Folk in '3rd world countries' have not somehow developed the ability to forget how to grow food over the past few decades. Something else has happened.
Polyface farm is simply sensible, human, ecological and from the look of the place a great place to live. Making our food this way is a good way to live.
it's very interesting what he's saying about third world countries and that the people in those countries are very interested while in 1st countries they are very resistant and hostile to these methods. it's the same thing with michael reynold's struggle to build earthships, or geoff lawton's work to establish permaculture farming around the world. the people in the poorer countries jump right on it while we in the west just ridicule or ignore it.
Remember Soylant Green - first they destroy the environment then they turn people into food. In the end, as a society treats its animals is the way it will treat its people. In some cultures you must feed your animals (let alone mistreat them !) before yourself or family.
Joel's agricultural practices are in harmony with nature and consistent with the "Do Nothing" philosophy of M. Fukuoka and that is the hightest compliment I can give.
America needs more Joel Salatin's to stand up to the USA's Military-Industrial-Information complex. Our freedoms are in jeopardy. "Warrantless searchs...", Patriot act spying on Americans... I am not afraid of "Terrorists", but I dread the Military-Industrial-Information complex control of what should be our Government and thus fear the USA government.
While I am happy to see you don't endorse the extreme measures listed, I reserve judgment on any others. I would not underestimate natural nor our own stupidity in cutting the population. Other than that, I don't see that any other action need to be taken.
Salatin's business model (as he discusses in many of his books) are not always feasible due to State and Local legislation. As always there may be loop-holes, but in some cases jumping through those loops may cost more than the pay out.
@JAROSLAVAGINA There are a few reasons for this. Industrialized farming has created more hazards. Which leads to stricter rules. However that's a reactive approach opposed to being proactive. I also think we've been voting for the wrong people and putting too much power behind these politicians. But that's just my 2 cents
@07Negative i completely agree. every regulation out there that's touted as "protecting the public" in effect only reduces competition. that's why you'll see very large businesses supporting such regulation.
The "PROBLEM" is that Joel's systems WORK!!! If implemented all around the country and the world....we would greatly reduce energy usage, and ALOT of big $ people will take a hit....I hope that what people will take most from this, is that we really DO NOT have a FREE market
Not science based, easily remedied. Just do some testing and write an article of the results which you send to the peer reviewed agricultural science magazine.
Central Banks, FIAT Money and the New World Order / Illuminati Agenda is making a living HELL for us on this planet but Joel Salatin is one of Earth's Heroes.
Please investigate the NWO Agenda their use of symbolism so that you don't fall into the trap of spiritual enslavement.
I love this guy. His resistance to the boughtandpaidfor USDA is awesome. He knows what is healthy and good for us to eat because the USDA/FDA has evolved their standards based upon the big commercial growers and we all know that's the crap way they've come down on the little guy.... I'd say the real problem is with lobbyists' protection of their corporate masters.
Great show! Random question... how does he keep the turkeys from "jumping" (e.g., flying) the electric fence? Is he clipping the wings on a periodic basis?
@fool320, They aren't that smart. And they have no reason to. Joel's strategy is to give all his animals a job they're naturally predisposed to do. And then to combine their needs and impact in clever ways. For example, by following the cattle with chickens at just the time when the fly maggots are largest he gets the chickens to spread the manure, eat the fly larvae, and the young grass shoots (improving their diet.) Animals raised in this way have better things to do than leave.
@fool320 i grew up around chickens in large flocks fenced in like this too. i can explain. it DOES happen, but not often. the turkeys simply dont have anything they want outside the fence and would rather stay with the flock anyway. they COULD fly back in too, but usually dont. its simple...you just put them back in. being outside the fence is no real issue. the fence is not to keep them in so much as to keep predators OUT, you see.
Great video. I'm an eco-futurist, so some of my ideals are a little different to Joel's, but for a farmer producing food for the many, he is doing a brilliant job. My belief for true sustainability comes to population reduction over time - this will come when people have to grow their own food. When they realise they can only grow so much food for themselves, a realisation comes in where they know they are unable to provide for a huge family. My goal is to teach people organic backyard farming.
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@crabstu Larger families in the long term = destruction on every level. No matter what way you look at it. ie. - if you have a glass of water and grains of sand where water equates to food and water available and the sand is representative of people. Keep adding sand to the glass and eventually there is no room left for water and food (people just consume it all until mass poverty and or disease result.) We need to curb population growth no matter how you look at it.
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@crabstu Malthusianism has been discredited!?! Where?
To just about anybody that knows how to use their eyes, Malthus has pretty much been proven correct. Not that we couldn't shift gears now and adopt a more sustainable way of life, but we won't...
@markallanfox No one of serious thought believes in such thinking any longer. Do an honest search and see that his theories have been shown as flawed. Even Mr Salatin's ways of growing demonstrate that the linear assumptions regarding food production are way off. Sustainability has nothing to do with population control.
@crabstu If you have ever read anything about Joel, you will hear him say things like 'If i got more cattle, I would upset the balance and have to get more grass, more chickens, more pigs etc etc." Growing up on a sustainable farm I lol at people whom dont believe real farming is achievable.
If you are ok with your GMO'd factory farmed, abused animals complete with a side of hormones, smothered in a steroid sauce and a helping of antibiotics for dessert, so be it. Enjoy your lunch.
@msminxy75 Nothing of what I have said contradicts the practices of Mr. Salatin nor do they imply that I am from GMO'd factory farming, hormones, steroids and such. Quite the opposite. My remarks are strictly aimed at those who think sustainability is somehow linked with human population control efforts which are downright evil.
@crabstu Human Population Controls are not evil, they are natural, what is unnatural is the current lack of them. Everything else has it's own controller, be it predation, diseases, or lifespans, what have you.
Personally, I view some sort of Population Control to a necessity, especially seeing as we insist on our medicine trying to prevent the only things left that are attempting to be balancers. Just because we are the 'dominant species' doesn't mean we need to be the most numerous.
@redwolfmoonhowl Nonsense. There is quite a difference between the natural order of things and man-made attempts to limit the population. That latter always amounts to "there are too many of you and your children but just the right amount of me." That's why you see folks like Soros supporting such creepiness.
@crabstu Nah, there can really go ahead and be less of Me, that thought line is simply still held because of the Human Self-Centeredness that has become the norm.
We have pulled ourselves out of the 'Natural Order' of the planet and should have the sense to see that we still need a balancer, if Nature is not permitted to do so anymore, then we must do it ourselves. While I do not mean Holocaust Eugenics nor Gattaca's extent, there should be common sense practices. It's not creepy, it's logical.
Yes it does. The problem with dairy cows is getting them from the pasture to the milking parlor and back again twice per day. Unless you could come up with a mobile milkhouse.
crazy laws in america.all animal diseases were created in industrialised farms.
npeacy 6 days ago
Folk in '3rd world countries' have not somehow developed the ability to forget how to grow food over the past few decades. Something else has happened.
Polyface farm is simply sensible, human, ecological and from the look of the place a great place to live. Making our food this way is a good way to live.
Go figure.
BringBack500s 1 month ago
it's very interesting what he's saying about third world countries and that the people in those countries are very interested while in 1st countries they are very resistant and hostile to these methods. it's the same thing with michael reynold's struggle to build earthships, or geoff lawton's work to establish permaculture farming around the world. the people in the poorer countries jump right on it while we in the west just ridicule or ignore it.
Ullbritt 3 months ago
@Ullbritt and most of all, regulate against everything.
Ullbritt 3 months ago
@TheoryIsSpeculation Native Americans. USA commited genocide on a noble people and the USA should give back the all the land stolen from them.
ilovebees3 5 months ago
Remember Soylant Green - first they destroy the environment then they turn people into food. In the end, as a society treats its animals is the way it will treat its people. In some cultures you must feed your animals (let alone mistreat them !) before yourself or family.
ilovebees3 5 months ago
Joel's agricultural practices are in harmony with nature and consistent with the "Do Nothing" philosophy of M. Fukuoka and that is the hightest compliment I can give.
ilovebees3 5 months ago
America needs more Joel Salatin's to stand up to the USA's Military-Industrial-Information complex. Our freedoms are in jeopardy. "Warrantless searchs...", Patriot act spying on Americans... I am not afraid of "Terrorists", but I dread the Military-Industrial-Information complex control of what should be our Government and thus fear the USA government.
ilovebees3 5 months ago
While I am happy to see you don't endorse the extreme measures listed, I reserve judgment on any others. I would not underestimate natural nor our own stupidity in cutting the population. Other than that, I don't see that any other action need to be taken.
crabstu 7 months ago
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shichyeah 8 months ago
Salatin's business model (as he discusses in many of his books) are not always feasible due to State and Local legislation. As always there may be loop-holes, but in some cases jumping through those loops may cost more than the pay out.
JAROSLAVAGINA 9 months ago
@JAROSLAVAGINA There are a few reasons for this. Industrialized farming has created more hazards. Which leads to stricter rules. However that's a reactive approach opposed to being proactive. I also think we've been voting for the wrong people and putting too much power behind these politicians. But that's just my 2 cents
07Negative 9 months ago
@07Negative i completely agree. every regulation out there that's touted as "protecting the public" in effect only reduces competition. that's why you'll see very large businesses supporting such regulation.
JAROSLAVAGINA 9 months ago
10.24- 10.50 totally agree
099749 10 months ago
The "PROBLEM" is that Joel's systems WORK!!! If implemented all around the country and the world....we would greatly reduce energy usage, and ALOT of big $ people will take a hit....I hope that what people will take most from this, is that we really DO NOT have a FREE market
impalapez 10 months ago
Not science based, easily remedied. Just do some testing and write an article of the results which you send to the peer reviewed agricultural science magazine.
lordmetroid 11 months ago
Central Banks, FIAT Money and the New World Order / Illuminati Agenda is making a living HELL for us on this planet but Joel Salatin is one of Earth's Heroes.
Please investigate the NWO Agenda their use of symbolism so that you don't fall into the trap of spiritual enslavement.
Love yuz all
FreemanOftheMind 1 year ago 2
I love this guy. His resistance to the boughtandpaidfor USDA is awesome. He knows what is healthy and good for us to eat because the USDA/FDA has evolved their standards based upon the big commercial growers and we all know that's the crap way they've come down on the little guy.... I'd say the real problem is with lobbyists' protection of their corporate masters.
KallyJones 1 year ago 3
Are you hiring? I wanna be a farmer too. Just fly me out there and ill work for ya Joel.
For reasonable compensation.
FJMalik87 1 year ago
Great show! Random question... how does he keep the turkeys from "jumping" (e.g., flying) the electric fence? Is he clipping the wings on a periodic basis?
fool320 1 year ago
@fool320 why don't you just call the farm? They would not mind.
elenacerasela 1 year ago
@fool320, They aren't that smart. And they have no reason to. Joel's strategy is to give all his animals a job they're naturally predisposed to do. And then to combine their needs and impact in clever ways. For example, by following the cattle with chickens at just the time when the fly maggots are largest he gets the chickens to spread the manure, eat the fly larvae, and the young grass shoots (improving their diet.) Animals raised in this way have better things to do than leave.
ananiasacts 1 year ago
@fool320 i grew up around chickens in large flocks fenced in like this too. i can explain. it DOES happen, but not often. the turkeys simply dont have anything they want outside the fence and would rather stay with the flock anyway. they COULD fly back in too, but usually dont. its simple...you just put them back in. being outside the fence is no real issue. the fence is not to keep them in so much as to keep predators OUT, you see.
bradford71us 10 months ago
If you raise chickens or cattle....you REALLY need to watch this. Awesome info!
Thanks for sharing this with us.
ThanksgivingWalk 1 year ago 2
farmers started the first revolution, maybe they'll lead the second
michaelhuye 1 year ago 4
The electrified netting is doing the job that was once done by Little Boy Blue, the Goose GIrl, Heidi and Peter...
Jefferdaughter 1 year ago
does joel give these birds a shot when they are chicks.
gizliliman1 1 year ago
Thanks for posting!
iantmasters 1 year ago
Great video. I'm an eco-futurist, so some of my ideals are a little different to Joel's, but for a farmer producing food for the many, he is doing a brilliant job. My belief for true sustainability comes to population reduction over time - this will come when people have to grow their own food. When they realise they can only grow so much food for themselves, a realisation comes in where they know they are unable to provide for a huge family. My goal is to teach people organic backyard farming.
ToyMaster83 1 year ago
@ToyMaster83 Malthusianism has long since been discredited. Mr. Salatin's methods will actually help people to support larger families.
crabstu 1 year ago 22
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@crabstu Larger families in the long term = destruction on every level. No matter what way you look at it. ie. - if you have a glass of water and grains of sand where water equates to food and water available and the sand is representative of people. Keep adding sand to the glass and eventually there is no room left for water and food (people just consume it all until mass poverty and or disease result.) We need to curb population growth no matter how you look at it.
ToyMaster83 1 year ago
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@crabstu Malthusianism has been discredited!?! Where?
To just about anybody that knows how to use their eyes, Malthus has pretty much been proven correct. Not that we couldn't shift gears now and adopt a more sustainable way of life, but we won't...
markallanfox 1 year ago
@markallanfox No one of serious thought believes in such thinking any longer. Do an honest search and see that his theories have been shown as flawed. Even Mr Salatin's ways of growing demonstrate that the linear assumptions regarding food production are way off. Sustainability has nothing to do with population control.
crabstu 1 year ago 12
@crabstu If you have ever read anything about Joel, you will hear him say things like 'If i got more cattle, I would upset the balance and have to get more grass, more chickens, more pigs etc etc." Growing up on a sustainable farm I lol at people whom dont believe real farming is achievable.
If you are ok with your GMO'd factory farmed, abused animals complete with a side of hormones, smothered in a steroid sauce and a helping of antibiotics for dessert, so be it. Enjoy your lunch.
msminxy75 7 months ago
@msminxy75 Nothing of what I have said contradicts the practices of Mr. Salatin nor do they imply that I am from GMO'd factory farming, hormones, steroids and such. Quite the opposite. My remarks are strictly aimed at those who think sustainability is somehow linked with human population control efforts which are downright evil.
crabstu 7 months ago
@crabstu Human Population Controls are not evil, they are natural, what is unnatural is the current lack of them. Everything else has it's own controller, be it predation, diseases, or lifespans, what have you.
Personally, I view some sort of Population Control to a necessity, especially seeing as we insist on our medicine trying to prevent the only things left that are attempting to be balancers. Just because we are the 'dominant species' doesn't mean we need to be the most numerous.
redwolfmoonhowl 7 months ago
@redwolfmoonhowl Nonsense. There is quite a difference between the natural order of things and man-made attempts to limit the population. That latter always amounts to "there are too many of you and your children but just the right amount of me." That's why you see folks like Soros supporting such creepiness.
crabstu 7 months ago
@crabstu Nah, there can really go ahead and be less of Me, that thought line is simply still held because of the Human Self-Centeredness that has become the norm.
We have pulled ourselves out of the 'Natural Order' of the planet and should have the sense to see that we still need a balancer, if Nature is not permitted to do so anymore, then we must do it ourselves. While I do not mean Holocaust Eugenics nor Gattaca's extent, there should be common sense practices. It's not creepy, it's logical.
redwolfmoonhowl 7 months ago
@markallanfox, because greater wealth in people doesn't correspond to more children, but less.
ananiasacts 1 year ago
23.29 - 25.30 It's not unintended it's totally intended- to destroy local small farmers and allow industrail corporate dominance.
099749 10 months ago
the only honorable job in the world right now is this. seems like everything else has become corrupt in one fashion or another.
fatherprime 1 year ago 2
Never trust the FDA , right on Mr. Salatin.
Your ideas are what will save this environment,economy and life in general.
Anytime you need a master carpenter volunteer please put in on your web site....I'll come running!
willyD200 1 year ago 6
Does Cheech know that Chong is hosting this show
Frankenpalin 1 year ago
hello wake up!
bluzy25 1 year ago
Great show. Thanks for posting. Kudos to Joel for doing things the right way.
FunctionalPS 1 year ago 8
noble!
bluzy25 2 years ago
we in Ireland strip graze and have done so for years. It is a great way to manage grass. I think 100 per acre is a bit much though
mikecat23 2 years ago
So inspirational....
PerryWarrenProps 2 years ago
100 cows per acre a day.. I wonder if it would be possible with milk cows
800access 2 years ago
Yes it does. The problem with dairy cows is getting them from the pasture to the milking parlor and back again twice per day. Unless you could come up with a mobile milkhouse.
nyfbsfs 2 years ago