The same creative team that produced and animated this video at Epoch Ink Animation is producing a new animated feature—"War of the Worlds: Goliath", a steampunk SF battle epic.
Check out the Trailer or the Website at Heavy Metal magazine or Google the movie.
Still no reason to act like a 13yo girl. That's not even excusable for 13yo girls. Also you should know everything that happens on the internet is srs business.
We already did. Our jackassery has taken up the whole first page of comments. I've been effing around here for a while and this is a first for me. Thanks! Let's do it again some time.
WELL if you think about it a minute the evolution of the world always bent in violence war and slavery try finding an epoque where everyone was peaceful and there wasnt any killing...
This song and video was inspired by the book Ishmael by Dan Quinn- if you haven't read it then read it now. If you've already read Ishmael then read Endgame by Derrick Jensen... if you've already read both of these books you know what must be done - dismantle civilization!
The "evolution" Eddie sings about here is our cultures myth: We (the culture you're a part of) believe we know the best way to live on Earth and we must force all others to do the same. Even if it kills all life.
So, does the girl represent death? Or does she represent the dark side of evolution, how the species continues to evolve, but yet people continue to act and behave violently and terribly, and basically be vicious and violent? Or maybe she represents both?
such a good commentary. Evolution spells the end of the B.S. Positive humanism movement. We're evil, opportunist creatures and should come to terms with it
evolution is life....life is evolution...we and everything we know is constantly evolving....species, technology, logic, reason...were all just riding along...yeehaaww
I always thought he was saying "Admire me, admire my home, admire my son and admire my account". But now that I look through the net it doesn't say that anywhere ^_^ Well, it still would've made more sense than "here's my coat". That can't be it. Especially since money is as much a root of corruption and chaos as religion and technology. In fact, they're all practically the same thing anymore...
the reason he says "Here's my coat" is because that's one of the many vectors (as well as blankets) we used to kill off the Native Americans so we could exploit this land until the point its at now- non-supportive of life. Read Endgame by Derrick Jensen...
Actually Eddie is very open about the meaning and purpose of this song... If you ever listened to him talk in interviews he has a great interest in tribal cultures and "primitive" humans. This song is a tool used to raise awareness of our current problems (of civilization) and Pearl Jam wanted to say something with Yield: Let us please slow down and look ahead, we're driving fast towards something destructive. Read Ishmael by Dan Quinn.
It's how though man has evolved and become more intelligent, we are still animals, and we are slowly turning into an enigma which will eventually destroy itself, where life will start the process over again.
If not then life earth is doomed as well as life in this galaxy. I doubt WE are the definite cause of our own demise but I do think life will eventually die out on Earth. I don't know I'm just ranting to random people.
Of course we are our own definite cause of our own demise. What is the single greatest hunter of humans? other humans. Some would argue viruses but far more humans have killed humans than viruses.
Everyday we are killing our kind, with bombs guns knives, all with inventions created by man to kill. If an asteriod or the sun doesn't kill us, humans will.
yet, despite being our own greatest hunters, we continue to multiply at a rate exceeding our own rate of self annihilation... If we are the source of our own extinction, it won't be war that kills us but starvation due to overpopulation.
whoever thinks the songs badmouthing religion, shut up fuck up the song is clearly about how man evolves, its simple, the smarter and more technologically advanced man becomes the more likely hes going to destroy the world through greed and hate. although religion is mentioned there more to it.
My guess after reading the lyrics is that it's not just about religion, but also that we are complete hypocrites. And yeah, we have to change. But why fight over religion? They basically fall under one concept. There is a superior being, and there is a heaven or something.
yes admire my son hes my clone. either way its still a knock on religion and specifically christianity. and if we dont change shit up we will destroy the whole planet.
if you listen to the chorus he says admire me admire my home admire my SON admire my THRONE the song is basically a great big fuck you to religion and saying that if we dont stop letting religion start wars we will destroy the entire planet
I always wondered the meaning of this song, but thinking more into it I've come to my own conclusion: Doing the evolution means "quit being such barbaric shits, it's time to get with evolution"
1: the guy at about 3:16 has tubes going into his pants, so yeah, hes gettin off.
2: just before the bomb engulfs the screen at 3:36, we can see a man killing himself pictured earlier, symbolizing the general suicide of the human race
Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport, or lust, or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him, for he is the harbinger of death.
Darwins theories aren't just theories, they are true for all animals, but for us we have set ourselfs out of the "wild" world by advancing in intelligents. So, in a sense, Darwins theory would NO LONGER apply to humans.
Sadly, we seem to be removing ourselves from the theory, rather than simply no longer applying. Rather than letting the weak and sickly humans die, we're doing everything we can to save them. Underweight babies, babies with genetic defects, malformed organs/physical formation. In nature these weak creatures would die of their own accord. We're allowing these weak genes to survive.
Humanity has truely lost it's humanity. It's sad, isn't it?
We'd be showing more compassion to babies by letting those who will suffer their whole lives die with dignity, before they truely have a chance to suffer.
You're the monster if you think allowing a Cerebral Palsy child to live his life is humane. Imagine not being able to feed yourself, or clothe yourself, or wipe your own ass, or masturbate? That's what its like for them everyday. That's worser than hell.
If I was crippled at birth, I'd want to die. If I was crippled now in a car accident, same thing. What point is there in living if you can't live life?
Millions of people are crippled and don't want to die, I was in a car accident in '06. I shattered both my heels, fractured my kneecap, and tore my acl. I'm nowhere near severely crippled but I do live with a lot of pain. And the las thing I want is to die. I do agree that Genetic mdification is worse than Euthenasia, even though my name is a play on words "euthinization"... Get it? Because Genetic modification is pure vanity/egotistical, While euthenasia has can have misguided compassion.
It would literally take millions upon millions of years to "weed out" all the bad genes through euthinasia. Since every human carries these mutations, though they are rarely expressed, it's an extremely ineffective means of forced evolution and/or sympathetic execution.
Over the long amount of time nessecary for these bad genes to be, again, "weeded out" of a population, many other genetic mutations would arise and in effect make euthinasia pointless in this regard.
I don't let my very mild physical disabilities get in the way of me living my life. Right after my accident, when both my legs were in casts up to th knee, I thought my injuries to be much more severe than they were. I made friends with a few crippled people, one I'm still very close to today. He snapped his spine in a motocross accident when he was 16, he's paralyzed from mid chest down. I've never met anyone with as much of a love for life as him.
You seem to believe we should put down everyone who has a slight disability. If that were the case I'd be dead too due to respiratory problems. Your friend, by the sounds of it, still has the ability to use his arms. He's still capable of doing things for himself. What if he were crippled from the neck down? Do you think he's appreciate life just as much? Appreciate not being able to feel anything?
No, I was trying to conceptualize your argument. We can't project how we think we would feel if paralyzed/disabled onto those who are, to do that and then make decisions from those assumtions is to rob them of the right to decide. And that my be the only freedom they have left.
91 people christian
jaze592 5 months ago
buat tiaz nasution di sana....do the evolution dawg.....!!!!!
indra2561 7 months ago
everything aside, that girl is fucking hot and evil.
questrock666 7 months ago
the animation is fantastic
venichen1 2 years ago
The female death looks a lot like she could have been in Batman TAS or Beyond
ilpalozzo 2 years ago
Yeah, I get major "Harley Quinn" vibes every time she appears.
atomofish 2 years ago
I love 1:06 - 1:14
bloodysunday27 2 years ago
It's a pain in the ass to storyboard though!
feckadoodlethe2nd 2 years ago
Awesome! Great Video.
myblackabyss 2 years ago
best video ever
PsychoBisket 2 years ago
No todd mcfarlene did, the guy that created spawn
FishEggeez 2 years ago 3
Did they make this video?
VioletMoonFire 2 years ago
The video looks to have been made by the guy who drew the Batman cartoons in the 90's
Brinksofsims 2 years ago
Fudido... muito bom
invesp 2 years ago
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1:07-1:15
Sounds a little like Beat It...
hotelmario510 2 years ago
dude that new war of the wordlds movie looks awsome
mrmasterdocterchef 2 years ago 2
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SuperRaverz 2 years ago
disturbing and awesome
feignignorence 2 years ago 13
-3:06-3:09: that's 4chan in real life XD
DUKENUKEM132 2 years ago
Not enough fapping.
countrybluegrass 2 years ago 3
Yes, a cartoon is most definitely real life.
sigmalives 2 years ago
that's right
DUKENUKEM132 2 years ago
Is this the same video that the WTF boom! videos came from?
SweetHomeTexas1972 2 years ago
Well spotted. That was how I came across this video, through WTF BOOM.
hotelmario510 2 years ago
=:-)
Do the Evolution !!
=:-P
4darlanzinho4 2 years ago 5
The same creative team that produced and animated this video at Epoch Ink Animation is producing a new animated feature—"War of the Worlds: Goliath", a steampunk SF battle epic.
Check out the Trailer or the Website at Heavy Metal magazine or Google the movie.
Thanx.
Jubb3500 2 years ago 3
fucking crazy.
EmperorKlytus 2 years ago 3
The song is great but the video is absolutely amazing.
Cabileiro 2 years ago 4
the death dance in joy while humanity kills each other, i just love the irremediable apocalyptic truth of the thematic in this song.
julesickdrums 2 years ago 3
I keep expecting Tetsuo to turn up at the end there =D
curst99 2 years ago
this song and video are epic, EPIC, wins
shallowbay91 2 years ago
-.- good job taking over the first page of comments.
Anyways good vid Pearl jam is awesome
minin7 2 years ago
ur all faggots
VALVeisG0D 2 years ago
the animation kinda reminds me of the old, serious batman cartoons, i really liked this, great vid
irelandrocks2 2 years ago
if you knew how to use google you would know why
damwmnm 2 years ago
do i detect an insult over nothing?
irelandrocks2 2 years ago
Thats how the internet works jackass
damwmnm 2 years ago
what ever
irelandrocks2 2 years ago
@irelandrocks2
sorry you had to learn that from me. usually people i interact with already know the rules.
damwmnm 2 years ago
oh i learned it a long time ago, dont see why it applys here though
irelandrocks2 2 years ago
@irelandrocks2
Because youtube is on the internet jackass
damwmnm 2 years ago
sigh, whatever
irelandrocks2 2 years ago
@irelandrocks2
whatever? are you a 13yo girl? nice.
damwmnm 2 years ago
well to be fair its not like we're having a major debate over something even remotly important here is it? >_>
irelandrocks2 2 years ago
@irelandrocks2
Still no reason to act like a 13yo girl. That's not even excusable for 13yo girls. Also you should know everything that happens on the internet is srs business.
damwmnm 2 years ago
okay then, MEH! hows that?
irelandrocks2 2 years ago
@irelandrocks2
Only marginally better.
damwmnm 2 years ago
oh well, you'll just hsve to make the most of it then
irelandrocks2 2 years ago
@irelandrocks2
We already did. Our jackassery has taken up the whole first page of comments. I've been effing around here for a while and this is a first for me. Thanks! Let's do it again some time.
damwmnm 2 years ago
lol, good point, go us (^^)
irelandrocks2 2 years ago
Pearl Jam greatest. Thanks.
MrQuantumLeapSr 2 years ago
devastante..
ghostzoso 2 years ago
Very dark...
humanbatteries911 2 years ago 3
WELL if you think about it a minute the evolution of the world always bent in violence war and slavery try finding an epoque where everyone was peaceful and there wasnt any killing...
damien345 2 years ago
This song and video was inspired by the book Ishmael by Dan Quinn- if you haven't read it then read it now. If you've already read Ishmael then read Endgame by Derrick Jensen... if you've already read both of these books you know what must be done - dismantle civilization!
The "evolution" Eddie sings about here is our cultures myth: We (the culture you're a part of) believe we know the best way to live on Earth and we must force all others to do the same. Even if it kills all life.
tantrangle 2 years ago
"I'm at peace, with my lust....I can kill 'cause in God I trust."
manny4life 2 years ago 4
the best music.
zaitsev1972 2 years ago
2:53 ITS THE WTF BOOOOM GUY!!!!
LARUCUS 2 years ago
maybe we can evolve not to have snarky assholes like the ones filling this page. DO THE EVOLUTION!!!!!
saxophonehero 2 years ago
I love this video!
JUICE720 2 years ago
Hallelujah
Joanna0018 2 years ago
Ok Who's putting thumbs down on everybody ??
I bet it's a religious guy :)
melies138 2 years ago 4
Your´re right!
Joanna0018 2 years ago
depressing but WOW!!
marooma 2 years ago
Im a thief im a liar im my chirch i sing in the choir, Hallelujah Hallelujah! Its my ring tone on my friends phones!
Commisarvlanse 2 years ago
isnt that death girl from another anime or sumthin? i remember seeing her before.
skittlesaretasty 2 years ago
Batman beyond intro scene i think.
Shonem 2 years ago
incredible song, incredible video. Makes me think alot about Pink floyd's The Wall.
melies138 2 years ago 2
Is it true that the cartoon is made from Todd McFarlane's films?
Mike4evermetal2 2 years ago
Todd McFarlane did the animation, but it was all original and choreographed for this song.
FGSRFunLol 2 years ago
OK thx, now I can rest in peace XD
Mike4evermetal2 2 years ago
it`s a great an amazing song*****
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH****
marlenpatino 2 years ago
So, does the girl represent death? Or does she represent the dark side of evolution, how the species continues to evolve, but yet people continue to act and behave violently and terribly, and basically be vicious and violent? Or maybe she represents both?
Its a great video, I really like it!
samoth175 2 years ago
it's inspired by the book ishmael by daniel quinn
qu1en 2 years ago
Hi josh :D
Sasukeloverxxx 2 years ago
Am I the only one who said "Good riddance" at the end of the video?
Kingofcrows 2 years ago 4
Probably not!
DoctorKazefa 2 years ago
lol nope.
JayDaddie 2 years ago
Noooice fuckin song. lol@SlairMongrel. I was thinking the same thing when it started rollin' along.
wraith342460 2 years ago
Wow. According to the stats: Italy loves this song.
indridcold1311 2 years ago
Italy? This lyrics is much more about USA...
"I can kill 'cause 'In God I Trust' "
"This land is mine, this land is free, I'll do what I want, but irresponsibly"
But of course, it is a criticism on the modern way of life in general, not about one country or another.
paulohco 2 years ago
that comment was way too smart for the youtube audience
00cheesy 2 years ago 2
yah,almost all people would say this song points more towards the good ol u.s of a. but honestly this is sadly how most humans are in general.
fhl7777 2 years ago 2
"I'm a thief I'm a lier there's my church I sing in the choir."
Trav12245 2 years ago
Cant wait to see our species whiped out....hope its coming soon.
quantumdude 2 years ago
You wont be there to see it dumbass.
PsuedoNam 2 years ago
Fuck you cunt...you dont know that.
quantumdude 2 years ago
Are you retarded? A full extinction of the human race includes EVERYONE, even you.
PsuedoNam 2 years ago
And what makes you think I wont be here to FUCKING WITNESS IT you miserable idiot ??
quantumdude 2 years ago
i'm a thief, i'm a liar, theres my chuch i sing in the choir!
viketaker 2 years ago
Wow. An entire issue of Heavy Metal packed into four minutes. Killer.
SlairMongrel 2 years ago 7
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You say akon-I say AC/DC
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You say Jonas Brothers-I say SlipKnot
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You say rap-I say rock
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92% of kids have turned to rap,pop,& hip hop.If your one of the 8% who like to headbang and disturb the peace copy and paste to 4 videos
Engel123321 2 years ago
hard video ...but real
tobalerisimo 2 years ago 2
The best part 2:15
TehArabicBomb 2 years ago 2
such a good commentary. Evolution spells the end of the B.S. Positive humanism movement. We're evil, opportunist creatures and should come to terms with it
Water3grave55 2 years ago
This video makes me think about the current situation in the world with all the diseases and everything were are destroying ourselves.
I live in Mexico and it´s a nightmare right now!!!!
Hellowound 2 years ago 3
ITS EVOLUTION BABY!
God, I just want to scream that to people on some stupid news channel.
Ebaumzworld 2 years ago 7
evolution is life....life is evolution...we and everything we know is constantly evolving....species, technology, logic, reason...were all just riding along...yeehaaww
ggg2323 2 years ago
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hitohane 2 years ago
Pretty much the matrix at 3:00.
brokenstix14 2 years ago
I always thought he was saying "Admire me, admire my home, admire my son and admire my account". But now that I look through the net it doesn't say that anywhere ^_^ Well, it still would've made more sense than "here's my coat". That can't be it. Especially since money is as much a root of corruption and chaos as religion and technology. In fact, they're all practically the same thing anymore...
antimere 2 years ago
the reason he says "Here's my coat" is because that's one of the many vectors (as well as blankets) we used to kill off the Native Americans so we could exploit this land until the point its at now- non-supportive of life. Read Endgame by Derrick Jensen...
tantrangle 2 years ago
...where in the hell did you get "here's my coat" from?
wraith342460 2 years ago
He doesn't say "here's my coat," fucktard. He says "he's my clone." He's alluding to the passing down of genetic fallacies throughout the generations.
Dumbspeak: Fathers try to make their sons into little copies of themselves.
Also: Those were smallpox contaminated blankets, not goddamned coats.
Learn2 4th grade History, dickbag.
wraith342460 2 years ago
best clip EVER
denelbh 2 years ago
This is easily the greatest music video of all time.
klymen 2 years ago 3
beatiful gifs 1:07/1:15 ^^
vangrenhas 2 years ago
Song is great; I feel dirty just watching it.
ruhoho 2 years ago
There is no one meaning for this song. you define the art the art doesnt define you.
lespaultommy 2 years ago
Actually Eddie is very open about the meaning and purpose of this song... If you ever listened to him talk in interviews he has a great interest in tribal cultures and "primitive" humans. This song is a tool used to raise awareness of our current problems (of civilization) and Pearl Jam wanted to say something with Yield: Let us please slow down and look ahead, we're driving fast towards something destructive. Read Ishmael by Dan Quinn.
tantrangle 2 years ago
poopie its not about that.
It's how though man has evolved and become more intelligent, we are still animals, and we are slowly turning into an enigma which will eventually destroy itself, where life will start the process over again.
ehodaef 2 years ago 3
Dead on!
elperverto7 2 years ago
If not then life earth is doomed as well as life in this galaxy. I doubt WE are the definite cause of our own demise but I do think life will eventually die out on Earth. I don't know I'm just ranting to random people.
qwertyqeys 2 years ago
Of course we are our own definite cause of our own demise. What is the single greatest hunter of humans? other humans. Some would argue viruses but far more humans have killed humans than viruses.
Everyday we are killing our kind, with bombs guns knives, all with inventions created by man to kill. If an asteriod or the sun doesn't kill us, humans will.
ehodaef 2 years ago
yet, despite being our own greatest hunters, we continue to multiply at a rate exceeding our own rate of self annihilation... If we are the source of our own extinction, it won't be war that kills us but starvation due to overpopulation.
luccaskunk 2 years ago 2
You're discounting nuclear annihilation from the equation
SelfDestructiveEnt 2 years ago
whoever thinks the songs badmouthing religion, shut up fuck up the song is clearly about how man evolves, its simple, the smarter and more technologically advanced man becomes the more likely hes going to destroy the world through greed and hate. although religion is mentioned there more to it.
poopiedick875 2 years ago
I saw this video on MTV when I was still a kid back in the days..
scared the shit out of me
Dralmikins 2 years ago
girl is mysterious... she hypnotizes me
jolmanska 2 years ago 3
this video is badass.
rohaynes1 2 years ago
My guess after reading the lyrics is that it's not just about religion, but also that we are complete hypocrites. And yeah, we have to change. But why fight over religion? They basically fall under one concept. There is a superior being, and there is a heaven or something.
gvs95 2 years ago
Beautiful video
FluffyMuffinMan 2 years ago
but...is a new song's PJ? it's so actually
:-D
mauriziolesto 2 years ago 2
This was dawn by the same guy(s) what did Batman TAS, right? That show was the shit.
bigred2989 2 years ago
Nope, drawn by the same guys who did Spawn, even better.
SidNightWalker 2 years ago
It's not knocking on everything, it's simply telling about how no matter how much people say we change we aren't changing.
ultranimejunkie 2 years ago
It's actually a commentary on how we CAN change.
SidNightWalker 2 years ago
yes admire my son hes my clone. either way its still a knock on religion and specifically christianity. and if we dont change shit up we will destroy the whole planet.
chrismims22 2 years ago
WTF BOOM!
Clackhed 2 years ago 2
Ci sono proprio tutti gli orrori della storia dell' umanita' ! Un grande video ! Bellissimo ! GREAT !
loresamba 2 years ago
if you listen to the chorus he says admire me admire my home admire my SON admire my THRONE the song is basically a great big fuck you to religion and saying that if we dont stop letting religion start wars we will destroy the entire planet
chrismims22 2 years ago
he never said thrones , "admire my son , admire my clones"
calamityg 2 years ago
It's "Admire my Son, here's my coat."
ultranimejunkie 2 years ago
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CommanderLorenz 2 years ago
Admire my son, he's my clone.
nsrgnc 2 years ago 4
Admire my son, he's my clone.
aimlogacc 2 years ago
I always wondered the meaning of this song, but thinking more into it I've come to my own conclusion: Doing the evolution means "quit being such barbaric shits, it's time to get with evolution"
ElZomboFantasma 2 years ago
at first you think the video moves too fast but than it fucks you in the ass
smittykon 2 years ago 2
this version has a great quality
Yaman3ko 2 years ago
Great video.
PowerSlaveN 2 years ago
You can see the Statue of liberty in the explosion at the end. Jeez, this is heavy
The0d0r1c 2 years ago 5
o-o
emmBerexD 2 years ago
3:30 Yield
rocoloco95 2 years ago
whoa lol so much going on i didnt even get to enjoy the animation
Rabbitmachine 2 years ago
this song reminds me of how fucked up we are
emos1suck1 2 years ago 10
amen to that
Nades129 2 years ago 2
Um... that's the point
trueshinchan 2 years ago 2
I love those two completely different sounding guitar sounds....
Chiboy00 2 years ago 2
The line about the ignorant indians was probably coming from the mouth of an explorer... or so that's what I think...
PedrosProductions 2 years ago
Go satire!!
senortank 2 years ago 2
two things ive noticed about this video:
1: the guy at about 3:16 has tubes going into his pants, so yeah, hes gettin off.
2: just before the bomb engulfs the screen at 3:36, we can see a man killing himself pictured earlier, symbolizing the general suicide of the human race
wooothooot 2 years ago 2
this is DEEEEEP
cocaobean 2 years ago
KAYLEIGHHHHH!!!!
dcrcjoo 2 years ago
Wow, people really let fly on youtube, god bless pearl jam.
notforyou760 2 years ago
Right-wing conservatives
FreeMTrider 2 years ago
Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport, or lust, or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him, for he is the harbinger of death.
- Cornelius, Planet of the Apes
HazMatMedia 2 years ago 8
its darwinism baby!!!
Balian49 2 years ago
Darwins theories aren't just theories, they are true for all animals, but for us we have set ourselfs out of the "wild" world by advancing in intelligents. So, in a sense, Darwins theory would NO LONGER apply to humans.
hitohane 2 years ago
few corrections.
His theories are theories since they are not facts but is widely accepted. its a theory because its being changed, facts cannot change.
And it does still apply to humans, wtf do u mean it doesn't?
natural selection is extremely promienent in human society.
for example birthweight. rly light and rly heavy babies tend to die as do the mothers, meaning the medium weight babies live to pass on their genes.
Just because we are highly intelligent doesnt mean we aren't animals.
ehodaef 2 years ago
I agree that we seem to place ourselves too high. We've done so much that we consider humans to be "above animals"
Humans are ten times as barbaric as, say, a tiger.
At least tigers don't find pain funny or amusing. However I do if it's just an animation. What was I talking about again...?
qwertyqeys 2 years ago
Have you read Ishmael? That was the inspiration for this song.
GBart 2 years ago
Ishmael? I'm guessing you don't mean Moby Dick right? I've never read either of them. XD
qwertyqeys 2 years ago
Lol, no, Ishmael by Daniel Quinn. You should check it out, it's amazing.
GBart 2 years ago
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OKcomp 2 years ago
Ishmael is life-altering. Every human being should read it
OKcomp 2 years ago
Is it worth to read?
Mike4evermetal2 2 years ago
Sadly, we seem to be removing ourselves from the theory, rather than simply no longer applying. Rather than letting the weak and sickly humans die, we're doing everything we can to save them. Underweight babies, babies with genetic defects, malformed organs/physical formation. In nature these weak creatures would die of their own accord. We're allowing these weak genes to survive.
Humanity has truely lost it's humanity. It's sad, isn't it?
WeAreL3gion 2 years ago
RT: WeAreL3gion: stop being a neo malthus eugenics nazi and show some compassion to babies, monster
penguicold 2 years ago 2
We'd be showing more compassion to babies by letting those who will suffer their whole lives die with dignity, before they truely have a chance to suffer.
You're the monster if you think allowing a Cerebral Palsy child to live his life is humane. Imagine not being able to feed yourself, or clothe yourself, or wipe your own ass, or masturbate? That's what its like for them everyday. That's worser than hell.
WeAreL3gion 2 years ago
Some would say it's the anti-thesis of being humane to make the dicision for them.
yuothineyesasian 2 years ago
If I was crippled at birth, I'd want to die. If I was crippled now in a car accident, same thing. What point is there in living if you can't live life?
WeAreL3gion 2 years ago
Millions of people are crippled and don't want to die, I was in a car accident in '06. I shattered both my heels, fractured my kneecap, and tore my acl. I'm nowhere near severely crippled but I do live with a lot of pain. And the las thing I want is to die. I do agree that Genetic mdification is worse than Euthenasia, even though my name is a play on words "euthinization"... Get it? Because Genetic modification is pure vanity/egotistical, While euthenasia has can have misguided compassion.
yuothineyesasian 2 years ago
There is nothing misguided in euthenasia. It's a good thing. Banning it on the basis that it is murder as a crime against humanity.
What's worse: Putting down a new-born child because of a serious mental defect, or preventing a suffering adult his/her right to die a painless death?
WeAreL3gion 2 years ago
It would literally take millions upon millions of years to "weed out" all the bad genes through euthinasia. Since every human carries these mutations, though they are rarely expressed, it's an extremely ineffective means of forced evolution and/or sympathetic execution.
Over the long amount of time nessecary for these bad genes to be, again, "weeded out" of a population, many other genetic mutations would arise and in effect make euthinasia pointless in this regard.
yuothineyesasian 2 years ago 2
thats why we should genetically modify all babies to be more perfect. well at least the rich ones. thats why i'm getting into science anyway.
RollJob88 2 years ago
Genetic modification is far, far worse than any form of Euthenasia.
WeAreL3gion 2 years ago
If used wrongly, I strongly agree.
quantumdude 2 years ago
I don't let my very mild physical disabilities get in the way of me living my life. Right after my accident, when both my legs were in casts up to th knee, I thought my injuries to be much more severe than they were. I made friends with a few crippled people, one I'm still very close to today. He snapped his spine in a motocross accident when he was 16, he's paralyzed from mid chest down. I've never met anyone with as much of a love for life as him.
yuothineyesasian 2 years ago
You seem to believe we should put down everyone who has a slight disability. If that were the case I'd be dead too due to respiratory problems. Your friend, by the sounds of it, still has the ability to use his arms. He's still capable of doing things for himself. What if he were crippled from the neck down? Do you think he's appreciate life just as much? Appreciate not being able to feel anything?
WeAreL3gion 2 years ago
No, I was trying to conceptualize your argument. We can't project how we think we would feel if paralyzed/disabled onto those who are, to do that and then make decisions from those assumtions is to rob them of the right to decide. And that my be the only freedom they have left.
yuothineyesasian 2 years ago