Typical Leftist feminist. She starts with noble goals like sexual equality and mutual respect, but rather than be sensible she decides to play psychoanalyst and amateur economist and attribute all cultural problems to a patriarchal conspiracy, rampant male misogyny, and free market capitalism. C'mon now.
I don't believe porn should neccisarrily be banned. She does have a point. Our society has become so sexually enveloped that we have brainwashed young girls to basically abandon their childhood and innocence and become something they shouldn't be.
Many of the points made assume a lack of any prior sexual knowledge in this generation's intrepid fornicators. For example, I'm sure the even the most vigorous of porn users are aware that pubic hair is an anatomical norm.
I find this quite hilarious. And no, I am not denying that porn is becoming rougher.THAT is a fact. But sorry, I do find women attractive for who they are. I beleive that romance and love is human instinct. Images cannot alter instincts. The power of affection with the person you love, triumphs greatly over these images.
Most women in porn have been sexually abused their whole lives. Your average, self respecting woman would never be in porn. Porn is just a continuation of the abuse these girls/women have endured, and men who pay for it are saying that it's okay to abuse women and girls.
@deatXbyXchocolate335 most women fight against feminism, just saying. They've never as a group had their best interests at heart, this is why still on this planet today we have an entire country like Saudi that has banned woman drivers, and women just say Oh well I don't want to drive.Does that make me bad, *giggle*. Sexual imagery affects everyone pretty much. If women are portrayed in terrible ways, that does not mean you will not feel tingly. Hopefully you can vote with your dollar for change
@690169 Find me one main-stream porn clip where the woman is clearly aroused. You know, red and swollen vagina lips, flushed neck and chest, trembling legs. I've seen a soft core once, a long time ago, where the girl appeared to be aroused, but it was a masterbation scene. AND, it being soft core, she wasn't actually having sex with anyone. I've seen plenty of porn, and trust me, these girls aren't enjoying themselves. It's sickening to watch.
I'm not saying they enjoy it....the women in porn are saying it so I'm just going on what they say in interviews and stuff like that most of the women say "If I didn't like doing what I do then I wouldn't be doing it" that's what the majority of women in porn say and I'm not going to think their confused or mentally ill or what not because in my opinion that would be insulting their intelligence and please don't say that there are no intelligent porn stars....you'd be shocked
@690169 Would you allow a woman to knowingly shit or piss in your mouth? How about put a dildo in your ass then expect you to suck it? Perhaps the only way you might allow that would be if, um, that was normal to you ... like what you might consider normal if you'd been abused your whole life. I'm just saying.
Here's a question for you....what would you like to see happen with porn? I tell you right now I love porn...I love women....I love a womens body....but I have a life outside of porn and I think I could live without porn but there are guys out there that need it just because when they aproach women they get turned down because of bullshit reasons so those men out there basically this is the only sort of "play" they get.
@690169 Well, being turned down for "bullshit reasons" is certainly a matter of perspective. I would like to see porn be more respectful of women, depict more things that are pleasing to women, and not involve things that can actually make you physically ill (like this whole ass to mouth thing that's become so popular. Personally, I don't view it anymore because it's become so vile in the past 20 years or so.
@anastasia81472 u would be better off watching amuteur porn with real people fucking. I kind of like that too but sometimes I want to see hard degrading shit too. Porn is all about fantasy. The main problem with her argument is that she believes fantasy dictates reality. It is actually the other way around and reality dictates fantasy. Human sexuality is very complex and diverse and trying to force people into some cookie cutter sexual experiences does work.
You people think your going to end pornogrophy? Well i got news for you there are more porn websites than there are people on planet earth so good luck.
wait wait wait... hold the phone.... She says that Good sex and sexuality is based on peoples desires and experiences???? but wtf does that even mean???? Desires and experiences can have an extremely wide range of meanings.... wtf???? I was agreeing with everything until she threw in a totally ridiculous statement that has no meaning whatsoever
She's making girls sound like simple minded people that can easily be brainwashed by men.....it's women like her that are holding women down....not men
@690169 Actually its women in the porn industry that have no self respect and want to make a quick buck that let shit like this happen and turn men into women abusing sex hungry mysoginists and make women seem like they can look their noses down on us.
@SWIFTzTrigger they might want to make money like that, but they by no means MAKE men into anything, they have no creative control in that industry and the women that do rise in the ranks still tow the misogynist line, don't change a thing and blame the market forces.
@boobootoob alright, that is true Ill admit, but they are all part of the problem as far as I am concerned its true the people that market it are the true evil doers however without the women that take part there would be no porn at all. But its true lets blame the guys at the top first.
Well I'm not going to degrade anyones job.....alot of girls in the porn industry love sex and wouldnt do anything else and I have no problem with it until.....their career in porn is over and they go on a crusade to stop porn and blame everyone for their mistakes in porn and don't blame the one their suppose to blame the one in the mirror....also I keep hearing women are the victims but what about the men it's always about the women but there are men in porn as well
@690169 Very strange ethics you have... Porn has led a decadent society, or rather a more decadent society, Boys I know all talk about doing odd sexual acts and "destroying" women, and Girls have increasing loss of self-esteem. Blind yourself if you wish from the facts however things will get worse and worse until something snaps and that is when things will turn ugly. Btw 27% of all americans have a mental illness at anyone time, Society is degrading as we speak, Porn is a contributer to this.
@690169 they get into porn because that is the low point of their lives then after they go into it, only then do they realise the true horrors that it entails.
you have no problem with porn, which is essentially allowing you to view 2 prostitutes having sex, which is available to anyone with internet access, children of any age able to use the internet. but you have a problem when they speak against Porn because it degrades people?
I find that a very strange ethic, if it can be called an ethic
No no no no no.....I have a problem when women or men make money off of being a porn star for years and years and then when they retire or "Find jesus" it is then when they go against porn and wanting to stop it sure after they make a killing off being a porn star...it's very hypocritical
@690169 True that is very hypocritical, however Ive never come across such a case. But either way I dont dislike what they do because either way they are still talking against porn.
@690169 Do you say that about any other kind of worker that needs rights? Sweat shop workers? Are they stupid? Does it matter? People are not all the same, it's rather sexist to suggest that all women are the same, like if you suggest that some 18 yr old with any variety of educational level possible could not POSSIBLY be naive, and that saying so is a knock on all women is to deny the VARIETY of people that women are, You are the one doing that, and nobody else.
Listen 18 year olds are adults and when they (Men and women) go into the porn biusness they know what their getting into...that's another thing that women Gale Dines made it seem as if it were only women that were the victims in the porn industry....well if you're going to say that then are'nt the men as well? Like I said they know what their getting into and some people will go the extra legnth to pay the bills so Gale should shut up
When one of my inside sources told me that Gail keeps track of her students' pubic hair, I wished I had some way to prove it so I could talk about it. And now, she admits it openly!
@godshiva Beth said she can just walk in and ask if they shave their crotches. Its a wonder she doesn't have them take off their panties and squat over a mirror.
helpful thoughts... i wonder about her hopes for creating a just society through social action though. aren't the people she calls to mobalise also slaves of the porn industry themselves?
something needs to be done, agreed. il pray that Jesus comes back for a start :)
Typical Leftist feminist. She starts with noble goals like sexual equality and mutual respect, but rather than be sensible she decides to play psychoanalyst and amateur economist and attribute all cultural problems to a patriarchal conspiracy, rampant male misogyny, and free market capitalism. C'mon now.
ElasticGiraffe 3 months ago
seeing women degraded turns me on
you will never stop my enjoyment
hahahahhaahha
matchbox555 6 months ago
edit: necessarily
1RedshirtXLG 7 months ago
I don't believe porn should neccisarrily be banned. She does have a point. Our society has become so sexually enveloped that we have brainwashed young girls to basically abandon their childhood and innocence and become something they shouldn't be.
1RedshirtXLG 7 months ago
Many of the points made assume a lack of any prior sexual knowledge in this generation's intrepid fornicators. For example, I'm sure the even the most vigorous of porn users are aware that pubic hair is an anatomical norm.
GeorgesBarras 7 months ago
I find this quite hilarious. And no, I am not denying that porn is becoming rougher.THAT is a fact. But sorry, I do find women attractive for who they are. I beleive that romance and love is human instinct. Images cannot alter instincts. The power of affection with the person you love, triumphs greatly over these images.
imsebbot123 8 months ago 3
CHRSITIANITY = HATE
CHRISTIANITY = VULGARITY
CHRISTIANITY = EVIL
CHRISTIANITY = CANCER TO SOCIETY
jacmia 8 months ago
watching porn means you hate children!!!!!! .. i hate children then =D
mistajacksonthefirst 8 months ago
Most women in porn have been sexually abused their whole lives. Your average, self respecting woman would never be in porn. Porn is just a continuation of the abuse these girls/women have endured, and men who pay for it are saying that it's okay to abuse women and girls.
anastasia81472 8 months ago 2
@anastasia81472
What about the women/girls who pay for it? I'm a girl, and I find porn to be very sexy. Just saying.
deatXbyXchocolate335 8 months ago
@deatXbyXchocolate335 most women fight against feminism, just saying. They've never as a group had their best interests at heart, this is why still on this planet today we have an entire country like Saudi that has banned woman drivers, and women just say Oh well I don't want to drive.Does that make me bad, *giggle*. Sexual imagery affects everyone pretty much. If women are portrayed in terrible ways, that does not mean you will not feel tingly. Hopefully you can vote with your dollar for change
boobootoob 8 months ago
@anastasia81472
part 1
OMG...SERIOUSLY.....you're going to say that just because I buy porn you're saying that I think It's O.K to abuse women
I geuss were done as a society because
1 People who eat meat MUSThate animals
2 People who drive trucks MUST hate or suport damaging aur world
3 If you don't agree with the war you MUST hate our soldiers
4 If you think that 911 was a inside job you MUST be un patriotic
I'm sorry but you're making allegations about people you've never met
690169 8 months ago
@690169
Part 2
You say that there are no self respecting women would do pornagraphic material
Pornographic definition and I quote "Sexual explict pictures, writng or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal"
Well then according to the definition of pornographic Modeling is pornographic....Would you agree?
Also look up geniuses of the porn world there are quite a few that are very clever and brilliant people with high IQ's
690169 8 months ago
@690169 Find me one main-stream porn clip where the woman is clearly aroused. You know, red and swollen vagina lips, flushed neck and chest, trembling legs. I've seen a soft core once, a long time ago, where the girl appeared to be aroused, but it was a masterbation scene. AND, it being soft core, she wasn't actually having sex with anyone. I've seen plenty of porn, and trust me, these girls aren't enjoying themselves. It's sickening to watch.
anastasia81472 8 months ago
@anastasia81472
I'm not saying they enjoy it....the women in porn are saying it so I'm just going on what they say in interviews and stuff like that most of the women say "If I didn't like doing what I do then I wouldn't be doing it" that's what the majority of women in porn say and I'm not going to think their confused or mentally ill or what not because in my opinion that would be insulting their intelligence and please don't say that there are no intelligent porn stars....you'd be shocked
690169 8 months ago
@690169 Would you allow a woman to knowingly shit or piss in your mouth? How about put a dildo in your ass then expect you to suck it? Perhaps the only way you might allow that would be if, um, that was normal to you ... like what you might consider normal if you'd been abused your whole life. I'm just saying.
anastasia81472 8 months ago
@anastasia81472
Here's a question for you....what would you like to see happen with porn? I tell you right now I love porn...I love women....I love a womens body....but I have a life outside of porn and I think I could live without porn but there are guys out there that need it just because when they aproach women they get turned down because of bullshit reasons so those men out there basically this is the only sort of "play" they get.
690169 8 months ago
@690169 Well, being turned down for "bullshit reasons" is certainly a matter of perspective. I would like to see porn be more respectful of women, depict more things that are pleasing to women, and not involve things that can actually make you physically ill (like this whole ass to mouth thing that's become so popular. Personally, I don't view it anymore because it's become so vile in the past 20 years or so.
anastasia81472 8 months ago
@anastasia81472 u would be better off watching amuteur porn with real people fucking. I kind of like that too but sometimes I want to see hard degrading shit too. Porn is all about fantasy. The main problem with her argument is that she believes fantasy dictates reality. It is actually the other way around and reality dictates fantasy. Human sexuality is very complex and diverse and trying to force people into some cookie cutter sexual experiences does work.
smoothbrother69 4 months ago
You people think your going to end pornogrophy? Well i got news for you there are more porn websites than there are people on planet earth so good luck.
bbdog141414 8 months ago
wait wait wait... hold the phone.... She says that Good sex and sexuality is based on peoples desires and experiences???? but wtf does that even mean???? Desires and experiences can have an extremely wide range of meanings.... wtf???? I was agreeing with everything until she threw in a totally ridiculous statement that has no meaning whatsoever
SWIFTzTrigger 8 months ago
She's making girls sound like simple minded people that can easily be brainwashed by men.....it's women like her that are holding women down....not men
690169 8 months ago
@690169 Actually its women in the porn industry that have no self respect and want to make a quick buck that let shit like this happen and turn men into women abusing sex hungry mysoginists and make women seem like they can look their noses down on us.
SWIFTzTrigger 8 months ago
@SWIFTzTrigger they might want to make money like that, but they by no means MAKE men into anything, they have no creative control in that industry and the women that do rise in the ranks still tow the misogynist line, don't change a thing and blame the market forces.
boobootoob 8 months ago
@boobootoob alright, that is true Ill admit, but they are all part of the problem as far as I am concerned its true the people that market it are the true evil doers however without the women that take part there would be no porn at all. But its true lets blame the guys at the top first.
SWIFTzTrigger 8 months ago
@SWIFTzTrigger
Well I'm not going to degrade anyones job.....alot of girls in the porn industry love sex and wouldnt do anything else and I have no problem with it until.....their career in porn is over and they go on a crusade to stop porn and blame everyone for their mistakes in porn and don't blame the one their suppose to blame the one in the mirror....also I keep hearing women are the victims but what about the men it's always about the women but there are men in porn as well
690169 8 months ago
@690169 Very strange ethics you have... Porn has led a decadent society, or rather a more decadent society, Boys I know all talk about doing odd sexual acts and "destroying" women, and Girls have increasing loss of self-esteem. Blind yourself if you wish from the facts however things will get worse and worse until something snaps and that is when things will turn ugly. Btw 27% of all americans have a mental illness at anyone time, Society is degrading as we speak, Porn is a contributer to this.
SWIFTzTrigger 8 months ago
@SWIFTzTrigger
What? My ethics are strange? Please elaborate
I'm just speaking the truth on what porn stars have said in interviews and such
690169 8 months ago
@690169 they get into porn because that is the low point of their lives then after they go into it, only then do they realise the true horrors that it entails.
you have no problem with porn, which is essentially allowing you to view 2 prostitutes having sex, which is available to anyone with internet access, children of any age able to use the internet. but you have a problem when they speak against Porn because it degrades people?
I find that a very strange ethic, if it can be called an ethic
SWIFTzTrigger 8 months ago
@SWIFTzTrigger
No no no no no.....I have a problem when women or men make money off of being a porn star for years and years and then when they retire or "Find jesus" it is then when they go against porn and wanting to stop it sure after they make a killing off being a porn star...it's very hypocritical
690169 8 months ago
@690169 True that is very hypocritical, however Ive never come across such a case. But either way I dont dislike what they do because either way they are still talking against porn.
SWIFTzTrigger 8 months ago
@690169 Do you say that about any other kind of worker that needs rights? Sweat shop workers? Are they stupid? Does it matter? People are not all the same, it's rather sexist to suggest that all women are the same, like if you suggest that some 18 yr old with any variety of educational level possible could not POSSIBLY be naive, and that saying so is a knock on all women is to deny the VARIETY of people that women are, You are the one doing that, and nobody else.
boobootoob 8 months ago
@boobootoob
Sweat shop workers? come on seriously? lol
Listen 18 year olds are adults and when they (Men and women) go into the porn biusness they know what their getting into...that's another thing that women Gale Dines made it seem as if it were only women that were the victims in the porn industry....well if you're going to say that then are'nt the men as well? Like I said they know what their getting into and some people will go the extra legnth to pay the bills so Gale should shut up
690169 8 months ago
I could never have sex with a woman who isn't shaved.
sigurjong 8 months ago
@namasteywhat Well her former protege is a chummy of mine.
jordanowen42 8 months ago
"there is no porn in a just society." Thank you gail dines.
betharina18 8 months ago 3
When one of my inside sources told me that Gail keeps track of her students' pubic hair, I wished I had some way to prove it so I could talk about it. And now, she admits it openly!
jordanowen42 8 months ago
@jordanowen42 Well the quote came early enough. I guess she takes polls cause I've never shown my pubes to a professor.
godshiva 8 months ago
@godshiva Beth said she can just walk in and ask if they shave their crotches. Its a wonder she doesn't have them take off their panties and squat over a mirror.
jordanowen42 8 months ago
helpful thoughts... i wonder about her hopes for creating a just society through social action though. aren't the people she calls to mobalise also slaves of the porn industry themselves?
something needs to be done, agreed. il pray that Jesus comes back for a start :)
lordofpie1 8 months ago