@NAXMUI - what conradiction are you talking about ? Are you doing DAHWA - forget it - Islam is not for me . If you thing you can prove the bible wrong and I will take the shahada - forget it . I would rather eat shit .
@MegaFraudbuster you reading a translation of the old testament, did you actually think the old testaments original language is english? no its hebrew, and if you go up to jew he will tell you the old testament describes the sun and the moon as lamps in the original HEBREW language
@MegaFraudbuster go ahead and follow your man-altered man-corrupted incest book that you call the bible, go ahead and worship jesus who is a creation of god while we muslims worship god alone. tell me something if jesus is god was he praying to himself? was he crying to himself on the cross? you just wait and i too will wait, jesus(pbuh) will make things clear to you christians when he returns. good luck with your corrupted life
@MegaFraudbuster is jesus name really jesus according to the original manuscripts? and if not why have you christians made up a name to suit your ways.
@MegaFraudbuster AHAH you couldn't even answer my question. and no you're wrong jesus mother language was aramaic, the old testament is in the original hebrew language yes but the new testament is not, you should study your own scripture you ignorant fool, why is it that you're ignoring my question regarding the mathematical contradiction of your bible unless you know what i say is true,, follow your pornographic book
@MegaFraudbuster the first person of the holy trinity?, you arrogant fool according to YOU christians the holy spirit, jesus and the father are one being so i repeat myself was jesus crying and praying to himself loool
there is one Qur'an but how many 100's of hadith's are there? just pick and choose what you want from them and chuck it into one book? hmm is your video saying how you don't go in the offensive and just react a total lie?
@MegaFraudbuster don't speak of things you have no knowledge of, if i wanted, i could say the bible is full of incestuous porn, scientific contradictions as well as mathematical contradictions. who are these so called authors: Matthew, Mark etc who jesus never even met in his life
@NAXMUI .................They shall there exchange, one with another, a cup free of frivolity, free of sin, Round about them will serve, (devoted) to them: youths (handsome) as Pearls well-guarded. S. 54:17-24. Even Boys ! WOW !
@swordofmuhammed lol really, really? 54:17-24 talks about the warnings allah gave to the nations,' ad and thamud', its amazing how you you created your own translation of the quran lol, and i want to hear the so called contradictions from YOU
@NAXMUI The Prophet sent Ali to Khalid to bring the Khumus (of the booty) and . . . Ali had taken a bath (after a sexual act with a slave-girl from the Khumus).
What was Muhammad’s response to the person who hated Ali for this sexual act?
Do you hate Ali for this? . . . Don’t hate him, for he deserves more than that from [the] Khumus. (Bukhari)
@MegaFraudbuster islam commands the muslims to love and respect slaves and to treat them with kindness.
Quran 2:177 It is not righteousness that ye turn your faces Towards east or West; but it is righteousness to believe in God and the Last Day, and the Angels, and the Book, and the Messengers; TO SPEND OF YOUR SUBSTANCE, OUT OF LOVE FOR HIM, FOR YOUR KIN, FOR ORPHANS, FOR THE NEEDY, FOR THE WAYFARER, FOR THOSE WHO ASK, AND FOR THE RANSOM OF SLAVES
@MegaFraudbuster in this noble verse, we see that Allah Almighty orders muslims to spend from their money and wealth and to give with love and respect the kin, orphans, the needy, the wayfarer, for those who ask, AND FOR SLAVES. muslims have to help those who need it in their community.
Quran 2:221 "Do not marry unbelieving women (idolaters), until they believe: A SLAVE WOMEN WHO BELIEVES IS BETTER THAN AN UNBELIEVING WOMEN, even though she allures you. Nor marry (your girls) to unbelievers until they believe: A MAN SLAVE WHO BELIEVES IS BETTER THAN AN UNBELIEVER, even though he allures you. Unbelievers do (but) beckon you to the Fire. But God beckons by His Grace to the Garden (of bliss) and forgiveness
@MegaFraudbuster in this verse, we see that Allah Almighty in some cases considers a slave to be better than a free human being. Allah Almighty orders muslims not to marry from the pagans, and He tells us that a slave muslim (who is owned by a non muslim) is better than a non believer, even if that non believer was beautiful.
@MegaFraudbuster Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (pbuh) as saying: "When the slave of anyone amongst you prepares food for him and he serves him after having sat close to (and undergoing the hardship of) heat and smoke, he should make him (the slave) sit along with him and make him eat (along with him), and if the food seems to run short, then he should spare some portion for him (from his own share) - (Sahih Muslim, The Book of Oaths (Kitab Al-Aiman), Book 015, Number 4096)"
@MegaFraudbuster Narrated Al-Ma'rur: "At Ar-Rabadha I met Abu Dhar who was wearing a cloak, and his slave, too, was wearing a similar one. I asked about the reason for it. He replied, "I abused a person by calling his mother with bad names." The Prophet said to me, 'O Abu Dhar! Did you abuse him by calling his mother with bad names You still have some characteristics of ignorance. YOUR SLAVES ARE YOUR BROTHERS and Allah has put them under your command.
So whoever has a brother under his command should feed him of what he eats and dress him of what he wears. Do not ask them (slaves) to do things beyond their capacity (power) and if you do so, then help them.' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Belief, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 29)"
@MegaFraudbuster Narrated Anas: "The Prophet said, 'None of you will have faith till he wishes for his (Muslim) brother [this includes slaves, since a slave is considered a brother as shown above] what he likes for himself.' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Belief, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 12)"
@MegaFraudbuster the reason why muslims had slaves is because when islam was still weak and growing, the arab pagans' tribes used to launch continuous attacks on the muslims to destroy islam once and for all. muslims had entered many bloody and vicious battles against the non believers which had cost both sides many lives from the men. when the muslims used to enter a city after defeating its army, they would face a new dilemma.
they often meet hundreds of non believing women and young children and elderly left without any support because their men had died in the battle field .for this reason, Allah Almighty allowed for the muslims to take those people as slaves to help them survive. keep in mind that during that time, the Muslims didn't have an islamic government and welfare system to take care of the orphans and widows from the non believers.
@MegaFraudbuster the muslims had to take care of them from their own means. prophet Muhammad(pbuh) ordered the muslims to be very sensitive to their slaves. he ordered the muslims to buy the slave young boys and girls the same quality of clothes and gifts that they would buy for their children. he also ordered muslims not to hit or be violent to adult slaves. he ordered Muslims to be loving and caring for them.
@MegaFraudbuster prophet Muhammad(pbuh) also urged wealthy muslims to buy slaves from the pagan arabs and to let them free after that. one of prophet Muhammad's best friends was a slave from Africa called Bilal Al-Habashi. Bilal was bought from his pagan master by Abu Baker Al-Siddeek, one of Muhammad's best friends. after Abu Baker bought Bilal, he set him free.
@MegaFraudbuster islam as I mentioned in the introduction came to fight slavery. Allah Almighty ordered the muslims to gradually liberate slaves and to give them their freedom in many cases.
Quran 4:92 Never should a believer kill a believer; but (If it so happens) by mistake, (Compensation is due): If one (so) kills a believer, it is ordained that he should FREE A BELIEVING SLAVE
@MegaFraudbuster thank you, thats all i wanted to hear from you. all you have done is proven your ignorance and arrogance, praise be to allah that there are still a few good christians out there. peace be upon you
@MegaFraudbuster very nice, very nice keep up with your malicious comments, you've also proven to me you don't believe in jesus otherwise you would have treated me nicely seeing as how jesus states to love your enemies, completely ignoring it. do whatever you want with your life i don't care, and no islam will not fall islam will prevail over all religions IN TIME and when jesus returns in his second coming he will help us wether you like it or not
@NAXMUI Quran 41:9-10 Say: Is it that ye deny Him Who created the earth in two Days? And do ye join equals with Him? He is the Lord of (all) the Worlds.He set on the (earth), mountains standing firm, high above it, and bestowed blessings on the earth, and measure therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion, in four Days, in accordance with (the needs of) those who seek (Sustenance).
Quran 41:11-12 MOREOVER He comprehended in His design the sky, and it had been (as) smoke: He said to it and to the earth: "Come ye together, willingly or unwillingly." They said: "We do come (together), in willing obedience." So He completed them as seven firmaments in two Days, and He assigned to each heaven its duty and command. And We adorned the lower heaven with lights, and (provided it) with guard. Such is the Decree of (Him) the Exalted in Might, Full of Knowledge.
@MegaFraudbuster verse number 11 of starts with the arabic word thumma which can be translated in 3 different ways: one is 'THEN', one is 'MOREOVER' and the other is 'SIMULTANEOUSLY' i know there are many translations of the quran who have translated that word as' THEN' and if you translate it as 'THEN' then theres a contradiction but the exact translation should be thumma should be translated as 'moreover' or 'simultaneously'
@MegaFraudbuster so if you transtale thumma as 'moreover' or 'simultaneously' it will mean that when the earth and the mountains were created in 6 days SIMULTANEOUSLY the heavens were created in 2 days. therefore four days in (41:10) include the two days in (41:9), because the processes described in (41:9-10) form ONE SERIES
@MegaFraudbuster Quran 5:89 "God will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths, but He will call you to account for your deliberate oaths: for expiation, feed ten indigent persons, on a scale of the average for the food of your families; or clothe them; OR GIVE A SLAVE HIS FREEDOM.
another proof that Allah Almighty did encourage Muslims to liberate slaves.
@NAXMUI - stop your rubbish - islamic warriors had sex /adultry with women they captured ! Go fool someone else . Muhammad killed Sophia's husband and had sex with her the very same day ! Nice guy ...
@EAGLESWORKS it doesn't matter what you say to this hypocrite, MegaFraudbuster, he doesn't want to open his eyes, he claims his following the 'love your enemy' path of jesus yet he gives malicious comments regarding the quran and regarding prophet muhammad.
I'll analyse the bible now for you: It's composed of primitive explanations based on regurgitated myths with thousand of contradictions and the inclusion of slavery, racism, incitement to murder, human sacrifice, cannibalism, mutilation, pillage and rape.
Fortunately it's all imagination.
Let's stop reading it - or at least definitely stop acting on it and forcing it into the minds of children.
Peace be with you, and freedom from this monstous book.
@NAXMUI -dumbass - there are more contradictions in your Quran than chins in a chinese teleohone directory ! Just google "contradictions in Quran " and don't waste my time .
@NAXMUI Yahya related to me from Malik from Nafi that Safiyya bint Abi Ubayd told him that Hafsa, umm al-muminin, sent Asim ibn Abdullah ibn Sad to her sister Fatima bint Umar ibn al-Khattab for her to suckle him ten times so that he could come in to see her. She did it, so he used to come in to see her.
(Please note that ten suckling was later abrogated by five suckles)
@NAXMUI It should be noted that Sura 70:29-30, also revealed in Mecca, uses nearly the identical words as Sura 23:5-6. Men must guard their private parts from everyone but their wives and slave-girls, meaning that men may have sex with both "categories" (Maududi’s word).
HOMOSEXUAL !!! ha ..ha .. no wonder islamic countries are homos !
@MegaFraudbuster lol how does that even make sense? you stated men are to guard their private parts from everyone except their wives and what their right hands possess, in what way does that imply homosexuality, can you read?
@MegaFraudbuster "If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, MARRY WOMEN OF YOUR CHOICE, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your RIGHT HANDS POSSESS, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice. (The Noble Quran, 4:3)"
this verse clearly limits the "right had possess" to females or "women of your choice".
@MegaFraudbuster truth: Yahya related to me from Malik from Ibn Shihab from Urwa ibn az-Zubayr that A'isha umm al-muminin told him that Aflah, the brother of Abu'l-Quays came and asked permission to visit her after the veil had been lowered, and he was her paternal uncle by suckling. She said, "I refusedto give him permission to enter. When the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, came, I told him about what I had done, and he ordered me to give him permission to enter."
@MegaFraudbuster54:17-21And We have indeed made the Qur'an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?The 'Ad (people) (too) rejected (Truth): then how terrible was My Penalty and My Warning?For We sent against them a furious wind, on a Day of violent Disaster,Plucking out men as if they were roots of palm-trees torn up (from the ground).ea, how (terrible) was My Penalty and My Warning!
quran 54:23-24 The Thamud (also) rejected (their) Warners.For they said: "What! a man! a Solitary one from among ourselves! shall we follow such a one? Truly should we then be straying in mind, and mad!
SO AS YOU CAN SEE THE VERSES YOU PRESENTED DOES NOT TALK ABOUT YOUTHS OR PEARLS
Who is the witness account for the koran?The koran was compiled 150 years after Muhammad died. Many accounts state he was poisoned by one of his wives. Unlike the other Prophets of the Old Testament, the koran does not contain any prophecy which was fulfilled that was written by Muhammad. There are websites that accurately point out contradictions and untruths in the koran. One is the Crucification of Christ. They deny it and refuse to to realize that it is recorded historically & in the Bible.
@vasilyjc1955 the prophet muhammad was born in the dawn of written history. every detailied and account of his life was written down by schoolars. historians know more about the prophet muhammad than they do about the prophets jesus or moses. i can tell you that he wasn't poisoned, and that his cousin, ali compiled all of the divine verses sent to him by god immediately after his death. also note that most of the companions of the prophet knew the quran off by heart
@vasilyjc1955 and on another note, can you please tell me a SECULAR piece of sound historical evidence that the prophet jesus was crucified? read my other comment please
If the truth is really important to us then lets pray to God that the truth may be shone upon us, and open up our minds and hearts to be able to except the purity of it, for God hears All prayers.
Truth is without ignorance, opening our eyes to it, is up to us and God. And to me, proving evidences from the Qur'an is as clear as proving oxygen exist.
he said can be argued with logic and common sense. Would you follow a teacher to expect you to just trust'em wih his/her/its lessons instead of having one who tells you the logical reasons and shows you evidences behind every lessons? If you are, then i know of only God is able to understand why. Believing without sufficient knowledge about it, only leads ourself astray, away from the truth.
We have no right to judge or to hold strong opinions againts something as complex as Religion whn knw so little/a portion of it. We're like secondary students coming together commenting/hating on PHD holders saying that they're wrong. or even a destists telling a heart surgeons how should a heart surgery be done, it is unfair, wrong and fatal. I trust SamiZaatari cuz i believe he's a scholar of both the Bible and the Qur'an having to talk to strongly about it and the fact that nothing ...
Whatever. I know that they are bashing Islam and you are just stiking back. I don't blame you, i would too. But, if the Bible is a lie then why are so many people trying to kick God out? I mean pat Condell is wasting so much time bitching that you and i are stupid because of a lie. The Bible isn't a lie because wars were won and nation were builded with the Bible as a foundation and its not going anywhere any time soon.
@SamiZaatari bla bla bla bla...my holy book is better than your holy book, my religion is better than your religion, my god is better than your god...the quran is just yet another "holy" book in a long series of "holy" books claiming to have a monopoly on the truth. it's just a book, written by some guy(s) at some point in time....get over it. god (if he exists) doesn't write books...he's too busy running the universe...people, on the other hand, do write books.
peace be unto everyone, even if someone insults others, retaliation is not necessary, this is a sensitive and at the core, the way your presenting brother can be a bit harsh to people of christian faith, i've studied on my own a bit of the OT and NT, no need for bad words back and forth, its a matter of salvation, i've read the bible cause i wanted to know what jesus says in the bible even though im a muslim, so if you say your christian read the bible and study what jesus says not no one else
What is ironic about this video is that all the information presented here is sourced from the Christians themselves, who trust the Bible. Nothing new...
Take your video about the apocripha, remove the words, "Catholic" and "protestants" and replace them with "shiite" and "sunni" then ask yourself the very same questions about how you know which is teaching is true from which isn't; and which written work is inspired or not.
Also, I can guarantee which book isn't in the Catholic and Protestant Bibles.
Finally: The above discussion of the passages S. 28:48-49 and 46:10, 12 is merely one small aspect of a foundational dilemma for Islam. Several hundred years after the death of Muhammad & completion of the Quran, Muslims have developed their theory of Bible Corruption because they realized the teachings of Bible and Quran contradicted each other. However, this theory fails to achieve its purpose, i.e. to maintain the authority of the Quran.
@JackSparrowDepp AND also, I would like answers to all questions that I have posted here. ALL of them...especially about the life of muhammed as recorded in the hadith.
(1)Muhammad believed he was mentioned in the Bible-How could he refer to a book that was corrupt & speaking of him.(2)Muhammad was trying to reach the Jews & some Christian sects-It would be impossible for these people to be reached if he accuses their Bible as corrupt (3)It would be difficult to say that God's word can be corrupted, since the Quran testifies that God's words are protected by God. That is why the Bible's integrity & purity is evident the moment one reads the Arabic Quran.
no matter what the f*ck*n qur'an says i blame all the f*ck*n muslims for the chaotic activies in this world. muslims and the f*ck*n qur'an are the roots of all evil!!! f*ck the the qur'an!!! burn it!!! kill the f*ck*n muslims!!!!
@pamuk7 NO ONE CAN DEBATE YOU>>>YOU FOOL! It's not about the debate, but the truth...you'll see Jesus when u die...& muhammed cannot save you. When u stand naked before Christ you will have to give an account for your life of denial...and when u answer He'll tell you that your destiny will be a HOT one!
@pamuk7 How about the story of the pedophilic prophet--where's that found...check in the hadith. How old was muhammed's 5th wife--see the hadith of Bukhari, volume 5, #234-she was 9 & he had sex with her in his 50's-Muhammed had black slaves and female slaves... Volume 9, Book 91, Number 368. LOOK for the horrors in islam before you try to attack God, Jesus, the Bible, & Christians! I'll debate you any day...and you'll lose...BIG!
@Angelis469 visit my web site: the pedofile game doesnt work anymore: google my web site: 10 easy steps refuting the slander of the prophet muhammed to aisha.
I would like to high light from the web site i have the proof that you jesus God inpreganted Mary when she was only 12 years old and the 12 year old little girl was married to 90 yr old jospeh./
@pamuk7 Hello there! I was hoping you'd chime in! Now then, I would like you answer each & every question I have asked re the hadith and muhammed's personal life. If you are a smart as you say you are, then this should be a good discussion. We may have to message eachother as you know there's never enough room to write here. Keep in touch. God bless you.
The Bible Corruption polemic contradicts the plain teaching of the Quran and implies that the Quran contains absurd statements and internal contradictions. This also has to lead to a rejection of the Quran as being the Word of God.
Under neither of these assumptions can it be maintained that the Quran is the Word of God.
@JackSparrowDepp U told me u are a convert from atheism. Please bring on the real muslims...the ones that actually speak their mother tongue. You cannot speak Arabic...I guess that means u are the uneducated one.
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Johannes 3:16 Denn so hat Gott die Welt geliebt, daß er seinen eingeborenen Sohn gab, damit jeder, der an ihn glaubt, nicht verloren gehe, sondern ewiges Leben habe.
@Angelis469 Yeah I played with you a bit and you fell to that. Guys, can you believe that this Christian was sending me pm with Christian prayers to pray to Jesus to save me? Unbelieveable but true :))))))))))) For these Christians religion is nothing more than a tribalism, they think that their religion has a divine right to be true while all others are wrong and evil! A very big surprise is awating them! :))
@JackSparrowDepp A child, a convert to islam...a former atheist..TALK ABOUT SOMEONE WHO'S LOST. Now he told me he played a game...like a kid in a schoolyard..he comes to YouTube to play games of faith. Have u ever heard of something so stupid? I sent you prayers to help you see...I say you were better off being am atheist. At least I was born Christian...I had not shifted religions three times already...rollercoasters get you no where.
@JackSparrowDepp actually, every baby is born an atheist...with a blank mind, a clean slate. they don't know anything and they don't believe in anything until their parents fill their heads with all kinds of nonsense. human babies were being born for hundreds of thousands of years before any religions were invented. so atheism (or having no beliefs) is actually the default position.
@Angelis469 Also Christian apologetics claim that the quran never says the bible is corrupt but it does...
[2:75] Do you expect them to believe as you do, when some of them used to hear the word of GOD, then distort it, with full understanding thereof, and deliberately?
but so does the God in the bible...
Jeremiah 8;8
"'How can you say, "We are wise because we have the word of the LORD," when your teachers have twisted it by writing lies?
The Catholic Church (Canon: 73 books)The Protestant Church (Canon: 66 books)Greek Orthodox Church (Canon: 77 books)The Coptic Church(Canon: 29 books in NT)The Ethiopic Church (Canon: 81 books)
wikileaks rumor. CIA MEMO, placed on wiki and removed due to death threats from Muslims.The memo described a conversation between the Imam and a Funding source.(China Islamic Association). The conversation discussed a tunnel from the Mosque to the Freedom Tower to weaken the Tower's support beams untill it collapses. The Mosque is also to be filled with Timothy McVeigh style explosives large enough to cause an explosion 100x the size of the oklahoma city bombing see video @iamopinionated123
every video i see your just slandering christians and you get mad when we slander muslims for good reason and you have no reason for us we let you in are country aided you in the war with soviets and you repair us by killing us fuck you and your people your a hipocrite you stupid fuck and an ugly one whos never gonna get laid
I think the reason it's said it's not important is because of how, if you understand the message in its entirety, all are not necessary, but they all fit with and confirm each other; the extra is good for sharpening faith and discernment, and good for anyone looking to investigate.
A little too much doubt with the whole pandora's box thing, lol :)
There's a little exaggeration in here, too... you know that! ;)
of course we can tell which books are uninspired, those 7 books do not agree with the original apostles, they were only added so the Catholic church can justify their traditions. ...and furthermore, how can anyone know whether or not a verse is a forgery? It is impossible to tell unless you have an "original"... this is why this video is unreliable because there are millions of versions of the Bible and if one man forges verses then it only affects one version of the Bible... do you understand?
You have obviously been listenening to Ahmed Deedat too long. You say what if these books were left out or added that God didn't want. So I ask you this If Islam is the truth why would Allah allow them. I believe Christ is the only way to heaven and I believe Islam is a lie.
I totally agree. I would add one more thing. The bible is also written by primitive simple minds. This is why it's full of contradictions and retarded ideas. It also has GOOD ideas like "do not kill" etc.
I would also say that other scripture suffers the exact same problems. This is why each part of each book must be accepted or rejected on a case by case basis.
You are right, the Bible cannot be trusted, as any book of "God" cannot be trusted since they are all written by man and inspired by the thought and imagination of man. Religion of all types were and are used for one thing and that is to control a population of people. Religion is a great tool for governments to keep people in line. They have no plausible, scientifically concluding facts in any of them and are backed by lose history.
Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in their sleeping places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great. (Shakir's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)
This argument would seem to apply to the Qu'ran too. Each culture has their own story, their own inspired book. The Mormons have one, Tom Cruise's cult has one, Islam has one, everyone has one. I can't help but replace "The Bible" with any holy text in this video of yours. Your argument makes perfect sense, but it would apply to all Holy text. Difficult to determine the author or intent of ancient texts. As least as to the fine details. Wouldn't you agree? Show me an untainted Holy book.
Qur'an is unique everywhere and wasn't changed. There Qur'ans in many different countries and from many different centuries still available, and you know what all of them are the same.
@JackSparrowDepp The author of the Quran believed that the Holy Bible, or at least the book of Moses, met the Quran’s challenge to produce something like it. Yet if, as Muslims often claim, the book of Moses had been tampered with then how can a corrupted text BE LIKE THE QURAN seeing that it is no longer purely divine in origin? How can human additions match the so-called divinely inspired Quranic text?
@JackSparrowDepp The above discussion of the passages S. 28:48-49 and 46:10, 12 is merely one small aspect of a foundational dilemma for Islam. Several hundred years after the death of Muhammad and completion of the Quran, Muslims have developed their theory of Bible Corruption because they realized the teachings of Bible and Quran contradicted each other. However, this theory fails to achieve its purpose, i.e. to maintain the authority of the Quran. This is the dilemma:
@JackSparrowDepp The above discussion of the passages S. 28:48-49 and 46:10, 12 is merely one small aspect of a foundational dilemma for Islam. Several hundred years after the death of Muhammad and completion of the Quran, Muslims have developed their theory of Bible Corruption because they realized the teachings of Bible and Quran contradicted each other. However, this theory fails to achieve its purpose, i.e. to maintain the authority of the Quran.
@Angelis469 Go read exkiel 23: talk about mens penises like donkeys. And womens breats fondled and played with and she lusted over there huge penises. The bible is a free sex magazine.
@pamuk7 NOWHERE does it say that! I think u must be referring to muhammed having sex with his 9-yr-old bride. AGAIN, The Bible Corruption polemic contradicts the plain teaching of the Quran and implies that the Quran contains absurd statements and internal contradictions. This also has to lead to a rejection of the Quran as being the Word of God.
@JackSparrowDepp 1.The Quran presumes that the previous Scriptures existed in a pure form during Muhammad’s time 2. The Quran teaches that at least parts, if not all, of the previous Scriptures are similar to the Quran, and even match it, in terms of content and guidance.3.If you accept the Quran's verdict that the Torah is like it (S. 28:49, 46:10), then the challenge was met before it was issued.
@Angelis469 GOD in the Qur'an asks people of the previous scriptures to read their books and compare because of the preserved truthful information. Yet the challenge of the Qur'an in its poetic structure. Arabs were masters of poems at that time and Qur'an challenged them (now us too) with its structure. Arabs tried to imitate but failed. U of course don't see that struture because all u do is reading its translation. U lost the case. No go and play your icons.
@JackSparrowDepp Pt. 2: Are we to assume that the author of the Quran was asserting that a corrupted text claiming to be the book of Moses was of equal value as the Quran?
The difference is that if we try to look for errors in the bible we can actually find them , but in the Quran there is none , 'till this day no one has ever came up with a genuine clear cut mistake or contradiction in the Quran , will there are tons in the bible.
You Must understand what brother Sami says ! He says and talks about the corruption of the Holy Books ,he is not against the Torah, nor against the real non corrupted Gospel . Don't blame him .
So are you trying to say that the Bible the book of Allah can not be trusted or shouldn't be followed? Wow this is a big disaster against Allah to have books that can not be trusted. Muslim dummies! The Quran says Allah sent down the Torat, the Psalms, the books of the prophets and the Injeel can you name me one other book on this planet that contains all of these? No it's the Bible. Now if you want to say the Bible is corrupted, who was able to screw with your god Allah and corrupt his words?
Oh James have you asked youre self why the gospel of James is not in the bible you do know that he was profeth jesus broder why?? Ok becuse his gospel did not portrait him as divine not a bit. And James not jesus broder you, i wanna ask you this who did this job of puting in gospels that where to thire standards, Hmm think now james and all other whom deny the truth, it was Emperor Constantine a big time pagan and worshipper of demons. So yes the bible is inspired by satan. sorry to say.
The reason why there is no gospel of James is because James didn't write one. Actually no they didn't put gospels that fit their standards at all you've never read them like all Muslims. The gospels contain story's of Jesus humanity not just his divinity and the gospels were established way before Constantine. So show me where I can find the real Torah, the real Zabuul and the real Injeel's of Allah today so I can read them and know if my Bible has been corrupted or not and is inspired by Satan.
Be certain to remember me Hamza muhammad Mustafa told you the truth about islam,so when you get that visit when you die dont blame anybody except yourself for dismissing the creater.I want for you that I want for myself. One day Allah willing you will come to know my words are 100% true.oh yeah I love japanese people they totally rock and are very wonderful.we all have good and bad but japanese people move me
Correction hebrew came before aramiac well established fact. even in my family some can still speak fluent aramiac but I understand it more then speak it fluently it has almost the same alphabet as hebrew.even yeshua ben miriam listened to rabbi's teaching from scrolls in hebrew and he himself taught from the hebrew but he himself spoke aramaic.peace
wha? moses is the one with the commandments......i said moses right? yeah moses and the ten commandments....there was even a movie made about it...how is the moses story after the ten commandments....????
and i dont think he killed anybody(well the one dude but none besides that) especially being he smashed those tablets and went back up the mountian....
and he says Worship no god before me....so woship HIM FIRST
Brother the guy called japaneseboy11111 speaks true. he knows the bible pretty well. And your comment to him was weak because facts are facts beloved moshes(pbuh) killed those dirty infidels as commanded by Allah.
This video made me feel better about that never mind.
Terrorist12341 8 months ago
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Terrorist12341 8 months ago
samizaatri - there is no problem ! You are such an idiot you make straw mans ,
MegaAngrycat 8 months ago
@MegaAngrycat if the book is from god why isn't it addressing mankind?
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@MegaAngrycat answer the mathematical contradiction in the bible i pointed out then i will refute your second point
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@NAXMUI - which contradiction ? did not get thequestion. This guy above is doing my head in .
MegaFraudbuster 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster look at my previous comments concerning the order of creation according to the bible?
NAXMUI 8 months ago
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@MegaFraudbuster ORDER OF CREATION ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE: Genesis 1:1 to Genesis 2:3
1. Heaven and Earth
2. Light (night and day)
3. Sky
4. Plants
5. Sun, moon, and stars
6. Fish and birds
7. Land animals
8. Man and woman at the same time
NAXMUI 8 months ago
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@MegaFraudbuster order of creation according to the bible: genesis 2:4 to genesis 2:25
1. Man
2. Plants
3. Birds and land animals
4. Woman
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster point out the mathematical contradiction below, if you cant then ill do it for you.
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster stop changing the subject and EXPLAIN the mathematical contradiction
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@NAXMUI - what conradiction are you talking about ? Are you doing DAHWA - forget it - Islam is not for me . If you thing you can prove the bible wrong and I will take the shahada - forget it . I would rather eat shit .
MegaFraudbuster 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster you reading a translation of the old testament, did you actually think the old testaments original language is english? no its hebrew, and if you go up to jew he will tell you the old testament describes the sun and the moon as lamps in the original HEBREW language
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster go ahead and follow your man-altered man-corrupted incest book that you call the bible, go ahead and worship jesus who is a creation of god while we muslims worship god alone. tell me something if jesus is god was he praying to himself? was he crying to himself on the cross? you just wait and i too will wait, jesus(pbuh) will make things clear to you christians when he returns. good luck with your corrupted life
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster is jesus name really jesus according to the original manuscripts? and if not why have you christians made up a name to suit your ways.
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster AHAH you couldn't even answer my question. and no you're wrong jesus mother language was aramaic, the old testament is in the original hebrew language yes but the new testament is not, you should study your own scripture you ignorant fool, why is it that you're ignoring my question regarding the mathematical contradiction of your bible unless you know what i say is true,, follow your pornographic book
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster the first person of the holy trinity?, you arrogant fool according to YOU christians the holy spirit, jesus and the father are one being so i repeat myself was jesus crying and praying to himself loool
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster as far as i know your not even a christian, you're just a lost, confused pitiful fool
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster i prefer to have an intellectual discussion with someone searching for the truth not with some arrogant fiend like you
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster Genesis 1:16, GOD Almighty created two lamps, the sun and the moon, each giving an independent light to earth. T
the hebrew says "two lamps", meaning each giving off its independent light. does the moon give out its own light?
NAXMUI 8 months ago
there is one Qur'an but how many 100's of hadith's are there? just pick and choose what you want from them and chuck it into one book? hmm is your video saying how you don't go in the offensive and just react a total lie?
ucdeBZ 9 months ago
@ucdeBZ - there is only one false Quran !
MegaFraudbuster 9 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster don't speak of things you have no knowledge of, if i wanted, i could say the bible is full of incestuous porn, scientific contradictions as well as mathematical contradictions. who are these so called authors: Matthew, Mark etc who jesus never even met in his life
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@NAXMUI - you want me to show you porn in Islam ? Maybe you skipped those pages !
swordofmuhammed 8 months ago
@NAXMUI .................They shall there exchange, one with another, a cup free of frivolity, free of sin, Round about them will serve, (devoted) to them: youths (handsome) as Pearls well-guarded. S. 54:17-24. Even Boys ! WOW !
swordofmuhammed 8 months ago
@swordofmuhammed lol really, really? 54:17-24 talks about the warnings allah gave to the nations,' ad and thamud', its amazing how you you created your own translation of the quran lol, and i want to hear the so called contradictions from YOU
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@NAXMUI The Prophet sent Ali to Khalid to bring the Khumus (of the booty) and . . . Ali had taken a bath (after a sexual act with a slave-girl from the Khumus).
What was Muhammad’s response to the person who hated Ali for this sexual act?
Do you hate Ali for this? . . . Don’t hate him, for he deserves more than that from [the] Khumus. (Bukhari)
MegaFraudbuster 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster are you quoting these because of the whole sex slave thing?
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster islam commands the muslims to love and respect slaves and to treat them with kindness.
Quran 2:177 It is not righteousness that ye turn your faces Towards east or West; but it is righteousness to believe in God and the Last Day, and the Angels, and the Book, and the Messengers; TO SPEND OF YOUR SUBSTANCE, OUT OF LOVE FOR HIM, FOR YOUR KIN, FOR ORPHANS, FOR THE NEEDY, FOR THE WAYFARER, FOR THOSE WHO ASK, AND FOR THE RANSOM OF SLAVES
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster in this noble verse, we see that Allah Almighty orders muslims to spend from their money and wealth and to give with love and respect the kin, orphans, the needy, the wayfarer, for those who ask, AND FOR SLAVES. muslims have to help those who need it in their community.
NAXMUI 8 months ago
Quran 2:221 "Do not marry unbelieving women (idolaters), until they believe: A SLAVE WOMEN WHO BELIEVES IS BETTER THAN AN UNBELIEVING WOMEN, even though she allures you. Nor marry (your girls) to unbelievers until they believe: A MAN SLAVE WHO BELIEVES IS BETTER THAN AN UNBELIEVER, even though he allures you. Unbelievers do (but) beckon you to the Fire. But God beckons by His Grace to the Garden (of bliss) and forgiveness
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster in this verse, we see that Allah Almighty in some cases considers a slave to be better than a free human being. Allah Almighty orders muslims not to marry from the pagans, and He tells us that a slave muslim (who is owned by a non muslim) is better than a non believer, even if that non believer was beautiful.
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (pbuh) as saying: "When the slave of anyone amongst you prepares food for him and he serves him after having sat close to (and undergoing the hardship of) heat and smoke, he should make him (the slave) sit along with him and make him eat (along with him), and if the food seems to run short, then he should spare some portion for him (from his own share) - (Sahih Muslim, The Book of Oaths (Kitab Al-Aiman), Book 015, Number 4096)"
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster Narrated Al-Ma'rur: "At Ar-Rabadha I met Abu Dhar who was wearing a cloak, and his slave, too, was wearing a similar one. I asked about the reason for it. He replied, "I abused a person by calling his mother with bad names." The Prophet said to me, 'O Abu Dhar! Did you abuse him by calling his mother with bad names You still have some characteristics of ignorance. YOUR SLAVES ARE YOUR BROTHERS and Allah has put them under your command.
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster CONTINUED:
So whoever has a brother under his command should feed him of what he eats and dress him of what he wears. Do not ask them (slaves) to do things beyond their capacity (power) and if you do so, then help them.' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Belief, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 29)"
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster Narrated Anas: "The Prophet said, 'None of you will have faith till he wishes for his (Muslim) brother [this includes slaves, since a slave is considered a brother as shown above] what he likes for himself.' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Belief, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 12)"
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster the reason why muslims had slaves is because when islam was still weak and growing, the arab pagans' tribes used to launch continuous attacks on the muslims to destroy islam once and for all. muslims had entered many bloody and vicious battles against the non believers which had cost both sides many lives from the men. when the muslims used to enter a city after defeating its army, they would face a new dilemma.
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster CONTINUED:
they often meet hundreds of non believing women and young children and elderly left without any support because their men had died in the battle field .for this reason, Allah Almighty allowed for the muslims to take those people as slaves to help them survive. keep in mind that during that time, the Muslims didn't have an islamic government and welfare system to take care of the orphans and widows from the non believers.
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster the muslims had to take care of them from their own means. prophet Muhammad(pbuh) ordered the muslims to be very sensitive to their slaves. he ordered the muslims to buy the slave young boys and girls the same quality of clothes and gifts that they would buy for their children. he also ordered muslims not to hit or be violent to adult slaves. he ordered Muslims to be loving and caring for them.
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster prophet Muhammad(pbuh) also urged wealthy muslims to buy slaves from the pagan arabs and to let them free after that. one of prophet Muhammad's best friends was a slave from Africa called Bilal Al-Habashi. Bilal was bought from his pagan master by Abu Baker Al-Siddeek, one of Muhammad's best friends. after Abu Baker bought Bilal, he set him free.
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster islam as I mentioned in the introduction came to fight slavery. Allah Almighty ordered the muslims to gradually liberate slaves and to give them their freedom in many cases.
Quran 4:92 Never should a believer kill a believer; but (If it so happens) by mistake, (Compensation is due): If one (so) kills a believer, it is ordained that he should FREE A BELIEVING SLAVE
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@NAXMUI - believer but they were free to do whatever they wanted with unbelievers !!
MegaFraudbuster 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster thank you, thats all i wanted to hear from you. all you have done is proven your ignorance and arrogance, praise be to allah that there are still a few good christians out there. peace be upon you
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@NAXMUI - good christians will be the dead ones if we don't kick you guys out of Europe . Islam seeks to dominate .
MegaFraudbuster 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster very nice, very nice keep up with your malicious comments, you've also proven to me you don't believe in jesus otherwise you would have treated me nicely seeing as how jesus states to love your enemies, completely ignoring it. do whatever you want with your life i don't care, and no islam will not fall islam will prevail over all religions IN TIME and when jesus returns in his second coming he will help us wether you like it or not
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@NAXMUI - in your dreams ! Jesus will destroy the anti-christ -islam.
MegaAngrycat 8 months ago
@MegaAngrycat prove islam is the antichrist from your bible
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@NAXMUI Quran 41:9-10 Say: Is it that ye deny Him Who created the earth in two Days? And do ye join equals with Him? He is the Lord of (all) the Worlds.He set on the (earth), mountains standing firm, high above it, and bestowed blessings on the earth, and measure therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion, in four Days, in accordance with (the needs of) those who seek (Sustenance).
NAXMUI 8 months ago
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Quran 41:11-12 MOREOVER He comprehended in His design the sky, and it had been (as) smoke: He said to it and to the earth: "Come ye together, willingly or unwillingly." They said: "We do come (together), in willing obedience." So He completed them as seven firmaments in two Days, and He assigned to each heaven its duty and command. And We adorned the lower heaven with lights, and (provided it) with guard. Such is the Decree of (Him) the Exalted in Might, Full of Knowledge.
NAXMUI 8 months ago
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@MegaFraudbuster lool the so called contradictions in the video you sent me have already been refuted
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster i just pointed out a mathematical contradiction in the bible why art you refuting it?
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster verse number 11 of starts with the arabic word thumma which can be translated in 3 different ways: one is 'THEN', one is 'MOREOVER' and the other is 'SIMULTANEOUSLY' i know there are many translations of the quran who have translated that word as' THEN' and if you translate it as 'THEN' then theres a contradiction but the exact translation should be thumma should be translated as 'moreover' or 'simultaneously'
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster so if you transtale thumma as 'moreover' or 'simultaneously' it will mean that when the earth and the mountains were created in 6 days SIMULTANEOUSLY the heavens were created in 2 days. therefore four days in (41:10) include the two days in (41:9), because the processes described in (41:9-10) form ONE SERIES
therefore there is no contradiction
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster Quran 5:89 "God will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths, but He will call you to account for your deliberate oaths: for expiation, feed ten indigent persons, on a scale of the average for the food of your families; or clothe them; OR GIVE A SLAVE HIS FREEDOM.
another proof that Allah Almighty did encourage Muslims to liberate slaves.
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@NAXMUI - stop your rubbish - islamic warriors had sex /adultry with women they captured ! Go fool someone else . Muhammad killed Sophia's husband and had sex with her the very same day ! Nice guy ...
MegaFraudbuster 8 months ago
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@MegaFraudbuster ORDER OF CREATION ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE: Genesis 1:1 to Genesis 2:3
1. Heaven and Earth
2. Light (night and day)
3. Sky
4. Plants
5. Sun, moon, and stars
6. Fish and birds
7. Land animals
8. Man and woman at the same time
NAXMUI 8 months ago
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@MegaFraudbuster order of creation according to the bible: genesis 2:4 to genesis 2:25
1. Man
2. Plants
3. Birds and land animals
4. Woman
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster try to refute this mathematical contradiction
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@NAXMUI -which ?
MegaAngrycat 8 months ago
@MegaAngrycat if your smart enough ill let you figure it out but if you cant ill show you
NAXMUI 8 months ago
muhammad was the founder of terrorism - can the QURAN BE THE WORD OF GOD?
MegaFraudbuster 9 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster could you just show YOUR problem and dont repeat the ediot saying speak with your voice and your word so what do you think ?
EAGLESWORKS 9 months ago
@EAGLESWORKS it doesn't matter what you say to this hypocrite, MegaFraudbuster, he doesn't want to open his eyes, he claims his following the 'love your enemy' path of jesus yet he gives malicious comments regarding the quran and regarding prophet muhammad.
NAXMUI 8 months ago
The only reason i have a bible in my house is because i use its pages to start fires.
BTW : Bible are written by people .
gazzxr 9 months ago
Can You Trust the Bible?
No!
I'll analyse the bible now for you: It's composed of primitive explanations based on regurgitated myths with thousand of contradictions and the inclusion of slavery, racism, incitement to murder, human sacrifice, cannibalism, mutilation, pillage and rape.
Fortunately it's all imagination.
Let's stop reading it - or at least definitely stop acting on it and forcing it into the minds of children.
Peace be with you, and freedom from this monstous book.
StrumstickJoe 10 months ago
This is fucking stupid. All "Holy" books are the acclaimed word of God. None of them are, get over it.
BARNEYRAPEDME69 10 months ago
And the Qur'an is flawless?
Raoult007 11 months ago
@Raoult007 yes, the quran is flawless
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@NAXMUI -dumbass - there are more contradictions in your Quran than chins in a chinese teleohone directory ! Just google "contradictions in Quran " and don't waste my time .
swordofmuhammed 8 months ago
@NAXMUI Yahya related to me from Malik from Nafi that Safiyya bint Abi Ubayd told him that Hafsa, umm al-muminin, sent Asim ibn Abdullah ibn Sad to her sister Fatima bint Umar ibn al-Khattab for her to suckle him ten times so that he could come in to see her. She did it, so he used to come in to see her.
(Please note that ten suckling was later abrogated by five suckles)
Malik’s Muwatta: Book 30, Number 30.3.17:
MegaFraudbuster 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster lool suckling 10 times or 5 times? woow continue to invent more lies
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@NAXMUI It should be noted that Sura 70:29-30, also revealed in Mecca, uses nearly the identical words as Sura 23:5-6. Men must guard their private parts from everyone but their wives and slave-girls, meaning that men may have sex with both "categories" (Maududi’s word).
HOMOSEXUAL !!! ha ..ha .. no wonder islamic countries are homos !
MegaFraudbuster 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster lol how does that even make sense? you stated men are to guard their private parts from everyone except their wives and what their right hands possess, in what way does that imply homosexuality, can you read?
NAXMUI 8 months ago
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@MegaFraudbuster "If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, MARRY WOMEN OF YOUR CHOICE, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your RIGHT HANDS POSSESS, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice. (The Noble Quran, 4:3)"
this verse clearly limits the "right had possess" to females or "women of your choice".
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster truth: Yahya related to me from Malik from Ibn Shihab from Urwa ibn az-Zubayr that A'isha umm al-muminin told him that Aflah, the brother of Abu'l-Quays came and asked permission to visit her after the veil had been lowered, and he was her paternal uncle by suckling. She said, "I refusedto give him permission to enter. When the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, came, I told him about what I had done, and he ordered me to give him permission to enter."
NAXMUI 8 months ago
@MegaFraudbuster so where on earth did you get your corrupted version from? an anti islamic website?
NAXMUI 8 months ago
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@MegaFraudbuster 54:17-21And We have indeed made the Qur'an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?The 'Ad (people) (too) rejected (Truth): then how terrible was My Penalty and My Warning?For We sent against them a furious wind, on a Day of violent Disaster,Plucking out men as if they were roots of palm-trees torn up (from the ground).ea, how (terrible) was My Penalty and My Warning!
NAXMUI 8 months ago
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@MegaFraudbuster CONCLUSION:
quran 54:23-24 The Thamud (also) rejected (their) Warners.For they said: "What! a man! a Solitary one from among ourselves! shall we follow such a one? Truly should we then be straying in mind, and mad!
SO AS YOU CAN SEE THE VERSES YOU PRESENTED DOES NOT TALK ABOUT YOUTHS OR PEARLS
NAXMUI 8 months ago
Who is the witness account for the koran?The koran was compiled 150 years after Muhammad died. Many accounts state he was poisoned by one of his wives. Unlike the other Prophets of the Old Testament, the koran does not contain any prophecy which was fulfilled that was written by Muhammad. There are websites that accurately point out contradictions and untruths in the koran. One is the Crucification of Christ. They deny it and refuse to to realize that it is recorded historically & in the Bible.
vasilyjc1955 1 year ago
@vasilyjc1955 the prophet muhammad was born in the dawn of written history. every detailied and account of his life was written down by schoolars. historians know more about the prophet muhammad than they do about the prophets jesus or moses. i can tell you that he wasn't poisoned, and that his cousin, ali compiled all of the divine verses sent to him by god immediately after his death. also note that most of the companions of the prophet knew the quran off by heart
Omarh96 1 year ago
@vasilyjc1955 and on another note, can you please tell me a SECULAR piece of sound historical evidence that the prophet jesus was crucified? read my other comment please
Omarh96 1 year ago
*Can be as clear as proving oxygen exist.
nc89 1 year ago
If the truth is really important to us then lets pray to God that the truth may be shone upon us, and open up our minds and hearts to be able to except the purity of it, for God hears All prayers.
Truth is without ignorance, opening our eyes to it, is up to us and God. And to me, proving evidences from the Qur'an is as clear as proving oxygen exist.
nc89 1 year ago 2
he said can be argued with logic and common sense. Would you follow a teacher to expect you to just trust'em wih his/her/its lessons instead of having one who tells you the logical reasons and shows you evidences behind every lessons? If you are, then i know of only God is able to understand why. Believing without sufficient knowledge about it, only leads ourself astray, away from the truth.
nc89 1 year ago
We have no right to judge or to hold strong opinions againts something as complex as Religion whn knw so little/a portion of it. We're like secondary students coming together commenting/hating on PHD holders saying that they're wrong. or even a destists telling a heart surgeons how should a heart surgery be done, it is unfair, wrong and fatal. I trust SamiZaatari cuz i believe he's a scholar of both the Bible and the Qur'an having to talk to strongly about it and the fact that nothing ...
nc89 1 year ago
Whatever. I know that they are bashing Islam and you are just stiking back. I don't blame you, i would too. But, if the Bible is a lie then why are so many people trying to kick God out? I mean pat Condell is wasting so much time bitching that you and i are stupid because of a lie. The Bible isn't a lie because wars were won and nation were builded with the Bible as a foundation and its not going anywhere any time soon.
kenfla2 1 year ago
@SamiZaatari bla bla bla bla...my holy book is better than your holy book, my religion is better than your religion, my god is better than your god...the quran is just yet another "holy" book in a long series of "holy" books claiming to have a monopoly on the truth. it's just a book, written by some guy(s) at some point in time....get over it. god (if he exists) doesn't write books...he's too busy running the universe...people, on the other hand, do write books.
MisterB4x 1 year ago
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MisterB4x 1 year ago
the quran stole most of the old testament, parts of the new testament and then added it's own material. the quran is the ultimate religious forgery.
extrapressure 1 year ago
wanna hear the biggest myth of all? muslim tolerance.
extrapressure 1 year ago
peace be unto everyone, even if someone insults others, retaliation is not necessary, this is a sensitive and at the core, the way your presenting brother can be a bit harsh to people of christian faith, i've studied on my own a bit of the OT and NT, no need for bad words back and forth, its a matter of salvation, i've read the bible cause i wanted to know what jesus says in the bible even though im a muslim, so if you say your christian read the bible and study what jesus says not no one else
ajhersi2 1 year ago
I don't like shouting too much
umm86 1 year ago
@zgavser As soon as logic/rational thinking hits a christian regarding religion...
He says "WHAT? NO ! SATAN!!!! keep the voices of satan out"
LOL what pathetic ideology.
Who ever is a christian LOL has scooped down EXTREMLY LOW
The Quran is the truth, we have proof. The book rhymes and is memorized/ we have agreeing manuscripts... CHECKMATE christians
See you in hell , unless you give up your worship of Jesus and start opening your mind. But you sir.. Your probably going to hell for sure zgavs
MahyarAkbar 1 year ago
What is ironic about this video is that all the information presented here is sourced from the Christians themselves, who trust the Bible. Nothing new...
littlegank 1 year ago
Can the Qu'ran be trusted?
Take your video about the apocripha, remove the words, "Catholic" and "protestants" and replace them with "shiite" and "sunni" then ask yourself the very same questions about how you know which is teaching is true from which isn't; and which written work is inspired or not.
Also, I can guarantee which book isn't in the Catholic and Protestant Bibles.
The Qu'ran.
The rest of the video is arguing from silence.
pretoshohmoofc 1 year ago 2
John 3:16
For our Arabic-speaking brothers & sisters...Christians really do love you...believe us & the Words of Jesus.
لأَنَّهُ هكَذَا أَحَبَّ اللهُ الْعَالَمَ حَتَّى بَذَلَ ابْنَهُ الْوَحِيدَ، لِكَيْ لاَ يَهْلِكَ كُلُّ مَنْ يُؤْمِنُ بِهِ، بَلْ تَكُونُ لَهُ الْحَيَاةُ الأَبَدِيَّةُ.
Angelis469 1 year ago
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Angelis469 1 year ago
@zgavser Yea, delusional but still full of strong logical fact.
katkoben 1 year ago
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Finally: The above discussion of the passages S. 28:48-49 and 46:10, 12 is merely one small aspect of a foundational dilemma for Islam. Several hundred years after the death of Muhammad & completion of the Quran, Muslims have developed their theory of Bible Corruption because they realized the teachings of Bible and Quran contradicted each other. However, this theory fails to achieve its purpose, i.e. to maintain the authority of the Quran.
Angelis469 1 year ago
@Angelis469 So basically yoz claim that the Quran we have now and the Quran of Muhammed are not same? Changed, altered?
JackSparrowDepp 1 year ago
@JackSparrowDepp Please respond to the lterature that I sent to you...then we can talk.
Angelis469 1 year ago
@JackSparrowDepp AND also, I would like answers to all questions that I have posted here. ALL of them...especially about the life of muhammed as recorded in the hadith.
Angelis469 1 year ago
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(1)Muhammad believed he was mentioned in the Bible-How could he refer to a book that was corrupt & speaking of him.(2)Muhammad was trying to reach the Jews & some Christian sects-It would be impossible for these people to be reached if he accuses their Bible as corrupt (3)It would be difficult to say that God's word can be corrupted, since the Quran testifies that God's words are protected by God. That is why the Bible's integrity & purity is evident the moment one reads the Arabic Quran.
Angelis469 1 year ago
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no matter what the f*ck*n qur'an says i blame all the f*ck*n muslims for the chaotic activies in this world. muslims and the f*ck*n qur'an are the roots of all evil!!! f*ck the the qur'an!!! burn it!!! kill the f*ck*n muslims!!!!
nsison51 1 year ago
Hello: i have a major problem with my Bible its Missing (Acts 8:37,MARK 9:44,JOHN 5:4, Can anyone Help? NOT found in NIV BIBLE?
pamuk7 1 year ago
@pamuk7 NO ONE CAN DEBATE YOU>>>YOU FOOL! It's not about the debate, but the truth...you'll see Jesus when u die...& muhammed cannot save you. When u stand naked before Christ you will have to give an account for your life of denial...and when u answer He'll tell you that your destiny will be a HOT one!
Angelis469 1 year ago
Sami you are right i checked the oldest bible: Codex siniticus, stroy of the adulterous lady is missing not in the oldest CODEX.
pamuk7 1 year ago
@pamuk7 How about the story of the pedophilic prophet--where's that found...check in the hadith. How old was muhammed's 5th wife--see the hadith of Bukhari, volume 5, #234-she was 9 & he had sex with her in his 50's-Muhammed had black slaves and female slaves... Volume 9, Book 91, Number 368. LOOK for the horrors in islam before you try to attack God, Jesus, the Bible, & Christians! I'll debate you any day...and you'll lose...BIG!
Angelis469 1 year ago
@Angelis469 visit my web site: the pedofile game doesnt work anymore: google my web site: 10 easy steps refuting the slander of the prophet muhammed to aisha.
I would like to high light from the web site i have the proof that you jesus God inpreganted Mary when she was only 12 years old and the 12 year old little girl was married to 90 yr old jospeh./
pamuk7 1 year ago
@pamuk7 impregnated
pamuk7 1 year ago
@pamuk7 Hello there! I was hoping you'd chime in! Now then, I would like you answer each & every question I have asked re the hadith and muhammed's personal life. If you are a smart as you say you are, then this should be a good discussion. We may have to message eachother as you know there's never enough room to write here. Keep in touch. God bless you.
Angelis469 1 year ago
The Bible Corruption polemic contradicts the plain teaching of the Quran and implies that the Quran contains absurd statements and internal contradictions. This also has to lead to a rejection of the Quran as being the Word of God.
Under neither of these assumptions can it be maintained that the Quran is the Word of God.
Angelis469 1 year ago
@Angelis469 You are really uneducated man. "Corrupted" doesn't mean "totally substituted". Get it.
JackSparrowDepp 1 year ago
@JackSparrowDepp U told me u are a convert from atheism. Please bring on the real muslims...the ones that actually speak their mother tongue. You cannot speak Arabic...I guess that means u are the uneducated one.
Angelis469 1 year ago
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@JACKsparrowDepp THE MESSAGE
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Johannes 3:16 Denn so hat Gott die Welt geliebt, daß er seinen eingeborenen Sohn gab, damit jeder, der an ihn glaubt, nicht verloren gehe, sondern ewiges Leben habe.
Angelis469 1 year ago
@Angelis469 Yeah I played with you a bit and you fell to that. Guys, can you believe that this Christian was sending me pm with Christian prayers to pray to Jesus to save me? Unbelieveable but true :))))))))))) For these Christians religion is nothing more than a tribalism, they think that their religion has a divine right to be true while all others are wrong and evil! A very big surprise is awating them! :))
JackSparrowDepp 1 year ago
@JackSparrowDepp A child, a convert to islam...a former atheist..TALK ABOUT SOMEONE WHO'S LOST. Now he told me he played a game...like a kid in a schoolyard..he comes to YouTube to play games of faith. Have u ever heard of something so stupid? I sent you prayers to help you see...I say you were better off being am atheist. At least I was born Christian...I had not shifted religions three times already...rollercoasters get you no where.
Angelis469 1 year ago
@Angelis469 "At least I was born Christian.." muahahahahahahahaha
Please somebody teach this blind follower with what religion every baby is born! lololololol
JackSparrowDepp 1 year ago
@JackSparrowDepp actually, every baby is born an atheist...with a blank mind, a clean slate. they don't know anything and they don't believe in anything until their parents fill their heads with all kinds of nonsense. human babies were being born for hundreds of thousands of years before any religions were invented. so atheism (or having no beliefs) is actually the default position.
MisterB4x 1 year ago
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@Angelis469 Also Christian apologetics claim that the quran never says the bible is corrupt but it does...
[2:75] Do you expect them to believe as you do, when some of them used to hear the word of GOD, then distort it, with full understanding thereof, and deliberately?
but so does the God in the bible...
Jeremiah 8;8
"'How can you say, "We are wise because we have the word of the LORD," when your teachers have twisted it by writing lies?
NaseerHammed 1 year ago
Whos canon is inspired:
The Catholic Church (Canon: 73 books)The Protestant Church (Canon: 66 books)Greek Orthodox Church (Canon: 77 books)The Coptic Church(Canon: 29 books in NT)The Ethiopic Church (Canon: 81 books)
pamuk7 1 year ago
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wikileaks rumor. CIA MEMO, placed on wiki and removed due to death threats from Muslims.The memo described a conversation between the Imam and a Funding source.(China Islamic Association). The conversation discussed a tunnel from the Mosque to the Freedom Tower to weaken the Tower's support beams untill it collapses. The Mosque is also to be filled with Timothy McVeigh style explosives large enough to cause an explosion 100x the size of the oklahoma city bombing see video @iamopinionated123
iamopinionated123 1 year ago
every video i see your just slandering christians and you get mad when we slander muslims for good reason and you have no reason for us we let you in are country aided you in the war with soviets and you repair us by killing us fuck you and your people your a hipocrite you stupid fuck and an ugly one whos never gonna get laid
JGR737 1 year ago
I think the reason it's said it's not important is because of how, if you understand the message in its entirety, all are not necessary, but they all fit with and confirm each other; the extra is good for sharpening faith and discernment, and good for anyone looking to investigate.
A little too much doubt with the whole pandora's box thing, lol :)
There's a little exaggeration in here, too... you know that! ;)
krononomikon 1 year ago
of course we can tell which books are uninspired, those 7 books do not agree with the original apostles, they were only added so the Catholic church can justify their traditions. ...and furthermore, how can anyone know whether or not a verse is a forgery? It is impossible to tell unless you have an "original"... this is why this video is unreliable because there are millions of versions of the Bible and if one man forges verses then it only affects one version of the Bible... do you understand?
WhatAreYouBuyen 1 year ago
your on gas mate
mancworzel 1 year ago
You have obviously been listenening to Ahmed Deedat too long. You say what if these books were left out or added that God didn't want. So I ask you this If Islam is the truth why would Allah allow them. I believe Christ is the only way to heaven and I believe Islam is a lie.
nuffsaid5800 1 year ago
I totally agree. I would add one more thing. The bible is also written by primitive simple minds. This is why it's full of contradictions and retarded ideas. It also has GOOD ideas like "do not kill" etc.
I would also say that other scripture suffers the exact same problems. This is why each part of each book must be accepted or rejected on a case by case basis.
eproulx 1 year ago
You are right, the Bible cannot be trusted, as any book of "God" cannot be trusted since they are all written by man and inspired by the thought and imagination of man. Religion of all types were and are used for one thing and that is to control a population of people. Religion is a great tool for governments to keep people in line. They have no plausible, scientifically concluding facts in any of them and are backed by lose history.
willbscene360 1 year ago 2
@willbscene360 Could not have said it better myself =)
mysticsicness 1 year ago
Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in their sleeping places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great. (Shakir's version of the Koran, Quran, 4:34)
Aladinaa1 1 year ago
This argument would seem to apply to the Qu'ran too. Each culture has their own story, their own inspired book. The Mormons have one, Tom Cruise's cult has one, Islam has one, everyone has one. I can't help but replace "The Bible" with any holy text in this video of yours. Your argument makes perfect sense, but it would apply to all Holy text. Difficult to determine the author or intent of ancient texts. As least as to the fine details. Wouldn't you agree? Show me an untainted Holy book.
SnowWalkerOne 1 year ago 2
@SnowWalkerOne
"but it would apply to all Holy text."
You assume here; you have never read all the holly books available out there, Have you?
Quran is the perfect book with pin point accuracy; read few chapters and you will eventually understand, if God wish you to be saved
hraqhraq 1 year ago
@SnowWalkerOne
Qur'an is unique everywhere and wasn't changed. There Qur'ans in many different countries and from many different centuries still available, and you know what all of them are the same.
JackSparrowDepp 1 year ago
@JackSparrowDepp The author of the Quran believed that the Holy Bible, or at least the book of Moses, met the Quran’s challenge to produce something like it. Yet if, as Muslims often claim, the book of Moses had been tampered with then how can a corrupted text BE LIKE THE QURAN seeing that it is no longer purely divine in origin? How can human additions match the so-called divinely inspired Quranic text?
Angelis469 1 year ago
@Angelis469 Explain explicitly what you mean? Where does it say that the Bible is like Qur'an?
JackSparrowDepp 1 year ago
@JackSparrowDepp PLease read the research...and then get back to me via messaging...as we both know there's never enough space here for thoughts.
Angelis469 1 year ago
@JackSparrowDepp The above discussion of the passages S. 28:48-49 and 46:10, 12 is merely one small aspect of a foundational dilemma for Islam. Several hundred years after the death of Muhammad and completion of the Quran, Muslims have developed their theory of Bible Corruption because they realized the teachings of Bible and Quran contradicted each other. However, this theory fails to achieve its purpose, i.e. to maintain the authority of the Quran. This is the dilemma:
Angelis469 1 year ago
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@JackSparrowDepp The above discussion of the passages S. 28:48-49 and 46:10, 12 is merely one small aspect of a foundational dilemma for Islam. Several hundred years after the death of Muhammad and completion of the Quran, Muslims have developed their theory of Bible Corruption because they realized the teachings of Bible and Quran contradicted each other. However, this theory fails to achieve its purpose, i.e. to maintain the authority of the Quran.
Angelis469 1 year ago
@Angelis469 Go read exkiel 23: talk about mens penises like donkeys. And womens breats fondled and played with and she lusted over there huge penises. The bible is a free sex magazine.
pamuk7 1 year ago
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@pamuk7 NOWHERE does it say that! I think u must be referring to muhammed having sex with his 9-yr-old bride. AGAIN, The Bible Corruption polemic contradicts the plain teaching of the Quran and implies that the Quran contains absurd statements and internal contradictions. This also has to lead to a rejection of the Quran as being the Word of God.
Angelis469 1 year ago
@JackSparrowDepp 1.The Quran presumes that the previous Scriptures existed in a pure form during Muhammad’s time 2. The Quran teaches that at least parts, if not all, of the previous Scriptures are similar to the Quran, and even match it, in terms of content and guidance.3.If you accept the Quran's verdict that the Torah is like it (S. 28:49, 46:10), then the challenge was met before it was issued.
Angelis469 1 year ago
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@Angelis469 "1.The Quran presumes that the previous Scriptures existed in a pure form during Muhammad’s time"
Nope, it doesn't. Nobody said that, never.
JackSparrowDepp 1 year ago
@Angelis469 GOD in the Qur'an asks people of the previous scriptures to read their books and compare because of the preserved truthful information. Yet the challenge of the Qur'an in its poetic structure. Arabs were masters of poems at that time and Qur'an challenged them (now us too) with its structure. Arabs tried to imitate but failed. U of course don't see that struture because all u do is reading its translation. U lost the case. No go and play your icons.
JackSparrowDepp 1 year ago
@JackSparrowDepp Pt. 2: Are we to assume that the author of the Quran was asserting that a corrupted text claiming to be the book of Moses was of equal value as the Quran?
Angelis469 1 year ago
Ye-Ye-Ye, your god has a bigger dick.
Nobody cares... I already noticed that the Bible is full of shit and so is your religion.
DavySigfusson 1 year ago
I love when he exposes bible
DrXoz 2 years ago
there lessons, and the added books were made my normal people not during the time when the bible was even originated!!!!!!!!
nubscientology 2 years ago
OLD NEWS!
We all know the bible is altered so much..
BulgyVeins 2 years ago
@EternalGreen2012
The difference is that if we try to look for errors in the bible we can actually find them , but in the Quran there is none , 'till this day no one has ever came up with a genuine clear cut mistake or contradiction in the Quran , will there are tons in the bible.
Tchado1000 2 years ago
"Humans are the ones that make up lies and stories through their minds"
Like God, for instance.
rgmztxy 2 years ago
Thank you very much
MX2341 2 years ago
You Must understand what brother Sami says ! He says and talks about the corruption of the Holy Books ,he is not against the Torah, nor against the real non corrupted Gospel . Don't blame him .
np33123 2 years ago
So are you trying to say that the Bible the book of Allah can not be trusted or shouldn't be followed? Wow this is a big disaster against Allah to have books that can not be trusted. Muslim dummies! The Quran says Allah sent down the Torat, the Psalms, the books of the prophets and the Injeel can you name me one other book on this planet that contains all of these? No it's the Bible. Now if you want to say the Bible is corrupted, who was able to screw with your god Allah and corrupt his words?
james48890743 2 years ago
Oh James have you asked youre self why the gospel of James is not in the bible you do know that he was profeth jesus broder why?? Ok becuse his gospel did not portrait him as divine not a bit. And James not jesus broder you, i wanna ask you this who did this job of puting in gospels that where to thire standards, Hmm think now james and all other whom deny the truth, it was Emperor Constantine a big time pagan and worshipper of demons. So yes the bible is inspired by satan. sorry to say.
lallre21 2 years ago
The reason why there is no gospel of James is because James didn't write one. Actually no they didn't put gospels that fit their standards at all you've never read them like all Muslims. The gospels contain story's of Jesus humanity not just his divinity and the gospels were established way before Constantine. So show me where I can find the real Torah, the real Zabuul and the real Injeel's of Allah today so I can read them and know if my Bible has been corrupted or not and is inspired by Satan.
james48890743 2 years ago
Be certain to remember me Hamza muhammad Mustafa told you the truth about islam,so when you get that visit when you die dont blame anybody except yourself for dismissing the creater.I want for you that I want for myself. One day Allah willing you will come to know my words are 100% true.oh yeah I love japanese people they totally rock and are very wonderful.we all have good and bad but japanese people move me
ryukenb2k 2 years ago
For a atheist you sure know the bible. I suspect you ponder on our origins and if their is indeed a creator?
ryukenb2k 2 years ago
Correction hebrew came before aramiac well established fact. even in my family some can still speak fluent aramiac but I understand it more then speak it fluently it has almost the same alphabet as hebrew.even yeshua ben miriam listened to rabbi's teaching from scrolls in hebrew and he himself taught from the hebrew but he himself spoke aramaic.peace
ryukenb2k 2 years ago
wha? moses is the one with the commandments......i said moses right? yeah moses and the ten commandments....there was even a movie made about it...how is the moses story after the ten commandments....????
and i dont think he killed anybody(well the one dude but none besides that) especially being he smashed those tablets and went back up the mountian....
and he says Worship no god before me....so woship HIM FIRST
thelastgoodpunk 2 years ago
Brother the guy called japaneseboy11111 speaks true. he knows the bible pretty well. And your comment to him was weak because facts are facts beloved moshes(pbuh) killed those dirty infidels as commanded by Allah.
ryukenb2k 2 years ago