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  • Rockefeller and Rothchild dislike this video

  • We are being turned "TRANSHUMAN", NeuroToxins in our BRAINS & we do not Realize it, Aspartame, NeoTame, NutriSweet etc its even in some Cereals also see fims at wwwFLUORIDEALERTorg

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  • @deadadelta Love You Mike God Bless You

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  • @deadadelta I think all of us should "Forward" this Video to all we Can

  • @deadadelta nice info.

  • @TheSwordsmon If that's the best invalidation you can do, then perhaps you would have cited a credible journal which can prove an alternate solution -- or even justify the present obfuscation of our currency.

    And maybe that's why the Democrats were elected in 1912 after promising not to create a central bank? And maybe the credibility of the journals you fail to cite is why we don't have inflation, deflation, maldisposition, or terminal multiplication of falsified debt?

  • @mikemontagne

    here here!

  • @TheSwordsmon So what you are really saying is that you are incapable of comprehending it yourself, nor dissecting it clearly for others. You state that you rely totally on some guy in a suit to TELL you what to believe. Why would anyone running a financial scam want to publish anything that would take profits away from them. Ok, act like a shill, ignore my concerns and call me a name.

  • Interest on currency is a scam ...a very old scam....

  • Mike, your work is astounding, my may the creator bless you and all that you reach and that reach you....

  • @chelonia1663

    Yes, exactly. Which means that all the Paul followers are on the wrong track -- Paul advocates higher rates of interest, which, as this video well proves, so long as we *can* succeed in maintaining a vital circulation... Paul's higher rates of interest would only have multiplied debt all the faster, into the present, terminal failure.

  • step one: eliminate usury

    step two: eliminate money

    Mankind must mature beyond money if he is to achieve anything of value.

    Great first step op hope critical mass wakes up pretty soon. The info I've been receiving the past 6 years has answered many of my childhood questions gone ignored for most of my adult life ... while hypnotised...

  • @Independent0bserver

    The problems we suffer aren't solved by eliminating money. They are solved by eradicating the problems which have been imposed upon money for the purpose of exploitation. "Money," once rectified, is no more and no less than immutable tokens of our production. Nothing can better serve us in just trade -- not even some future, universal honesty -- for immutable tokens of our production, used in trade, are merely reflections of that eventual honesty.

  • It`s shocking that few people has listened to this video, what a pity, at least almost 6 thousands has.

  • @Thesunalwaysshines1

    Ay, and yet plagiarists like Stephen Zarlenga, Ellen Hodgson Brown, Bill Stills, and Zeitgeist get much attention for telling you both wrong and second-hand. Because there are so many plagiarists, few people now understand a very important thing -- that mathematically perfected economy was here long before all the present eleventh hour pretenders; and that mathematically perfected economy provided all the answers, over 40 years ago.

    Thanks for watching.

  • @mikemontagne What did Stephan Zarlenga plagarize? I've been looking for information on his credibility and credentials. All I come across are his wiki article, and several of his articles. Do you know of any reputable economists' opinions of the man.

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  • @chelonia1663

    Well said.

    Terminal failure is engendered by this fact, which expressed exactly, is a consequence of the fact that as only principal is borrowed into circulation, a perpetual obligation to pay interest *and* principal out of a circulation comprised at most of some remaining principal exists... in which obligation, it is necessary to borrow back into circulation so much as all the principal *and interest* we pay out of the circulation... as an eventually terminal sum of debt.

  • @chelonia1663 Well, yes, the 5% will come out of future existing circulation, but that isn't the point at all... The point is that, in a mathematically perfected economy, the money supply can still grow... Therefore, it does not get rid of inflation, only credit...

    And also, what incentive is there to pay a loan back under this theory? Jail time? An automated system that forces you to pay it back? Or are there loans at all?

    Interest has an important roll in an economy...

  • @chelonia1663 It is not irreversable... The theory makes it look as if our current system requires that we keep spending at a certain level and borrow money to pay off debt...

    If we stop borrowing, cut spending, and allow tax revenues to go to surplus, nothing is keeping us from getting out of debt...

    Nothing forces us to borrow and spend at these levels... Therefore the model is flawed by making this assumption...

    Inflation is an expansion of money supply, not just credit...

  • This whole theory assumes that it is impossible to repay debt, and that inflation is created only through debt... It also assumes that someone will perpetually lend money who have no chance of paying it back...

    I do not approve of how our government is handling debt and spending, but I do understand that interest is there for a reason...

    What if the person doesn't pay back the loan? There's no incentive for him to pay it back on time... What if he dies before he pays the debt?

  • What are you talking about? Why would anyone lend money if they got no interest in return. 'Mathematically Perfected Economy', well if that isnt a lunatic concept if ever I heard it. "The government computer, which runs ÜBER-MATLAB, shall now state the economic decisions you will now comply with. COMPLY". Why the crazy bullshit?

  • bro this coulda at least been narrated instead of the same picture shown and forcing me to read it, if youre going to write an essay, then go blog it somewhere, but dont make a vid out of it, cause its not a vid.

  • Theoretically, what do you think would happen to the economy if everyone diligently saved up, did without the "glitter" for their major purchases, such as a home and automobile? What would happen if the young adults were educated in such a way to begin saving, live with their parents, prolong marriage / children to pay cash for their new home once they're financially able to be on their own? Do you think people can sacrifce that to avoid the high interest and plan ahead?

  • the bank masters like Rockafeller wont be happy with 'dangerous' ideas like this.

  • What a tangled web we weave, when we practice to deceive. The present economy has been a tangled web of deceit and the only way to fix it is to start over and untie the knots and make it straight again. Honesty is the best policy. I know this sounds cliche' but it's truth and we should always adhere to these sayings.

  • Were is the Math? I am three minutes into the video and no out line of the problem you say you are going to address and no math just empty words. You need to make your theory simple and understandable.

  • Currency (Current) the central banks are the controllers of the "Grid" so to speak.

    Wouldn't money conservation allow us a little more time to reposition ourselves to then move to your perfected economy blueprint and btw Nothing is Perfect!

  • I think it would be very important to understand the origination and timeline history of this Ultimate deception. I am very curious if Derivatives/CDS are secretely being put in place to replace the destroyed monetary system? Will derivatives allow a controlled demolition and slight of hand replacement of the monetary system? I would think then that those who control the derivatives game will remain in full control.

  • All of you are smarter than me. I do know the banks are the real crooks. Can't we all put our heads together to do something about this? Ever hear of the Peasant's Revolt? :)

  • I have watched your full series. It is a very interesting idea. You don't seem to take into account inflation OR growth into your model. Both of these are important in a usury system. I have seen many "Perfect" ideas that are only thought to be perfect because they did not take everything into account. Is there a reason you are not including inflation or growth?

  • That's right. What people need to understand is that under the present obfuscation of currency, we are only borrowing our own promissory notes into existence. We don't need banks to issue our currency; nor should we allow them to, for any rate of interest which must be re-borrowed to maintain a vital circulation ultimately terminates the pretended economy. So, great answer. I'm very pleased you understand. (THANKS.)

  • ABSOLUTELY. I believe it goes something like this...

    NO BANK has ever lent anyone ANY money. People create money themselves w/ their promise to pay. The bank simply steps in kind of like a middleman & launders the money into its possession. A bank NEVER lent me any money, I just created it MYSELF & the bank tricked me into believing they gave it to me.

    You really gotta step back and admire the monetary system's design. Then p1ss on the creators of such a system!

  • But banks wouldn't want to give people money and not make profit out of it. Interest=Profit

  • M3...all money in circulation is 15 trillion...but US total debt is 60 trillion...we are short of 45 trillion to pay off the debt....money that was NEVER printed...that 45 trillion is the interest on loans since 1913 when Federal Reseve was created..? Banksters never had the 45 trillion so we own them...NOTHING

  • how much is the nation as a whole currently being charged in interest yearly to the banks? i think we're about $60 trillion in debt - is it safe to assume the nation is being charged about $3 trillion yearly at a 5% interest rate? our current GDP is $13.78 trillion. so i'm estimating about 22% of that is going towards interest currently.

  • You've got a start on determining how much, but there are substantial further factors to consider. Clinton for instance claimed to have balanced the federal budget without increasing tax rates, without increased industrial or federal revenue, and without reducing federal expenditures. So his claim of course is impossible. Some estimates of the consequences of his mere accounting estimates, as of 2006 projected he created as much as over 100 trillion of "near term, unfunded federal liabilities."

  • These of course are debts. Moreover, many researchers conceive that substantial further federal (public) debts are not accounted for in "official" federal debt figures -- just like unemployment is vastly understated. On top of this, you have all private debt, which of course is many, many times the circulation. On top of all this yet, GDP is inflated as if production includes how much the largest corporations (such as insurance and banking corporations) are stealing from us.

  • So much are the figures skewed then, that it is impossible to rightly say what we are paying in interest as a true proportion of production (which determines our ultimate failure point). But when you take into account how much "the value" of indebted assets such as homes have been falsely inflated *by previous interest*, and that what we call interest on principal is actually interest upon interest... then you begin to recognize the degree of artificial trouble which has been created...

  • and which has (in the case of such inflated "value") in fact been cast as its opposite -- as a benefit. Nonetheless, your 22% figure has to be very low (excessively conservative). Why? Ever since Reagan took office for instance -- tripled the entire national (federal) debt of the entire previous history of our country -- tax rates have never been increased accordingly (only because this would have killed us long ago). But what that means is that while federal debt has gone up...

  • and interest costs have gone up accordingly... while of course it has not been reported that more of every tax "dollar" has been dedicated to interest, in fact it has. Many public governments in fact (town, county, etc...) are currently saddled with debts that they absolutely cannot afford to service. In other words, this fact demonstrates already that the costs of servicing just *public* debt exceed not only our ability to service debt, but our credit-worthiness to borrow further...

  • as is necessary, merely to maintain a vital circulation. If we don't maintain a vital circulation of course, the circulation dissipates to the banking system, with no viable way of returning it to circulation. In other words, the very fact that we are told we need the present bailouts... or that they are exercised as necessary measures... indicates that the costs of servicing debt *already* exceed the limits of our ability to service existent debt and borrow further as necessary to maintain...

  • a vital circulation. That means we're already in failure -- which is what the computer models I provided to the Reagan Administration projected almost 30 years ago. The demonstrations of this video are simply re-implementations of the same logic to demonstrate the principle that any purported economy subject to interest inevitably terminates itself by irreversibly multiplying artificial debt in proportion to remaining capacity to service debt. We're already there...

  • @mikemontagne now that’s a mouth full!!

    Wonder what would happen if we all had families approach our local high school principals demanding our kid are taught the TRUE History of the Federal Reserve, World Economics, and Geo Political Corruption, abolish and EXPOSE SECRET Society’s

    Let's EXPOSE The Gov Educational System for what it is, What Schools Are Becoming And Who Is Robert Wanek? watch?v=QXmJnaMXM9c&feature=re­lated

  • Unfortunately many Americans still put faith and their money into financial institutions and investment vehicles controlled by others who are driven by greed and apparently account to nobody. Individuals, grass roots organizations, political leaders who truly have the best for their families and America at heart will stay far away from 'interest' based finance.

  • What they're calling finance is not even finance. Nor is it the right way to finance. New industry requires increased circulation (as it is increased under mathematically perfected economy). Under usury, we suffer having to dedicate the same money to multiple debts; and to the multiplication of those debts. There's a huge difference.

  • Under a system that charges 'interest' there will always be suffering. The mathematically perfect economy mandates the elimination of 'interest'. Usury implies that there is such a thing as a legal level of interest. Review the history of usury laws of the states and we see how today credit card companies can charge 30% and higher! Mathematically perfected economy = total elimination of 'interest' anything less is hypocrisy.

  • My mistake on the retraction -- there seems to be a problem with the software nesting so many responses.

    The bailout is going to cost you not only what has been given away and will continue to be given away, but all the interest on it. As the video makes clear, there's not mathematic possibility of it succeeding, either, because the only possibility of just economy is in rectifying the system. Why you're not totally against that then, is quite an amazing thing.

  • ...his famous demonstration at the Temple of the Money Changers?

    Obviously, because it existed for the same reasons then, that it does now.

  • The concept of "making money just for having money" is not what "money" was intended for. Its supposed to be for trade or services. Even as a kid i knew that money was just a means to control people. The love of money is the root of all evil. Damn we are IN TROUBLE, cuz alomst everyone i know wants (or thinks they need) MORE MORE MORE. I rememeber being 8 or 9 and saying i hated money and wished it didnt exist. I never understood why it has such a hold over people. Its NOTHING.

  • You're right. But what we're calling "money" is not money -- it's the means to multiply our exploitation. Under mathematically perfected economy, money is what you want it to be -- purely a medium of exchange. Only such a money, an actual money, is no offense against you. So yes, you're right. That's seeing eye to eye.

  • One other thing. I see your user image features the text, "One nation under God." That's something for all of us to think about. I'm sure you don't suppose the answer to the Lord's Prayer is interest, which is inherently usurious (because, as this program shows, it can only multiply debt into such usurious sums of debt as to be terminal), and which violates even any intent that we prosper according to the fruits of our *doings*.

    Why, after all, was Christ killed just days after...

  • None of this is over your head. It's explained carefully, and correctly in the very necessary detail which any self ruling populace *must* understand. You don't even have to read it. You can listen, and listen carefully as the issue deserves.

    Or you can watch MTV or the mainstream "news" -- which will tell you too for instance that the housing crisis is your fault. Indeed it is; but not because you borrowed more than an unsustainable system would keep you from servicing.

  • There's a quote of Jim Eldon near the end of the last video segment. I suggest you return to that and read it 2 or 3 times. Here's the deal: the system which has been imposed upon you can only fail. History has already proven that once; the responsible process has never been rectified. All the other monetary reform authors are slowly centering on the solution presented here (from 30 years ago). There is no other solution. So you can understand it -- or suffer any alternative's end.

  • Hopefully nothing.

    You want to bail them out forever, to keep us on the brink of artificial disaster which cannot be averted but by rectifying the system of the fact interest can only multiply debt into terminal debt?

    And it's communism to stand up against that?

  • You don't actually believe the central banks which have been *imposed* upon the world usurped practically every government on the planet to issue your promise to pay at interest to you... for your benefit, do you?

  • Same kinds of things you have now... but actual instruments of representative government... which *actually* serve the people.

    Wake up.

  • Well, you said it: "makes any money."

    They don't produce *anything*; and in the end we lose *everything* to them *for the purported "money" (instrument of exploitation) which they "make"*.

    The program explains the answer to your question well. We the people instead deploy a common foundry to certify our credit-worthiness, to issue our promises to pay (which the money you are using now *is*), and to automate payment.

  • Let me quote Samuel Adams for you and anyone else who confuse freedom with communism, and defend usury by your accusation:

    "If you love [the promise of dispossessed] wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."

  • It's "communism" to resist that? What are you, an "Austrian Economist," who (always without qualification) merely asserts interest, advocates higher interest... not as a right, power, or privilege of *all* of us (which would cancel any ostensible service/benefit [of which there is none])?

  • You're telling us that we have to suffer failure and you are privileged to pass on all the federal and other debt you have accumulated to others, because it is right to have someone who produces nothing print our promises to pay, and charge us for that wee task by a process which is terminal to industry and dispossesses us of all we have produced?

  • "The end of democracy and defeat of the American Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of the lending institutions, and [their] monied incorporations."

    (Thomas Jefferson)

    You insist after watching this yet that we borrow our own promises to pay at interest from a mere glorified printing house -- even after being thoroughly demonstrated that interest can only multiply debt into terminal debt and utter monetary failure?

  • I suppose Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, James Madison, Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Jackson... were suggesting "communism" when they sought to *free us* from the ever escalating dispossession of our wealth from us which results in usurpation of any representative government? Is that the definition of communism in your dictionary? Was Jefferson a "communist" when he said...

  • banksters print and own...what we can print and own........but we are so stupid we let banksters do it............We the Debt Slaves.....slaves of out own ignorance on money nature

  • "There must be no lending at interest because it will be quite in order for the borrower to refuse absolutely to return both interest and principal."...PLATO

  • Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.

    John Locke, 1690

  • The end of democracy and defeat of the American Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of the lending institutions and [their] moneyed incorporations.

    Thomas Jefferson

  • the best video ever.. on a money reform

  • I watched it 3 times now. HAVE TO AGREE. WOW. EVERYBODY NEEDS TO WHAT THIS ALL THE WAY THRU. Downloaded it and all my friends are watching.

  • If all money printed in US is tax payers money,then banks have to pay interest to us for using our money.Why we the ownes of money pay interest to ..them.....????

  • Ron Paul is never going to live this solution down.

    I had a little trouble finding the play list. You have to view More From Mike Montagna, then choose to view all from the bottom of the list, and then when you get to that page, you have to select his play lists link. The play list is definitely the only way to view the whole video. Man, this is great. EVERYBODY HAS TO WATCH THE WHOLE THING.

  • 4 men on a island with no money.4 men borrow 1000 each from a new bank at 10% interest.How will the 4 men pay 4400 to the bank if all money in circulation on the island is ..4000.......????????

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  • This video program is best negotiated by viewing my MATHEMATICALLY PERFECTED ECONOMY play list.

    ENJOY, AND THANKS FOR WATCHING,

    mike

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