Nose Gear Up Landing

[travisb922]

probably should have left the engines on longer, he barely made it to the runway. that would have made it a bigger emergency by not making the runway.

[philippe747300]

that's a perfect job

if you look closely, after having shuting down the engines, he give some starter impulsions in short final on the engine 1 to try to put the propeler perflectly horizontal.

he really manages to have minimum damages on the bird

[harold562]

@CO738ify You should watch it again with sound, he shut down the engines in order to prevent damage to propellers. It sure is a wise move, but as minimusmax said, if he had to go around for any reason or had a downwind tunnel before reaching the runway, he would be in for a lot worst than just damaged propellers.

[minimusmax]

@CO738ify where does it say he had an engine fire? I probably have more knowledge in the world of aviation then you'll ever have.

[minimusmax]

He really shouldn't have shut down the engines until he was over the runway. If he was going to be short, he'd have no power to go around..... FAIL.

[s030141]

@minimusmax - not a fail, you wouldnt shutdown the engines unless you know you are going to make the runway.

[mkflanagan]

VERY nice job!!

[Greendayfan0921]

VERY VERY NICE JOB. Hats off. I love 310's, theyre so beastly... i also give props (no pun intended) to the fact that after the feather/shutdown on short final, he hits the starters to try to align the props horizontally so they make minimal ground contact...with what was going on, i don't think i would have thought of that...would have just shut them down and touched down regardless of prop positions. I'd like to have a beer with that guy.

[JohnQPerson]

I don't think it's the props he's trying to save, it's the engines. If the props hit the ground while the engine is running you can do serious internal engine damage. He probably could have shut down over runway but I think he did a great job considering he had alot going through his head.

[BlueShepp]

Good thing he didn't need a go around, he would've been screwed big time,

[syeager9]

I wander if it was intentional, but it looks like he was trying to stop the props in the horizontal position. After all it's like $5k a blade, not talking about the govenor.

[SunCityIce]

He did All that to save some down time of his plane so they wouldnt have to tear the engine apart but they hit anyway and had to be torn down anyways. haha. not to mention he landing on the numbers which means he went for the displaced threshold shuitting his engines off. one gust of head wind and this guy wouldnt have made it!!!!

[SunCityIce]

Actuall this might be one of the Dumbest Pilots EVER. He made what is a Simple Problem Much Much Worse by shutting his engines OFF 3/4 of a mile BEFORE he reached the runway!!! Never EVER shut off your engine unless your over the runway. So it went from a simple gear up emergency to a dead stick gear up. Not bright if can be avoided.

[757birdie]

@SunCityIce I agree with you 100%. There was an article on AOPAs flight training magazine and the author said the same thing. Wanting to save the engines he shuts them down and lands on the displaced threshold. A stronger headwind or a slight screw up in glide speed, configuration etc. and he would have easily landed short of the runway altogether. He damaged the engines anyway...Yes a very unwise indeed to shut down 2 good engines.

[lorinczm]

@757birdie @suncityice Hi Guys, I'm personal friends with the (2) guys aboard the plane, both were pilots and both had a hand in the landing. One flying, other feathering and adjusting props to save engines. Of course they were assured of the runway prior to executing. If it was one guy handling everything and not landing at a familiar airport and with uncertain conditions, I'd certainly agree with you two. Gotta love 16R

[xgi36]

Good landing.

[nsteiner23]

great piloting right there! of course this is all practiced but to have the presents of mind to engage the starter on each engine to get the propellers horizontal to prevent prop damage...wow

[Someonex37]

Kudos to the guy for making a smooth landing.. but that guy was kind of an idiot... one, you dont shut down the engines for an emergency, especially for the gears.. 2 he landed too early, not giving him much space.. and 3.. from the way his plane looks (angle of attack for you pilots) he was very close to stalling and turning the whole thing even worse.. if he wanted to save the engines.. he should have killed them much later.. after he had more than enough airspeed to do so

[countachpilot]

Wow!

[M3G4G0TH]

wow - lucky guy

[OldBoatDriver]

Cessna 310 uses Continental engines. This model year likely has IO-470s.

[lorinczm]

@OldBoatDriver That's a c-310 (no letter), first year made, so it's a O-470-B

[nadtrunks]

Perhaps a different procedure then.

Have always been taught and passed check flights by going through the shutdown checks pre-impact.

However, I'm not trained for RGs yet and it may be different for those situations.

Just saying what I know to be true.

[nadtrunks]

Part o forced landings, whether it be runway or a paddock, is to do a shutdown check before touching down.

The pilot did the right thing by shutting the engines down. Had they been on he would have damaged more than just the propellers.

Crankshafts would have been snapped at the very least - not to mention piston damage.

No you aren't suppose to land on a displaced part of the runway but when push comes to shove if it involves safely landing a plane, so be it.

[OldBoatDriver]

He didn't "save" the engines/plane, the props still contacted the runway. The blades that did are likely trashed, so both of those props are coming off for overhaul. The engines also have to be torn down, inspected, and rebuilt (at least) because of the props contacting the runway. He scraped the tail on landing and the nose of course needs repair. It's about as much damage as a standard gear-up landing--except with the added risk of performing a dead-stick landing and almost coming up short.

[ERAUStudent]

I guess a run-out check of the crankshaft flanges and inspection of the thrust bearings would be in order, but the crankshaft gear retaining bolt would be okay because there was no sudden stoppage. That is of course if those are Lycomings.

[OldBoatDriver]

Idiot pilot, in my opinion. His heroism trying to "save" the engines and props almost led him to crash short of the runway. Fly the airplane and let the insurance company take care of the damage!

[ACfixer]

Idiot pilot? He saved the engines/plane and everyone walked away safely. Nicely done.

[TylerKirkFilms]

cracked door and everything... excellent pilot

[SCE2AUX]

Nice 310, great landing