Drop Farm Expansion Tutorial

[CoLDxxBlooded]

What needs to be 38 block from spawner the base for this layer or the the fences?

[xisumavoid]

@CoLDxxBlooded The fences :)

[zoggeris]

@xisumavoid You should challenge Generikb in his Redstone Wars! ;)

[xisumavoid]

@zoggeris I did :)

[zoggeris]

@xisumavoid Did he accept?

[xisumavoid]

@zoggeris He said he had a lot of other ones lined up, so hopefully in the future :)

[Animuldok]

on the Endermen dying... maybe they are taking some suffocation damage when they fall through the shifting floor... being a block taller than the other mobs they may get "caught" when the block is in its new position... just a thought

[xisumavoid]

@Animuldok Thats exactly whats happening :)

[TheMinecraftDan]

I just wish I can subscribe you again... >:(

[xisumavoid]

@TheMinecraftDan Aww :)

[TheMinecraftDan]

@xisumavoid Hey xisumavoid, can you make a video/tutorial on an efficient Mushroom farm? :)

Thanks. :D

[xisumavoid]

@TheMinecraftDan I want to, i have a big lsit of tutorials to do and thats on there ;) No idea when though

[Blastin22turnips]

great vid but can u up the volume please :D?

[xisumavoid]

@Blastin22turnips Got a new mic now :)

[TheTardis34]

A good and effective design! Your looking to become a redstone champion at this rate!!! :D

[xisumavoid]

@TheTardis34 hehe thanks dude :)

[koolace88]

The next Kieshar? or the next Ethoslab? Most likely the next Sethbling. Xisumavoid is rising into the youtube fame of Minecraft Redstone Masters. Keep up the great work Xisumavoid.

[xisumavoid]

@koolace88 hehe thanks buddy :D

[h4rdcore4]

Endermen die because they take a little suffocation from falling through the pistons I think. My theory anyway :)

[xisumavoid]

@h4rdcore4 Your theory is correct :)

[wvboltslinger40k]

Yes this is correct, because if you spawn Endermen on the first level they don't take enough damage to die.

[xisumavoid]

@wvboltslinger40k I spawned them on the first level and they died :S

[wvboltslinger40k]

@xisumavoid I havn't been able o replicate that yet. so far when i only have the one layer of the mob spawner the Endermen survive. What difficulty are you on?

[xisumavoid]

@wvboltslinger40k Difficulty only effects there attack strength right?

[wvboltslinger40k]

@xisumavoid Yea, for some reason I was thinking it also affected the mobs health. In any case I've now built this spawner in two of my solo worlds and on my private server and it works like a charm in all three (though the lag is something awful on my server, but that's to be expected when hosting and playing on the same machine)

[xisumavoid]

@wvboltslinger40k Thats great man :) Good to hear it works on your server :)

[TheCubingProject]

I couldn't figure out how to hook up the redstone clock controlling the fence posts and the 1st floor of the mob trap together so they shifted in time with each other:( any help would be cool:)

[xisumavoid]

@TheCubingProject Download the map and see for yourself ;)

[TheCubingProject]

I was building this today and when I finished it I cpu

[xisumavoid]

@TheCubingProject Awsum dude :)

[xGravityz]

Best tutorials ever. Please keep making more. And maybe even building structures tutorials??? =D

[xisumavoid]

@xGravityz I will keep making tutorial ;) Check out my box buddy Keralis for building, he is a great architect :)

[Matt71m]

could you just use fences with water on them?

[xisumavoid]

@Matt71m Endermen will teleport away ;)

[antismatic]

Your approach to tutorials is refreshing and clever. Keep up the good work!

[xisumavoid]

@antismatic Thanks dude :)

[theflyingpen]

this is absolutely great, i had a lot of doubts when i saw it was just dark based for mobs but it pumps mobs out quite fast from all of the levels

[xisumavoid]

@theflyingpen :) Yea its one of the better mob spawners imo :)

[912Nightmare]

male exp grinder =3

[xisumavoid]

@912Nightmare exp is on the way :)

[barronzaren]

@xisumavoid Dude, you are a genius.

[xisumavoid]

@barronzaren Thanks buddy :)

[comicsce10]

Hey Xisuma, i'm not very sure what you're saying about the endermen.. Do you mean you have to build your mob spawner higher than normal? And if so, wouldn't that lower the spawn rates?

[xisumavoid]

@comicsce10 With the endermen im just pointing out the the theory and practice behind this means it shouldn't work, but it does, some people think they take suffocation damage which is why they don't survive the drop :)

[xConnorGillan]

I've seen a similar design by 'hypnotizd' I think he goes by, it's a good design but have the mobs AI changed with the newest snapshot?

[xisumavoid]

@xConnorGillan Yea when new mob ai comes in we will need a new spawner system :)

[TheChrispCast]

Can I use any of your creations in my upcoming lets play

[xisumavoid]

@TheChrispCast Of course you can dude :)

[Rayquinox]

is there a good way to use this mobspawner and collect the mobs together (including the endermen) without them dying, in order to seperate them later in a system (first the endermen ofcourse, because they cant be transported in water)?

[xisumavoid]

@Rayquinox You can do that with a piston pusher setup :) Its expensive though!

[Rayquinox]

@xisumavoid hmm.. i can see that happening, but then you would need a layer by layer getting smaller and smaller system if you dont want mobs spawning in the middle of the system dying from falldamage if you use a cone shape for the piston push setup... and of course they will all be damaged from falling so you cant deliver them with an exact health percentage to use for exp grinders.... endermen make these things so difficult, there need to be blocks that negate fall damage!

[xisumavoid]

@Rayquinox Yea i agree it would be nice to have more "function" blocks, but i doubt its what mojang want to do...

[Khatanmurun]

I really love the layer by layer thing, it's easier and takes less time to follow along.

[xisumavoid]

@Khatanmurun Thanks dude :) Thats why i do it that way! :)

[Cloudnine011]

Thumbs up if you think that @minecraftpg5 and @xisumavoid should work together and create THE ULTIMATE REDSTONE DEVICE!

[xisumavoid]

@Cloudnine011 We could make a redstone machine that makes redstone machines :P

[martincharles07]

@Cloudnine011 etho and docm sould toooo

[DavidMinecraft]

Could you do a redstone mycelium farm? or slime farm?

[xisumavoid]

@DavidMinecraft mycelium farm > place mycelium next to dirt and put torch on top ;)

[EgoKllR54]

Dude has anyone evertold you your a genius? If not. YOUR A FUCKING GENIUS.

[xisumavoid]

@EgoKllR54 lol thanks buddy :)

[1fail2you]

damn that is hardcore. good good making that. subscribed ans liked

[xisumavoid]

@1fail2you Welcome aboard :)

[TheBuenoBear]

I love it, but I lags like hell

[xisumavoid]

@TheBuenoBear If you make the rooms narrow you will be using less pistons, and it will reduce lag :)

[AurallWow]

Love the layer by layer thing too! :D

[xisumavoid]

@AurallWow Cheers :) Its my own unique approach to tutorials :)

[martincharles07]

@xisumavoid THE layer by layer is soo hard to follow

[martincharles07]

@AurallWow the layer by layer is soo hard to follow

[xisumavoid]

@martincharles07 Sorry to hear that dude :( Try pausing the video!

[HelloHelloHelloHell5]

Very nice tutorial

[xisumavoid]

@HelloHelloHelloHell5 Thanks buddy :)

[AurallWow]

The trick with trapdoors is that they do the same as signs, by tricking mobs to walk over an edge. The advantage is that trapdoors aren't entities in the game, thus they create no lag. No pistons needed. Mobs move a little upon spawning, which virtually always results in an instant kill by falling. Highest rates I have ever had due to quick death/respawns. Screenshot provided.

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[xisumavoid]

@AurallWow Thanks dude, such useful info :) No doubt i will do some testing and see what i can make ;) Thanks again!

[emmick82]

Congratulations, you've perfected the art of the Minecraft tutorial. Reminds me of Lego instruction booklets, the way you go layer by layer like that. Great stuff.

[xisumavoid]

@emmick82 Thanks dude :) Im sure i will find ways to improve even more though :)

[sominchill]

@xisumavoid true thats annoying

[legobmw99]

Maybe they die from a shorter distance due to some suffacation they take in the spawner

[xisumavoid]

@legobmw99 Yea that could be how :)

[OutcastAngelV]

the item drop area is over-complicated. You can put water dreams on top of fences and have the mobs still die, making the whole contraption kind of pointless to my knowledge

[xisumavoid]

@OutcastAngelV Your forgetting about endermen ;)

[OutcastAngelV]

@xisumavoid yea but if they fall a large enough distance, them hitting water doesnt matter.

[xisumavoid]

@OutcastAngelV They teleport away before they hit the water :/

[OutcastAngelV]

@xisumavoid hm, well damn, when i tried it a while back they didnt, though im sure its changed and youre right. got a mic (all be it shitty for the moment) for the server by the way

[xisumavoid]

@OutcastAngelV Awsum man! I want to do some SMP super hostile soon :D

[TheAwesomeWWEfan]

Hello youtube in a peaceful way :P

[xisumavoid]

@TheAwesomeWWEfan Thats me :)

[TheAwesomeWWEfan]

@xisumavoid yea :D btw awesome video :)

[xisumavoid]

@TheAwesomeWWEfan Thanks :)

[TheAwesomeWWEfan]

@xisumavoid you welcome

[sominchill]

@xisumavoid i just watched through this and thought it would create a lot of lag on some computors and i thought maybe you you put water above the fence posts to push the drops this would work cuz the fencepost is 1.5 blocks high so when the mob hits it it dies and the drops get pushed along now even though this means the drops might fall through the fence posts you can have another water stream under them to push any drops that fall through the fence post :) was just a quick idea i had so yeah

[xisumavoid]

@sominchill Thanks for the feedback dude, problem is this wont work with endermen ;)

[martincharles07]

@sominchill the enderman will teleport away from the water in this setup the enderman dies then the loot gets pushed

[careytilden]

Your tutorials are very instructive, bravo. I've noticed you have discussion at the end of some videos, where you talk about how the mechanisms work and some of the tradeoffs. I would heartily encourage more of that, it's my favorite part of those tutorials!

[xisumavoid]

@careytilden Thanks buddy :) I was actually unsure about the chat at the end, i didn't have much to say this time, but ill keep it in mind ;)

[TheZebybez]

I'm not only here for the tutorial, but for the amazing ideas or workouts of ideas aswel. I'm always amazed by MC's possibilities

[xisumavoid]

@TheZebybez The sandbox gives us infinite gameplay too :)

[Keralis]

Likes alot, and damn that is pretty high for an enderman, 44blocks? It is the a tower full of wrath. :)

[xisumavoid]

@Keralis Yea its surprisingly high, but then they are a strong mob.... can't wait to see you encounter one in your LP :)

[casper5314]

cool vid but.. if you let mobs fall on a fence with water on top it will just die.... just saying.

[xisumavoid]

@casper5314 Doesn't work with endermen ;)

[martincharles07]

@xisumavoid can people stop saying that

[martincharles07]

@casper5314 ppl stop saying that he probably knew that but the enderman would teleport away contact

[macleanwright]

so this does work with endermen or it doesn't?

[xisumavoid]

@macleanwright Yes :) You can see them in the video ;)

[steve0face]

Could the endermen be taking suffocation damage on the way down?

[xisumavoid]

@steve0face Great theory! that could be it :)

[martincharles07]

@steve0face yeah duh

[TheAmmOmatic]

@xisumavoid Well that gives me a challenge. Gonna build one of that spawners.(Btw your tutorials is the best :)

[xisumavoid]

@TheAmmOmatic Thanks dude :)

[Killisen8]

Hey, Nice One

[xisumavoid]

@Killisen8 Cheers :)

[coplaniuk]

Could the same timer be used for both the spawner and the drop farm?

Debating about implementing this design into my 1.1 world (of which I do not yet have an item farm). I'm somewhat waiting to hear what the community says. @UnfortunateMisstep suggested a lava pad...any reason that wouldn't work?

[xisumavoid]

@coplaniuk Mobs swim in lava ;) Yes the timer can be used for both :) and about implementing it well... we all know mojang don't like mob spawners :( They will probably keep trying to break them...

[Biffa2001]

Nice design, might add a tiny version of that to my mob trap! :-)

[xisumavoid]

@Biffa2001 Awsum dude, how long till we get some more redux?

[Biffa2001]

@xisumavoid You Sir may expect one tomorrow* :-)

* baring natural disasters or alien invasion!!

[UnfortunateMisstep]

You could have the mobs fall thru a lava layer, then you don't need as high a drop and the endermen get killed more consistently. I generally only need 4 blocks drop below my bottom pad to place the lava for them to fall thru without trying to swim up. The pad keeps out the light.

[xisumavoid]

@UnfortunateMisstep Mobs swim in lava ;)

[jjp600]

to fancy for me derp

[xisumavoid]

@jjp600 :P

[TheAmmOmatic]

I wanna build that 1.1 style mob systems but i fear them getting wrecked in the coming updates..

[xisumavoid]

@TheAmmOmatic They most likely will. Its very frustrating that the game is still being played around with even though its now a full game.... oh well its minecraft :)

[supercrazybelgian]

where did you get the idea of the fencepost drop control thing

[xisumavoid]

@supercrazybelgian Its a block that has a smaller hit box :) Thinking about it now, glass panes would have been cheaper :)

[sladikk]

I downloaded your previous mob trap, but I couldn't handle the lag. Is there any way to reduce the amount of redstone?

[xisumavoid]

@sladikk Yea just make your spawn room narrow and you will be using less pistons at once :)

[Trugbildjaeger]

@AurallWow endermen;)

[HDSmithy]

lol come and build that on my server ha ha. as always great tutorials there some of the best ive seen to date on mob spawners

[xisumavoid]

@HDSmithy Thanks buddy :) Sorry i can't come to your server im always busy dreaming up these ideas for videos :)

[AurallWow]

There really is no need for the moving fences at the bottom. Water flowing over fences will still make mobs drop to their deaths and transport items at the same time. Why the noisy and overly complex piston design? :p

[xisumavoid]

@AurallWow Your forgetting about endermen! :)

[AurallWow]

@xisumavoid Hmm, my own fall trap has a minimum of 24 blocks of falling for normal mobs, which kills them instantly. Only the upper floors have room for endermen, which die due to the higher falling distance. Trapdoor fall trick, by the way. No pistons required. :)

That way you have room for more normal floors, yielding a larger loot amount, with only a small loss in the amount of pearls. (which you don't require large amounts of anyway, or you simply create a trap floating in The End)

[xisumavoid]

@AurallWow So whats the trapdoor trick? haven't heard of that one. Also you can build this with different size rooms if you wanted to optimize space for the 2 high mobs :)

[martincharles07]

@xisumavoid no he isnt

[Biffa2001]

@AurallWow I found that sometimes drops will get stuck on fence gates under water :-(

[andy93h]

i love the way you do tutorials

[xisumavoid]

@andy93h Thanks dude :)

[SokarEntertainment]

Decent job, as always :)

[xisumavoid]

@SokarEntertainment Thanks :)

[Trugbildjaeger]

@xisumavoid I really have no problem with you making tutorials of stuff you make. I was just hoping you have come up with something better. Sadly I was dissapointed, and this is the mobtrap I was able to build 1 month ago. My design is based of Masontic's design. I'm sorry I forgot who made the thing you made in this episode.

[xisumavoid]

@Trugbildjaeger There are lots of people making the same things, i can't watch them all

[keegamii]

I read the title wrong, I thought it said Drug Farm Expansion hahaha!

[xisumavoid]

@keegamii got something on your mind? :P :)

[mathmatze]

I always like your tutorials, the system with layers is very good!

[xisumavoid]

@mathmatze Thanks dude :)

[Csipike64]

Nice, I'm going to watch all of your videos, because I want to search a mobspawner without using redstone, for my SkyBlock map.

[xisumavoid]

@Csipike64 There is one for that on my channel :)

[Fishy07x]

I downloaded the map, and you inplemented my pillars :D Thank you!

[xisumavoid]

@Fishy07x NP dude ;) It makes a lot bigger difference than i thought it would :)

[TheRealBulluk]

"moincraft tutorial" :3

[xisumavoid]

@TheRealBulluk hehe yea im having a funny day with words :)

[Trugbildjaeger]

This was already mad by someone, its not a new invention just like your mob spawner isn't:/

[xisumavoid]

@Trugbildjaeger It's highly logical that someone else would of had the same idea to make a platform with fence posts, however, now you have a quality tutorial to help you build it :)

[Schknheit]

Nice trap!!!

[xisumavoid]

@Schknheit Thank you :)

[MrNickmand]

awesome!!!!

[xisumavoid]

@MrNickmand :)

[chrrrisbrrrown]

great tut mate CHEERS

[xisumavoid]

@chrrrisbrrrown NP dude :)

[MEsfer1234]

First reaction!

Cool vid btw.

[xisumavoid]

@MEsfer1234 Thanks :)

[desertplayer1]

first

[DjMusicWille]

@desertplayer1 Last!