The post-game comments are all understandable and natural. But communicating them towards the camera, they should sound a bit more composed and professional.
Ayano is weird! I've not seen that style before. However, I think she uses a righthanded ball with a lefthand designed hook (pin axis?) and rotates her wrist from 6 o'clock position (curled approach wrist) to 9 o'clock position, instead of 3 o'clock position of righthanders usually do.
Thanks for your comment. I fully agree with you. Not only bowling, a part of Japaneseprofessional sport players tend to be flippant even after losing the game.
As you said I also think they should be more professional at least on public stage.
I also watched Ayano's perfornance with much interest. Though it may be interesting if she could join p-league (of Couse she must show stable performance). Howver I think JPBA is conservative, so not sure if they accept Ayano's Style.
Sorry for pouring on with the comments.... I forgot that even I used to throw the backup ball for some of my spares. As a right-hander, I used to throw a somewhat backup ball cross-lane for my 6 and 10 pin leaves. I would also use it to convert the 5-10 or 4-10 splits, and at times I was successful. My philosophy was that, on spares, I liked having the ball roll towards the target, rather than away from it, and also utilize the left side of the lane by staying away from the channel.
Backup ball is actually natural for the female wrist. The construction of the wrist on a female differs from a male. Back during my junior bowling days of the 1980s, there was a woman bowler who averaged 210 bowling this way. One would say she was a "house bowler," and that could be true. But, she had a smooth form, and everything looked natural. Yes, you could never use this form and compete on the pro level. But, as a once-a-week league bowler, this style is fine. Still better than spinning!
Bad match!!! Nakamura's speed was just too slow. The equipment change midway was actually the right move, but she still couldn't figure out the speed. Yanagii didn't bowl great either, but at least she picked up her spares. Sakai continues to miss single pin spares. She looked out of balance and timing. I'm only bummed that Sakai is out of #37. As for Sato, I watched all of Furin Kazan, and I HATED IT! Least favorite taiga drama (Toshiie to Matsu is my fav.) Maybe she likes Gackt! Just kidding!
Cretainly, the game was not so nice. A few seris before, Mr. Maruyama commented Nakamura was under re-construction of her form. Though she may put priority on cvontrol, I think her form lost dynamism. Sakai may be embrassed with first mistake, and it may lead to another. Yanagi also admitted she was not good and was fighting with such herself during the game.
As for Satoh, she says she read furin-Kaza with novel. Taiga Drama may be embellished. I mentioned it in my commentary since I could not find page for novel in Wiki. In overseas countries there should be many people who does not know what the daiga drama is. I thoght even page for taiga drama may help their understanding.
@yuppiehi I feel like Nakamura needed a different attack strategy rather than a ball change... or at least a ball change to something that didn't have such a similar motion. She went from high (nose) to less high (consistently leaving 4 pins) so there was something else that needed to be adjusted too.
Agree with you that this game was won by closing frames but this is probably the ugliest overall match I've seen in a while xD
Now that's what I call potential. Unlike the couple of girls I saw (yeah, yeah, those idols that were showcased after the E game). The approach, and I mean before releasing the ball, is kinda awkward but if it's resulting to knock all 10 pins then it works. I wonder how she'll fair on difficult oil patterns such as the cheetah, scorpion or as such.
We have bowlers in the US that throw a "backup ball"; sometimes it is called a "cutter" release. There are no pros here with that style. You are correct in thinking it is hard to generate consistent power with that style. However if there is very little oil on the lanes they can make bowlers with a big hook look bad by getting more strikes and marks.
Pefornace of Ayano Iwai seems to be more impressive for both of you than the games.
I was also amazed her thorow. if she could be stable, backup would be interesting characteristics in p-league. On the other hand, I think JPBA is conservative organization, so it is a bit doubtful for me whether JPBA will accept her style or not
Is that one lady throwing a Virtual Gravity Nano? Sweet!
frothyshoes 1 month ago
@frothyshoes
Thanks for your comment. Maybe you mean Ayano Iwai. She is just amateur working in bowling alley as temporary worker, accoerding to oficial website.
I think her backup is amazing, but her voice is like maid we can often see Akihabara.
higashi1343 1 month ago
美月ちゃんは一回Pから外れたほうがいいんじゃないかなぁ。あまりにもPでの成績が悪すぎる。今回出停喰らえば、三連続だったわけで。酒井プロが２連続イージーの大乱調だったから助かりましたけどねぇ。ボールスピードもないし、課題が多い。一度Pリーガーになったら絶対外れないみたいな既得権益化は良くないと思うんですよ。
yamahanaya 1 month ago
@yamahanaya さん
いつもどうもありがとうございます。
彼女はフォーム改造が悪い方に行ってしまいましたね。コントロール重視なのかも知れませんがこぢんまりしてしまった気がします。スピードがないのもスイングが小さくなったからでしょう。昔長谷川選手も5-14戦出なかった例もあるし、仰るように一度外れた方が良いかも知れませんね。
アレでパフォーマンスが良ければ結構いいキャラなんですが、プリティだけじゃ困りますよね。
higashi1343 1 month ago
@higashi1343 本当にプリティだけじゃ困りますね笑。ファッションとかキャラはいいと思ってるんで嫌いじゃないんですが、Pではあまりにも不甲斐ない。今年は79→30とランキングを大きく伸ばし、初の第二シードを獲得してるのでトータルでは向上してはいるのですが。新人プロ三人は実力的に低いのばかりですし、ナショ撤退でPの全体レベルが急激に低下しているだけにね。「日本のボウリングしょぼっ」と外人さんに思われるのはツラいものがあります。なかなか外人さん厳しいし。
yamahanaya 1 month ago
@yamahanaya さん
私はPしか見ていないので中村美月がそんなに伸びているとは知りませんでした。Pだと１ゲームマッチだから緊張しちゃうんですかね。でも今のフォームはあまり良くないように思えます。酒井美佳も今回酷かったし、下で外人さんにもバッドマッチと言われちゃってます。
新プロ３名の中でも田中プロはちょっと非力に思えますが、浅田梨奈みたいになっていくといいんですがね。でもプリティ度はかなり落ちますね。後は独り言の多いのと、姉とはかなり違う妹（笑）。
小林姉プロはなかなかやりますね。外人さんに紹介されてTKZW489さんの全日本女子プロボウリング選手権の動画を見ました。そこにそちらのコメントが乗っていたのでやはりさすがだと思いました。
higashi1343 1 month ago
@higashi1343 実力者の多いPでは美月ちゃんはまだまだですね。ショック療法として外れるほうがいいんじゃないかと思います。田中プロはP入りできたことが理解できません笑。ランキング以前のレベルですし。プリティでもないし、現役女子高生って以外の売りが何もない。JPBAにはもっとマシなのがいると思うんですが。現状では浅田選手とでは比較の対象になりませんね。アマエリートのナショ選手はプロ入りすればルーキーイヤーからシード入りできる実力がありますから。小林姉にはPを自分が引っ張っていくんだという自覚が求められます。全日本で準優勝の実績で第一シード選手ですから。ナショ選手に代わるスターに育ってほしいです。
yamahanaya 1 month ago
@yamahanaya さん
美月ちゃんについては仰るとおりですね。前にも書きましたが長谷川プロのような事例ある事だし、一度外れるのも良いと思います。あと田中プロは確かに浅田梨奈からはあらゆる意味で落ちますね。愛想もないし。
ちょっとネタバレになりますが。次々回のアップ分で例のオーディションの合格者が発表されるようです。プロも今したし、彼女たちの中から実力者が出てきて今の選手達を脅かす存在になればと思います。まあ、タレントから来てるのは無理でしょうが。
higashi1343 1 month ago
@higashi1343 オーディションから三人の合格が決まったそうですね。ひとりは安藤プロで決まりでしょうが、あとのふたりって誰だろう？トッププロが顔を揃えているPで通用する選手なんていたのかなぁ。まぁ期待しましょう。
yamahanaya 1 month ago
@yamahanaya さん
さすがですね。公式サイトにも出ていないのにもう人数までご存じとは。
安藤プロ以外にもう一人プロがいましたが、後一人はあのモデルさんか、明日アップする予定の動画に出ているXXさんあたりではないでしょうか。個人的にはあのバックアップボウラーも捨てがたいのですが、JPBAって外人さんにも書いたけど多分保守的だろうから、ああいう投げ方は認めないんじゃないかな。
それにしゃべり方がもろアキバ系(^_^);
higashi1343 1 month ago
@higashi1343 いやいや丸山プロのブログに書いてあったのを見ただけで笑。プロはもうひとりいますが、ほとんどトーナメントにも出てないみたいだし、年もいってるからどうですかね。三十路近い人でいいなら、もっと実力者がいますから。バックアップの彼女は投げ方以前にスコアで通用しないでしょう。オーディションはハイスコレーンだから200upできましたけど。モデルの彼女も同じですね。豆ですが、モデルの大塚さんとバックアップの岩見さんはいとこです。
yamahanaya 1 month ago
@yamahanaya さん
丸山プロのブログですか、後で見てみますが。トーナメントディレクター自らフライングですね、Pリーガーだって公式サイトに出てから試合の事に触れているのに。夏くらいに鈴木亜季が、公式サイトに出る前にブログで試合結果に触れてしまい、叩かれたと言う程ではないですけど「あーあ、やっちゃった」みたいに言われて酷く恐縮していた事がありました。私も公式サイトがアップデートされた後でアップしているのはそのためです。自主的な物ですが。
higashi1343 1 month ago
The post-game comments are all understandable and natural. But communicating them towards the camera, they should sound a bit more composed and professional.
Ayano is weird! I've not seen that style before. However, I think she uses a righthanded ball with a lefthand designed hook (pin axis?) and rotates her wrist from 6 o'clock position (curled approach wrist) to 9 o'clock position, instead of 3 o'clock position of righthanders usually do.
This an extensive report. Thank you, higashi! :)
CooLDsteR 1 month ago
@CooLDsteR
Thanks for your comment. I fully agree with you. Not only bowling, a part of Japaneseprofessional sport players tend to be flippant even after losing the game.
As you said I also think they should be more professional at least on public stage.
I also watched Ayano's perfornance with much interest. Though it may be interesting if she could join p-league (of Couse she must show stable performance). Howver I think JPBA is conservative, so not sure if they accept Ayano's Style.
higashi1343 1 month ago
Sorry for pouring on with the comments.... I forgot that even I used to throw the backup ball for some of my spares. As a right-hander, I used to throw a somewhat backup ball cross-lane for my 6 and 10 pin leaves. I would also use it to convert the 5-10 or 4-10 splits, and at times I was successful. My philosophy was that, on spares, I liked having the ball roll towards the target, rather than away from it, and also utilize the left side of the lane by staying away from the channel.
yuppiehi 1 month ago
@yuppiehi
Reading your coment, I remembered I also used to throw backup ball to get 6-10 or 10 pin only long time ago. It was also successful for me.
However I think it is very difficult to continue strikes like Ayano.
higashi1343 1 month ago
Backup ball is actually natural for the female wrist. The construction of the wrist on a female differs from a male. Back during my junior bowling days of the 1980s, there was a woman bowler who averaged 210 bowling this way. One would say she was a "house bowler," and that could be true. But, she had a smooth form, and everything looked natural. Yes, you could never use this form and compete on the pro level. But, as a once-a-week league bowler, this style is fine. Still better than spinning!
yuppiehi 1 month ago
Bad match!!! Nakamura's speed was just too slow. The equipment change midway was actually the right move, but she still couldn't figure out the speed. Yanagii didn't bowl great either, but at least she picked up her spares. Sakai continues to miss single pin spares. She looked out of balance and timing. I'm only bummed that Sakai is out of #37. As for Sato, I watched all of Furin Kazan, and I HATED IT! Least favorite taiga drama (Toshiie to Matsu is my fav.) Maybe she likes Gackt! Just kidding!
yuppiehi 1 month ago
Cretainly, the game was not so nice. A few seris before, Mr. Maruyama commented Nakamura was under re-construction of her form. Though she may put priority on cvontrol, I think her form lost dynamism. Sakai may be embrassed with first mistake, and it may lead to another. Yanagi also admitted she was not good and was fighting with such herself during the game.
higashi1343 1 month ago
@yuppiehi
Sorry please allow me to continue a bit.
As for Satoh, she says she read furin-Kaza with novel. Taiga Drama may be embellished. I mentioned it in my commentary since I could not find page for novel in Wiki. In overseas countries there should be many people who does not know what the daiga drama is. I thoght even page for taiga drama may help their understanding.
higashi1343 1 month ago
@yuppiehi I feel like Nakamura needed a different attack strategy rather than a ball change... or at least a ball change to something that didn't have such a similar motion. She went from high (nose) to less high (consistently leaving 4 pins) so there was something else that needed to be adjusted too.
Agree with you that this game was won by closing frames but this is probably the ugliest overall match I've seen in a while xD
rensuchan 1 month ago
どうも今回の酒井は元気がなかったですね
余談ですが全員に美の文字がｗ
zeasu555 1 month ago
@zeasu555 さん
イージーミス２連発では厳しかったですね。私も良くあのミスはやりますが（爆）。美は女性にはありふれてるけど先日に続いて良くお気づきで(^_^):
higashi1343 1 month ago
Now that's what I call potential. Unlike the couple of girls I saw (yeah, yeah, those idols that were showcased after the E game). The approach, and I mean before releasing the ball, is kinda awkward but if it's resulting to knock all 10 pins then it works. I wonder how she'll fair on difficult oil patterns such as the cheetah, scorpion or as such.
SCDWldCrd 1 month ago
We have bowlers in the US that throw a "backup ball"; sometimes it is called a "cutter" release. There are no pros here with that style. You are correct in thinking it is hard to generate consistent power with that style. However if there is very little oil on the lanes they can make bowlers with a big hook look bad by getting more strikes and marks.
David87124 1 month ago
@David87124 and SCDWldCrd
Pefornace of Ayano Iwai seems to be more impressive for both of you than the games.
I was also amazed her thorow. if she could be stable, backup would be interesting characteristics in p-league. On the other hand, I think JPBA is conservative organization, so it is a bit doubtful for me whether JPBA will accept her style or not
@SCDWldCrd
Ayano's perfornace may be better than 2 idols in last week, but her voice is a very idol (a bit childish for 22 years old).
higashi1343 1 month ago