policys or cultures should up sticks and fuck off.no more babysitting
@TheEriskay Yes, we had a terrible history of sponsoring the rule of law in countries whose home grown dictators have since found it inconvenient to maintain.
@TheEriskay Am I supposed to defend the worst excesses of the Colonial Era now? Point me to a peer nation of Britain's that has a better history - you'd better not try Italy, France, Belgium and you'd REALLY better not try Spain or Portugal.
As for claims of racism I give you the Moroccans in France, the Turks in Germany, the Surinaam and Germans in Holland... I could go on, but I think you can see my argument. You display a general criticism of Europe as being peculiarly anti-British.
@TheEriskay Sadly since the abandonment of the Confucian principles of government there hasn't been what one might term a truly moral government. Realpolitik specifically mandates against morality as the prime motivator in political decisions compared to expediency and effectiveness.
Every government believes that the ends justify the means.
As for the old British Empire, I think history will judge it to be the most progressive of its kind. Certainly more so than the US not-Empire.
@TheEriskay And apparently English history will always be portrayed in a negative light by people called TheEriskay who live in the USA. As the citizen of a democratic nation I would have thought that you, at least, would have found the wishes of Islanders themselves to be more compelling than a very brief and unsuccessful period of occupation hundreds of years ago.
Ah well - our prejudices must be written on our tongues. We always display them best when we open our mouths.
@hogalog Well, America might well be more committed to the Democratic Principle than Democratic Practice, but it's still hard to compare anyone short of Pol Pot to Galtieri and not have them coming out looking like Gandhi.
But the point is that you can debate the rights and wrongs of the two governments until the cows come home - but when Argentina invaded the islands with a mind to seizing the property and person of the legal inhabitants they put themselves in the wrong. The rest is machismo.
@TheEriskay im pretty sure most of those countries which we have since left (such as india, south africa) wouldnt be anywhere near as well developed without the british having been there.... and i bet the people of iraq and zimbabwe to name but 2 probably wish we had never left. aye britain ruled the world and exploited these countries, but the majority of the people in them actually gained from british rule. britain also ended the slave trade. you conveniently forget these points.
@TheEriskay so would india be going through the growth and development it currently is, without the british having gone in there 300 years ago? would they shite as like, theyd still be wearing loin cloths and hunting their dinner.
this is from a time when english ment something,respect to every british soilder that got killed for england and the english way,i have 2 white pure english sons, if they think they are going to join the british army to protect the british way of life i will slit throuts myself,they are not going to put there life on the line for this country while paki suiside bombers live here,claiming there human rights to live here,FUCK YOU you smelly paki fuckers9(and you do smell)OLD ENGLAND
In 1910, a 17,000-word memo was commissioned by the British Foreign Office to look at the historical dispute over sovereignty. The study highlighted many weaknesses in the British case. The head of the Foreign Office's American department, Gerald Spicer, wrote: "From a perusal of this memo it is difficult to avoid the conclusion that the Argentine government's attitude is not altogether unjustified and that our action has been somewhat high-handed."
21 June 2011 - UN Decolonization Committee approved other resolutions submitted for the General Assembly’s adoption. By the first, The General Assembly would call on the administering Powers to finalize a programme of work on a CASE-BY-CASE basis for the Non-Self Governing Territories.
The UK has 80% of territories on the UN list of 16 Non-Self Governing Territories, which certainly are very different cases.
Only Malvinas/Falklands and Gibraltar are under sovereignity dispute with the UK.
The UN Decolonization Committee today adopted a consensus resolution reiterating that the way to end the “special and particular” colonial situation in Malvinas is through peaceful, negotiated settlement of the sovereignty dispute between Argentina and the UK. By the terms of the text, introduced by Chile’s representative, the Committee regretted that, despite widespread international support for negotiations, longstanding General Assembly resolutions on that question hadn't been implemented.
f I had invaded English land, told my sons that they were Argentinian living in Argentine territory and make them follow through that line of argument for 178 years, would you support my refusal to discuss sovereignity issues? Even if Enlgand complained since day one? Even if it breaches several UN Resolutions? Would you accept if I simply say 'it's argentine territory, end of the story?'. Would you support the 'self-determination' of my family and heirs to the territory?
Do you all know that yesterday an islander born in Malvinas, son of an islander who fought in the conflict of 1982, became an Argentine citizen? He was born in the islands in 1968 and as you all know, the islands are Argentine territory and are part of the Government of Tierra del Fuego so naturally, he applied for the argentine nationality since he is an argentine citizen after all.
Get used to this: Malvinas Argentinas y Sudamericanas.
@brigham600 In your OPINION I am 'racist',you ONLY say that because I'm White
Anti-racism is a codeword for Anti-White
You CLAIM to be a ex-soldier and a veteran
Soldiers fight for the future of their country and to keep the children safe.No true British soldier would give away British children's country to 3rd Worlders.If you weren't fighting for Britain and British children then you are nothing but a mercenary
Who gave YOU the right to give away British children's inheritance to 3rd Worlders ?
@brigham600 Nobody is flooding Asian countries with non-asians to create a 'melting pot' of mixed up 'blended humanity' and telling people who object 'I am white, but not a racist bigot like you.'
Nobody is flooding Black countries with non-blacks to create a 'melting pot' of mixed up 'blended humanity' and telling people who object 'I am white, but not a racist bigot like you.'
You are what Christians call 'Judas',what Blacks call 'Uncle Tom' and everyone else calls TRAITOR
@brigham600 Sir, would you go back to the fight if it's necessary? do the british believe in that cause? do they know what really hapened? I mean the young ones, do they care?? do you belive in the british right over the malvinas??
@Leogalvanhalen britain doesnt rule the falklands. it never did, it is self governing. britain just protects it. and for what its worth, it has far more right than argentina. the falklands have been a british protectorate since before argentina even existed, so why should we hand over their freedom just because its a few miles closer?
@hogalog I'm not here to argue, I not even asked for your opinion, the malvinas was illegally usurped in 1833 to the already formed argentina nation, but i understand, you think you have right and I think we have the rights. It useless discuss about that, no one gonna change about the opinion, so have a good day, i dont want your opinion.
Argentinian kids being taught about the Falklands must be like the North Koreans being told they won the last world cup...
writerdave87 1 week ago
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gavalos70 1 week ago
The ones to watch are Clinton and Obama. With so called friends like that we don't need enemies. He opposed the Iraq invasion then claimed a great victory for America.
Better that we have a Republican looney in the White House than a weak vassilating Democrat.
vangelovan 4 weeks ago
british armed forces, HEROES ALL OF THEM.
MrBruprice 1 month ago 2
Must say the Argentinians started this one... as much as I hate war. I feel in this case there was no choice. You cant just let people take your land with force.
TheSelfishAltruist 1 month ago
nosotros no,uds
robando territorios por todo el planeta
rionegrinoroca 4 weeks ago
@rionegrinoroca Thieving argentines stole the land of argentina from the indigenous native americans but failed to steal the British Falklands from the Falkland Islanders. .
EddieExile 3 weeks ago
@rionegrinoroca why do you speak spanish to people that clearly speaks english...
which leads to another fact: You don`t even have your own language.
MultiNaxx 2 weeks ago
@MultiNaxx don't you ever thought he write in spanish because he dont know how to write in english? we dont have our own language, How is that?
Leogalvanhalen 1 week ago
The Falklands are British and always will be until the Brits decide otherwise.
Suhail27577 1 month ago
@Suhail27577 robando territorio
rionegrinoroca 4 weeks ago
Let’s be honest here! The Argentines were just not ready for the grit and professionalism of the British soldier!
sgtmack23 1 month ago
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Whatever81417 1 month ago
Facts? Here's 2.
1. The argentines launched sneak cowardly attack on a peaceful island of 300 farmers.
2. When the British army arrived the argentines were humiliated and shipped home.
EddieExile 1 month ago 12
@EddieExile porque no dices que son unos colonialistas ,argentina lucho con coraje contra uds con el apoyo de ee uu y los cobardes chilenos que los ayudaron........
rionegrinoroca 1 month ago
@rionegrinoroca
Only in your dreams.
The argie invaders were humiliated and surrendered in their thousands to a British (and only British) force a fraction of their size.
EddieExile 1 month ago
@EddieExile crees que fue asi??.....
en realidad no
rionegrinoroca 1 month ago
@rionegrinoroca
Yep - 11,313 humiliated argie invaders cried for their mammies as they surrendered and were shipped home.
EddieExile 1 month ago 2
@EddieExile The only facts here are the amount of innecesary dead young men from both sides. No one is right in a war, everyone is wrong.
santiagoroo05 2 weeks ago
@santiagoroo05
UN Resolution 502 stated:
UN is “Deeply disturbed at reports of an invasion on 2 April 1982 by armed forces of Argentina, and demands and immediate withdrawal of all Argentine armed forces from the Falkland Islands”
Argentina failed to comply with the UN demand and this entitled the UK to invoke Article 51 of the UN Charter, and respond to the Argentine invasion within the right of self-defence.
Argentina was wrong to invade and the UK was right to eject the invaders.
EddieExile 1 week ago
@EddieExile wrong will be if britain keep fooling around, this conflict will lead to another war, and i hope you'll be there big mouth, shit talker
Leogalvanhalen 1 week ago
@Leogalvanhalen
It is Argentina that is fooling around - not the UK - and if this leads to war it will be caused by Argentina - again - and I would be happy to be there to help put gobshite invading argies like you in their place - again -, if the UK nukes don't incinerate you first.
EddieExile 1 week ago
You're the fucking ignorant one, you cunt. What I said represents the truth, and the crap you spouted represents the propoganda of a desperate man. And he was desperate because he couldn't take by force a group of islands even though they are thousands of miles from the rest of British Sovereign territory. Our Navy and Air Force were too good for the Argentinian aggressors. We merely defended British Sovereign Territory against attack from a foreign power. What's wrong about that? TWAT!
TimBrewin 2 months ago
@TimBrewin wow man we took the islands, but really go take a book, i clearly see you know a shit about your sunken ships, did you ever heard about woodward speeches, no the only thing you know is the shitty speech your goverment, but i see that not even your goverment can be so shitty liars, so you are a stupid ignorant, you to school ignorant, or give me some facts.
Leogalvanhalen 2 months ago
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@Leogalvanhalen You're the fucking ignorant one, you cunt. What I said represents the truth, and the crap you spouted represents the propoganda of a desperate man. And he was desperate because he couldn't take by force a group of islands even though they are thousands of miles from the rest of British Sovereign territory. Our Navy and Air Force were too good for the Argentinian aggressors. We merely defended British Sovereign Territory against attack from a foreign power. What's wrong?
TimBrewin 1 month ago
@Leogalvanhalen You took the Islands? So how come they are still a British Protectorate? LOL
TimBrewin 1 month ago
There is no such word as NEVER cos it always turns into maybe or someday ,its less than 100 yr since they said that the Titanic would never be found !!!
norvic31 2 months ago
If the Argentinians care so much about "Las Malvinas" (or, as they are actually called, The British Falkland Islands), why did they bomb the hell out of them in the war, causing untold civilian, as well as British, casualties?
TimBrewin 2 months ago
@TimBrewin WOW man tell me that you are a fucking ignorant, 'cause if this is another shitty speach of your goverment, then you all british are really fuck, THERE WEREN'T CIVILIAN CASUALITIES. Fuck your damn island. You islanders are really idiots. In the retake of the malvinas there were only one dead.
Leogalvanhalen 2 months ago
@Leogalvanhalen Three civilian casualties, 255 British Armed Forces casulaties, 649 Argentine Armed Forces casualties. Only 1 dead? Fuck your lack of facts, twat.
TimBrewin 1 month ago
@TimBrewin we took it, you fucking ignorant, and the only casualty of it was giachino, ah yes and you believe in your fucking goverment, the one who say we were allies with russia, when we had a fascist dictature, and anti-comunist regimen, the ones who say there were only one gurkha casualty, yes your fucking english governors who had defeated god, him self, and create the world instead, your country is loaded with bullshit talkers like you.
Leogalvanhalen 1 month ago
@Leogalvanhalen fact 1) argentina invaded an autonomous (that is, self governing) overseas territory which CHOOSES to be a UK protectorate. fact 2) the UK went to exercise that protection. fact 3) the dead and injured on both sides and among civilians, were the fault of the argentines, regardless of whose bullets/bombs hit them. fact 4) if you start a war with a country that is more powerful than you are, you cannot then blame them for kicking your arse.
hogalog 1 month ago
@Leogalvanhalen If there weren't civilian casualties, how do you explain the injured & dead civilians?
TimBrewin 1 month ago
@TimBrewin you mean the 3 civilians deads? the ones who got killed by british fire? or what they tell you now, that our army killed them? i see you know a shit about this conflict, but if you want to know something, dont read a book, go and talk with a veteran.
Leogalvanhalen 1 month ago
@Leogalvanhalen My uncle is a veteran. FOOL.
TimBrewin 1 month ago
@TimBrewin A veteran of WHAT??, 'cause you don't even know the basic of this conflict, how could it be? and if your uncle was a gulf veteran then go discuss with a muslim, not with me you fucking idiot, you dont even have one fact right. how your rulers mantain the kind of you??
Leogalvanhalen 1 month ago
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TimBrewin 1 month ago
@TimBrewin No i dont, i've never heard about him,.anyway, why should i? i'm not english, but there are not excuses for your ignorance about this matter, 'cause you really don't have any facts, even if your uncle was a malvinas vet, i see you know a shit.
Leogalvanhalen 1 month ago
@Leogalvanhalen I'm bored of this. You are the fucking ignorant one. They are not called Las Malvinas, they are called the Falkland Islands, and they are and always have been British, and always will be. Go back to your hole and rot in hell.
TimBrewin 1 month ago
@TimBrewin you are bored? i'm sick, of shit talkers like you, who knows a shit but dare to questioning everything
Leogalvanhalen 1 month ago
@Leogalvanhalen I'll question what I like. But I haven't been questioning anything on this site, just stating facts. You are the one who knows fuck all.
TimBrewin 3 weeks ago
@TimBrewin cerra el orto isleño de mierda.
Leogalvanhalen 1 week ago
@Leogalvanhalen You are an ignorant predjudiced cunt
TimBrewin 3 weeks ago
Should have played this on 11,11,11
bones2k 2 months ago 2
Baltetsi 2 months ago
Para honor de nuestro emblema,
para orgullo nacional,
brille, ¡oh patria!, en tu diadema
la perdida perla austral.
Baltetsi 2 months ago
@Baltetsi
Vernet was an entrepreneur not a governer who had obtained British permission to land a colony (of mixed nationality) in the British Falklands in 1826 and 1828, and he provided the British with regular reports. Vernet left in 1831 and never returned.
And when the British expelled the illegal United Provinces military (26 men who had landed illegally a few week before) from the British Falklands in 1833, the existing Vernet colonists remained.
EddieExile 2 months ago
@EddieExile Vernet was an apointed military and political commander of the islas Malvinas (Primer Comandante Político Militar de las Islas Malvinas) in 1829 by the Governor of Buenos Aires, Juan Lavalle. After your 1833 takeover, Argentine pawns led by gaucho Rivero rebelled against Brit opression and exploitation. From Aug. 26th 1833 to the final usurpation on Jan. 7th. 1834 the blue and white flag still flew in Puerto Argentino's mast. It would fly back again on the glorious Apr. 2nd. 1982
Baltetsi 2 months ago
@Baltetsi
The United Provinces TRIED to appoint entrepreneur Vernet as 'commandant' of the British Falklands but this was rejected by the British authorities.
The BA flag was hoisted illegally on the British Falklands on 10th October 1832 but the illegal flag was removed by the British authorities on 3rd January 1833.
Rivero was simply a murderer who with 8 gauchos murdered 5 Vernet civilians in a dispute over Vernet payments . Rivero then betrayed the others and they were all arrested.
EddieExile 2 months ago
@EddieExile Alright chap. Yours are the heroes and mine are the villains. Like that fairytale? Rivero was a simple murderer? Sorry, I forgott that your own murderers, raiders and rapists are named "Sirs" (Drake, Morgan). When you usurp and set foot in what isn't yours worlwide, in fact you "legally claim" but when someone else recovers what is righfully theirs they "invade". Freedom fighters (i.e. EOKA) for you must be terrorists. What an anglo-saxon hypocrite you are !!! I am done with you.
Baltetsi 2 months ago
@Baltetsi You argentines are living on land usurped and stolen from the native indigenous americans by spanish invaders.
The British Falklands were uninhabited when landed on named and claimed by the British. They were never argentine and never will be.
You are are the hypocrite.
EddieExile 2 months ago 8
@EddieExile You englishmen are living on land usurped and stolen from native indigenous Keltic people by anglo saxon invaders.
The Islas Malvinas were discovered by the Portuguese Estevao Gomes sailing in Spanish service in 1520. They were Argentine and although no more, in our hearts will always be.
Baltetsi 2 months ago
@Baltetsi
In 1520, Estaban Gomez, the Portugese DESERTER and FORMER captain of one of Magellan's ships the San Antonio, is alleged to have sighted islands that MAY have been the British Falklands – but this was not documented, there is no evidence, and no record of a claim.
The UK consists of a mixture of anglo saxon and celtic countries who can choose independence if they wish - just like the British Falklands.
The British Falklands were never argentine and never will be.
EddieExile 2 months ago 2
@EddieExile I am well aware that kelpers do not want to be Argentinians. I also recognize that they desired to be and keep on being British in 1982. If the claim is based upon present human substractum I cannot denny any British argument. Historical heritage (transmission from Spain on to Argentina) and geographical (atlantic submarine platform) claims are the Argentine basis. Could always countries choose at their own will when to secede from the Empire? Anticolonialist wars are a fiction so?
Baltetsi 2 months ago
@Baltetsi
The Falklands were uninhabited when first landed on named and claimed by British John Strong in 1690.
And the first British colony was created in 1765, long before Spain, and long before Argentina existed.
Underthe UNCLOS convention coastal states may claim their continental shelf for up to 200 nautical miles from shore - limited to half way between States with opposite or adjacent coasts.
The British Falklands are at least 250 nautical miles from Argentina.
EddieExile 2 months ago 3
@Baltetsi
In 1982, Peru and Venezuela sent critical aircraft spare parts to Argentina, Brazil leased two EMB111 Bandeirantes maritime patrol aircraft to the Argentine Navy, Peru sent 10 Mirage 5 with AS-30 missiles.
Russian journalist Sergei Brilev confirmed Russian satellite help for Argentina with former KGB and Red Army generals who confirmed that Moscow was tracking the Royal Navy around the Falklands during the war.
EddieExile 2 months ago
@EddieExile Why you always say shit? if we have had that satellite information, we would known you were coming towards the san carlos bay, so we would put the whole submarines mines there, we wouldn't have been in the need of recognition flights, the commodore carballo bombed one of our ships, how the hell would that possible happen if we have had that info. And with anti-communists dictatorship. You even had chineses on your troops. Fucking detractor.
Leogalvanhalen 2 months ago
@Leogalvanhalen
Those are facts.
Facts still hurt you eh?
Most of the British ships hit were as a result of soviet satellite intelligence.
Google "mercopress russian book confirms soviet satellite falklands"
And there were no chinese troops - only chinese laundrymen washing clothes on British ships.
You are deluded.
EddieExile 2 months ago
@EddieExilethere were no chinese??, there are videos with chineses soldiers, most of the WHAT????? there were the tactical of low fly, that's why we sunk your ships, mind defet comfort. you are so idiot 'cause you know what i'm saying is true, but denies, i'm talking about respect here. Braves man gave their lives doing the imposible and fighting alone, for you to come here and tell shit.
Leogalvanhalen 2 months ago
@Leogalvanhalen
No there were NO Chinese soldiers.
You are confused with the Gurkha soldiers who are from Nepal but have served in the British army for hundreds of years,
But they did not fight a battle in the British Falklands because the argentine defenders on Mount William were scared of the Gurkhas and ran away before battle.
It is you posting shit.
And if you called a Gurkha chinese to his face - you would run away.
EddieExile 2 months ago
@EddieExile There were chineses eddie and the gurkhas were massacred in tumbledown, at 3 AM, 14 of june, no one of you ever herad of general wilson and the V brigade? the BIM 5, the argentinian air force, where did you get your info from wikipedia?, why dont you talk with some english veterans? you are disrespecting your people mine and yourself, but you always did, see this video. "Gurkha veterans' toughest battle", thats what you do with your vets. No respect from a moron like you ever.
Leogalvanhalen 2 months ago
@Leogalvanhalen
As I said were NO Chinese troops - the Gurkhas are from Nepal (look it up) and did not fight a battle because the Argentines on Mount William ran away before battle
And there was NO Gurkha massacre - only ONE Gurkha was killed during the entire Falklands war - BUDHAPARSAD LIMBU - who died on 24 June 1982 while filling in a trench.
Your are either a moron or a troll - or both.
EddieExile 2 months ago
@EddieExile ONE GURKHA??????? all right all right then, who could possibly believe your delusions? you really don't understand the meaning of respect, many gurkhas, many brithis died on that conflict, more than you could imagine, and you treat this matters as if were some kind of football's chat, we are talking about humans life you idiot. WHAT AN HYPOCRITE ARE YOU CALLING ME TROLL.
Leogalvanhalen 2 months ago
@Leogalvanhalen
It is you making ridiculous claims about chinese and massacres that you fail to back up when you are destroyed with facts.
And I said you were a troll OR a moron.
EddieExile 2 months ago
@EddieExile Is it me? watch what you wrote, idiot, destroy with facts?, you are just a tatcher's believer, who doesn't even care if it's true what's saying, you think our veterans were blind?, you think we didn't knew to whom we were shooting at? or the amount, you can fool your people not mine, we have real persons who tells us the true history, not a stupid amount of lies. Go fool other one, you puppet.
Leogalvanhalen 2 months ago
@Leogalvanhalen
You claim that Chinese troops fought for the British...
You claim that the Gurkhas were massacred...
But you cannot post anything to support these ridiculous claims - names? numbers? units? battles ????
You are fooling yourself.
EddieExile 2 months ago
@EddieExileI put you names, go back and see, fucking idiot, woodward, the letter of tinker and that's only to name some of your vets. Colonel seineldin, captain Robacio, and so on, you fucking idiot, you know a shit, you wikipedia and garbage believer, they were charging against a fortified area, how the fuking hell only one gurka died. Not even you could believe that
Leogalvanhalen 2 months ago
@Leogalvanhalen
I've told you moron, the Gurkhas didn't charge against a fortified area because the argentines fled from their fortified area on Mount William before the Gurkhas attacked it.
EddieExile 2 months ago
@Leogalvanhalen
Lol where do you get your facts from, the gurkas had 0 deaths in tumbledown and just a section worth of men injured. The battle's Main effort was focused around the Scots guards who lost 8 men but left half a company worth of aregntine troops dead.
darffsodius 2 months ago
@darffsodius well that's what you wnat to believe, Captian Robacio knows it all, along with major jaimet, general wilson spoke to captain robacio, they say that are not allowed to speak, more than that, there are a restriction by england to the research of the fact, so we have a history tell only by your goverment, now see this video "Gurkha veterans' toughest battle", this is the goverment to who you believe.
Leogalvanhalen 2 months ago
@EddieExile if what you will bring here is WIkipedia crab we are done. What about nuclear power in Britsh Navy and subs? What about the threat of bombing nucs in Cordoba? Had we any nuclear war head so as to strike back in Marble Arch? Is like David (Argentina) against Goliath (UK). Only difference is that God didn't show on our side this time.
Baltetsi 2 months ago
I'm dealing in pure facts when I say that The Falkland Islands are a British Protectorate, and the Argentinian invasion was both unjustified and unjust.
SuperPrivate2011 2 months ago
@SuperPrivate2011 Argentinian invasion was in any case, as "unjustified and injust"(sic) as Great Britain's usurpation in 1833.
Baltetsi 2 months ago
@Baltetsi Don't be so fucking stupid - the Falklands were unclaimed in 1833 - they were occupied by another nation in 1982. Argentina was the unlawful agressor.
TimBrewin 1 month ago
Watching this showed that on both sides, the soldiers were victims of a war, chosen by unpopular politicians to try get support at home. I don't know what happened to Argentine veterans, but there are now more UK veterans who have died by suicide than were killed in the war. Thatcher used the war to get another term in office, those who did the fighting were abandoned.
The day that politicians, and their children, have to lead the first attack is the day that wars will stop forever.
Edgbarrow 2 months ago
@Edgbarrow: excellent description. As per Argentine veterans, the figures show a double of deaths by suicide after the war than K.I.A. during the conflict. Thatcher used the war for her own purpose, the same way Galtieri and the decadent junta did. What I need to highlight is that during all my trips to the UK, people always showed respect to me as an Argentinian, no matter we discussed this topic and our countries were foes. Besides football rivalries, no need to have other. Hate is useless.
Baltetsi 2 months ago
ths video is many memories the song is forever,,,simple as,no argument from me on any level...simply enjoy the music and remember the memory folks,,,we cannot change the past....what a song...
vwcaddylowrider 3 months ago
TimBrewin -serviceman or not bud, it shows your heart is in the right place and that you are a decent human being, the fact you can appreciate, how we feel and why we do what we do is enough in itself. I get so sad with those amongst the rest that can't see what we are talking about without trying to make a political view or score points, this is not what we are all about, we are just good honest simple squaddies, no more, no less.A song such as this is our lament not a glorification of us !!!
FatboyfromIIPara 3 months ago
In The days when Great Britian was still GREAT!
davestares 3 months ago
@davestares It still is GREAT!
alanheath3 3 months ago
Yo GeddyBre,
many thanks for your message, it is always nice to see some one (a fellow Serviceman) can understand my point of view, I am not trying to make any political views nor score points. TO the rest of you, that I may have annoyed/upset or what ever my apologies. To those of us that have served and in alot of cases are still serving, we do so because we felt it is our duty, we felt it right to serve and to protect those amongst the rest of the world that can/could not.
Semper Fi
FatboyfromIIPara 3 months ago
@FatboyfromIIPara I haven't served (nor will I - I'm too old for admisson now), but three of my 4 grandparents served in WWII. I cannot have any emotion towards members of the armed forces but respect and gratitude. Thank you all.
TimBrewin 3 months ago
Flag says Falklands British.
EddieExile 3 months ago
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UN Resolution 1541 (XV) UN definition of what a colony is and what self determination is, also Principles determining an obligation or not to transmit the information called for on Article 73 e of the UN Charter Chapter XI.
Principle IV: There is an obligation to transmit information in respect of a territory which is geographically separate AND distinct ethnically and/or culturally from the country administrating it.
Shall white British citizens sent by Britain fall into this category?
111jasy111 3 months ago
Alot of you seem to have missed the point completely, I buried seven of my muckers on this cold but beautiful and barren piece of the Gt British Empire, regardless of who thinks they own it or those who actually do, we went down there to fight for something we believed in, can you guys just not accept that point and leave it as is, too many bad memories of friends who didnt make it home. Let them rest in peace for Gods sake.
FatboyfromIIPara 3 months ago 2
@FatboyfromIIPara Cheers Para, Some will never understand.. and I really don't care if they do anymore.
Those that fight, do not do it for themselves or for the politicians' causes, they do it for the man/woman next to them in most cases. God Bless mate; from a US Marine to a brother in arms. God rest your mates.
GeddyBre 3 months ago
@FatboyfromIIPara May the fallen rest in peace.
SuperPrivate2011 3 months ago
@FatboyfromIIPara
LOL what are you talking about? "The British Empire"? Check it on Wikiepdia. Winston Churchill killed the Empire, he sold it to the USA in 1941. After World War II, England is just another tiny island - like the Malvines.
Remember: Las Malvinas son Argentinas
TheSunmanho 3 months ago
@TheSunmanho Las Malvinas don't exist. They are called The Falkland Islands, and they are British.
TimBrewin 3 months ago 2
@TheSunmanho If Las Malvinas son Argentinas, why did Argentina surrender?
TimBrewin 3 months ago
@TimBrewin
I am not Argentinian, I just quote a popular sticker from Argentina.
TheSunmanho 3 months ago
@TimBrewin In our hearts and souls Las Malvinas are indeed Argentinas. Why the surrender then? Because we were no match for a superpower like the UK, plus having the aid of the Americans and being the Argentinian military leadership a fully incompetent junta. Anyway, as years pass by, the heroism shown by 18-year-old argentine conscripts in Goose Green and the courage that the world recognizes to the Argentine Air Force (sinking Ardent, Sheffield, Atlantic Conveyor etc.) is out of question.
Baltetsi 3 months ago
@Baltetsi
The entire argentine airforce was defeated by a few British seaplanes flying from 2 tiny carriers.
Argentines at Goose Green included rangers, commandos, and experience conscripts with at least a year’s experience from the previous year’s intake. They were the same age as the British and had months to dig in to heavily defended entrenched positions with heavy weapons and air defence personnel.
They numbered 1000 and surrendered to 500 British.
EddieExile 2 months ago 2
@EddieExile What you try to under rate, is not a just my personal opinion. In fact, it is what is taught in most international military institutions. No rangers in Goose Green. Rangers where in the 601 & 602 Companies that engaged in Top Malo House and Mount Wall. Goose Green's were conscript companies, with a year of training with overall leadership of Mohamed Seineldin. Difference in quantity was vastly overwhelmed by materiel and supplies. Julien Thompson's "No Picnic" is a great source.
Baltetsi 2 months ago
Bravery and skills of Argentine pilots where remarked by the Brits too. They flew from the continent with only the ammount of fuel, enough for one mission and return. They flew sharp next to the sea so as not to be caught by radars. They dropped bombs that were in bad condition and never exploded. They damaged the Invincible. They gained world's recognition. Anyway, defeat was sealed by the incompetence of military leaders. Plus Argentina was no match for the UK plus the NATO aid.
Baltetsi 2 months ago
@Baltetsi
The Argentines were reinforced from Mount Kent by Piaggio’s 12th Infantry Regiment and a company of the Ranger-type 25th Infantry Regiment.
The conscripts were from the previous years intake with at least a year’s training and months to dig into entrenched position with much more and better equipment than the British.
They then surrendered to a force half their size.
EddieExile 2 months ago
@EddieExile Piaggi's 12 and Seineldin's 25 conscripts had a much better training than the rest, true. But not "Ranger type". The only real ranger they had was their green beret. Some senior officers and NCO's had ranger instruction. Junior Officers were coursing their 4th. year in the Academy when they were comissioned. Plus, the sizes you cite are according to Brit sources. What if reading other? We are very proud of our task in Goose Green. We honour Lt. Estevez as you do with "H" Jones.
Baltetsi 2 months ago
@Baltetsi The British then freed the 115 Goose Green civilians including babies and elderly people who the despicable Argentines had forcibly imprisoned in one hall for over a month with minimal facilities.
Jilian Thomson ' no picnic" was based on the British having to overcome the huge logistical disadvatages of operating 8000 miles from a home base.
Argentines need to face facts not delusions
EddieExile 2 months ago 2
@EddieExile Despicable Argentines? What's the difference with the despicable Brits? You are honorable and we are lousy? It is a childish argument. War shows horrendous aspect for everyone. Fortunately, many British war veterans that I met in the UK expressed other feelings, much more remarkable than yours. They showed respect. And I appreciate that. We Argentinians do face facts. We fought a war and lost. But we are proud of our struggle, because deep in our hearts LAS MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS.
Baltetsi 2 months ago
@Baltetsi
The fact (from all sources) remains that the argentines were we’ll trained, well equipped and well dug into heavily defensive positions but were defeated by an attacking force half their size.
And the fact is that the Argentines forcibly imprisoned all Goose Green residents in the community hall for over a month - 115 people including 42 children, 1 four month old baby, and 2 people aged over eighty, with minimal food and facilities and only two toilets...
EddieExile 2 months ago 2
@EddieExile Argentines were well trained and well equiped. But the NATO pattern British army was better, and we lost. We fought bravely (maybe the toughest battle in the whole war) but we lost. We feel no shame and we recognize thet although our courage we no match for a superpower army with the satellite aid of the whole NATO and the Chilians. We will always honour our dead and we will always be proud of fighting for our far away soil, no matter this war was bad shaped from bone idle leaders.
Baltetsi 2 months ago
@Baltetsi
...This was in direct breach of the Geneva Convention and lasted over 1 month until the British released the residents.
The residents then found that the Argentines had looted, vandalised and deliberately trashed and defiled their homes - defecating in the baths, beds and floors of those homes. This action was despicable.
If you are proud of this then you are deluded - as deluded and brainwashed as believing that the British Falkland Islands will ever become Argentine
EddieExile 2 months ago 2
@EddieExile I ain't proud with war crimes. Are you with the Amristsar massacre? Concentration camps in the Boer War ? Bloody Sunday ? Fancy that a Brit points out crimes. When ruling the world with the "Divide et Impera" policies you planted hate among people from different ethnicities in many colonies and dominions. Hate that turned into bloody wars when you were forced to leave (India, Cyprus, Africa). No matter what happens next, for me Cyprus will always be Greek as Malvinas are Argentinas
Baltetsi 2 months ago
@Baltetsi
We are talking about the Falklands - although we could discuss the Spanish and Argentine genocide against the native Americans.
The UK is not a superpower and was only able to field a very small and lightly equipped force against the Argentine invaders.
And the UK fought alone with some US satellite info, but Argentina received Soviet satellite info and aircraft and parts from Peru, Venezuela and Brazil.
It was the British infantry who won that war against all the odds.
EddieExile 2 months ago
@EddieExile Stating that we recived Soviet assistance is beyond moronic. Do you know that one of the things fucken Galtieri is very criticized is that his Macarthysm prevented Argentina from received direct Russian help?Brand new MIGs with Russian pilots. He refused. Also he rejected Fidel Castro's offer of international brigades. Peru supported morally. Brazil's only help came via the Varig's pilot that radioed the coordenates where your fleet was passing. Should have sunk it all. Big mistake.
Baltetsi 2 months ago
@Baltetsi
The divisions in the Empire were there before the British arrived.
And the British were not forced out - they left freely due to costs after WW2.
Almost all 54 ex British Empire countries who chose independence freely chose to join the British Commonwealth of nations.
And all remaining UK overseas territories including the Falklands choose to retain UK links under their UN right of self determination.
Cyprus was Greek, but the Falklands were never Argentine- and never will be.
EddieExile 2 months ago 7
@EddieExile What an anglo-saxon decency. Offering civilization to colonies. How could those ungrateful bastards worldwide fight against the queen !!! Malvinas never Argentina? Did you know Luis Vernet, the island's governor from 1820 to 1833? Did you know the population comprised Argentine gauchos, mapuche and charrua indians ? Did you know that under the leadership of Antonio Rivero they rebelled against the British usurpers in 1833. Today's kelpers may be British. MALVINAS ARE ARGENTINAS.
Baltetsi 2 months ago
@Baltetsi fuck off arsehole,long live the British Army
schotte681 2 months ago
@schotte681 you naughty boy!!!
Baltetsi 2 months ago
@Baltetsi Las Malvinas no longer exist. The islands are called "The Falklands" and they are British.
SuperPrivate2011 2 months ago
@Baltetsi Las Malvinas es Britannica. End of.
SuperPrivate2011 2 months ago
@Baltetsi Just as well you don't have any power or influence then...
TimBrewin 1 month ago
@Baltetsi LAS MALVINAS SON BRITANNICA
SuperPrivate2011 2 months ago
@Baltetsi in a lot of that statement you are talking total rubbish. Yes the Argentine pilots were brave, and were good stick and rudder men, but their skills as military pilots were very lacking. The Bombs didn't explode because they were not dropped correctly, not because of their age. Only the Mirage III and Daggers couldn't be refuelled in flight, the Super Etendard ans Skyhawks could be and were. HMS Invincible was never attacked by Skyhawks on 30 May 82, They attacked HMS Avenger & missed!!
BIGVERN1966 1 month ago
@Baltetsi So why did Argentina invade a British Protectorate then?
TimBrewin 1 month ago
@Baltetsi Sorry to butt into this conversation. Las Malvinas are not Argentinian, and never will be again. The UK (speaking as a Brit) hasn't been a superpower since before WWII. We had no aid from the Americans or anyone else, and we won a heroic victory, freeing imprisoned civilians in Goose Green, 8000+ miles from home. How dare you detract from that, you cunt?
SuperPrivate2011 2 months ago
@SuperPrivate2011 Who detracted what, you analpha? I am honouring my own soldiers that bravely fought at Goose Green. You do the same with yours. No aid from the NATO ? Pitty most courses in military academies WORLDWIDE show contrary. Compare equipment, watch the images on videos, read testimonies. We were no match against you (plus, we had awful leadership) and lost. No matter maps describe Falkland Islands (UK). For us Malvinas will always be Argentinas. This way we honour our fallen.
Baltetsi 2 months ago
@Baltetsi The UK hasn't been a superpower since WWII, nor will it ever be again. Are you living in the 1930's?
TimBrewin 2 months ago
@TimBrewin in 1982 which was NATO's first power? The USA. Which was the second ? The UK. Was Argentina match for the UK in terms of military ? Certainly not. That's my point.
Baltetsi 2 months ago
@FatboyfromIIPara I will always respect the British military, as three of my grandparents were involved in WWII for the RAF and the Army. The proudest two days of my life have been the days when I have been lucky enough to be in Rememberance Parades as part of St John Ambulance. I am sorry for my part in invoking bad memories for you. Big respect to you and every one of the British Armed Forces involved. RIP the Fallen.
TimBrewin 1 month ago
for all the wars that have gone those going on now& those to come in our childrens lives mark your song will remain timeless& so poignant of the futility of war&those who have given their lives for their belief that they can change the world'. souxie.
TheSueprentice 4 months ago
yeah british are fool to make war :)
81mercenary 4 months ago
@81mercenary Yeah maybe - but the British won
SuperPrivate2011 2 months ago
The Falklands are one of the very few remaining parts of British Sovereign Territory. As such, one of the last (if not the last) remaining outpost of the British Empire. However, they will always be remebered as the last resting place (before salvage operation) of the SS Great Britain - possibly the finest of Isambard Kingdom Brunel's many masterpieces. RIP isambard Kingdom Brunel.
SuperPrivate2011 4 months ago
So much vitriol over a beautiful song which remembers both sides of this war and I am a British Veteran. Shame on those who feel the need to slag off either side and I would wager none of you have EVER been to war and seen what it does. Grow up, the lot of you.
brigham600 4 months ago
to fuck them Argentinians, was somehow like the Indians, Egyptians, " Negro countries" with your 15 poundered guns , against arrows and spears...Fuck you, Brits.
You`ll never got Ireland and You`ll never get it. Fucking hooligans you are, with no culture.Greetings from Messerschnitt-Country.Awaiting the next round.
bastardello13 5 months ago
@bastardello13 And we'll beat MesserschMitt Country again like we did twice before. And by the way, at least learn to spell, twat.
SuperPrivate2011 2 months ago
no sandy ,im all set , got meself a real life daisy duke yankee , superb , only prob have to go back to london/bagdad every 5 years to renew me visa , wheres all the cheeky cockneys gone? ,hotel run by a turk , boozer run by a russian , need hitler back to flatten the place and start again lmao
boll0cks45 5 months ago
enoch was right ,, too late now , move to new hampshire in usa , i did , its too cold for em up here ,lmao 2 batt rgj
boll0cks45 5 months ago
@boll0cks45 room for me mate
2815andy 5 months ago
@boll0cks45 i prefer north east england myself mate - we dont really suffer much from immigration here. few poles dotted about, odd asian shopkeeper thats about it.
hogalog 5 months ago
ANY MUSLIM WHO IS SEEN TO DO OR WANT DO ANY ACTS OF VIOLENCE IN GREAT BRITAIN .SHOULD BE DEPORTED ALONG WITH HIS/HER FAMILEY TO THE SHITHOLE THEY CAME FROM.IM NOT BNP/OR EDL ,JUST A ORDINARY JOE SICK OF HAVING THE PISS TOOK OUT OF A COUNTRY A GENERATION DIED FOR.
2815andy 6 months ago 2
@2815andy You foget your country's history in other lands. They raped, pillaged and plundered. Yes, all in the name of God and country. In most of the countries that the Brits partitioned there is trouble. The occupiers are not wanted by the majority. And those who do want them, are only interested in having the power for themselves, and to hell with the indigenous people.
TheEriskay 5 months ago
@TheEriskay that was then this is now.i stand by what i said.i repeat im not racist .but there needs to be a line in the sand drawn and nows the time.any immigrants not happy with western policys or cultures should up sticks and fuck off.no more babysitting
2815andy 5 months ago
@2815andy agreed.
hogalog 5 months ago
@TheEriskay Yes, we had a terrible history of sponsoring the rule of law in countries whose home grown dictators have since found it inconvenient to maintain.
Apolloin 5 months ago
@Apolloin The English never had a terrible history in other lands. They
had a criminal history in other lands. And all for "God and country?"
Yeah, right!! And, the people who have arrived in your country from
Arab states have never been wanted there, by the English. I know this,
as I witnessed so many English buying homes in Scotland, to get away from them.
At least, that's what they said, when I asked. Don't get me wrong, a lot over here
don't want them either.
TheEriskay 5 months ago
@TheEriskay Am I supposed to defend the worst excesses of the Colonial Era now? Point me to a peer nation of Britain's that has a better history - you'd better not try Italy, France, Belgium and you'd REALLY better not try Spain or Portugal.
As for claims of racism I give you the Moroccans in France, the Turks in Germany, the Surinaam and Germans in Holland... I could go on, but I think you can see my argument. You display a general criticism of Europe as being peculiarly anti-British.
Apolloin 5 months ago
@Apolloin I was not criticiziing, in general. I was criticizing your English governments.
No, I'm not anti-British, nor am I anti-English. I have never trusted English governments.
They are still criminal. Not that our governments have been squeaky clean, far from it, and declaring
war on Iraq was ciriminal. I'm very much aware of my country's history, and it's nothing to
be proud of. As for the worst "excesses" of your goverments, history speaks for itself.
TheEriskay 5 months ago
@TheEriskay Sadly since the abandonment of the Confucian principles of government there hasn't been what one might term a truly moral government. Realpolitik specifically mandates against morality as the prime motivator in political decisions compared to expediency and effectiveness.
Every government believes that the ends justify the means.
As for the old British Empire, I think history will judge it to be the most progressive of its kind. Certainly more so than the US not-Empire.
Apolloin 5 months ago
@Apolloin Really! As for the old English governments, and let's not forget
who ruled, English history will always be potrayed in a positive light by the English.
You may call it progressive, others have a different name for it. And I'm glad
that the US is not an empire. Now, you can put your book away.
TheEriskay 5 months ago
@TheEriskay And apparently English history will always be portrayed in a negative light by people called TheEriskay who live in the USA. As the citizen of a democratic nation I would have thought that you, at least, would have found the wishes of Islanders themselves to be more compelling than a very brief and unsuccessful period of occupation hundreds of years ago.
Ah well - our prejudices must be written on our tongues. We always display them best when we open our mouths.
Apolloin 5 months ago
@Apolloin is that the democratic nation where black people are still held down as sub humans in many states?
hogalog 4 months ago
@hogalog Well, America might well be more committed to the Democratic Principle than Democratic Practice, but it's still hard to compare anyone short of Pol Pot to Galtieri and not have them coming out looking like Gandhi.
But the point is that you can debate the rights and wrongs of the two governments until the cows come home - but when Argentina invaded the islands with a mind to seizing the property and person of the legal inhabitants they put themselves in the wrong. The rest is machismo.
Apolloin 4 months ago
@TheEriskay You stupid prat, if Britain didn`t have an empire The USA would not exist!
kjclarke56 4 months ago
@TheEriskay the british empire usually saw the subjugated people gain massively. look at the plight of the countries america shits on....
hogalog 4 months ago
@TheEriskay im pretty sure most of those countries which we have since left (such as india, south africa) wouldnt be anywhere near as well developed without the british having been there.... and i bet the people of iraq and zimbabwe to name but 2 probably wish we had never left. aye britain ruled the world and exploited these countries, but the majority of the people in them actually gained from british rule. britain also ended the slave trade. you conveniently forget these points.
hogalog 5 months ago
@TheEriskay so would india be going through the growth and development it currently is, without the british having gone in there 300 years ago? would they shite as like, theyd still be wearing loin cloths and hunting their dinner.
hogalog 5 months ago
@2815andy though those people exist pal, they are a minority i can assure you.
hogalog 5 months ago
this is from a time when english ment something,respect to every british soilder that got killed for england and the english way,i have 2 white pure english sons, if they think they are going to join the british army to protect the british way of life i will slit throuts myself,they are not going to put there life on the line for this country while paki suiside bombers live here,claiming there human rights to live here,FUCK YOU you smelly paki fuckers9(and you do smell)OLD ENGLAND
fukwatshit 6 months ago 2
MY SQUADRON WAS IN THE FALKLAND ISLAND ASSAULT ; ANY TIME ; ANYWHERE !!!
d37150 6 months ago
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In 1910, a 17,000-word memo was commissioned by the British Foreign Office to look at the historical dispute over sovereignty. The study highlighted many weaknesses in the British case. The head of the Foreign Office's American department, Gerald Spicer, wrote: "From a perusal of this memo it is difficult to avoid the conclusion that the Argentine government's attitude is not altogether unjustified and that our action has been somewhat high-handed."
111jasy111 7 months ago
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21 June 2011 - UN Decolonization Committee approved other resolutions submitted for the General Assembly’s adoption. By the first, The General Assembly would call on the administering Powers to finalize a programme of work on a CASE-BY-CASE basis for the Non-Self Governing Territories.
The UK has 80% of territories on the UN list of 16 Non-Self Governing Territories, which certainly are very different cases.
Only Malvinas/Falklands and Gibraltar are under sovereignity dispute with the UK.
111jasy111 7 months ago
if brothers in arms had been on the album communiqué, it would have sounded like this.
eriksau 7 months ago
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The UN Decolonization Committee today adopted a consensus resolution reiterating that the way to end the “special and particular” colonial situation in Malvinas is through peaceful, negotiated settlement of the sovereignty dispute between Argentina and the UK. By the terms of the text, introduced by Chile’s representative, the Committee regretted that, despite widespread international support for negotiations, longstanding General Assembly resolutions on that question hadn't been implemented.
111jasy111 7 months ago
HIJOS DE MIL PUTA, LADRONES, GENOCIDAS, MENTIROSOS, DEVUELVAN LO QUE NOS PERTENECE POR NATURALEZA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LAS MALVINAS FUERON, SON Y SERÁN ARGENTINAS!!!!!!!!!!!
ARDAN EN EL INFIERNO POR SER LOS REVERENDOS INFELICES QUE SON
topitopi77 7 months ago
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cool video man , well done, and keep up the singing, you will get there your really good...
otom73 7 months ago
cool video man , well done, and keep up the singing, you will get there your really good
otom73 7 months ago
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f I had invaded English land, told my sons that they were Argentinian living in Argentine territory and make them follow through that line of argument for 178 years, would you support my refusal to discuss sovereignity issues? Even if Enlgand complained since day one? Even if it breaches several UN Resolutions? Would you accept if I simply say 'it's argentine territory, end of the story?'. Would you support the 'self-determination' of my family and heirs to the territory?
111jasy111 7 months ago
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Do you all know that yesterday an islander born in Malvinas, son of an islander who fought in the conflict of 1982, became an Argentine citizen? He was born in the islands in 1968 and as you all know, the islands are Argentine territory and are part of the Government of Tierra del Fuego so naturally, he applied for the argentine nationality since he is an argentine citizen after all.
Get used to this: Malvinas Argentinas y Sudamericanas.
111jasy111 7 months ago
@111jasy111 You keep on thinking that mate, will never be Malvinas - EVER - its British, so do one.
brigham600 7 months ago
TO zombiekiller117 - I am Falklands Veteran and this video is all about the Falklands, take your racist view somehere else you bigot.
brigham600 7 months ago
@brigham600 In your OPINION I am 'racist',you ONLY say that because I'm White
Anti-racism is a codeword for Anti-White
You CLAIM to be a ex-soldier and a veteran
Soldiers fight for the future of their country and to keep the children safe.No true British soldier would give away British children's country to 3rd Worlders.If you weren't fighting for Britain and British children then you are nothing but a mercenary
Who gave YOU the right to give away British children's inheritance to 3rd Worlders ?
zombiekiller117 7 months ago
@zombiekiller117 I am white, but not a racist bigot like you.
brigham600 7 months ago
@brigham600 Nobody is flooding Asian countries with non-asians to create a 'melting pot' of mixed up 'blended humanity' and telling people who object 'I am white, but not a racist bigot like you.'
Nobody is flooding Black countries with non-blacks to create a 'melting pot' of mixed up 'blended humanity' and telling people who object 'I am white, but not a racist bigot like you.'
You are what Christians call 'Judas',what Blacks call 'Uncle Tom' and everyone else calls TRAITOR
You are Anti-White
zombiekiller117 7 months ago
@brigham600 Sir, would you go back to the fight if it's necessary? do the british believe in that cause? do they know what really hapened? I mean the young ones, do they care?? do you belive in the british right over the malvinas??
Leogalvanhalen 5 months ago
@Leogalvanhalen britain doesnt rule the falklands. it never did, it is self governing. britain just protects it. and for what its worth, it has far more right than argentina. the falklands have been a british protectorate since before argentina even existed, so why should we hand over their freedom just because its a few miles closer?
hogalog 5 months ago
@hogalog I'm not here to argue, I not even asked for your opinion, the malvinas was illegally usurped in 1833 to the already formed argentina nation, but i understand, you think you have right and I think we have the rights. It useless discuss about that, no one gonna change about the opinion, so have a good day, i dont want your opinion.
Leogalvanhalen 5 months ago