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  • I don't know how people could think a guy who defends Glenn Beck could possibly stoop to tapping a dead girls phone.

    I loved listening to the testomony today and hearing him and his son claim that all their employees are held to the highest of standards! All I kept thing about was this clip and FOX NEWS, FOX NEWS.

    There are honestly not that many people who I believe the world would be better off if they were ruined or dead but he is definitely one of them. It's sad but unfortunately true.

  • Imagine an Aussie calling somebody a racist...lol.

  • @ShamelessNation lmao, so true...

  • Where's the full interview? And what statement of Obama was Murdoch talking about?

  • how can you be a librale democrat and look at your self in the mirror????

  • This is why you can't believe anything FOX "news" bullshit spews out...

  • What comment????

  • The only thing you can do is not watch, not support and tell others to do the same. They will get the message and ya won't miss anything because there are too many alternatives.

  • Amen. Colon cancer stage 3, please, Lord. Let the man leave this world in the same suffering he has engineered through his wealth influence.

  • i couldn't agree more. considering the sediticous propaganda and evil hatred they unleash over the airwaves, old man Murdoch (and Fox CEO, Roger Ailes) deserve to die horrific & painful deaths, repeatedly.

    what a disgusting man Murdoch is

  • yeah, what Murdoch said wasn't that controversial. I think fox will go down in flames, however, if fox viewers ever get a middle school equivalent education.

  • Murdoch is simply slinging the lowest form of human dirt to gloss over the filthiness of his new channel. Not buying it.

  • Glen Beck was right. Obama hates his white half and his low down black half

  • FUCK FOX NEWS

  • The world and this country will be a better place when Rupert Murdoch is pushing daisies.

  • @whatnowgop He will be replaced by another baffoon. Fox is a corporation and corporations are people so Fox is a person then. Amazing.

  • Defenders of Fox news should be ashamed.

  • @infidelguy Kill yourself slowly.

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  • well to murdoch glenn beck's statement isn't racist because he is a racist himself. and so is fox news. birds of the same feather flock together.

  • Murdoch is bad for Americ and the world.

  • Rupert Murdoch is not even an American, he is an Australian. He should go back to his country and spread his racist lies there.

  • you are so right deadskippy69. he should go home !!! he is trying to model the fox news after the Nazi News propaganda, during the second world war. an if you have seen Beck's new book with him in a Nazi's ss uniform you would thing. that the conservatives thinks that this is Nazi germany.

  • You should open it up and actually read it. Talk about judging a book by its cover. I dare you to read it and see if you can form a decent argument on ANYTHING in it, an argument based on FACTS and not "feelings".

  • People who support Murdoch and those of his caliber only have to look in the mirror and wonder why this coutry is in the tiolet.

  • Only if I stand there and talk to myself about the idiot policies of socialist bambam. Maybe we can look at your post and see why our education system is in the toilet.

  • chainsrgone-Thanks for all of your really intelligent responses. Is all you have baseless accusations about my sexuality and epithets concerning my supposed lack of intelligence? Try staying on topic. Murdoch/Beck/FoxNoise are the ones who'll screw you [and me] in a hot second if there's a buck in it for them. Capitalism is a good thing and I love this country for it except when powerful people [Murdoch] bend and break rules with impugnity and then point fingers at others to obfuscate their lies

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  • Speaking of "baseless accusations", ya might want to check and see who started talking about whose intelligence first. Also, why would I give a crap about your sexuality? Further proof people of your ilk only hear what you want to hear. And as far as Fox News goes, well, you're just full of crap. I see YOU have no problem posting baseless accusations.

  • Yr right. I got so much crap thrown at me by you teabaggers for my comments I lost track. Not you- someone else. But how am I full of crap about Fox News? Dude their not-so-hidden agenda is astounding and so apparent that even you should be able to see it.

  • Funny you would use the same term to describe us as a lot of the liberal media. As far as Fox goes, I know they're slanted and I don't care. Fox News is just one of MANY places I get my info. I don't just slam a news station and boycott them just because they're slanted. I just use my brain and the amazing power of research to sort through it.

  • I calls them as I sees them. You act like a blind, right-wing agitator whose only objective is to win right or wrong. A terrible attitude that permeates the serious social, political and judicial areas in our great country. Might makes right-Oh that's right...A majority of Americans in 2000 & 2004 voted for the other guy yet Shrub still hijacked the office finagling the electoral college. Hm. But Obama wins both popular and electoral and then the unsubstantiated accusations fly. Nonsense. Funny?

  • Yeah, you're nothing but a left-wing hack bringing up the same old crap you've been bringing up for 9 years now. It looks like the libs like you have been even more vicious lately than when bush was president. I'm guessing it's because deep down you know the direction the moron is taking the country and people like you just can't stand to hear "I told ya so!". Here's good news for ya: By the time it all comes down, the internet will probably be run by the gubment so you won't have to hear it.

  • Let's see...fear of communism and basic xenophobia; accusations of attacking your shrines and leaders [while simultaneously drubbing the other sides with less wit and even less information]...Oh you silly right-wing folks just can't see how much you're just like the people you claim to hate and love to mock. How about bringing up Clinton on Fox even after Obama was elected to state how everything was lollipops & roses when your "moron" was in charge. He picked your pocket & you'd lick his balls.

  • Holy crap! You're STILL here? Run along now and leave us grownups alone.

  • Don't believe the hype. This is yet another effort to misdirect the public. All what is happening is Obama continuing Bush agenda by aiding muslims to establishing themselves in the US and taking over. The guy is muslim and he is pushing muslim agenda. So all this "disagreemend" with who said what, is just a lot of fluff. The real issue is you have someone in the Whitehouse who wasn't born here, who is muslim and who will create socialist regeme here.

  • Dont know if Obama is a racist, but I do know he's a lier.

  • When he laugh that means its true, he can't tell the secret he be dead tomorrow morning hehehehehehehehe

  • yes Mr Beaman, this bloke has hoodwinked the American people at large, same as our (joke) I mean bloke downunder.

    And from downunder the chooks are getting restless in the chicken coop.

    Wait till these guys bring out the full commie deck!

    And the red stars on their caps.

  • "Rupert Murdoch says that Glenn Beck was right when he called President Obama a "racist" with a "deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture."

    DUH, look at all his policies, they appear to benefit all the minorities, particularly the blacks. Free stuff paid for on the backs of the working people. That gets him votes like what won him the elections. All lies as it turns out. Make me puke. And I thought we were going to repair the Clinton damage to our country this term.

  • Murdoch is a racist and a fascist. He should be banned from owning anything in the USA and should be a persona non grata.

  • i see a wee bit of jealosy there. Murdoch is a good honest guy and is SUCESSFUL and rich, two things hated by liberals because they live by stealing taxpayer money and living on handouts ( for thier dem votes)

    America was built on hard work, NOT HANDOUTS

  • @compassionrepublican Yes. And everyone knows there's no such thing as good ol' right wing Republican corruption-no, sir. Lying to get poor people to fight a war for control of MidEast oil and line the pockets of the friends of the Carlisle Group [Halliburton, et al]. Stealing money from hard-working citizens to send unaccounted money [skids of it] to a foreign land or pay for Murderous thugs like Blackwater. It's all above board with you guys! Guys like you financed the murder of Huey Long, too

  • Take off your tin hat and get back to us.

  • Sorry that your peanut sized brain couldn't follow but if you read something besides USAToday and watching FOXNews for your entire flow of info you might've known these things. You know when a criminal is lying? Because his story changes everytime he gets caught. How many reasons did they conjure up to go to war with Iraq? 4 or 5-maybe more. WMD's, Hussein gassed his own people, threatened America [all he did under Bush I admin while Rummy was shaking his hand], et. al. Tin hat indeed. U R blind

  • And how many demonrats were fooled by the same faulty intelligence Bush was fooled by? And how many demonrats were talking smack when bubba was president about how we needed to take care of saddam? Get your head out of that toilet paper called the new york slimes and look it up. I'm sure you would be surprised.

  • I don't know the answer to that question. You read so many papers that I'd like you to tell me; How many, which ones, what they said and what day they said it. How many spoke against the war? Don't know that but I do know that 100% were called "traitors" or worse by people like you. And how many elected officials cat-called Bush with "You lie!" when he mentioned WMD's and such, None that's how many. You and your ilk are a bunch of under informed ill-mannered thugs with low self-esteem.

  • "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."

    - President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 (From a speech at the Pentagon)

    "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."

    - Nancy Pelosi (Statement issued Dec. 16, 1998)

  • "There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."

    - Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

  • "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."

    - Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

    "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."

    - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 (Speaking to the Commonwealth Club of California)

  • "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."

    - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 (Speech at Johns Hopkins)

  • "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction."

    - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 (Speech at Georgetown University)

  • Here's another one for ya, turdman: "Fox News is just one of MANY places I get my info. I don't just slam a news station and boycott them just because they're slanted." Sound familiar? Yeah, that's what I told you earlier. I love how lib kool aid drinkers like you go off about the "illegal" war. It's cute.

  • Hey, brainsrgone-Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al cooked up their own [dis]information; They plead their desperate case without even a wisp of truth or thoroughly checking out info they had essentially forced through torture from lower level enemy operatives. They then bullied people [elected Dems among them] with their false patriotism. No true patriot would have put their people or country in harm's way for personal gain. Follow the money and use your common sense.

  • That's why I'm a conservative. Common sense is synonymous with conservatism.

  • Not really.

  • keep up the good fight. Liberal idiots will never stop attempting to rewrite history to justify their sad existence.

  • Right back at ya. Trying to get anything through to a liberal is amazingly like trying to get something through to my 9 year old. The difference is he EVENTUALLY gets it.

  • You as well don't know what a liberal is!

  • I use the term slanderously. Would you prefer "progressive"? Or maybe "scumbag"? Or "immoral"? Just let me know.

  • no, that is just ignorant. It shows how brainwashed you are by the Right propaganda.

  • @jyoung0000 Honestly, I don't really have time to go back and forth with children. I was finished with this dumb crap 2 months ago. Do you have a point besides the one on your head?

  • Fuckin puppet.

  • Ah, and with 2 little words you tell the world more about yourself than I could have in 100. So long.

  • You don't even know what a liberal is!

  • Conservatism = endless repression & control. Had conservatives always won the day mankind would still be tribal, living in squalor with a life expectancy of 32 years. American conservatives wanted to stick with King George in the 1770s.

  • Yeah, shame on us. If it were up to conservatives, the country wouldn't be in debt up to our eyeballs because we actually HELP people instead of getting them hooked on handouts. Yeah......I'm so ashamed...

  • Hahahahaha too funny

  • Kill Whitey.

  • Since to the left only white people can be racist (blacks can't be, not matter how much hate they spew), and Lord Obama (the enlightened one) is half white, he can be a racist according to the lefts definition.

  • It's a sick and twisted world with a lot of sick and twisted people. And all led by the nose by "reverend" sharpton and jackson.

  • One of the richest most powerful white men on the entire planet:

    black people be keeping us down!

  • Rupert Murdock... predatory, Reich-wing, neo-fascist control freak.

    Sarah Palin's ghostwritten book is HarperCollins a Murdock property.

    Murdock and his media properties are the GOP's propaganda arm.

  • That's some cold shit, man. Colon cancer?

    I'm not a fan, but damn...lol.

  • "He did make a very racist comment, ah about, ya know, blacks and whites and so on."

    Nothin' like journalisitc accuracy. You might say 'ol RM is the Picasso of news.

  • Heh well Murdoch isn't a News man, hes a Tabloid man. Anything for the sensational press that sells papers even if you have to make the news.

    Murdoch has tried to stur up Race tensions in NYC some times for news.

  • OK so conservatives actually BELIEVE that Barack Obama is a racist and Glenn Beck isn't? When did Obama EVER say anything racist? Honestly... Obama is surrounded by white people, he was raised by his white mother and her 2 white parents, and supposedly he is some kind of white-hating black supremacist? Give me a break!!! You conservative teabaggers who call him racist are so far BEYOND insane, you make complete lunatics like Gene Ray seem perfectly reasonable by comparison.

  • Agreed

  • Have your read obama's books? I have and as a 30 yr dem I was deeply distubed by his admitted racial issues I do not believe he has fullly dealt with. It was because of his radical beliefs I could not vote for him....first time in my life I voted repub.....so don't say only conservatives are against his radical policies....as a dem with values I find his radical agenda of "social justice"{sic} (it's really just get back at whitey thinking) is not what the dem party stood for!

  • @daisymom4 Radical for all people to have the same playing field? Explain yourself. Fatuous spoiled white people never have a clue and can't explain away their racism. So you're against social justice? Go back to 1956 and throw rocks at teenagers who have the audacity to want an education at your school; Call Thurgood Marshall a "communist". You idiots cannot even explain the difference between communism and socialism or even know what a "progressive" is. But I know what the opposite is-YOU!

  • Harvey3rdman, you are the only one sounding racist.

  • @steelers7thheaven explain that

  • He says it is for all to have the same playing field and if you believe that one there really is no debate. News flash, there is poor people of every color! I wasn't even born in 1956 but electing a black president proved once and for all America has dealt with her race issues, obama hasn't in my opinion (I'm entitled to it whether you like it or not).

  • You have a "public education", don't you..? It shows.

  • Interesting a scumbag bambam supporter like you would knock "public education". CONSERVATIVES have been the ones fighting for vouchers to get kids OUT of crappy public schools. I don't think you even know what you think. Must have been home-schooled. Oh, wait. I'm actually FOR home-schooling. Well, golly gee.

  • conservatives never fights for the small people in this country !!! they are to busy trying to make the rich even more richer !!! and to line there own pockets along with the conservative democrats. the greed really needs to stop !!! it should be about "THE AMERICAN PEOPLE " !!!!

  • Yeah, we should be ashamed of ourselves for not being the ones getting people hooked on welfare, keeping them in an endless cycle of failure for their entire lives. We should be ashamed of actually thinking of others as our equals instead of setting up racial quotas to tell people they they're not smart enough to do things on their own. We should be ashamed for actually HELPING poor people on our own instead of forcing others to do it.

  • Or maybe we should trash those evil school vouchers that would get poor kids out of crappy schools so they can get a decent education. The difference between conservatives and libs is that we DO take care of the poor and for the most part, we do it for God's glory. Most libs FORCE others to do it for THEIR glory. They're helping nothing but their own guilty conscience.

  • @chainsrgone

    you're just ignorant. You think liberals want to help the poor just because of their own guilty conscience? speak for yourself.

  • The truth hurts but yeah, that's pretty much the way I see it. Liberal politicians for the most part don't give a crap about the poor. Just like most republicans, they're looking for votes. As for the run of the mill liberal, well, it's pretty obvious why a lot of them "help" the poor. I can tell every time I hear a liberal brag about it every time he works an hour in a soup kitchen.

  • Listen to yourself dude. Still running off at the mouth about liberals. Through our messages I've easily determined you have no compassion on the poor. Even though you show Biblical Literature on your YouTube page. I won debating you and you imposed a block. You'll never be able to get it through this ignorant staunch conservatives head that SOMEBODY has go to wear the skates at the Sonic Drive-In! You can't handle losing a debate dude. When you chose to post a reply to me, don't run off scared!

  • My post is in response to chainsrgone. He blocked me and run from our discussion. He said he was bored but managed to respond with replies that needed chapters LOL!

  • Let's see:

    a. You first messaged me

    b. I destroyed you by giving stats showing minimum wage isn't all it's cracked up to be

    c. Realizing you had zero facts to support your claim, you changed the subject....NUMEROUS times

    d. If my replies needed chapters, yours needed volumes. I respond when someone makes idiotic assumptions about how they "won" a debate simply because I don't think it's worth my time to respond to every stupid allegation made.

  • LOL! A conservative is always right LOL! I sure am glad that I'm an Independent. Yeah, I change the subject when you wanted me to pity you for having to walk to McDonald's to work and you giving your wife the car. Yeah, I raised other issues that you just didn't want to have to answer. I pointed things out to you like Conservatives using Christianity and family values to gain votes and yet get caught tapping their feet in airport bathroom stalls and Governors making trips to S. America to their

  • And yet you make my point. So basically, you're admitting it. Great job. You know, I still have the messages saved that show exactly how things went down. I could waste the space here to post it all but I think I'll just paste my last response to you. It pretty much says it all.

  • Oh sure! I have the messages also! You're just a hypocrite dude! You wanted to try to shove the last message to me and then block me. What a run away pussy cat LOL! Tell everyone how anybody in this world can make it to where you are in life. Regardless of intellect or low-income up bringing. I know some that don't even know how to dig a square hole lol! But you think maybe that it's their fault? You're 39 and still have a lot to learn. I think you've been watching to much Hannity and O'Rielly!

  • Ooohhhhh.....stereotypes. A copy of my last message coming up. I think I just figured something out. When you were spouting crap about "preferences", I realize why you're claiming to be "independent" yet just as rabid as any liberal when it comes to "conservatives", especially of the Christian persuasion. No wonder you've been acting like a complete nutcase. Yeah, this whole conversation had nothing to do with minimum wage, did it?

  • And here it is for everyone to see: Are you just lonely or something? Holy cow. I tried to stay on topic, but you apparently are just a lonely person wanting some interaction. Seriously, I pretty much proved that you're full of crap. The discussion was about minimum wage. You bit off more than you can chew. Be a man and get over it. Your messages have turned into nothing but the same old "conservative hypocrite" diatribe I've heard from liberals all my life.

  • Continued....If you're this lonely, go out and do something. Ride a bike. Just because you're lonely, it's no reason to waste the time of someone else who obviously has plenty of things better to do. I hate to do it, but since it's apparently the only way to get you to shut up, I'm gonna have to block you. Good luck. Seriously.

  • mistresses. Plus other family valued conservatives always getting caught LOL! At least a Democrat don't care hehe. When I started discussing those matters you got pissed off and blocked me after writing me in return chapter after chapter. My point is this so called Christian. You run your mouth about caring for the less fortunate in our society and post your Christian videos on your page but make excuses why Conservatives shouldn't pass legislation for the past 10 years regarding minimum wages.

  • Wow, you're even more dense than I thought. You're still spouting that minimum wage crap? After all this? You can brag all you want about being "independent" but you definitely have that special kind of ignorance that can only be found in democrats.

  • So I can just see you when you were working for minimum wades (and married) and telling your wife that you understand why you're not receiving a higher wage other than minimum LOL! You're wife would think you're a NUT! Or maybe you can recommend legislation to your congressman for people to rotate every 6 months to a higher position to make all job opportunities available to all workers. All people don't have the same trade skills benefits of education as many do. I'm just a compassionate person

  • Trust me, people don't need anymore of your type of "compassion". Also, my wife understands why an unskilled worker would be making minimum wage. She also understands I did something about it instead of just sitting there and crying about how the gubment owes me a better job. You see, unlike people like you, conservatives believe in personal responsibility as well as helping others.

  • It just makes me sick the way conservatives present themselves as the party that cars. All they care about is trying to impose laws on others that have the ability to make up their own mind about their preferences in life. Just Like the Lord gave us ALL the choice of which path we take in life. If God wanted man to react to his laws the way he wanted them to, he'd make that happen. No, he wanted us to make the choice on our own which would show him our choice to obey his commands. I

  • And who needs chapters? It's hilarious. You're still doing the exact same thing, pretty much proving my point.

  • t's not for the hypocrite Republicans to impose law upon those that they themselves don't obey. But hide behind their own doors of sin. Get real dude and wise up to the world of living!

  • Too bad I'm a republican. Oh wait! That's right! I said I wasn't a republican. You know....like 12 times. Keep the novel coming...

  • Boy....evrything you come back in your messages to me have got Republican written all over them. After exposing Republicans in my post and messages are you swapping parties all of a sudden LOL? In my 1st response to you I asked you did you want to continue the discussion and then you went loopy and blocked me when you had nothing else to support your views. Done Deal my man! If you can only debate one topic, I understand your mentality on your conservative staunch believes of hypocrisy. :>)))

  • Man, I really want to just ignore you but this is too funny. Here's the first few sentences in my first reply to you: "I can see why you sent this in a private message. Jeeze, where do I start? First of all, I'm CONSERVATIVE, not REPUBLICAN."

    Gee, it seems I made it clear right off the bat.Maybe I should write it in crayon or something.

  • Also, yes, I did just "go loopy and block you". That's why the subject line in my last reply to you is: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GOP.....

    The sad thing for me is I'll never win. You're too ignorant to realize just how ignorant you're being.

  • Aw, you still this desperate to find someone to talk to? Get over it. I showed you exactly why your pathetic argument didn't hold water yet you claim to have somehow "won" just because I refused to argue with you about 20 different things? Gee, I wonder why the subject changed. I'm guessing because when you were presented with facts, you really had no case at all. I'll tell you once again, I have better things to do. It's not my fault if your life is this pathetic. Now BE A MAN AND GET OVER IT.

  • You have no character...it shows as well :)

  • How about if I call him a stupid bullshitter instead?

  • The very fact that you gave him a childish nickname is terrible, and a blind goat could see that your racist as heck.

    There's plenty of liberals who dislike Obama, but they still call him obama not NOBLAMAHAMA

  • And I guess I owe you some thanks for proving my point. I should have also added that another thing pathetic libs like to do to avoid a real debate is to mark posts they don't agree with as spam. I should thank you for that too. It makes me feel young, like I'm still in elementary school. By the way, as far as names go, "shrub" anyone? Yep, big surprise. Who woulda thought libs were hypocrites?

  • chainsrgone From your childish name-calling and ignorant comments, it's clear you belong in elementary school, or kindergarten. Your not even good for a laugh. Grow up.

  • I'm not here for a laugh, which seems to be all libs ARE good for. As always, I'm armed with facts, not "feelings". I pay attention to what's going on in the world. Since I'm pretty sure what's coming next, no, I don't just listen to what Fox tells me. I get my info from various sources and actually think for myself. Take a civics lesson and then maybe we can have a grownup conversation. Bacrack has shown from the obvious racist policies he backs that yes, he is a racist.

  • What racist policies?

  • racial quotas, welfare (blacks make up 12% of the population but 34% of welfare recipients), opposition to school choice (of course his girls can go to a private school).

  • ...an EXTRA thank you to the EXCELLANT idea that parents SHOULD be given a School Voucher and then PICK A SCHOOL that they themselves have confidence in!.......(of course the Lib teachers unions would go off their DUNCE CHAIRS ~ over them being removed from the massive unions that are making up 50%+ percent of some State budgets! This would lower costs and create more FREEDOM from leftist tyranny and allow these dead weight pensions to be dumped and kids would learn basic math and skills= HEY!!

  • AMEN. Yeah, unions were a good idea at one time, a LONG time ago, but have they ever outlived their usefulness. The only thing they're good for now is to get socialist reps elected.

  • ....I had someone tell me (cause they are goobs and have no fear anyone can PROVE or prosecute Government workers) ........they're right there=..lol!......that their BOSSES all give them MASS RAISES the year before they retire cause the pension is based off their last highest months salary! And so they are told that SOME people will be having HUGE RAISES cause they are getting set to retire. BUT! Don't feel bad or worry YOU WILL BE NEXT IN THE LINE UP!......so that's how these unions roll~

  • Oh lord, that doesn't surprise me in the least.

  • chainsgone - you can see that someone getting one "pension" is one thing! And when we all had Governments (State and country) no one asked about what these pensions were based off of. Or even cared about them. NOW those evil unions (the same ones voting for MORE RAISE! ..lol!....thats real oversight there ...the fox voting to give him the key to the hen house!) .....and WE ARE ALL BROKE! ....and all of a sudden People are asking "Wheres the BUCK$?" going to?.....& its all going to these unions!

  • so jimmy hoffa was good?? methinks unions have ALWAYS been corrupt. They used to be mainly communist and now they are mainly socialist. However, they are still just the same old handout for votes scheme to elect democrats. Unions destroy productivity and burden the management creating waste and fraud and CORRUPTION...just like most liberal schemes

  • Well, ok. I think the IDEA of unions may have been good at one time before there were federal laws to protect employees. But that was assuming people could handle that much power. Which they obviously can't.

  • good points

  • Right back at ya! I forgot about Hoffa.

  • yeah, repeal the unions and see how fast conglomerates start to take advantage of the working man again. Nanoseconds, dude. Why put up a fence to keep the cattle in and then tear it down thinking "Aw they'll stay put now..." Are you a MORON? Just look at recent stories concerning Nabisco, WalMart, Target, Tyson Chicken etc. And you WANT to give them free reign. Repeal minimum wage act while you're at it. And I ain't laughing or trying to be funny. I'm trying to shine a light on your stupidity.

  • No, I'm not a moron. I just don't drink the kool aid like you apparently have. It's called capitalism, IDIOT. Don't like what wal mart's payin'? GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. There are all kinds of laws protecting workers without the need for workers to DONATE their hard-earned money to get scumbag liberals elected, whether they want them or not. Yeah, unions are awesome. That's why there has to be an organization called Union of Union representatives to protect union workers from their OWN UNION.

  • HOw come CEO's get capped but an athlete, actor, or rock star doesn't in obamaland? Same playing field yeah right! Is that why none of congress will be on obamacare, including obamacorn himself!

  • I don't think harv can understand logic. Don't ask him questions like that, his head will explode. Then again...

  • Wanna "name names"? How about the seiu, who spent so much money getting bambam elected, they had to fire 75 of their employees? Man, that's definitely takin' care of people. This is me shining a light on something of yours that bypassed stupidity loooooong ago.

  • Where did u get those "facts"??? A problem with the internet is peeps like u that make statements without facts... I believe when comments like yours are made it reflects that century old problem of those that have a public educations--this is why we have sickos'.

  • Interesting you would make such a stupid statement on something that's so easy to verify. I wouldn't be so quick to start knocking others people's "public educations" when you make idiotic statements like that. Look up union of union representatives. You'll find all you need in the first few links. By the way, are you a bambam supporter? It seems VERY ironic you would be so against public education when CONSERVATIVES like me are the ones fighting against it.

  • Not to mention, how smart does a person have to be to say, "a public educations"? Also, the correct wording would be, "those WHO have". Furthermore, the word "sickos" doesn't need an apostrophe. And not only is it bad grammar to type "u", it's pretty lazy considering you only need to type out two more letters to type the complete word. Maybe you should get an English teacher to look over your crap before you start knocking the education of others.

  • ..thank you ~ chainsrgone ~ for suggesting FACTS come into some of these discussions!

  • No problem :)

  • Not to mention, he was schooled in racism at least for the past 20 years from his RACIST "preacher". Or how about, "I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race." ? Or how about his "stupidly" stance when his RACIST professor buddy made RACIST comments to a white guy who was only trying to do his job? Or refusing to prosecute RACIST black panthers?

  • The Black Panthers were not racist.

    If they were there wouldn't have been a "white Panther" movement of white peopel who supported the Black Panthers.

  • Try looking up NEW black panther party. While the ideas of the original black party were racist, the ones trying to intimidate people at polling places were the NEW black panther party and the bambam admin refused to prosecute them.

  • "Not one of our people"

    WTF?

  • Uh huh. After 43 Presidents now people are wondering about racist people in power?

  • Heh yeah what a trip.

  • murdoch and his conglomerizem is beginning to become a problem.

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