Look, one Albanian who is moslem is TURKISH NEITHER WEAR A FOUSTANELA OR NOT. Contrary many Tosks have Greek origin and if they are CHRISTIANS THEN THEY ARE OUR (GREEKS) COMPATRIOTS. IS IT CLEAR??
@KRONOSELLAS are you stupid?!?!? albania have muslim, catholic and orthodox!! tosk and gheg is albanian people. shut the fuck up til i gonna punch your goddamn face!!
@MergimMafia IN EPIROS, THERE ARE ONLY ANCIENT GREEK MONUMENTS - NOT ANCIENT ALBANIAN MONUMENTS AT ALL. ALBANIAN ARE CONQUERORS OF NORTH EPIROS, THEY ARE STRANGERS FOR EPIROS. ALBANIANS NO CONECTION WITH EPIROS. IF YOU FIND ONLY ONE STONE WITH ALBANIAN WRITING THEN GREEKS CAN MAKE A DIALOG WITH YOU. UNDERSTAND TURKISH ALBANIAN MOUSLIM MONGOL?
send me a link where it says Albanians are from caucaus, not a bogus one, a serious link. If you cant, take back your claim and delete your account. Youtube will be a better place without racist hate promoting people like you.
@YllusMC let him talk, he is stupid person hahahah :D when i read for him, i just laugh and laugh, hahahahhaha !! :DD you know it, they think we albania are from caucasus, that's russia find they own self, but in the truth, is not. albania and greece are oldest in the europe, i know you know it
Arvanite are Albanian, thats why we can understand their language, and thats where you got fustanella from. Hellen helmets from the earliest known times were known as Illyrian helmets, the same thing happened there.
Do u believe in God? Last time I checked, haters and racists have a special place after life, you might meet people like Agamemnon there, tell him youre greek and see if he understands your langauge. ;D!
u call me scum, you call me analbanian, you dont even know what I look like, you call Albanians turks, we should be insulted by this, but that would make us no better than you, turks are people too, we are not them. If you find their blood in our land and yours, you should know why its there, and its not a majority. Dont act like you know facts, answer my questions I said earlier with reliable links if you got balls, or else shut the fuck up! you are racist! haha
Albanians are not your enemies, you are the greedy fucks who chose to make us such. We both had one enemy, the turks, then everything was suppose to be greek. Your heroes Arvanite spoke Albanian, and still sing in our language. our blood helped you fight for freedom, when the fuck did we become enemies? A bunch of small battles you bring up were merely religion divisions, even Skenderbeg fought other Albanians that were muslim, that didnt make him non Albanian or them. ITS politics
@YllusMC ASS Albanian , LISTEN TO ME , THE GREEK ARVANITES FOUGHT AGAINST Albanians, THE 1770 AND DEAFEATED YOU. THE Albanians WAS INSIDE IN Otoman ARMY, AND ONE LIFE AND FOUGHT AGAINST , THE GREEKS
religions or tribal differences were present between Albanians everywhere. turkish army had soldiers stolen from when they were children in all our lands, greek, Albanian, slavic, etc. This inner tribal fighing goes back to Illyrians times, they fought with one another while the romans were conquering them. They were weak because they were divided, thats why when Skenderbeg united us, the turks were defeated. Quit cherry picking, dont make me pull put the slavic card in your blood
here is a fact to hole your argument, I say "Arvanite are Albanian", you say "how so"? I say "they spoke and still speak Albanian, wear fustanella like Albanians, dance and sing like Albanians, etc." You say "Skendergeg is greek", I say "how so?" You say...?
I am simply challenging yours with reliable historical facts that are not written by Albanians, which would make them no propaganda. you are the one who says "everything is greek" to every argument. u loser
@unfukkkmee you can just shut the fuck boy! you dont know about albania history!! shame of you, what about you ha?!?! you are just motherfucker lier bitch asshole!! arvanite is just for albania, not greek!!
Albanian is a foreign name for us, we call ourselves Shqiptar aka Sons of Eagles, just like Pyrrhus the great once did, back then we were known as Illyrian. Have you read any non greek historical books? I would rather be called Albania, just like Scottland's other name, or Englands "Albion", a name found throughout europe, than to be called greek aka anal pleasure aka gay, thats where the word comes from, latin. Judging by your picture, that word was made for you. whats up racist??
out of that less than 1% ancient script that has survived they have fabricated another 99% with miss interpretations and outrages assumptions with no evidence...Epirotes (pirro who was raised by illyrian king), Alexanders mother the illyrian/ princess of epirus,etc.....TOSKS ARE ALBANIANS AND THEY STILL EXIST....GREEKS CAN'T GET OFF ALBANIAN DICK....
we seen hellenization of all albanian names(tis at the end) just like we see in the north with slavs (vic in the end) to try and hide the truth and take the credit...They have no connections with ancient Greeks that they so try to claim not the language or tradition....they have come to a point where they would say anything to try and keep there lies going....Albanians in Greece(Arvanites) mostly assimilated...Epiri was always albanian as history shows....
tosks are not Greeks....Albanians(arvanites) who helped them win their freedom eventually got back stabbed and faced hard assimilation tactics....outlawing of schools, language, as the process continued we seen qameri go through rough times and we actually lost qameri to them because of the world powers just like kosov etc.....they wanted to cleanse it and munipilate numbers so they can claim it as their own....it had to be done to make it try work out with their fabricated history....
@ktm066 i really don't understand why you telling him that he is albanian and that he has fled....it is obvious he is not....he has no knowledge of our race at all.....stop telling him he's tosk and that he fled they never fled to anywhere....he's a anti-albanian moron who is obsessed with Albanians and tries to claim he is one of them while at the same time tries to degrade them as much as possible...he's leading you into a retarded argument about tosks and gegs...just ignore the gypsy
@ktm066 who gives a fuck what an uneducated retard Greek thinks....their country was made by Albanians, Their history is all Albanian, They worship Albanian men.....there's no need for you to waste your time trying to explain something to a gypsy that can not understand......all that matters is that they know we made Greece it self and now they trying to say that Epirotes are Greek...Epirotes tosk still exist and are Albanian....
@ideos5 hey retard....go fuck yourself....tosk geg all albanian...you have no relations to ancient Greeks if any connection is between them and modern ppl is Albanians.....you are not tosk from Epirus ur a gypsy...stfu already...Albanians freed and made Greece you are not an Arvanite...Arvanite was a term used to id. Albanians just as Arnauts was used by turks and Albanian is used by English/Americans
@ideos5 Albanians don't and never cared about religion...that card is played out already stop trying to use it....Ilir/Epir both the same, Pirro was raised by Illyrian King ....Gjergj Kastrioti on the paper to Taulanti said ..."You show no knowledge of my race and talk of the ALBANESE with great disrespect...it was these ppl you speak of that went as far as Egypt,etc with Alexander......If my chronicles do not lie we call ourselves Epirotes" go learn something little bitch and stfu
@ktm066 U resisted the Turks at the beginning with the help of George Kastriotes that was a GREEK Prince from EPEIRUS , AND THEN u became Moslem's !! ha ha ha
FACE THE TRUTH , u GEGS are nothing but Bandits and thieves , after u became Moslem's u started killing Ur neighbors together with the Turks.
The KANOUN is of Turkish tradition and not ours ! If u take pride in this Turkish tradition good luck to you !
@ideos5 in ancient Scripts it is written how at that river the 2 languages mixed with no difficulty.....thats because it was the same language 2 diff dialects,you have nothing to do with Albanians or Pelasgians Gypsy...our language was not adopted from you,your language has no significance whatsoever to the Ancient Greeks,your traditions aren't the same,our language, traditions are similar to Illyrians....Geg, Tosk..is a dialect not a whole diff. nation,you stupidity seems to have no boundries.
@Bardh87 Finally one Albanian person that, claims some kind of historical knowledge !
I have being talking to this other person , a GEG , KTM066 and so far its a waist of time since his not adverse in History . Now ,, to start a whole new conversation with u , i would kindly ask u on 2 conditions 1 , please read carefully my position on the subject ( my previous postings ) 2 ,, refrain from name slurring .
Assuming that this conditions are mutually agreed , i am starting i dialog with u
@ideos5 hmm are you serious....you degrade my race and my brothers with your propaganda and claims that hold no water. You try to claim that Tosks and Gegs hate each other but as history showed in BC era and AD era we always lived amongst each other....but even Brothers in the same house fight at times....you have no dialog ...you have nothing to prove your claims...no evidence..Greeks are not Tosks...there is no reason to continue goodbye.
@ideos5 What kind of dialogue do you expect? Waste my time with bullshit?....why do you say WE for Arvanites and Epirotes how are you related to them? Who said to you that tosks and gegs were not in good terms?...since you know so much of propaganda then why use it?.....this video doesn't claim Foustanela is only Albanian but its origin is Albanian just as polyphonic music, etc. I wrote to you to expose your mythological ideology of you being of Albanian(Arvanite) descend.
@Bardh87 I hope by now u realize that Arvanites+Epirotes are racially the same as Greeks ! We are not Hellenisised ,, WE ARE THE TRUE GREEKS , as a mater of fact ?? more Greeks than the Athenians !!!
Yes ,, i admit there is a slight admixture of Dinaric race in us but ? it is only normal after coexisting with you for so many century's,by the same token ,, u also have Greek blood in Ur veins !!
Take a close look in this video ,, ure showing ancient Greek statues to prove the authenticity ,,
This is the kind of extrims that some individuals will go in order to advance they're nationalistic aspirations !!
It is immoral and despicable this kind of attitude whether it comes from Albanians or Greeks .
Finally ,,,, Polyphonic music was sinked by Greeks long before the Albanians ! The Dorian's used this music everywhere they went ,from Sparta to Italy to Asia Minor to the Black sea
No mythology ,, read independent sources to find the truth
@ideos5 When speaking of Polyphonic music there is no need for me to prove anything...it is already protected by UNESCO.....Arvanites+Epirotes are not the same as Greeks...Just like if my grandchild grows and assimilates into American...he is not the Same as all Americans, all have different backgrounds...get the point? not all branches from the same root...Illyria, Epiri, Emadhia, are branches of Pelasgians...it is said Greeks migrated and adapted beliefs etc from them.
@Bardh87 Polyphonic music is not an Albanian invention, it is still singed in Bulgaria as well as other parts of the Balkans, for example , in the island of CRETE that had no influence wats,oever with Slavs,Bulgarians,or Albanians , this type of singing exists even today continuously for thousands of years ! It,s called RIZITIKA .
So much of Ur boasting !!! case close .
America is a perfect example , when white people moved in to America,they found the local population of Indians,today,,
@Bardh87 ,, when one speaks of America ,immediately comes to mind the white Anglo,Saxon people and language that is spoken in this country,forgetting that for thousands of years other people (Indians ) lived and civilized this land !
Dinarics came from Caucasus and settled in north-west corner of the Balkans in 3 waves ,the first took place in 2.000 BC , the second,, after the destruction of the ALBANS in Caucasus by POMPEY, and the third by the Turks that brought Caucasian mercenary's to ,,,,
@Bardh87 ,, than u Dinarics , and we prefer to call our selfs Greeks instead of Albanians ,after all ALBANIA is a name that u people brought from Caucasus and not the original name of the land u live in today .
If u want prove,look Ptolemy's maps and u will see that Albania is in the Caucasus , further , read DIO CASSIUS on ROMAN HISTORY, BOOK 36-40 Page, quot, Iberians dwell on both sides of Cyrnus,adjoining the ALBANIANS on the one hand and the ARMENIANS on the other,,
@Bardh87 , , page 103 , while he himself directed his course against the ALBANIANS,, page 107 ,, After accomplishing this,and overrunning the country,POMPEY granted peace to the ALBANIANS , and on the arrival of heralds concluded a truce with some of the other tribes that dwell along the CAUCASUS as far as the Caspian sea where the mountains witch begin at PONTUS come to an end .
I could quot u hundreds of different authors , but ? Ur so brain washed with this nationalistic crap in Ur head
OH YES ,, I suppose King PYROS of EPEIROS ,spoked Albanian to his soldiers when he invaded Italy ???
ha ha ha Ur such a pathetic Little Albanian !!!!
And QUEEN OLYMPIAS from EPEIPUS spoked Albanian to her son ALEXANDROS ? HA HA HA
Greece has such a rich history that other people such as u are trying to steal , Albania is so poor in history ,we don't nead to steal anything ! Imagine ,, a 100 years back u people had no ALPHABET !!!
@ideos5 Arvanites is/was the term used to identify Albanians of Greece...Just as Arnauts is the word used in Turkey and Albania is used in America...So how do you claim yourself to be an Arvanite and say you are not Albanian.....This Tosk/Geg thing is getting me aggravated because you have put so much bullshit in it....yes language does support our theory of being the same nation because we never adopted it from anywhere we kept it....Who said Epirotes spoke Greek??
@ideos5 Strabo writes of how they intermingled with Illyrians as well as Macedons and how they all claimed to be the same because of same tradition, etc. I understand that you GREEKS have no history and its all based on Albanians but now to start saying that Tosks are Greek...is idiotic....Arvanites got assimilated and Qams were kicked out their lands etc...both Tosks..both Epirotes....Qams which are Tosk Epirotes still exist and are Albanian...
@ideos5 this debate based on Dialect is useless....we both know there's nothing there you can use but now that you are all starting to admit the Albanian heritage and great influence on your history etc you want to go and claim that you are all Tosks?? and that tosks and Gegs hated eachother etc.??? even tosk tribes fought each other at times....Albania didn't lie but when it came to a point in time and age where you have to identify your people as one to be recognized in the world it did...
@ideos5 so now honestly....go fuck yourself....just because you had a few Albanians in Greece help you and you stole our history....it doesn't make you one of us..
This concludes oure dialog , irrelevant of what u think of me ,i have try ed in all honesty to make u understand that this path of extreme nationalism do not help Albania or Greece , we both are blood related, and are the only ORIGINAL inhabit ans of the Balkan peninsula !
If i wanted to be one of u , i would not spent time trying to convince u i am not .
END OF STORY,, GOOD LUCK TO YOU AND GOD BLES the good people of Albania and Greece
@ideos5 fuck you...i have realized these dialogues are useless with you Greek idiots....you never stop with bullshit....Yea Pirro I Epirit spoke albanian/illyrian how else do you think the ruler of Illyria raised him...speaking Greek to him??? See wtf i mean ...so go fuck yourself idiot....get off albanian dick
@Bardh87 What u realized is Ur inability to confront logic and true history !
Usually UN,educated persons such as u have no arguments when they encounter logic and resort to : fuck you, dick head, idiot , etc,etc .
Again,, take a word of advise from a 53 years old man , stop this nationalistic foolishness, if u want to know who u are and Ur interested in history,race,anthropology, read independent authors on the subject.
@ideos5 I have read from many independent sources which include present day to the ancient times, i have had my share of classical cultures studies....yet from all the arguments and debates i have had so far with individuals with your mind set and mentality there was never any progress....you and your fellow Greek youtubers have showed your true nature of trying to fabricate and dismantle my history and claim it as your own..
@ideos5 this is obviously shown by the time wasted in going through Albanian videos and commenting ridiculous claims without strong evidence....most of you only look to use ancient scripts and not look at any later documents...because of the freedom that you have for interpretation and manipulation of the writers true message, keeping in mind that only less than 1% of ancient scripts have survived...yet when I have cited Strabo, Putarch, etc...you all have ignored them...
@ideos5 so I have come to the point where I must calmly and straight forwardly say FUCK YOU to all of you and stop wasting my time with idiots like you who are here trying to inform me of my history,why would I need you to tell me who I am and who is my brother or sister, I already know who I am, no need for research.
My race gave the world many great individuals: Kings, Emperors, Generals, Warriors, Saints, Authors etc
@Bardh87 BIGGEST LIAR SON OF WHORE turkalbanian BITCH STOP THE ULTRA PROPAGANDA AGAINST GREECE. AND LISTEN THE TRUTH THE EPIRUS IS CREATIVE OF GREEK KING PYRROS THE ARVANITES ARE GREEKS
@ideos5 You Greeks never talked of Epirotes speaking the Tosk Albanian dialect...After we told you now you have all these theories....all of you Greek individuals have taking too many paths in attempt to steal our history...this is one too many.....at the end we must remember that what you and your other fellow Greek individuals claim is only your opinion and has no tangible or even intangible evidence to support it. Arvanites have mostly assimilated...a true Arvanite would still speak Albanian.
@Bardh87 Epirotes never specked anything but Greek,we Arvanites speak Tosk but belong to an ancient Greek tribe called PELASGOI . The territories the Pelasgian tribe lived started south of Tyrana all the way south in to Greek mainland ! Perhaps u don't like what u read , but u could easily inform yourself if u goggle it !
The very first religious sanctuary of ZEUS was in DODONA ( south Illiria ) and was called the PELASGIAN ZEUS ! This is what we are ! We are rich in history ,we don't have ,,
@Bardh87 ,, to steal any nations history to justify aure existence, on the contrary ,, after the creation of Albania after the first world war,, Albanian extreme nationals started to call Arvanites + Epirotes as Albanians .
This nationalism is reflected in Albanian government policies starting with XOTZAS regime,, suddenly and without any archaeological linguistic or historical backing ur are teched in Ur schools as being ILLYRIANS,PELASGIANS,DARDANIANS, as the oldest European nation !!!!!!!
@ideos5 you are to stupid!!! motherfucker bitch asshole!! you can just fuck your goddamn mother!!! thats make you better !!!! albania and greece are the oldest country in the europe!!! UNDERSTAND?!?!?! gosshh shame of you!!!!! bitch ass motherfucker gayreek!!!!
@ideos5 I KNOW YOU CARE WHEN I SAID IT!!! HAHAHAHAH !!! I READ ALBANIA HSITORY; GHEG AND TOSK AND ETC!!!! YOU GOT IT!!! MOTHERFUCKER BITCH ASS MOTHERFUCKER!!!!
@ideos5 and tosk and gheg are albanian, tosk is not greek, fucking lier, just trying to steal us history!! it's mean, your country is just to be jealous, that albania have power!!! ALBANIA 4 EVER!!! greece for monkey, hahahahhh!!
@ideos5 FUCK YOUUU!! HA are you telling me that gjergj kastriot is GREEK?!?!?!? WTF ARE YOU SAYING FOR ?!?!?!? HE WAS FOR EVER ALBANIAN!!! ALBANIA IS STILL HAVE POWER; SO SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! ALBANIA HAVE MUCH HISTORY TO, AND GREECE ARE STOLEN OUR HISTORY!!! FUCKING LOSER!!! by the way, i dont care about turkey, i care about just for my country albania!
@MergimMafia If u take the time to read the true history of G . KASTRIOTIS u will find that his Father was a Greek DESPOTE and his mother was a SERBIAN Princes .
Now ,,,, it is not only the Greeks that say he was a Greek ,, Italian authors as well as other Europeans are saying the same .
For us Greeks he is a person of minor importance ,, we have bigger hero,s to admire than him .
Stop Ur foolisnes ,, even the flag of Albania is Greek from the Byzantine times
@ideos5 listen gayreek boy , are you saying that Gjergj Kastrioti was Greek??? WTF?!?!?! are you trying to tricking me out?!?! I read everything history by albanians history, not in internet like you!! we albanians know he was albanian!! you need to wake up dude, and you need to sharpen yourself when you talking about gjergj kastrioti!! he was forever albanian person!!! fucking deaf boy!! You think albania dont have nothing history HA?!?! hahahahah it is allowed to dream hsahhahahahah!
No my stupid Albanian friend , i don't care for you ,, everything you wrought so far is nothing than stupidity's ,,,, i told you before ,, read some books before posting ,,, don't you see that you are making a fool of your self along with the good Albanians ? WHAT ARE YOU 14-15 YEARS OLD ???
GO AND SUCK YOUR MOTHERS TITS IDIOT , AND DON'T WRIGHT ME AGAIN CAUSE I WONT ANSWER YOU
@ideos5 This is why there is no reason for a dialect....your main agenda seems to be to make it seem as if Tosks/Gegs are not the same....but they are the same...I could speak to you in the Tosk dialect and you wont be able to tell the difference....dialect does not have significance in this topic of Fustanella. The Albanians that helped Greece have been backstabbed instead of being thanked. They have assimilated....& you try to claim that you are of their descend without tradition or language.
@Bardh87 I have no agenda,am just stating the obvious,Tosks+Gegs are anthropologically different, Tosks being of the proto,Mediterranean race,while Gegs are of Dinaric.
Language is not an indication of race,Hungary speaks a Turkish language but racially belongs to the Alpine race,same is truth of Bulgaria( Thracian race)Turkey (proto,Greek,Mediterranean race) Romania speaks an Italic language but are of Germanic,Slavic race !
Ur argument identifying language and race is not valid .
@ideos5 So, this is it ....thats the end of the dialogue...your a 53 year old man who has nothing better do do but try to fabricate history...im a 23 year old who's telling you that you will not succeed and are wasting your time ....believe me....
@Bardh87 Oh believe me i do have a life and and plenty of thing to do !
Visiting utoube i noticed the hatred and extreme nationalistic tendency's that prevail in this sites , i started righting against this tendencies in the hope of making individuals understand that hate and nationalism breeds more hate ! U might think i am against Albanians , not true ! I am also against Greeks extremists and i wright against them as well . I do not want to change Ur believes
@ktm066 Stop saying ALBANIANS , u are GEGS not Albanians !
in the Battle of Kosovo Gegs did not fight the Turks , there was a small contingent from the Despotat of EPEIROUS fighting on the side of the Serbians against the Turks . U Gegs were hiding in the mountains of SQIPITARIA .
When Gegs became Islamized ( 120 years later ) u started immigrating in Kosovo, the place names that u mention were given after this immigration
WTF IS THIS SHITT.....o i know just some old anti-albanians trying to start a fight between albanian tosks n gegs....lol good try once again wont work...
@ktm066 When you GEGS came in Albania Ur were dressed in Shep skins , Foustanela was already wore by ARVANITES ,1.000 years before you arrived ! Stop you,re idiotic bubbling and find a corner in SQIPITERIA
@ktm066 You,r so sick In the head ! you're nationalistic fervor makes us laughter !
According to Ur way of thinking the only good people are the GEGS ! Imagine this !! WAOOOO What did the GEGS contributed to humanity ? Nothing but killings,stealing, and barbarism ,,
TOSKS and ARVANITES are the true Albanians Ur nothing but a Sqipitar,go back in Caucasus where u came from .
Arvanites cowards ? is this why every time you GEGS came in Greece were fucked so badly by us ??
The original country of SQIPETERIA was the mountains of N. Albania , after the great Battle of the Kosovo fields , and when the Turks were in possession of Kosovo ,islamized Gegs came as immigrants in kosovo , and in time they became more numerous than the Serbians having the Turks on there side and massacring the local Serbs ! Today , Albanian nationalists go as far as saying that they are Dardanians just because they live in Ancient Dardania ! SHAME ON YOU !
@ktm066 Try to understand what i am righting instead of making me repeat the same things !
When the Turks came in Anatolia they were very few in numbers, the local population ( Greek,Mediterranean race ) adopted Islam and later the Turkish language , their,for,any racial mixing between Greeks and Turks were and are of the same race ! Ur making the same mistake as many un,informed people do ! Ur looking at the present day map and u thing that Greek people live only in present day Greece
@ktm066 instead of laughing ,, bahahahaha,, like an idiot, open up some proper books to read and, forget XOTZA,S propaganda !
We ARVANITES ,are the original inhabit ans of Albania , you GEGS are late comers !
You're first immigration in N.Albania was approx, in 2.000 BC , where u found the PELASGIANS ,under,mixed with them ,and adopted the Pelasgian language that was a proto,Greek dialect .
This is the reason that so many words of Ur language have similarity's with ancient Greek
Illyrians belong to the DINARIC race ,theyre homeland is Caucasus where they immigrated in Europe in approx. 2.000 BC part of this Dinarics settled where todays N.Albania is, where they inter,mixed with the local inhabitans .
Don't be so prude of Ur language , it is still an open question whether Albanian is ILLYRIAN, Linguists are saying we dont have inuf Illyrian words to compare with modern Albanian
@ktm066 Read some proper books of anthropology and not only the nationalistic crap u are teach-ed in Ur schools , Greeks always had a mixed color of hair , long before the Turks arrived in Asia Minor , Homer describes Achilles as KSANTHOS=LIGHT BROWN,and Odysseus as MELAN=dark haired .
Greeks belong to the great Mediterranean race that starts from the Pontic mountains and finishes in Italy ,
The reason that Ghegs have lighter hair is the result of racial mixing with the Slavs
@ktm066 Yur such a pathetic litle arshole ,ARVANITES are the true Ilirians and oure ancectors were the proude PELASGIANS tha were tha same race as the Greeks !
The only comon thing we have with Albanians is the language that u people imposed on us begining from the 7nth century and terminating after the mass exodus from oure homeland that u people call Albania today ! This is why today very few of us speak that stupid Tosk dilect ,we speak ure true original language witch is GREEK !
@ktm066 Yure not making any sense , who was ruining from who ?
You Albanians always side with the Turks , in Fact you were so scared from the Turks that a majority of Albanians became Islamized ! The Turkish army used Albanian Muslims recruits to slaughter the Christian populations in the Balkans ,Meddle East , and Egypt from the 16 century until 1912 .
No wonder Ur are not liked by Serbians,Greeks,Bulgarians and any nation that u came in contact with !
hahahahahaha go read homer the great poet he names πουσδεαρριον πους = foot δεαριον = tight around now π=p becomes f and ρρ=r becomes ll and makes fusteallion put an n to sound good makes fustanella. BUT SINCE YOU NEVER READ PELASGIAN HOMER, YOUR MIND IS STUCK with shqiptar ignorance
ha ha ha so funny that GAYREEK FAGGOT looks lost, what on earth can he protect he can't even keep his fustanella up, that's because they're not used to it yet...that is something you're not supposed to have cos it's OURS if you want to used ASK POLITELY and we show you how it's worn ok...
A tip for you be careful with that GUN JUNIOR or it might go up somewhere where the sun don't shine.
ORIGJINA E FUSTANELLES ESHTE SHQIPERIA OSE ME QARTE JUGU I SHQIPERISE
THE FUSTANELLA IS GREEK
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kengen kush e kendon? Gzim Nika?
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@TimTirana 111111 ANAL- BA-NA -NIA
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@TimTirana THE AlbaniaNS IS ENEMIES OF GREEKS
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Look, one Albanian who is moslem is TURKISH NEITHER WEAR A FOUSTANELA OR NOT. Contrary many Tosks have Greek origin and if they are CHRISTIANS THEN THEY ARE OUR (GREEKS) COMPATRIOTS. IS IT CLEAR??
KRONOSELLAS 4 months ago
@KRONOSELLAS lol stop drogs
FrenchGirlWarior 4 months ago
@KRONOSELLAS are you stupid?!?!? albania have muslim, catholic and orthodox!! tosk and gheg is albanian people. shut the fuck up til i gonna punch your goddamn face!!
MergimMafia 3 weeks ago
@MergimMafia IN EPIROS, THERE ARE ONLY ANCIENT GREEK MONUMENTS - NOT ANCIENT ALBANIAN MONUMENTS AT ALL. ALBANIAN ARE CONQUERORS OF NORTH EPIROS, THEY ARE STRANGERS FOR EPIROS. ALBANIANS NO CONECTION WITH EPIROS. IF YOU FIND ONLY ONE STONE WITH ALBANIAN WRITING THEN GREEKS CAN MAKE A DIALOG WITH YOU. UNDERSTAND TURKISH ALBANIAN MOUSLIM MONGOL?
KRONOSELLAS 3 weeks ago
@KRONOSELLAS SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! EPIRUS IS ALBANIA NOT GREECE, DONE!!!
ALBANIA IS NOT TURKISH; DUMBASS GAYREEK!! ALBANIA IS ILLYRIA!!!! GET LOST TIL I GONNA PUNCH YOUR GODDAMN FACE!!
MergimMafia 3 weeks ago
@MergimMafia WHAT DO YOU SAY TSOBANI? GO TO YOUR MOUNTAINS, LET THE HISTORY FOR GREEKS TAKE YOUR SHEEPS
KRONOSELLAS 3 weeks ago
@KRONOSELLAS YOU KNOW WHAT; EVERYTHING YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR SELF, TAKE YOUR MOM TO THE MOUNTAINS!!! THERE YOU CAN FUCK WITH YOUR MOM!!!
MergimMafia 3 weeks ago
@MergimMafia do you know that you are dhimbje koke?
KRONOSELLAS 3 weeks ago
@MergimMafia i do not curse you mom. i am sure she is good woman, but she has a djale gay
KRONOSELLAS 3 weeks ago
illirians albanians bllod long live unitet states of albanians
MrLadrocuori 5 months ago
unfukkkmeeeeeee fuck youuuuuuuuuu your face its like pic of shitttttttttttttt ahahahahahaahahah ta shpifffffffffffffffffff ftyra e ktit rop qirit
AlidemsGanidoms 9 months ago
THE FUSTANELLA IS GREEK
unfukkkmee 1 year ago
@unfukkkmee shut up you greek gay king.look at your head, you come from causcus
agon1984 10 months ago
@agon1984 ALBO BITCH THE ALBNIANS ARE FROM CAUCASUS WAKE UP
unfukkkmee 10 months ago
@unfukkkmee
send me a link where it says Albanians are from caucaus, not a bogus one, a serious link. If you cant, take back your claim and delete your account. Youtube will be a better place without racist hate promoting people like you.
YllusMC 4 months ago
@YllusMC let him talk, he is stupid person hahahah :D when i read for him, i just laugh and laugh, hahahahhaha !! :DD you know it, they think we albania are from caucasus, that's russia find they own self, but in the truth, is not. albania and greece are oldest in the europe, i know you know it
MergimMafia 3 weeks ago
@unfukkkmee blablablabla, you wake up!!
MergimMafia 3 weeks ago
@unfukkkmee
Arvanite are Albanian, thats why we can understand their language, and thats where you got fustanella from. Hellen helmets from the earliest known times were known as Illyrian helmets, the same thing happened there.
YllusMC 4 months ago
@YllusMC IS NOT ''racism'' LEAVE THE, PROPAGANDA, THE Albanians IS ENEMY OF GREEKS.
THE ARVANITES ARE GREEKS.
ARVANITE IS GREEK WORD. ALL ANCIENT MAPS HAVE , THE ALBANIA IN CAUCASUS.
unfukkkmee 4 months ago
@unfukkkmee
so you got no link to prove your claim? Arvanite this n that, tell me, why do they speak Albanian?
YllusMC 4 months ago
@YllusMC THE Albanians HAVE VERY DIFFERENT FEATURES, FROM ARVANITES.
THE ARVANITES HAVE GREEK FEATURES, FOR THIS ARE GREEKS.
unfukkkmee 4 months ago
@unfukkkmee
Do u believe in God? Last time I checked, haters and racists have a special place after life, you might meet people like Agamemnon there, tell him youre greek and see if he understands your langauge. ;D!
YllusMC 4 months ago
@YllusMC THE ENEMY IS ENEMY, IF I HATE ONE EMEMY U CANNOT CALL ME ''RACIST''
unfukkkmee 4 months ago
@unfukkkmee
u call me scum, you call me analbanian, you dont even know what I look like, you call Albanians turks, we should be insulted by this, but that would make us no better than you, turks are people too, we are not them. If you find their blood in our land and yours, you should know why its there, and its not a majority. Dont act like you know facts, answer my questions I said earlier with reliable links if you got balls, or else shut the fuck up! you are racist! haha
YllusMC 4 months ago
@unfukkkmee
Albanians are not your enemies, you are the greedy fucks who chose to make us such. We both had one enemy, the turks, then everything was suppose to be greek. Your heroes Arvanite spoke Albanian, and still sing in our language. our blood helped you fight for freedom, when the fuck did we become enemies? A bunch of small battles you bring up were merely religion divisions, even Skenderbeg fought other Albanians that were muslim, that didnt make him non Albanian or them. ITS politics
YllusMC 4 months ago
@YllusMC ASS Albanian , LISTEN TO ME , THE GREEK ARVANITES FOUGHT AGAINST Albanians, THE 1770 AND DEAFEATED YOU. THE Albanians WAS INSIDE IN Otoman ARMY, AND ONE LIFE AND FOUGHT AGAINST , THE GREEKS
unfukkkmee 4 months ago
@unfukkkmee
religions or tribal differences were present between Albanians everywhere. turkish army had soldiers stolen from when they were children in all our lands, greek, Albanian, slavic, etc. This inner tribal fighing goes back to Illyrians times, they fought with one another while the romans were conquering them. They were weak because they were divided, thats why when Skenderbeg united us, the turks were defeated. Quit cherry picking, dont make me pull put the slavic card in your blood
YllusMC 4 months ago
@YllusMC THE ILLYRIANS ARE NOT albanians. THE KASTRIOTIS IS GREEK WHO FOUGHT WITH Albanians.
THE SLAVS ARE GERMANS WITH VERY MIXED MONGOL BLOOD
unfukkkmee 4 months ago
@unfukkkmee
here is a fact to hole your argument, I say "Arvanite are Albanian", you say "how so"? I say "they spoke and still speak Albanian, wear fustanella like Albanians, dance and sing like Albanians, etc." You say "Skendergeg is greek", I say "how so?" You say...?
YllusMC 4 months ago
@YllusMC THE KASTRIOTIS IS GREEK. THE ARVANITES ARE GREEKS. FUSTANELLA IS GREEK
unfukkkmee 4 months ago
@unfukkkmee
u r a funny dude
YllusMC 4 months ago
@YllusMC THE TRUTH IS PAIN
unfukkkmee 4 months ago
@unfukkkmee
you know that definition too well, no sympathy from us Albanians there!
YllusMC 4 months ago
@YllusMC IM NOT '' traitor ''
unfukkkmee 4 months ago
@unfukkkmee
my people have been cool an respected you, your people have back stabbed mine, youre the fucking traitors.
YllusMC 4 months ago
@YllusMC YOUR ''PEOPLE'' ARE MURDERERS AND STEALERS AGAINST, THE GREEKS
unfukkkmee 4 months ago
@unfukkkmee
your people are from another planet, I can make claims too idiot. Tell me Albanian blood didnt help liberate you from turks? I dare you
YllusMC 4 months ago
THE EARTH IS GREEK. THE ARVANITES ARE GREEKS AGAINST, THE Albanians
@YllusMC THE Albanians ARE REPTILIANS FROM CAUCASUS.
unfukkkmee 4 months ago
@unfukkkmee
leave comedy to the professionals fool
YllusMC 4 months ago
@YllusMC YES U ARE PROFESSIONAL PROPAGANDIST AGAINST, THE GREEK HISTORY
unfukkkmee 4 months ago
@unfukkkmee
I am simply challenging yours with reliable historical facts that are not written by Albanians, which would make them no propaganda. you are the one who says "everything is greek" to every argument. u loser
YllusMC 4 months ago
THE Albanians ARE ASIANS FROM CAUCASUS ,THIS IS HISTORICAL TRUTH.
DIRTY ANALbanian BITCH STOP, THE HATE AND THE PROPAGANDA AGAINST, THE GREEKS.
@YllusMC THE JESUS SAID HOW THE GREEKS IS THE GLORY(CREATOR) OF HUMANITY
unfukkkmee 4 months ago
@unfukkkmee you can just shut the fuck boy! you dont know about albania history!! shame of you, what about you ha?!?! you are just motherfucker lier bitch asshole!! arvanite is just for albania, not greek!!
MergimMafia 3 weeks ago
@unfukkkmee nope man, you are lier, i know you are jealous that albania how to many history hahahahah you are looooser motherfucker!! :DD
MergimMafia 3 weeks ago
@YllusMC agree with you man :D keep it ! i know he is mental guy that he is just jealous hahahahah!!
MergimMafia 3 weeks ago
@unfukkkmee the slavs people are macedonia, serbia, croatia, bosnia&herzegovina, ukraina, polen, tsjekkia, slovakia, bulgaria and russia!!
german is: norway, sweden, denmark!!
MergimMafia 3 weeks ago
@unfukkkmee
Albanian is a foreign name for us, we call ourselves Shqiptar aka Sons of Eagles, just like Pyrrhus the great once did, back then we were known as Illyrian. Have you read any non greek historical books? I would rather be called Albania, just like Scottland's other name, or Englands "Albion", a name found throughout europe, than to be called greek aka anal pleasure aka gay, thats where the word comes from, latin. Judging by your picture, that word was made for you. whats up racist??
YllusMC 4 months ago
@YllusMC ANALbanian SCUM, DONT STEAL THE GREEK HISTORY, THE PYRRHUS IS GREEK
unfukkkmee 4 months ago
@unfukkkmee you are such as lier gay boy, damnn ewww, get out of her youtube and internet to, hahah :D
MergimMafia 3 weeks ago
@unfukkkmee fustanella is albania, you asshole!
MergimMafia 3 weeks ago
@MergimMafia IN ORDER TO BE FUSTANELA ALBANIAN , PRECONDITION IS TO BE ALBANIAN NATION BEFORE GREEK NATION. HAVE YOU GOT ANY PROOFS?
KRONOSELLAS 3 weeks ago
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Dola nga legjenda, Shpirtin e plagosun, gjall më m'bajti besa, ëndrra e pa sosun,
Muja dhe Halili, Gjergj Elez Alia,
Sot me dhan Kushtrimin,
napër Shqipëria,
Eja Tosk e eja Geg V'llazën të një nane,
Fustanella me xhublet, Sot po hedhin Valle.....
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Bardh87 1 year ago
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Dola nga legjenda, Shpirtin e plagosun, gjall më m'bajti besa, ëndrra e pa sosun,
Muja dhe Halili, Gjergj Elez Alia,
Sot me dhan Kushtrimin,
napër Shqipëria,
Eja Tosk e eja Geg V'llazën të një nane,
Fustanella me xhublet, Sot po hedhin Valle.....
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Bardh87 1 year ago
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Bardh87 1 year ago
In the end it doesn't matter....this is youtube and anyone can post anything they want no matter how ridiculous it is.
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Bardh87 1 year ago
@ktm066 AGAIN U DONT UNDERSTAND , WE ARE NOT ALBANIANS WE ARE PELASGIANS
Just 2 answer u on two issues and then i am stopping with u cause u have,nt got the historical knowledge for further discussions .
When we moved in Greece we wore the same garments with the Greeks , ther plenty of pictographs to attest this in books and museums .
The scull cup was popular in Greece even before the HOMERIC times ! Look at pictures of ancient Greek vases in the museums .
My God help u to see the truth
ideos5 1 year ago
He is not an Albanian from Greece....just another low life Greek on Albanian dick.
Bardh87 1 year ago
out of that less than 1% ancient script that has survived they have fabricated another 99% with miss interpretations and outrages assumptions with no evidence...Epirotes (pirro who was raised by illyrian king), Alexanders mother the illyrian/ princess of epirus,etc.....TOSKS ARE ALBANIANS AND THEY STILL EXIST....GREEKS CAN'T GET OFF ALBANIAN DICK....
Bardh87 1 year ago
we seen hellenization of all albanian names(tis at the end) just like we see in the north with slavs (vic in the end) to try and hide the truth and take the credit...They have no connections with ancient Greeks that they so try to claim not the language or tradition....they have come to a point where they would say anything to try and keep there lies going....Albanians in Greece(Arvanites) mostly assimilated...Epiri was always albanian as history shows....
Bardh87 1 year ago
tosks are not Greeks....Albanians(arvanites) who helped them win their freedom eventually got back stabbed and faced hard assimilation tactics....outlawing of schools, language, as the process continued we seen qameri go through rough times and we actually lost qameri to them because of the world powers just like kosov etc.....they wanted to cleanse it and munipilate numbers so they can claim it as their own....it had to be done to make it try work out with their fabricated history....
Bardh87 1 year ago
@ktm066 i really don't understand why you telling him that he is albanian and that he has fled....it is obvious he is not....he has no knowledge of our race at all.....stop telling him he's tosk and that he fled they never fled to anywhere....he's a anti-albanian moron who is obsessed with Albanians and tries to claim he is one of them while at the same time tries to degrade them as much as possible...he's leading you into a retarded argument about tosks and gegs...just ignore the gypsy
Bardh87 1 year ago
@ktm066 who gives a fuck what an uneducated retard Greek thinks....their country was made by Albanians, Their history is all Albanian, They worship Albanian men.....there's no need for you to waste your time trying to explain something to a gypsy that can not understand......all that matters is that they know we made Greece it self and now they trying to say that Epirotes are Greek...Epirotes tosk still exist and are Albanian....
Bardh87 1 year ago
@ktm066 i can,t believe Ur stupidity !!!
GREEKS wore the XLAMYS ,PEPLO,FOUSTA, thousands of years before u people adapted as part of Ur dressing code !
And Ur giving me History lessons ?? c,mon man !!!!
Look at the ancient Greek statues and pictures ,, u will realize that Foustanela is just an evolution of the ANCIENT GREEK dressing code
ideos5 1 year ago
@ideos5 hey retard....go fuck yourself....tosk geg all albanian...you have no relations to ancient Greeks if any connection is between them and modern ppl is Albanians.....you are not tosk from Epirus ur a gypsy...stfu already...Albanians freed and made Greece you are not an Arvanite...Arvanite was a term used to id. Albanians just as Arnauts was used by turks and Albanian is used by English/Americans
Bardh87 1 year ago
@ktm066 Thank you !! finally you understand !!!!!
NO WE ARE NOT ALBANIANS !!!! we are PELASGIANS AND WE ARE GREEKS !!!!
We left our land ( EPEIRUS ) NOT FROM THE TURK,S but ? from Ur GEG prosecution , our exodus from our land started 600 years before the Turks arrived !
and after our exodus where did we go ??? We went to Italy and Greece , we went to our brothers and sisters that we new we are relatives with !
NO , U HAVE NO TRADITION everything that u have is stolen from us !
ideos5 1 year ago
@ideos5 Albanians don't and never cared about religion...that card is played out already stop trying to use it....Ilir/Epir both the same, Pirro was raised by Illyrian King ....Gjergj Kastrioti on the paper to Taulanti said ..."You show no knowledge of my race and talk of the ALBANESE with great disrespect...it was these ppl you speak of that went as far as Egypt,etc with Alexander......If my chronicles do not lie we call ourselves Epirotes" go learn something little bitch and stfu
Bardh87 1 year ago
@ktm066 U resisted the Turks at the beginning with the help of George Kastriotes that was a GREEK Prince from EPEIRUS , AND THEN u became Moslem's !! ha ha ha
FACE THE TRUTH , u GEGS are nothing but Bandits and thieves , after u became Moslem's u started killing Ur neighbors together with the Turks.
The KANOUN is of Turkish tradition and not ours ! If u take pride in this Turkish tradition good luck to you !
ideos5 1 year ago
@ktm066 Try to UNDERSTAND , u are not Albanians , u are GEGS !
U are stealing our history , our name , our kings , our traditions . WE ARE PELASGIANS and as such we are related to GREEKS AND NOT TO YOU !
The language u speak is PELASGIAN this language you adopted from us with few remaining words that u bring from Caucasus .
Today u talk of Albania as it is Ur country and this is not true !
North of the GENOUSOS river is Ur land , south of this line is our land !
ideos5 1 year ago
@ideos5 in ancient Scripts it is written how at that river the 2 languages mixed with no difficulty.....thats because it was the same language 2 diff dialects,you have nothing to do with Albanians or Pelasgians Gypsy...our language was not adopted from you,your language has no significance whatsoever to the Ancient Greeks,your traditions aren't the same,our language, traditions are similar to Illyrians....Geg, Tosk..is a dialect not a whole diff. nation,you stupidity seems to have no boundries.
Bardh87 1 year ago
@Bardh87 Finally one Albanian person that, claims some kind of historical knowledge !
I have being talking to this other person , a GEG , KTM066 and so far its a waist of time since his not adverse in History . Now ,, to start a whole new conversation with u , i would kindly ask u on 2 conditions 1 , please read carefully my position on the subject ( my previous postings ) 2 ,, refrain from name slurring .
Assuming that this conditions are mutually agreed , i am starting i dialog with u
ideos5 1 year ago
@ideos5 hmm are you serious....you degrade my race and my brothers with your propaganda and claims that hold no water. You try to claim that Tosks and Gegs hate each other but as history showed in BC era and AD era we always lived amongst each other....but even Brothers in the same house fight at times....you have no dialog ...you have nothing to prove your claims...no evidence..Greeks are not Tosks...there is no reason to continue goodbye.
Bardh87 1 year ago
@Bardh87 No man could degrade a race of people, usually degradation starts within a race itself !
Propaganda is a tool to claim something witch is not urs . This video reeks of propaganda when it claims Foustanela is only Albanian !
Tosks are the original inhabitants of Albania, and we Arvanites+Epeirotes were in good terms with them and not with the Gegs .
If u don't want a dialog then refrain from making comments on other peoples postings ,after all,it was u who
wrought me first !!
ideos5 1 year ago
@ideos5 What kind of dialogue do you expect? Waste my time with bullshit?....why do you say WE for Arvanites and Epirotes how are you related to them? Who said to you that tosks and gegs were not in good terms?...since you know so much of propaganda then why use it?.....this video doesn't claim Foustanela is only Albanian but its origin is Albanian just as polyphonic music, etc. I wrote to you to expose your mythological ideology of you being of Albanian(Arvanite) descend.
Bardh87 1 year ago
@Bardh87 I hope by now u realize that Arvanites+Epirotes are racially the same as Greeks ! We are not Hellenisised ,, WE ARE THE TRUE GREEKS , as a mater of fact ?? more Greeks than the Athenians !!!
Yes ,, i admit there is a slight admixture of Dinaric race in us but ? it is only normal after coexisting with you for so many century's,by the same token ,, u also have Greek blood in Ur veins !!
Take a close look in this video ,, ure showing ancient Greek statues to prove the authenticity ,,
ideos5 1 year ago
@Bardh87 ,,, of Foustannela being Albanian !
This is the kind of extrims that some individuals will go in order to advance they're nationalistic aspirations !!
It is immoral and despicable this kind of attitude whether it comes from Albanians or Greeks .
Finally ,,,, Polyphonic music was sinked by Greeks long before the Albanians ! The Dorian's used this music everywhere they went ,from Sparta to Italy to Asia Minor to the Black sea
No mythology ,, read independent sources to find the truth
ideos5 1 year ago
@ideos5 When speaking of Polyphonic music there is no need for me to prove anything...it is already protected by UNESCO.....Arvanites+Epirotes are not the same as Greeks...Just like if my grandchild grows and assimilates into American...he is not the Same as all Americans, all have different backgrounds...get the point? not all branches from the same root...Illyria, Epiri, Emadhia, are branches of Pelasgians...it is said Greeks migrated and adapted beliefs etc from them.
Bardh87 1 year ago
@Bardh87 Polyphonic music is not an Albanian invention, it is still singed in Bulgaria as well as other parts of the Balkans, for example , in the island of CRETE that had no influence wats,oever with Slavs,Bulgarians,or Albanians , this type of singing exists even today continuously for thousands of years ! It,s called RIZITIKA .
So much of Ur boasting !!! case close .
America is a perfect example , when white people moved in to America,they found the local population of Indians,today,,
ideos5 1 year ago
@Bardh87 ,, when one speaks of America ,immediately comes to mind the white Anglo,Saxon people and language that is spoken in this country,forgetting that for thousands of years other people (Indians ) lived and civilized this land !
Dinarics came from Caucasus and settled in north-west corner of the Balkans in 3 waves ,the first took place in 2.000 BC , the second,, after the destruction of the ALBANS in Caucasus by POMPEY, and the third by the Turks that brought Caucasian mercenary's to ,,,,
ideos5 1 year ago
@Bardh87 ,,,subduing the Epirotan resistants .
When this Dinarics came, they found people living in this land, they were the pre,historic tribes OF GREEKS
they were called PELASGOI,DARDANOI,etc,etc, they mixed racially with them an a new people appeared that was called ILLYRIANS .
The racial streinght of THE ILLIRYANS was from what is today Monte,negro and the mountains of SQIPITERIA, and diminished south of the GENOUSOS river .
We, Arbaresh,Tosks,Arvanites,Epirotes , have more Greek genes
ideos5 1 year ago
@Bardh87 ,, than u Dinarics , and we prefer to call our selfs Greeks instead of Albanians ,after all ALBANIA is a name that u people brought from Caucasus and not the original name of the land u live in today .
If u want prove,look Ptolemy's maps and u will see that Albania is in the Caucasus , further , read DIO CASSIUS on ROMAN HISTORY, BOOK 36-40 Page, quot, Iberians dwell on both sides of Cyrnus,adjoining the ALBANIANS on the one hand and the ARMENIANS on the other,,
on page,,
ideos5 1 year ago
@Bardh87 , , page 103 , while he himself directed his course against the ALBANIANS,, page 107 ,, After accomplishing this,and overrunning the country,POMPEY granted peace to the ALBANIANS , and on the arrival of heralds concluded a truce with some of the other tribes that dwell along the CAUCASUS as far as the Caspian sea where the mountains witch begin at PONTUS come to an end .
I could quot u hundreds of different authors , but ? Ur so brain washed with this nationalistic crap in Ur head
ideos5 1 year ago
@Bardh87 ,, that, i don't even want to try !
OH YES ,, I suppose King PYROS of EPEIROS ,spoked Albanian to his soldiers when he invaded Italy ???
ha ha ha Ur such a pathetic Little Albanian !!!!
And QUEEN OLYMPIAS from EPEIPUS spoked Albanian to her son ALEXANDROS ? HA HA HA
Greece has such a rich history that other people such as u are trying to steal , Albania is so poor in history ,we don't nead to steal anything ! Imagine ,, a 100 years back u people had no ALPHABET !!!
ideos5 1 year ago
@ideos5 Arvanites is/was the term used to identify Albanians of Greece...Just as Arnauts is the word used in Turkey and Albania is used in America...So how do you claim yourself to be an Arvanite and say you are not Albanian.....This Tosk/Geg thing is getting me aggravated because you have put so much bullshit in it....yes language does support our theory of being the same nation because we never adopted it from anywhere we kept it....Who said Epirotes spoke Greek??
Bardh87 1 year ago
@ideos5 Strabo writes of how they intermingled with Illyrians as well as Macedons and how they all claimed to be the same because of same tradition, etc. I understand that you GREEKS have no history and its all based on Albanians but now to start saying that Tosks are Greek...is idiotic....Arvanites got assimilated and Qams were kicked out their lands etc...both Tosks..both Epirotes....Qams which are Tosk Epirotes still exist and are Albanian...
Bardh87 1 year ago
@ideos5 this debate based on Dialect is useless....we both know there's nothing there you can use but now that you are all starting to admit the Albanian heritage and great influence on your history etc you want to go and claim that you are all Tosks?? and that tosks and Gegs hated eachother etc.??? even tosk tribes fought each other at times....Albania didn't lie but when it came to a point in time and age where you have to identify your people as one to be recognized in the world it did...
Bardh87 1 year ago
@ideos5 so now honestly....go fuck yourself....just because you had a few Albanians in Greece help you and you stole our history....it doesn't make you one of us..
Bardh87 1 year ago
@Bardh87 GO FUCK MYSELF ???? BRAVOOOOO !!!!!!!
This concludes oure dialog , irrelevant of what u think of me ,i have try ed in all honesty to make u understand that this path of extreme nationalism do not help Albania or Greece , we both are blood related, and are the only ORIGINAL inhabit ans of the Balkan peninsula !
If i wanted to be one of u , i would not spent time trying to convince u i am not .
END OF STORY,, GOOD LUCK TO YOU AND GOD BLES the good people of Albania and Greece
ideos5 1 year ago
@ideos5 fuck you...i have realized these dialogues are useless with you Greek idiots....you never stop with bullshit....Yea Pirro I Epirit spoke albanian/illyrian how else do you think the ruler of Illyria raised him...speaking Greek to him??? See wtf i mean ...so go fuck yourself idiot....get off albanian dick
Bardh87 1 year ago
@Bardh87 What u realized is Ur inability to confront logic and true history !
Usually UN,educated persons such as u have no arguments when they encounter logic and resort to : fuck you, dick head, idiot , etc,etc .
Again,, take a word of advise from a 53 years old man , stop this nationalistic foolishness, if u want to know who u are and Ur interested in history,race,anthropology, read independent authors on the subject.
NOT FROM ALBANIANS NOT FROM GREEKS
UNTIL THEN , I WONT RESPOND 2 U
ideos5 1 year ago
@ideos5 I have read from many independent sources which include present day to the ancient times, i have had my share of classical cultures studies....yet from all the arguments and debates i have had so far with individuals with your mind set and mentality there was never any progress....you and your fellow Greek youtubers have showed your true nature of trying to fabricate and dismantle my history and claim it as your own..
Bardh87 1 year ago 2
@ideos5 this is obviously shown by the time wasted in going through Albanian videos and commenting ridiculous claims without strong evidence....most of you only look to use ancient scripts and not look at any later documents...because of the freedom that you have for interpretation and manipulation of the writers true message, keeping in mind that only less than 1% of ancient scripts have survived...yet when I have cited Strabo, Putarch, etc...you all have ignored them...
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Bardh87 1 year ago
@ideos5 so I have come to the point where I must calmly and straight forwardly say FUCK YOU to all of you and stop wasting my time with idiots like you who are here trying to inform me of my history,why would I need you to tell me who I am and who is my brother or sister, I already know who I am, no need for research.
My race gave the world many great individuals: Kings, Emperors, Generals, Warriors, Saints, Authors etc
Unë jamë Shqiptarë, Alban, Dardan, Epirot, Ilir, Arvanite, Arbëresh etc
Bardh87 1 year ago
@Bardh87 BIGGEST LIAR SON OF WHORE turkalbanian BITCH STOP THE ULTRA PROPAGANDA AGAINST GREECE. AND LISTEN THE TRUTH THE EPIRUS IS CREATIVE OF GREEK KING PYRROS THE ARVANITES ARE GREEKS
ILLIRIANS ARE NOT albanians OFCOURSE
unfukkkmee 1 year ago
@ideos5 You Greeks never talked of Epirotes speaking the Tosk Albanian dialect...After we told you now you have all these theories....all of you Greek individuals have taking too many paths in attempt to steal our history...this is one too many.....at the end we must remember that what you and your other fellow Greek individuals claim is only your opinion and has no tangible or even intangible evidence to support it. Arvanites have mostly assimilated...a true Arvanite would still speak Albanian.
Bardh87 1 year ago
@Bardh87 Epirotes never specked anything but Greek,we Arvanites speak Tosk but belong to an ancient Greek tribe called PELASGOI . The territories the Pelasgian tribe lived started south of Tyrana all the way south in to Greek mainland ! Perhaps u don't like what u read , but u could easily inform yourself if u goggle it !
The very first religious sanctuary of ZEUS was in DODONA ( south Illiria ) and was called the PELASGIAN ZEUS ! This is what we are ! We are rich in history ,we don't have ,,
ideos5 1 year ago
@Bardh87 ,, to steal any nations history to justify aure existence, on the contrary ,, after the creation of Albania after the first world war,, Albanian extreme nationals started to call Arvanites + Epirotes as Albanians .
This nationalism is reflected in Albanian government policies starting with XOTZAS regime,, suddenly and without any archaeological linguistic or historical backing ur are teched in Ur schools as being ILLYRIANS,PELASGIANS,DARDANIANS, as the oldest European nation !!!!!!!
ideos5 1 year ago
@ideos5 listen greek boy, you know who is the oldest country in the europe!, albania and greece is oldest, DONE!! AGREE?!?!?
MergimMafia 3 weeks ago
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@MergimMafia "listen greek boy, you know who is the oldest country in the europe!,"
give us some ancient albanians names then!!
KRONOSELLAS 3 weeks ago
@MergimMafia GO AND CALL YOUR FATHER A BOY ,
Albania is one of the newest country's in Europe and it was created after WW 2
100 YEARS BACK , you did not have an alphabet , and even the alphabet you are using today is Greek !
U claim to be Illyrians but ? true Illyrians are only the Tosks .
Albania is an artificial country , it should be divided in two, NORTH OF TYRANA SHOULD BE CALLED SHQIPITARIA, AND SOUTH , ILLYRIA
Greeks are related to Tosks ,not but not with Gegs
END OF STORY
ideos5 3 weeks ago
@ideos5 you are to stupid!!! motherfucker bitch asshole!! you can just fuck your goddamn mother!!! thats make you better !!!! albania and greece are the oldest country in the europe!!! UNDERSTAND?!?!?! gosshh shame of you!!!!! bitch ass motherfucker gayreek!!!!
motherfuckeeeer
mother
mother
mother
fuckeeeeeeer!!
MergimMafia 3 weeks ago
@MergimMafia IS THIS THE LEVEL OF UR EDUCATION ??
HAVE YOU EVER READ AN OTHER BOOK BESIDES THE STUPID PROPAGANDA OF YOUR COUNTRY ?
ideos5 3 weeks ago
@ideos5 YOU ARE BEING LIKE STUPID PERSON!!! FUCK YOU!!!
MergimMafia 3 weeks ago
@MergimMafia CORECTION ,, ALBANIA WAS CREATED AFTER
AFTER WW 1 ,,,,
ideos5 3 weeks ago
@ideos5 BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA!!!! shut the fuck up!! you dont know nothing, everything you can, it just for monkey, hahahahahha!!!
MergimMafia 3 weeks ago
@MergimMafia BELIVE WHAT YOU WANT ,, I DONT CARE !!
BUT ?? DO YOURSELF A FAVOR ,,,,,,, READ SOME BOOKS
ideos5 3 weeks ago
@ideos5 I KNOW YOU CARE WHEN I SAID IT!!! HAHAHAHAH !!! I READ ALBANIA HSITORY; GHEG AND TOSK AND ETC!!!! YOU GOT IT!!! MOTHERFUCKER BITCH ASS MOTHERFUCKER!!!!
MergimMafia 3 weeks ago
@ideos5 and tosk and gheg are albanian, tosk is not greek, fucking lier, just trying to steal us history!! it's mean, your country is just to be jealous, that albania have power!!! ALBANIA 4 EVER!!! greece for monkey, hahahahhh!!
MergimMafia 3 weeks ago
@MergimMafia YOU ARE JUST A STUPID NATIONALISTIC IDIOT .
I am talking of history, and Ur telling me about power ? What power are u telling me ?
Every time that Albania went to war against Greece lost ! is this Ur power ?
I am a TOSK, so please dont tell me i am the same as a GEG , WE TOSKS of Greece beat the shit out of Gegs+Turks in 1821-24 when you invaded Greece
Greece has a rich history we dont need to steal nothing from Albania, Imagine, even Ur national hero G KASTRIOTIS IS GREEK !
ideos5 3 weeks ago
@ideos5 FUCK YOUUU!! HA are you telling me that gjergj kastriot is GREEK?!?!?!? WTF ARE YOU SAYING FOR ?!?!?!? HE WAS FOR EVER ALBANIAN!!! ALBANIA IS STILL HAVE POWER; SO SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! ALBANIA HAVE MUCH HISTORY TO, AND GREECE ARE STOLEN OUR HISTORY!!! FUCKING LOSER!!! by the way, i dont care about turkey, i care about just for my country albania!
MergimMafia 3 weeks ago
@MergimMafia If u take the time to read the true history of G . KASTRIOTIS u will find that his Father was a Greek DESPOTE and his mother was a SERBIAN Princes .
Now ,,,, it is not only the Greeks that say he was a Greek ,, Italian authors as well as other Europeans are saying the same .
For us Greeks he is a person of minor importance ,, we have bigger hero,s to admire than him .
Stop Ur foolisnes ,, even the flag of Albania is Greek from the Byzantine times
ideos5 3 weeks ago
@ideos5 listen gayreek boy , are you saying that Gjergj Kastrioti was Greek??? WTF?!?!?! are you trying to tricking me out?!?! I read everything history by albanians history, not in internet like you!! we albanians know he was albanian!! you need to wake up dude, and you need to sharpen yourself when you talking about gjergj kastrioti!! he was forever albanian person!!! fucking deaf boy!! You think albania dont have nothing history HA?!?! hahahahah it is allowed to dream hsahhahahahah!
MergimMafia 3 weeks ago
@MergimMafia I AM TRYING TO TRICK YOU ??
No my stupid Albanian friend , i don't care for you ,, everything you wrought so far is nothing than stupidity's ,,,, i told you before ,, read some books before posting ,,, don't you see that you are making a fool of your self along with the good Albanians ? WHAT ARE YOU 14-15 YEARS OLD ???
GO AND SUCK YOUR MOTHERS TITS IDIOT , AND DON'T WRIGHT ME AGAIN CAUSE I WONT ANSWER YOU
ideos5 3 weeks ago
@ideos5 bla bla bla shut the fuck up til i gonna punch your goddamn face!! you can just suck your own mom pussy then hahahahah fucking loser!!!
MergimMafia 3 weeks ago
@ideos5 This is why there is no reason for a dialect....your main agenda seems to be to make it seem as if Tosks/Gegs are not the same....but they are the same...I could speak to you in the Tosk dialect and you wont be able to tell the difference....dialect does not have significance in this topic of Fustanella. The Albanians that helped Greece have been backstabbed instead of being thanked. They have assimilated....& you try to claim that you are of their descend without tradition or language.
Bardh87 1 year ago
@Bardh87 I have no agenda,am just stating the obvious,Tosks+Gegs are anthropologically different, Tosks being of the proto,Mediterranean race,while Gegs are of Dinaric.
Language is not an indication of race,Hungary speaks a Turkish language but racially belongs to the Alpine race,same is truth of Bulgaria( Thracian race)Turkey (proto,Greek,Mediterranean race) Romania speaks an Italic language but are of Germanic,Slavic race !
Ur argument identifying language and race is not valid .
ideos5 1 year ago
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Bardh87 1 year ago
@ideos5 So, this is it ....thats the end of the dialogue...your a 53 year old man who has nothing better do do but try to fabricate history...im a 23 year old who's telling you that you will not succeed and are wasting your time ....believe me....
Bardh87 1 year ago
@Bardh87 Oh believe me i do have a life and and plenty of thing to do !
Visiting utoube i noticed the hatred and extreme nationalistic tendency's that prevail in this sites , i started righting against this tendencies in the hope of making individuals understand that hate and nationalism breeds more hate ! U might think i am against Albanians , not true ! I am also against Greeks extremists and i wright against them as well . I do not want to change Ur believes
but there 2 sides of every coin
ideos5 1 year ago
@ktm066 Stop saying ALBANIANS , u are GEGS not Albanians !
in the Battle of Kosovo Gegs did not fight the Turks , there was a small contingent from the Despotat of EPEIROUS fighting on the side of the Serbians against the Turks . U Gegs were hiding in the mountains of SQIPITARIA .
When Gegs became Islamized ( 120 years later ) u started immigrating in Kosovo, the place names that u mention were given after this immigration
ideos5 1 year ago
jemi tosk dhe jemi geg...jem nje lis por me dy deg....; ) ehehehehehe
Bardh87 1 year ago
WTF IS THIS SHITT.....o i know just some old anti-albanians trying to start a fight between albanian tosks n gegs....lol good try once again wont work...
Bardh87 1 year ago
@ktm066 When you GEGS came in Albania Ur were dressed in Shep skins , Foustanela was already wore by ARVANITES ,1.000 years before you arrived ! Stop you,re idiotic bubbling and find a corner in SQIPITERIA
TO DIE !!!
ideos5 1 year ago
@ktm066 You,r so sick In the head ! you're nationalistic fervor makes us laughter !
According to Ur way of thinking the only good people are the GEGS ! Imagine this !! WAOOOO What did the GEGS contributed to humanity ? Nothing but killings,stealing, and barbarism ,,
TOSKS and ARVANITES are the true Albanians Ur nothing but a Sqipitar,go back in Caucasus where u came from .
Arvanites cowards ? is this why every time you GEGS came in Greece were fucked so badly by us ??
ideos5 1 year ago
@ktm066 Again Ur wrong !
The original country of SQIPETERIA was the mountains of N. Albania , after the great Battle of the Kosovo fields , and when the Turks were in possession of Kosovo ,islamized Gegs came as immigrants in kosovo , and in time they became more numerous than the Serbians having the Turks on there side and massacring the local Serbs ! Today , Albanian nationalists go as far as saying that they are Dardanians just because they live in Ancient Dardania ! SHAME ON YOU !
ideos5 1 year ago
@ktm066 Try to understand what i am righting instead of making me repeat the same things !
When the Turks came in Anatolia they were very few in numbers, the local population ( Greek,Mediterranean race ) adopted Islam and later the Turkish language , their,for,any racial mixing between Greeks and Turks were and are of the same race ! Ur making the same mistake as many un,informed people do ! Ur looking at the present day map and u thing that Greek people live only in present day Greece
ideos5 1 year ago
@ktm066 instead of laughing ,, bahahahaha,, like an idiot, open up some proper books to read and, forget XOTZA,S propaganda !
We ARVANITES ,are the original inhabit ans of Albania , you GEGS are late comers !
You're first immigration in N.Albania was approx, in 2.000 BC , where u found the PELASGIANS ,under,mixed with them ,and adopted the Pelasgian language that was a proto,Greek dialect .
This is the reason that so many words of Ur language have similarity's with ancient Greek
ideos5 1 year ago
@ktm066 Again , read some more !
Illyrians belong to the DINARIC race ,theyre homeland is Caucasus where they immigrated in Europe in approx. 2.000 BC part of this Dinarics settled where todays N.Albania is, where they inter,mixed with the local inhabitans .
Don't be so prude of Ur language , it is still an open question whether Albanian is ILLYRIAN, Linguists are saying we dont have inuf Illyrian words to compare with modern Albanian
We ARVANITES are PELASGIAN, u Gegs are DINARICS
ideos5 1 year ago
@ktm066 Read some proper books of anthropology and not only the nationalistic crap u are teach-ed in Ur schools , Greeks always had a mixed color of hair , long before the Turks arrived in Asia Minor , Homer describes Achilles as KSANTHOS=LIGHT BROWN,and Odysseus as MELAN=dark haired .
Greeks belong to the great Mediterranean race that starts from the Pontic mountains and finishes in Italy ,
The reason that Ghegs have lighter hair is the result of racial mixing with the Slavs
ideos5 1 year ago
@ktm066 This is just one more example of the Gheg prosecution i was telling u and it proves
that we are 2 different races all thought ( as i said previously ) you imposed Ur language on us
ideos5 1 year ago
@ktm066 You would kill us ? ha ha ha
You SQIPITARS have beying trying to kill us for many centuries ! You know what ? WE ARE STILL AROUND !
As a mater of fact , we are more numerous than you pathetic litle Albanians and we want oure land back !
Oure land starts south of Tyrana and is united with Greece .
We are PELASGIANS , we have nothing to do with Albanians ,you people are nothing but thieves and you have no civilazation .
ideos5 1 year ago
@ktm066 Yur such a pathetic litle arshole ,ARVANITES are the true Ilirians and oure ancectors were the proude PELASGIANS tha were tha same race as the Greeks !
The only comon thing we have with Albanians is the language that u people imposed on us begining from the 7nth century and terminating after the mass exodus from oure homeland that u people call Albania today ! This is why today very few of us speak that stupid Tosk dilect ,we speak ure true original language witch is GREEK !
ideos5 1 year ago
@ktm066 Yure not making any sense , who was ruining from who ?
You Albanians always side with the Turks , in Fact you were so scared from the Turks that a majority of Albanians became Islamized ! The Turkish army used Albanian Muslims recruits to slaughter the Christian populations in the Balkans ,Meddle East , and Egypt from the 16 century until 1912 .
No wonder Ur are not liked by Serbians,Greeks,Bulgarians and any nation that u came in contact with !
Albanians are the scum of humanity
ideos5 1 year ago
FUCKING ALBO BITCHES LIARS MENTALISTS LISTEN THE FUSTANELLA IS GREEK
unfukkkmee 1 year ago
If Foustanela is Albanian then perhaps King Arthur was also Albanian ?
Such pathetic Little people !
Foustanela is Greek from times imemorial long before it was adopted by the Barbaric tribes of northern Iliria .
This modern Albanian nationalism will have us believe that George Washington was an Albanian also !
Get alive you people and face the truth , you have contributed nothing in the civilized world and you never will cause you have no culture
ideos5 1 year ago
iapetoc6 1 year ago
@korcaalbania
georgios kastriotis was a greek idiot so leonidas and great alexanter
progonolatreia 1 year ago
@progonolatreia hahahaha go read some other books then those of greeks priests!
MrFustanella 1 year ago
shum bukur!!!!
tissej 2 years ago
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sa bukur, shum e mirr!
ShpresPerShqipni 2 years ago 7
ha ha ha so funny that GAYREEK FAGGOT looks lost, what on earth can he protect he can't even keep his fustanella up, that's because they're not used to it yet...that is something you're not supposed to have cos it's OURS if you want to used ASK POLITELY and we show you how it's worn ok...
A tip for you be careful with that GUN JUNIOR or it might go up somewhere where the sun don't shine.
ORIGJINA E FUSTANELLES ESHTE SHQIPERIA OSE ME QARTE JUGU I SHQIPERISE
germuesi 2 years ago 13
@germuesi Dont under,estimate this lost GAYREEK FAGGOT , his father chased you albanians as well as the Itallians , all the way to Tyrana in 1940 !
His great grand father killed more than 20.000 Tourko,Albanians in DERVENAKIA pases !
In fact , every time you went to war agains Greeks you lost !
ideos5 1 year ago
mu m'plq ajo fustanella deri te gjunjt se ajo qe i ngjan grekve sikur minifund blahhh valla..kjo kong sikur ta ushqen shpirtin, shum e mir..
shiHanny 3 years ago 6
O MikelDedGjoni!
Edhe Shkodra ka pa