Rav Leff - Tisha B'av Night 5767 / 2007 - 1/5

[Hannban31]

The land of Israel belongs to the Jews. If you agree that the Old testament is, or even WAS ONCE true, then you cannot possibly deny it's authority when it designated the land to us. Even if you do, we have legal right to it. We purchased it in the late 1800's from Arab merchants.

[yellowbelly70]

Where in the old testament is such a statement made?

[Tasbah]

There is one reason why there is no peace and truth, and that's because the Jews go against their own religion and god when they claim land that is not theirs and murder innocent children and women. The day you turned again moses and Jesus, that day you showed your true colours and even Jesus warned us against the wicked Jews who think they know better than God.

[EmansDrawkCabym]

gotta watch out for those people who claim a right to land that isn't theirs and murder innocent women and children... oh wait, were we talking about jews or palestinians?? because I seem to remember somewhere that the creator of the universe designated the land of Israel for the jews?

[Tasbah]

If you are a zionist then don't talk about the jewish religion with me, cause you murdered your own to go against he word of the creator. God said you are not allowed to own any land as a punishment so wich land are you talking about? True jews are against the Israeli state of zionism.

[pinm23]

you clearly dont know anything about judaism, the talmud says that if the nations of the world recognize Israel as a nation, then the Jews can have their own gov't, therefore once the UN recognized it, Israel under jewish law is a Jewish state. You honestly think the jews of israel arent true jews? also what does jesus have to fo with judaism? he clearly wasnt a very observant jew, so who cares if the jews didnt follow him?

[Tasbah]

If the talmud is that clear, how come the majority of orthodox jews don't want to own any land in Israel and consider the state of israel a illegal occupation? Go read history and your talmud,,,cause nobody ever GAVE Israel nothing, the zionist racist pigs muredered and stole the land from people who already lived there!

[pinm23]

First of all the majority of orthodox jews do want to own land in israel, the only orthodox jews against it are the satnir hasidim and the neturei karta, whom are a satmar group and they are a minority of a minority in orhodox jewry. secondly, Jerusalem is filled with mostly orthodox jews, and is the largest orhodox jewish city in the world, so u just lied. also u should check the Balfour Declaration for your hisory lesson and the UN resolution of 1948 i think ull see somebody gave israel smthng

[Tasbah]

I lie? It's a fact....just like it is a fact that Theodor herltz the father of zionism was pro Holocaust, and used it to make Europe  take away a land that was NOT theirs too begin with and illegaly hand it over to the Jews. And if Israel is a legal country why is it called the "Illegal occupied territories? The satmar Jews are more Jewish than the majority....like the Askenazi Jews who are NOT real Jews at all.They are like paracite in the Jewish community spreading deseases like Zionism!

[pinm23]

you dont even know what you are saying. satmar jews are ashkenazi, and no jew or genetic scientist would say theyre more jewish. and the illegal occupied territories are the areas the israeli's occupy outside the green line if israel. and regarding ur antisemitic ashkenaz claim, recent testing of the "cohen" gene in ashkenazim link to the same genetic "cohen" as the sfardim. so thats only one of the many proofs ashkenazim are jewish. besides once one converts they're a total jew.

[Tasbah]

They are NOT JEWS Go read the book the thirtheenth tribe...It perfectly explains that the Askenazi jews are not Jewish. It is rather strange that the White Jews accept the fake Jewish Askenazi tribe, But don't accept the Ethiopian Jews. The Ethiopian Jews are not allowed to donate blood in Israel Because the goverment see it contaminated blood. Says alot about Racism and antisemitism. So pleace don't use the antisemite card on me. I can't stand Zionism and The Terrorist state of Israel!

[orimurray]

Jesus is the son of a whore

[demure88]

It is Tishabeav now. I am crying besides the fact that we dont have the beit hamikdash anymore, but the fact we Jews are still in such disunity, another reason why the 2nd beit hamikdash got destroyed

[morehn]

i have two friends who live there.

maybe they were there?

rabbis of mine from yeshiva :D