Bukhari:V5B59N512 "The Prophet had their men killed, their children and woman taken captive."
Quran 33:26 "Allah made the Jews leave their homes by terrorizing them so that you killed some and made many captive. And He made you inherit their lands, their homes, and their wealth. He gave you a country you had not traversed before."
Bukhari:V4B52N270 "Allah’s Messenger said, 'Who is ready to kill Ashraf? He has said injurious things about Allah and His Apostle
What a load of PROPAGANDA!!!! Islam and Hamas are the problem, not Israel... Israel wants to exist peacefully but muslims will never allow it because they HATE everything non-muslim. Allah = God of HATE. Islam is the worst religion in the world...
@ThomasJKH U HV A VERY SICK POLICY... U THINK U CAN DIVERT ISRAEL'S CRIMES BY ATTACKING MUSLIMS. BTW I AM A CHRISTIAN AND ISRAELIS R A BUNCH OF THIEVES.
@mrspalestine It's true! MUSLIMS are the reason there is no peace in the middle east. You people will never accept Israel, so you create propaganda to make people hate Israel. You people are sick! Have you ever heard of the expression "live and let live" ? You should try it. Leave the people of Israel alone. I hope you know that there are many Muslims living peacefully in Israel also. So stop with your hate. There would be no trouble in that part of the world if Arab countries would back off...
@ThomasJKH ISRAELIS WILL LIVE THEIR LIVES IN FEAR & CAN NEVER HV REAL PEACE BECAUSE THEY R NOT WORKING TOWARDS JUSTICE. AND IF U DONT KNOW THE GRAVE CRIMES & INJUSTICES COMMITED BY ISRAEL, DONT BOTHER TO RESPOND.
I BELIEVE THAT EVENTUALLY JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL, & SADLY I ALSO BELIEVE THE WORLD'S JEWS WILL SUFFER 4 ISRAEL'S MISTAKES.
@mrspalestine Yeah I bet you'd love that you anti-semitic Nazi. I guess you can dream.
If Muslims ever tried to take over Israel I personally would move from Ireland to Israel and join the IDF and help kill you Muslim terrorists.
You are the scum of the world, and the whole world knows it. Just watching the news lastnight I seen how radical muslims in Nigeria are blowing up emergency rooms in hospitals.
3. As twisted & sick as the Nazis were, at least they were straight with the Jews, they told them "we don't like u & we don't want u" and they paid them the equivelant of their properties to leave Germany. What did Israel do??? They stole Palestinian lands claiming they lived in them 2000 yrs before.
4. I agree with u that radical muslims r freaks, but they r a minority. Israel & injustice is empowering them in M.E.
@mrspalestine Firstly, not for one second do I believe you're a Christian. You're quite clearly a Muslim hiding his faith so that people will have more respect for his opinions. Sorry, I'm not a fool.
Second, you're openly proclaiming what the Nazis did to the Jews. That makes you one of the most disgusting vile people on the planet. People like you create genocide and mass murder of certain races and minorities.
Thirdly, anti-semitic means to have a hatred towards Jews. Go look it up :)
I don't care what u believe. I am a Christian & if I was a Moslem I will never deny it. What kind of people will judge my opinion based on my faith???
The most disgusting & vile people r those who r using the memory of the Holocaust 4 politics. It is Israel who r committing genocides & ethnic cleansing "against certain races".
U r an ignorant fanatic with little education, dont bother to reply to me.
@mrspalestine You are the only uneducated and uninformed person here. Israel is a wonderful peaceful country. Hamas and other terrorist muslims are the only reason there is not peace in that part of the world. And I stand by my statement that you are a muslim. If you were a Christian you would not be so passionate about the subject. You are just another angry muslim that hates democracy and the west. Have a nice weekend :)
@ThomasJKH i can't stand you jews....i'm no palestinian/ arab sympathizer but i simply find it hypocritical for you jews to preach about the holocoust when your own state is nothing more that nazi style! is it true you have web sites which name and shame jewish women who date arab men? i'm all for the state of israel but not for it's "naziism". if it was for me i'd get all the jews in usa and europe and force them to go live in israel at least to stop jewish world domination!
@nicky29031977 i'm not jewish you imbecile. i'm atheist. how ignorant of you to assume i'm jewish and then start bashing me because of your ignorance. i could as easily say you are muslim by the way you're defending arabs and palestinians. your name is nicky? i'm assuming you're a woman. please go live in palestine for a bit nicky. you'd be running for the israeli border within hours. unless you like being a slave for a lazy muslim man. now fuck off you anti-semitic piece of shit.
@ThomasJKH i'm a man and you say you're athiest but into what culture were you born? i'm christian ,non practicing ,european! I said earlier that I don't sympathize anyone in this jew/arab situation but the jews have a long established reputation for pretending to promote peace when in fact they are the aggresors...answer the question about the anti arab dating web site below! As for women , certain jewish groups surpress their women just like muslims!
@ThomasJKH i'm a man and you say you're athiest but into what culture were you born? i'm christian ,non practicing ,european! I said earlier that I don't sympathize anyone in this jew/arab situation but the jews have a long established reputation for pretending to promote peace when in fact they are the aggresors...answer the question about the anti arab dating web site below! As for women , certain jewish groups surpress their women just like muslims!
lol..get a life would you? consider to stop suicide bombing or launching rockets or using your own kids as a human shield, and maybe than you can claim justice. fucking assholes..
@Ramko1010 seriously its you that needs a life, you need a cause to defend a country to live for, those who comet suicide bombing are only framed as Muslims and Arabs but the truth is that Foreign governments are behind them, and defending our selves by rockets is our right Palestinians are being killed tortured everyday and you are saying that we do not have the right to launch rockets and GOD forbid that any of us will use children Muslim Christian Arab or not as a human shield.
@Ramko1010 I am amazed when i see people you come and say palestinians use kids as a human sheild. My question that where you come from people became like cows who sit infront of a zionist american Tv and take whatever they say as truth without even questioning logic. You are so dump to the point that if they tell you donald duck is real u will believe. And that is what they want in the US. People who are unable of critical thinking or form their own opinion. That is why u guys watch spongebob
Psalm 83:12,15-18 12 Who said, Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession. 15 So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm. 16 Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O LORD. 17 Let them be confounded and troubled for ever; yea, let them be put to shame, and perish: 18That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.
@shellback1970 obviously you don't know how to express your opinion without saying "f*ck" and someone who uses those phrases has no right to quote from any of the holy books Pslam, Quraan, Torat or the bible
@msswebat How would you know what holy book anyone has a right to qoute from? You listed the quran as a holy book..so its obvious you dont even know what a holy book is...
@shellback1970 as a Muslim i know all the holy book respect all religions and i know that an induvisual who uses such phrases is not worthy of quoting anything said by GOD
@msswebat Ok so quote me something from GOD..Im talking something pertaining to GOD being tolerant of other religions..because I do know he said "THOU SHALT NOT HAVE OTHER GODS BEFORE ME." That dosent seem like God is the tolerant type.. Jesus also isnt tolerant of other faiths." NO MAN comes unto the Father but by me." That means Unless your one of his followers you burn in hell period...That dosent leave any room for muhammad's followers. YOUR SCREWED otherwise..
@shellback1970 "Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors" 2.192. "But if they cease, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful". 2:224:" Do not use God's name in your oaths as an excuse to prevent you from dealing justly."
Palestine's new strategy: lie to the western world and try to convince the that Palestinian nationalism (driven by arab humiliation and a pathetic culture of "honor") is actually about "justice" and "human rights."
This propaganda is so transparent, and your real values are so obviously contradictory to western/secular values, this won't work.
Ha! Arab racism against Jews is so much worse that Jewish racism against Arabs. This is 100% pure propaganda. The Palestinian lie machine actually held a conference to promote the use of the words "apartheid" and "racism", openly admitting they were a propaganda tactic. Too bad anyone with eyeballs and goes to an Israeli city can see how utterly false this shit is.
1952 - Seven armed Palis' killed a 19 year-old girl in her home,in Jerusalem.
1953 - Palis' threw hand grenades and sprayed gunfire in all directions near Lod, killing 1.
1955 - Palis' killed 2 hikers in the Judea Desert.
1956 - Palis' opened fire on a synagogue at Shafrir. Three children and a worker were killed.
It goes on and on. Before the "occupation". So when the IDF comes, strips them from their weapons and creates security checkpoint, how can they cry about it?
@miaminegrofc I'm 100% belong there. Maybe all the Arabs should get out of Morocco, Libya, Egypt and so on and go back to Saudi Arabia, where they all came from.
"israel has killed more palestinians than vice - versa." This is a retarded argument. Maybe those damn Jews should apologize for not dying more?
@michalthelion No, this video is one-eyed, blind and renewable stupid, I just brought the other side up.
I find it funny that the Palis were and still are defying the UN resolution of the creation of Israel by countless attacks before 1967, (as I mentioned a few before) and from the other side they are crying to the UN about being occupied.
@danny1st it's not only about the war... Every war is horrible, every war is tragic... The wars have always been provocated by Rotschilds, by the way... But it's also about the behavior of terrorist zionist settlers, all the world knows that, including you, come on, you can't be turning the truth into illusion all the life... You maybe claim that if Islam were ruling Israel that some Muslim would force you to pray or whatever - believe me - nobody posesses any rights like that... nobody...
@danny1st all the normal people supporting Palestine just want freedom for all, including Jews and whomsoever... the form of freedom Zionists are providing us with - is freedom where they have freedom to bulldose houses and killing "gentiles"... But all the people are the same naturally with same rights to live some cultivated quality life...
Palestinians will have freedom when they get over the shame of 1948 and stop trying to destroy the Jewish state. Its really that simple. Everything you say is meant to divert attention from this incredibly simple fact.
@danny1st if you want Palestine to be named Israel, fine, why not, but any state that is based on discriminative laws against any group of people living in such state, is simply dangerous even for Jews to live there... It's not a Jewish state, it's a secular state... the grounds of this modern Israel's history are situated in Deir Yassin - and genocide of defenceless Palestinian civilian inhabitants (not settlers neither tourists) living there in tollerance and peace with Jews for long time...
@michalthelion Are you naive or are you try to act like one? #1
1. That Rothschild conspiracy is tasteless to respond to, as all BS theories.
2. Of-course Israel has problem with racism, but no more then any western country and a lot less than it's neighbors.
3. If you mentioned Dir Yasin as a founding event for Palis', what would you say about the Hebron massacre that took place 18 years before that as a founding even for the Jews?
@danny1st I condemn Hebron massacre of those Jews and I regret that such thing happened, here clearly I'm writing to you, I condemn it... But I am also insisting on the fact that it's horrible for me that Barukh Goldstein did the same and that settlers are damaging olive trees owned by someone else etc... I condemn every horrible act and I would feel better if we all reflected justly by saying all wrong things are wrong regardless who commits them...
@michalthelion Are you naive or are you try to act like one? #2
4. I don't buy that "defenseless Palestinian civilian inhabitants". the leaders of those "defenseless" people started the clashes and attacks on Jewish populated areas while harboring in their villages for cover. They wanted to drive them all to the sea, and they were the ones who got screwed by their own actions.
5. Last time I checked, 20% of IL's citizens are Arabs, mostly in cities where they surrendered back in 48 and some that sneak back.
"Ethnic cleansing" my ass.
6. Everyone knows that it's the Palis' greatest dream to over populate and become the majority of the population, that's why they are kept miserable in refugee camps by their leaders who talks about "freedom", in order to nurture this "right of return" BS.
Muslims oppressed Jews for centuries, and Israel has never committed anything close to a genocide. Sudanese Arabs, on the other hand, just did. You're a disgraceful liar who clearly doesn't care about human beings.
@LearnedHand2008 I think you're well paid from taxes of Americans for what you typed here. And I'm sure I think correctly. Your wild effort for placing your empty-minded notes on the internet really posesses power similar to that nuclear one in Dimona but anyway, that's not the point of my reaction to you. I will tell you only one thing - in Catholic Spain, Jews and Muslims were burnt. That time nobody wanted to accept Jews as asylum immigrants - only Islamic Caliphate. I honour human life.
Again, thank you spouting conspiratorial nonsense and acting like what Muslims did 800 years ago, as opposed to today, matters at all. Its amazing that you don't understand how your delusional stupidity hurts the Palestinian cause, and helps Israel.
Darthmobius: I have lived in the occupied territories, I have worked in the occupied territories, I have been a part of Palestine's struggle for justice for 43 years, so don't lecture to me, putz
when it comes about palestine, haters always come, remembering nakba, jaffa tragedy, thus tragedy were spinning endlessly almost 50years, GOD never sleep, go Israel as long as you still exist just do whatever you want before being erased again, I dunno how much time Israel gone, the world is better without the existence of Israel, my beloved Father in heaven, please destroy israel as soon as possible
@MiguelAngelSepulveda Israel doesn't have to be destroyed, they just have to stop being greedy and racist. There is one place on earth where Apartheid still exists: Israel. To call for the destruction of an entire state is short sighted if you believe in God. Palestine/Israel is an open wound in the history of humanity...one that may fester and kill us all. We should pray for peace and promote ideas for the long term good.
Yone71 is complaining to me privately that I don't know what I'm talking about and that he is not being paid by Israel to post his comments. Problem is that he LIVES in the apartheid state of Israel and he actually has the nerve to say he studies Middle East history. It's so laughable, that I had to post to everyone. If he studies history, it is Zionist history only. If he actually studies history, then he should know that Israel stole the land and has been committing genocide. Shmuck
@Truegret, Obviously you have a very stunted grasp of reality; pertaing to the middle east and history as a whole. Jews have lived in the region for thousands of years, untill Islam came along with it's Genocidal paradigms and carved up the region for booty, where upon people like you buy in to the bullshit espoused by the likes of the Wahabist/salafist psychopaths, "palastine" was a beautiful; prosperous and peaceful region until the UAE OPEC crude Gang got its Claws in post WWII
@Truegret I'm actually not complaining & posting it publicly doesn't make it very "private". Perhaps you should use a dictionary when writting these posts since even small words seem to confuse you. I was merely saying that I don't get paid in response to your allegation that I do. Can you wrap your 2 braincells around that? Israel is, by defenition, not "apartheid". Even Carter states this openly. I studied @ the U of MD @ College Park .. not particularly Zionistic.
@argonium79 Most of the Jews lived i Eastern Europe, so how is it that Islam saved Judaism again?! Europe is by far the worst Islamo appeasers today & some of the worst anti-Jews traditionally, so you claiming to be European only doesn't really help. Of course this is about religion! Hamas says this openly. They won't let 1 inch of this land not be under Islamic control. It's called "Dar al Islam". Amazing that Hamas is more honest than you about this! What about Muslem traetment of Christians?!
@argonium79 Of course it's about religion. Hams says that they can't allow 1 inch of this land to be under non-Muslem control. That's religious reason. Now who should I trust, some PC Islamo appeasing inteligencia poser sheep, or Hamas? I think I'll go with the more honest about this issue which is Hamas. Yup .. Hamas is more honest than you .. pathetic !
We don't opress anyone, including Christians. But while we are at it, let's dicuss Muslem Arabs treatment of Christians. Start with Gaza ...
@argonium79 The tactics are always the same with you Islamo appeasing anti-Jewish bigots. Non-sequitors, repetition of facts that have been proven wrong. Just admit it. You tolorate Jews so long as we are weak, humble & know our place. Well they ain't makin those type of Jews here. Sorry.
We are democratic. We have Arabs at all level of government. Your hate of Jews has blinded you to the point where you support an opressive violent masoganistic movement. You are a typical pathetic European.
@argonium79 Hitler actually despised any religion. He tolerated Christianity. Where did you say you got your education? The Arabs in Kneset have as much right as any other Knesset member. We have an Arab Supreme Court Justice. Aab policemen & servicemen. Our laws are as they are due to the nature of the beast which surrounds us. A beast whose laws you really don't want me to get into. You opinions about Israel are irrelevant. Israel is as Western as it gets around here. You're inconsequential
@argonium79 The Jewish community of Iran is a pitance of what it was & dying quickly. Most escaped the Islamic reconquest. As for them having more rights than any Arab in Israel ... ROFL! Muslems here have more rights than in any Muslem country. They can protest so long as it's peaceful & coordinated. Even Muslems in Iran can't do that, much less the Jews. So spare us the absolute absurdities.
@argonium79 But you criticize only Israel. You criticize us while turning a blind eye to the violence of Islam. A violence that forces us to act in ways we'd rather not. You are, in no uncertain terms, a bigot. Get over it ...
@argonium79 Of course it's Islam. Even Hamas says it's Islam. I will certainly take their word about what they are fighting for over an Islamo appeasing rhetoric parriting PC Eurotrash sheep like yourself.
It is free go for us now & yet the Pali population is growing & 20% of Israelis are Arabs. If we wanted to, they'd all be dead!
Islam's tenant of "Dar al Islam", the world should be under Muslem control, is the reason for Islamic hatred & eletism over others. You are a bigot .. sorry.
@argonium79 Jews were not getting along "fine" with the Muslems. We were tolorated so long as we were meak & subservient. In this land unde4r Muslem rule Rabbis were help for ransom, Jews were not equal under the law (we are Dhimmis afrter all), Jewish property was destroyed & taken, the Jewis community was taxed so heavily it had to seak financial assistance from abroad. All this done because Muslems are eleite to Jews. So what the hell are you drivelling on about?! You are sooo ignorant!
@argonium79 It was far far from perfect! Jewish communities haveincreased almost everywhere .. that's human nature. But that logic the Palis are doing great under Israeli rule! We did fine until the powers that be, wether Muslem of Christians decided that we shouldn't. That is 1 of the best arguments for Israel that there is!
Comparing Jews in the dark ages Christian world to that of Islam is comparing death to utter opression & saying we should be greatful for just being opressed. Pathetic!
@argonium79 Thjat's funny since Hamas openly states that even not 1 inch of this land can be in Jewish control. That it belongs to Islam. That a return to the 67 borders will lead to a Hudna, a cease fire until Hamas starts fighting again. They are a religious organization! Zionism is for the Jewish nation. I am a staunch Zionist & not religious. Again .. what the hell are you drivelling on about ?!
@argonium79 Polls are your proof. What a silly twit you are !! As for hasbara .. what do uyou think you are doing?! You excuse Islamic violence & outright lie ! Since 48 it's been us doing things to them ?! In 1974 22 school children were killed in Maalot. Clearly after 48. Not to mention suicide bombers etcv etc etc. What a twisted Euro bigot you truely are! So yes .. the facts speak for themselves ..
@argonium79 Actually the 1890 .. but the land Jews built farms on was almost exclusively baught from it's owners, landlords residing abroad. That didn't stop Arab Muslems from attacking these communities.
@argonium79 I'm not cherrypicking you dunce. You said Jews got along great with the Muzies in this land .. that's a lie. You say it's not about Islam for the Palis .. that's a lie. You say that we are racist .. that's a lie. The Christians aare treated far worse in the Muslem world. Just ask the ones in Gaza & Egypt so spare us the pathetic Islamo drivel.
"Goy" just means nation. More eletist Eurotrash BS.
There are plenty of non-Jews living here, just not the ones sworn to kill us. Sorry :(
@argonium79 You say that we abuse Christians. Enjoy this vid ..
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You really are a bigot. No 2 ways about it really. Blaming us for things that are far worse in the Muslem world. But you should feel good. You are acrrying on a rich tradition of hatred towards Jews in the European community. Good for you.
@argonium79 Bedouins smuggle weapons & drugs across the Sinai to begoin with. There is also the fact that their namadic lifestyle precludes their kids from getting any sort of education. Those reservations have water, electricity, etc provided by this state. Running around & setting up shop whereever they feel is siply not possible under the circumstances.
Israel has a 20% Arab population not to mention plenty of other nationalities. Just not those sworn to kill us. Sorry :(
@argonium79 How about the fact that about at the same time that about 4-700,000 Arabs were displaced from this land (most of whome hadn't been here even 30 years in 1948), about a mill Jews were simply expelled from Muslem lands (those that managed not to be publicly hanged). But 60+ years later you are still whinning like a biatch about Arab Muslems (that's all "Palestinians" are). You also don't bother with much worse humanitarian criseas. You are a bigot. Really quite simple.
@argonium79 It's not some African DooDoo. It's Muslems raping, killing, maiming, & force converting in the name of Islam. Stop pretending that it doesn't matter when Muslems rape a nation & commit what can accurately be decribed as genocide. How unbelieveably pathetic !
@argonium79 The closest thing resembling NAZIsm today is Islam bar none. How many Jews live in Saudi Arabia? Used to be 3 tribes till Muhamed slaughtered them all (& raped the chieftains daughter .. but that's nother story). How about Libya which had a sizeable Jewish community & today has zero Jews. How about Gaza with zero Jews? Hamas who says a few Jews could remain when Islam takes over but the rest go into the sea? Spare us ...
@argonium79 The difference .. which I know iss hard for you to understand .. is that I am asking you to simply look around the world. Islam is involved in about 90% of the globe's violent hotspots. Hell, just look at the violence between Muslems & Muslems. As for "massacering" these loving & peaceful people, we do no such thing. In fact, Syria killed more Muslems in 1 day in the town of Hama then Israel ever has! So spare us the BS comparisons & use of words that are simply silly. Pathetic !
@argonium79 You have no information about yourself on your profile only lots of anti-Israel material & I'm the propagandist ?! What a hypocritical bigot you are.
@argonium79 Judiasm is Zionism. Your belief that they are seperate is simply retarded. There is a call to return to Zion in every single prayer including grace after meals. How eletist of you to accept that Islam calls for all men to visit it's homeland, Arabia, but we Jooos have no right to our homeland & that it's agaisnt our religion. Again bigotly pathetic!
@argonium79 You really like just pulling sh!t out your ass. I'm begining to believe you are retarded son. My point about grace after m,eals is that it shows how connected Judaism is to Zionism. They are 1 & the same. The orthgodox rabanut is in Jerusalem & has no issues with this State.
Hamas is fighting in the name of Islam. They are clear about this. Yet they see no issue with Islam expelling a million Jews or Muslems killing & raping in Africa. How incredibly hypocritical.
Yone71 is a hasbara, someone who works for the state of Israel as a paid PR mouthpiece. Why are any of you giving him the time of day? He is ignorant of the facts of what happened in Palestine, he doesn't care, and he slanders Islam, the Palestinians and those of us working for justice. Leave him out of the conversation and he will eventually go and bother someone else.
@Truegret I get paid exactly zero to come on here & tell you dipsh!ts that you are hypocritical Islamo appeasing bigots. I do this for fun. But facts have little to do with your world in which Jews are to be denied their homeland while Islam is to be appeased. I don't have proof that your mom's a whore just like you have no proof that I get paid so if you want to start a slander war, bring it assclown.
I majored in Middle Eastern studies. What have you done again?!
We know you are employed by the Zionist entity as a hasbara propagandist. How much do they pay you? You are not doing a very good job! Admittedly even the world's greatest salesman cannot sell a bad product. Take Dr Joseph Goebbels advice. Keep telling lives until people think it is the truth! lol
At the end of the day "Palestinians" are just Arab Muslems (almost exclusively). Just like the other 150+mill in the area. Israel is a mere 0.65% of the Middle East. Islamic greed can not deal with 0.65% of the Middle East not being in their control, especially when Israel is thriving. We Jews should know our place as subordinate Dhimmis. It's a pathetic strawman routine that Islam uses while conducting violence across the globe. Don'y buy the lie !!
@argonium79 You mean like the Arabs who massacred the Jews of Hebron in 1929 without provocation. The Jewish land & property was taken & has yet to be returned. So spare us the "Jews steal land" crap. Look around the world .. Africa etc ... it is Islam that steals land & opresses others. There is no doubt about this fact.
@argonium79 You're right .. it was in 29, but it wasn't by some "radicals". These Jews were raped, maimed, & killed by their neighbors!! The rumors of Jews killing Arabs in Jerusalem was started by .. Muslems! Why speak of Rwanda when we can speak of Darfur & Sumalia where Muslems are shoving Sharia down the natives throats .. again with raping, maiming & killing.
Jews were not allies. We were Dhimmis & horribly abused in this land under Muslem rule. You have a warped sense of history.
@argonium79 Actually I have Arab friends. I was married to a Muslem woman from Iran for a few years. She converted out of Islam & took on Zoroastrianism, a faith crushed in her native Persia by .. you guessed it .. Islam! Want to hear what she has to say about your masoganistic faith ?! So spare us the "you hate Arabs" crap. You know even less about me than about the history of this place.
"Both Israel and South Africa have the same problem we are surrounded by hordes of uncivilised brown people" quote by Jon Vorster Prime Minister of South Africa when he visited Israel in the 1970s and who was imprisoned as a Nazi sympathiser in the 1940s! Both the criminal Zionist entity and the racist Apartheid state are the same built on stolen land from brown people that have to keep carrying out regular massacres of the natives.
@petersz98 What does what some S African in the 70s said have to do with what Israel is? Exactly nothing! You pretend that Jews haven't always lived here. You choose to do so because you are a PC Islamo appeasing sheep. Go feel hiolier than though on someone else's dime. As for the NAZI equivilancy BS ... The Arabs of this area actualy were NAZIs!! You're not just a snivling Islamo appeaser .. you're outright ignorant.
"Regular massacre of the natives"? The Palis have an overpopulation problem!
@petersz98 It's funny that you still play the "Jews control the media" card. It's expired. Many reporters have come out & openly stated that their networks order them to condemn Israel & report stories that they haven't even coroborated. If anything, the PC media has unabashidly been appeasing Islamic interests at Israel's expense.
PS. Cute poem. You know where you can shove it ...
This revolting liar just loves throwing out the word "racist" without acknowledging the genocidal racism of Arabs towards Jews, and the fact they still enslave black Africans. Sorry, you disgusting liar, most westerners understand their own values too well to believe your bullshit. It doesn't matter how many time you repeat the word, it doesn't make it true. What else did you learn in Arab Propaganda 101?
@LearnedHand2008 maybe you should try to have some slogans to live by or learn how to do anything at all like instead of swearing and hate language try to understand what is going on behind your back!
@LearnedHand2008 first of all arabs does not enslave black people seconed of all you Westerns have racism upon yourselves how could you not be racist against arabs or muslims for no reason at all thirdly the so called "Genocidal Racism towards Jews" of yours does not exist and if it did it is caused by what jews have done to arabs over the years from killing raping torturing taking houses and lands
At this stage of the "game" history will prove Palestine as the victim and Israel as the "bad guy". The unacceptable acts of "P terrorism" will be viewed as resistance and the acts of "I control" as opression. Zapata was a terrorist. Che was a terrorist. Even Gen Gurion was a terrorist. Its all a matter of time and history always has the last world. As of today all I can say: May humanity prevail!
@batansb64 I believe that you are wrong. I think that the world, in the future, will view Israel as the stawman which they pointed at while commiting attrocities around the globe & opressing others as well as Muslems. It won't be hard to prove. Much of Europe already realizes the nature of Islam. S America is getting more evangelistic. I don't fear how you judge me because in the end I'm not hear to appease you as you appear to be hear to appease Islam.
@yone71- FYI- PALESTINE was never Turkish, it was occupied by the Turks. It was never British.. and it will never be Zionist Israeli. Palestine is Palestinian Arab, that is the real identity of this land, whether you like it or not- it’s a FACT. I advise you to re-read history carefully and to get your facts right not only Palestine’s history but the world’s history.
@enasmuthaffar Plestine was Ottoman prior to WW1. & where were the Arab riots against their rule ? There weren't any. Cuz this is about Muslem rule of "Pan Arabia". Your "FACT"s are .. well NOT. Jews have lived here through Muslem & Christian opression. Israel today is a shinning light amongst the darkness that is Islam which surrounds us. & while Muslems expelled a million Jews circa 48, it is only the Arabs who moved (most of whom werten't here 1 generation) that we here about. More Pallywood!
@yone71 Israel a Shinning light?! I knew that if we keept this up I would en up with a good laugh. I know many great Israelis whom I call friends but Israel as a State is far from the light. You speak of darkness so you must be blind. I do not defend Islam, or any other religion for that matter but claiming that Islam as such is darkness makes me realize you are not only blind but confused, stupid and probably thinks Fox news is great. Hope the rest of your life is not as bad. Ma Salame!
@batansb64 Israel is a shining light. My opinion, but I can certainly back it up. Even Muslems here have more freedom than any Muslem country in the region. Me calling Islam darkness is actually very accurate. I don't think Fox is great, but thanx for making assumptions. If I were stupid than you'd be a single celled organism living in a cespool. Let's treat each other like our IQs are above 100 & we'll get along fine. My life is great. Thanx !
@yone71 Go in peace yone71. I am glad your life is great so I need not to worry about you. I shall continue to worry about those kids in Gaza and those settler kids in Hebron that are growing up full of hate thinking that it is all in the name of God when it is all in the name of land, freedom and respect. I don't want or need to convince you. Actually my task is to convice those that think that Palestine is all about terrorist that think that Jews are monkeys, that times have changed. Ma Salame
@batansb64 Ma Salame indeed. All the best to you as well Batans. Please don'ttell people you are impartial & then spew religious observations such as "inchala". You have an agenda. Yours is just the 67 borders (never happening). So I wish you all the best & you need not worry about me.
@yone71 oh yeah and 99% of the Palestinians I know realy don't give a shit about Jews they just want their land and freedom back. They can't even move freely in their own cities in their own territories. They can't have a say on their coast or borders or air. And you say the UN "gave" Palestine to the Jews, well it wasn't for the League of Nations (not UN) to give for it was never theirs.
@batansb64 It was never the Arab's of this land either. It was Ottoman! Most Arabs living here were tenant farmers for landlords in Istanbul & Damascus. In fact, most "Palis" came to this land post 1917 seeking jobs under the British Mandate. They are not native so you can cut the crap. They don't have say over their coasts because they smuggle in munitions. Don't make me regret treating you like you have a brain.
Let's discuss the mill Jews expelled from Muslem lands circa 1948 ...
@yone71 So a "tenant" working the land for centuries has less claim to a land than an Immigrant that claims God chose him to have that land or because his ancestors lived there 2500 years ago? And if you are going to discredit all Arabs that emmigrated to Palestine after 1917 then we should do the same with Jews and Zionist that did the same (oh yeah with the help of Judah Magnes). And.. yes..they smuggle ammo and Israel smuggles "legaly" apache helis, atom bombs, etc. You can but they can't!
@batansb64 If I was renting a place for 20 years, would I have any claim of ownership? Plenty of Jews livesd here. But why would more come when under Muslem rule Rabbis were held for ransom, Jews were unequal before the courts, Jewish land was seized, Synagogues were destroyed, etc etc?
As for discrediting the Arabs that moved here past 1917, my point is that most of them have no better claim than most Jews. But at the end of the day Isreal is Judaism's homeland as Arabia is that of Islam.
@batansb64 You are being ridiculous. If Israel was doing with the Apaches what Hamas does with explosives than this would have been over long ago since all the Palestinians would be dead.
Question. Gaza is free. Goods do come in & out, they are just monitored for reasons mentioned already. What have the people & leadership of Gaza done to improve their loives? Have they attempted to attract foreign investment or raise education? (I can prove that they do the opposite quite intentionally).
@yone71 Gaza is free? OK clearly this conversation will go no where. If what is going on in Gaza to you is "freedom with some restrictions" then...Shalom...go in peace.
@batansb64 Gaza has exactly zero Jews in it. Just like the Muslems like. However, instead of showing some good faith when we left, they began rocketing us. I mean within 24 hours. So spare us the "why is Gaza being watched carefully by Israel". They have brought it on themselves.
@batansb64 yone71 I got it: ALL Arabs should live in Arabia ONLY. All Jews in Palestine ONLY. All Christians in ROME only. ALL hindu in INDIA only. etc, etc.
@batansb64 Actually ... the only people living in Arabia are Muslems. There are a few minor exceptions but what I just said is fairlty true. What's more ridiculous about your comment is that while 20% of Israelis are Arabs with more rights than they would have in any Muslem country, the WB & Gaza are Judenrein except for the settlements. Can you imagine a Jewish family living in Gaza & not getting slaughtered?
@yone71- what is your problem? what is this crap? who has a brain? YOU? oh. i must have missed something!! So the Palestinians came to Palestine after 1917? OK. what about my great great...grandfather. I know he was born here! or you don't think so! you know about him more than I do?!!! why make up a fake history about the Palestinians?!! your facts are wrong and fake-i guess you choose them to feel better about yourself as a colonizer and a settler who have no legitimate rights over Palestine.
@enasmuthaffar I have very few problems, but 1 of them is Mulsems who feel entited, such as yourself. The fact that your great great whatever came from here doesn't prove that more than half of the Arabs who call themslevs "Palestinian" didn't come here until after the Brits took over. My facts are facts, hence they are true. Like the fact that over a Mill Jews were expelled from Muslem lands circa 1948 yet 60+ years later you're still bitchin' about the "Palis". Quite pathetic really ...
@yone71 YOUR facts are facts? come on this is really pathetic! i will leave you with lines to read by the great Palestinian poet Mahmoud Darwish, maybe you can learn one thing about Palestine. "Who will live in our home after we leave, father? It shall remain in the same condition as it was, my son. He touches his key, like it is part of his body and he relaxes. While they pass through a thorn fence, he told him: Remember, my son, Here, the English crucified your father. On cactus thorns."
@enasmuthaffar Yes dear Enas .. facts are facts. Not MY facts, just facts. Like the fact that most Arabs displaced in 48 hadn't even been here for 30 years. Here's another 1 for ya. 20% of Israelis are Arabs & enjoy more freedom than they would in any Muslem land. Want to go for 3? Fine. About a mill Jews were expeled from Muslem lands circa 1948 yet the Muslem community focuses solely on the Palis.
As for the poem ..it has no facts! Not sure what I'm meant to take from it. Enlightene us...
@yone71 I know one thing. I know at least 50 Arab Israelis who are treated as 2nd class citizens because they are Khaleds and not Moshes. You and Enas both live in both sides of the "struggle". I am a simple observer from 2000 miles away plus nor Muslim nor a Jew nor Xtian and a fan of peace and if I have been for 2 days involved in this endless discussion its because I believe that for Israel, to be Israel, Palestine and Palestinians need to be: equal and recognized as such.
@batansb64 I am glad that you love peace. I am glad that you live 2,000 miles away & therefor have the luxury of feeling morally superior. Fcat is that Muslems were killing Jews long before 48. I know Arabs here who do feel like 2nd class citizens but also refuse to condemn Arab Israelis that drive bulldozers into Jews. So you can have your opinions, & you can make excuses for Arab & Muslem attrocities but at the end of the day I have to live here & I am well better informed than you. Sorry.
@yone71 I have lived 6 months in Israel and the West Bank and I know what I saw. My opinions are that of an observer. Yours are that of one side of the story.
@batansb64 You could have been here for 20 years, but you dismissing the expultion of a million Jews from Muslem lands without compensation by pointing at Israel shows how ritardedly biased you truely are. You can cut the "bistander" crap out. Any1 with an IQ above 2 wouldn't believe that having read half your posts. Fact is that you dismiss a lot of what has been done by Islam. So here's the challenge: Show me where you demanded something from the Palis. Ever. It doesn't exist. Prove me wrong.
@yone71 Those poor expeled Jews have a country now. Those Palestinians I defend now don't . So 60+ I bitch for justice just as I would (and did) for Jews. FYI: I am anti-religions. I have worked for Israel in kibutz.. I think exteamist (Hams, settlers etc) are just as fucked. I think Jews are beign used by the west and Palestinians by the Arab world in search of power and $. Once again all I said: Inchalla humanity will prevail!!!
@batansb64 Most of the million expelled Jews did not come to israel. They went to France & the US etc. They were expelled from Muslem lands & you excuse Muslem beghavior. That is bigotry. Either against Jews that somehow we should be allowed to be expelled, or against Muslems because you can't expect more from them. What a weak excuse for the expultion of a million Jews! Pathetic really!
You're anti religion & you say "inchalla" ?! You think I'm that stupid?
@yone71 I know you are not stupid just narrow minded and some what ignorant. Anti-religious means I am againts religions... the organization of faith by men that claim they "know" what's in God's mind. Faith should be a personal thing not dictated by Popes, Muftis or Rabbis. And Inchalla I find to be a beautiful word with a beautiful sound to it that reminds ME that everything needs a little bit of luck, faith in one self but at the end of the day not everything is 100% in our control.
@batansb64 Actually I majored in Middle East studies & live here. Is it possible that it is you that is a bit pompous & ignorant living thousands of miles away & presuming to understand what is actually happening here. Pretending to be a non-partisan bistander while actually firmly on the side of Muslem Palestinian Arabs (That's what 95%of them are so let's not pretend otherwise). Using words like Inchala & pretending you don't know it means "if Allah wills it". At least be honest, Hamas is!
@yone71 So Jews lived under Muslem & Christian opression and now it's time for the reverse? That is justice? That is the way of the Bible, Tora or Koran? You see Muslim as darkness and viceversa. So who is right? No one is right, no one is better. Except one side has the atomic bomb and Papa USA using U to defend their economical interests and the other side is simply doing what humans do: fight back. Ironically it turns out it's all Gods fault.
@batansb64 We're not "doing the reverse". We have peace with the 2 people around us who want to have peace. Have you ever considered that what the Palis want isn't peace? Hamas is honest about it. Going back to the 67 borders would only bring a Hudna, a ceasefire. They claim every inch of this land in the name of Islam. At least they are honest. So what makes you think that they want peace & we are the warmongers? It's an assumptrion bordering bigotry in may cases.
@yone71 Very simple. Me and many in the world think the Israeli goverment is going to far. You think we are wrong. OK. But we still think what we think. We still see that building materials can'r make it to Gaza because "it could be used as a weapon". We still see the wall of shame cutting across the land. we still see lines of people just trying to get to the other side. etc, etc
@batansb64 Building materials do make it to Gaza. They just go to aid groups instead of Hamas. That's why Hamas hijacks shipments. There aren't more hungry people in Gaza than anywhere else. They get plenty of aid. That wall saves my life. The only shame here is on you. That wall was, as many things, brought onto the Arabs of the area by their own actions. We have no intention of sacrificing ouselves on your alter of political correctness/bigotry against Jews.
@yone71- You, simply, do not know what you are talking about. You are just using big shinny slogans to mislead other readers on this page. Many disagree with you but don’t even care to reply- others care and did respond, but still you are arguing with deaf ears- nothing can help you except yourself. I really hope it will not be too late then. (to follow)
@enasmuthaffar I live here so let's cut the "you don't know what you're talking about" crap. While a small mionority of Palis are Christian, they are killed in Gaza by their Muslem "bretheren". So let's not pretend that they are unified. I know plenty of Arabn Israelis that dread going back under Muslem rule & are fighting it in our parliament.
"not be too late" .. you mean that Muslem violence will pour on us as it has & does today ?! I do not bow or pander to "Dar al Islam".
And I saw many Arab Israelis trying to cross back into Israel from Jordan treated as 3rd class citizen no wait cattle as while Israelis Jews crossed the border with out problems. See that is Apartheid its a raicist state. In the USA you are American period, and so in France, or Brazil or england or Mexico or Spain. I have traveled most of the world and what I lived over 6 months in Israel tells me it has to change. PERIOD. FREE PALESTINE!
@yone71 You call them Palis? So why do you bother if they call you names? I don't expect to convince you just to point out that Israel’s government needs to start showing some respect towards the world community and its institutions. Since 1948 not one UN resolution has been respected (of course with the blessing of U$A vetoes). The OLSO accords, not one respected. Settlements that keep growing all over the West Bank (not to mention Jerusalem or Al Quds)......
@batansb64 "Palis" is short for Palestinian. That's a long stretch from calling a people decendants of apes & pigs. Calling us that implies that we are beneath Muslems. This is a tenant of Islam. You can not have a non-Muslem manager managing Muslems etc.
When the world community focuses the attention deserved on Muslem human right violations we'll talk. Till then, we owe the "world community" nothing.
The Palis didn't respect the Oslo accords either! Amazing how you point at us only!
@yone71 Maybe "Palis" is short for Palestinian in Hebrew but in English ist's simply not... kosher. I got into this with you because you said: If humanity prevails Islam dies. That implies that you think your religion and there for your self are above all others, specially Muslims and that is something I will die fighting. We are all the same with the same rights. If you think I said that Jews are beneath Muslems I apologize.
israel is the worst thing ever happened to mankind.
yozeR4 3 months ago 3
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I truely agree with you
MANOFBLADE 1 week ago
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the same lies all time.
lol24492 4 months ago
If this conflict was about justice and life, the conflict would have been over in a few days.
If it was about love, there would not be any conflict at all.
Nidair 5 months ago
Bukhari:V5B59N512 "The Prophet had their men killed, their children and woman taken captive."
Quran 33:26 "Allah made the Jews leave their homes by terrorizing them so that you killed some and made many captive. And He made you inherit their lands, their homes, and their wealth. He gave you a country you had not traversed before."
Bukhari:V4B52N270 "Allah’s Messenger said, 'Who is ready to kill Ashraf? He has said injurious things about Allah and His Apostle
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miladmeah 7 months ago
This vid is mad funny...same tired, corny cliches and lies. Same hateful corny, uninformed post from people below..............lol
kleymannie 8 months ago
@kleymannie I agree with you 100%
ThomasJKH 7 months ago
What a load of PROPAGANDA!!!! Islam and Hamas are the problem, not Israel... Israel wants to exist peacefully but muslims will never allow it because they HATE everything non-muslim. Allah = God of HATE. Islam is the worst religion in the world...
ThomasJKH 8 months ago
@ThomasJKH U HV A VERY SICK POLICY... U THINK U CAN DIVERT ISRAEL'S CRIMES BY ATTACKING MUSLIMS. BTW I AM A CHRISTIAN AND ISRAELIS R A BUNCH OF THIEVES.
mrspalestine 7 months ago
@mrspalestine It's true! MUSLIMS are the reason there is no peace in the middle east. You people will never accept Israel, so you create propaganda to make people hate Israel. You people are sick! Have you ever heard of the expression "live and let live" ? You should try it. Leave the people of Israel alone. I hope you know that there are many Muslims living peacefully in Israel also. So stop with your hate. There would be no trouble in that part of the world if Arab countries would back off...
ThomasJKH 7 months ago
@ThomasJKH ISRAELIS WILL LIVE THEIR LIVES IN FEAR & CAN NEVER HV REAL PEACE BECAUSE THEY R NOT WORKING TOWARDS JUSTICE. AND IF U DONT KNOW THE GRAVE CRIMES & INJUSTICES COMMITED BY ISRAEL, DONT BOTHER TO RESPOND.
I BELIEVE THAT EVENTUALLY JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL, & SADLY I ALSO BELIEVE THE WORLD'S JEWS WILL SUFFER 4 ISRAEL'S MISTAKES.
mrspalestine 7 months ago
@mrspalestine Yeah I bet you'd love that you anti-semitic Nazi. I guess you can dream.
If Muslims ever tried to take over Israel I personally would move from Ireland to Israel and join the IDF and help kill you Muslim terrorists.
You are the scum of the world, and the whole world knows it. Just watching the news lastnight I seen how radical muslims in Nigeria are blowing up emergency rooms in hospitals.
You belong to a truly sick cult.
ThomasJKH 7 months ago
@ThomasJKH
1. I am a Christian.
2. Being a Palestinian I am a Semite.
3. As twisted & sick as the Nazis were, at least they were straight with the Jews, they told them "we don't like u & we don't want u" and they paid them the equivelant of their properties to leave Germany. What did Israel do??? They stole Palestinian lands claiming they lived in them 2000 yrs before.
4. I agree with u that radical muslims r freaks, but they r a minority. Israel & injustice is empowering them in M.E.
mrspalestine 7 months ago
@mrspalestine Firstly, not for one second do I believe you're a Christian. You're quite clearly a Muslim hiding his faith so that people will have more respect for his opinions. Sorry, I'm not a fool.
Second, you're openly proclaiming what the Nazis did to the Jews. That makes you one of the most disgusting vile people on the planet. People like you create genocide and mass murder of certain races and minorities.
Thirdly, anti-semitic means to have a hatred towards Jews. Go look it up :)
ThomasJKH 7 months ago
@ThomasJKH
I don't care what u believe. I am a Christian & if I was a Moslem I will never deny it. What kind of people will judge my opinion based on my faith???
The most disgusting & vile people r those who r using the memory of the Holocaust 4 politics. It is Israel who r committing genocides & ethnic cleansing "against certain races".
U r an ignorant fanatic with little education, dont bother to reply to me.
mrspalestine 7 months ago
@mrspalestine You are the only uneducated and uninformed person here. Israel is a wonderful peaceful country. Hamas and other terrorist muslims are the only reason there is not peace in that part of the world. And I stand by my statement that you are a muslim. If you were a Christian you would not be so passionate about the subject. You are just another angry muslim that hates democracy and the west. Have a nice weekend :)
ThomasJKH 7 months ago
@ThomasJKH i can't stand you jews....i'm no palestinian/ arab sympathizer but i simply find it hypocritical for you jews to preach about the holocoust when your own state is nothing more that nazi style! is it true you have web sites which name and shame jewish women who date arab men? i'm all for the state of israel but not for it's "naziism". if it was for me i'd get all the jews in usa and europe and force them to go live in israel at least to stop jewish world domination!
nicky29031977 1 month ago
@nicky29031977 i'm not jewish you imbecile. i'm atheist. how ignorant of you to assume i'm jewish and then start bashing me because of your ignorance. i could as easily say you are muslim by the way you're defending arabs and palestinians. your name is nicky? i'm assuming you're a woman. please go live in palestine for a bit nicky. you'd be running for the israeli border within hours. unless you like being a slave for a lazy muslim man. now fuck off you anti-semitic piece of shit.
ThomasJKH 1 month ago
@ThomasJKH i'm a man and you say you're athiest but into what culture were you born? i'm christian ,non practicing ,european! I said earlier that I don't sympathize anyone in this jew/arab situation but the jews have a long established reputation for pretending to promote peace when in fact they are the aggresors...answer the question about the anti arab dating web site below! As for women , certain jewish groups surpress their women just like muslims!
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@ThomasJKH i'm a man and you say you're athiest but into what culture were you born? i'm christian ,non practicing ,european! I said earlier that I don't sympathize anyone in this jew/arab situation but the jews have a long established reputation for pretending to promote peace when in fact they are the aggresors...answer the question about the anti arab dating web site below! As for women , certain jewish groups surpress their women just like muslims!
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The so called "Palestinians" of today
do not represent a nation or people,
merely a bunch of Wannabe-Nazis
ThePrideOfIsrael 8 months ago
lol..get a life would you? consider to stop suicide bombing or launching rockets or using your own kids as a human shield, and maybe than you can claim justice. fucking assholes..
Ramko1010 11 months ago
@Ramko1010 seriously its you that needs a life, you need a cause to defend a country to live for, those who comet suicide bombing are only framed as Muslims and Arabs but the truth is that Foreign governments are behind them, and defending our selves by rockets is our right Palestinians are being killed tortured everyday and you are saying that we do not have the right to launch rockets and GOD forbid that any of us will use children Muslim Christian Arab or not as a human shield.
msswebat 9 months ago
@Ramko1010 I am amazed when i see people you come and say palestinians use kids as a human sheild. My question that where you come from people became like cows who sit infront of a zionist american Tv and take whatever they say as truth without even questioning logic. You are so dump to the point that if they tell you donald duck is real u will believe. And that is what they want in the US. People who are unable of critical thinking or form their own opinion. That is why u guys watch spongebob
UniteProductions1 8 months ago
THIS is whats GOING ON...
Psalm 83:12,15-18 12 Who said, Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession. 15 So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm. 16 Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O LORD. 17 Let them be confounded and troubled for ever; yea, let them be put to shame, and perish: 18That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.
GET THE FUCK OFF THIER LAND.
shellback1970 11 months ago
@shellback1970 obviously you don't know how to express your opinion without saying "f*ck" and someone who uses those phrases has no right to quote from any of the holy books Pslam, Quraan, Torat or the bible
msswebat 9 months ago
@msswebat How would you know what holy book anyone has a right to qoute from? You listed the quran as a holy book..so its obvious you dont even know what a holy book is...
shellback1970 9 months ago
@shellback1970 as a Muslim i know all the holy book respect all religions and i know that an induvisual who uses such phrases is not worthy of quoting anything said by GOD
msswebat 9 months ago
@msswebat Ok so quote me something from GOD..Im talking something pertaining to GOD being tolerant of other religions..because I do know he said "THOU SHALT NOT HAVE OTHER GODS BEFORE ME." That dosent seem like God is the tolerant type.. Jesus also isnt tolerant of other faiths." NO MAN comes unto the Father but by me." That means Unless your one of his followers you burn in hell period...That dosent leave any room for muhammad's followers. YOUR SCREWED otherwise..
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@shellback1970 "Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors" 2.192. "But if they cease, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful". 2:224:" Do not use God's name in your oaths as an excuse to prevent you from dealing justly."
msswebat 9 months ago
Very Good Video. Thank you... Long Live Palestine. Palestine has a Right to Exist.
99N92 1 year ago
Palestine's new strategy: lie to the western world and try to convince the that Palestinian nationalism (driven by arab humiliation and a pathetic culture of "honor") is actually about "justice" and "human rights."
This propaganda is so transparent, and your real values are so obviously contradictory to western/secular values, this won't work.
LearnedHand2008 1 year ago
Ha! Arab racism against Jews is so much worse that Jewish racism against Arabs. This is 100% pure propaganda. The Palestinian lie machine actually held a conference to promote the use of the words "apartheid" and "racism", openly admitting they were a propaganda tactic. Too bad anyone with eyeballs and goes to an Israeli city can see how utterly false this shit is.
LearnedHand2008 1 year ago
WE ARE COMING PALESTINE WE ARE COMING.
idriss0007 1 year ago
@idriss0007
You're deluded. Israel has 7.5 million people already and you're not going there. You need a reality check.
LearnedHand2008 1 year ago
@LearnedHand2008 Faith my dear faith!
msswebat 9 months ago
fuck israel, if any muslim country was doing what israel have and still are doing, people would be outraged. its israel thats why no one cares.
i hope these peope have a long painfull death.
free palestine from uk
miaminegrofc 1 year ago
at the end israhell will Disappear that s a fact cuz it s not a normal state,
and the world will be finally a peaceful planet
so let s work together citizens of the world to get free from the zionist control on the world
let s fight for Palestine
free free Palestine
amazigh85 1 year ago
1952 - Seven armed Palis' killed a 19 year-old girl in her home,in Jerusalem.
1953 - Palis' threw hand grenades and sprayed gunfire in all directions near Lod, killing 1.
1955 - Palis' killed 2 hikers in the Judea Desert.
1956 - Palis' opened fire on a synagogue at Shafrir. Three children and a worker were killed.
It goes on and on. Before the "occupation". So when the IDF comes, strips them from their weapons and creates security checkpoint, how can they cry about it?
danny1st 1 year ago
@danny1st get the fuck out of palestine, you dont belong their. israel has killed more palestinians than vice - versa.
miaminegrofc 1 year ago
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@miaminegrofc I'm 100% belong there. Maybe all the Arabs should get out of Morocco, Libya, Egypt and so on and go back to Saudi Arabia, where they all came from.
"israel has killed more palestinians than vice - versa." This is a retarded argument. Maybe those damn Jews should apologize for not dying more?
What an idiot.
danny1st 1 year ago
@danny1st hmmm, you're either one-eyed, or blind... or renewably stupid... :-) anyway, it's your private matter, enjoy it...
michalthelion 1 year ago
@michalthelion No, this video is one-eyed, blind and renewable stupid, I just brought the other side up.
I find it funny that the Palis were and still are defying the UN resolution of the creation of Israel by countless attacks before 1967, (as I mentioned a few before) and from the other side they are crying to the UN about being occupied.
But what else is new about Arabs hypocrisy...
danny1st 1 year ago
@danny1st it's not only about the war... Every war is horrible, every war is tragic... The wars have always been provocated by Rotschilds, by the way... But it's also about the behavior of terrorist zionist settlers, all the world knows that, including you, come on, you can't be turning the truth into illusion all the life... You maybe claim that if Islam were ruling Israel that some Muslim would force you to pray or whatever - believe me - nobody posesses any rights like that... nobody...
michalthelion 1 year ago
@michalthelion
Please keep talking about the Rothschilds, so everyone knows you're an antisemitic pig.
LearnedHand2008 1 year ago
@danny1st all the normal people supporting Palestine just want freedom for all, including Jews and whomsoever... the form of freedom Zionists are providing us with - is freedom where they have freedom to bulldose houses and killing "gentiles"... But all the people are the same naturally with same rights to live some cultivated quality life...
michalthelion 1 year ago
@michalthelion
Palestinians will have freedom when they get over the shame of 1948 and stop trying to destroy the Jewish state. Its really that simple. Everything you say is meant to divert attention from this incredibly simple fact.
LearnedHand2008 1 year ago
@danny1st if you want Palestine to be named Israel, fine, why not, but any state that is based on discriminative laws against any group of people living in such state, is simply dangerous even for Jews to live there... It's not a Jewish state, it's a secular state... the grounds of this modern Israel's history are situated in Deir Yassin - and genocide of defenceless Palestinian civilian inhabitants (not settlers neither tourists) living there in tollerance and peace with Jews for long time...
michalthelion 1 year ago
@michalthelion Are you naive or are you try to act like one? #1
1. That Rothschild conspiracy is tasteless to respond to, as all BS theories.
2. Of-course Israel has problem with racism, but no more then any western country and a lot less than it's neighbors.
3. If you mentioned Dir Yasin as a founding event for Palis', what would you say about the Hebron massacre that took place 18 years before that as a founding even for the Jews?
danny1st 1 year ago
@danny1st I condemn Hebron massacre of those Jews and I regret that such thing happened, here clearly I'm writing to you, I condemn it... But I am also insisting on the fact that it's horrible for me that Barukh Goldstein did the same and that settlers are damaging olive trees owned by someone else etc... I condemn every horrible act and I would feel better if we all reflected justly by saying all wrong things are wrong regardless who commits them...
michalthelion 1 year ago
@michalthelion Are you naive or are you try to act like one? #2
4. I don't buy that "defenseless Palestinian civilian inhabitants". the leaders of those "defenseless" people started the clashes and attacks on Jewish populated areas while harboring in their villages for cover. They wanted to drive them all to the sea, and they were the ones who got screwed by their own actions.
danny1st 1 year ago
@michalthelion #3
5. Last time I checked, 20% of IL's citizens are Arabs, mostly in cities where they surrendered back in 48 and some that sneak back.
"Ethnic cleansing" my ass.
6. Everyone knows that it's the Palis' greatest dream to over populate and become the majority of the population, that's why they are kept miserable in refugee camps by their leaders who talks about "freedom", in order to nurture this "right of return" BS.
It's seems you have fallen to this daydream too.
danny1st 1 year ago
@michalthelion
Muslims oppressed Jews for centuries, and Israel has never committed anything close to a genocide. Sudanese Arabs, on the other hand, just did. You're a disgraceful liar who clearly doesn't care about human beings.
LearnedHand2008 1 year ago
@LearnedHand2008 I think you're well paid from taxes of Americans for what you typed here. And I'm sure I think correctly. Your wild effort for placing your empty-minded notes on the internet really posesses power similar to that nuclear one in Dimona but anyway, that's not the point of my reaction to you. I will tell you only one thing - in Catholic Spain, Jews and Muslims were burnt. That time nobody wanted to accept Jews as asylum immigrants - only Islamic Caliphate. I honour human life.
michalthelion 1 year ago 2
@michalthelion
Again, thank you spouting conspiratorial nonsense and acting like what Muslims did 800 years ago, as opposed to today, matters at all. Its amazing that you don't understand how your delusional stupidity hurts the Palestinian cause, and helps Israel.
LearnedHand2008 1 year ago
@LearnedHand2008 and you are clearly dont live on planet earth if you dont see what Jews are doing to Palestinians
msswebat 9 months ago
GO ISRAEL! GO! FUCK THESE ASSHOLES TALKING SHIT!
FUCK APESTINE AND PALLYWOOD!
Kalahridudex 1 year ago
that woman in the end was not head covered!! blasphemy!!
shitake555 1 year ago
Darthmobius: I have lived in the occupied territories, I have worked in the occupied territories, I have been a part of Palestine's struggle for justice for 43 years, so don't lecture to me, putz
Truegret 1 year ago
Really an amazing piece of work. Says a lot, in less than 3 minutes ... it says what people don't want to hear.
AbuQalam 1 year ago
when it comes about palestine, haters always come, remembering nakba, jaffa tragedy, thus tragedy were spinning endlessly almost 50years, GOD never sleep, go Israel as long as you still exist just do whatever you want before being erased again, I dunno how much time Israel gone, the world is better without the existence of Israel, my beloved Father in heaven, please destroy israel as soon as possible
MiguelAngelSepulveda 1 year ago
@MiguelAngelSepulveda Israel doesn't have to be destroyed, they just have to stop being greedy and racist. There is one place on earth where Apartheid still exists: Israel. To call for the destruction of an entire state is short sighted if you believe in God. Palestine/Israel is an open wound in the history of humanity...one that may fester and kill us all. We should pray for peace and promote ideas for the long term good.
AbuQalam 1 year ago
Yone71 is complaining to me privately that I don't know what I'm talking about and that he is not being paid by Israel to post his comments. Problem is that he LIVES in the apartheid state of Israel and he actually has the nerve to say he studies Middle East history. It's so laughable, that I had to post to everyone. If he studies history, it is Zionist history only. If he actually studies history, then he should know that Israel stole the land and has been committing genocide. Shmuck
Truegret 1 year ago 12
@Truegret, Obviously you have a very stunted grasp of reality; pertaing to the middle east and history as a whole. Jews have lived in the region for thousands of years, untill Islam came along with it's Genocidal paradigms and carved up the region for booty, where upon people like you buy in to the bullshit espoused by the likes of the Wahabist/salafist psychopaths, "palastine" was a beautiful; prosperous and peaceful region until the UAE OPEC crude Gang got its Claws in post WWII
DARTHMOBIUS 1 year ago
@Truegret I'm actually not complaining & posting it publicly doesn't make it very "private". Perhaps you should use a dictionary when writting these posts since even small words seem to confuse you. I was merely saying that I don't get paid in response to your allegation that I do. Can you wrap your 2 braincells around that? Israel is, by defenition, not "apartheid". Even Carter states this openly. I studied @ the U of MD @ College Park .. not particularly Zionistic.
Genocide ?! ROFL !!!
yone71 1 year ago
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argonium79 1 year ago
@argonium79 Most of the Jews lived i Eastern Europe, so how is it that Islam saved Judaism again?! Europe is by far the worst Islamo appeasers today & some of the worst anti-Jews traditionally, so you claiming to be European only doesn't really help. Of course this is about religion! Hamas says this openly. They won't let 1 inch of this land not be under Islamic control. It's called "Dar al Islam". Amazing that Hamas is more honest than you about this! What about Muslem traetment of Christians?!
yone71 1 year ago
@argonium79 Of course it's about religion. Hams says that they can't allow 1 inch of this land to be under non-Muslem control. That's religious reason. Now who should I trust, some PC Islamo appeasing inteligencia poser sheep, or Hamas? I think I'll go with the more honest about this issue which is Hamas. Yup .. Hamas is more honest than you .. pathetic !
We don't opress anyone, including Christians. But while we are at it, let's dicuss Muslem Arabs treatment of Christians. Start with Gaza ...
yone71 1 year ago
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argonium79 1 year ago
@argonium79 The tactics are always the same with you Islamo appeasing anti-Jewish bigots. Non-sequitors, repetition of facts that have been proven wrong. Just admit it. You tolorate Jews so long as we are weak, humble & know our place. Well they ain't makin those type of Jews here. Sorry.
We are democratic. We have Arabs at all level of government. Your hate of Jews has blinded you to the point where you support an opressive violent masoganistic movement. You are a typical pathetic European.
yone71 1 year ago
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argonium79 1 year ago
@argonium79 Hitler actually despised any religion. He tolerated Christianity. Where did you say you got your education? The Arabs in Kneset have as much right as any other Knesset member. We have an Arab Supreme Court Justice. Aab policemen & servicemen. Our laws are as they are due to the nature of the beast which surrounds us. A beast whose laws you really don't want me to get into. You opinions about Israel are irrelevant. Israel is as Western as it gets around here. You're inconsequential
yone71 1 year ago
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argonium79 1 year ago
@argonium79 The Jewish community of Iran is a pitance of what it was & dying quickly. Most escaped the Islamic reconquest. As for them having more rights than any Arab in Israel ... ROFL! Muslems here have more rights than in any Muslem country. They can protest so long as it's peaceful & coordinated. Even Muslems in Iran can't do that, much less the Jews. So spare us the absolute absurdities.
yone71 1 year ago
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argonium79 1 year ago
@argonium79 But you criticize only Israel. You criticize us while turning a blind eye to the violence of Islam. A violence that forces us to act in ways we'd rather not. You are, in no uncertain terms, a bigot. Get over it ...
yone71 1 year ago
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argonium79 1 year ago
@argonium79 Of course it's Islam. Even Hamas says it's Islam. I will certainly take their word about what they are fighting for over an Islamo appeasing rhetoric parriting PC Eurotrash sheep like yourself.
It is free go for us now & yet the Pali population is growing & 20% of Israelis are Arabs. If we wanted to, they'd all be dead!
Islam's tenant of "Dar al Islam", the world should be under Muslem control, is the reason for Islamic hatred & eletism over others. You are a bigot .. sorry.
yone71 1 year ago
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argonium79 1 year ago
@argonium79 Jews were not getting along "fine" with the Muslems. We were tolorated so long as we were meak & subservient. In this land unde4r Muslem rule Rabbis were help for ransom, Jews were not equal under the law (we are Dhimmis afrter all), Jewish property was destroyed & taken, the Jewis community was taxed so heavily it had to seak financial assistance from abroad. All this done because Muslems are eleite to Jews. So what the hell are you drivelling on about?! You are sooo ignorant!
yone71 1 year ago
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argonium79 1 year ago
@argonium79 It was far far from perfect! Jewish communities haveincreased almost everywhere .. that's human nature. But that logic the Palis are doing great under Israeli rule! We did fine until the powers that be, wether Muslem of Christians decided that we shouldn't. That is 1 of the best arguments for Israel that there is!
Comparing Jews in the dark ages Christian world to that of Islam is comparing death to utter opression & saying we should be greatful for just being opressed. Pathetic!
yone71 1 year ago
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argonium79 1 year ago
@argonium79 Thjat's funny since Hamas openly states that even not 1 inch of this land can be in Jewish control. That it belongs to Islam. That a return to the 67 borders will lead to a Hudna, a cease fire until Hamas starts fighting again. They are a religious organization! Zionism is for the Jewish nation. I am a staunch Zionist & not religious. Again .. what the hell are you drivelling on about ?!
yone71 1 year ago
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argonium79 1 year ago
@argonium79 Polls are your proof. What a silly twit you are !! As for hasbara .. what do uyou think you are doing?! You excuse Islamic violence & outright lie ! Since 48 it's been us doing things to them ?! In 1974 22 school children were killed in Maalot. Clearly after 48. Not to mention suicide bombers etcv etc etc. What a twisted Euro bigot you truely are! So yes .. the facts speak for themselves ..
yone71 1 year ago
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argonium79 1 year ago
@argonium79 Actually the 1890 .. but the land Jews built farms on was almost exclusively baught from it's owners, landlords residing abroad. That didn't stop Arab Muslems from attacking these communities.
yone71 1 year ago
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argonium79 1 year ago
@argonium79 I'm not cherrypicking you dunce. You said Jews got along great with the Muzies in this land .. that's a lie. You say it's not about Islam for the Palis .. that's a lie. You say that we are racist .. that's a lie. The Christians aare treated far worse in the Muslem world. Just ask the ones in Gaza & Egypt so spare us the pathetic Islamo drivel.
"Goy" just means nation. More eletist Eurotrash BS.
There are plenty of non-Jews living here, just not the ones sworn to kill us. Sorry :(
yone71 1 year ago
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argonium79 1 year ago
@argonium79 You say that we abuse Christians. Enjoy this vid ..
watch?v=_1iM-kzqAGY&feature=related
You really are a bigot. No 2 ways about it really. Blaming us for things that are far worse in the Muslem world. But you should feel good. You are acrrying on a rich tradition of hatred towards Jews in the European community. Good for you.
yone71 1 year ago
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argonium79 1 year ago
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argonium79 1 year ago
@argonium79 Bedouins smuggle weapons & drugs across the Sinai to begoin with. There is also the fact that their namadic lifestyle precludes their kids from getting any sort of education. Those reservations have water, electricity, etc provided by this state. Running around & setting up shop whereever they feel is siply not possible under the circumstances.
Israel has a 20% Arab population not to mention plenty of other nationalities. Just not those sworn to kill us. Sorry :(
yone71 1 year ago
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argonium79 1 year ago
@argonium79 How about the fact that about at the same time that about 4-700,000 Arabs were displaced from this land (most of whome hadn't been here even 30 years in 1948), about a mill Jews were simply expelled from Muslem lands (those that managed not to be publicly hanged). But 60+ years later you are still whinning like a biatch about Arab Muslems (that's all "Palestinians" are). You also don't bother with much worse humanitarian criseas. You are a bigot. Really quite simple.
yone71 1 year ago
@argonium79 It's not some African DooDoo. It's Muslems raping, killing, maiming, & force converting in the name of Islam. Stop pretending that it doesn't matter when Muslems rape a nation & commit what can accurately be decribed as genocide. How unbelieveably pathetic !
yone71 1 year ago
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argonium79 1 year ago
@argonium79 The closest thing resembling NAZIsm today is Islam bar none. How many Jews live in Saudi Arabia? Used to be 3 tribes till Muhamed slaughtered them all (& raped the chieftains daughter .. but that's nother story). How about Libya which had a sizeable Jewish community & today has zero Jews. How about Gaza with zero Jews? Hamas who says a few Jews could remain when Islam takes over but the rest go into the sea? Spare us ...
yone71 1 year ago
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argonium79 1 year ago
@argonium79 The difference .. which I know iss hard for you to understand .. is that I am asking you to simply look around the world. Islam is involved in about 90% of the globe's violent hotspots. Hell, just look at the violence between Muslems & Muslems. As for "massacering" these loving & peaceful people, we do no such thing. In fact, Syria killed more Muslems in 1 day in the town of Hama then Israel ever has! So spare us the BS comparisons & use of words that are simply silly. Pathetic !
yone71 1 year ago
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@argonium79 You have no information about yourself on your profile only lots of anti-Israel material & I'm the propagandist ?! What a hypocritical bigot you are.
yone71 1 year ago
@argonium79 Judiasm is Zionism. Your belief that they are seperate is simply retarded. There is a call to return to Zion in every single prayer including grace after meals. How eletist of you to accept that Islam calls for all men to visit it's homeland, Arabia, but we Jooos have no right to our homeland & that it's agaisnt our religion. Again bigotly pathetic!
yone71 1 year ago
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argonium79 1 year ago
@argonium79 You really like just pulling sh!t out your ass. I'm begining to believe you are retarded son. My point about grace after m,eals is that it shows how connected Judaism is to Zionism. They are 1 & the same. The orthgodox rabanut is in Jerusalem & has no issues with this State.
Hamas is fighting in the name of Islam. They are clear about this. Yet they see no issue with Islam expelling a million Jews or Muslems killing & raping in Africa. How incredibly hypocritical.
yone71 1 year ago
@Truegret
Thanks for posting
PeaceandUnity1972 1 year ago
I mean @Yone71, hahaha did you paid by metabank? Like another mossad terrorists?
MiguelAngelSepulveda 1 year ago
just another pathetic jew's creation, worthless to watch
MiguelAngelSepulveda 1 year ago
Yone71 is a hasbara, someone who works for the state of Israel as a paid PR mouthpiece. Why are any of you giving him the time of day? He is ignorant of the facts of what happened in Palestine, he doesn't care, and he slanders Islam, the Palestinians and those of us working for justice. Leave him out of the conversation and he will eventually go and bother someone else.
Truegret 1 year ago
@Truegret I get paid exactly zero to come on here & tell you dipsh!ts that you are hypocritical Islamo appeasing bigots. I do this for fun. But facts have little to do with your world in which Jews are to be denied their homeland while Islam is to be appeased. I don't have proof that your mom's a whore just like you have no proof that I get paid so if you want to start a slander war, bring it assclown.
I majored in Middle Eastern studies. What have you done again?!
yone71 1 year ago
@yone71
We know you are employed by the Zionist entity as a hasbara propagandist. How much do they pay you? You are not doing a very good job! Admittedly even the world's greatest salesman cannot sell a bad product. Take Dr Joseph Goebbels advice. Keep telling lives until people think it is the truth! lol
petersz98 1 year ago
At the end of the day "Palestinians" are just Arab Muslems (almost exclusively). Just like the other 150+mill in the area. Israel is a mere 0.65% of the Middle East. Islamic greed can not deal with 0.65% of the Middle East not being in their control, especially when Israel is thriving. We Jews should know our place as subordinate Dhimmis. It's a pathetic strawman routine that Islam uses while conducting violence across the globe. Don'y buy the lie !!
yone71 1 year ago
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argonium79 1 year ago
@argonium79 You mean like the Arabs who massacred the Jews of Hebron in 1929 without provocation. The Jewish land & property was taken & has yet to be returned. So spare us the "Jews steal land" crap. Look around the world .. Africa etc ... it is Islam that steals land & opresses others. There is no doubt about this fact.
yone71 1 year ago
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argonium79 1 year ago
@argonium79 You're right .. it was in 29, but it wasn't by some "radicals". These Jews were raped, maimed, & killed by their neighbors!! The rumors of Jews killing Arabs in Jerusalem was started by .. Muslems! Why speak of Rwanda when we can speak of Darfur & Sumalia where Muslems are shoving Sharia down the natives throats .. again with raping, maiming & killing.
Jews were not allies. We were Dhimmis & horribly abused in this land under Muslem rule. You have a warped sense of history.
yone71 1 year ago
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argonium79 1 year ago
@argonium79 Actually I have Arab friends. I was married to a Muslem woman from Iran for a few years. She converted out of Islam & took on Zoroastrianism, a faith crushed in her native Persia by .. you guessed it .. Islam! Want to hear what she has to say about your masoganistic faith ?! So spare us the "you hate Arabs" crap. You know even less about me than about the history of this place.
yone71 1 year ago
@yone71
"Both Israel and South Africa have the same problem we are surrounded by hordes of uncivilised brown people" quote by Jon Vorster Prime Minister of South Africa when he visited Israel in the 1970s and who was imprisoned as a Nazi sympathiser in the 1940s! Both the criminal Zionist entity and the racist Apartheid state are the same built on stolen land from brown people that have to keep carrying out regular massacres of the natives.
BOYCOTT ISRAEL.
Just say "Nein" to 729!
petersz98 1 year ago 2
@petersz98 What does what some S African in the 70s said have to do with what Israel is? Exactly nothing! You pretend that Jews haven't always lived here. You choose to do so because you are a PC Islamo appeasing sheep. Go feel hiolier than though on someone else's dime. As for the NAZI equivilancy BS ... The Arabs of this area actualy were NAZIs!! You're not just a snivling Islamo appeaser .. you're outright ignorant.
"Regular massacre of the natives"? The Palis have an overpopulation problem!
yone71 1 year ago
@yone71
Racist Israel sat on a wall
Racist Israel had a great fall
All the networks and all the newsmen
Couldn't make Israel look better ever again
petersz98 1 year ago 21
@petersz98 It's funny that you still play the "Jews control the media" card. It's expired. Many reporters have come out & openly stated that their networks order them to condemn Israel & report stories that they haven't even coroborated. If anything, the PC media has unabashidly been appeasing Islamic interests at Israel's expense.
PS. Cute poem. You know where you can shove it ...
yone71 1 year ago
@petersz98
This revolting liar just loves throwing out the word "racist" without acknowledging the genocidal racism of Arabs towards Jews, and the fact they still enslave black Africans. Sorry, you disgusting liar, most westerners understand their own values too well to believe your bullshit. It doesn't matter how many time you repeat the word, it doesn't make it true. What else did you learn in Arab Propaganda 101?
LearnedHand2008 1 year ago
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petersz98 1 year ago
@petersz98
you're a lying monkey who doesn't know how to do anything but repeat ridiculous slogans. And your country is a festering pit of Islamist barbarians.
LearnedHand2008 1 year ago
@LearnedHand2008 maybe you should try to have some slogans to live by or learn how to do anything at all like instead of swearing and hate language try to understand what is going on behind your back!
msswebat 9 months ago
@LearnedHand2008 first of all arabs does not enslave black people seconed of all you Westerns have racism upon yourselves how could you not be racist against arabs or muslims for no reason at all thirdly the so called "Genocidal Racism towards Jews" of yours does not exist and if it did it is caused by what jews have done to arabs over the years from killing raping torturing taking houses and lands
msswebat 9 months ago
At this stage of the "game" history will prove Palestine as the victim and Israel as the "bad guy". The unacceptable acts of "P terrorism" will be viewed as resistance and the acts of "I control" as opression. Zapata was a terrorist. Che was a terrorist. Even Gen Gurion was a terrorist. Its all a matter of time and history always has the last world. As of today all I can say: May humanity prevail!
batansb64 1 year ago
@batansb64 I believe that you are wrong. I think that the world, in the future, will view Israel as the stawman which they pointed at while commiting attrocities around the globe & opressing others as well as Muslems. It won't be hard to prove. Much of Europe already realizes the nature of Islam. S America is getting more evangelistic. I don't fear how you judge me because in the end I'm not hear to appease you as you appear to be hear to appease Islam.
yone71 1 year ago
@yone71- FYI- PALESTINE was never Turkish, it was occupied by the Turks. It was never British.. and it will never be Zionist Israeli. Palestine is Palestinian Arab, that is the real identity of this land, whether you like it or not- it’s a FACT. I advise you to re-read history carefully and to get your facts right not only Palestine’s history but the world’s history.
enasmuthaffar 1 year ago
@enasmuthaffar Plestine was Ottoman prior to WW1. & where were the Arab riots against their rule ? There weren't any. Cuz this is about Muslem rule of "Pan Arabia". Your "FACT"s are .. well NOT. Jews have lived here through Muslem & Christian opression. Israel today is a shinning light amongst the darkness that is Islam which surrounds us. & while Muslems expelled a million Jews circa 48, it is only the Arabs who moved (most of whom werten't here 1 generation) that we here about. More Pallywood!
yone71 1 year ago
@yone71 Israel a Shinning light?! I knew that if we keept this up I would en up with a good laugh. I know many great Israelis whom I call friends but Israel as a State is far from the light. You speak of darkness so you must be blind. I do not defend Islam, or any other religion for that matter but claiming that Islam as such is darkness makes me realize you are not only blind but confused, stupid and probably thinks Fox news is great. Hope the rest of your life is not as bad. Ma Salame!
batansb64 1 year ago
@batansb64 Israel is a shining light. My opinion, but I can certainly back it up. Even Muslems here have more freedom than any Muslem country in the region. Me calling Islam darkness is actually very accurate. I don't think Fox is great, but thanx for making assumptions. If I were stupid than you'd be a single celled organism living in a cespool. Let's treat each other like our IQs are above 100 & we'll get along fine. My life is great. Thanx !
yone71 1 year ago
@yone71 Go in peace yone71. I am glad your life is great so I need not to worry about you. I shall continue to worry about those kids in Gaza and those settler kids in Hebron that are growing up full of hate thinking that it is all in the name of God when it is all in the name of land, freedom and respect. I don't want or need to convince you. Actually my task is to convice those that think that Palestine is all about terrorist that think that Jews are monkeys, that times have changed. Ma Salame
batansb64 1 year ago
@batansb64 Ma Salame indeed. All the best to you as well Batans. Please don'ttell people you are impartial & then spew religious observations such as "inchala". You have an agenda. Yours is just the 67 borders (never happening). So I wish you all the best & you need not worry about me.
yone71 1 year ago
@yone71 oh yeah and 99% of the Palestinians I know realy don't give a shit about Jews they just want their land and freedom back. They can't even move freely in their own cities in their own territories. They can't have a say on their coast or borders or air. And you say the UN "gave" Palestine to the Jews, well it wasn't for the League of Nations (not UN) to give for it was never theirs.
batansb64 1 year ago
@batansb64 It was never the Arab's of this land either. It was Ottoman! Most Arabs living here were tenant farmers for landlords in Istanbul & Damascus. In fact, most "Palis" came to this land post 1917 seeking jobs under the British Mandate. They are not native so you can cut the crap. They don't have say over their coasts because they smuggle in munitions. Don't make me regret treating you like you have a brain.
Let's discuss the mill Jews expelled from Muslem lands circa 1948 ...
yone71 1 year ago
@yone71 So a "tenant" working the land for centuries has less claim to a land than an Immigrant that claims God chose him to have that land or because his ancestors lived there 2500 years ago? And if you are going to discredit all Arabs that emmigrated to Palestine after 1917 then we should do the same with Jews and Zionist that did the same (oh yeah with the help of Judah Magnes). And.. yes..they smuggle ammo and Israel smuggles "legaly" apache helis, atom bombs, etc. You can but they can't!
batansb64 1 year ago
@batansb64 If I was renting a place for 20 years, would I have any claim of ownership? Plenty of Jews livesd here. But why would more come when under Muslem rule Rabbis were held for ransom, Jews were unequal before the courts, Jewish land was seized, Synagogues were destroyed, etc etc?
As for discrediting the Arabs that moved here past 1917, my point is that most of them have no better claim than most Jews. But at the end of the day Isreal is Judaism's homeland as Arabia is that of Islam.
yone71 1 year ago
@batansb64 You are being ridiculous. If Israel was doing with the Apaches what Hamas does with explosives than this would have been over long ago since all the Palestinians would be dead.
Question. Gaza is free. Goods do come in & out, they are just monitored for reasons mentioned already. What have the people & leadership of Gaza done to improve their loives? Have they attempted to attract foreign investment or raise education? (I can prove that they do the opposite quite intentionally).
yone71 1 year ago
@yone71 Gaza is free? OK clearly this conversation will go no where. If what is going on in Gaza to you is "freedom with some restrictions" then...Shalom...go in peace.
batansb64 1 year ago
@batansb64 Gaza has exactly zero Jews in it. Just like the Muslems like. However, instead of showing some good faith when we left, they began rocketing us. I mean within 24 hours. So spare us the "why is Gaza being watched carefully by Israel". They have brought it on themselves.
yone71 1 year ago
@batansb64 yone71 I got it: ALL Arabs should live in Arabia ONLY. All Jews in Palestine ONLY. All Christians in ROME only. ALL hindu in INDIA only. etc, etc.
batansb64 1 year ago
@batansb64 Actually ... the only people living in Arabia are Muslems. There are a few minor exceptions but what I just said is fairlty true. What's more ridiculous about your comment is that while 20% of Israelis are Arabs with more rights than they would have in any Muslem country, the WB & Gaza are Judenrein except for the settlements. Can you imagine a Jewish family living in Gaza & not getting slaughtered?
yone71 1 year ago
@yone71- what is your problem? what is this crap? who has a brain? YOU? oh. i must have missed something!! So the Palestinians came to Palestine after 1917? OK. what about my great great...grandfather. I know he was born here! or you don't think so! you know about him more than I do?!!! why make up a fake history about the Palestinians?!! your facts are wrong and fake-i guess you choose them to feel better about yourself as a colonizer and a settler who have no legitimate rights over Palestine.
enasmuthaffar 1 year ago
@enasmuthaffar I have very few problems, but 1 of them is Mulsems who feel entited, such as yourself. The fact that your great great whatever came from here doesn't prove that more than half of the Arabs who call themslevs "Palestinian" didn't come here until after the Brits took over. My facts are facts, hence they are true. Like the fact that over a Mill Jews were expelled from Muslem lands circa 1948 yet 60+ years later you're still bitchin' about the "Palis". Quite pathetic really ...
yone71 1 year ago
@yone71 YOUR facts are facts? come on this is really pathetic! i will leave you with lines to read by the great Palestinian poet Mahmoud Darwish, maybe you can learn one thing about Palestine. "Who will live in our home after we leave, father? It shall remain in the same condition as it was, my son. He touches his key, like it is part of his body and he relaxes. While they pass through a thorn fence, he told him: Remember, my son, Here, the English crucified your father. On cactus thorns."
enasmuthaffar 1 year ago
@enasmuthaffar Yes dear Enas .. facts are facts. Not MY facts, just facts. Like the fact that most Arabs displaced in 48 hadn't even been here for 30 years. Here's another 1 for ya. 20% of Israelis are Arabs & enjoy more freedom than they would in any Muslem land. Want to go for 3? Fine. About a mill Jews were expeled from Muslem lands circa 1948 yet the Muslem community focuses solely on the Palis.
As for the poem ..it has no facts! Not sure what I'm meant to take from it. Enlightene us...
yone71 1 year ago
@yone71 I know one thing. I know at least 50 Arab Israelis who are treated as 2nd class citizens because they are Khaleds and not Moshes. You and Enas both live in both sides of the "struggle". I am a simple observer from 2000 miles away plus nor Muslim nor a Jew nor Xtian and a fan of peace and if I have been for 2 days involved in this endless discussion its because I believe that for Israel, to be Israel, Palestine and Palestinians need to be: equal and recognized as such.
batansb64 1 year ago
@batansb64 I am glad that you love peace. I am glad that you live 2,000 miles away & therefor have the luxury of feeling morally superior. Fcat is that Muslems were killing Jews long before 48. I know Arabs here who do feel like 2nd class citizens but also refuse to condemn Arab Israelis that drive bulldozers into Jews. So you can have your opinions, & you can make excuses for Arab & Muslem attrocities but at the end of the day I have to live here & I am well better informed than you. Sorry.
yone71 1 year ago
@yone71 I have lived 6 months in Israel and the West Bank and I know what I saw. My opinions are that of an observer. Yours are that of one side of the story.
batansb64 1 year ago
@batansb64 You could have been here for 20 years, but you dismissing the expultion of a million Jews from Muslem lands without compensation by pointing at Israel shows how ritardedly biased you truely are. You can cut the "bistander" crap out. Any1 with an IQ above 2 wouldn't believe that having read half your posts. Fact is that you dismiss a lot of what has been done by Islam. So here's the challenge: Show me where you demanded something from the Palis. Ever. It doesn't exist. Prove me wrong.
yone71 1 year ago
@yone71 Those poor expeled Jews have a country now. Those Palestinians I defend now don't . So 60+ I bitch for justice just as I would (and did) for Jews. FYI: I am anti-religions. I have worked for Israel in kibutz.. I think exteamist (Hams, settlers etc) are just as fucked. I think Jews are beign used by the west and Palestinians by the Arab world in search of power and $. Once again all I said: Inchalla humanity will prevail!!!
batansb64 1 year ago
@batansb64 Most of the million expelled Jews did not come to israel. They went to France & the US etc. They were expelled from Muslem lands & you excuse Muslem beghavior. That is bigotry. Either against Jews that somehow we should be allowed to be expelled, or against Muslems because you can't expect more from them. What a weak excuse for the expultion of a million Jews! Pathetic really!
You're anti religion & you say "inchalla" ?! You think I'm that stupid?
yone71 1 year ago
@yone71 I know you are not stupid just narrow minded and some what ignorant. Anti-religious means I am againts religions... the organization of faith by men that claim they "know" what's in God's mind. Faith should be a personal thing not dictated by Popes, Muftis or Rabbis. And Inchalla I find to be a beautiful word with a beautiful sound to it that reminds ME that everything needs a little bit of luck, faith in one self but at the end of the day not everything is 100% in our control.
batansb64 1 year ago
@batansb64 Actually I majored in Middle East studies & live here. Is it possible that it is you that is a bit pompous & ignorant living thousands of miles away & presuming to understand what is actually happening here. Pretending to be a non-partisan bistander while actually firmly on the side of Muslem Palestinian Arabs (That's what 95%of them are so let's not pretend otherwise). Using words like Inchala & pretending you don't know it means "if Allah wills it". At least be honest, Hamas is!
yone71 1 year ago
@yone71 So Jews lived under Muslem & Christian opression and now it's time for the reverse? That is justice? That is the way of the Bible, Tora or Koran? You see Muslim as darkness and viceversa. So who is right? No one is right, no one is better. Except one side has the atomic bomb and Papa USA using U to defend their economical interests and the other side is simply doing what humans do: fight back. Ironically it turns out it's all Gods fault.
batansb64 1 year ago
@batansb64 We're not "doing the reverse". We have peace with the 2 people around us who want to have peace. Have you ever considered that what the Palis want isn't peace? Hamas is honest about it. Going back to the 67 borders would only bring a Hudna, a ceasefire. They claim every inch of this land in the name of Islam. At least they are honest. So what makes you think that they want peace & we are the warmongers? It's an assumptrion bordering bigotry in may cases.
yone71 1 year ago
@yone71 Very simple. Me and many in the world think the Israeli goverment is going to far. You think we are wrong. OK. But we still think what we think. We still see that building materials can'r make it to Gaza because "it could be used as a weapon". We still see the wall of shame cutting across the land. we still see lines of people just trying to get to the other side. etc, etc
batansb64 1 year ago
@batansb64 Building materials do make it to Gaza. They just go to aid groups instead of Hamas. That's why Hamas hijacks shipments. There aren't more hungry people in Gaza than anywhere else. They get plenty of aid. That wall saves my life. The only shame here is on you. That wall was, as many things, brought onto the Arabs of the area by their own actions. We have no intention of sacrificing ouselves on your alter of political correctness/bigotry against Jews.
yone71 1 year ago
@yone71- You, simply, do not know what you are talking about. You are just using big shinny slogans to mislead other readers on this page. Many disagree with you but don’t even care to reply- others care and did respond, but still you are arguing with deaf ears- nothing can help you except yourself. I really hope it will not be too late then. (to follow)
enasmuthaffar 1 year ago
@enasmuthaffar I live here so let's cut the "you don't know what you're talking about" crap. While a small mionority of Palis are Christian, they are killed in Gaza by their Muslem "bretheren". So let's not pretend that they are unified. I know plenty of Arabn Israelis that dread going back under Muslem rule & are fighting it in our parliament.
"not be too late" .. you mean that Muslem violence will pour on us as it has & does today ?! I do not bow or pander to "Dar al Islam".
yone71 1 year ago
And I saw many Arab Israelis trying to cross back into Israel from Jordan treated as 3rd class citizen no wait cattle as while Israelis Jews crossed the border with out problems. See that is Apartheid its a raicist state. In the USA you are American period, and so in France, or Brazil or england or Mexico or Spain. I have traveled most of the world and what I lived over 6 months in Israel tells me it has to change. PERIOD. FREE PALESTINE!
batansb64 1 year ago
@yone71 You call them Palis? So why do you bother if they call you names? I don't expect to convince you just to point out that Israel’s government needs to start showing some respect towards the world community and its institutions. Since 1948 not one UN resolution has been respected (of course with the blessing of U$A vetoes). The OLSO accords, not one respected. Settlements that keep growing all over the West Bank (not to mention Jerusalem or Al Quds)......
batansb64 1 year ago
@batansb64 "Palis" is short for Palestinian. That's a long stretch from calling a people decendants of apes & pigs. Calling us that implies that we are beneath Muslems. This is a tenant of Islam. You can not have a non-Muslem manager managing Muslems etc.
When the world community focuses the attention deserved on Muslem human right violations we'll talk. Till then, we owe the "world community" nothing.
The Palis didn't respect the Oslo accords either! Amazing how you point at us only!
yone71 1 year ago
@yone71 Maybe "Palis" is short for Palestinian in Hebrew but in English ist's simply not... kosher. I got into this with you because you said: If humanity prevails Islam dies. That implies that you think your religion and there for your self are above all others, specially Muslims and that is something I will die fighting. We are all the same with the same rights. If you think I said that Jews are beneath Muslems I apologize.
batansb64 1 year ago