so "green", "bio", "eco", etc, these jargon has been heavily misused by many capitalists? some kind of hypocrisy? for them, at the end it's all about the money.
Canaan1967's, advice regarding existing products is sound, but it makes no sense to declare that AGW "doesn't exist" and then implore people to stop buying things. The very manufacturing of those "things" is an anthropogenic activity, and there's an overwhelming amount of scientific evidence indicating that this activity is having an impact on our global climate by way of greenhouse gas emissions. Let's act sensibly, yes, but let's not also be naive.
This video brought up a lot of points you never actually hear people talk about - for example, we always pay attention to recycling but forget the actual phrase, "reduce reuse recycle". It really should be treated as a cycle. You should reduce your consumption and buy less, or reuse whatever you already have. Recycling really should be the last step, not the first one.
It's unfortunate that the only way the green movement can actually have some appeal is if it appeals to CONSUMERS. How sad is that? It's even sadder that we need something as monumental as a recession to remind us that a consumerist economy/society is not only painful on our wallets but also for the planet.
I also thought it was cheesy and wrong-headed until I realized their just mocking the promotion of "green consumerism". Funny. Also, don't buy a hybrid, wait till there's a oil-free car. Until then, Hypermilers get 55-100 mpg's with regular cars.
I thought this seemed a little cheesy at first! XD So right, though. Instead of buying those organic cotton jeans from Egypt, you can buy used jeans from your local thrift store.
this video was entertaining, but i am sad to point out that somethings in this video are sort of incorrect.
for one, you wouldnt want to buy produce from across the world. that defeats the purpose! so much fossil fuel is used to do that when you can easily buy organic local prouce from a farmer's market. also, hybrids aren't so crazily eco-friendly enough to buy 7 hybrids. hybrids are made with very poisionous materials!
THANKS THE FIRST VIDEO ON HERE I AGREE WITH : i live a life of little and love it . i am typeing this on a 1999 g3 apple and will have it till it is dead . and thats just the way i live . so cool to see someone who gets it .
So while Americans change their light bulbs and shop green, cut down on consuming, because they lost their jobs, the rest of the world like India, China, and Abu Dhabi are creating their own consumer culture. Hey, I got an idea. Let's start a war in China, and enforce our green ideas on the people....
We need to realize that the whole is greater than the sum of it's parts. It is extremely hard to if not impossible to avoid robbing Peter to pay Paul when we attempt to solve social problems. Unfortunately we are a selfish and reactionary species.
even our most altruistic desires are rooted in self centered, selfish pride.
our culture is rooted in self-serving behavior, brian, but other cultures aren't. so it's not a problem of humanity, but rather a problem of industrial civlization. humans are, at heart, cooperative and egalitarian beings who live in harmony with the earth--that's what we did for 99% of our existence, and many indigenous people still do live that way.
Interesting points. Although just as there are cooperative egalitarian beings in living in industrialized society there are also many brutal indigenous people and traditions. In my humble opinion, human beings have an innate propensity for good and evil. Similarly, all social systems be they industrial or indigenous have good and bad elements within them.
if you're interested in this topic, brian, try jerry mander's "in the absence of the sacred" or derrick jensen, or cultural anthropologists of the 20th century. of course there is variation among individuals, but there are distinct differences between the way industrial civilization and indigenous cultures are organized at their core. in our culture the 'bad guys' are actually doing exactly what they have been trained to do. indigenous cultures are sustainable. industrial civilization isn't.
In fact Toyota Prius as well as all current Hybrid cars are not eco friendly at all. The batteries they use are much more toxic than gazoline and they need to be replaced ebery 5-6 years.
I rather be thrifty and reduce all purchases to a minimum of food and bare bones power... it is still possible to do that in some part of my country. So that means, I don't want to buy even the so-called green merchandise
Thanks for this video. I hope it gets through to some people, and isn't just an amusing satire for those of us who already understand this reality. I highly recommend Derrick Jensen's book "Endgame: The Problem of Civilization" for anyone who wants to further explore this reality and also be faced with the realistic solutions to this major problem we are facing.
i love it! its consumerism and capitalism that are the real problem for the environment. Some people go as far to say civilization in general is at fault but thats a little extreme. If you want to save the environment throw out the computer, ride your bike and buy local foods or better yet grow gardens to supplement your diet. i cant get rid of the computer though :(
"Get Rid" of the computer? Where does the computer go when once you've "rid" of it? Instead use your computer to create independent media on the internet, change it into something positive. Also would have to disagree about civilization being to extreme. Civilization is always based on widespread violence and destruction of environment to sustain. Which is unsustainable.
wait, so civilization is the source of all problems but i should keep my computer? I'm pretty much agreeing with you. I'm not going to get rid off it anyway, and I'm aware of "e-waste".
Yes, I know it's hypocritical. But the truth is you CAN use the master's tools to bring down the master's house. That's what I meant by using it for indy media. Use it to get out the message. Use it as a tool against itself. Like this video. We can all run to the woods and let civilization kill the planet, or we can stay and fight. Use your means for the proper Ends...
I wouldn't call it 'Prius bashing'. It's simply pointing out that if you think you're saving the planet by buying a new car - any new car - then you're sorely mistaken. Much better to buy a second-hand one with decent fuel efficiency. Actually much better to get rid of the car and buy a second-hand bicycle instead...
of course it is not "bad" to buy a second-hand prius, that is preferable to buying a second hand hummer. And of course it's preferable we didn't drive at all, but as long as the car culture exists, we seemed to be doomed into needing one(some of us). So instead of putting your hard earned towards helping the continuation of planetary destruction, reuse.
take that "the inconvenient truth". the solution is not to choose "green" (fuel efficient cars, renewable sources), but a radical change in lifestyle
i get the point that the best thing to do is "use less". but i think using less isn't radical enough to make a difference. we need an enormous change in society. someone enlighten me on this one...
let's not stop using less. but i still don't think that's enough
you're right on that. I isn't enough at this point to just use less, as far as I can tell(ever ready limits to growth?) Its very possible that we may be past the point of no return. Though some argue that we have another 10 years. lookup global dimming, on google video(BBC doc)(just an example)
I agree PJAXY, it's not enough. If you want some enlightenment in that field, I highly recommend "Endgame: The Problem of Civilization" by Derrick Jensen. He's the only practical and most importantly from-the-heart-honest author I've read.
Enjoyed it! Brings attention to the next big wave of media manipulation - the "green" trend.
I shared this video with all my contacts in hope that it will draw their attention to clever greenwashing techniques and deter them from buying more stuff to save the planet.
It's interesting how both extremes of the spectrum are just as bad -- the oil-dependent consumerism and the blind do-good mentality of greenwashers. Corporations have definitely manipulated the latter into the latest trend while still allowing people to keep their consumer mentality and that needs to change if the planet (and all its inhabitants) are going to be helped. Great video.
Consuming,abusing less has always been the key.But then again...this abusive capitalist society will fear the danger of a economic crash.Pretty much like every practice we have, from religion to pleasures,doing it blindly will make things worts.Moderation Is The Key To Life...ancient Greek philosopher's always said it.Now our moderation might be someone else's exaggeration,we absolutely must take that in consideration.
I thought it was great, and it gave me some good humor-therapy. Some of the greenwashing out there makes me so mad. I do think the film gives a message: don't just consume greener; consume less! A very important message that just isn't getting out enough, even to those trying to do the right thing.
It is the cultural idealogy of consumerism that needs to change, if the Green movement is to be more significant than as simply the latest catchphrase.
no actually it is a great video, because it draws attention to the growing problem of greenwashing, whereby individuals tout themselves as green while still adhering to consumer mentality ideals and in reality still adding to the problem, and to our greater detriment, businesses like Pepsi-Cola and Waste Management can use the green movement as a marketing tool, while continuing to engage in harmful and destructive business practices.
less than 20 seconds of this video actually discusses anything solution related. The rest is just a sarcastic barrage against everything from biofuels to hybrid cars. This isn't great content - it just helps apathetic people to continue believing that ignoring the whole thing is okay. Too bad the people who made this movie couldn't use their considerable talent to actually promote some useful action instead.
I love your videos.
mainejerry 10 months ago
so "green", "bio", "eco", etc, these jargon has been heavily misused by many capitalists? some kind of hypocrisy? for them, at the end it's all about the money.
goodgoodgoodful 1 year ago
LMAO!! Great vid! xD
qualqui 1 year ago
wow, I LOL'd so hard. sad but true. yet this humorous presentation is very effective at showing the ridiculousness of it all.
unit023 1 year ago
Saving the planet has nothing to do with anthropogenic global warming. AGW does not exist. Natural Climate change does.
Pollution, toxins, sustainability, wildlife and the "Gaia Prinicple" are much more important than the feel goodery of "Global Warming."
canaan1967 2 years ago
Canaan1967's, advice regarding existing products is sound, but it makes no sense to declare that AGW "doesn't exist" and then implore people to stop buying things. The very manufacturing of those "things" is an anthropogenic activity, and there's an overwhelming amount of scientific evidence indicating that this activity is having an impact on our global climate by way of greenhouse gas emissions. Let's act sensibly, yes, but let's not also be naive.
heavydinsc 2 years ago
@heavydinsc
More skeptical, astutue and informed than naive.
canaan1967 2 years ago
@heavydinsc
There are other reasons to stop buying things unless you really need them and they have nothing to do with AGW. Just search "materials economy".
canaan1967 2 years ago
The most renewable sustainable products are the one's you already have and should hold onto as long as you live if possible
canaan1967 2 years ago
Stop buying things. Wait until they fall apart before you replace them.
canaan1967 2 years ago
Love your vids, man!
MeltnButta 2 years ago
watch story of stuff... it's much more helpful and has a better message.
sockosockosocko 2 years ago
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therebelwaltz 2 years ago 4
how BIG stupid we are most of us!!!! why we can't think ?!! consumerism, we are sick sick SICK!!!!
ilikeyouallot 2 years ago
This video brought up a lot of points you never actually hear people talk about - for example, we always pay attention to recycling but forget the actual phrase, "reduce reuse recycle". It really should be treated as a cycle. You should reduce your consumption and buy less, or reuse whatever you already have. Recycling really should be the last step, not the first one.
tinyshutterbug 3 years ago 5
smart person, i hope you continue to share you opinion to everyone you know.
marqujud 3 years ago
It's unfortunate that the only way the green movement can actually have some appeal is if it appeals to CONSUMERS. How sad is that? It's even sadder that we need something as monumental as a recession to remind us that a consumerist economy/society is not only painful on our wallets but also for the planet.
tinyshutterbug 3 years ago 3
Wow, her sarcasm was awesome, I didn't catch it right away.....great video!
UnderseaCaveman 3 years ago
the Li Hing Mui was a dead give away being raised in Hawaii. Shop Goodwill . )
jojo808 2 years ago
heheh.....yeah, live on Oahu (20yrs)....but, good catch....
Bottom line, we need human population to decrease, hopefully by attrition rather by "lay-off" :)
UnderseaCaveman 2 years ago
Recently rewatched this. Thanks for the parody and illuminating another layer of greenwash Pair this with "The Story of Stuff".
polidocproductions 3 years ago
globalization is not the answer.
WMEC38 3 years ago 3
Local sustainable agriculture!
WMEC38 3 years ago 2
what next, maybe vote our way to sustainability?
mikezephyr 3 years ago
lol "...we made sure it was green, all ten thousand sq ft of it."
ZeChief 3 years ago 3
Excelent
ozjthomas 3 years ago
I also thought it was cheesy and wrong-headed until I realized their just mocking the promotion of "green consumerism". Funny. Also, don't buy a hybrid, wait till there's a oil-free car. Until then, Hypermilers get 55-100 mpg's with regular cars.
indigetal 3 years ago
I thought this seemed a little cheesy at first! XD So right, though. Instead of buying those organic cotton jeans from Egypt, you can buy used jeans from your local thrift store.
rosey4exclaim 3 years ago 2
Right on.
RANVideo 3 years ago
That's why I am not rushing out to buy a hybrid.
You can conserve and be ecowise in more than one way.
I bristle when I'm told how I must be ecowise.
People can figure it out for themselves & they are more likely to stick to it.
kmmrky 3 years ago 2
this video was entertaining, but i am sad to point out that somethings in this video are sort of incorrect.
for one, you wouldnt want to buy produce from across the world. that defeats the purpose! so much fossil fuel is used to do that when you can easily buy organic local prouce from a farmer's market. also, hybrids aren't so crazily eco-friendly enough to buy 7 hybrids. hybrids are made with very poisionous materials!
greentreehuggaa 3 years ago
lol... this video is supposed to be sarcastic and ironic. It's trying to point out the major flaws of the "green consumerism" movement.
tribalspacemonkey 3 years ago 7
if youre from Hawaii , Her name Li Hing Mui is a dead-giveaway for the funny sarcasm ahead. =)
NWforager 9 months ago
It's satire silly!
Kendalyn1 3 years ago
It's satire. What you just said is what they are trying to prove in a sarcastic way. It's pointing out the flaws with the green movement.
Zsquares 3 years ago 2
shop your way to freedom!
raeh 3 years ago
THANKS THE FIRST VIDEO ON HERE I AGREE WITH : i live a life of little and love it . i am typeing this on a 1999 g3 apple and will have it till it is dead . and thats just the way i live . so cool to see someone who gets it .
OUTLAWBIKERAZ 3 years ago 2
This is so fucking creepy. I love it (in a disgusted sort of way).
parkingst0nes 3 years ago
So while Americans change their light bulbs and shop green, cut down on consuming, because they lost their jobs, the rest of the world like India, China, and Abu Dhabi are creating their own consumer culture. Hey, I got an idea. Let's start a war in China, and enforce our green ideas on the people....
angiebdetroit 3 years ago
this is great!!
FinleyFS 3 years ago
This is hilarious!
urbanscout 4 years ago
We need to realize that the whole is greater than the sum of it's parts. It is extremely hard to if not impossible to avoid robbing Peter to pay Paul when we attempt to solve social problems. Unfortunately we are a selfish and reactionary species.
even our most altruistic desires are rooted in self centered, selfish pride.
brian8z77 4 years ago
our culture is rooted in self-serving behavior, brian, but other cultures aren't. so it's not a problem of humanity, but rather a problem of industrial civlization. humans are, at heart, cooperative and egalitarian beings who live in harmony with the earth--that's what we did for 99% of our existence, and many indigenous people still do live that way.
pennilesscripple 4 years ago
Interesting points. Although just as there are cooperative egalitarian beings in living in industrialized society there are also many brutal indigenous people and traditions. In my humble opinion, human beings have an innate propensity for good and evil. Similarly, all social systems be they industrial or indigenous have good and bad elements within them.
brian8z77 4 years ago
if you're interested in this topic, brian, try jerry mander's "in the absence of the sacred" or derrick jensen, or cultural anthropologists of the 20th century. of course there is variation among individuals, but there are distinct differences between the way industrial civilization and indigenous cultures are organized at their core. in our culture the 'bad guys' are actually doing exactly what they have been trained to do. indigenous cultures are sustainable. industrial civilization isn't.
pennilesscripple 4 years ago
Great comment!! American need to rethink their ethnocentric approach to solving the world's problems.
angiebdetroit 3 years ago
Agreed.
Zsquares 3 years ago 2
In fact Toyota Prius as well as all current Hybrid cars are not eco friendly at all. The batteries they use are much more toxic than gazoline and they need to be replaced ebery 5-6 years.
newage2000 4 years ago
I rather be thrifty and reduce all purchases to a minimum of food and bare bones power... it is still possible to do that in some part of my country. So that means, I don't want to buy even the so-called green merchandise
progay 4 years ago
Great production! It kills me that it's so easy for corporations to turn our good intentions into profits, behind a green smile.
gtsvideodotcom 4 years ago
Thanks for this video. I hope it gets through to some people, and isn't just an amusing satire for those of us who already understand this reality. I highly recommend Derrick Jensen's book "Endgame: The Problem of Civilization" for anyone who wants to further explore this reality and also be faced with the realistic solutions to this major problem we are facing.
TylerDurdenInc 4 years ago 2
funny and wise
nimrodhalpern 4 years ago
i love it! its consumerism and capitalism that are the real problem for the environment. Some people go as far to say civilization in general is at fault but thats a little extreme. If you want to save the environment throw out the computer, ride your bike and buy local foods or better yet grow gardens to supplement your diet. i cant get rid of the computer though :(
itsacorporatething 4 years ago
"Get Rid" of the computer? Where does the computer go when once you've "rid" of it? Instead use your computer to create independent media on the internet, change it into something positive. Also would have to disagree about civilization being to extreme. Civilization is always based on widespread violence and destruction of environment to sustain. Which is unsustainable.
TylerDurdenInc 4 years ago
wait, so civilization is the source of all problems but i should keep my computer? I'm pretty much agreeing with you. I'm not going to get rid off it anyway, and I'm aware of "e-waste".
itsacorporatething 4 years ago
Yes, I know it's hypocritical. But the truth is you CAN use the master's tools to bring down the master's house. That's what I meant by using it for indy media. Use it to get out the message. Use it as a tool against itself. Like this video. We can all run to the woods and let civilization kill the planet, or we can stay and fight. Use your means for the proper Ends...
TylerDurdenInc 4 years ago 2
I wouldn't call it 'Prius bashing'. It's simply pointing out that if you think you're saving the planet by buying a new car - any new car - then you're sorely mistaken. Much better to buy a second-hand one with decent fuel efficiency. Actually much better to get rid of the car and buy a second-hand bicycle instead...
Halitosis235 4 years ago 2
i have a good question. would you rather toyota had not put any effort on making hybrid drive and whatnot?
pjaxy 4 years ago
and i don't agree 100% on the prius bashing. i agree that the best option is to buy a second-hand car. is it bad to buy a second hand prius?
pjaxy 4 years ago
of course it is not "bad" to buy a second-hand prius, that is preferable to buying a second hand hummer. And of course it's preferable we didn't drive at all, but as long as the car culture exists, we seemed to be doomed into needing one(some of us). So instead of putting your hard earned towards helping the continuation of planetary destruction, reuse.
TylerDurdenInc 4 years ago
take that "the inconvenient truth". the solution is not to choose "green" (fuel efficient cars, renewable sources), but a radical change in lifestyle
i get the point that the best thing to do is "use less". but i think using less isn't radical enough to make a difference. we need an enormous change in society. someone enlighten me on this one...
let's not stop using less. but i still don't think that's enough
pjaxy 4 years ago
you're right on that. I isn't enough at this point to just use less, as far as I can tell(ever ready limits to growth?) Its very possible that we may be past the point of no return. Though some argue that we have another 10 years. lookup global dimming, on google video(BBC doc)(just an example)
turquoisenet86 4 years ago
I agree PJAXY, it's not enough. If you want some enlightenment in that field, I highly recommend "Endgame: The Problem of Civilization" by Derrick Jensen. He's the only practical and most importantly from-the-heart-honest author I've read.
TylerDurdenInc 4 years ago
Enjoyed it! Brings attention to the next big wave of media manipulation - the "green" trend.
I shared this video with all my contacts in hope that it will draw their attention to clever greenwashing techniques and deter them from buying more stuff to save the planet.
wildewestern 4 years ago
It's interesting how both extremes of the spectrum are just as bad -- the oil-dependent consumerism and the blind do-good mentality of greenwashers. Corporations have definitely manipulated the latter into the latest trend while still allowing people to keep their consumer mentality and that needs to change if the planet (and all its inhabitants) are going to be helped. Great video.
lolita24601 4 years ago 3
Consuming,abusing less has always been the key.But then again...this abusive capitalist society will fear the danger of a economic crash.Pretty much like every practice we have, from religion to pleasures,doing it blindly will make things worts.Moderation Is The Key To Life...ancient Greek philosopher's always said it.Now our moderation might be someone else's exaggeration,we absolutely must take that in consideration.
EyFmS 4 years ago
For-profit Global Corporations stop at nothing to increase their ever insatiable appetites for more money and market share.
Green is the next target for marketers to spin us into consumption, waste and debt.
Mind what green we spend on "Green" and don't be green, be informed. The Prius is a great example, but it is only one. We're being spun and spun.
Great vid!
Dutchoven08 4 years ago
Brilliant! Thanks
richyang05 4 years ago
This is great, ever changing lines, we need to stay awake, and keep asking ourselves is this the best I can do.
If we marry the planet, and make that our reference.
joyartdesign 4 years ago
Eat THAT, Thomas L. Friedman!
corporatewarrior 4 years ago
"Land wasted on peasants becomes land for energy." Ha ha! Really good little video - the best satire of bourgeois environmentalism I've seen.
HSMauberley 4 years ago
Thanks for putting this together.
Unfortunately, cynicism is required and effective to push back against the damage that greenwashing is doing.
Pseustainability forever!
sutherix 4 years ago
Remember the three R's?
REDUCE was always first!
I think I may have purchased my last new vehicle...makes you think!
mgarrah 4 years ago
I thought it was great, and it gave me some good humor-therapy. Some of the greenwashing out there makes me so mad. I do think the film gives a message: don't just consume greener; consume less! A very important message that just isn't getting out enough, even to those trying to do the right thing.
earthsistah 4 years ago
It is the cultural idealogy of consumerism that needs to change, if the Green movement is to be more significant than as simply the latest catchphrase.
pmccarthy74 4 years ago
no actually it is a great video, because it draws attention to the growing problem of greenwashing, whereby individuals tout themselves as green while still adhering to consumer mentality ideals and in reality still adding to the problem, and to our greater detriment, businesses like Pepsi-Cola and Waste Management can use the green movement as a marketing tool, while continuing to engage in harmful and destructive business practices.
pmccarthy74 4 years ago 2
less than 20 seconds of this video actually discusses anything solution related. The rest is just a sarcastic barrage against everything from biofuels to hybrid cars. This isn't great content - it just helps apathetic people to continue believing that ignoring the whole thing is okay. Too bad the people who made this movie couldn't use their considerable talent to actually promote some useful action instead.
jpeeris 4 years ago
maybe the video should make YOU think of a solution, instead of of just offering them up for consumption.
buenguy 4 years ago
what do you mean?
jpeeris 4 years ago
which part is unclear? u criticize the video for not offering solutions.
maybe the video isnt meant to offer solutions, but to get you to think of your own.
buenguy 4 years ago
ill try to slow down.
u criticize the video for not offering solutions.
maybe the video isnt meant to offer solutions, but to get you to think them for urself.
buenguy 4 years ago
i spent my entire life making my contribution to creating more sustainable living on the planet - that's what I do for a living. - what about YOU?
jpeeris 4 years ago
i try to keep my good deeds to myself.
u should try that.
buenguy 4 years ago
This is a great video. Very creative and the messaging is on the mark!
ConsciousConsuming 4 years ago
Thank you for the great content. This video is now playing on Hawaii Pictures . com. Mahalos! Check the chat room on the bottom of the home page.
addictist 4 years ago