Anti-Flag Vices (New Song)

[Onyx0Mango]

Lmfao, you guys are FUCKING MORONS!! Who GIVES a rat's ass which band "sold out" and which band didn't? Grow the fuck up, idiots. It's about the music. That's all that matters. It's not like their fucking message changed. I agree, you guys probably wouldn't of even heard of these guys if they didn't sign a record deal! They did this to get their fucking message across, and it's working. So shut the fuck up you ignorant pricks.

[2k7Roni]

@Onyx0Mango GOD BLESS YOU!

[BransenTheBrownDog]

i bet they had a lot of fun writing this album inside there giant gas guzzlin tour bus with billy talent riding along good thing they didnt sell out

[Onyx0Mango]

@BransenTheBrownDog Lool. Fuck you.

[johnsonben23]

Rise against and anti flag signed a record deal, i bet most people saying they sold out wouldn't have heard of them without that its not like their message or personalities if you go to their smaller shows theyre still the same people, their sound has changed over time because the times, problems, and world and they have become new people with those changes

[jigijopo]

@llGuitarll Sum 41 hasn't sold out, in fact their latest album was made solely for their fans mostly on Deryck's own dime.

[restricted2blunts]

I love all the people that hate on here because it helps the band get feedback, feedback equals money, so thank you haters for your opinions!

[ditaxdeath]

Why is nobody Iistening to the lyrics, does anybody understand the beauty and seriousness in this song?

[xXxbloodywristsxX]

kinda ironic how people are posting arguements on this video when the song is sorta about not fighting just sayin

[halielove13]

WOOOO! :D

I love this song. o_O

[sbritt1994]

i hate it when people say anti-flag, rise against and green day sold out... IT'S PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT DESTROY THE PUNK SCENE!!!

[llGuitarll]

@sbritt1994 Actually Green Day has sold out. RA and AF not, but GD has. And of course Sum 41

[sbritt1994]

@llGuitarll just wondering but how did green day sell out? The true meaning of "selling out" means you gave up one belief for amount of money. Green day never did that. green day has just changed their style of punk their more pop punk now.

[maraudingchimpanzee]

@sbritt1994 A lot of people think they did that solely to make more money. Which is possible. It's also possible to just become more that way naturally I suppose.

I do like the fact that they maintain their old studio in one of the worse parts of the city they started off in, but 21st Century Breakdown was still pretty awful.

American Idiot was good though.

[AlmostaFlipinSkater]

@sbritt1994

Anti-Flag and Rise Against did NOT sell out.

Green Day DID sell out.

[malleusss555]

@AlmostaFlipinSkater anti-flag and rise against did the same thing bad religion did, imo

[XianisRoxify]

why whenever i read the comments of an anti flag vid is a bunch of idiots bickering over something really stupid like selling out or being hypocritical. morons

[MonkeyZGrass]

@arsonaarin34243424 A band that sells out is not one that talks about something different. A band that sells out is keeps saying the same thing over and over again because they know it will sell.

[goremi]

FREE MUMIA ABU-JAMAL!!

[CourtingConstantine]

"Anti-flag sold out" blah, blah, blah

I didn't realize "punks" shared so much in common with elitist hipsters. I guess it would preferable were Anti-flag to record with a 4-track. Improving their songwriting, production, and gaining greater exposure is apparently a bad thing. Why? Because for some punks the message isn't of greatest importance. Rather, they derive pleasure from being different. Now, I'm all for being counter-cultural, but narcissism and preoccupation with self/image isn't.

[Richiee94]

what a great begining with the PIANO and after the anger and the passion ANTI FLAG for everybody

[bairhsnyva]

their sound didn't even really change except for a few tracks off Bright Lights. Blood and Empire was brilliant and People or the Gun was maybe the best they've ever made....they're the only good punk band left.....keep it up guys!

[PhilosophicIdiot]

All you stupid idiots are crying EVERYTIME a band puts out a new record, all of you fuckin' kiddies keep complaining about everything and everyone, GET A FUCKING LIFE! Great music, if you don't like it, then piss off and listen to other stuff.

[sbritt1994]

jesus people.... this song is epic and your discussing that they "sold out!" shut the fuck up and maybe you can learn something from this band!

[iKiLLEDreaganTWICE]

their getting old of course their sound is gonna change...it didnt change cause they switched companies

[AlmostaFlipinSkater]

People saying that anti-flag did NOT sell out should stop kissing ass.They DID sell out! Look at A New Kind Of Army and then The Bright Lights of America. ankoa was the shit but tbloa fucking blows hard. Hopefully their next independent label album sounds like their old stuff. and yea, The People Or The Gun was better than this and i do know that its on an independent label, but hopefully their next album will reach back down to the old days. tpotg sounds more like their old stuff but not quite

[JAk8836]

I'm not going to suck up at all here, but they haven't. The only way a band could sell out is if they lose the meaning in their message. So they've changed up their sound a bit, who cares? They took the risk of signing to RCA and they didn't like it. Mistakes happen, get over it and get back into the music. They're a lot older than they were in Their System Doesn't Work For You and all that jazz, so they changed their sound. I admit the older AF sound a helluva lot better, but it's still them.

[iKiLLEDreaganTWICE]

what they did was sacrifice a small part of their ideals(signing to RCA) for a short period of time to get their message to more people....i say its worth it

[SconeRabbit]

Why are people complaining about them jumping to Sony? They barely made any money out of it! Otherwise they wouldn't have appealed to their fans to donate to help Justin Sane's nephew... So clearly the albums weren't sold out... Not to mention the fact that they just wanted to get their message out. Now just enjoy the music and stop complaining!

[ZachIsUnknown]

what is this? a fuckin linkin park rip off? anti-flag sold out. listen to pennywises vices. this really, really blows. buy new kind of army not ths

[skatexandxannoy]

wtf i never said its wrong to do what they did, i just said its hypocritical that they preach against something while supporting it.

[MetalHead143]

Anti-Flag never sold out, they signed with a major record label to get their message out to more people, and they're as punk as ever, their sound is just maturing, punk isnt a sound, go look up the lyrics to their new music, it's still anti-government, anti-capitilism, anti-communism, they stand for freedom, no matter how they sound it's all about freedom, thats what "punk" is, is the search for freedom in a so-called "free" country.

[skatexandxannoy]

but see in my opinion you cant say that they're anti capitalist beacause they signed to a capitalist record company. i love anti flag and always will but you cant preach anti consumerism and then make money working with sony owned RCA records.

[MetalHead143]

I'm completely against consumerism, yet I work for a company that is based on consumers, just because they signed with the label doesnt mean they support what that label stands for, sometimes you have to do what you dont want to do to survive, you have to make an income somehow to put a roof over your head and food on the table, thats all these guys are doing

[oogamo]

I wish people who upload music with just a still picture would AT LEAST put the lyrics in the video or discription.

[sabbath580]

Ya. what assholes. uploading music that you can listen to for free. Its a song dude, there really not supposed to have visuals.

[oogamo]

Um I can easily listen to music else where smart ass this is just more convenient (excuse my spelling) ^^ Anyways that's why I said in the description because not everyone can understand what they're saying (me) so it would be nice if they could at least have it there .

[Kartoffelhorror]

Just great!

[SconeRabbit]

Good song. They're putting across a good message.

[jwitz04]

sick song, great cd anti flag rocks..fuck anyone who calls them sellouts..every one of their cds rocks equally

[mrsheba]

people say they sold out... well hell that means they can get their views out much easier

[XanderFlyTheBassist]

people say they sold out cause they signed with a major label, what people dont hear is the only reason they signed is cause they were able to get a contract that says the label has no say in anything they do, they just get to put there name on it and sell it,

[zwetti95]

sum 41 is a bissle ähnlich aber net so gut

[theforktotheleft]

What language r u skpeaking?

[enjoi55enjoi]

kennt einer eine andere ähnliche band ?

[Backfireoftheworld]

ZSK, Die Artze, black flag, and sex pistols

[Kartoffelhorror]

Anti-Flag ist UNVERGLEICHLICH ;]

[21ricky666]

#2 sounds different in this.. not bad

[coffeebandits]

Decent song but sounds like Linkin Park to me. Just very boring imo. Can't wait for the awesome new album.

[LoveTheHigher]

Linkin Park? No.

[dropxdeadxalex]

this is no longer punk. new album hopefully will be better.

[1mindlessmusic1]

calling anti-flag no longer punk is actually funny, they're fucking obviously punk!

[dropxdeadxalex]

compare this to drink drank punk

[21ricky666]

does it matter how it sounds?

its still anti flag, and as long as they stay loyal to their cause i love their music

[xxstraight0edgexx]

I second 21ricky666, plus think about how differeent this song is then the other songs...this one has a lot of meaning to Chris #2, different from the other stuff they have wrote

[21ricky666]

people get annoying because anyone that becomes remotely popular is "selling out" its fuckin annoying!

[xxstraight0edgexx]

every band is a sell out then :D

[21ricky666]

iknow right?

[holysab7]

THEY are still punk, even if there music isn't

[XxhuaJaxX]

this is a very good song!

[5ALARMARCADE]

Whoa! this kinda has a "dance gavin dance" feel to it. thats sick!

[ashiningplanet]

this song is on constant REPEAT

<3

[csu77898]

do a best song asshole

eat my shit.... Anti-Flag rocks

[FuckYourFaith420]

ANTIFLAG DIDNT FUCKING SELL OUT SLIPKNOT DIDE ANTI-FLAG WILL NEVER SELL OUT just bcuz they have their record company? they sold out? wow ppl r stupid

[QueenQH]

I totally agree :)

[anguspie]

Dude, I agree with you on the thing about record company's, but what the fuck? Learn to voice your opinion like someone who isn't retarded, maybe you'll be listened too then, instead of scorned. And who cares anyway? People who won't listen to a band because tehy are "mainstream" are bigger losers than those who just listen to pop. It's about the music, first and foremost.

[radicalaceshasbrin]

@FuckYourFaith420 anti flag sold out

[cobhc732]

@FuckYourFaith420 If you really believe, they did not sell out, then you truly are not an Anti-Flag fan.

[arsonaarin34243424]

@FuckYourFaith420 No! They sold out because they don't have anything left to say. They said absolutely nothing on this album or the people or the gun. And when a band who has spoken out against major corporations their entire career suddenly signs with one, and no longer sings a political message is a band that has sold out.

[slysendice]

@arsonaarin34243424 They even said they only signed to RCA because they agreed to give them control, unlike other major corporations. They wouldn't have done it if they didn't think it was the right decision. Wasn't The People Or The Gun released under an independent label anyway?

[aWhimTested]

@slysendice yep, it was. i don;t like TPOTG too much. it's not bad, it just seems like hald the songs are demo-quality.. i'm not the hugest fan of birhgt lights of america as a whole, but i'm lad they put it out. it's nice to have a black sheep album once in a while that you can turn to if you want something a bit different

[rosarioXvampire]

ohh my god this song SUCKS!! its so bored For Blood and Empire is better

[XxKiraBeckamxX]

if you dont like thesong you dont have to post a comment saying it sucks just keep ur mouth shut :]

[maraudingchimpanzee]

@XxKiraBeckamxX The comment section isn't just for people who like the music. I enjoy the song, but it is fine if others do not and express that opinion.

[maraudingchimpanzee]

I don't like a lot of music. Do I go to those videos to make fun of them? No. I just don't listen to them.

[digg18]

The lyrics do indeed allude to a father figure. But maybe the songs about a little of both, but either way they're both tragic things.

[sr3po0p]

dude ur stupid its about his sister dieing in iraq

[digg18]

I'm stupid when you're the one who can't even spell? 1 I don't think his sister died in Iraq. I'm pretty sure his sister and brother-in-law were mugged and got killed (The benefit for victims of violent crime cd). 2 There are a few lyrical lines refering to a father. It could be about both, but ignorance and arrogance aren't a good combination..douche.

[thealexmannproject]

#2s dad really is a convicted child molester, his sister is dead, and his brother is a drug dealer. in an interview he says that was what to the song was about... all the hard stuff in his life he never told anyone... i think it was the interview on the issue oriented podcast..

[mlaw006]

i am not a drug dealer

[mlaw006]

i just spoke to chris.... he never said ,i was a drug dealer.

[thealexmannproject]

hmmm i remember hearing that someone in his life dealed drugs to get extra money... sorry for thinking it was you

[AquaSka753]

are you chrises brother?

[AquaSka753]

tell him i personally believe antiflag sold out, but hes still one of my heros and im getting a bass.

[1mindlessmusic1]

and how are we supose to believe you're his brother?

[mlaw006]

i don't care if you believe it or not,but if it means that much to you, check out my myspace page. there is a pic of chris and his wife at my daughter's baptism...they are her god parents

[1mindlessmusic1]

sorry, there's just alot of people who say they know bands when they don't. If you accually are his brother that's awesome! Chris is one of my heros, he's a way better bassist than he gets credit for

[1mindlessmusic1]

I saw it myself, there is an interview on youtube where he says his brother was in trouble with the law alot by dealing drugs and such.

[alexisonfirefan7]

just got this cd today great stuff...

[xxemodudejjxx]

it aint a bad song, u shouldn't judge it by the souns but by the words... i'm w/ u jeremymcgrew21 bud

[suicidalsmurf55]

they did not fucking sell out.

ive been an anti-flag fan since day fucking one and know far more about punk rock then you ever fucking will.

so go ahead and tell me im mainstream you fucking poser.

[xwhiteteex]

reguardless of what its about it still is a shitty song

[jeremymcgrew21]

whoops sorry i meant to say the murder of his* sister

[Elivvood]

Justin's sister is murdered =(?

[thatgrlfromnj]

no chris #2's sister and her boyfriend were killed.

[thatgrlfromnj]

that comment was supposed to be to Elivvood

[Elivvood]

That's really sad. Do they know, who the murderer is? Or which his reason was?

[thatgrlfromnj]

no they just said she was killed. thats why they made a benefit for victims of violent crimes

[mlaw006]

yes we know.....his name is Marcus Early. we're still waiting for trial to start.

[jeremymcgrew21]

everybody seriously show some fucking respect!!! this song is about the murder of her sister last year...they are not sell outs...just because they got onto a better label so they can supply the music to us isnt selling out...just because they are more popular isnt selling out!! selling out is putting ur music on movies and taking money out of everyones pockets...they are the most popular punk band around right now and they're concert tickets are like $17 and theyre cds are about the same price

[mlaw006]

listen again. the song is about his father.

[thatgrlfromnj]

ya it rlly is bout his father.

[jeremymcgrew21]

umm just because it has one line about his father doesnt mean its about his father......... Vices- In early 2007 Chris #2's sister and her boyfriend were murdered, but in time, this tragedy eventually became a hugely inspiring event. "Vices" is a direct result of the kindness and support of the people who surround our band: the music community, our friends and our families. We wrote it with the hope that in some small way people will find some solace in its words.

[mlaw006]

umm...there is more than one line about his father. I have not spoken to chris about the song. I see more of his father feelings about his father in this song,than the death of our sister.

[medion911ddd]

are you family of chris of Anti-Flag??

[mlaw006]

yeah,he's my brother

[medion911ddd]

ok!!

so is all of it true what they say!! you know about his sister and stuff cause im a huge fan of A-F but due to distance (i live in a other country) i dont hear much of it!

This might be a rude question but are they still going to LOWLANDS (in the netherlands) cause its the first time ill see them live and i quess it will be the only time!!!

take care!!

[mlaw006]

yes, it is true about our sister. not sure about Lowlands....it's hard to talk to him when he's on tour....they are always busy. just check their web site for updates.

[medion911ddd]

Ok i will check the site!

thanks!

[r0ckin0utIr3land]

quit arguing whether or not they sold out...listen to the message there trying to bring through this song...

[AquaSka753]

it isnt political if thats what you mean.

[kayawtique]

yeah, these new songs arn't as good, but they're still good. i guess i can agree. they've changed lots, but i dont think they're falling into the mainstream or anything, and i dont think they're selling out or anything....

[punkseeker900]

well to me they changed alot. they used to sing how underground they were but wat about now.. their stilla great band but i just dont like it that they changed alot.

[bringittoanend]

ANTI-FLAG DID NOT SELL OUT! They have been approached by many major recored labels over the past 7 or 8 years and they always turned them down. Untill RCA gave them complete freedom. Also because of the change their cd's are manufactured in the countries they are sold. Making it cheaper and easier for fans to buy. They switched to RCA to be heard on a larger scale to get their message out. & they're still singing about important issues...not how shiny their rims are.

[21ricky666]

THANK YOU

:D

[LethalGut]

i got new album on my page

People or the gun!!! <3

[kayawtique]

oooh, sry about what i said. nvm then. i just wana know why you think they're selling out.

[kayawtique]

good song:]

[punkseeker900]

anti-flag is a sell out now. i used to be a fan but now it's fucking stupid. and people who dont agree with me than u guys are retarded. and i bet i'm going to have tons of negative points. o well

[XoXBlackFuryXoX]

Honestly, can you explain to me why you think they're sellouts? Signing to a major label doesn't mean you're a sell out unless you send all your morals to hell after you sign with them which Anti-flag clearly didn't do.

[punkseeker900]

well they sound different thats one they were way better back in the days. their making the same mistake greenday made a few years ago.

[XoXBlackFuryXoX]

They really don't sound that different. I respect your opinionif you don't like the newer style but it really isn't that different and different doesn't necessarily mean bad. But I have to agree that Green day were way better in the 90s. Still Anti-Flag is far from Green Day in terms of being mainstream.

[punkseeker900]

well yea to me they sound different but it's mostley my oppinion i guess. well to many they sound no different. their stilla good band tho

[kayawtique]

how? i dont get how they're now a sell out. they're not a sell out. and if u dont like them anymore, why do u point out shit about them on they're songs. if u dont like they're music; dont listen 2 it.

[punkseeker900]

well first thing it's my choice whether to say wat i want and second it's my oppinion whether i think their sell out and plus i still listen to them but not their new songs. if u need anymore question u should read the stuff i commented back! it tells u why i posted wat i said..

[AquaSka753]

i agree completely digg18

[digg18]

Na punkseeker, your right. If they didn't sell out with the contract they kinda did with their music. The only reason ppl are saying they didn't sell out is bc their popular now. So all the mainstream kids are defending them,

Real fans know Real anit-flag. but I do like this song.

[gnarkill733]

the quote at the end of the song is longer than that and it belongs at the beginning of "the modern rome burning", not here.

[XxExplosiveSushixX]

ya, i know that, when i made the thing, it cut out the ending of it, idk why :/

[gnarkill733]

oh you made it? i thot u just posted the cd's songs. well thanks for doin it, ive been listenin to these songs for like a week now haha thanks again

[AquaSka753]

wow...

sounds exactly like mcr...

[SmashTheStAte199]

old stuff is better. but i still like the new stuff..

[PhilMan138]

this is probably my other favorite song off the album. This whol album has a new feel, but it's cool they're taking their music in a slightly different direction.

[choaticpunkrebel]

This is awesome stop comparing their old stuff and their new stuff its all still great music

[AquaSka753]

agh why is there name still anti-flag???

[apersonplaceorthing]

"Anti-Flag does not mean Anti-American. Anti-Flag means anti-war. Anti-Flag means the common people of the world are better off living in unity and peace. Anti-Flag means to stand against corporate greed that hurts millions while benefitting a handful of extremely rich. Anti-Flag means to fight against mindless nationalism. Anti-Flag means unity."

[apersonplaceorthing]

ok that was supposed to be a reply to aquaska's comment but yeah

[Vasilisk]

old style > new style

but anti-flag still rules!!!

some songs of this album are awesome

[serimeri]

i think this is the worst song from this LP

[scum]

i know people knock them for their politics being too obvious and not very witty but i think that was something that helped them and it seems as if the new songs through lacking that have lost out

[pisserplunker]

this song is too long

[SociallyInept182]

I think you mean this song is too badass

[XxExplosiveSushixX]

hell ya, one of my favs

[88antifa]

i dont think that you can say the old songs are better because the style is an other

[AquaSka753]

eh its not as good ast he old stuff

[88antifa]

okay i dont know all songs because iam from germany and the albums comes out in april

[XxExplosiveSushixX]

album comes out in april here 2, april 1st

[88antifa]

the sound is different than the albums before! but not bad! a little bit melaconish

you know what i mean??

[XxExplosiveSushixX]

yeah, this is one of my favorite songs from the album

[gumpdy]

melaconish? that's not even a word

[PhilMan138]

XD

owned