@ScientificStandard is assuming the earth moves. Therefore your parallax base is 300,000 km when in fact it is actually 12,756 km....a difference of over 2300% . Accurate determination of the distance to even Alpha Centauri is impossible to calculate on such a narrow base. False assumptions are your downfall.
I read the update at the end.... did he seriously say that ellipses would not come close to closing? I think he might want to take a look at what an ellipse is...
Can you explain the procession of the equinoxes as depicted in the Zeitgeist movie? I would like a greater understanding of the Age of Aquarius , Pisces , Taurus, ect
I like this video. It makes me happy. When will you make more? I am an ignorant dolt and want to learn more about space. Surely there are space topics to discuss.
@UninstallingWindows You can take such an image anywhere, and the apparent centre of rotation will deviate from the zenith by an equal degree to your latitude from the nearest pole. At the equator, you would see both celestial poles at the points where the meridian line intersects the horizon.
Ummmm, but that picture doesn't say anything about orbit, it is the result of the earth's rotation. You actually can't prove anything about the Earth's orbit based on that picture.
@AndromedasWake Nephi is claiming that if the earth orbited the sun, the star lines would be horizontal in the photo, but because they are a circle, that means the universe orbits the earth. He is ignoring that the earth's rotation is why the lines are in a circle. So Nephi is the one trying to discuss the earth's orbit, or not, from the photo.
i could not find a video of yours that would match the question i want to ask,,so forgive me for being totally off topic,that being said,my question is about the earth wobble is it true that over time i suspect millions of years that the wobble would turn the earth,in other words the north pole and south pole would be in line with the equater ...do you think that is accruate ,thanks for reading.
@johndebbra Our best estimates suggests that this won't happen, due to the dynamic stability of the precession of the Earth's axis of angular momentum. Flipping it over completely would require a significant change in torque, such as a collision with another planetary body.
@AndromedasWake thanks for the reply i was scolded a few times lol saying earth wobble was actually called Axial Precession,anyway it is a topic i am fascinated with if you have the time to make a vid or post more about it i would appreciate it thank you.
Nephilimfree should read up on Tycho Brahe. He was a Danish astronomer, who proposed a geocentric model because he could not observe any parallax movement. I sympathise with him, he was no idiot, it just wasn't known in those days how far even the closest stars are to us, and the specific model he proposed was able to predict the movements of the planets accurately. He died in 1601, and parallax wasn't observed until the 19th century.
@yuo252 Explain the fact that I've taken unedited star-trail pictures. Explain the fact that you, too can take such a picture by exposing your camera for long enough. Why would editing be required, at all?
That's why is so puzzling to observe this guy attitude!
He knows a lot about anything and, he applies that knowledge in the most weird (rather grotesque) way possible!
He knows some about biology ( more than me, that's for sure). he knows a lot about the bible ( much, much more than me). he knows some about geology ( more than me). He's English is much more richer than mine, his talking skills are quite impressive, yet...He's an obvious, deluded idiot !
@MrJurekGG He actually doesn't know very much (most of what he knows is pseudo-science taken from creationist websites). The reason you are more intelligent than him, even though you might know less about certain things, is that you realise that he doesn't realise how little he actually knows - he thinks he is an expert and is ina position from which it is impossible to learn. You realise that there are things which you don't know - that's a starting point to obtaining any knowledge you want.
Your lengthy explanation of parallax is not correctly applied. Parallax isn't even part of the equation when photographing a 12 hr period. It's like saying the height of the camera off the ground is more or less than it should be. It makes no difference. There should not be concentric circles if the earth is moving.
@KJVWordofGod Yes they should. Absolutely. Unless the Earth is moving SO FAST, or the stars are SO CLOSE that parallax is detected on your camera's sensor. Even if you exposed for 6 months, the nearest star would shift by less than one arc-second, less than the resolution of a ground-based amateur telescope. Ergo parallax will never be detectable and stars should trace concentric circles. Go ahead, prove me wrong.
@AndromedasWake Its even worse I believe. Even if the stars showed orders of magnitude more change/parallax than observed, the exposure time of 12 hours versus half a year (factor 365) would make parallax virtually absent still....The earths movement in space is so small compared to the axis rotation (relatively speaking), an explanation of parallax is even redundant. But I dont have to tell YOU that....:)
Neph is wrong on everything. He is clearly mentally ill/challenged. I'm surprised he doesn't state that he is the new messiah. I bet he considers himself to be a kind of prophet though.
@biggingeryeti "I bet he considers himself to be a kind of prophet though."
Ofc he does. He has stated quite clearly that god told him personally to use youtube to spread the word of god. If the god of abraham chooses as incompetent people as Neph to represent him I don't think we have to worry about that god either.
@7:19 "Did you notice that the star circles do not match up properly? That's because of the wobble of the Earth alone"
I'd love to know what he means by that. I can't ask him cause he's blocked me. But it sounds like he's looking at the "circles" and not understanding that any full "circle" is actually more than one star! In the unlikely event that you read this Nephy, one star can't create a full circle in 12 hours! Get ye to the North Pole Nephy and try a 24 hr exposure :)
if anyone else wants things to laugh at go to flatearth society they even say they have mathmatical proof the earth is flat lol along with that go look at hollow earth theorist they believe the earth has a hollow center i wish i was joking but both these group are true and they actually believe what they say.
Attending a photography course does not make one a professional photographer.
Sigh.
And I doubt it would make any difference if I presented Neph with a long-exposure photo of the stars, taken at the equator, where the star trails would infact be (close to) straight lines.
I have subbed to him because of the incredible off-the-wall entertainment value.
BTW, how do you "grab" other posted YouTube videos?
let me get this straight,this guy nef actually believes the earth doesnt go around the sun?This is why religion must be banned,because when you take any book holy or not and after its been proven wrong you claim that no matter what proof there is,your book must be right because its your gods words.if this wasnt so scary,it would be laughable
too bad you didn't explain why we see what we see in that pic'. all you basiclly did was say that if earth was moving around the sun, we would see dots, not lines. but we are seeing circles, and you kinda didn't explain why we are seeing circle (which is, because earth is spinning)
I don't think Nephilim is worthy of scorn...more of my pity. I watched his videos and he so sincerely believes it...All I can think is that he's a bit of a pathetic man. In the sense that he's worthy of pity.
The "modern" geocentric model differs from the Ptolemaic model and accounts for parallax and retrograde motion by stating that the entire universe rotates around our Sun, which in turn revolves around the Earth.
@rrward Imagine how fast the objects furthest from us would have to be going in order to navigate the circumference of the universe in one year. I asked Nephy about parallax, and he referred me to this guy's channel.. /user/MalcolmBowden#p/u I think ol' Malcolm there is the geocentrists' go to science guy. I recommend you not be eating or drinking anything if you decide to watch any of his vids, or you might end up making a mess of your monitor.
Did you people know there's a Flat Earth Society in the UK which expanded to other countries and the actually BELIEVE that the Earth is FLAT? Google it!!
Lol, I've seen stuff like that. There is also Hollow Earthers - people who believe the earth is hollow. It's not wonder religion has such a firm grasp in society when people are stupid enough to actually think stuff like this; things which are directly contradicted by all observable phenomena.
@LesPaul2006 "Did you people know there's a Flat Earth Society in the UK"
What a complete load of idiots. They still talk about "the ether" which was disproved over 100 years ago, and also say that if someone went to the south pole they'd fall off the underside of the globe. I'm still searching the site for references to four large elephants and a turtle ;-)
I think its kind of totally fucked up people are attacking this guy, he is clearly insane. I just has a mental issue and he needs serious help. nep is one of those people that might have had mercury put in there coffee one to many times.
@thesparitan Ohhhh that's mean! LOLOLOL Unfortunately, Neph is not the only one of these characters. You should all check out Robert Sungenis's website. I sure hope this is needless to say, but Sungenis does not represent any sort of mainstream Catholic thought.
I wonder how NF thinks gravity works. Since he thinks the Sun orbits around the Earth perhaps he thinks the Earht has more mass than the Sun. Or perhaps he thinks only the Earth has gravity.
If he really wanted to reach people, then he wouldn't ban/insult them for simply answering his questions. He aims for a target audience... The ignorant.
I seem to be an idiot. I get that it wasn't caused by the parallax effect, but why are the star traces circular? I've seen night sky time-lapses and the stars in no way move in a circular manner (like in this video /watch?v=AyNmKTKlsps). I could understand if it was near the poles, but, judging by the pictures, it's not the case. Please be gentle.
Yes, Nephilimfree's ignorance is profound, boundless, and unmatched. It is stupifying (and he's lying through his facial asshole... he never went to Rochester).
The photo has nothing to do with the Earths orbit around the sun, it has to do with Earths rotation on its axis.
There is always a star straight on from pov of the Earths axis called a "pole star."
The stars - Polaris or the Southern cross have been photographed like this thousands of times. Nephy's such a fucktard.
In order for a 24 hour spinning universe, it would have to be vastly smaller and spreading outward in a plane due to great centrifugal force. If the universe is much smaller, why do stars appear as tiny specks when looking at them through amateur telescopes? Simply due to weak magnification?
In the Tycho Brahe's geocentric model, why would planets chose to orbit the sun but not the earth? They don't and outer planet retrograde are lies?
I spoke to his mate shockofgod, he has a question, "Why is atheism correct and accurate". I said that I associated accurate with numbers, so I didn't know what he meant by that. Basically he said that no agruments would convince him that it was true and that nothing beacause he didn't respect atheists. I just thought, "wanker"
May I point out that not all creationists (including myself) believe in geocentrism. It's not part of the theology of God's creation; there is no indication of it in Scripture. Basically, I'm asking you not to dismiss the existence of God just because some people have formulated these wrong ideas.
A friend of mine once got extremely annoyed with me because I assumed that because he was a christian, he must be a creationist. He actually believes in evolution... he said something to the tune of " don't dismiss Christianity just because some Christians have the wrong ideas" I'm sure If I asked a Muslim he'd say don't dismiss the "right" religion just because all the others have it wrong.... see the pattern?
@jizzfish The intent of my comment wasn't to argue the theological credibility of Christianity versus other faiths. All I wanted to point out was that just because this fellow is a Christian (or merely claims to be one) does not imply that blind belief in a concept as clearly false as geocentrism is part of any Christian doctrine. A discussion about which religion is right is a different matter.
@jizzfish OK, I see. :) I haven't seen any of Neph's videos, but from what I saw here, I certainly would not pitch in alongside him. While he may be redeemed, for which the base requirement is to confess our sins to Christ and accept Him as our Lord (I don't know if Neph has done this), it makes no sense for him to deny an obvious scientific truth. The way I see it, God made us a rational and fascinating universe so we could explore and learn about it.
basically nephilimfree parades around youtube, spreading ignorance.
whether or not he actually believes half the shit that spews out of his second asshole, nobody will ever know. But the fact remains that he is set on the futile act of corrupting
as many minds as possible, appropriating "science" to fit his own needs and blindly refuting anything, no matter how obviously true that goes against the word of the bible, and his own brand of "logic"...
creapy creapy creapy O.O i hadnt seen that clip of Neph before, if there is a heaven(and i dont think there is), and i go there when i die, i hope to god (just an expression) that i can spend eternity without ever seeing him there
Since I´m not sure if NephilimFree will aprrove or even answer my comment on his chanel I will ask the geocentrists who might read it here the same question:
How do you explain the Foucault pendulum and the fact that there are two flood tide and ebb tide cycles a day?
.the notion of black hole mean that it has a mass and if the light may be absorbed by the black holes; why it cannot be curved by the black holes and the stars in its arriving to the earth?...I mean; did we make mistakes in our estimation of the stars position? And if the light can be absorbed by a black hole weighting 8 times our sun; why it cannot be curved by our sun ?and why the light speed in vacuum cannot increase if we go to a black hole?
Since I´m not sure if NephilimFree will aprrove or even answer my comment on his chanel I will ask the geocentrists who might read it here the same question:
How do you explain the Foucault pendulum and the fact that there are two flood tide and ebb tide cycles a day?
Since I´m not sure if NephilimFree will aprrove or even answer my comment on his chanel I will ask the geocentrists who might read it here the same question:
How do you explain the Foucault pendulum and the fact that there are two flood tide and ebb tide cycles a day?
Since I´m not sure if NephilimFree will aprrove or even answer my comment on his chanel I will ask the geocentrists who might read it here the same question:
How do you explain the Foucault pendulum and the fact that there are two flood tide and ebb tide cycles a day?
@supawooky Since I´m not sure if NephilimFree will aprrove or even answer my comment on his chanel I will ask the geocentrists who might read it here the same question:
How do you explain the Foucault pendulum and the fact that there are two flood tide and ebb tide cycles a day?
Andromeda: Excellent video, thoroughly and concisely stripping the facade off Neph's ludicrous geocentrism claim.
One suggestion: the update at the end appears too briefly and is hard to pause. Could you extend the length of time that that annotation appears? It is important to the issue since it shows that Neph's rebuttal was fallacious. Tnx
Hmm Neph sucks are photography i guess thats why hes out of work for 3 years. And hes also a lazy parasite. A geocentris? Just wow, you live in the first world and the richest country in the word built on science, to belive in something thats been disproven 350 years ago. Guess Neph found his new job, a Google scientist.
jesus wore a wig. i have proof. in the gospel of Frank it says that he went bald and they made him a wig of seaweed, but it was infested with baracles, so they made one of straw. it was good. they noticed all the sheep followed him all over the place. then they noticed the people followed him like the sheep. till this day they follow him.
Right after I watch this I got blocked by this batshit crazy mother fucker for asking "How do you know Christianity is true when many other religions are almost exactly the same as Christianity and even make more sense than than Christianity?"
The belief that the earth is flat is no different to atheism, really.
The people who say they've been all the way around the world might have lied for no reason, like atheistic logic allows where they say the writers of the Bible lied for no reason atall and without motivation.
Anybody who has read the Bible properly can recall the many scriptures which destroy the ideas of the writers wanting money or power, and many passages which make no sense unless miracles really did happen.
@TheColaGoodfellow Delusions maybe? Merely being told the wrong information? Metaphors? You know right that you can do mathematical calculations that the Earth is spherical. I cannot do the same with the legitimacy of the Bible.
Anyway say that, because the Bible contains some moral messages it is the truth (just as a setup), what about every other holy book of every other religion? Why are they wrong? Surely they were wrote with the same reasons, surely they aren't wrong/lying.
Most other holy books are not comprised of 66 books/letters wrote in periods of time so far apart they couldn't have been comprised as a conspiracy of any form.
The first person to call someone else a liar when they had no motivation is probably the least reliable. The nature of the different holy books is a good implication as to whether or not they were comprised for the wrong reasons.
@TheColaGoodfellow Well the whole old testament is essentially Judaism and does contredict the new testament a lot. Islam uses many of the books of the Bible similarly just with more apparent changes. The Tipitaka of Buddhism was not written by the Buddha, but his followers after his death and thus was written by essentially a community and over a period of time (not as long as proposed in the Bible I suppose)
Anyway this kinda distracts from the point, a lot of assumptions are being made....
@TheColaGoodfellow ... about the Bible, so you simple assume its fact that the Bible was written by people who weren't aware of each other's existence and their own respective books. If I read the Bible, I can technically follow what it says and write a new one that corresponds.
Equally, what if even the new testament doesn't correspond with itself. Many books written supposedly by disciples were discarded by the Christian council in the 2nd century, because they were contredictory.
Using Delusions as an excuse is the equivalent to saying 44 people whose airplane crashed onto an island were all under a delusion and none of it really happened. That's the nature of the miracles are in the Bible.
The Bible isn't all stories, some of them are letters, which, again, treat the miracles as real.
@TheColaGoodfellow If I did a magic trick and all of my audience thought it was real magic, would that be deception and delusion of a large mass? Well 'miracles' follow that kind of event, not a plane crash. Let's say a man recovers from an illness a day after a supposed holy man walks in the room. Coincidence of the direct effect of the holy man's presence. At the time everybody would believe the latter.
Anyway it seems you believe that the Bible is evidence for itself. Nevermind.
Bible miracles are not as unclear as what you're talking about.
Most of the miracles involve some obvious action by the prophet such as them saying "Walk, your faith has healed you", and the miracles themselves are often at the time the prophet asks. And the scriptures mention thousands of these occuring.
@TheColaGoodfellow Read my last line again. You believe that because it says in the Bible that a prophet said a phrase then he must have and that there must have been a miracles. You use this to show that the Bible is true. Circular logic if you ask me.
Outside of the Bible are you given any reason to believe that this is a direct quotation and an accurate description of the scenario. Psychology shows how inaccurate witness testimony can be even in the case of murder etc etc.
Well I'm not going to assume they're all liars when they had little motivation to do so, am I? The things they said destroy the idea of them wanting money or power (unless they wanted to be servents).
"He who wants to be the greatest among you must serve."
In one of the letters, an apostle actively says "I don't want your material possessions".
One could look for any excuse not to believe somebody, but that is often done for the wrong reasons.
"Psychology shows how inaccurate witness testimony can be even in the case of murder etc etc." False information isn't alwayfs about direct lying. Above I've shown one example and others are delusions, simply being given the wrong information, metaphorical writing. Usually its a bit of everything.
Again I come round to other religions, if you are simply going to believe something if it is apparent they aren't greedy, why not believe in any other religion. Why are they wrong?
If you have read the whole Bible and can actually call all of those miracles coincidence/delusion, then I worry what you'd think if a prophet came today. You still wouldn't believe.
Even if they did hundreds of thousands of healings, walked of water in the middle of a stormy ocean, calmed a stormy ocean at their own command, turned water into wine, brought multiple people from different cities back to the dead, parted an ocean so that there was giant walls on either side, and more...
@TheColaGoodfellow Me denying a book's legitimacy is akin to denying multiple, direct, personal instaces of observation, is that what you are trying to say?
Personally I would request a controlled instance which is measured and controlled to minimise to chances of deceit or wrong interpretation. That doesn't happen in the Bible, we never get to measure and verify any of the instances of miracles in the Bible, we are simply told, by one source, a short and incomplete description by his eyes.
@TheColaGoodfellow The Bible is a single source of information. To make the assumption that there are multiple writers firstly requires evidence, and secondly, doesn't change the fact it is still a single source when it comes to each scenario written about in the Bible.
Even if it were to be considered a multiple source, it still can't be measured, tested and verified.
Why the hell is my computer not writing the word description correctly maybe it is just Youtube.
Surely you've done your research? Everyone knows that the Bible originated as 66 seperate books/letters wrote over the period of around 1000 years by different people. Archealogy shows it, and so do the writing styles within the books.
With any scripture I am forced to either base my beliefs on the amount of scriptures they have, the dates they were each wrote and the claims within. I also have to base it on the context, whether or not they're letters or books/documentaries.
Well the authors of the books aren't confirmed, there is skepticism whether or not the people who wrote them truely did, for instance with Revelations. But anyhow, tbh you are right in saying they is evidence to suggest multiple authors, however that isn't my point. In each miraculous instance within the Bible there is only one writer talking it directly, and it can be questioned if that single piece of anecdotal evidence is accurate or reliable.
@TheColaGoodfellow AAAAAARGHH Youtube can't spell words correctly anymore, I'm guess 'ure is a mispelling, because d e s c r i p t i o n keeps coming out as deion like i can't spell the work s c r i p t, if so ure is obviously s c r i p t ure
Wasn't retrograde motion explained by an ancient Greek who argued that the planets revolved in little circles around larger circles? Then didn't they add more circles because that explanation didn't work too well? meh, I'm sure that someone else has mentioned this in the comments below, but I'm not about to read 7 pages of them because I'm a lazy bastard.
How come the video has been made private?
croutonfada 8 months ago
@ScientificStandard is assuming the earth moves. Therefore your parallax base is 300,000 km when in fact it is actually 12,756 km....a difference of over 2300% . Accurate determination of the distance to even Alpha Centauri is impossible to calculate on such a narrow base. False assumptions are your downfall.
KJVWordofGod 9 months ago
Tycho Brahe made the stars argument in the 1600s..... when we didn't have the telescopes powerful enough to see the change.
nospacesallowed 9 months ago
Education is brain cancer to creationists.
They would rather eat a dog turd than learn something that contradicts the Bible.
Zed1967 9 months ago
@Zed1967 .....so when is your birthday? In case it's close.....Happy 11th birthday!
KJVWordofGod 9 months ago
I read the update at the end.... did he seriously say that ellipses would not come close to closing? I think he might want to take a look at what an ellipse is...
LeonhardEuler1 10 months ago
Can you explain the procession of the equinoxes as depicted in the Zeitgeist movie? I would like a greater understanding of the Age of Aquarius , Pisces , Taurus, ect
Thanks for making these videos. I'm subbing now.
derman077 10 months ago
Damn.
Glad I have the whole atlantic ocean between him and me.
MrFalconfly 10 months ago
@MrFalconfly I am also glad that the entire pacific ocean is between him and me ;-)
emancoy 9 months ago
I like this video. It makes me happy. When will you make more? I am an ignorant dolt and want to learn more about space. Surely there are space topics to discuss.
warbread 10 months ago
i think such image could be taken on earths poles, recording parallel with earths rotational axis.
UninstallingWindows 10 months ago
@UninstallingWindows You can take such an image anywhere, and the apparent centre of rotation will deviate from the zenith by an equal degree to your latitude from the nearest pole. At the equator, you would see both celestial poles at the points where the meridian line intersects the horizon.
AndromedasWake 10 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
i wanna see more duckies!
Shaggy2DopeJR 10 months ago
Ok, you have to be a REAL DUMBASS to believe the Earth is at the center of the universe.
Can someone send this Nephilim idiot to a librery? PLEEEEASE?
QuestionAll1 10 months ago
Ummmm, but that picture doesn't say anything about orbit, it is the result of the earth's rotation. You actually can't prove anything about the Earth's orbit based on that picture.
kalligraphy1 10 months ago
@kalligraphy1 No. How is that relevant? No one is attempting to prove this.
AndromedasWake 10 months ago
@AndromedasWake Nephi is claiming that if the earth orbited the sun, the star lines would be horizontal in the photo, but because they are a circle, that means the universe orbits the earth. He is ignoring that the earth's rotation is why the lines are in a circle. So Nephi is the one trying to discuss the earth's orbit, or not, from the photo.
kalligraphy1 10 months ago
Woah... My idea of paradise does not include creepy superstitious morons.
OldSchoolSkill 10 months ago
i could not find a video of yours that would match the question i want to ask,,so forgive me for being totally off topic,that being said,my question is about the earth wobble is it true that over time i suspect millions of years that the wobble would turn the earth,in other words the north pole and south pole would be in line with the equater ...do you think that is accruate ,thanks for reading.
johndebbra 11 months ago
@johndebbra Our best estimates suggests that this won't happen, due to the dynamic stability of the precession of the Earth's axis of angular momentum. Flipping it over completely would require a significant change in torque, such as a collision with another planetary body.
AndromedasWake 10 months ago
@AndromedasWake thanks for the reply i was scolded a few times lol saying earth wobble was actually called Axial Precession,anyway it is a topic i am fascinated with if you have the time to make a vid or post more about it i would appreciate it thank you.
johndebbra 10 months ago
This still cracks me up! Nephie is crying with dip in his mouth!
Stromatolite577 11 months ago
Nephilimfree should read up on Tycho Brahe. He was a Danish astronomer, who proposed a geocentric model because he could not observe any parallax movement. I sympathise with him, he was no idiot, it just wasn't known in those days how far even the closest stars are to us, and the specific model he proposed was able to predict the movements of the planets accurately. He died in 1601, and parallax wasn't observed until the 19th century.
What's Nephilimfree's excuse?
strakha0 11 months ago
i dunno man. i get the feeling that u somehow are in league with the devil, and this photographer guy is on the good side.
...im just saying. i could be wrong though. but how will u prove that u are not!?
fact!!
CT2507 11 months ago
To the part about the Circle star Pictures Ever heard of Editing?
yuo252 11 months ago
@yuo252 Explain the fact that I've taken unedited star-trail pictures. Explain the fact that you, too can take such a picture by exposing your camera for long enough. Why would editing be required, at all?
AndromedasWake 10 months ago
211 geocentrists have seen this, so far.
uriituw 11 months ago
NephilimFree is an imbecile who knows nothing of science.
mikefromwa 11 months ago
Parallax the enemy of the green lantern and nephillimfree
noliesundead 11 months ago
Are you really trying to prove that Earth revolves around the Sun.
He is a retard. Point proven. Time to move on.
0baalberith0 11 months ago
Myth busted!
Charlymaumushi 11 months ago
Wow, that plea from Nephy was UBER creepy! Hahaha I was wondering about the music, I'm actually glad it was on his video :D
s8ntmark 11 months ago
You DIDN'T add the music? LMFAO
yermomsboxx 11 months ago
Rapist Glasses?
djdanaman 11 months ago 2
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seven7arrows 11 months ago
Using reason and evidence to "refute" this guy; isn't that kind of like swatting a fly with a sledge hammer?
BauraKale 11 months ago
It's even scarier because.... Nephy is actually rather intelligent
xESOTERlC 11 months ago
@xESOTERlC
That's why is so puzzling to observe this guy attitude!
He knows a lot about anything and, he applies that knowledge in the most weird (rather grotesque) way possible!
He knows some about biology ( more than me, that's for sure). he knows a lot about the bible ( much, much more than me). he knows some about geology ( more than me). He's English is much more richer than mine, his talking skills are quite impressive, yet...He's an obvious, deluded idiot !
???
Go figure...
MrJurekGG 11 months ago
@MrJurekGG He actually doesn't know very much (most of what he knows is pseudo-science taken from creationist websites). The reason you are more intelligent than him, even though you might know less about certain things, is that you realise that he doesn't realise how little he actually knows - he thinks he is an expert and is ina position from which it is impossible to learn. You realise that there are things which you don't know - that's a starting point to obtaining any knowledge you want.
antonc81 11 months ago
'NephilimFree' looks like the pedophile killer from 'The Lovely Bones'.
AnkHknA 11 months ago 20
@AnkHknA He is.
yuo252 11 months ago
epshot@ I get the same feeling. The first time I saw him cry, I thought, this guy is a joker
ClamCrunchy 11 months ago
I have a strange gut feeling that Neph is actually is doing a really really hard satire.
epshot 11 months ago
@epshot there's no way some unemployed dude in his room is that good of an actor.
BillKiernan 11 months ago
man, now i want some baby space ducks. we quack in peace?
TAXEXEMPTION 1 year ago
@TAXEXEMPTION Space ducks "Quark"
AnonaThetan 1 year ago
Your lengthy explanation of parallax is not correctly applied. Parallax isn't even part of the equation when photographing a 12 hr period. It's like saying the height of the camera off the ground is more or less than it should be. It makes no difference. There should not be concentric circles if the earth is moving.
KJVWordofGod 1 year ago
@KJVWordofGod,
Can you please explain a little more about why you reject this explanation?
doireallyneed1 1 year ago
@KJVWordofGod Yes they should. Absolutely. Unless the Earth is moving SO FAST, or the stars are SO CLOSE that parallax is detected on your camera's sensor. Even if you exposed for 6 months, the nearest star would shift by less than one arc-second, less than the resolution of a ground-based amateur telescope. Ergo parallax will never be detectable and stars should trace concentric circles. Go ahead, prove me wrong.
AndromedasWake 1 year ago 18
@AndromedasWake Its even worse I believe. Even if the stars showed orders of magnitude more change/parallax than observed, the exposure time of 12 hours versus half a year (factor 365) would make parallax virtually absent still....The earths movement in space is so small compared to the axis rotation (relatively speaking), an explanation of parallax is even redundant. But I dont have to tell YOU that....:)
jzuidema 11 months ago
@KJVWordofGod Age 55... hmm is this Neph?
sclf 1 year ago
@KJVWordofGod really? you really believe the earth isnt moving?
TheMysteriousAtheist 11 months ago
It is worthy of note that Nephy is now not allowing coments on any of his videos. I cannot for the life of me imagine why.
Aarbutusfigeroa 1 year ago
"I have made many night time photographs"
No, I'm not going to say it. Waaaaaay to easy.
MeBeMat 1 year ago
If Heph was capable of comprehending this video he wouldn't be a creationist in the first place.
WildcardHatesYou 1 year ago
Neph is wrong on everything. He is clearly mentally ill/challenged. I'm surprised he doesn't state that he is the new messiah. I bet he considers himself to be a kind of prophet though.
biggingeryeti 1 year ago
@biggingeryeti "I bet he considers himself to be a kind of prophet though."
Ofc he does. He has stated quite clearly that god told him personally to use youtube to spread the word of god. If the god of abraham chooses as incompetent people as Neph to represent him I don't think we have to worry about that god either.
byteresistor 1 year ago
It seems 209 people that viewed this videos are geo-centrists , go figure.
johnrainrules 1 year ago
@johnrainrules ...since when do the majority ever get it right? Most people are sheep.
KJVWordofGod 1 year ago
@KJVWordofGod Most people do get it right about the solar system being helio-centric.
johnrainrules 1 year ago
@KJVWordofGod So... "Most people believe X, therefore X is false"? Sorry, reverse argumentum ad populum is still argumentum ad populum.
RedGreenInBlue 1 year ago
Wait wait.. they teach you astronomy and astrophysics in Photography School?
danoso0931 1 year ago
"I am a trainer photographer"
OH GOOOOOOOOD FOR YOU!!!!
rofl lolololol fucking pwned.
superwowie111 1 year ago
@7:19 "Did you notice that the star circles do not match up properly? That's because of the wobble of the Earth alone"
I'd love to know what he means by that. I can't ask him cause he's blocked me. But it sounds like he's looking at the "circles" and not understanding that any full "circle" is actually more than one star! In the unlikely event that you read this Nephy, one star can't create a full circle in 12 hours! Get ye to the North Pole Nephy and try a 24 hr exposure :)
kandtell 1 year ago
if anyone else wants things to laugh at go to flatearth society they even say they have mathmatical proof the earth is flat lol along with that go look at hollow earth theorist they believe the earth has a hollow center i wish i was joking but both these group are true and they actually believe what they say.
johndebbra 1 year ago
209 out of 3808 voting people believe the earth is in the middle of the universe
klootzakisme 1 year ago
I loved old Nephys video when he said that.
Attending a photography course does not make one a professional photographer.
Sigh.
And I doubt it would make any difference if I presented Neph with a long-exposure photo of the stars, taken at the equator, where the star trails would infact be (close to) straight lines.
I have subbed to him because of the incredible off-the-wall entertainment value.
BTW, how do you "grab" other posted YouTube videos?
ChickenHawk110 1 year ago
@ChickenHawk110
I use keepvid DOT com
I think that there are also extensions for Firefox that do a similar job, and a handful of desktop programs. But I think keepvid's pretty good.
Anonamouse7 1 year ago
I would think that a lunar eclipse will disprove geocentricsm. If the moon is moving with the stars, why is it going backwards into earths shadow.
Cinnarbar 1 year ago
let me get this straight,this guy nef actually believes the earth doesnt go around the sun?This is why religion must be banned,because when you take any book holy or not and after its been proven wrong you claim that no matter what proof there is,your book must be right because its your gods words.if this wasnt so scary,it would be laughable
ranchai100 1 year ago
too bad you didn't explain why we see what we see in that pic'. all you basiclly did was say that if earth was moving around the sun, we would see dots, not lines. but we are seeing circles, and you kinda didn't explain why we are seeing circle (which is, because earth is spinning)
eyallev 1 year ago
Imagine - you're in "paradise" and this dipshit is there. What kind of messed-up afterlife is that?
domaataajs 1 year ago
@domaataajs
LMAO! Seriously...
I wouldn't want to spend one sec near him much less eternity.
wl0883 1 year ago
I don't think Nephilim is worthy of scorn...more of my pity. I watched his videos and he so sincerely believes it...All I can think is that he's a bit of a pathetic man. In the sense that he's worthy of pity.
Darthmas2242 1 year ago
The "modern" geocentric model differs from the Ptolemaic model and accounts for parallax and retrograde motion by stating that the entire universe rotates around our Sun, which in turn revolves around the Earth.
Cloudsofdust 1 year ago
@Cloudsofdust Wow. That's even dumber than the Ptolemaic model. The mental gymnastics people go through to deny the obvious is amazing.
rrward 1 year ago
@rrward Imagine how fast the objects furthest from us would have to be going in order to navigate the circumference of the universe in one year. I asked Nephy about parallax, and he referred me to this guy's channel.. /user/MalcolmBowden#p/u I think ol' Malcolm there is the geocentrists' go to science guy. I recommend you not be eating or drinking anything if you decide to watch any of his vids, or you might end up making a mess of your monitor.
Cloudsofdust 1 year ago
Nephs timing was a bit off.
corthew 1 year ago
Did you people know there's a Flat Earth Society in the UK which expanded to other countries and the actually BELIEVE that the Earth is FLAT? Google it!!
LesPaul2006 1 year ago
@LesPaul2006
Lol, I've seen stuff like that. There is also Hollow Earthers - people who believe the earth is hollow. It's not wonder religion has such a firm grasp in society when people are stupid enough to actually think stuff like this; things which are directly contradicted by all observable phenomena.
Vire70 1 year ago
@LesPaul2006 "Did you people know there's a Flat Earth Society in the UK"
What a complete load of idiots. They still talk about "the ether" which was disproved over 100 years ago, and also say that if someone went to the south pole they'd fall off the underside of the globe. I'm still searching the site for references to four large elephants and a turtle ;-)
mandolinic 1 year ago
@LesPaul2006 Arrgghh! I don't believe it. I fell for a spoof site, not the real one. Is my face red! Mind you, the real site isn't much better...
mandolinic 1 year ago
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mrbearbear83 1 year ago
@mrbearbear83 It takes 24 hours for the Earth to complete one full rotation. It takes 365 days for the Earth to go around the sun.
bonanzaguy04 1 year ago
@bonanzaguy04 Wow I'm thick, I just noticed my own mistake.... thanks.
mrbearbear83 1 year ago
I think its kind of totally fucked up people are attacking this guy, he is clearly insane. I just has a mental issue and he needs serious help. nep is one of those people that might have had mercury put in there coffee one to many times.
thesparitan 1 year ago
@thesparitan Ohhhh that's mean! LOLOLOL Unfortunately, Neph is not the only one of these characters. You should all check out Robert Sungenis's website. I sure hope this is needless to say, but Sungenis does not represent any sort of mainstream Catholic thought.
upsilon054 1 year ago
I thought the music was lovely, after he stopped speaking, and if I wasnt looking at the video.
You rock andromedaswake
Krandolph17 1 year ago
which video has nephilim doing that horrible horrible moment? i need it.
cakelizard 1 year ago
Neph is such a disgrace to our species :(
hotkonto 1 year ago
This was posted on my BDay, so I THUMBS-Up'd! =3
TAz69x 1 year ago
This caused me to go take a gander at neff's place. Holy s%$# Is this guy really serious? I grew up with some nut jobs but..............
pumpstations 1 year ago
I only just found out there was such people who believed in geocentrism - I couldn't believe it!
Cheers for the explanation!
theindiekidable 1 year ago
Thumbs down. I don't liek pizza, bitch.
seyormi 1 year ago
Haha, watched this video again. Great shit, I LOST IT at "Note: I didn't add the music. It's that bad." Lmao. This is just comedy :x
Territomauvais 1 year ago
Nephilim will likely explain retrograde motion as a gravitational disruption caused by planet Nibiru.
firewallx 1 year ago
@firewallx No, his explanation is even more laughable than that! Look up redsky and orrery. You will fall over laughing.
drab100 1 year ago
I wonder how NF thinks gravity works. Since he thinks the Sun orbits around the Earth perhaps he thinks the Earht has more mass than the Sun. Or perhaps he thinks only the Earth has gravity.
BullseyeIX 1 year ago
freaking Christian Bale!
DieFatorLiveThin 1 year ago
As I understand it, the answer to your challenge would be to
model the solar system as the planets revolving around the
sun while the sun revolves around earth. So geocentric would
not be exactly analogous to heliocentric due to the mass of
the sun as compared to earth when they are centers.
Relative motion in space can be modeled from various viewpoints
since there is no spot from which to measure "true" motion, the
God's eye view.
Of course, you have to be able to explain all observations.
OgeronimonominoregO 1 year ago
@OgeronimonominoregO "Relative motion in space can be modeled from various viewpoints"
"Of course, you have to be able to explain all observations."
Aye laddy, there's the rub.
TerrencePhillip66 1 year ago
NephilimFree is a lying schmuck.
If he really wanted to reach people, then he wouldn't ban/insult them for simply answering his questions. He aims for a target audience... The ignorant.
L00NGB00W 1 year ago
I seem to be an idiot. I get that it wasn't caused by the parallax effect, but why are the star traces circular? I've seen night sky time-lapses and the stars in no way move in a circular manner (like in this video /watch?v=AyNmKTKlsps). I could understand if it was near the poles, but, judging by the pictures, it's not the case. Please be gentle.
domaataajs 1 year ago
@domaataajs
Yes, Nephilimfree's ignorance is profound, boundless, and unmatched. It is stupifying (and he's lying through his facial asshole... he never went to Rochester).
The photo has nothing to do with the Earths orbit around the sun, it has to do with Earths rotation on its axis.
There is always a star straight on from pov of the Earths axis called a "pole star."
The stars - Polaris or the Southern cross have been photographed like this thousands of times. Nephy's such a fucktard.
nolobede 1 year ago
....ouch >>
Vise555 1 year ago
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HUGE DELIMNAS FOR GEOCENTRISTS:
In order for a 24 hour spinning universe, it would have to be vastly smaller and spreading outward in a plane due to great centrifugal force. If the universe is much smaller, why do stars appear as tiny specks when looking at them through amateur telescopes? Simply due to weak magnification?
In the Tycho Brahe's geocentric model, why would planets chose to orbit the sun but not the earth? They don't and outer planet retrograde are lies?
SounzNice 1 year ago
I spoke to his mate shockofgod, he has a question, "Why is atheism correct and accurate". I said that I associated accurate with numbers, so I didn't know what he meant by that. Basically he said that no agruments would convince him that it was true and that nothing beacause he didn't respect atheists. I just thought, "wanker"
huntmatuk 1 year ago
how ignorant can someone be
ilovearmadillos 1 year ago
May I point out that not all creationists (including myself) believe in geocentrism. It's not part of the theology of God's creation; there is no indication of it in Scripture. Basically, I'm asking you not to dismiss the existence of God just because some people have formulated these wrong ideas.
AstralDragoon 1 year ago
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thenamedoesnotmatter 1 year ago
@AstralDragoon OH THE IRONY!!!!
A friend of mine once got extremely annoyed with me because I assumed that because he was a christian, he must be a creationist. He actually believes in evolution... he said something to the tune of " don't dismiss Christianity just because some Christians have the wrong ideas" I'm sure If I asked a Muslim he'd say don't dismiss the "right" religion just because all the others have it wrong.... see the pattern?
jizzfish 1 year ago
@jizzfish The intent of my comment wasn't to argue the theological credibility of Christianity versus other faiths. All I wanted to point out was that just because this fellow is a Christian (or merely claims to be one) does not imply that blind belief in a concept as clearly false as geocentrism is part of any Christian doctrine. A discussion about which religion is right is a different matter.
AstralDragoon 1 year ago
@AstralDragoon
No you are right; regardless of our faith or lack-there of, we should all be united against the evil forces of NephilimFree...
sorry I got a bit carried away.
jizzfish 1 year ago
@jizzfish OK, I see. :) I haven't seen any of Neph's videos, but from what I saw here, I certainly would not pitch in alongside him. While he may be redeemed, for which the base requirement is to confess our sins to Christ and accept Him as our Lord (I don't know if Neph has done this), it makes no sense for him to deny an obvious scientific truth. The way I see it, God made us a rational and fascinating universe so we could explore and learn about it.
AstralDragoon 1 year ago
@AstralDragoon
basically nephilimfree parades around youtube, spreading ignorance.
whether or not he actually believes half the shit that spews out of his second asshole, nobody will ever know. But the fact remains that he is set on the futile act of corrupting
as many minds as possible, appropriating "science" to fit his own needs and blindly refuting anything, no matter how obviously true that goes against the word of the bible, and his own brand of "logic"...
jizzfish 1 year ago
NephilimFree is probaply the most feared creationist on Youtube.
Feared in a sense that you really don't want to run into him on a dark alley...
BlizBob 1 year ago
that was the Glenn Beck/ Jimy Swager move.
JerezJulio 1 year ago
that clip, in the beginning, of neph absolutely terrified me!
MobileThinker 1 year ago
Nice pictures man!! Subscribed btw!! Nice work.
Jason29n 1 year ago
creapy creapy creapy O.O i hadnt seen that clip of Neph before, if there is a heaven(and i dont think there is), and i go there when i die, i hope to god (just an expression) that i can spend eternity without ever seeing him there
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Since I´m not sure if NephilimFree will aprrove or even answer my comment on his chanel I will ask the geocentrists who might read it here the same question:
How do you explain the Foucault pendulum and the fact that there are two flood tide and ebb tide cycles a day?
LordCustos3 1 year ago
@LordCustos3 The moon.
SounzNice 1 year ago
wow and the Music is part of the Video.
I love the Gleen Beck Beat.
JerezJulio 1 year ago
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.the notion of black hole mean that it has a mass and if the light may be absorbed by the black holes; why it cannot be curved by the black holes and the stars in its arriving to the earth?...I mean; did we make mistakes in our estimation of the stars position? And if the light can be absorbed by a black hole weighting 8 times our sun; why it cannot be curved by our sun ?and why the light speed in vacuum cannot increase if we go to a black hole?
mekkiseghier2002 1 year ago
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Since I´m not sure if NephilimFree will aprrove or even answer my comment on his chanel I will ask the geocentrists who might read it here the same question:
How do you explain the Foucault pendulum and the fact that there are two flood tide and ebb tide cycles a day?
supawooky 1 year ago
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Since I´m not sure if NephilimFree will aprrove or even answer my comment on his chanel I will ask the geocentrists who might read it here the same question:
How do you explain the Foucault pendulum and the fact that there are two flood tide and ebb tide cycles a day?
supawooky 1 year ago
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Since I´m not sure if NephilimFree will aprrove or even answer my comment on his chanel I will ask the geocentrists who might read it here the same question:
How do you explain the Foucault pendulum and the fact that there are two flood tide and ebb tide cycles a day?
supawooky 1 year ago
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@supawooky Since I´m not sure if NephilimFree will aprrove or even answer my comment on his chanel I will ask the geocentrists who might read it here the same question:
How do you explain the Foucault pendulum and the fact that there are two flood tide and ebb tide cycles a day?
supawooky 1 year ago
There are currently 205 'dislikes' to this video.
Does this suggest to us the idea, that so far youtube has accumulated at least 205 (and counting) geocentrists from the internets...
...I don't know about the remaining 3425 of you who rated, but that makes me shit kittens.
Statistically, this means that 1 in every 16.7 (we'll round it up to 17) people you walk past in the street is geocentrist.
Meh.
I think i'll call this a votebot.
TheNeognostic 1 year ago
@TheNeognostic or the same sad individual could have voted 205 times. Sad aint it.
seonidh 1 year ago
@seonidh It is. Imagine how many sockpuppets that took!
TheNeognostic 1 year ago
@TheNeognostic it beggers belief people are as petty as that. I mean lifes too short as it is.
seonidh 1 year ago
that sounded like the 2 girls 1 cup song in nephilimfree's video.
hanlonacity 1 year ago
Andromeda: Excellent video, thoroughly and concisely stripping the facade off Neph's ludicrous geocentrism claim.
One suggestion: the update at the end appears too briefly and is hard to pause. Could you extend the length of time that that annotation appears? It is important to the issue since it shows that Neph's rebuttal was fallacious. Tnx
TheAnniepies 1 year ago
SPACE DUCKS!!
academiccuriosity 1 year ago
lol Nephilim Free has rapist glasses
switchblade1800 1 year ago
Hmm Neph sucks are photography i guess thats why hes out of work for 3 years. And hes also a lazy parasite. A geocentris? Just wow, you live in the first world and the richest country in the word built on science, to belive in something thats been disproven 350 years ago. Guess Neph found his new job, a Google scientist.
sclf 1 year ago
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jesus wore a wig. i have proof. in the gospel of Frank it says that he went bald and they made him a wig of seaweed, but it was infested with baracles, so they made one of straw. it was good. they noticed all the sheep followed him all over the place. then they noticed the people followed him like the sheep. till this day they follow him.
peace, lardo.
lardo444 1 year ago
5:09. what the's offie?
NegativeNick 1 year ago
@NegativeNick I suppose it's an English term for the office.
pastramiitalianappl2 1 year ago
@NegativeNick It's a slang term for an Off License - a small shop that sells alcohol etc.
trooperJac 1 year ago
I like PIZZA!
sclf 1 year ago
Right after I watch this I got blocked by this batshit crazy mother fucker for asking "How do you know Christianity is true when many other religions are almost exactly the same as Christianity and even make more sense than than Christianity?"
greenday4455 1 year ago
@greenday4455 I forgot to include this: This NephilimFree is quite a deluded prick.
greenday4455 1 year ago
The belief that the earth is flat is no different to atheism, really.
The people who say they've been all the way around the world might have lied for no reason, like atheistic logic allows where they say the writers of the Bible lied for no reason atall and without motivation.
Anybody who has read the Bible properly can recall the many scriptures which destroy the ideas of the writers wanting money or power, and many passages which make no sense unless miracles really did happen.
TheColaGoodfellow 1 year ago
@TheColaGoodfellow Delusions maybe? Merely being told the wrong information? Metaphors? You know right that you can do mathematical calculations that the Earth is spherical. I cannot do the same with the legitimacy of the Bible.
Anyway say that, because the Bible contains some moral messages it is the truth (just as a setup), what about every other holy book of every other religion? Why are they wrong? Surely they were wrote with the same reasons, surely they aren't wrong/lying.
dunsedog 1 year ago
@dunsedog
Most other holy books are not comprised of 66 books/letters wrote in periods of time so far apart they couldn't have been comprised as a conspiracy of any form.
The first person to call someone else a liar when they had no motivation is probably the least reliable. The nature of the different holy books is a good implication as to whether or not they were comprised for the wrong reasons.
TheColaGoodfellow 1 year ago
@TheColaGoodfellow Well the whole old testament is essentially Judaism and does contredict the new testament a lot. Islam uses many of the books of the Bible similarly just with more apparent changes. The Tipitaka of Buddhism was not written by the Buddha, but his followers after his death and thus was written by essentially a community and over a period of time (not as long as proposed in the Bible I suppose)
Anyway this kinda distracts from the point, a lot of assumptions are being made....
dunsedog 1 year ago
@TheColaGoodfellow ... about the Bible, so you simple assume its fact that the Bible was written by people who weren't aware of each other's existence and their own respective books. If I read the Bible, I can technically follow what it says and write a new one that corresponds.
Equally, what if even the new testament doesn't correspond with itself. Many books written supposedly by disciples were discarded by the Christian council in the 2nd century, because they were contredictory.
dunsedog 1 year ago
@dunsedog
Using Delusions as an excuse is the equivalent to saying 44 people whose airplane crashed onto an island were all under a delusion and none of it really happened. That's the nature of the miracles are in the Bible.
The Bible isn't all stories, some of them are letters, which, again, treat the miracles as real.
TheColaGoodfellow 1 year ago
@TheColaGoodfellow If I did a magic trick and all of my audience thought it was real magic, would that be deception and delusion of a large mass? Well 'miracles' follow that kind of event, not a plane crash. Let's say a man recovers from an illness a day after a supposed holy man walks in the room. Coincidence of the direct effect of the holy man's presence. At the time everybody would believe the latter.
Anyway it seems you believe that the Bible is evidence for itself. Nevermind.
dunsedog 1 year ago
@dunsedog
Bible miracles are not as unclear as what you're talking about.
Most of the miracles involve some obvious action by the prophet such as them saying "Walk, your faith has healed you", and the miracles themselves are often at the time the prophet asks. And the scriptures mention thousands of these occuring.
TheColaGoodfellow 1 year ago
@TheColaGoodfellow Read my last line again. You believe that because it says in the Bible that a prophet said a phrase then he must have and that there must have been a miracles. You use this to show that the Bible is true. Circular logic if you ask me.
Outside of the Bible are you given any reason to believe that this is a direct quotation and an accurate description of the scenario. Psychology shows how inaccurate witness testimony can be even in the case of murder etc etc.
dunsedog 1 year ago
@dunsedog
Well I'm not going to assume they're all liars when they had little motivation to do so, am I? The things they said destroy the idea of them wanting money or power (unless they wanted to be servents).
"He who wants to be the greatest among you must serve."
In one of the letters, an apostle actively says "I don't want your material possessions".
One could look for any excuse not to believe somebody, but that is often done for the wrong reasons.
TheColaGoodfellow 1 year ago
@TheColaGoodfellow
"Psychology shows how inaccurate witness testimony can be even in the case of murder etc etc." False information isn't alwayfs about direct lying. Above I've shown one example and others are delusions, simply being given the wrong information, metaphorical writing. Usually its a bit of everything.
Again I come round to other religions, if you are simply going to believe something if it is apparent they aren't greedy, why not believe in any other religion. Why are they wrong?
dunsedog 1 year ago
@dunsedog
If you have read the whole Bible and can actually call all of those miracles coincidence/delusion, then I worry what you'd think if a prophet came today. You still wouldn't believe.
Even if they did hundreds of thousands of healings, walked of water in the middle of a stormy ocean, calmed a stormy ocean at their own command, turned water into wine, brought multiple people from different cities back to the dead, parted an ocean so that there was giant walls on either side, and more...
TheColaGoodfellow 1 year ago
@TheColaGoodfellow Me denying a book's legitimacy is akin to denying multiple, direct, personal instaces of observation, is that what you are trying to say?
Personally I would request a controlled instance which is measured and controlled to minimise to chances of deceit or wrong interpretation. That doesn't happen in the Bible, we never get to measure and verify any of the instances of miracles in the Bible, we are simply told, by one source, a short and incomplete description by his eyes.
dunsedog 1 year ago
@dunsedog *personal instances
*minimise the chances.
*incomplete description
(what's up with my spelling today)
dunsedog 1 year ago
@dunsedog
We are told about Jesus by multiple sources now in the Bible. Atleast 6 people wrote some of those books/letters.
TheColaGoodfellow 1 year ago
@TheColaGoodfellow The Bible is a single source of information. To make the assumption that there are multiple writers firstly requires evidence, and secondly, doesn't change the fact it is still a single source when it comes to each scenario written about in the Bible.
Even if it were to be considered a multiple source, it still can't be measured, tested and verified.
Why the hell is my computer not writing the word description correctly maybe it is just Youtube.
dunsedog 1 year ago
@dunsedog
Surely you've done your research? Everyone knows that the Bible originated as 66 seperate books/letters wrote over the period of around 1000 years by different people. Archealogy shows it, and so do the writing styles within the books.
With any scripture I am forced to either base my beliefs on the amount of scriptures they have, the dates they were each wrote and the claims within. I also have to base it on the context, whether or not they're letters or books/documentaries.
TheColaGoodfellow 1 year ago
Any scripture*
TheColaGoodfellow 1 year ago
@TheColaGoodfellow May I ask what a 'ure' is?
Well the authors of the books aren't confirmed, there is skepticism whether or not the people who wrote them truely did, for instance with Revelations. But anyhow, tbh you are right in saying they is evidence to suggest multiple authors, however that isn't my point. In each miraculous instance within the Bible there is only one writer talking it directly, and it can be questioned if that single piece of anecdotal evidence is accurate or reliable.
dunsedog 1 year ago
@TheColaGoodfellow AAAAAARGHH Youtube can't spell words correctly anymore, I'm guess 'ure is a mispelling, because d e s c r i p t i o n keeps coming out as deion like i can't spell the work s c r i p t, if so ure is obviously s c r i p t ure
dunsedog 1 year ago
Christ! Anywhere Nephilimfree is is not Paradise by definition.
HConstantine 1 year ago
Yet Nasa scientists manage to hit planets with probes and satellites while under the false assumption that we orbit the Sun... Weird right
TheEVILutionist 1 year ago
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TheEVILutionist 1 year ago
The problem with NF, besides being creepy as hell, is that he thinks, the heliocentric model, means the earth goes around the sun every 24 hours...
desager1 1 year ago
Wasn't retrograde motion explained by an ancient Greek who argued that the planets revolved in little circles around larger circles? Then didn't they add more circles because that explanation didn't work too well? meh, I'm sure that someone else has mentioned this in the comments below, but I'm not about to read 7 pages of them because I'm a lazy bastard.
TheSaturnalia 1 year ago
1:05 It's Holly from Red Dwarf.
ftwsmp 1 year ago