Ashden Award 2009 to Aprovecho Research Center and Shengzhou Stove Manufacturer

[Landotter1]

Built to exacting standards that can only be done in a factory..... BAAAAAAH People make good efficient stoves all the time. gimme a break....

[jmg1957]

well done.

[spiralcosmosart]

These stoves are awesome. They are good for picnics and camping trips in the worst cold weather of the Pacific Northwest for cooking, heating, boiling water for sanitation and survival. These stoves make propane and other petroleum stoves worthless and tending a traditional campfire a total waste of time.

[Probesoul]

You don't want to build a factory in one of those poor countries and teach them to make stoves and put many to work... Because that wouldn't keep them poor... all manufacturing must be in China while the rest of the world only consumes like a bunch of good serfs

[kisinzcemm]

@Probesoul its something to do with that clay Aprovecho said they tried to reproduce the clay but couldn't

[vegtervs]

I dont know what you guys are talking about, but on their website they sell them for around 40$ or less. thats 1/3 of the price you are talking about.

[3rdwatchman]

well rico522 it sounds like you should make your own stove, or maybe you should make them for $25 and you can bless the world with your investment.

[3rdwatchman]

I would love to see your stove. Maybe you could make 10,000 more for free so the rest of the world can enjoy one............... or make their own for free....share your secret with us.

[spiralcosmosart]

@rico522 You'r such a fucking liar.

[spiralcosmosart]

@rico522 look at stovetec's own website and do the math comparing their price and the price you are accusing before you post your cynicism. Is that specific enough or do you need someone to email you the full url and link? I don't know what kind of benefits and standard of living the Chinese workers are experiencing at that plant, but it's a damn life saving product for a lot of people and I think that kind of altruism is good karma.

[spiralcosmosart]

So you're saying better quality ones can be made than these Stovetec chinese ones with better brick and metal. You may be right, but retail $40 isn't bad if you figure the cost of living in the contingent United States with no access to a shop to build your own.

[ericrolph]

@rico522 These stoves cost $8 for third world customers. Get your facts straight.

[sk9utube]

Grover Rocket stove is an American company where they want $125 each. I wonder how these 2 models compare. Sad that importing these from China is probably cheaper and cost less rather than employing American labor.

[abaneyone]

Half the world's population can't afford $125 to pay for that stove. Regardless of how efficient this stove is, if people can't afford it, it benefits no one.

[sk9utube]

disparity and insanity of true altruistic basic needs. WTF is a wealthy nation worth when it can't even give it's citizen's something worth a shit to do for a decent standard of living?  Communism looks real neat right now.