Ironic that the provos broke away because they refused to accept anything less than a full British withdrawl. Now in 2012 the IRA have long abandonded their violent campaign so SF could enter stormont and become part the status-quo in a British ran, partionist government fully recognising Northern Ireland's place in the United Kingdom. Their 30yrs of violence & often sectarain murder was pointless in the bigger picture. Funny that those so hardline gave the biggest rollover in the end
today the uk is in a mess.the country is run by indian and pakistans.arabs and russians .its hard to see a white person in london.its a mess of a society.
@hassannassaralah Are you f-ing kidding?? Whatever state the UK is in, Eire is going exactly the same way. In 100 years time there won't be either an England or an Ireland, we'll be some mulatto mongrel states whose people don't give a fuck who the original peoples were who fought under the various banners, or Islamic states that resemble the Arab world. Everyone on these islands is wilfully headed in that direction and the Irish and their leaders are no exception.
HAHA I win every argument I enter, the IRA have become nothing but criminals now who do nothing but assault the week, murder deal drugs and terrorise their communities like their friends in the UVF. IRA never admitted to Roberts murder until they went to Washington and London to raise the profile of his case, only then did Adams and McGuinness call on them to own up and they offered a few patsies like Gadaffi did to keep John De Chastelain and the IMC happy.
@HateFenians They did? I'm currently reading for an exam, and a major part of it is about the IRA. May you please link to a source r something Thanks :)
Just the IRA are liars like the Marxist UVF, both claim to represent the community but have put people out and the IRA love making people disappear.
Most sickest crime your lot committed was the abduction of mother of 10 Jean McConville and 17 year old child Columba McVeigh, all fine when you make Robert Nairac disappear but to target innocent people in your own area. Just cowardly, Mrs McVeigh died without ever getting her sons body back.
@HateFenians well i dont know but i say it fealt alright if it was for a cause ya thats real bad like the 100,000 innocent civilians the us and brits have killed in iraq since the start of the war my point is dont be so fucking judge mental bad things happens in war and in my view the brits are the fucking terrorists
When asked did they see anything, all 70 people in the bar at the time all claimed to be at the toilet during Robert's murder. After his murder they got to work wiping away finger prints, dna evidence and finally removing the CCTV before the peelers arrived!
@HateFenians i suppose you were there and i suppose all those 70 people were in the ira listen to your self it was a drunken brawl it wasnt ordered by the ira
holy sh*t...let me get this straight, marxism was inflitrating within the IRA in the 70's ? And this is when Russia was a big threat...immagine if they embraced this way - immagine Britain's responce to that!
I never thought of that ... i mean,the IRA would be a perfect candidate for the marxists of europe to try to start winning against the west ;) I probably missunderstood something and please forgive my grammar.Im not native english-speaking. Any insights to this?
@MrOzanachronism what do you know you austrailian retrard? fucking unionists, the only reason you don want a united ireland is because of religion and that is the single most retarded reason.
@greatestXhits - You can't argue with 'retrarded' logic like that. It is about religion, but not just about religion - it's about having a distinct provincial identity, and the right not to be burned out and boycotted like the Protestants were in the South.
The Taigs in the south pushed out the Prods for religion, and that's just as retarded.
@greatestXhits You Fenians like to go on about Loyalist bigotry, which I find ironic when Mick dullards think me ignorant and stupid because I'm from Australia. I may be from a country populated by some of the most feckless souls on the planet, but I've lived around the world, and in Northern Ireland long enough, have convictions strong enough, and studied the conflict well enough to have an informed opinion and know what the MAJORITY has been fighting for over the past 90 years since partition.
@greatestXhits I find it ironic that the foreigners in Ireland are subject to bigotry when millions went to the mainland and the New World for a better life, and, up until recent decades, were themselves victims of the same prejudices. You didn't like it when it happened to you.
Every single day a SF MLA drives up into Stormont past the statues of Carson & Craigavon is a daily reminder of how they failed to deliver on their promises. Every repetitive whinge from Gerry Kelly is the clearest possible signal that the journey from prison cells to prison-board represmets a personnal defeat for him. Histroy is usually written by winners yet SF most remarkable skill has been to mask the fact they have been stuffed on every issue that matters to them!!
The IRA was so riddled with criminals, thieves and child molesters that they had no option but surrender
Their war of genocide against the people of Northern Ireland failed, it was based on one thing, lining their pockets with money from their criminal activity, in the end even their friends in the USA had to remove the funding as it became clear that the IRA was training Colombian drug gangs in terrorism, the war on global terrorism ended the gravy train of money and so the IRA surrendered
@MrOzanachronism why ?does that have any special meaning? I am interested in Irish heritage because i find your country insanely beautiful but i only started reading about it so... excuse my ignorance ;)
The united states should have came to ireland. They would have wiped the IRA off the map! Joking. I dont understand why you would not want to be apart of the UK? It makes your nation stronger. Im sure both sides had a reason to fight but like ghandi said an eye for an eye would make the world go blind. Catholics and Protestants just need to chill. We both are Christians is that not a strong enough common bond we share?
@scrubs22222222 Yeah like you're doing in afghanistan? you've been getting buttfucked by farmers for more than a decade now, and its that "YEAH MAN LETS GO AND GET THE BAD GUYS GUYS" attitude that got you there. most of the men fighting didn't even believe in god. Republican and loyalist areas are full of crime, drugs and violence they're basically ghettos this wasn't some holy war. catholic is a code word for "native" Irish and protestant for "planter" scottish/english settlers.
@scrubs22222222 your an idiot we dont want to be a part of britain for the same reason you stupid americans didnt either in 1775, it's about the principal and the freedom of running our OWN country, it's not their country to control its ours. p.s you're a stupid cunt
It is staggering to believe that all those lives that were lost, tens of thousands of people maimed and terrorised simply because they wanted to unify Ireland and others did not. Regardless of the aim NO cause is worth the abject misery, pain, suffering and unbearable grief of countless souls for 30 years .
The Civil Rights Movement was basically a sound movement dedicated to obtaining basic human rights - so much lost and so much sorrow through sectarianism and tit-for-tat murder. A tragedy.
@Ayanocock You obviously didn't read my comment correctly. I stated that tens of thousands were......and I quote.......... 'maimed and terrorised' The last time I checked, these figures were correct. Lives lost were in the region of 3,500 on all sides of the conflict.
its amazing how similar this is to the Israeli Palestinian conflict, you have two sides committing acts of evil, one side way more powerful than the other, the other side claiming that their acts of evil are justified because they are oppressed, fuck them all, they're all terrorists.
Havent u noticed that Eire want nothing to do with u? They are basically a 3rd world country, do u think they want 6 more counties? Their Minister of State Dr Martin Mansergh admits unity isnt even on their agenda. To be honest your the only one even talking about unity now. The rest have moved on and are helping Northern Ireland move forward!
I'm an American who was was born in 1989 to American's living in the UK at the time people were scared shittless of the IRA; my mom told me a story about a sports' bag left outside their flat that caused the entire building to be evacuated because people thought that it was a nationalists' bomb.
Northern Ireland costs mainlaind UK taxpayers £6billion in an annual subsidy. All this money goes to pay for the ridiculous duplication of services, one for the loyalist community and one for the nationalist and the NI police force costs 3 times more per head of population than in England and Wales. I say cut the subsidy get rid of duplication of services, peace walls and segregated education.
I have a question for you all that live in N.I. I lived in England in the 1970's as an American. So I remember the violence in N.I. This puzzles me, that is let's pretend 4 a moment that the Brits hand over the northern counties to the Republic of Ireland-therefore it is unified as the Catholics wish to be. What happens to the abandoned Loyalists(whom make up a majority in Belfast)? It would seem to me that they would start an insurgency against the Republic-do to the fact that want 2 remain UK
@blkaladdin Hello blkaladdin. To answer your question, in my opinion, you are correct, it wouldnt be an insurgency though, loyalists would just begin killing massive amounts of catholic civilians, the irish army would be deployed their immediatley and local nationalist defence networks would be formed to protect nationalist areas. Eventually it would fizzle out and unionists would eventually accept their part on this island. But if the brits dont leave, then their will always be violence.
@freedomforpalestine6 Fizzle out?? Thats an ignorant view of politics & history. Do u think any man would simply give up his country, heirtage & nationality? One night of rioting would bankrupt your new 'united ireland'. Eire can barely afford the 26 counties they have and admit we are not even on their agenda. And do u really believe catholics in Northern Ireland who are used to living under the socio-economic benefits of the UK, would want to settle for a lower quality of life?
There not being asked to give up their country, heritage or nationality, they are simply being asked to stop putting there views ahead of everybody elses. We dont want to be simply absorbed into the republic, we want to forge a new nation, with a fresh start for everyone with equal rights for everybody despite their colour, race or religion, And ask the people of ireland what they want and you'll see they want britain out of ireland.
@freedomforpalestine6 Thats how democracy works, under the terms of the GFA the people of Northern Ireland will determine their own destiny. Clearly the majority want to remain in the UK. Britian is not in Ireland. But if your talking about Northern Ireland, then u must be unaware that the British presence in Northern Ireland is the British people here who wish to remain part of Britian. When the IRA realised this they finally accepted they couldnt bomb us into unity!
I dont care what 'northern ireland' wants, it is a gerrymandered state and was created to have a unionist majority, It only matters what all of ireland wants, as one country, a referendum across 32 counties will clearly show that the people of ireland want unity. Ireland is made of 32 counties, not just 6. Britain has ignored democracy and the wishes of the irish people for 800 years, as long as the union jack flys over ulster, there will always be war, thats the sad truth.
@freedomforpalestine6 And that one-sided rant is why people with your political dinosaur, tunnel-vissioned mindset have been left behind while Northern Ireland moves forward!! You delluded yourslef if u think a majority in Northern Ireland will ever vote to settle for a worse quality of life or that Eire even gives a shit about you. Do u think they could even afford it if they did?? lol. Wise up. Your one-sided history lessons are getting old and nobody even listening now!
Obviously your listening. We dont want to simply become absorbed into the south, we want to create a new all ireland republic with equal rights for EVERYONE, but I had forogt what an outrageous and radical idea equality and justice have become.
@freedomforpalestine6 Who exactly wants to create this? Sinn Fein are working as part of the Northern Ireland government? And the dissidents just want a united ireland though they arent sure how exactly! Northern Ireland has equality & justice, but bigots like u just want to run around acting the victim because u cant have your own way.
I am not a bigot, I dont have to act the victim because my people are the victims! How long do you think the equality will last under british rule? We will NEVER accept foreign rule, and if the peaceful route is blocked again, then we will have only one option left.
@freedomforpalestine6 Have u ever stopped to listen to yourself? The victims are those that were murdered and the IRA were responsible for more than their fair share of the suffering. You dont seem to realise that the democratic majority here are British citizens. And trying to bully & bomb us into unity failed. And whats this 'option' u mention? Join the no-stratedgy, vodka-volunteers in the dissidents, who think leaving a bomb in an area packed with women & kids will somehow win them support!
@freedomforpalestine6 Fight who?? Northern Irelands place in the UK, is not held by force but by majority consent, in other words the British presence in Northern Ireland is it is those who cherish a British identity, and also many who call themselves irish but recognise the benefit of living under the socio-economic benefits of the UK. The IRA realised they couldnt terrorise this country into a united ireland, and would have use democratic means to try acheive their goals!
As ive already said, britain will not accept the will of all the irish people, not just the unionists, and until they do, we will have a legitimate right of resistance.
@freedomforpalestine6 The will of the people?? Havent u heard of the GFA? Northern Irelands place in the UK is secured by majority consent. The irish government & voting electorate also endorsed the agreement and even removed articles 2 & 3. You havent told me yet who u plan to fight? If you plan to fight the British then u would need to start by trying to fight/murder anyone in NI who holds a British identity.. but lets not forget the provos already tried this tactic for 30yrs and it failed.
If britain doesnt leave we will have to fight them again, the british government, not the british people, the innocent shouldnt suffer for the crimes of their government.
@freedomforpalestine6 Are u saying u dont support the consent principle & terms of the GF Agreement? You say fight them again, well when exactly did u fight them before?? At Kingsmill? Enniskillen? Darkley?
Kingsmill and Darkley were crimes beyond comprehension, the perpetrators deserve the death penalty, but they werent carried out by the IRA, they were carried out by rogue elements within the republican community who were frustrated and angered by loyalist murders.. Enniskellen was a mistake, althouhg the IRAs intention was to kill the soldiers at the gathering, that would still have been wrong, I dont hate people for remembering their dead, they have a right to do so.
@freedomforpalestine6 And what did 'fighting' the army or police acheive? The army left when the IRA quit violence. The IRA's violence just made unionists more determined to protect the union and resist the IRA. Killing soldiers etc was never going to acheive unity. The provos failed campaign & the dissidents current campaign have proved violence will never work. And if innocent protestants werent the target then why did the IRA murder hundreds of them?? What the hell do u expect me to think?
They also murdered hundreds of innocent catholics, does that mean they wanted to kill them all to? Most civilian deaths were caused by inadequate warnings for bombings, or cases of mistaken identity, or killed in the crossfire on attacks on the security forces.Fighting the army got us 3 out of 4 of our objectives, defence of the nationalist people, civil rights, and the toppling of the old stormont regime, and we'll get a united ireland sooner or later, with or without violence.
@freedomforpalestine6 How did dragging soldiers onto the streets & engaging in tit-for-tat sectarain murder campaigns with loyalists defend nationalist people? The IRA had nothing to do with civil rights (except the thousands of people they denied the right of life too) and SF now sit up at stormont working as part of the regime the IRA promised to blow out the window! And if u think a united ireland is on anyones agenda then your delluded.
Defeating loylaist mobs and groups of loyalist gunmen and stopping them from murdering civilians and burning down nationalist areas protected the nationalist people. The IRA won us our civil rights. I was reffering o the old stormont regime that treated nationalists like second class citizens in their own country, the IRA defeated it.
@freedomforpalestine6 I had 2 uncles targeted and murdered by the IRA for no other reason than their religion, so dont waste time trying to feed me the standard terrorist apologist's half-baked excuses about 'mistaken identity' or 'crossfire' etc.. The IRA engaged in attempted ethnic cleansing in south Armagh and areas of Tyrone, same as loylists did in areas of Belfast, and there is no amount of rhetoric or window dressing that will make a sectarain murder appear as something noble or decent!
Bullshit, the only time the IRA attacked protestant civilians on purpose was during the retaliatory campaign which was ended soon after it began. Sectarian murder is not noble, it is wrong and imo is worthy of capital punishment, no matter who the perpetrator is.
@freedomforpalestine6 And who will fight? SF now support democracy and consent principle. And the dissidents are still active doing what the provos used to do but u claim u dont suport them so who exactly will be doing this fighting??
@freedomforpalestine6 Maybe you want sympathy, because its so horrible living within the socio-economic benefits of the UK. Maybe u should move to Ireland and see how much more luxurius your life is!
i am a proud Roman Catholic, and believe in what the church of Rome teaches, but their rules and regulations i could go against such as same sex marriages etc. But religion is nothing to do with politics.. Loyalists turned it into a sectarian war, and people have to think why the dissidents are bombing and killing, its our fucking country you british imperialist bastards!
Did You ever hear such Bollocks! My Father grew up in a 2 up 2 down house and was unemployed and he was a Protestant! I'm not saying there wasn't discrimination against Catholics its just that it wasn't al one way. You'd think there was no such thing as a poor Protestant from this video!
ya but they're not the majority in each county, what about principle of consent? How come the irish people in irelands consent doesnt matter? If they can make a fake border to ensure a majority why not just use the majorities we have in whatever counties we have em, not sayin ur wrong just throwin shit out there
i got a question, just curious, what do u think of any counties in the 6 coutnies with nationalist majorities withdrawing or seceding into the "republic of ireland?" would that help or hurt? At least we'd get somethin
@ForzaCeltic89 the catholic church is yhe most evil instiution ever seen on yhe face of the earth and yes iam a protestant but in the true sense of the word, would i kill for my believes ? NO but would i die for them yes, dnt get me wrong i understand the struggle 4 identity but 2 kill 4 it ,wise up , and 2 say its not a religious war ,very wrong my friend
@stuart7034 You show your ignorant bigotry with your comments about the catholic church, it is true that the vast majority of nationalists and republicans in Ireland are catholics, but the republican goals are not for a 32 county catholic controlled state. I was brought up a catholic, and no longer practice the faith. I am however an Irish republican and want to see a republic, with equality for all citizens. But to deny this after peaceful means have been tried leaves no option but war.
@ForzaCeltic89 I AM NOT A BIGOT, i despise all factions of terrorists , provos[not the ira of 1916] uvf uda etc but i do despise those in a modern world who use violence to gain an objective ,however i make no apologies for my stand on the catholic church , if u kuv ur church you would call for the pope 2 face crimanl charges for his actions in protecting child abusers(no rapists), however i do concede 2 the fight of the old ira in ireland ,2 me they were real socalists, your friend
@stuart7034 What would you suggest the provos should have done in 1969? Sit back and allow the nationalist people of the north be denied basic civil rights by orange state they were living in? I said that I am not a practicing catholic, so your comments about the pope are irrelevant in this arguement. In your first comment about the church you called it evil but yet did not give a valid reason why a church that teaches love and respect is evil. Actions of individuals should be punished.
@ForzaCeltic89 hello friend i do agree with u in certian terms about action but also please rember i grew up in a protestant estate bathed also in poverty as i said civil disobedence is the right way not murder from both sides .and i would like 2 thank u 4 the tone of ur argurment and im sorry if ive went 2 far in mine , check c hitchens on you tube i think ud like him
I love Oliver Wright, finally we have Ireland off our back and they can govern themselves, LMFAO. I'm sure that the Irish would have been glad to "get of their backs" long before that. What world do these people live in?
@kathryn8169 i never said the IRA were defeated, i said they would have been if the war had continued, collins himself said that thats why he signed the treaty. what im saying is that i would rather have 32 county state ruled by london than the divided nation we have now. and the dublin gov will not rule the all 32 countys, they a weak pathetic individuals. ireland needs a strong military dictatorship, build up the army to suffice standards and invade the north.
@kathryn8169 yes ireland should be ruled by ireland but all 32 counties ruled from dublin. not 26 ruled from dublin and another 6 in london. i believe that the war of indepedence should of continued despite the inevitable result of the IRA being defeated becuase all 32 counties ruled from london is better than 2 states on one land.
@18Brido88 i meant divided as in partitioned...not divided in ideology. The whole of Ireland ruled by britain is better than having north and south split in 2.
Watching Ian Paisley talk I can understand the spell that Hilter cast upon Germany. Spewing nothing but hatred and violence with such a passion, and spiced with raw patriotism. The power of his oratory makes it so easy to be sucked into the reality of his message.
The IRA were a serious force. If social change can be achieved through violence then the IRA were the epitomy of this. Peace reigns now in Ulster but only after struggle and violence made peace the preferrable option.
I feel sorry for the Palastinians, living under the yoke of like oppressors. Their struggle seems doomed. The Gaza ghetto seems destined for liquidation.
I wish Israel and Palastine could reach consensus and equality just like we did in Ireland.
I just finished watching the Loyalist documentaries, and they portray the loyalist side in a critical light too...Taylor really does give a nonbiased view of the Troubles, as far as I can tell.
This fact doesn't make your opinion any more valid than mine! This is the weakest argument you can muster! There is a lot of disgrunteld "republicans" who voice opinions such as this! The fact is a huge percentage of nationalist in the North aren't concerned about reunification and dont want it!
1. Its not a free state any more its a republic! You should admire this fact as its what you say to want! Freedom from the UK! 2. There was civil war over the division, therefore people did give a hoot! The fact is the brits could never hand back Ni even if they wanted! Believe me in the 70s they would have handed it back to Ireland in a second if they could have!
@irishrover1967 true fine Gael Fianna fail all the same,too busy taking back handers then standing up to the brits dont forget that a small group of anti republican west brits where running RTE with fear during the troubles and a few in the fine geal labour coaltion in the 70s favoured a brits in policy
divide and conquer thats the Brits for ya, funny thing is most if not all the prod mates i have as well as the girlfriend all hate the english as much as we do so go figure that one out! the free state stopped caring a long fucking time ago alright
Ironic that the provos broke away because they refused to accept anything less than a full British withdrawl. Now in 2012 the IRA have long abandonded their violent campaign so SF could enter stormont and become part the status-quo in a British ran, partionist government fully recognising Northern Ireland's place in the United Kingdom. Their 30yrs of violence & often sectarain murder was pointless in the bigger picture. Funny that those so hardline gave the biggest rollover in the end
uobcv 1 day ago
id burn the fucking union jack if i had match and some petrol
pubkrocknroll 1 month ago
@pubkrocknroll you must feel very proud
stealth1692 3 weeks ago
@stealth1692 probably not to that extent but i suppose they better do it soon because it might not be part of the UK for much longer
pubkrocknroll 2 weeks ago
today the uk is in a mess.the country is run by indian and pakistans.arabs and russians .its hard to see a white person in london.its a mess of a society.
hassannassaralah 1 month ago
@hassannassaralah I live in London, what on Earth are you talking about?
badfaith101 1 month ago
@badfaith101 im talking about the bad state the uk is in .
hassannassaralah 1 month ago
@hassannassaralah Are you f-ing kidding?? Whatever state the UK is in, Eire is going exactly the same way. In 100 years time there won't be either an England or an Ireland, we'll be some mulatto mongrel states whose people don't give a fuck who the original peoples were who fought under the various banners, or Islamic states that resemble the Arab world. Everyone on these islands is wilfully headed in that direction and the Irish and their leaders are no exception.
SmippeHyrst 6 days ago
HAHA I win every argument I enter, the IRA have become nothing but criminals now who do nothing but assault the week, murder deal drugs and terrorise their communities like their friends in the UVF. IRA never admitted to Roberts murder until they went to Washington and London to raise the profile of his case, only then did Adams and McGuinness call on them to own up and they offered a few patsies like Gadaffi did to keep John De Chastelain and the IMC happy.
But still the McCartneys forced out
HateFenians 1 month ago
@HateFenians "assault the week" Don't you mean weak? You fucking retard hahaha
Cullyy1989 4 weeks ago
IRA killed more innocent Catholics than they did Protestants.
HateFenians 3 months ago
@HateFenians They did? I'm currently reading for an exam, and a major part of it is about the IRA. May you please link to a source r something Thanks :)
vemu333 3 months ago in playlist Provos, Loyalists and Brits
Go onto Cain and no it is not a wiki site, its a uni site on our troubled past!
Should be a calculation thing on the databases.
HateFenians 1 month ago
@HateFenians and whats your fucking point
IRAneverbeaten 1 month ago
Just the IRA are liars like the Marxist UVF, both claim to represent the community but have put people out and the IRA love making people disappear.
Most sickest crime your lot committed was the abduction of mother of 10 Jean McConville and 17 year old child Columba McVeigh, all fine when you make Robert Nairac disappear but to target innocent people in your own area. Just cowardly, Mrs McVeigh died without ever getting her sons body back.
How does it feel to strap Catholics onto bombs?
HateFenians 1 month ago
@HateFenians well i dont know but i say it fealt alright if it was for a cause ya thats real bad like the 100,000 innocent civilians the us and brits have killed in iraq since the start of the war my point is dont be so fucking judge mental bad things happens in war and in my view the brits are the fucking terrorists
IRAneverbeaten 1 month ago
I know Patsy Gillespies widow, your lot strapped him into his car before forcing him to drive to his workplace then detonating it.
What was his crime?
HateFenians 1 month ago
@HateFenians he worked for the brits enough said he new he could be targeted
IRAneverbeaten 1 month ago
As I said innocent man, woman and children targeted by IRA's killing machine, were women and children also enemy combantants of the IRA?
Doesn't matter who Patsy worked for as a chef, the fact he had a job and your heros didn't says something.
HateFenians 1 month ago
@HateFenians you support brittish terrorism i dont comment to scum like you 100,000 innocent civilians dont forget that faggot
IRAneverbeaten 1 month ago
Suppose Robert McCartney was an enemy combatant too, his crime was trying to stop a fight from happening.
HateFenians 1 month ago
@HateFenians that was a fucking drunken brawl it wasnt ordered you twat every week you here of people getting stabbed.
IRAneverbeaten 1 month ago
Funny how 70 people were in the toilet when Robert was murdered, then the place was wiped clean by IRA and Sinn Fein plus CCTV tapes were wiped.
His sisters and his partner were chased out of the Short Strand for wanting justice for him.
HateFenians 1 month ago
@HateFenians 70 people thats the biggest load of made up shite i have ever heard run a long because your making a fool out of your self
IRAneverbeaten 1 month ago
sunday world never lies, 7 years on and the McCartneys no longer live in Short Strand and no longer support sinn fein.
HateFenians 1 month ago
@HateFenians sunday world is a paper you retard ever dont always believe what you read in the papers you fool
IRAneverbeaten 1 month ago
When asked did they see anything, all 70 people in the bar at the time all claimed to be at the toilet during Robert's murder. After his murder they got to work wiping away finger prints, dna evidence and finally removing the CCTV before the peelers arrived!
HateFenians 1 month ago
@HateFenians i suppose you were there and i suppose all those 70 people were in the ira listen to your self it was a drunken brawl it wasnt ordered by the ira
IRAneverbeaten 1 month ago
Then why did the IRA force the McCartneys out of Short Strand and why the silence for nearly a few years about it??????
HateFenians 1 month ago
@HateFenians look you fool no one saw it no evidence thats why theres silence
IRAneverbeaten 1 month ago
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HateFenians 1 month ago
@HateFenians ya i can see i have one this argument as usual fenians always get the better hand on brits ha ha
IRAneverbeaten 1 month ago
@ChaosDynamics Not bad, considering the USSR didn't exist in 1916.
oysteib 4 months ago 3
oh,i was commending on the statement of that ex general of the IRA who left the military (or something)...
Lywnis 5 months ago in playlist Provos, Loyalists and Brits
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Lywnis 5 months ago in playlist Provos, Loyalists and Brits
holy sh*t...let me get this straight, marxism was inflitrating within the IRA in the 70's ? And this is when Russia was a big threat...immagine if they embraced this way - immagine Britain's responce to that!
I never thought of that ... i mean,the IRA would be a perfect candidate for the marxists of europe to try to start winning against the west ;) I probably missunderstood something and please forgive my grammar.Im not native english-speaking. Any insights to this?
Lywnis 5 months ago in playlist Provos, Loyalists and Brits
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TheDavidG54 7 months ago 11
There will never be a United Ireland! NEVER! NEVER! NEVER! NEVER!
MrOzanachronism 8 months ago
@MrOzanachronism what do you know you austrailian retrard? fucking unionists, the only reason you don want a united ireland is because of religion and that is the single most retarded reason.
greatestXhits 8 months ago
@greatestXhits - You can't argue with 'retrarded' logic like that. It is about religion, but not just about religion - it's about having a distinct provincial identity, and the right not to be burned out and boycotted like the Protestants were in the South.
The Taigs in the south pushed out the Prods for religion, and that's just as retarded.
MrOzanachronism 8 months ago
@greatestXhits You Fenians like to go on about Loyalist bigotry, which I find ironic when Mick dullards think me ignorant and stupid because I'm from Australia. I may be from a country populated by some of the most feckless souls on the planet, but I've lived around the world, and in Northern Ireland long enough, have convictions strong enough, and studied the conflict well enough to have an informed opinion and know what the MAJORITY has been fighting for over the past 90 years since partition.
MrOzanachronism 8 months ago
@greatestXhits I find it ironic that the foreigners in Ireland are subject to bigotry when millions went to the mainland and the New World for a better life, and, up until recent decades, were themselves victims of the same prejudices. You didn't like it when it happened to you.
MrOzanachronism 8 months ago
@greatestXhits Anyway, my 'never' comment was a bit of tongue-in-cheek, a parody of Dr. No.
MrOzanachronism 8 months ago
Taigs
MrOzanachronism 8 months ago
Every single day a SF MLA drives up into Stormont past the statues of Carson & Craigavon is a daily reminder of how they failed to deliver on their promises. Every repetitive whinge from Gerry Kelly is the clearest possible signal that the journey from prison cells to prison-board represmets a personnal defeat for him. Histroy is usually written by winners yet SF most remarkable skill has been to mask the fact they have been stuffed on every issue that matters to them!!
uobcv 9 months ago
"Ireland is on the edge of reveloution"
FIntyMAcC10 9 months ago
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The IRA was so riddled with criminals, thieves and child molesters that they had no option but surrender
Their war of genocide against the people of Northern Ireland failed, it was based on one thing, lining their pockets with money from their criminal activity, in the end even their friends in the USA had to remove the funding as it became clear that the IRA was training Colombian drug gangs in terrorism, the war on global terrorism ended the gravy train of money and so the IRA surrendered
sinnfeinmurderers 9 months ago
Don't lump all us yanks together there are some of us that see through green tinted spectacles.
REALMcGUIRK 9 months ago
@REALMcGUIRK I can lend you some Orange ones - you'll see much clearer with them.
MrOzanachronism 8 months ago
@MrOzanachronism It would only having me think everyone was wearing fake tan.
REALMcGUIRK 8 months ago
@REALMcGUIRK Sp I won't be seeing you at the bonfire on the 12th at Drumcree then?
MrOzanachronism 8 months ago
@MrOzanachronism looks like you lot couldn't wait till the 12th to burn shit.
REALMcGUIRK 8 months ago
@REALMcGUIRK Aye. I have a big tricolour ready to go on the top . It's a special tricolour. Only the green and white burn.
MrOzanachronism 8 months ago
@MrOzanachronism Saving the orange to wipe ur arse with, great idea.
REALMcGUIRK 8 months ago 3
@MrOzanachronism why ?does that have any special meaning? I am interested in Irish heritage because i find your country insanely beautiful but i only started reading about it so... excuse my ignorance ;)
Lywnis 5 months ago in playlist Provos, Loyalists and Brits
@scrubs22222222 I do not believe an american, above all people, can throw insults about being white trash around!
eire891 9 months ago
T.A.L.
MrJustmypointofview 10 months ago
@scrubs22222222 lol, fucking troll. Get a hobby
88texasman 11 months ago
Ireland the birth place of white trash
scrubs22222222 11 months ago
@scrubs22222222 Typical, blind, fucking, ignoramus..
Dosent see any problems in the world, accept the ones on his own doorstep..
BlackMountainScar 11 months ago
And a younger Peter Taylor with a younger and a softer voice. Must had been broadcast from the 1980s.
SE962582C 11 months ago
That was an old one. I last saw that back in the year 2002 or 2003.
SE962582C 11 months ago
The united states should have came to ireland. They would have wiped the IRA off the map! Joking. I dont understand why you would not want to be apart of the UK? It makes your nation stronger. Im sure both sides had a reason to fight but like ghandi said an eye for an eye would make the world go blind. Catholics and Protestants just need to chill. We both are Christians is that not a strong enough common bond we share?
scrubs22222222 1 year ago
@scrubs22222222
you americans are a laugh..!
crickymufc12 11 months ago
@scrubs22222222 Yeah like you're doing in afghanistan? you've been getting buttfucked by farmers for more than a decade now, and its that "YEAH MAN LETS GO AND GET THE BAD GUYS GUYS" attitude that got you there. most of the men fighting didn't even believe in god. Republican and loyalist areas are full of crime, drugs and violence they're basically ghettos this wasn't some holy war. catholic is a code word for "native" Irish and protestant for "planter" scottish/english settlers.
TheJay9002 11 months ago
@scrubs22222222 your an idiot we dont want to be a part of britain for the same reason you stupid americans didnt either in 1775, it's about the principal and the freedom of running our OWN country, it's not their country to control its ours. p.s you're a stupid cunt
TheAnderson0701 9 months ago
@scrubs22222222 Religion was not the main cause. It was loyalties. So it happened that one side was protestant, but the other - catholic.
Lachausis 8 months ago
It is staggering to believe that all those lives that were lost, tens of thousands of people maimed and terrorised simply because they wanted to unify Ireland and others did not. Regardless of the aim NO cause is worth the abject misery, pain, suffering and unbearable grief of countless souls for 30 years .
The Civil Rights Movement was basically a sound movement dedicated to obtaining basic human rights - so much lost and so much sorrow through sectarianism and tit-for-tat murder. A tragedy.
starryian007 1 year ago
Tens of thousands? You might want to revise that figure, it's not even close to ten thousand....
Ayanocock 1 year ago
@Ayanocock You obviously didn't read my comment correctly. I stated that tens of thousands were......and I quote.......... 'maimed and terrorised' The last time I checked, these figures were correct. Lives lost were in the region of 3,500 on all sides of the conflict.
starryian007 1 year ago
its amazing how similar this is to the Israeli Palestinian conflict, you have two sides committing acts of evil, one side way more powerful than the other, the other side claiming that their acts of evil are justified because they are oppressed, fuck them all, they're all terrorists.
MjXllcommando 1 year ago
Provisional Irish Republican Army
Oglaigh Na Eireann
UNDEFEATED!!
qwertuighjgh 1 year ago
Havent u noticed that Eire want nothing to do with u? They are basically a 3rd world country, do u think they want 6 more counties? Their Minister of State Dr Martin Mansergh admits unity isnt even on their agenda. To be honest your the only one even talking about unity now. The rest have moved on and are helping Northern Ireland move forward!
prideofulster 1 year ago
I'm an American who was was born in 1989 to American's living in the UK at the time people were scared shittless of the IRA; my mom told me a story about a sports' bag left outside their flat that caused the entire building to be evacuated because people thought that it was a nationalists' bomb.
superloosevag 1 year ago
Up de Ra
S4561230 1 year ago
8:19 there are a lot of "lol's"
DeWellstein 1 year ago
up a provos
Fakeman555 1 year ago
Northern Ireland costs mainlaind UK taxpayers £6billion in an annual subsidy. All this money goes to pay for the ridiculous duplication of services, one for the loyalist community and one for the nationalist and the NI police force costs 3 times more per head of population than in England and Wales. I say cut the subsidy get rid of duplication of services, peace walls and segregated education.
petersz98 1 year ago
I have a question for you all that live in N.I. I lived in England in the 1970's as an American. So I remember the violence in N.I. This puzzles me, that is let's pretend 4 a moment that the Brits hand over the northern counties to the Republic of Ireland-therefore it is unified as the Catholics wish to be. What happens to the abandoned Loyalists(whom make up a majority in Belfast)? It would seem to me that they would start an insurgency against the Republic-do to the fact that want 2 remain UK
blkaladdin 1 year ago
@blkaladdin Hello blkaladdin. To answer your question, in my opinion, you are correct, it wouldnt be an insurgency though, loyalists would just begin killing massive amounts of catholic civilians, the irish army would be deployed their immediatley and local nationalist defence networks would be formed to protect nationalist areas. Eventually it would fizzle out and unionists would eventually accept their part on this island. But if the brits dont leave, then their will always be violence.
freedomforpalestine6 1 year ago
@freedomforpalestine6 Fizzle out?? Thats an ignorant view of politics & history. Do u think any man would simply give up his country, heirtage & nationality? One night of rioting would bankrupt your new 'united ireland'. Eire can barely afford the 26 counties they have and admit we are not even on their agenda. And do u really believe catholics in Northern Ireland who are used to living under the socio-economic benefits of the UK, would want to settle for a lower quality of life?
prideofulster 1 year ago
@prideofulster
There not being asked to give up their country, heritage or nationality, they are simply being asked to stop putting there views ahead of everybody elses. We dont want to be simply absorbed into the republic, we want to forge a new nation, with a fresh start for everyone with equal rights for everybody despite their colour, race or religion, And ask the people of ireland what they want and you'll see they want britain out of ireland.
freedomforpalestine6 1 year ago
@freedomforpalestine6 Thats how democracy works, under the terms of the GFA the people of Northern Ireland will determine their own destiny. Clearly the majority want to remain in the UK. Britian is not in Ireland. But if your talking about Northern Ireland, then u must be unaware that the British presence in Northern Ireland is the British people here who wish to remain part of Britian. When the IRA realised this they finally accepted they couldnt bomb us into unity!
prideofulster 1 year ago
@prideofulster
I dont care what 'northern ireland' wants, it is a gerrymandered state and was created to have a unionist majority, It only matters what all of ireland wants, as one country, a referendum across 32 counties will clearly show that the people of ireland want unity. Ireland is made of 32 counties, not just 6. Britain has ignored democracy and the wishes of the irish people for 800 years, as long as the union jack flys over ulster, there will always be war, thats the sad truth.
freedomforpalestine6 1 year ago
@freedomforpalestine6 And that one-sided rant is why people with your political dinosaur, tunnel-vissioned mindset have been left behind while Northern Ireland moves forward!! You delluded yourslef if u think a majority in Northern Ireland will ever vote to settle for a worse quality of life or that Eire even gives a shit about you. Do u think they could even afford it if they did?? lol. Wise up. Your one-sided history lessons are getting old and nobody even listening now!
prideofulster 1 year ago
@prideofulster
Obviously your listening. We dont want to simply become absorbed into the south, we want to create a new all ireland republic with equal rights for EVERYONE, but I had forogt what an outrageous and radical idea equality and justice have become.
freedomforpalestine6 1 year ago
@freedomforpalestine6 Who exactly wants to create this? Sinn Fein are working as part of the Northern Ireland government? And the dissidents just want a united ireland though they arent sure how exactly! Northern Ireland has equality & justice, but bigots like u just want to run around acting the victim because u cant have your own way.
prideofulster 1 year ago
@prideofulster
I am not a bigot, I dont have to act the victim because my people are the victims! How long do you think the equality will last under british rule? We will NEVER accept foreign rule, and if the peaceful route is blocked again, then we will have only one option left.
freedomforpalestine6 1 year ago
@freedomforpalestine6 Have u ever stopped to listen to yourself? The victims are those that were murdered and the IRA were responsible for more than their fair share of the suffering. You dont seem to realise that the democratic majority here are British citizens. And trying to bully & bomb us into unity failed. And whats this 'option' u mention? Join the no-stratedgy, vodka-volunteers in the dissidents, who think leaving a bomb in an area packed with women & kids will somehow win them support!
prideofulster 1 year ago
@prideofulster
No, definetly not the dissidents, I dont support them, they are a corrupt bunch of moneygrabbers, you dont have to join the dissidents to fight.
freedomforpalestine6 1 year ago
@freedomforpalestine6 Fight who?? Northern Irelands place in the UK, is not held by force but by majority consent, in other words the British presence in Northern Ireland is it is those who cherish a British identity, and also many who call themselves irish but recognise the benefit of living under the socio-economic benefits of the UK. The IRA realised they couldnt terrorise this country into a united ireland, and would have use democratic means to try acheive their goals!
prideofulster 1 year ago
@prideofulster
As ive already said, britain will not accept the will of all the irish people, not just the unionists, and until they do, we will have a legitimate right of resistance.
freedomforpalestine6 1 year ago
@freedomforpalestine6 The will of the people?? Havent u heard of the GFA? Northern Irelands place in the UK is secured by majority consent. The irish government & voting electorate also endorsed the agreement and even removed articles 2 & 3. You havent told me yet who u plan to fight? If you plan to fight the British then u would need to start by trying to fight/murder anyone in NI who holds a British identity.. but lets not forget the provos already tried this tactic for 30yrs and it failed.
prideofulster 1 year ago
@prideofulster
If britain doesnt leave we will have to fight them again, the british government, not the british people, the innocent shouldnt suffer for the crimes of their government.
freedomforpalestine6 1 year ago
@freedomforpalestine6 Are u saying u dont support the consent principle & terms of the GF Agreement? You say fight them again, well when exactly did u fight them before?? At Kingsmill? Enniskillen? Darkley?
prideofulster 1 year ago
@prideofulster
Kingsmill and Darkley were crimes beyond comprehension, the perpetrators deserve the death penalty, but they werent carried out by the IRA, they were carried out by rogue elements within the republican community who were frustrated and angered by loyalist murders.. Enniskellen was a mistake, althouhg the IRAs intention was to kill the soldiers at the gathering, that would still have been wrong, I dont hate people for remembering their dead, they have a right to do so.
freedomforpalestine6 1 year ago
@prideofulster
We fought the army and RUC plenty of times, they were our targets, not innocent protestants as you seem to believe.
freedomforpalestine6 1 year ago
@freedomforpalestine6 And what did 'fighting' the army or police acheive? The army left when the IRA quit violence. The IRA's violence just made unionists more determined to protect the union and resist the IRA. Killing soldiers etc was never going to acheive unity. The provos failed campaign & the dissidents current campaign have proved violence will never work. And if innocent protestants werent the target then why did the IRA murder hundreds of them?? What the hell do u expect me to think?
prideofulster 1 year ago
@prideofulster
They also murdered hundreds of innocent catholics, does that mean they wanted to kill them all to? Most civilian deaths were caused by inadequate warnings for bombings, or cases of mistaken identity, or killed in the crossfire on attacks on the security forces.Fighting the army got us 3 out of 4 of our objectives, defence of the nationalist people, civil rights, and the toppling of the old stormont regime, and we'll get a united ireland sooner or later, with or without violence.
freedomforpalestine6 1 year ago
@freedomforpalestine6 How did dragging soldiers onto the streets & engaging in tit-for-tat sectarain murder campaigns with loyalists defend nationalist people? The IRA had nothing to do with civil rights (except the thousands of people they denied the right of life too) and SF now sit up at stormont working as part of the regime the IRA promised to blow out the window! And if u think a united ireland is on anyones agenda then your delluded.
prideofulster 1 year ago
@prideofulster
Defeating loylaist mobs and groups of loyalist gunmen and stopping them from murdering civilians and burning down nationalist areas protected the nationalist people. The IRA won us our civil rights. I was reffering o the old stormont regime that treated nationalists like second class citizens in their own country, the IRA defeated it.
freedomforpalestine6 1 year ago
@freedomforpalestine6 I had 2 uncles targeted and murdered by the IRA for no other reason than their religion, so dont waste time trying to feed me the standard terrorist apologist's half-baked excuses about 'mistaken identity' or 'crossfire' etc.. The IRA engaged in attempted ethnic cleansing in south Armagh and areas of Tyrone, same as loylists did in areas of Belfast, and there is no amount of rhetoric or window dressing that will make a sectarain murder appear as something noble or decent!
prideofulster 1 year ago
@prideofulster
Bullshit, the only time the IRA attacked protestant civilians on purpose was during the retaliatory campaign which was ended soon after it began. Sectarian murder is not noble, it is wrong and imo is worthy of capital punishment, no matter who the perpetrator is.
freedomforpalestine6 1 year ago
@freedomforpalestine6 And who will fight? SF now support democracy and consent principle. And the dissidents are still active doing what the provos used to do but u claim u dont suport them so who exactly will be doing this fighting??
prideofulster 1 year ago
@prideofulster
The people
freedomforpalestine6 1 year ago
@freedomforpalestine6 Maybe you want sympathy, because its so horrible living within the socio-economic benefits of the UK. Maybe u should move to Ireland and see how much more luxurius your life is!
prideofulster 1 year ago
@prideofulster I dont need to move to Ireland, im already there!
freedomforpalestine6 1 year ago
@blkaladdin yes mate. thats why they havent done it :-)
MrRyan200 1 year ago
i am a proud Roman Catholic, and believe in what the church of Rome teaches, but their rules and regulations i could go against such as same sex marriages etc. But religion is nothing to do with politics.. Loyalists turned it into a sectarian war, and people have to think why the dissidents are bombing and killing, its our fucking country you british imperialist bastards!
bowlhead09 1 year ago
here on the orange thing it says lol laugh out loud
ballylucas2k8 1 year ago
ian paisley has vearbal diarea
ballylucas2k8 1 year ago
Sir Oliver, if you were so keen to 'get Ireland off our backs' then why did it take a war to force you out?
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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MsDo28 1 year ago
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MsDo28 1 year ago
LOVE THE NAME PROVOS
leedumett444 1 year ago
Did You ever hear such Bollocks! My Father grew up in a 2 up 2 down house and was unemployed and he was a Protestant! I'm not saying there wasn't discrimination against Catholics its just that it wasn't al one way. You'd think there was no such thing as a poor Protestant from this video!
keyringsarecool 1 year ago
Is this video going to help me for my social studies exam? HELPPP.
15Yat 1 year ago
up the provos!
calBHA1 1 year ago
sinn fein scumbag sellouts I.R.A
kex2010UTH 1 year ago 2
ya but they're not the majority in each county, what about principle of consent? How come the irish people in irelands consent doesnt matter? If they can make a fake border to ensure a majority why not just use the majorities we have in whatever counties we have em, not sayin ur wrong just throwin shit out there
soneil70 1 year ago
i got a question, just curious, what do u think of any counties in the 6 coutnies with nationalist majorities withdrawing or seceding into the "republic of ireland?" would that help or hurt? At least we'd get somethin
soneil70 1 year ago
@soneil70 Its just not logical, each of the counties still have a percentage of the populace who are unionists.
ForzaCeltic89 1 year ago
@ForzaCeltic89 the catholic church is yhe most evil instiution ever seen on yhe face of the earth and yes iam a protestant but in the true sense of the word, would i kill for my believes ? NO but would i die for them yes, dnt get me wrong i understand the struggle 4 identity but 2 kill 4 it ,wise up , and 2 say its not a religious war ,very wrong my friend
stuart7034 1 year ago
@stuart7034 You show your ignorant bigotry with your comments about the catholic church, it is true that the vast majority of nationalists and republicans in Ireland are catholics, but the republican goals are not for a 32 county catholic controlled state. I was brought up a catholic, and no longer practice the faith. I am however an Irish republican and want to see a republic, with equality for all citizens. But to deny this after peaceful means have been tried leaves no option but war.
ForzaCeltic89 1 year ago
@ForzaCeltic89 I AM NOT A BIGOT, i despise all factions of terrorists , provos[not the ira of 1916] uvf uda etc but i do despise those in a modern world who use violence to gain an objective ,however i make no apologies for my stand on the catholic church , if u kuv ur church you would call for the pope 2 face crimanl charges for his actions in protecting child abusers(no rapists), however i do concede 2 the fight of the old ira in ireland ,2 me they were real socalists, your friend
stuart7034 1 year ago
@stuart7034 What would you suggest the provos should have done in 1969? Sit back and allow the nationalist people of the north be denied basic civil rights by orange state they were living in? I said that I am not a practicing catholic, so your comments about the pope are irrelevant in this arguement. In your first comment about the church you called it evil but yet did not give a valid reason why a church that teaches love and respect is evil. Actions of individuals should be punished.
ForzaCeltic89 1 year ago
@ForzaCeltic89 hello friend i do agree with u in certian terms about action but also please rember i grew up in a protestant estate bathed also in poverty as i said civil disobedence is the right way not murder from both sides .and i would like 2 thank u 4 the tone of ur argurment and im sorry if ive went 2 far in mine , check c hitchens on you tube i think ud like him
stuart7034 1 year ago
I never knew the pira had a marxist ideolgy.
patsyd80 1 year ago
I love Oliver Wright, finally we have Ireland off our back and they can govern themselves, LMFAO. I'm sure that the Irish would have been glad to "get of their backs" long before that. What world do these people live in?
goerinbragh 1 year ago
catholics and protestants r not the same prods r british cathics r irish kah
deedsy06 1 year ago
The flag is backwards...looks like the Ivory coast at 3:00
ardeestephen100 1 year ago
religion has because of the unionist and nationalist but deepdown protestants are really catholics
dbell499 1 year ago
@kathryn8169 i never said the IRA were defeated, i said they would have been if the war had continued, collins himself said that thats why he signed the treaty. what im saying is that i would rather have 32 county state ruled by london than the divided nation we have now. and the dublin gov will not rule the all 32 countys, they a weak pathetic individuals. ireland needs a strong military dictatorship, build up the army to suffice standards and invade the north.
dkr56 1 year ago
@kathryn8169 yes ireland should be ruled by ireland but all 32 counties ruled from dublin. not 26 ruled from dublin and another 6 in london. i believe that the war of indepedence should of continued despite the inevitable result of the IRA being defeated becuase all 32 counties ruled from london is better than 2 states on one land.
dkr56 1 year ago
@18Brido88 i meant divided as in partitioned...not divided in ideology. The whole of Ireland ruled by britain is better than having north and south split in 2.
dkr56 1 year ago
@18Brido88 well they should, a country under british rule is still better than a divided nation.
dkr56 1 year ago
Watching Ian Paisley talk I can understand the spell that Hilter cast upon Germany. Spewing nothing but hatred and violence with such a passion, and spiced with raw patriotism. The power of his oratory makes it so easy to be sucked into the reality of his message.
jrkepler 2 years ago
One must admit...
The IRA were a serious force. If social change can be achieved through violence then the IRA were the epitomy of this. Peace reigns now in Ulster but only after struggle and violence made peace the preferrable option.
I feel sorry for the Palastinians, living under the yoke of like oppressors. Their struggle seems doomed. The Gaza ghetto seems destined for liquidation.
I wish Israel and Palastine could reach consensus and equality just like we did in Ireland.
tropicanataste 2 years ago 2
@tropicanataste Where is Israel?? It's called Palestine!
ForzaCeltic89 1 year ago
UP THE RA!
MrCalmlikeaBomb 2 years ago
Long Live the IRA
thexr2 2 years ago 4
how did the war against the brits..lead to partition
dannyboycorby 2 years ago
Propaganda bullshit. The opening line accuses the Provos of causing the troubles, despite the fact they didn't even exist when LOYALISTS. started it.
jordan8445 2 years ago 33
@jordan8445 watch the "loyalists" series
it accuses them of starting the violence.
these documentaries are quite balanced..
Englishpatriot2010 1 year ago
@jordan8445
Sectarian horseshit, doesnt matter who started it, both paramiltaires and "sides" are jsut as guilty as each other.
All War is crime
TheJUMBOJAM 1 year ago
@jordan8445
I just finished watching the Loyalist documentaries, and they portray the loyalist side in a critical light too...Taylor really does give a nonbiased view of the Troubles, as far as I can tell.
s315346 1 year ago 8
Im not happy about it either but check the statistics, You will realize I'm right!
countsmyth 2 years ago
This fact doesn't make your opinion any more valid than mine! This is the weakest argument you can muster! There is a lot of disgrunteld "republicans" who voice opinions such as this! The fact is a huge percentage of nationalist in the North aren't concerned about reunification and dont want it!
countsmyth 2 years ago
Im telling the truth as I see it!
countsmyth 2 years ago
1. Its not a free state any more its a republic! You should admire this fact as its what you say to want! Freedom from the UK! 2. There was civil war over the division, therefore people did give a hoot! The fact is the brits could never hand back Ni even if they wanted! Believe me in the 70s they would have handed it back to Ireland in a second if they could have!
countsmyth 2 years ago
This atitude is bollox!
countsmyth 2 years ago
@irishrover1967 true fine Gael Fianna fail all the same,too busy taking back handers then standing up to the brits dont forget that a small group of anti republican west brits where running RTE with fear during the troubles and a few in the fine geal labour coaltion in the 70s favoured a brits in policy
timpatjoe 2 years ago
@irishrover1967 i do great song ,we didnt do enough but remember there was a lot from the south who gave all
timpatjoe 2 years ago
@irishrover1967 no we didn't just give up we fought a bitter civil war and as you know many brave volunteers came from the south
timpatjoe 2 years ago
divide and conquer thats the Brits for ya, funny thing is most if not all the prod mates i have as well as the girlfriend all hate the english as much as we do so go figure that one out! the free state stopped caring a long fucking time ago alright
nail on fucking head
dancab1916 2 years ago
i love these documentaries
they dont just single out one side to blame
but hear everyones opinions and views =)
y559djr 2 years ago 7
Up the provos. Tiocfaidh ar la, good documentary,
yingyangsang1 2 years ago 2
Paranoid
1987savage 2 years ago
die paisley die!!!
Lourens24 2 years ago
id love to get a union jack and stuff it down gerry adams mouth and choke him with it. hes just bgot one of them faces aint he......
patsyd80 2 years ago
what pussies the ira are!!! scum
sorelladeenuk 2 years ago
lol the pigeons in the north must be divided aswell, looks like a few republican ones shat all over the statue of james craig
paddy260 2 years ago
yea i made a wish and thanked the lord god im not a TAIG
mil2oo6 2 years ago
Why did you wish to be a moron? couldn't you have asked for something else?
paddy260 2 years ago
. Cover your mouth with your hand
2. Make a wish into it.
3.Close your hand (make it into a fist)
4. Hold you hand(the fist) to your heart for 5 seconds.
5.Send this to 3 more videos.
6. Tommorow will be the best day of your life
bignizzy 2 years ago
Thank you for posting these documentaries. Thanks for taking the time to upload both of them.
Very detailed documentaries.
Aulelia 2 years ago 2
Fuck the Loyalists. They are the real terrorists
davidstmckenn 2 years ago