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  • 290+ RWHP seems high on a DE, what dyno did you use?

  • i love nissan cars. they all fast. and i was looking at this video because i need help on which car to get cause im planning on getting one or the other. any suggestions?

  • You should know that Intake manifolds/Headers pretty much give you up to 15-20 horses bolted on alone...with tuning about 30 at max

  • Those headers might have made the Z faster but man did it kill the deep VQ tone or what!! Sounds a bit ricey now

  • @EddieD08857 i think if he puts a catback exhaust then itll take away the raspy effect. For me im bout to install the STillen headers for 2.5, and i hear its alittla raspy too lol. Most people these days just think Hondas are ricers >.>

  • slow altima

    

  • The 350 still sounds stupid tho..

  • i hope those chrome rims are lightweight

  • @xedjflowx

    They aren't as heavy as you would think. 10lbs more each than the stock wheels. I have a set of lightweight 18s for when i go to the track

  • @importroller

    thats pretty cool. what brand are they. i dont really know much but i'd buy a wheels around 200-250 each w/o tires. i like performance and reliability. no $500 wheel + tire deals. and so to the question about how much did the 20's cost you

  • @xedjflowx what I paid was very much below MSRP. But ill put it to you this way. These rims are C-Squared C-1 rims. Brand new they would have ran over $2000 for the set without tires. I paid less than half that for rims and tires.

  • @importroller thats baller. good deal

  • Hahaha nice video i loe both cars so its a win

  • if u guys wan2 c a real altima look mine up zerolimit altima

  • considering what the altiima has done and the z has this isnt really a fair race and the z kept his car rolling form digs and the altima didnt..not really even especially fwd vs rwd

  • You guys guessing on the dyno numbers, or did both of you dyno?

  • Both have been dynoed,. The Altima's dyno runs are in my other vids.

  • My buddy has an 08 altima coupe 3.5 and i have an 04 350z and when we race i always pull away from him at a pretty good pace constantly thru the race.

  • Depending on the setup of either/both cars, the result can go in either direction.

  • Well my friend and i both have autos so its fair.

  • Thats mostly because he is haltered by his CVT tranny. your 5AT will be better. makes sense on the outcome

  • true

  • still nice video BOTH sick cars NISSAN FTW!!! And they are both running the same great engine anyways ;-) VQ POWER BABY!

  • your care isn't turbo chraged?

  • No, its N/A

  • z is gunna be faster obviously. its the same block the z just has different headers and rwd the weight is basically the same. i have an 05 altima 3.5 with the header swap my buddys 05 350Z hardly pulls on me

  • I raced my buddy's Z the other day in my altima and he couldn't get by me it was dead even! but i do have an intake, exhaust and headers.....all he has is an intake.....but my car wieghs alot more than that little thing

  • Wow the headers are well worth it, but you have 1 passenger(camera man) on your car, does the 350z have any? and how bad you lose to the 350z HR engine 07+ model?

  • I didn't have a passenger when I ran the Z. My race with the S2K, the driver of the Z was my passenger taping. the HRZ and my Altima are very similar stock to stock. But they have intake and exhaust timing controls, while the Altima only has Intake. If I was to run a HR Z and it was stock vs stock, or mod for mod, the Z should put at least a car length on me. Maybe more depending on the driver.

  • Dude I read all your comments, I have a HR 350z and i've raced a couple Maximas and Altimas they are pretty impressive, i mean the newer models for those guys are also using VQ engines but dude honestly the 2003-2005 DE model 350z are OLD news. The HR 350z and the 370z would pretty much rape a maxima or an altima. I mean max and altimas are not build for racing/speed like the Z obviously if you put mods you might land some where but still competing against a Z is kind of useless nothing to gain

  • No doubt that a HRZ would win. But I wouldnt say rape. I've ran with some of my friends who have HRZ-Gs and i do lose,, but not by as much as most Z members like to assume the outcome would be. I basically have a detuned HR motor with only Intake cam profile for the HR. the exhaust is still a basic DE design.

  • you're saying you guys are pretty much dead even before he got a HEADERS install or before he got a TUNE and HEADERS install? because from a pretty much even race that is without headers, and now with headers, and he beating you by that much, that is crazy, he must have some crazy gain on the headers. Altima is faster than i thought though. Good race

  • The day i met him and had a run, he had the headers in a box in the back, and he had already gotten tuned. But seems that after the header install, his tune really kicked in. The Only Z's that have beaten my altima either have prettty much all the bolt ons, or some type of F.I. a Non rev-up 350Z will not beat me without have more mods than me.

  • All this anger! We wanted to race each other after he got his header installed, cause last time we ran and he didnt have the header, we were pretty much dead even

  • I mean what did you expect. He has a handful more mods than you do and got his car tuned to utilize them all. Youre car is basically stock. Oh and for the retards that say the 350Z is "Half the weight" of the altima... do some fuckin research.

    2007 Manual Altima 3.5 SE: 3294lbs

    2004 Manual 350Z: 3217lbs

    Thats a difference of fuckin 77lbs. So if you have a fat ass driver or even a full tank of gas in the Z, both cars could technically weigh the same amount.

  • 1/2 the weight of a 3,294 pound altima would be 1,647 pounds LOL... That's a pretty light 350Z. It must be made of magnesium, & titanium ;) Some people crack me up. =)

  • VQs in sync at 1:01

  • @vipeme1 Beautiful.

  • nice video.5star.thanks!!!

  • havent even watched this vid yet, but Plen Spac adds atleast 10hp, Exhaust atleast another 10, racing headers, AND he changed his timing with ECU, I have an alti, but it stands no chance

  • dude no wonder you lost that Z is like half your weight and it has a racing exhaust and an aftermarket header thats over 20 extra horses right there

  • The Z isn't half the weight. The z is maybe 200lbs less. But i never claimed I was gonna beat him. I beat some Z's and lose to others. with 50 more hp to the wheels than me, i hope to god i wouldn't be able to beat him.

  • No shame in losing to your big bro 350, although the Z didn't sound too good.

  • lol the altima sounded hot

  • ya sho imbezil segui haciendo los cambios como puta pss! y lo q si t va a hacer sentir mal va a sr cuando me coga a tu vieja.

  • Hold on, let me get my vato to english translator.....Oh forget it, I'll take it you just said you admit you're an idiot and just run with it

  • It was a joke asshole, she is dead!

  • Is that suppose to make me feel bad? maybe you should stop trying to use your grandma as a butt of your jokes...especially if she really is dead!

  • dude you shift like mi grandma

  • your grandma drives a stick....Now thats Pimp!

  • thats true it weighs more it doesnt matter still one of the best engines in the world us nissan guys need to stick together

  • it depends on what altima your talking about the 4th gen altima has 270 hp the 7th gen max has 290 hp but that still doesnt matter max is a legend tho the altima got its engine from the max but altimas are ok

  • and the the maxima weighs more, the 7th gen only has CVT as an option, and I've ran a new maxima, the 20 extra HP doesnt mean much. I still stay ahead by a nose

  • no way u beat a z wit the altima i aint buying that crap if u had a maxima that did that then i would believe u stupid do ur research

  • The Altimas are faster than the Maximas. You need to do your research. Im im talking about mod to mod, or stock to stock.

  • the z would win hands down no matter if he had 20s or not its a fact and why are u tryin to race a z knowing u cant stand a chance stupid

  • The ignorance of some people still amaze me! The Z driver is a friend of mine, first time we ran each other, he lost when it was from a roll. SO we met up later to do a few from a dig, and he took me off the line. and trust me, my rims slow my car down A LOT!!!

  • dude i see Z's get smoked by altis all the time i have an alti and barely lost to a Z the other day my friend has an 08 2.5 and threw in a turbo he smokes Z's off the line

  • 20" chrome rims = heavy as fuck plus needs more power to turn 1 rotation = horrible for performance

    Altima's should keep up with Z's especially from a roll

  • 20" wheels are killing your power. BIGTIME

  • what type of header is on the z

  • I think its Crawford

  • Take off those heavy ass wheels and you'll do better next time.

  • hey how is ur camera held up like that?!

  • Held in place by the passenger seat headrest

  • what u do just smash the camera inbetween the head peice?

  • Oh, those dubs are probably slowing you down as well. I'm 99.8 percent sure of it.

  • I know they are, but They still look good. This car is too big for smaller wheels when daily driven.

  • Why'd you even try? You should line up with a Ferrari next and see if your luck changes. Ok, seriously.. You were probably thinking they both have the same motor. How different can the two cars be, right? ALOT different. The Z is tuned completely different from the rest of Nissan's line up that uses their oh so popular 3.5 V6. For starters its rear-wheel driven but the gear ratio in the 350Z is what allows it to move quicker than the Maximas and Altimas do. Try beating up on Camrys and Accords..

  • You think you are telling me something new? I dont race cars I know I will beat. Whats the point? His mods vs mine...I sure hope he would win. I also have a G35 coupe, so I have the best of both VQ worlds

  • that z is pretty quick i have an08 altima 3.5se sedan nismo exhaust, injen WAI, lowered and sittin on some enkei rsvs ran a 13.87 at the track and it would prolly still take me

  • That Z is a beast! The 3.5 SE is a fast car, but damn, that Z is a kick in the nuts!

  • uhh. when did 13 sec cars become a beast...?

    but do remember this the altima's are mid low 14 sec cars. 03-05 350z with good drivers on average again with good driver 13.7ish 13.6 is the fastest ive ever seen or heard of. not to mention it was as Atco. the newer Z's are more steady mid 13's

  • that Z is insane. it should race an M3 or a 335i.

  • he had an accident a few months back (not racing anyone, juts bad dip in the road) and thr front end was badly damaged. So after it all got fixed, he doesnt really drive too fast anymore

  • I'm pretty comfertable with it again, been racing here and there. Ive raced my buddies 335i many times, before the accident, and after I got my headers on there were pretty even, it really depends on the launch. He seems to inch on my in 2nd, but then I inch it back in 3rd, wierd. hes completly stock no chip. recently Ive demolished a couple Mustang GTs, and got beat by my buddies SRt-4, who has a bunch of mods(exhaust, intake, ported TB, wastegate tune)

  • dude, his shit is hooked up, that aint even fair!

  • at least hes man enough to admit getting owned! i still like both cars

  • oh yea i know that if you race a stock 03-05 350z, i put money on it you will take them, no doubpt, but this z in this video realy pulles hard even though its meant to do wat it does b ut it still cant pull that hard on an altima because thery arent that much diffrent, but wow that z is crazy

  • dude i know altimas arent bad their fast, but z was made for it did to you, yes he has more mods, evan if you had the same mods, he would still beat you because he is lighter and more aerodynamic, but everybody has them, in your case no one expects you to be as fast and boom there yougo, just 1 question wat do you and your freind get on a 1/4 mile

  • Never taken this altima to the track. But im guessing mid-low 14s if I drive it properly. and yes, the Z is a sports car, and designed for this where the altima isnt. But one thing many dont realize, is if you have a manual trans altima, the tranny (even though FWD vs RWD) share many key parts. Now I know I wont beat a newer Z, but an 03-05 Z isnt much of a challenge

  • hahaha all the Z's mods made it faster where all the altima's mods made it slower. intakes lose torque which is important for drag racing so another minus for the altima.

  • I prefer top end races. thats where my car shines. My G35C is great for races from a dig

  • top end races are fun too. but for the 99% of the time i'm not redlining 3rd and 4th, i'd rather have the torque of the stock intakes over aftermarket in my Z :). haven't raced a g35 yet although my brother has an 03 g35c auto. I don't think he'll stand a chance against my 6spd 07.

  • he wont. my G cant hang against my altima unless its in a turn or curve, straight line, the altima is faster

  • just so yall know maxima will never NEVER beat a z, any z, second yes with the same mods, the "07" z might evan beat an older z06 cus i used to sell nissans and the diffrence of the 07, is huge,

  • what are you talking about a maxima? I've beaten Zs and Gs with my altima, just not my friend's car. He has more power and mods than me period, including ECU tuning

  • The Altima did go down fighting though, good run.

  • 1. same engine, but the z is tuned as a sports car.

    2. RWD vs. FWD

    3. 4 door vs. 2 door

    4. let the z be stock and you'll have a chance OR call big brother out...maxima or get Altima SE-R rated at 270hp

  • FWD vs RWD isnt the key factor, the TQ of his car over mine is what really got me. The amount of doors dont mean much. Im faster than a Maxima and the SE-R that was rated at 260hp by the old SAE standards

  • The Alti got SPANKED!!! Good runs guys...

  • That Z was pulling like a mofo. The Altima is not exactly a slow car either. I wonder how an 07' Z with similar mods would pull. I see many running 13.5-13.6 stock.

  • An 07 would have no need for half of the mods I have, cause there already done for you right off the lot. A plenum spacer/intake manifold isnt needed, cause its gots the new dual throttle body design. Also more volume in the plenum(see the hood raise). Headers are already perfected as well. Intakes have yet to prove it can even give 2hp. The air flow is already that good, cause of the dual intakes. Exhaust and HFCs together give about 5-8hp more on an 07 though

  • u should get a maxima baby 02 or 03 tho trust youll spank a 350z or tie or may b he should only beat you by a car maxima are fucken FAST!!! hehe i beaten 350z before with my 02 max hehe altimas were never ment 4 racing homie lol maxima se are ment for racing!!! get 1 dude!!! trust XD

  • I almost bought a 5.5gen Max, but this altima is faster than the Max. sorry to tell ya. this Z had many mods compared to my WAI only

  • but ya got to admit, its one crazy intake! 12whp from an intake!

  • @akarumm

    u must be a dumb fuck the max or alti wasnt for racing lol but the alt is faster i had both cars my 4th gen max would kill both lol was doing 14.6 stock and with mods + 50 shot i was doing 13.5 but i sold the 4th and 5.5 gen i only have a 3rd gen altima and a 13sec 850t5-r wagon

  • Very nice vid, very nice Z!

  • Yeah that Z would spank you anyday until the 07's get more aftermarket, put on headers and a good exhaust and you'll probably see a more even race with a slight advantage towards the Z on a start.

  • nice vid

  • I'm the owner of the 350z. Just to clarify, I dont have 290hp+ in comparision to his 245, which was measured on a dynojet. My 291whp was measured on a dynapack, this would be about 274 on a dynojet. So its 274whp for the Z and 245whp for the Altima.

    The headers gave me 10hp and 20tq in the lowend and 14tq at peak. The torque is what I really benifited from and why I pull so hard off the line.

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