Everything in Islam is a lie. Islam was not intended to be a complete new religion with its own prophet but instead a continuation of Christianity. See "The Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Koran"
The name Allah is of a hindu moon god/goddess Allah/Allat, thousands of years before Islam was invented. More over the kaaba was originally a Hindu temple/pilgrimage until it was hijacked by muhammad and his mates.
Finally, there is ZERO evidence of muhammads existence during the years he was "alive".
if you dont know the actual gender of the bees, or they are of mixed gender, the verbs still have to have a grammatic gender, because that is simply how Arabic works.
You HAVE TO pick a grammatic gender, and the way you do this is by following the grammatic gender of the noun, which you have already admitted was arbitrarily feminine.
Neither grammatic gender of nouns, nor verbs necessarily follows the natural gender
The verse 16:69 doesnt not have a noun or pronoun for the bee ! we know it taks about the bee from the previous verse !
If we take only 16:69 we see its talking about female gender 2 verbs in female and 2 pronouns in female without mentioning the noun bee or pronoun for the noun
-The nonmuslim claim is that the prophet chose feminine because its feminine only and this is a lie, its masculine and feminine, the quran chose to use feminine
It looks like you are saying the exact same thing as islammiracle's video is saying, not debunking it. I guess if you want to believe the Koran is miraculous, you will interpret it as being miraculous no matter what. And of course, only people who think miracles into it the way you do are actually thinking, everyone else just doesn't think or ponder.
OPEN CHALLENGE TO THE ISLAMIRACLE CHANNEL. IF THE OWNER OF THAT CHANNEL OR WHOEVER POSTS UP THERE HAS THE GUTS TO DEFEND HIS STATEMENTS AND VIDEOS LET HIM STEP FORWARD. HERE IS MY MESSAGE: YOU ARE A LIAR SIR AND YOU KNOW IT, OR YOU ARE IGNORANT AND YOU DON'T KNOW IT.
please pass this message on to them. BY THE WAY NO EX QURAN ARABIC TEACHER CAN DEBUNK THE BEE MIRACLE... TELL HIM TO STEP FORWARD
You shall certainly be tried and tested in your possessions and persons and you shall certainly hear from the people given the book before you and those who associate partners with God much grieving talk. But if you are steadfast and disciplined, then that is of the (required) resolve in affairs. (3:186)
This video is lame, perhaps it should have been made when you were less angry
The video debunks itself, when it says that the word is feminine and therefore it uses feminine verbs. Check this video as an arabic speaker/teacher explains it. watch?v=Tpu4UkT-Rl8 or "Qur'an's Miracle of the Female Honey Bees"
With your logic, 16.79 would read only female birds are held up by allah, 30.2 would say Female romans were defeated, 16.66 would say MALE COWS PRODUCE MILK. Unfortunately your logic is wrong
My friend do you study Arabic? I challenge you to debate your position. You have missed the point, as you do not know what you are talking about. The examples you are giving unfortunately are wrong and you are missing the whole point, and for that matter forget about logic. Go look in suratul Naml and you will know what I'm talking about. I am very short on time these days but I will make some responses soon, and if you or your channel friends want THE DEBATE IS OPEN.
I am beginner for now...so no i dont speak arabic. i was only going by what you said.
"debate your position"
If you want to debate it with respect to the arabic language, you should contact CEMBadmins who made the following video, "Qur'an's Miracle of the Female Honey Bees" (watch?v=Tpu4UkT-Rl8)
If you want to debate without the arabic, i will end this in a few words. Let me ACCEPT your word that the quran says female bees produce honey. now my response is SO WHAT ?
Thinking from the perspective of desert arab, i would believe all animals are created in pairs, and from what i see female cows, camels and goats produce milk. So perhaps female bees produce honey.
Not too difficult was it.
i would like to know why the other examples are wrong and why this is right ? TY
-The word nahl is in 16:68, mentions 1 feminine verb, talks about dwelling places, this can mean in general
-The next verse 16:69 doesnt mention Nahl, this is very wise rhetoric, mentions 2 verbs and pronouns in feminine singular, and its talking only about maming of honey !
-The verses about the romans and cattle are general just like 16:68, theyre not like 16:69, they dont mention the bee and use several verbs and pronouns in feminine singular
@penkallli "The next verse 16:69 doesnt mention Nahl" - yes because the previous verse did. It is the same in english. look at these 2 sentences. "The man is in the car. HE is driving". The second sentence does not mention the man, instead uses a pronoun. I don't get you point.
Once, is the word nahl feminine or masculine ? This is what it all depends on!
What do you mean they are romans and cattle are general ? How is it any different from the use of nahl ?
No it doesnt mention the pronoun for the bee either, we know its a bee from the previous verse, but it begins we verbs, ur analogy, man is in the car, HE is driving is not there for the bee, the subject is hidden !
The verse about romans and cattle arent that specific like 16:69, example: min butuniha - from her belly
@penkallli Ok I meant pronouns or possessives. It doesn't make a difference
Butniha - her/its butn (womb). So let me ask for the third time, is the word nahl feminine or masculine ? This is what it all depends on!
regarding, the cattle in 16:66 it uses the masculine possesive (buṭūnihi) the same way nahl uses Butniha in 16:69? I fail to see your point. Can you please explain what you mean by specific? general ?
Nahl is feminine in hijazi dialect but also is used in masculine, this is the other part of the quote that exmuslim didnt quote in his vid and desciption:
"وقد يجوز فيها التذكير، قياساً على النمل : " ياأيها النمل ادخلوا مساكنكم ..."
-Gives the example for masculine verb used in 27:18 for ants, so his premise that only feminine form is used for nahl in hijaz is not true, he didnt quote the entire quote from the lexicon !
The argument behind his vid is that feminine verbs are used for nahl anyways, so theres no indication of gender at all !
He quotes half sentence from the 1 lexicon at least, where he states Nahl is feminine in hijazil; if he continued he would quote that masculine is used too in the quran about the ants, that invalidates his argument !
@penkallli I dont see the relevance of your arabic quote and i dont even see the word nahl in there but it is saying naml (ants). can you translate it ?
CEMBadmin has many quote from various sources saying something like "Nahl is masculine or feminine. IN HIJAZ, it is feminine"
I dont see what he is hiding.
For the 4th time now, what do you mean they are general, special etc ? Can you clarify your premises first ?
CEMB lies when he says in hijazi its feminine only ! It can be used in masculine, like the ants, its in the same category as Nahl, yet its used in masculine in the quran !
His argument falls down right there !
- Quran chose to use the feminine in that verse thats the point, not that arabs use it in feminine only as he suggests by not quoting the entire sentence !
2) If thats the case u concede the first point, u cant have it both ways
-CEMBadmins lied by not quoting the entire quote, not to mention about the cattle verses, if quran chose to use feminine in the verse, then ur/his assertion that its feminine in hijazi only cant be true, which is not !
@penkallli 1) I am still waiting for your justifications regarding this. CEMBadmins has quoted various tafsirs stating that it is feminine in Hijazi and I am still waiting for you to show how he lied.
2) Why so? The two points aren't contradictory.
So still waiting! Still have no idea how the cattle verse is different or what you mean by general/ specific or any of your other contentions including the relevance of your quote that doesnt even have the word nahl!
1) He lies when he says its only in feminine, if he continued the quote it would say: "its allowed to make it masculine as in the verse 27:18 with Naml", Nahl and Naml are the same category, meaning in hijazi they make them feminine, but the quran which is also hijazi, makes Naml masculine ! So in hijazi Nahl can be in masculine too, when they say its feminine in hijazi they mean what common, but quran is not ur common book ! it broke this rule with Naml
@penkallli ""its allowed to make it masculine as in the verse 27:18 with Naml"
Is this talking about the hijazi dialect or is it talking about Arabic? How do you know ? And which tafsir is this from ? And why do all those tafsirs explicitly state that nahl is feminine in hijazi ?
"when they say its feminine in hijazi they mean what common" - Isn't that enough ?
"but quran is not ur common book" - below mediocre for me ?
"it broke this rule with Naml" - as in a mistake ?
2) If u say the prophet use feminine for nahl because its obvious that female make things from their bellies, then that implies, choice of using words, not bounded by grammar rules ! So u cant have that he was bounded by the rules of arabic, and then say he chose to use feminine !
-Anam-cattle is the same category as Naml and Nahl, anam is used in feminine and masculine in the quran, he didnt quote the verse used in masculine
@penkallli 2) "So u cant have that he was bounded by the rules of arabic, and then say he chose to use feminine !"
Well, it could have been either or both. Maybe it was that he was just going by the grammar or stating the intuitive OR stating the intuitive that corresponds to his arabic dialect !
"Anam-cattle"
The verse in question is 16:66. It uses the word ""butunihi" for cattle. The possesive used here is masculine right ? So how is this different from your logic for nahl ?
-Verses he brought arent analogous with 16:69, since
a) the verses he quoted for romans, cattle, are general as I call it, they use 1 pronoun in female or male, u can say its like 16:68, nahl mentioned and 1 feminine verb
b) 16:69- i cal specific, nahl is not used, or a pronoun for nahl, the verse uses 2 feminine pronouns and 2 feminine verbs, which is unlike the verses about roman, cattle
The quotes go on to say that Nahl can be used in masculine and give the example of the verse 27:18 about the Naml-ants, which is the same category like the Nahl
-By hiding the entire quote he gives false argument
@JibreelK It works for me if I just paste it over the url (the part after the slash) for another video. Full url is youtube.com/watch?v=Tpu4UkT-Rl8 As I understand it, he's saying (and uses examples from other verses) that use of a feminine verb in relation to a collective noun (which is usually treated as feminine) does not imply anything about the sex of the thing in question. If you want to discuss details best ask him as I don't have sufficient expertise
You're right he missed the point about the verb, though another atheist, ex-Quranic Arabic teacher's video seems to debunk that aspect of the miracle claim watch?v=Tpu4UkT-Rl8
yes i hav seen some of their garbish video ...fools like rationalizars in his video ;mohammad geocentric universe ....claims ..states that sun REST using sura 36:37 _38 .. fool can not even read the 4 translation i gave ... and the fool also states that big bang theory was PROVED in edwin hubbie in 1929... the guy never ever bothers to even bother to open wikipedia.... more i see their frustation . more i feel proud of islam
@HummadJ Imam Ghazali is one of the most influential personalities of the Islamic History. He has made very powerful contributions to the Muslim world that are having influence even now. Before you may read about him though I advice you to study about the basics of Islam which is more important. My recommendation is a website
Salam. brother, the thing I found out with these people is that they don't want the truth. They only want their version of the truth. I found that when you do show them signs of Allah swt they openly laugh and say it's not a sign. Arrogance rules their souls so there's no real point in talking to them. They openly mock the Prophet PBUH and God. Let them do things they want. The time will come when every one will know.
Everything in Islam is a lie. Islam was not intended to be a complete new religion with its own prophet but instead a continuation of Christianity. See "The Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Koran"
The name Allah is of a hindu moon god/goddess Allah/Allat, thousands of years before Islam was invented. More over the kaaba was originally a Hindu temple/pilgrimage until it was hijacked by muhammad and his mates.
Finally, there is ZERO evidence of muhammads existence during the years he was "alive".
kanjarify1111 1 month ago
if you dont know the actual gender of the bees, or they are of mixed gender, the verbs still have to have a grammatic gender, because that is simply how Arabic works.
You HAVE TO pick a grammatic gender, and the way you do this is by following the grammatic gender of the noun, which you have already admitted was arbitrarily feminine.
Neither grammatic gender of nouns, nor verbs necessarily follows the natural gender
1RothMan 2 months ago
@1RothMan
The verse 16:69 doesnt not have a noun or pronoun for the bee ! we know it taks about the bee from the previous verse !
If we take only 16:69 we see its talking about female gender 2 verbs in female and 2 pronouns in female without mentioning the noun bee or pronoun for the noun
-The nonmuslim claim is that the prophet chose feminine because its feminine only and this is a lie, its masculine and feminine, the quran chose to use feminine
penkallli 2 months ago
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1RothMan 2 months ago
So you're having an arguement about bee gender. Bee gender. really.
comslave 2 months ago
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penkallli 2 months ago
JazakAllah brother
i think we should join togather in researches like you did.I have refuted his false imaginations in 8 of 50 .he doesn't know Arabic.
But new Muslims can be easily misleaded through his videos.therefore we need to get togather and need to share the knowledge to address such fitnaas.
E-mail me ,if any brother or sister wish.
Note: paste the following link ,starts from word 'Corpus' and ends at =69
(corpus...=69 )
mianbilal786 3 months ago
Those who do not know Arabic Grammar ,may check the link corpus
.quran.
com/wordbyword.jsp?
chapter=16&verse=69 explains all in a very Simple manner.
mianbilal786 3 months ago
It looks like you are saying the exact same thing as islammiracle's video is saying, not debunking it. I guess if you want to believe the Koran is miraculous, you will interpret it as being miraculous no matter what. And of course, only people who think miracles into it the way you do are actually thinking, everyone else just doesn't think or ponder.
CMO999 4 months ago
OPEN CHALLENGE TO THE ISLAMIRACLE CHANNEL. IF THE OWNER OF THAT CHANNEL OR WHOEVER POSTS UP THERE HAS THE GUTS TO DEFEND HIS STATEMENTS AND VIDEOS LET HIM STEP FORWARD. HERE IS MY MESSAGE: YOU ARE A LIAR SIR AND YOU KNOW IT, OR YOU ARE IGNORANT AND YOU DON'T KNOW IT.
please pass this message on to them. BY THE WAY NO EX QURAN ARABIC TEACHER CAN DEBUNK THE BEE MIRACLE... TELL HIM TO STEP FORWARD
JibreelK 4 months ago
You shall certainly be tried and tested in your possessions and persons and you shall certainly hear from the people given the book before you and those who associate partners with God much grieving talk. But if you are steadfast and disciplined, then that is of the (required) resolve in affairs. (3:186)
kotlianz 5 months ago
This video is lame, perhaps it should have been made when you were less angry
The video debunks itself, when it says that the word is feminine and therefore it uses feminine verbs. Check this video as an arabic speaker/teacher explains it. watch?v=Tpu4UkT-Rl8 or "Qur'an's Miracle of the Female Honey Bees"
With your logic, 16.79 would read only female birds are held up by allah, 30.2 would say Female romans were defeated, 16.66 would say MALE COWS PRODUCE MILK. Unfortunately your logic is wrong
captaindisguise 5 months ago 2
@captaindisguise
My friend do you study Arabic? I challenge you to debate your position. You have missed the point, as you do not know what you are talking about. The examples you are giving unfortunately are wrong and you are missing the whole point, and for that matter forget about logic. Go look in suratul Naml and you will know what I'm talking about. I am very short on time these days but I will make some responses soon, and if you or your channel friends want THE DEBATE IS OPEN.
JibreelK 4 months ago
@JibreelK "My friend do you study Arabic? "
I am beginner for now...so no i dont speak arabic. i was only going by what you said.
"debate your position"
If you want to debate it with respect to the arabic language, you should contact CEMBadmins who made the following video, "Qur'an's Miracle of the Female Honey Bees" (watch?v=Tpu4UkT-Rl8)
CONTD
captaindisguise 4 months ago
@JibreelK CONTD 2
If you want to debate without the arabic, i will end this in a few words. Let me ACCEPT your word that the quran says female bees produce honey. now my response is SO WHAT ?
Thinking from the perspective of desert arab, i would believe all animals are created in pairs, and from what i see female cows, camels and goats produce milk. So perhaps female bees produce honey.
Not too difficult was it.
i would like to know why the other examples are wrong and why this is right ? TY
captaindisguise 4 months ago
@captaindisguise
16:68 - mentions Nahl-bee and the verse is feminine, talks about taking places of dwelling
16:69 - doesnt mention nahl-bee, it uses 3 verbs in feminine singular, the verse is ONLY talking about making honey,
-The quran wisely leaves out mentioning the word bee in 16:69 when talking about making honey, and uses 3 verbs in feminine singular one after other
-The analogies given with cows and romans is false, the verse is specific as I stated above
penkallli 2 months ago
@penkallli I dont understand your point about 16:69 not containing (nahl). What bearing does that have on the gender of animals?
Secondly, is the word "nahl" masculine or feminine ?
And how has the analogy with the romans and cows false ? What do you mean it is not specific ?
captaindisguise 2 months ago
@captaindisguise
-The word nahl is in 16:68, mentions 1 feminine verb, talks about dwelling places, this can mean in general
-The next verse 16:69 doesnt mention Nahl, this is very wise rhetoric, mentions 2 verbs and pronouns in feminine singular, and its talking only about maming of honey !
-The verses about the romans and cattle are general just like 16:68, theyre not like 16:69, they dont mention the bee and use several verbs and pronouns in feminine singular
penkallli 2 months ago
@penkallli
The verse 16:69 I meant not they, its not analogous to 16:69 at all
penkallli 2 months ago
@penkallli "The next verse 16:69 doesnt mention Nahl" - yes because the previous verse did. It is the same in english. look at these 2 sentences. "The man is in the car. HE is driving". The second sentence does not mention the man, instead uses a pronoun. I don't get you point.
Once, is the word nahl feminine or masculine ? This is what it all depends on!
What do you mean they are romans and cattle are general ? How is it any different from the use of nahl ?
captaindisguise 2 months ago
@captaindisguise
No it doesnt mention the pronoun for the bee either, we know its a bee from the previous verse, but it begins we verbs, ur analogy, man is in the car, HE is driving is not there for the bee, the subject is hidden !
The verse about romans and cattle arent that specific like 16:69, example: min butuniha - from her belly
U can say batn anahlah but its not used
penkallli 2 months ago
@penkallli Ok I meant pronouns or possessives. It doesn't make a difference
Butniha - her/its butn (womb). So let me ask for the third time, is the word nahl feminine or masculine ? This is what it all depends on!
regarding, the cattle in 16:66 it uses the masculine possesive (buṭūnihi) the same way nahl uses Butniha in 16:69? I fail to see your point. Can you please explain what you mean by specific? general ?
captaindisguise 2 months ago
@captaindisguise
Nahl is feminine in hijazi dialect but also is used in masculine, this is the other part of the quote that exmuslim didnt quote in his vid and desciption:
"وقد يجوز فيها التذكير، قياساً على النمل : " ياأيها النمل ادخلوا مساكنكم ..."
-Gives the example for masculine verb used in 27:18 for ants, so his premise that only feminine form is used for nahl in hijaz is not true, he didnt quote the entire quote from the lexicon !
penkallli 2 months ago
@captaindisguise
The argument behind his vid is that feminine verbs are used for nahl anyways, so theres no indication of gender at all !
He quotes half sentence from the 1 lexicon at least, where he states Nahl is feminine in hijazil; if he continued he would quote that masculine is used too in the quran about the ants, that invalidates his argument !
penkallli 2 months ago
@captaindisguise
He also doesnt saythe truth about Anam-cattle, it can be male or female,
66:16- masculine pronoun is used "butunihi"
23:21- feminine pronoun is used "butuniha"
=ExMuslim arabic teacher quotes half of the song or shows us half of the picture, half quotes
penkallli 2 months ago
@penkallli I dont see the relevance of your arabic quote and i dont even see the word nahl in there but it is saying naml (ants). can you translate it ?
CEMBadmin has many quote from various sources saying something like "Nahl is masculine or feminine. IN HIJAZ, it is feminine"
I dont see what he is hiding.
For the 4th time now, what do you mean they are general, special etc ? Can you clarify your premises first ?
captaindisguise 2 months ago
@captaindisguise
CEMB lies when he says in hijazi its feminine only ! It can be used in masculine, like the ants, its in the same category as Nahl, yet its used in masculine in the quran !
His argument falls down right there !
- Quran chose to use the feminine in that verse thats the point, not that arabs use it in feminine only as he suggests by not quoting the entire sentence !
penkallli 2 months ago
@penkalli "its in the same category as Nahl"
So your quote doesn't actually say that Nahl is not feminine in Hijazi, does it?
Where does quran use nahl as masculine ?
Note: the point is mute regardless. I just have an eye for details hence I am pressing on this
"Quran chose to use the feminine"
1) If "nahl" is feminine in Muhammad's lingo, then DUH!
2) Even without the language, this is the obvious intuition since it is the female cows, camels and women etc that produce milk
captaindisguise 2 months ago
@captaindisguise
1) its not only feminine
2) If thats the case u concede the first point, u cant have it both ways
-CEMBadmins lied by not quoting the entire quote, not to mention about the cattle verses, if quran chose to use feminine in the verse, then ur/his assertion that its feminine in hijazi only cant be true, which is not !
penkallli 2 months ago
@penkallli 1) I am still waiting for your justifications regarding this. CEMBadmins has quoted various tafsirs stating that it is feminine in Hijazi and I am still waiting for you to show how he lied.
2) Why so? The two points aren't contradictory.
So still waiting! Still have no idea how the cattle verse is different or what you mean by general/ specific or any of your other contentions including the relevance of your quote that doesnt even have the word nahl!
captaindisguise 2 months ago
@captaindisguise
1) He lies when he says its only in feminine, if he continued the quote it would say: "its allowed to make it masculine as in the verse 27:18 with Naml", Nahl and Naml are the same category, meaning in hijazi they make them feminine, but the quran which is also hijazi, makes Naml masculine ! So in hijazi Nahl can be in masculine too, when they say its feminine in hijazi they mean what common, but quran is not ur common book ! it broke this rule with Naml
penkallli 2 months ago
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@penkallli ""its allowed to make it masculine as in the verse 27:18 with Naml"
Is this talking about the hijazi dialect or is it talking about Arabic? How do you know ? And which tafsir is this from ? And why do all those tafsirs explicitly state that nahl is feminine in hijazi ?
"when they say its feminine in hijazi they mean what common" - Isn't that enough ?
"but quran is not ur common book" - below mediocre for me ?
"it broke this rule with Naml" - as in a mistake ?
captaindisguise 2 months ago
@captaindisguise
2) If u say the prophet use feminine for nahl because its obvious that female make things from their bellies, then that implies, choice of using words, not bounded by grammar rules ! So u cant have that he was bounded by the rules of arabic, and then say he chose to use feminine !
-Anam-cattle is the same category as Naml and Nahl, anam is used in feminine and masculine in the quran, he didnt quote the verse used in masculine
penkallli 2 months ago
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@penkallli 2) "So u cant have that he was bounded by the rules of arabic, and then say he chose to use feminine !"
Well, it could have been either or both. Maybe it was that he was just going by the grammar or stating the intuitive OR stating the intuitive that corresponds to his arabic dialect !
"Anam-cattle"
The verse in question is 16:66. It uses the word ""butunihi" for cattle. The possesive used here is masculine right ? So how is this different from your logic for nahl ?
captaindisguise 2 months ago
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penkallli 2 months ago
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@captaindisguise
-Verses he brought arent analogous with 16:69, since
a) the verses he quoted for romans, cattle, are general as I call it, they use 1 pronoun in female or male, u can say its like 16:68, nahl mentioned and 1 feminine verb
b) 16:69- i cal specific, nahl is not used, or a pronoun for nahl, the verse uses 2 feminine pronouns and 2 feminine verbs, which is unlike the verses about roman, cattle
penkallli 2 months ago
@captaindisguise
The quotes go on to say that Nahl can be used in masculine and give the example of the verse 27:18 about the Naml-ants, which is the same category like the Nahl
-By hiding the entire quote he gives false argument
penkallli 2 months ago
@sonia26625 If you put "theislammiracle channel" (without quote marks) into the youtube search box it's the 5th result down :)
newjourney7 6 months ago
@newjourney7 ok thks ;)
sonia26625 5 months ago
OoOoOo actually this channel is about to deceive us bout islam ???
sonia26625 6 months ago
@sonia26625 Dont bother going on that kafirs channel its just a waste of time...
kotlianz 6 months ago
@kotlianz lol yes u right so many videos r tryin to refute the embryology in the Qur an, so pathetic !! ah haters !!
sonia26625 6 months ago
@sonia26625 They cant handle the truth...
kotlianz 6 months ago
@kotlianz EXACTLY !!!!!!!!
sonia26625 5 months ago
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kotlianz 5 months ago
@JibreelK It works for me if I just paste it over the url (the part after the slash) for another video. Full url is youtube.com/watch?v=Tpu4UkT-Rl8 As I understand it, he's saying (and uses examples from other verses) that use of a feminine verb in relation to a collective noun (which is usually treated as feminine) does not imply anything about the sex of the thing in question. If you want to discuss details best ask him as I don't have sufficient expertise
newjourney7 6 months ago
You're right he missed the point about the verb, though another atheist, ex-Quranic Arabic teacher's video seems to debunk that aspect of the miracle claim watch?v=Tpu4UkT-Rl8
newjourney7 6 months ago
@newjourney7
Sorry can you put a proper link as I can't go to it... we'll see after
JibreelK 6 months ago
@JibreelK how can i see their channel, just to laugh
sonia26625 6 months ago
they are rookies, schmucks, and desperate liars.
muslim9x9x 7 months ago
Jazzakallah khair for this video bro...Subhanllah great refutation.
kotlianz 7 months ago
AssalamuAlaykum warahmatullahi wabarakatu
Great refutation brother, hope to see more!
May Allah keep us all on the straight path
Ameen
BaitusSalaam 7 months ago
excellent job
imadhurata 7 months ago
yes i hav seen some of their garbish video ...fools like rationalizars in his video ;mohammad geocentric universe ....claims ..states that sun REST using sura 36:37 _38 .. fool can not even read the 4 translation i gave ... and the fool also states that big bang theory was PROVED in edwin hubbie in 1929... the guy never ever bothers to even bother to open wikipedia.... more i see their frustation . more i feel proud of islam
sicker57 7 months ago
@01242692723 why what is the matter, how come you did not realise that?
MatrixOfDynamism 7 months ago
Subhan'Allah great refutation
FATAL12SKILLZ 7 months ago
@01242692723 as far as I know Imam Ghazali has dealt quite directly with this whole problem of Greek Philosophy.
MatrixOfDynamism 7 months ago 5
@MatrixOfDynamism who is imam ghazali?
HummadJ 1 month ago
@HummadJ Imam Ghazali is one of the most influential personalities of the Islamic History. He has made very powerful contributions to the Muslim world that are having influence even now. Before you may read about him though I advice you to study about the basics of Islam which is more important. My recommendation is a website
thedeenshow . com
MatrixOfDynamism 1 month ago
@MatrixOfDynamism seeing as i am muslim i know most of the basics of islam. this is the stuff that im trying to answer, "what proves islam is right"
HummadJ 1 month ago
Keep up the good work Brother! :)
razaa09 7 months ago
Salam. brother, the thing I found out with these people is that they don't want the truth. They only want their version of the truth. I found that when you do show them signs of Allah swt they openly laugh and say it's not a sign. Arrogance rules their souls so there's no real point in talking to them. They openly mock the Prophet PBUH and God. Let them do things they want. The time will come when every one will know.
edlgotbanged 7 months ago