Heat your home from water HHO hydroxy

[genadiy24]

Эдисон тоже был не признан и все другие изобретатели нашей эры должно было пройти время для воплощение их мечты -и говорить вот это не правильно или так не работает глупо!!!Edison also was not recognized, and all other inventors of our era it would take time for the embodiment of their dreams and say that's not correct or does not work that stupid!

[KyleCarrington]

A Non-Equlibrium Free Energy Thereom For Deterministic Systems

rsc . anu . edu . au /~evans/papers/NEFET . pdf

[KyleCarrington]

The Fluctuation Theorem quantifies the probability of Second Law violations in small systems over small timescales.

rsc . anu . edu . au /~evans/papers/SSFT . pdf

[KyleCarrington]

@a1mint You come here armed with something your grade nine science teacher taught you 10 years ago, and you are too lazy to actually observe what is happening around you BY PEER REVIEWED Phd's and your pure laziness allows you to "make claims" like you had science behind you.. well READ UP science has quite obviously left you behind the times, guess what theres more to it than grade nine, and things do change DUH

[KyleCarrington]

You so easily come here and argue that the Laws of Science cannot be broken, yet top physicists worldwide are breaking them, and getting peer reviews and new branches of science started, and you think you have a point? You argue Science itself dumb@#s? Physics peer reviews claim Denis Evans of the Australian National University and colleagues have shown that entropy can be consumed – rather than generated - AND YOU ARGUE THAT PEER REVIEW? You are f^$#g FOOL!

[terrymorse]

@KyleCarrington I believe you have misinterpreted Evans' paper. It does not state that entropy can be consumed, but it does mention entropy can be absorbed by a thermostatting wall (the equivalent of a thermal reservoir). I don't see where Evans has invalidated the Second Law.

[KyleCarrington]

@terrymorse I quote "The Theorem resolves the paradox of how time-reversible microscopic dynamics leads, to irreversible macroscopic behaviour. It also implies that as devices are made smaller and smaller the probability that they will run thermodynamically in reverse to what one would expect, increases exponentially with decreasing system size and observation time." Any system could easily "absorb" another system's lost heat. It's more than that as I see it. It is Non Equilibrium

[a1mint]

@KyleCarrington Nitpicking over how someone research papers are written, is not going change one god damn thing.

The fact remains that people can NOT expect to see any benefits whatsoever from HHO based home heaters or on board on demand HHO systems in cars.

And *THAT* is what this is *ALL* about.

You lying QUACKS sit there and try to muddy science, in the hopes that you make people think that they can tap in to some gooey mystical magical something that can tap from.

NOT GOING TO WORK !

[terrymorse]

@KyleCarrington Since entropy is a statistical macroscopic quantity, it makes sense that the very small and very short time durations have a higher probability of showing reversibility. Even in a macroscopic system, there is a (very small) probability that heat could flow from a cooler body to a hotter body.

I have no idea how this very small world relates to our real world problem of heating a house.

[KyleCarrington]

So often we use classical physics and Maxwell's equations to govern our engineering but that by no means states unequivocally that all is being considered. Laws of Electricity and Magnetics are observable trends subject to new discoveries in Quantum electrodynamics. In other words, it ain't written in stone.

[KyleCarrington]

In modern physics, the electromagnetic field is understood to be not a classical field, but rather a quantum field; it is represented not as a vector of three numbers at each point, but as a vector of three quantum operators at each point. The most accurate modern description of the electromagnetic interaction (and much else) is Quantum electrodynamics (QED),[19] which is incorporated into a more complete theory known as the "Standard Model of particle physics" ~wikipedia

[KyleCarrington]

Dr. Deborah D. L. Chung, professor of mechanical and aerospace engineering at University at Buffalo (UB), reported that she had observed apparent negative resistance in interfaces between layers of carbon fibers in a composite material. Professor Chung holds the Niagara Mohawk Chair in Materials Research at UB and is internationally recognized for her work in smart materials and carbon composites.

[KyleCarrington]

Denis Evans of the Australian National University and colleagues have shown that entropy can be consumed – rather than generated – in small systems over short periods of time. In a July 9, 1998, at the 5th International Conference on Composites Engineering in Las Vegas, Dr. Deborah D. L. Chung,a professor of mechanical and aerospace engineering at University at Buffalo (UB).

[KyleCarrington]

The laws of physics do govern the world, but the history of science is the history of changes in how we understand science. Imagine what people thought when Einstein came along!!! How dare he defy Newtonian logic!!! But in time, it is learned these things are real. Entropy is not exactly as we thought it was, not in each and every case. Physics 400. Not 101.

[KyleCarrington]

i have created an incredible amount of BTU output from HHO by similar means - combining a simple airflow. Problem is, while the heat output is fantastic - so are the levels of NOx. I think the answer to HHO heat is to use a very tiny HHO flame to induce state change of ammonia gas. The gas then removes the "heat" from outside and condenses, and dissipates the heat inside. An HHO heat pump, like an RV fridge that attempts to cool the outdoors, dissipating the heat into your home.

[KyleCarrington]

is that it raises whatever it is held to, to that substances melting point, despite it's low flame temperature. My tiny HHO torch will raise stainless steel thousands of degrees hotter than the flame itself. So, before you theorize on something you haven't cared to experiment with, think first at how the true mentors of science discovered things. By way of experiment, not critique! The key is to find something that doesn't burn up and disappear or make toxic fumes - a challenge indeed!

[terrymorse]

@KyleCarrington "My tiny HHO torch will raise stainless steel thousands of degrees hotter than the flame itself."

No kidding? So heat from a flame makes something hotter than the flame. You have just broken the Second Law of Thermodynamics. Congratulations! Better call the Nobel committee.

[KyleCarrington]

@terrymorse No actually it doesn't, it's all been well documented and scientifically studied. It's not defying physics, it just has an electrical quality to the flame that most don't. If you look it up, it's all there, don't take my word for it. It is bizarre for sure, but not overunity.

[terrymorse]

@KyleCarrington Where do I look up this "electrical quality to the flame" that allows it to heat something hotter than the flame itself?

I wasn't claiming overunity, which is more energy output than input. I say that you violated the Second Law: heat can't flow from a colder body to a hotter body.

[KyleCarrington]

@terrymorse I think I am being misleading, you are actually right... "The amount of heat energy released is independent of the mode of combustion, but the temperature of the flame varies. The maximum temperature of about 2800 °C" So i guess there's no "phenomenon", it's just what is bizarre is... the flame itself starts off much cooler and then raises in temperature "as needed" I guess... It's strange. Makes you wonder why it wouldn't be the same temp "all the time"

[terrymorse]

@KyleCarrington The flame definitely heats up as its surroundings heat up. The hot gases are radiating heat away to the surroundings. When the surroundings heat up, less heat is lost from the flame, and the flame temperature goes up.

[amos033]

good work with the torch in air cup. now work on a heating "spider" but use the same technique.

Be careful

[frank0067]

why are you wasting people time ??

[whydidigetdeleted]

lrn2 thermodynamics

[valllhalla]

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[SilverTissues]

@ the dude commenting below me. That is more then enough to give u a hot shower. U're heater uses just more of these. I would like to see someone create self filling resevoir. Hho electrolyser hooked up to it, and then a shower heater or power generator on it. However I don't know at what speed Hho can be created. Real cool to experiment with. But I am to big of a smoker. So I'll keep it to wind and solar around my house.

[hto1971]

that heat you shown hear will only heat up to 5 feet away lmao

[a1mint]

By definition, any electric heater is always 100% efficient. It doesn't matter what you do, because 100% of the electricity used ends up in heat.

Any el cheapo Walmart space heater will put out exactly the same amount of heat as any complicated HHO based heater.

The HHO based heater is an unnecessarily complicated roundabout way of converting electric energy into heat.

There is not way in the world it could ever do it any better than *any* electric space heater.

[getsafe1212]

@a1mint lol I love your list of things you don't like, absolute poetry.

I agree, all psuedo science is ridiculous, and sadly there is no arguing with these people, even with clear evidence and peer reviewed work. It sure is fun to abuse them on youtube though. I hope i don't have to move to Europe

[a1mint]

@getsafe1212 Exactly. However, Europe's no sane place either. Homeopathy is rife there.

I've tried endlessly, relentlessly, with all my reasoning and rational thought, sometimes in respectful ways, sometimes ridiculing the crap out of things - with people that argue against me, I have never ever seen any of them ever admit anything. They refuse to acknowledge reasonable points made.

Evolution deniers, Ark of Noah proponents. No matter what, they defend it to the death. It's like they're notalive

[a1mint]

@astromaks The laws of nature state that you can not destroy nor create energy. You can only change its form.

So, every little bit of heat produced is because that amount of energy was spent in fuel.

What in the bloody hell is your point anyway?

[amos033]

@a1mint: His point is to demonstrate HHO gas produced from the energy

stored in H2O is very useful. Why buy Propane when Green can produce a

heater that will not only heat your home, cook your food but also produce hot

water for a bath. Be kind to others and they'll be kind to you. Becareful Green

[a1mint]

@amos033

You're talking about something else than car based on-demand on-board HHO devices to increase fuel economy which can not work.

Clearing up one thing first. It's not energy "stored in H2O". You have to spend energy to split 2(H2O) into 2H2 + O2 (aka HHO).

Realize how much energy is in petrol and propane and natural gas.

It's not easy to create a wind mill that can compete with that. Solar energy is even harder. But, it *can* be done. Denmark gets 1/4 of its electricity from wind...

[a1mint]

@amos033 Again, there isn't any energy "stored in water". It *TAKES* energy to split it into HHO gas. You get back LESS after burning it.

So, "HHO" will *NOT* "heat your home" efficiently at all !

[a1mint]

How does this work? My guess is by using an electric current from the outlet, and use electrolysis to separate water into H2+O, which when burned, produced heat for the house?

[getsafe1212]

@a1mint That would waste a bunch of energy, better to just use an electric heater. Anyone who mentions HHO is a crack

[a1mint]

@getsafe1212 I was trying to get the author of this video to explain himself, and then I was going to have a field day with this quack.

[getsafe1212]

@a1mint Lol sorry for ruining your plan. I can't believe how many people believe this crap (perpetual motion devices) and are willing to argue about it. Sad day for science

[a1mint]

@getsafe1212 Check out my profile. I'm pissed off at a whole bunch of things, most of which involving people that are delusional, quacks, liars, unfounded conspiracy theorists, etc.

I *hate* things like homeopathy, people that deny the laws of the nature, magnet motors, chemtrailers, 9/11 truthers, the list goes on and on.

Oh, I also have a beef with anything religious, which belongs in the delusional category.

[a1mint]

@astromaks What you just barfed up is 100% complete and utter nonsense!

Fact is, heat is energy. Every little bit of heat produced in ANY process is due to the energy spent! There is not "bonus" or "extra" energy. You can not create nor destroy energy. Those are the laws of nature, and no one has ever been able to violate those laws because that is that they are: laws of nature.

You're *VERY* green and *VERY* ignorant and have a great deal to learn.

[KyleCarrington]

@a1mint actually the second law of thermodynamics has already been broken, and is reported as such, in more than one distinct finding by top Physicists. Entropy as once thought is not always as it seems. The PN junction of certain substrate materials in thermocouple technology is an example. The Conservation of Mass and Energy is the Stand Tall. Other laws are there for meaningful purpose but proven inconsistent. Read up on it, it's quite fascinating. Welcome to the Future.

[a1mint]

@KyleCarrington No it has not! Show me a link to something credible to back up your claim. In meantime, you shall be deemed an in your face liar with his pants on fire.

Muddying down science to make room for fraudulent gadgets to make sales is not going to work.

[KyleCarrington]

@a1mint hey.. don't get excited, LOL your just a bit behind on your research. It's old news, almost ten years old. The 2nd law of thermodynamics only applies to large systems and one stage oscillations. In micro systems and 2 stage oscillations, it no longer applies... but you know what they've thought that for 100 years. You have to understand, laws of physics are trends, the only "LAW" that apparently is a holy grail is conservation of energy and motion. alturl d com / 2pssq - Catch up!

[a1mint]

@KyleCarrington Complete bullshit, all just talk. You can't break the laws of nature, period.

Using snazzy words and phrases doesn't give you any credibility whatsoever.

You pseudo science isn't washing at all.

[KyleCarrington]

@a1mint You need to understand what science is and what a "Law" is. Laws are not -proven- ok? They are trends that are repeated over and over and over and fail to be defied. You cannot "prove" a law, you can only demonstrate a law and find no way to demonstrate otherwise. They are called Laws because they help shape our engineering in nearly all cases. This does not, by any means refer to a collective idea that exceptions -cannot- exist - scientists know this.

[a1mint]

@KyleCarrington No, *YOU* need to know what science is, and what the laws of nature are.

Neither you, or any of your con artist colleagues, are going to break any of these laws, period.

HHO remains a scam.

[KyleCarrington]

@a1mint I made my backup. Don't look at me, look at the scientists who haven't been debunked. It's got nothing to do with me, you asked for proof I gave it to you, now your just outing because you haven't educated yourself in current science. Your all alone. Your knowledge is out of date. There's even an entire new branch of science based on exceptions to the rule, I gave you the name. Read up, or shut up.

[a1mint]

@KyleCarrington Nothing but lies. And absolutely nothing to show for, naturally.

None of you quacks every produce anything useful.

[KyleCarrington]

@a1mint Once again, read up. Don't let us "con artists" convince you or keep you in your mental entrapment. Merely follow science and you WILL LEARN. The very quantum makeup of water is being scrutinized RIGHT NOW silly man, go to the homepage of physicsworld . c o m and SEE FOR YOURSELF the research that is being done and I quote: "Reiter also believes that his group's research could have practical applications, such as improving the performance of fuel cells". GET WITH IT.

[a1mint]

@KyleCarrington The problem, you QUACK! *Actual* science would have taught you that perpetual motion and the creation of energy does not exist.

YOU get with it, you LYING SACK OF POO!

[KyleCarrington]

@a1mint once again, you have no scientific backing to what you say, so you lose. Back your words up with proof, I did. I'm supposed to believe you over a peer reviewed physicist. Wiki already has a page up on the defied law. Where's your proof? Where's your science. You don't have any. That's what I thought.

[a1mint]

@KyleCarrington I didn't lose no nothing you conniving lying sack of shit!

I go by what is scientific. You go on belief systems.

You're a complete con artist.

Where's you proof of anything. You don't have any. Exactly as expected.

Loser !

[KyleCarrington]

@KyleCarrington What I am talking about is such old news it has its own Wiki page pal! You gotta read up before you make claims. Search: Nonequilibrium thermodynamics