NYS with all the financial trouble they're in should start to realize they need to sell timber from these state owned lands or sell some of it's property. They own so much now, but yet continue to purchase more when they are broke. They can't even manage or oversee what they have now. Loggers in upstate NY are going broke looking for somewhere to work, or working for large companies who own and manage large parcels only to offer very little profit and they make all the money.
@Bubster71 No, tree huggers say it's so much better to lock up all those lands forever, shut down mills like Lyons Falls or Glens Falls, and then get government grants of all that free money to turn them into something else, to heck with the unemployed and those who get taxed out of their homes. Our state is broke but somehow they always have more money to buy more land. Adirondack wood, water, iron and steel built the Empire State, now it's becoming one big ghost town.
Most of the towns, highways, railroads, and even hiking trails or lakes owe their existance to loggers, not to mention all the paper and wood used by the nation that came from there. Thinning temperate zone forests allows winter snow to reflect heat where thick evergeen cover asorbs heat, cutting rainforests for resources instead increases global warming there, locking up the Adirondack forests is wrong, and when disease or bugs leave you with dead stands of timber ready to burn? Then what?
@LinnTractorNut Are you really trying to argue that temperate deforestation increases albedo enough to off set the effect of the tree loss, (I am of course assuming that you agree with the global warming premise?).
@zekezero12345 The sun controls our climate, and that of all planets in our galaxy. The sooner we focus on predicting solar weather and accomodating to that change instead of deluding ourselves into thinking we can change global climate the better. We need to address energy needs without nuclear, and we need to increase our local supplies of food and other consumer staples, which would increase jobs and benefit local economies and tax revenues.
hemlock, beech, balsam, spruce, hard and soft maple , ash and a few others as well but they are scattered how do i know that is my boss and me running the feller
I live here. I work for the state and the higher powers up call State Land "waste land", I couldn't say it better myself. They could use selective cutting on the state land. But they decided to let the city people make our rules. Way to go
I hear ya...I am from utica,but spend alot of time up north.Its a shame the way people who know nothing about the park,nor ever go or ever have even been there,make the rules.
I've had the pleasure of watching horse logging up close and personal, here in the Adirondacks...very cool, and much, much more beneficial for the wood lot, than modern logging methods.
the second dude in the progam getting interviewed was my mom's teacher.
dooder31 11 months ago
@freightliner450 yes it was my felling wood
timbco475 1 year ago
lake eire is full of garbage anyways cuz of michigan
JHR1987 1 year ago
I would love to move up there
cunterkooter 1 year ago
NYS with all the financial trouble they're in should start to realize they need to sell timber from these state owned lands or sell some of it's property. They own so much now, but yet continue to purchase more when they are broke. They can't even manage or oversee what they have now. Loggers in upstate NY are going broke looking for somewhere to work, or working for large companies who own and manage large parcels only to offer very little profit and they make all the money.
Bubster71 1 year ago
@Bubster71 they should let it grow and becom natural
natureperson420 1 year ago
@Bubster71 No, tree huggers say it's so much better to lock up all those lands forever, shut down mills like Lyons Falls or Glens Falls, and then get government grants of all that free money to turn them into something else, to heck with the unemployed and those who get taxed out of their homes. Our state is broke but somehow they always have more money to buy more land. Adirondack wood, water, iron and steel built the Empire State, now it's becoming one big ghost town.
LinnTractorNut 11 months ago
Most of the towns, highways, railroads, and even hiking trails or lakes owe their existance to loggers, not to mention all the paper and wood used by the nation that came from there. Thinning temperate zone forests allows winter snow to reflect heat where thick evergeen cover asorbs heat, cutting rainforests for resources instead increases global warming there, locking up the Adirondack forests is wrong, and when disease or bugs leave you with dead stands of timber ready to burn? Then what?
LinnTractorNut 2 years ago
@LinnTractorNut Are you really trying to argue that temperate deforestation increases albedo enough to off set the effect of the tree loss, (I am of course assuming that you agree with the global warming premise?).
zekezero12345 1 year ago
@zekezero12345 The sun controls our climate, and that of all planets in our galaxy. The sooner we focus on predicting solar weather and accomodating to that change instead of deluding ourselves into thinking we can change global climate the better. We need to address energy needs without nuclear, and we need to increase our local supplies of food and other consumer staples, which would increase jobs and benefit local economies and tax revenues.
LinnTractorNut 11 months ago
Cool horse logging
Conan568 2 years ago
What types of trees grow in this region?
Mortuvir 3 years ago
hemlock, beech, balsam, spruce, hard and soft maple , ash and a few others as well but they are scattered how do i know that is my boss and me running the feller
timbco475 3 years ago
hemlock , balsam fir, spruce . beech , hard and soft maple and a few others although they are scattered .how do i know that is me in the feller
timbco475 3 years ago
I live here. I work for the state and the higher powers up call State Land "waste land", I couldn't say it better myself. They could use selective cutting on the state land. But they decided to let the city people make our rules. Way to go
Nickmeach8692 3 years ago
I hear ya...I am from utica,but spend alot of time up north.Its a shame the way people who know nothing about the park,nor ever go or ever have even been there,make the rules.
trink968 3 years ago
Yeah and one day it will all burn down and the educated Idiots will be scratching their thick skulls and saying, "duh, what happened?"
Conan568 2 years ago 2
I've had the pleasure of watching horse logging up close and personal, here in the Adirondacks...very cool, and much, much more beneficial for the wood lot, than modern logging methods.
dustyboots27 3 years ago
The guy in the white sweater 30 seconds or so in is my brother :) He's driving the horses.
ajksmusic 3 years ago
COOL
CrossingRubicon 3 years ago