Kyl: Obama's Afghan Plan Reminds Me Of Vietnam

[psnsam]

For all those whiners who say Obama inherited a mess from Bush - It was Obama's choice to run for Presidency nobody forced him to be the President. If he wanted the responsibility he better suck it up and start leading the country.

[billthestinker]

War & high taxes!

[crtnyevans]

Its funny how republicans all of a sudden have problems with this war, when they were so excited to do it a couple of years ago

[psnsam]

LOL.Didn't Obama say he was going to bring back the troops?It seems like this President can get away with murder in broad daylight. The media wont even raise an eye brow.

[crtnyevans]

He said he would focus on Afghanistan. Seems he can say what he means and people will still make up shit. When did he say he would pull out of afghanistan. Show me

[psnsam]

Obama during his campaign said he will send in only "2 brigades" i.e 7000 troops . Now he is planning to send in 30000 troops. He said he was going to bring back troops in Iraq- which he has not. He said he will close Gitmo- he has not done that either. All he keeps doing is bending over to foreign monarchs.

[MetalEagle95]

Oh man you are SO different from every other republican talking-point machine. Dude congrats on the originality, you truly deserve a medal for all your hard research and rational logic.

He promised he will sent only 2 brigades - Oh yeah becuase as you know General McCristal totally plays no part in the war in Afghanistan.

Gitmo isn't closed - Congress just approved of the action, Gitmo will be closed soon.

Bowing down - Yes because showing respect shows weakness. Paranoid dumbass.

[psnsam]

Yeah, go ahead and call me names. It does not change the fact that "Gitmo will be closed SOON" is not good enough. Obama is Mr. Dither. It took Mr.President close to 3 quarters to decide if he wanted to approve a "surge"(drip) in Afghanistan or not. I am sure he will pass the closing of Gitmo baton to the next President in 2012. Hmm... did you say "showing respect". I did not see the Indian premier bow to Obama. Is it not Asian culture to show respect and bow. Why is Obama bending over in Asia?

[EnhancementSmoker]

you didnt see the Indian premier bow to Obama? Why would you?

Do you bow to him?

Bowing isnt a part of our culture...so why would anyone think its proper to bow to our president

you should think before you type

And you basically answered my earlier questions

you are attacking him for things you dont want done anyway. If he fullfilled those promises, youd be attacking that too, probably with more vigor. which is why no one really gives a shit about what people like you think

[MetalEagle95]

My point is that you are a fucking retard. Repeating the same republican talking points that are based to attack Obama on the basis that he's not republican.

I'm sorry if this breaks your heart but if Obama wants to do ANYTHING he has to go by congress first, it's called the system of checks and balances.

And like Smoker said. Is bowing part of our culture? Not really. If Obama was over there as a guest he would probably bow in sign of respect, just as they would shake hands here in respect.

[EnhancementSmoker]

are you complaining because you are upset those promises havent been fullfilled?

or are you compaining about Obama not doing things you dont want done anyway?

[1234uz]

Mr Kyle umh can you say IRAQ War and how you sucked GW BUSH and Cheneys Dicks all the time you Dick Head Right Wing Asshole

[tonycapricorny]

You know what else reminds me of Vietnam? Getting my bikini line waxed. I get all misty.

[tonycapricorny]

I really do think people should challenge Obama and keep him honest and push for transparency and make him justify his Afghanistan plans, etc., etc., but at the same time, I can't help asking: WHERE THE FUCK HAVE YOU PEOPLE BEEN FOR THE PAST 8 YEARS???

It's as if the only thing that could shock you into paying attention is a black president.

I knew it would be like this, for at least his first year in office, but damn.

[barada01]

First he criticizes Obama for an escalation in troops, a "surge" if you will, which this guy was a pretty big cheerleader of when Bush was doing it in Iraq, also not comparing it to Vietnam then. And, he is criticizing Obama for working on an exit strategy? That was exactly why people compare things to Vietnam today, because it was a no-win situation quagmire that is created from lack of exit strategy. Afghan can be Vietnam easily if we plan to be there forever as Kyl wants.

[boots920]

Fall of USA Empire Summary:

1) Usurper in Power Obama has not proven he's a US citizen, no long form

2) Federal Reserve (bill of credit) is creating trillions and counterfeiting trillions of paper fed notes

3) 1776 USA ended in 1913 with the establishment of the Communist Central Bank

4) No bottom to the economy and no ceiling in gold price in US Fed Notes (same thing happened in Zimbabwe)

because US legal tender is gold and silver you can't counterfeit it.

Bye Bye USA you are well done !!

[10thAngel]

boots, stop trolling. You don't care anyway.

[boots920]

At his best, man is the noblest of all animals; separated from law and justice he is the worst.

Aristotle

But disinfo buddy I'm not breaking any laws am I.

Obama sure is !!! So's all these corrupt global orgs.

[10thAngel]

nope, you don't break any laws, you just spew out stuff that you don't really care about, Isle of Man-person.

[boots920]

Believe me the Federal Reserve the counterfeiters are breaking the law and they don't give a rat's ass what happens to Patriots, taxpayers or any other human being that populate the planet.

No sound money = NO CIVILIZATION its that basic

[MooseOfReason]

Overwhelming force and deliver a knock-out punch?

Why didn't we do that eight years ago?

Anyway, we should withdraw from Afghanistan.

[10thAngel]

Well you know, they need to criticie Obama, even though 90% is Bush fault.

[Truthiness231]

True, and I concur, but as shitty as it is Obama will be taking the brunt of the blame for at the least a few years. It's sort of the position he took: the president of the US's job is to sign bills passed by the house, be the chief ambassador and figurehead of the nation, and to take all blame for everything that happens both domestically and globally. It sucks, but it's what they do =P

[boots920]

But just like the US Federal Reserve Note (subversion of the US Constitution) fiat currency nothing behind it.

Obama ineligible to be POTUS , subversion of the US Constitution . Obama's job is to pick up where Bush left off.

Obama protects War Criminals

History Repeats

Ford protected a War Criminal = Nixon = Nixon protected the war criminal = LBJ

[PersonalJesus348]

Oh a wise guy huh? Well the war on terror remind me of the George Orwell warning of a never ending war!

Beat that sucker!

[callouschristian]

Faster Pussycat KYL KYL KYL The Republican Party before it's too late

[EmpathyWorks]

Republicans have some nerve.

This statement from him is icing on the proof-cake that shows that Republicans literally want nothing but failure for Obama and the USA.

[10thAngel]

I think they don't want USA to fail, but they want to be in power and possibly take all the money before USA collapses (even though it is rather unlikely)

[boots920]

Gold at 1100 US +/- $100 US (paper) changes daily gold isn't stable either is the Federal Reserve Note.

No stable money = NO USA 100% certain

[10thAngel]

yay for capitalism!

[boots920]

Freemarket capitalism ended in 1913 yay for corrupt central government fucking with the taxpayers heads.

No sound money = No capitalism

Presently the US is just a Banana Republic with a large military.

Kinda like the Nazis on steroids Bush makes Hilter look like snow white, Obama makes Stalin look like Mary Poppins the Chinese government makes Pol Pot look like a well rounded citizen. Gordon Brown makes stepping in dog shit a fun experience.

Get the picture taxpayers are toast globally.

[10thAngel]

Godwins Law lol

[boots920]

All 20th century debacles can be explained by the central bank counterfeiting money. My ancestors gave their very lives for Profit.

A system of capitalism presumes sound money, not fiat money manipulated by a central bank. Capitalism cherishes voluntary contracts and interest rates that are determined by savings, not credit creation by a central bank.

Ron Paul

[KataVideo]

78% of people who cite godwin's law are nazis.

okay, that's bullshit, but it's 100% true that 90% of people buying sarah palin's book for 50% - 60% off are first time book buyers.

[boots920]

Republicans and Democrats = One happy family

Taxpayers ? At least the worms won't be hungry.

You got to cut through the bull crap a puppet is a puppet labels don't change the reality.

No Sound Money = No Civilization

[10thAngel]

*giggles* by the way, isn't Boots920 kinda cute when he rambles on about incoherent things that are not about the subject of the video?

[NatureLegalized]

Get twisted primates like this out of your gov.

[milkgodnl]

Kyl has the nerve to think that a "knock-out punch" would do any good over there in Afganistan.

.. He must hope that punch will whip up patriotic support here at home ..

Hey Kyl, .. Here is something +patriotic+ for you, ..

.. why don't you people pay for your own lousy war. ..

.. and remember one thing::: don't get near my Kids. . . .

Come on oh ye Disciples of Ayn Rand .. Don't tell me you are some Looter ..

One who has others pay war's price.

[therealcharismatron]

What's the frikkin' mission again?

How are the chocolate rations, by the way?

[poop121]

haha, nice.

we're "building a democracy" with our love and bombs. i think thats the stated mission.

[genghis6l99]

the mission is to sell coke for 8 dollars a can to soldiers and a bunch of crap. and rape every motherfukker in site. it's all bidness

[KosmicCitizen]

ONLY NOW does any of this remind Sen.Kyl of the Vietnam war?

The whole enterprise itself, along with Iraq, is quite "Vietnamesque", regardless of the more recent developments.

More politics. I don't even know what mandate the U.S. even has in Afghanistan (officially - "beneath the sheets" it's a little easier to call.)

[HugeJohn51]

lol, good one, no shit, after 8 years 'oh hey, this is like Vietnam" NO SHIT! Funny how having an exit strategy to him is a bad idea...what was he saying about Vietnam again? when was that about 3 seconds ago?

[RUKiddinMeHuh]

Chicken hawk.

[whoo689]

We can never accomplish the "mission." Eliminating all the terrorists in Afghanistan is practically IMPOSSIBLE, you moron Republicans! The only way we'll possibly do it is if we bomb the entire country, but that would, obviously, be quite inhumane and end up in alot of civilian deaths. Let's just pull out and forget this BS. Let Afghanistan and Iraq consolidate democracy on their own.

[monalisasmiles4you]

It's like the ENTIRE Republican Party had amnesia and forgot about Bush Junior...

[LeoHareMusic]

President Obama is between a rock and a hard place. If he leaves, the GOP says he's cutting and running. If he stays, they say it's another Vietnam.

President Bush left his successor--be it Obama or McCain--with a mess that can't be solved. Honestly, both those guys were nuts for even wanting to inherit this, hats off to both for even being willing.

I, for one, hope President Obama would just pull out of Afghanistan. That country bled the USSR dry. I don't want to repeat that.

[moregravyplease]

There are differences between the Russians' occupation and the current war, e.g.:

a) Russia wasn't fighting a rag-tag bunch of terrorists; the Afghan Mujaheddin were supplied, trained, and supported by the US govt. The Soviets were fighting US by proxy

b) in the current war, the U.S. is working with an international coalition, including Russia, to defeat the Taliban insurgency, which is significantly weaker than the Mujaheddin.

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

This is just insanity. There are NO strategies that will work. THAT is how this is like Vietnam.

We can't tell the difference between our "enemies" and regular civilians there. That was the problem in 2002, and it's the problem now.

So our options are either commit all out genocide-just kill everyone we see, or get the fuck out of there.

The other problem is we can't find Bin Laden.

Why the HELL are we still over there? It's 2009, Bush isn't president anymore. GET. THE FUCK. OUT.

[carmie1818]

Where was this stupid cunt when GWB showed more concern about invading Iraq, then going into Afghanistan?

[clnmike]

What mission? The mission was supposed to be get Bin Laden, everything else was quicksand. Pull out now before you get stuck witha baby.

[LouieArrighi]

I certainly hope that the president.... NEW TALKING POINT

[frostwolf1]

I came twice to pictures of women dressed as fairies

[KataVideo]

This republican punk did not serve in Vietnam.

This republican punk did not ever serve in the military.

[pwl1980]

Those are the worst.

They bravely send other people to die in the wars they dreamed up in their deranged minds while sitting in air-conditioned rooms drinking whiskey, smoking cigars and figuring ways to pay as low taxes as possible.

[KataVideo]

I wonder if jon kyl (who never served in the military) thought that bush's endless war in iraq seemed like vietnam?

[boots920]

KataVideo = Change Agent

Her job is propaganda , a government employee

[KataVideo]

Hey boots, any particular reason john kyl didn't say anything about bushpig's completely unjustified war in iraq, a country that couldn't and didn't attack us? is that like vietnam, too?

[boots920]

Any war not declared by congress is unjustified or the US government is not a legal power.

Korea

Vietnam

Afghanistan

Iraq all illegal wars

When did Afghanistan attack the US ? its all bull shit

[mexcurmudgeon]

Using intelligence on the ground and instead of massive army to be targets for Taliban and others, small squads of SEALs or Marines to take out viable targets, little or no collateral damage, little harm to civilian populations, in and out fast and deadly.

If you think a tank is a useful weapon against an enemy who can put down his weapon and walk into a crowd and disappear, you're either high, or a bloodthirsty asshole who would attack that crowd.

[mexcurmudgeon]

Does this jackass think we're fighting uniformed soldiers? The three biggest threats in Afghanistan are 1)The Taliban - a group of political and religious ideologues - you only know them when they're discussing their beliefs. 2)Al-Qaeda - estimates are about 100 or so of their members in Afghanistan. 35,000 more troops for 100 guys? 3)Corruption and drugs - we haven't been able to significantly do anything about those in OUR country. The enemy hides too easily. (continued)

[cryan71]

Of course, Kyl should know everything about Vietnam since he ser.... oh wait, Kyle never served in the military, so he wouldn't know anything about Vietnam or military strategy.

[marniespeaks]

if you really want out stop enlisting stop paying taxes

[revenge53142]

What was that "mission" again?

Ohhhhh yeah..... now I remember something about that Bin Laden guy we were friends with a couple decades ago. Didn't he do something to piss us off or something?

[britzman1]

Yeah, this douchey white fuck has a point. Give a hard, strong, thick, and juicy surge of offense, then wait for the MISSION ACCOMPLISHED sign to fly over your head and victory will magically unfold just like it did in iraq. Genius.

[dafttool]

Epic fail. Kyl took both sides of the argument here. Escalation is bad & descalation is bad. I guess he's got his bases covered. It's all total political bullshit. Bush's Afghan plan was also reminescent of Vietnam. And if anybody pointed it out at the time, their loyalty to America was openly questioned. It's a quagmire of monumental proportions.

[Richardgwm]

End the wars; close our military bases; defund the Pentagon.

None of this advances America's interests.

[boots920]

Subversion in Action so what can a taxpayer do except call up their congress rep and raise hell.

911 keeps on coming up with the Pentagon ?

The Pentagon started construction on what day ?

SEPTEMBER 11 , 1941

All wars since 1913 have been staged events based on false flags, deception.

All war is based on deception.

Sun Tzu

The only "Achilles Heal" of the US Constitution is the Government that ensures its enforcement.

US Fed Note = Illegal tender because its a bill of credit

END the FED !!!

[britzman1]

FIRST

[tommyd110]

ASSHOLE

[britzman1]

DOUCHEBAG