SSBM - Cruel melee - samus immobilization trick

[megaman874]

and i tough i was pacent O_o

[XTCiswhatIneed]

time took?

[stelzig]

@XTCiswhatIneed

Description: "Took me between 20 and 25 hours to complete the full run."

[XTCiswhatIneed]

@stelzig i failed (europe version) at doing this with samus - rolling back with samus didnt affect what was shown in vid.. why?

btw.. thumbs up if you still play melee!

[stelzig]

@XTCiswhatIneed

The trick with samus is a bit weird. With some characters you can just jump up and roll, but with samus you have to be there before they spawn or it won't work properly. That's why I kill 5 frames "normally" first, so make sure you do that first - you can see my strategy for that in the beginning of the video too ;)

[XTCiswhatIneed]

@stelzig ah i see ok thank you - one question more - where are you from (if im allowed to ask)?

[stelzig]

@XTCiswhatIneed

You can find this kind of information on my profile :P

I'm from Denmark :)

[XTCiswhatIneed]

@stelzig ah sry, i see, dumb me xdd

i thought you are german or austrian because of your username.. coz im austrian.. ;)

verstehst du diesen satz? (english: du you understand this sentence?)

[SmashDenmark]

@XTCiswhatIneed

Ja, ich verstehe, lol... My german sucks though.

And it's actually my lastname, and it's supposedly czech even though, it does look german yeah. :)

[XTCiswhatIneed]

@SmashDenmark hhaaha thats insane XD

ah i see - so you changed now xpp

[Navnroid]

@SmashDenmark

Hej Lars, lad nu være med at bruge SmashDenmark til at svare på alt muligt mærkeligt D:

[CHAOSYOSHIX]

Posted on smashwiki XD

[Drewford17]

Wait, the kills.... THEY'RE OVER NINE THOOOUUUSSAAAAAANNDDD!!!!!

[lolzoretwo]

what are the criteria for this trick?



[stelzig]

@lolzoretwo

You need to stand on a specific pixel of the edge (for some characters like samus you can roll to this), and the opponents that aren't on a lower platform or the same platform will be unable to move. There are some other situations where they will also move or be unable to (or just move oddly), but this is the gnist of it and the rule on this level.

When you see the female frames roll onto the stage after falling off for instance they will not (continued)

[stelzig]

Jump far enough, but drop below the platform and stand still there. That's why i shoot it again when this happens.

[SSBBFFA]

that proves that sonic & tails aren't in melee

[thomasdfghj1]

er du dansk?

[stelzig]

@thomasdfghj1

Ja

[MonkeyDeKatana]

Do you know if I could find the song you played on youtube? I dunno exactly what to search x.x

[stelzig]

@MonkeyDeKatana

Search for "diverse targeting"

Maybe also "gramsespektrum"

[MonkeyDeKatana]

Thank you very much. =D

[mrm64]

dude it musta been BORING to do this. BOOOORING! lol you get over 9000 stars.

[HxCmaniacPunk92]

thats endless melee u fucking liar lol they would of kicked your ass if u just sat there and charged up a smash

[stelzig]

Go try using those moves in endless melee on the wireframes and then you might realise who's stupid here lol.

And read the title as well might help too. "immobilization trick" wink wink.

Besides the CPU acts the same in both endless and cruel melee only difference is handicap/power on moves and the fact that there's items in endless (oh did you notice items are not present here? Funny thing is those items actually make endless HARDER than cruel for samus)

[gamingpro1000]

uh you cant get sonic in melee

[xthedragonsmasterx]

over 9000 still no sonic :(

[substandardlives]

@xthedragonsmasterx i'm glad someone remembers that april fool's prank from EGM.

[GBallaJ]

what is the song?

[STAstron]

genius^^

[JalouxQQQ]

lol, musikken er ikke "danish mafia bs", det er gramsespektrum :P

Cool video, underlig bug

[stelzig]

Jeg ved sku godt at det er gramsespektrum. Stadigvæk danish mafia bs :P

[JalouxQQQ]

hehe okay, synes bare ikke de er særlig mafia ^^ måske lidt i den sang...

[zabeon]

Cool!

[Zeupar]

IT'S OVER NINE THOUSAAAAND.

[Slashtap3]

Shoot I was going to say that

[TheRealDJLO]

fucking epic. using this for 15 mm

[HTStivoWonder]

HEEYYYYYYYYYY Im a smasher from Flensburg in germany xD I live right next to the border to denmark

og jeg kan smakke dansk LIDT!! ^^

I would LOVE to play Melee with u guys...

I HOPE U READ DIZ!!! ^^

400320125 <-ICQ

[skalicous777]

you needed about 20 hours for the whole run? O_O

[DarkLordAce3]

Are you sure some of it wasn't indian BS?

[stelzig]

No, however it was supposed to be with an indian accent so i guess the creators of that song can take that as a compliment :P

[DarkLordAce3]

I think I've seen you on GameFAQs on the MoH forums. Am I rite?

I could recognize some hindi words, I'm indian...

[stelzig]

Possibly 1 or 2 words, but it's mainly actually just danish.

I know they also say oui (french), au au revoir (french) and da (russian) so it isn't completely danish, but yeah :P

Yeah i'm on the MoH gfaqs boards.

[DarkLordAce3]

Unless the languages are similiar =O

[kibou10]

hvad hedder sangen ?

nice :D

[stelzig]

Diverse targeting

Fra P3 tjenesten :P

[kibou10]

ok takker =)

[outofdashdwz]

Wow... I hope you got some sleep in between.

[stelzig]

Yeah this was played over about a week. 10 days or so i think :P

[Matroix]

I can't believe this did this over and over again, all the way to 10,000!

Ali-A

[Krishna227]

NICE

[Naregoesrawr]

fack the music is cool!

wuts his nme?

(vid is cool too)

[heavencharge987]

i cant beat even 1 and i need to kill 5 -.-

[stelzig]

Heh. Well to beat 1 there's a few simple tricks. Like just holding up and tapping A with ganondorf :P

To get 5 i suggest you try doing the pikachu strategy. Just search for "pikachu cruel melee" :)

[heavencharge987]

thanks but i alrdy found out the roy up b tactic worked great thanks anyway

[DarkFlamerz]

so the sonic trick was fake.....nahh im just kidding obviously it was

[Lucario907]

i found one that said you get knuckles if you K.O. 30 with Falco

[tayashi]

impressive :D

[RouynWallOfDeath]

Omg .. love it

[NeotyKairyu]

I did the same thing but they still move!

[wariobrother]

you rules

[EineVampyrDesGrauens]

someone tell me how this is done

[Hitman22104]

wow my sister is being mean ouch! *muffling help im immobilized*

[kdna11]

nice job bro...

congratulations for the record:)

up ssbm and ssbb !! =)

[LordAdib]

I like this Danish/French rap stuff! What are the names of the songs and who sings them? :D

[stelzig]

It's actually only one song :P

It's called "diverse targeting" and it's by a satire radiocrew callled "tjenesten"

[tyrcd]

um...how freakinhg long did it take you to get this far?

[Getaro]

I looooove the music!

And how you tant in 00:20 when you are on the right frame to get the glitch it's so hilarious! XD

AWESOME vid!!

[SuperSaiyanAl]

Sooo...if there's still any believers out there, let this assure them that Sonic is NOT unlockable in Melee. :D

[Fronzel41]

You did this for 25 HOURS?!

Why?

[stelzig]

To get the record >_>

I would've kept it going if it wasn't because i was going to Finland. I didn't play 25 hours straight. I used several days on this.

[bobolimpa]

svenne pelle, du kan svenska

[bajenejab]

du ska dö! du har ätit din sista baguette monsieur

[Maxywaxy60]

Don't read this comment. It's marked as a bad comment! Horrible video, and you suck!

[coeyman1]

wait how do you do the glitch?

?

?

[zuttinater]

how do you get the guys on the top platform to stay?

[Psytheslasher]

thats part of the glitch if you get the bottom two over their your set, then all you need to do is hit the other two in their predictable pattern.

[shadowsofshadow]

i like the video the music diffrent story O__o so can you get sonic fromo getting 20 kills?

[sheepysheep1]

not in ssbm but i think in ssbb

[TheCrazyKip]

In SSBB, he's a offical character.

[shadowsofshadow]

ok who downed this comment?

[Damnitkal]

noob

[shadowsofshadow]

guys stfu with all these bad commets if you dont like the video dont wach it you dumbasses

[midnalover99]

yah i agree with this guy im also against this kind of stuff. it's called POORSPORTSMANSHIP!

[alecjanus2000]

Something called a glitch god

[3choist]

this is not cruel melee you noob >__>

could't resist XD

[babyblue809]

this shit aint cruel man this is to easy cruel they chase ur ass down till ur out ass is done!

[stelzig]

... Name 1 other mode where a wireframe will not die from a full charged B shot.

[HUGENIG808]

stupid faggot

[Fosius]

fucking n00b

[TheKaliche]

Charge beam kill one shot a non-cruel frame.

There's something called GLITCH.

[TennisGvy]

20 hours? I hope you didn't play it 20 hours straight =/

[conexion11]

about the video Cruel melee immobilization Ness, Samus and Ganondorf

yes I know

this video not is my

I'm just upload

[conexion11]

sorry

[stackodude1]

Action Replay duh!

[TheKaliche]

What about a glitch, you fool!

With Action Replay you only put there, he have to do that mae make glitch.

[Sterlin876]

if you can get that many KOs without the glitch I give you some serious props

[stelzig]

If you can get just 1000 KOs with this "glitch" i'll give you some serious props.

Obviously i'm using because it is the current best strategy there is, but it's really not as easy as it seems.

[huntinater6k]

how long were u sitting and playing that round

[TheCaliche]

What do the song says in 2:41-2:47

[LasperFTW]

Jeg ta'r min kalashnikov, din nar. Bang bang, zida-dadada

Which means, I'll take my kalashnikov, you fool. Bang bang, zida-dadada.

[stelzig]

It works with them, but their attacks are very weak and the frames will sometimes DI their attacks. It is much harder to get many KOs with them and just getting 1 could take like 3 minutes.

[bajenejab]

hah okey sorry, but in swedish it's dö ;)

[bajenejab]

wow they sing in swedish, on 01:14 he sing "du ska dö! it means "you're gonna die"!

[stelzig]

Hehe.

No it's not swedish. it's danish (And is spelt "du skal/ska' dø" :P). Swedish and danish sounds alot like each other though. Same with norwegian :)

[stelzig]

Oh yeah, and a more exact translation would be "you must die" =P

[Justerbuster89]

but nevertheless, awesome.

[Justerbuster89]

what a horrible waste of time. :|

[TheCaliche]

I am addicted to that song.

[Matanumi]

lol to the music...

man... ppl still waste there time on this game? w/e you got past 20... thats all I care about

when was this discovered?

[3htnot]

that a world record?

[stelzig]

2nd. It's the PAL record. Someone got 46xxx in NTSC where you can do a faster strat :)

[parasite12]

thats not cruel melee -_-

[stelzig]

Yes it is -_-

[TheCaliche]

It is cruel melee, 3 reason:

1. No items.

2. It is stupid make this glitch in others Multi-man melee.

3. In all the times that he is there, he can't move or ruin the glitch, so when a bomb appear on his area: GG.

[Nintendoman134]

whats that stupid music you put

[ssbm4ever]

why didn`t you tape like 9990-10000 with the suicide ? =)

[stelzig]

I did, but i must've lost it somehow. This is the most recent i have on tape. Probably because i did the last 500 in the morning before going to Finland. I got to 10K like 10 minutes before leaving for the train so yeah =P

[stelzig]

~25 hours i think O_O

[Hawke90]

........O_o

[leodon14]

that is not cruel melee you idiot rab0309 is so right

[stelzig]

Either you did not see my reply to his comment or you are the idiot.

"It is cruel melee dumbass. Do you see any items? No. That's because it's cruel melee. You can also go ahead and try to do a tilt downA attack on the wireframes in any other multi-man melee mode. They will get KO'd instantly, unlike here. Same for throws. Even if you can't hit all 5 it doesn't matter. It's enough to just hit one in the beginning with that attack and you'll see."

[TheCaliche]

You have to much free time, man.

[MissJenai]

bad music, "How do people even figure stuff like this out" Wow you play this game way too much noob.

[stelzig]

"Don't mind the music just some danish mafia BS i felt like adding :P"

:)

[SICHAXP]

q carago ne visto

[byakuganrocks]

why dont they move at :30, cruel melee always chases u...

[stelzig]

You see it right there in the vid. it's when you stand at a certain pixel of a platform, the CPU is programmed to stand still. That's what happens ;)

[rab0309]

this is not cruel melee idiot

[stelzig]

It is cruel melee dumbass. Do you see any items? No. That's because it's cruel melee. You can also go ahead and try to do a tilt downA attack on the wireframes in any other multi-man melee mode. They will get KO'd instantly, unlike here. Same for throws. Even if you can't hit all 5 it doesn't matter. It's enough to just hit one in the beginning with that attack and you'll see.

[OliPotato]

That rap crap said Mc Donald's skee.

[Tiller777]

wow, that just goes to show how bad the A.I. is for this game...

[PortOPotty]

Hey how do you get your name thing over your head rather than "P1" or w/e

[Fortenium]

When you're on the character selection menu, click your character's name under their artwork, and it will have an option for a name. You may insert a name, no more than four characters. I know, it sucks, but whaddya gonna do? My name's "JRDN"!

[whiplash308]

what was the name of the first and 3rd french song, it was hilarious, and awesome vid

[stelzig]

It's all the same song. (And it's all in danish). It's called "diverse targeting" :)

[whiplash308]

true thx man

[bkdevstudio]

weirdest frech music i've heard :D but nice video

[DeanKontos]

So many kills did u get exactly? It was too hard to make out on my screen.

[stelzig]

In this vid you see play from 9403 to 9415. I got to 10,000, but deleted part of the taped gameplay so i never got the rest of my run on video.

[DeanKontos]

Wow man thats a shit load of time you must have spent on it lol. How did you end up getting killed? Did you just screw up that patern or something?

[stelzig]

nah. Just suicided. I was going to Finland that day and my parents wouldn't let me keep the GC on for a week without even playing so i just went for 10000 and stopped. That's also why i got exactly 10,000 :P

[DemonGaara007]

What's the name of this song?

[annoying1359]

Amazing.

[CrystalClearRamen]

The french rap music is awfull

[stelzig]

"Don't mind the music just some danish mafia BS i felt like adding :P"

It's funny how everyone thinks it's french btw. It is all danish with [mafia] accents from around the world. Appearntly people doesn't notice the change from french to indian and russian >_>

[yoshizrpwners]

hw do you do it? i need to know please tell.:) and what's up with the french music or whatever t is?

[ChronoSquare]

2 questions...

How long did that take to get 10,000 kills like that? Seems like it would take a lot of time... and is it safe to assume that this is a PAL version?

[stelzig]

I would estimate the playing time to have been 20-25 hours ;)

And yes. It is PAL. The NTSC version has a faster strat using the extended grapplebeam.

[ChronoSquare]

But the freeze glitch can still be done? >.>

[stelzig]

Yes.

[ridley111]

good trick my record is 10 without this trick oO

[KamiAura]

Overdrivelse fremmer forståelsen ^^

Det lyder godt, vil gerne lige lure din strategi af :P

[KamiAura]

Heh, me too.

But still, that might be because I'm danish.

Nice going there Stelzig, gotta practice on that myself.

My highest score is like 31 with Jigglypuff >_<

Kan du ikke uploade din 10 man Ice Climbers?

Hvad var den, 5 sekunder eller sådan noget?

[stelzig]

7.36 sekunder. Ikke overdrive :P

Jo. Kan da godt være jeg skulle få den op også :)

[3choist]

Hey, I actually understood that. (not 100% but I still know what you meant. Swedish is simmilar to danish, cool. ^^

[3choist]

I don't see anything wrong with the song. I like it. ^^

[iammaxhailme]

What the hell is that god-awful french rap song??

[stelzig]

It's still satire -.-

It's not good unless you understand the language :*)

[iammaxhailme]

No. It's just not good. >>

[stelzig]

Do you even know what satire means?

Anyway, just forget it then and turn off your speaker -.-

[wastyl]

(°o°)

[aznddongman]

How is this done???

[kamikrazi123]

you made this? hard to believe... alotta people just copy other videos that are already posted

[stelzig]

Well. I did. And as far as i know no one has copied this one yet since i haven't uploaded it on any downloadable site yet. Only once on yousendit, but a very few people except from me actually got it. My marth vid has been copied from someone though. And i haven't even uploaded that one myself yet -.-

[Hazygoose]

nice run, i wish i could do that for that long.i can get about 1000 with marth, then i feel like killing myself.

i have one question, though...do you have to wait until the male wire frame is almost at his peak to charge the down smash? or is it when they reach their peak? i can't tell, exactly, from watching.

[tripmisterman]

o so thats why i keep saying action replay or not cruels melee but no wonder

[Fluglecheese]

Congrats >_>

[Gamersunited]

Damn, you own at SSBM too:D

[MechaFreezer]

hardcore^^

[llamalover8761]

wow very good video :-)

[dtlte]

that looks like a very long boring day of smash bros you had there...cool trick tho