I almost have this song nailed (drums) but I just cannot get the middle part on snare and bass drum (from about 2:08) to work properly.
I'm fine with the hands, but when the bass drum joins in (at around 2:30) it's like your feet and hands have to be playing two different time signatures and I just don't have the processing power in my brain.
Pridgen is incredible, they were fools to get rid of him.
don't try to work them out seperately. Write out the snare part - it's 4/4,5/4 and then figure out where the bass drum falls on or in between beats. practice playing the bass drum on the on- and off-beats and dotted quarter notes. It will make sense eventually. The important thing about playing odd time signatures is to be able to think and play over the bar line, otherwise you end up sounding like a broken record.
It's more like a measure of 4/4 followed by one of 3/8. Same number of counts as 11/8, I know, but it reflects the rhythmic feeling better. The chorus is 4/4, and the middle section is 4/4 followed by 5/4
@retop56 BOTH bands are awesome and both bands have crazy time signatures and rhythms. Gotta admit i prefer TMV; i prefer their more bluesy/Latin melodies and Cedric's voice but Dream Theater are up there with some of my favourite bands ever :)
@retop56 Time signatures? Try Protest the Hero. Or Dillinger Escape plan. But yeah, DT is absolutely epic. Dance of Eternity is a nightmare in terms of time changes. But most of their songs don't usually get that crazy.
Their singer saying at the start he found it hard to make the song sound less angular...he did a great job; well, they all did, cos it doesn't really sound like a crazy time signature; it really flows well. I didn't pay attention when i 1st heard the song but when you listen yeah it is 11/8 but doesn't sound mismatched like some odd time-sig songs do! They're awesome :D
@andthemushrooms123 He failed, but he did what he could. Try and move your head with that stupid ass drum beat during the verses. It doesnt feel right. It's angular and annoying no matter what the singer does, so there was nothing Cedric could do. People like to move their heads, and it just doesnt feel right to this stupid time signature and beat. Part of why this band still is not very famous. Trying so hard to be different that you cant even feel the music properly. It's so awkward.
@trenken It's mainly in 11/8. Count to 11 pretty fast in the riff and it fits.It's a very unusual rhythm for rock music but it works. If you don't agree its probably because you're not used to music in unusual time signatures. While 4/4 and 6/8 are nice to listen to cos they're the norm, its interesting to hear others. I learnt to play this on guitar and sing with it so i know how it fits; it gives the song an uneasy feel which is what they're probably aiming for.I don't mind not moving my head.
@trenken It's not as difficult and awkward to feel and move to as it may seem. In the verse, four solid beats and a pickup of 3 half beats. 4/4 then 3/8. Watch the guitarist cause that's exactly how he feels it.
@ctoacsn I agree entirely. The majority of this song is not difficult feel out at all, the only curve ball I see is the Bridge/Breakdown sections where it is alternating between 4/4 and 5/4. I think the reason it throws me off is due to the interplay between the guitar and drums. Either way, I feel this song flows amazingly and is one of the tightest efforts.
Would be so cool to be at their level. Some of their songs are OK to play, on bass anyway.....But this kind of song must be so difficult. 11/8? Most peculiar indeed.....I really admire these guys-They do something most musicians wouldn`t dare even try-something querky, does what many would call "wrong" things, but it works. Very well too. I have high admiration for the singer also-The wide vocal range he has, and being able to go from high to low in one breath. Great work they have produced.
when i see them chating at the begining, they're still my rock gods, and then they play and it gets so cruel. I've grown with these guys and i don't get this music. Who are they playing for now? snob hipsters? omar inspired me to grab a guitar in the first place. i cried when i lost atdi but even then i was the first human being to ever hear concertina and roulette dares i remember hitting refresh button on the website to hear first songs of the new band the mars volta. Fuck this. R.I.P. ATDI
Easleytee is on crack he said Zappa was doing this style but better ha no fucking way bro these guys are in no way comparable to Zappa ! Zappa in his own right was killer .
i'm not sure if my favorite TMV song is Cotopaxi or Viscera Eyes. The live version is awesome. Search Viscera Eyes Yahoo in youtube if you haven't seen it yet. But damn cotopaxi just flat out rocks!!
@Easleytee No questions about that. But I don't think you should even mention Zappa to talk about Mars Volta. It's a somewhat unfare battle. Nevertheless, not many bands groove like this in 11/8, u gotta give them credit for that.
@a1gold176 hey goldfarb, you ever heard of pussy you fucking tool. im guna cut off cedrics ball fro of his head, wipe lopresti's ass with it, put it in 11/8 all ram it up your dickhole you lil douche. 11/8 sucks maybe if you didnt play covers all the time you would be able to play better than 11/8. im guna butt rape paul green.btw this is keith stienberg and funuka
@lllChokelll I like drumming to this song, I just think of it as a 4/4 measure then a 5/4 measure, or just 2 4/4 measures with a 1 beat drum solo every other one
@tupacrulznxr@tupacrulznxr It's fucking crazy isn't it, and they are so tight.. I guess you could say the breakdown is an additive of: 4+5/4. But that's just silly talk :)
TMV has such great bass because Omar used to play bass and is essentially a bass player still. I mean come on, he uses triads on guitar like they are going out of style. Juan is simply the shit for pulling off anything Omar throws at him. Juan is not some creative genius, so he fits into the support role perfectly. And the man is a fuckin ton of titanium with Niagara falls running all around him. So solid that he keeps the Omar/Cedric/Pridgen shit-storm together.
@MajkeTiTvoje I like TMV, a lot, but they cant touch Rush. First of all, Neil is a FAR greater lyricist then Cedric is. Geddy actually sings on key all the time live, unlike Cedric, and as a band Rush has covered many different styles of music, where TMV basically just sticks to the same thing and mixes that up a bit, but they havent expanded like Rush did. Rush is legendary, they were before any of them even hit 30 years old, TMV are in their mid-late 30s and are basically still underground.
@trenken i agree. Rush is one of my all time favourites. But if you look at todays music and what it offers you must admit TMV is quite an impressive and innovative band. And wasnt Peart voted as one of the worst lyricists in rock? I find them quite intelligent and thoughtful
@trenken Yeah he was voted that by some dude that obviously didnt have the intelligence to even comprehend the things Neil writes about. Cedrics lyrics dont do anything for me. They're overly abstract and awkward. Neils lyrics have taught me things. TMV is close to what Rush is than most bands out there these days, but they still cant touch Rush.
Meh, you know maybe you're right, maybe I am. I actually don't think any of their drummers are better than each other. They all just have different styles that they express differently. All unique in a way.
Does people know there even exist a bass player? Haven't seen or heard much of this band, but it pisses me off that its so hard to film bass players. I find them 10x as interresting to watch than guitarists, and the bass line in this song seems sweet.
the music is just a free expression, not a competition, this is just a mirror of what they felt the moment they wrote it, they never said "oh i´m a the bes, everything else is shitt"
I just cant understand how these fuckers can be so stupid to lose such a badass drummer like thomas..... man that dude was the perfect beat for the mars volta..... i love tmv but these fools gotta give more credit to their band mates.... these two lil fuckers gotta recognize that its not only about them.........
The weakest part of this band is obviously Cedric. Sorry he is just not a great singer. He sounds fine on the albums of course, most singers sound great in a studio, but like this guy is pretty awful. Trying to sing outside of his range. Needs to start writing lower.
@trenken You're right, maybe Cedric sometimes tries to sing above his range, but in the mars volta, Cedric's voice is just another instrument, not more or less important than the bass or drums. Togheter they make the most psychedelic sound i've ever heard...
Oh and they have lots of songs that are in a lower range... Those songs are like The Mars Volta's version of chill... Have you ever heard Octahedron by chance?
@Lyron7 Yeah I have that album. Its just clear since he's getting older he just hand hit those extreme highs anymore. He's never able to do it live, he just needs to start writing in a lower key and he'll sound much better.
Music is more about what you create, not what you can recreate live, at least that's what i think =)
I love what he does.. actually his lyrics mixed with melodies, and knowing exactly where the songs asks for a scream, and flowing so well in weird music omar creates, cedric is my favorite singer.
Anyway.. in desperate graves he hits one of the highest notes he ever did in a song from TMV (not including live performances), so he's not going lower, yet.
@sebaba001 This is a rock band, what they can do live is kind of important, because it makes them look like they are unable to reproduce what they can in the studio. The band itself is always good live, but Cedric is not. He can hit those note in a studio when he can keep trying it and use the best takes, but live this guy can NEVER hit these notes well. He's in his mid-30's now and his skills are going down, it happens to every single singer out there. So now he needs to just start writing low.
@jedphelym Actually jazz made love to rock way before the Mars Volta. The first jazz fusion album is "Bitches Brew" by Miles Davis. These guys are heavily influenced the jazz fusion and prog-rock acts that came before.
ok, I went and checked out that band 'closure in moscow' and you sent me to a god damn emo shit band....how in the world you link that pretty boy gay shit music to the epicness of the volta eludes me, you sir have a very misguided sense in music.
The bass is crazy in the chorus
GDhaenens 5 days ago
skate to the studio, skate back
afbwelsh 1 week ago
MI ECUADOOOOR COTOPAXI!
Rikx009 1 week ago
SOS - Son of Steve Perry
kswannie 2 weeks ago
the 11/8 part is sweet but don't forget the other section (bridge?) is in 9 (groupings of 5 and 4). Very tricky feel as well.
Timmmaaahhy 2 weeks ago
Bass line is insane!
kirkpazdzioch 3 weeks ago
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kirkpazdzioch 3 weeks ago
What album is this on?
mikelusmc12 1 month ago
@mikelusmc12 octahedron
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Mega dope.
elffrog 1 month ago
whta the fuck is 11/8???
StenooLive 1 month ago
@StenooLive The time signature of the song
OscarCousin 1 month ago
@OscarCousin Not the entire song
cyphr6 1 month ago
@StenooLive Time signature that most "prog rock" is known for. Many drummers can't pull it off; but Thomas Pridgen owns that shit!
prettynoose8497 1 month ago 2
vocalist looks like jose mourinho
ambientsky01 1 month ago
666 like.. 6 dislikes
subwaychildren1 1 month ago
which album is this off?
SolTetto 2 months ago
@SolTetto Octahedron, released in '09, great album.
insanityea 2 months ago
jesus christ,listen to that bass line....amaaaazing..I now need to lay down
johnnyfourhats 2 months ago 2
I almost have this song nailed (drums) but I just cannot get the middle part on snare and bass drum (from about 2:08) to work properly.
I'm fine with the hands, but when the bass drum joins in (at around 2:30) it's like your feet and hands have to be playing two different time signatures and I just don't have the processing power in my brain.
Pridgen is incredible, they were fools to get rid of him.
alihire 3 months ago
@alihire lol its not that hard
TheConditionedHuman 3 months ago
@alihire
don't try to work them out seperately. Write out the snare part - it's 4/4,5/4 and then figure out where the bass drum falls on or in between beats. practice playing the bass drum on the on- and off-beats and dotted quarter notes. It will make sense eventually. The important thing about playing odd time signatures is to be able to think and play over the bar line, otherwise you end up sounding like a broken record.
glgl
IsawUupThere 3 months ago 2
It's more like a measure of 4/4 followed by one of 3/8. Same number of counts as 11/8, I know, but it reflects the rhythmic feeling better. The chorus is 4/4, and the middle section is 4/4 followed by 5/4
ctoacsn 3 months ago
What an incredible song!
samucalencar1 3 months ago
Pridgen's wearing a shirt?
joeymcdermott 3 months ago
I like the singer's helmet
Metathronos 3 months ago 3
If you guys think this is "epic" in terms of time signatures.....listen to Dream Theater, then come back to me.
retop56 3 months ago
@retop56 with all the respect to DT, my dear friend,this comment is a TOTAL FAIL.
tremonti1234 3 months ago
@retop56 BOTH bands are awesome and both bands have crazy time signatures and rhythms. Gotta admit i prefer TMV; i prefer their more bluesy/Latin melodies and Cedric's voice but Dream Theater are up there with some of my favourite bands ever :)
andthemushrooms123 3 months ago
@retop56 Time signatures? Try Protest the Hero. Or Dillinger Escape plan. But yeah, DT is absolutely epic. Dance of Eternity is a nightmare in terms of time changes. But most of their songs don't usually get that crazy.
SubwayStar7 3 months ago
I love how the director chose to never show Juan, especially when he was playing these great technical bass licks... oh wait... NO I FUCKING DON"T!
Breslof 4 months ago
Juan is one CRAZY Mutha Fucka!!!!!!!!!!
gkjh9519HD 4 months ago
This song is why they're The Mars Volta and everyone else isn't.
drumnude 4 months ago
if you like odd time signatures , listen to Aka Moon
wodoza 4 months ago
it kicked my ass
toolR4gays69 4 months ago
Their singer saying at the start he found it hard to make the song sound less angular...he did a great job; well, they all did, cos it doesn't really sound like a crazy time signature; it really flows well. I didn't pay attention when i 1st heard the song but when you listen yeah it is 11/8 but doesn't sound mismatched like some odd time-sig songs do! They're awesome :D
andthemushrooms123 4 months ago
@andthemushrooms123 He failed, but he did what he could. Try and move your head with that stupid ass drum beat during the verses. It doesnt feel right. It's angular and annoying no matter what the singer does, so there was nothing Cedric could do. People like to move their heads, and it just doesnt feel right to this stupid time signature and beat. Part of why this band still is not very famous. Trying so hard to be different that you cant even feel the music properly. It's so awkward.
trenken 3 months ago
@trenken It's mainly in 11/8. Count to 11 pretty fast in the riff and it fits.It's a very unusual rhythm for rock music but it works. If you don't agree its probably because you're not used to music in unusual time signatures. While 4/4 and 6/8 are nice to listen to cos they're the norm, its interesting to hear others. I learnt to play this on guitar and sing with it so i know how it fits; it gives the song an uneasy feel which is what they're probably aiming for.I don't mind not moving my head.
andthemushrooms123 3 months ago
@trenken It's not as difficult and awkward to feel and move to as it may seem. In the verse, four solid beats and a pickup of 3 half beats. 4/4 then 3/8. Watch the guitarist cause that's exactly how he feels it.
ctoacsn 3 months ago
@ctoacsn I agree entirely. The majority of this song is not difficult feel out at all, the only curve ball I see is the Bridge/Breakdown sections where it is alternating between 4/4 and 5/4. I think the reason it throws me off is due to the interplay between the guitar and drums. Either way, I feel this song flows amazingly and is one of the tightest efforts.
1Muzition1 3 months ago
Would be so cool to be at their level. Some of their songs are OK to play, on bass anyway.....But this kind of song must be so difficult. 11/8? Most peculiar indeed.....I really admire these guys-They do something most musicians wouldn`t dare even try-something querky, does what many would call "wrong" things, but it works. Very well too. I have high admiration for the singer also-The wide vocal range he has, and being able to go from high to low in one breath. Great work they have produced.
guitargoddess002 4 months ago
This is what happens when you put some of the best musicians in the world in a room.
h879xx 4 months ago 2
omfg bass player if awesome
adarov 4 months ago
Omar and Pridgen are having so much fun here!
xTomei 4 months ago
when i see them chating at the begining, they're still my rock gods, and then they play and it gets so cruel. I've grown with these guys and i don't get this music. Who are they playing for now? snob hipsters? omar inspired me to grab a guitar in the first place. i cried when i lost atdi but even then i was the first human being to ever hear concertina and roulette dares i remember hitting refresh button on the website to hear first songs of the new band the mars volta. Fuck this. R.I.P. ATDI
seiter13 5 months ago
@seiter13 Hipster idiot that doesn't understand musical progress number 1,425,347. Congratulations hipster. This song fucking MOVES.
jaymanela 4 months ago
@jaymanela ?
seiter13 4 months ago
Big nasty ass !!! I love these guys they have something different and it's strong
ronnysessum 5 months ago
Easleytee is on crack he said Zappa was doing this style but better ha no fucking way bro these guys are in no way comparable to Zappa ! Zappa in his own right was killer .
But Mars Volta got some ass bro
ronnysessum 5 months ago
Juan Alderete!!! es un cabron!!!! es un papuki....
dinkymau 5 months ago
I hear Axel Rose.
Paperhouse81 5 months ago
bass line during the chorus is out of this world
renaud68 5 months ago
these drums sound better than the ones recorded on the studio recording... huge
ldiller510 5 months ago
wow did he go back to the 70's in a time machine and borrow kevin keegans barnet for this gig?
philkearney0577 5 months ago
i'm not sure if my favorite TMV song is Cotopaxi or Viscera Eyes. The live version is awesome. Search Viscera Eyes Yahoo in youtube if you haven't seen it yet. But damn cotopaxi just flat out rocks!!
davidsapp777 5 months ago
Cedric sounds great here. You have to give him a lot of credit for being over 30 and being able to hit those notes.
Toothpastediet 5 months ago
I wanna shoot the cameramen for not filming the bassist durings the choruses.
What is so fucking interesting about watching Omar plowing chords with a ton of wah when the bassist is going absolutely mental?
adrian0hlund 5 months ago 3
To me, one of the best moments of the band, pridgen and the wind instrument guys will be missed....
StofferZero 5 months ago
Omar takes his glasses off all casual at the end like "Yeah, that shit just happened. But I'm playing it off like it's no big deal."
craponyourface 5 months ago 2
Zappa was doing this shit some 35+ years ago...and far better.
Check out Uncle Meat.
Dolts.
Easleytee 6 months ago
@Easleytee No questions about that. But I don't think you should even mention Zappa to talk about Mars Volta. It's a somewhat unfare battle. Nevertheless, not many bands groove like this in 11/8, u gotta give them credit for that.
apolotorres 6 months ago
THE NEWER THE MUSIC THE NEWER THE DRUMMER....JON THEADORE THE HARDEST ONE.... MY OPINION
Rich4rm951 6 months ago
My dick neighbor: "11/8 hasn't gotten anyone pussy since the 70's."
Me: "Have you heard of The Mars Volta?"
a1gold176 6 months ago 24
@a1gold176 "like a boss"
brunopcisco 2 months ago
@a1gold176 idk if the mars volta has ever seen or heard of pussy unless its cedrics... fucking cocksucking mexican
houseshoesbto 1 month ago
@a1gold176 hey goldfarb, you ever heard of pussy you fucking tool. im guna cut off cedrics ball fro of his head, wipe lopresti's ass with it, put it in 11/8 all ram it up your dickhole you lil douche. 11/8 sucks maybe if you didnt play covers all the time you would be able to play better than 11/8. im guna butt rape paul green.btw this is keith stienberg and funuka
b15bomber 1 month ago
That time change at at 2:45 is a bitchhhhhhhhhh. Hard to get down perfectly for sure. I'm gonna throw my guitar out the window.
lllChokelll 6 months ago 2
@lllChokelll I like drumming to this song, I just think of it as a 4/4 measure then a 5/4 measure, or just 2 4/4 measures with a 1 beat drum solo every other one
TP1R 6 months ago
Juan tears that bass up!
fantacist 7 months ago
Cedric looks like fucking Frodo at the start of this.
YaHozna1 7 months ago 2
the drummer needs to move a little more.. he seems kind of stiff and uptight..
underscoredrums 7 months ago
@underscoredrums Don't think he's in the band anymore.
gdhamell 7 months ago
@gdhamell gardening accident?
underscoredrums 7 months ago
@underscoredrums Is that sarcasm? Sure hope so.
Dylanownsguitarhero 7 months ago
@underscoredrums
i think he's busy making people shit their pants with his amazing drumming skills man. no offense though not trying to be a dick lol
qarDZebra 7 months ago
@qarDZebra haha i was bein a smart ass brotha. he's a crazy drummer i saw these guys at sasquatch a couple years ago. they're all motherfuckers hahaha
underscoredrums 7 months ago
who the hell rocks in 11/8. mars volta that's fuckin who
seamouse007 7 months ago 80
@seamouse007
Thorellg 1 month ago
@seamouse007 who rocks in 13/8 you bitch? billy mays is the answer you cocksucker
houseshoesbto 1 month ago
compases irregulares!!!!!! :D me encantaaaa!!!!...
sonnyIDI 7 months ago
does anybody knows the time signature of this song?
SloppyLoveJingle 8 months ago
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tupacrulznxr 8 months ago
@tupacrulznxr thanks ;)
SloppyLoveJingle 8 months ago
@SloppyLoveJingle 11/8 verses, 4/4 chorus, breakdown etc, bars of 4/4+5/4
tupacrulznxr 8 months ago
@tupacrulznxr @tupacrulznxr It's fucking crazy isn't it, and they are so tight.. I guess you could say the breakdown is an additive of: 4+5/4. But that's just silly talk :)
GeorgeBguitar 7 months ago
@SloppyLoveJingle its a few different ones depending on the section of the song
powerkor1 7 months ago
Now that's electric bass.
politepanda 8 months ago
The funny part, Juan is old enough to be Thomas's dad!
Juan was playing in the hair metal band Racer X back in the 80's (look up scarified 1988 to see a vid)....back when he was just "John".
He's easily 22-23 years OLDER than Thomas.
BTW, what's your dad doing tonight?...bet he's not playing in your favorite band...lol!
transmittance 8 months ago
Led Zeppelin + Black sabbath + Jimi Hendrix = The Mars Volta
chupeteguaya 8 months ago 3
thumbs up enrique jose!!!! vas pal show en Puerto Rico?
meccachico 8 months ago
thumbs up enrique jose!!!! vas pal show en Puerto Rico?
meccachico 8 months ago
Omar Rodriguez es puertorrique~o !!! :D thumbs up if you understand me!
enriquejose17 8 months ago
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thumbs up enrique jose!!!! vas pal show en Puerto Rico?
meccachico 8 months ago
The Mars Volta : "We consider Octahedron to be our Acoustic Album."
(Cotopaxi comes on)
The World: "Wait, what?"
Apocol0id 8 months ago 3
Awesome! Juan is class but the whole band kicks my ass!
RadioDynamic 8 months ago
asshole cameramen never show Juan doing his thing shame.
777BassGirl 8 months ago
fuck the break is pure magic ;D
alterg33k 8 months ago
Thomas = Pure energy
TheDrumfabio 8 months ago
drummer is insane !
DionH62 8 months ago
this band isn't as wierd as people think they are
XXNIRVANAXX1000 9 months ago
the 4 motherfuckers that disliked this video is deaf, and hates the world of music because they can't hear the awesomeness that comes with it.
IIStenvoldII 9 months ago
Que buena canción .. Los ojos Cedric <3 Su magnífica voz!!!!!!!
monikTMV 9 months ago
cotopaxi que tema copado!!!!!!!!!!!
jessy8281 9 months ago
this is from their "acoustic" album. ha
Jackwell1029384756 9 months ago
viva mexico cabrones!
veryintricated 9 months ago
I had never noticed the crazy walking bass in the chorus in this song. Very impressive!
Skapete 9 months ago
TMV has such great bass because Omar used to play bass and is essentially a bass player still. I mean come on, he uses triads on guitar like they are going out of style. Juan is simply the shit for pulling off anything Omar throws at him. Juan is not some creative genius, so he fits into the support role perfectly. And the man is a fuckin ton of titanium with Niagara falls running all around him. So solid that he keeps the Omar/Cedric/Pridgen shit-storm together.
TinAGuitar 9 months ago
@TinAGuitar Very true, well-said.
PoeticJustice05 9 months ago
totally agree
MOtBworld 9 months ago
bass player is fucking insane epic
fortress8 9 months ago 70
@fortress8 Juan Fuckin' Alderete :)
ImFuckinHype 8 months ago
@fortress8 The bass player is Juan Alderete from Racer X. He's a fantastic bassist!
Spermwhales93 7 months ago 10
@fortress8 he has an insane understanding with Pridgen and Omar. Mars Volta are so tight!!!
aektzis91 6 months ago
@fortress8 true but their all fucking sick epic
420Dirtmcgirt 4 months ago
@fortress8 i just thinking the same, drum and bass
kbekin 3 months ago
@medicinalsnowball LOL GO AWAY
benIbarwick 10 months ago
I just fking love this song
novusordum 10 months ago
fuck thomas pridgen
arcticunggoy 10 months ago
Cedric is the only singer i have ever heard that doesn't lose any tone when i hear him live. it's effing awesome.
wetfett 10 months ago
Since when did they hire Frodo to sing for them?
medicinalsnowball 10 months ago
@medicinalsnowball Hahhahahaha you made me laugh but I hate your comment at the same time
s4msam 10 months ago
the point is that sounds a 11/8 for everybody, even if he want to put under, then sound out of time,
@Jackwell1029384756 bis, music ain´t about the numbers!
seroazar 10 months ago
one bar of 4/4 then one of 3/8 is virtually the same as 11/8. Either way it's so syncopated that there is no 'right' way to put it under haha
darkmessiahnz 10 months ago
YES!!!!!
zcarmont 10 months ago
@Jackwell1029384756 When it comes down to it, does it matter? Music ain't about the numbers
FnkDrms89 10 months ago
Rush is too cheesy for me.
1stcrayvenaa 10 months ago
11/8
FnkDrms89 10 months ago
@FnkDrms89 no i figured it out with my drem teacher, i thought it was 11/8 too but now i think it's one bar of 4/4 and one bar of 3/8
Jackwell1029384756 10 months ago
@Jackwell1029384756 that is the same thing as 11/8
cooliovasquez 10 months ago
@cooliovasquez yea but it just feels more natural to count it my way, there's no right or wrong way to count it
Jackwell1029384756 10 months ago
holy shit i can't figure out the time signature in the verse, does anyone know what it is?
Jackwell1029384756 10 months ago
bass licks bass licks bass licks bass licks
MusicallyCharged 11 months ago
I am glad though that they had a really good sound guy for this show.
FluffyMuffina 11 months ago
and ikey
berniegio666 11 months ago
they are like the new rush
MajkeTiTvoje 11 months ago
@MajkeTiTvoje I like TMV, a lot, but they cant touch Rush. First of all, Neil is a FAR greater lyricist then Cedric is. Geddy actually sings on key all the time live, unlike Cedric, and as a band Rush has covered many different styles of music, where TMV basically just sticks to the same thing and mixes that up a bit, but they havent expanded like Rush did. Rush is legendary, they were before any of them even hit 30 years old, TMV are in their mid-late 30s and are basically still underground.
trenken 11 months ago
@trenken i agree. Rush is one of my all time favourites. But if you look at todays music and what it offers you must admit TMV is quite an impressive and innovative band. And wasnt Peart voted as one of the worst lyricists in rock? I find them quite intelligent and thoughtful
MajkeTiTvoje 11 months ago
@trenken Yeah he was voted that by some dude that obviously didnt have the intelligence to even comprehend the things Neil writes about. Cedrics lyrics dont do anything for me. They're overly abstract and awkward. Neils lyrics have taught me things. TMV is close to what Rush is than most bands out there these days, but they still cant touch Rush.
trenken 11 months ago
hope mars volta find another drummer as good a THomas.
thescientistpr 1 year ago
@thescientistpr chances are, they won't.
kkphi08 1 year ago
@kkphi08 Did Thomas quit!?
MyEggIsBoiled 11 months ago
@thescientistpr
Have you seen Deantoni Parks? My god what a drummer they picked up..probably the best they've ever had.
XxShindouxX 11 months ago
@XxShindouxX he is a AWSOME drummer but no better than Thomas.
thescientistpr 11 months ago
@thescientistpr
Meh, you know maybe you're right, maybe I am. I actually don't think any of their drummers are better than each other. They all just have different styles that they express differently. All unique in a way.
XxShindouxX 11 months ago
11/8 :D
endlessroad124 1 year ago
the drummer and bassist are tight******
jcbillog 1 year ago 5
this is a fucking amazing video, i love the mars volta with passion
the drummer is tight
the guitarist is in the zone
the singer is creating visions through words
the effects are taking me to the next dimension
peace be with all and listen to the mars volta
x
jcbillog 1 year ago
Does people know there even exist a bass player? Haven't seen or heard much of this band, but it pisses me off that its so hard to film bass players. I find them 10x as interresting to watch than guitarists, and the bass line in this song seems sweet.
Sargatha 1 year ago 2
@Sargatha Juan Alderete is a fucking beast. People need to figure that out.
obeytheory 1 year ago
@Sargatha I ask myself this question all the time.
MyEggIsBoiled 11 months ago
bass line is the best part of this song.
tdeegan525 1 year ago 3
It seems as if all these Abbey Road recordings are a lot tighter/cleaner. Like they weren't on drugs when this was recorded.
create812 1 year ago
the music is just a free expression, not a competition, this is just a mirror of what they felt the moment they wrote it, they never said "oh i´m a the bes, everything else is shitt"
svtrs1 1 year ago
dirty thomas having sex with the drums again ,love that boy
xtianor 1 year ago 3
Juan's playing through this whole song is amazing
TheWelderJDF 1 year ago
Cedric reminds an old fart like me of Rob Tyner. This shit is god!
9Kzaar11 1 year ago
<3
veaganskaterkid 1 year ago
this was one of pridgens last performans right? by that date he left the band i think
isaid17 1 year ago
I just cant understand how these fuckers can be so stupid to lose such a badass drummer like thomas..... man that dude was the perfect beat for the mars volta..... i love tmv but these fools gotta give more credit to their band mates.... these two lil fuckers gotta recognize that its not only about them.........
zapatarian 1 year ago
The weakest part of this band is obviously Cedric. Sorry he is just not a great singer. He sounds fine on the albums of course, most singers sound great in a studio, but like this guy is pretty awful. Trying to sing outside of his range. Needs to start writing lower.
trenken 1 year ago
@trenken You're right, maybe Cedric sometimes tries to sing above his range, but in the mars volta, Cedric's voice is just another instrument, not more or less important than the bass or drums. Togheter they make the most psychedelic sound i've ever heard...
Oh and they have lots of songs that are in a lower range... Those songs are like The Mars Volta's version of chill... Have you ever heard Octahedron by chance?
Lyron7 1 year ago
@Lyron7 Yeah I have that album. Its just clear since he's getting older he just hand hit those extreme highs anymore. He's never able to do it live, he just needs to start writing in a lower key and he'll sound much better.
trenken 1 year ago
@trenken what do you mean with hand hit?..
Music is more about what you create, not what you can recreate live, at least that's what i think =)
I love what he does.. actually his lyrics mixed with melodies, and knowing exactly where the songs asks for a scream, and flowing so well in weird music omar creates, cedric is my favorite singer.
Anyway.. in desperate graves he hits one of the highest notes he ever did in a song from TMV (not including live performances), so he's not going lower, yet.
sebaba001 1 year ago
@sebaba001 This is a rock band, what they can do live is kind of important, because it makes them look like they are unable to reproduce what they can in the studio. The band itself is always good live, but Cedric is not. He can hit those note in a studio when he can keep trying it and use the best takes, but live this guy can NEVER hit these notes well. He's in his mid-30's now and his skills are going down, it happens to every single singer out there. So now he needs to just start writing low.
trenken 1 year ago
its like rage against the machine, stevie wonder, and Jamiroquai all in one
animalmother4 1 year ago
juan is the cornerstone
johntoledo 1 year ago
Jazz made love to rock.
They named the child The Mars Volta.
Awwhh.
jedphelym 1 year ago 28
@jedphelym Actually jazz made love to rock way before the Mars Volta. The first jazz fusion album is "Bitches Brew" by Miles Davis. These guys are heavily influenced the jazz fusion and prog-rock acts that came before.
PoeticJustice05 9 months ago
@PoeticJustice05 But "In a Silent Way" was released before Bitches Brew...
birchofacookie 9 months ago
@jedphelym
i think they named him the mahavishnu orchestra...but maybe not
1juggly 9 months ago 2
@1juggly Awesome band didnt know of them untii I heard TMV but there are the pioneers of this type of music in my eyes.
jgm3100 8 months ago
@jedphelym It seems you've never heard of the Mahavishnu Orchestra ;)
oclero 8 months ago
@jedphelym UUUAAAGGGHHH YEEEAAAAHHH....
enriquejose17 8 months ago
@jedphelym It gave birth to many before the Volta. King Crimson, et all.
parallelogramammoth 8 months ago 2
@jedphelym that's what prog newbies actually believe
cr1msonking93 8 months ago
Thomas Pridgen, one of the best drummers for me, love this band
great musicians.
trynuxxx 1 year ago
ok, I went and checked out that band 'closure in moscow' and you sent me to a god damn emo shit band....how in the world you link that pretty boy gay shit music to the epicness of the volta eludes me, you sir have a very misguided sense in music.
shitfeast 1 year ago
@shitfeast Thanks for the heads up.
HarrisonRae 1 year ago
@shitfeast
but how come I and some of my friends like both those bands, I think mars volta has plenty of emotion.
ryremusic 1 year ago