@mikeyt34 actually April Gallup is the 1st to have Bush taken to court, look it yourself on the web and youtube, guess she's a "twoofer too" She was there in the pentagon, when the attack happened, sure you'll call her crazy, belittle her in some way, name calling, truther, twoofer and some other stupid name, but facts are facts, can't beat that with a bat.
@mjwible27 I know full well who April Gallup is. Have you ever read her petition to the courts? I have. They were ridiculous and patently absurd. She already sued American Airlines and settled out of court. Then she sues the govt saying there was no plane at all and it was a missle. Hmmm. Make up your mind Ms. Gallup. Nope, nothing to her claims, and it was sent recently to an appeals court where her attourrny was fined for it's wasting the time of the court. Betcha didn't know that.
@mjwible27 There's an entire thread about April Gallop, just google "JREF April Gallop lawsut". Educate yourself. Toward the end of the thread there are full court documents of her "trial" against Bush and Cheney. It's quite the lawsuit let me tell ya. Be sure and read about the sanctions against her attourneys as well. P.S. You misspelled Gallop.
LOL they are so full off it..Whe had never imagined planes flying into buildings on that massive scale, thats why whe had a drill the very same day and couldnt reognice fict from fact aheaheblblblblbl
If by stages you mean, you had your men plant the bomb, then it fell. 2 stages. Oh, and it just so happens that by the building falling you save some corporate whores from law suits because the information was destroyed that was against them? No shit, must be luck. Must be luck that for the first time in history fire has melted steel and caused an implosion and collapse in 6.5 seconds!
. . . the NIST director has determined that certain evidence . . is voluntarily provided . . not directly related to the building failure . . and that disclosure of that information would inhibit the voluntary provision of that type of information.
In other words: we aren't telling you all of our information. Only what we feel like. We can't check their work because they're not providing us with all of their information.
He actually said implosion and collaspe in the same paragraph! Amazing!
If he gave NY calm that day..it was because he really wasn't worried of another attack..he was doing his part!
In another video..he's ordering evacuation..then denies prior knowledge..then BBC reports the collaspe of WTC7 23 minutes before it happens!There is never a perfect crime..there's hundreds of clues,maybe thousands..people refuse to look!
When you accept attority as truth rather than truth as authority..well....
The way buildings Usually collapse??????? If you love Liberty, If you care about freedom, If you want to know the truth, If you need to see the lies revieled, "The powers, 9/11, 7/7, Cover-ups, The School system and the real biggie, The Mass Media!" Willing to spend some time to learn, even if it takes a few hours or days? Then go to Google Video and watch the series Pt1,2,3, David Ecke - Freedom or Fascism pt1
No one should know better than "Mr. Command Center" himself that Building 7 fell not in stages but, rather, somehow managed to drop, staight down, into a pile of no-secrets-left-to-find dust. (NYC Esq View)
"It occured to all of us that the buildings would ultimatly collapse..."
Yeaaagh...thanx for sharing that information to the remainder of the people who were told that they were in no danger and to stay in the second tower...
???? 1:09 he is explaining that the 9/11 collapses did not happen in the manner he would expect them to. so what does that tell you... UUUUGHHH bevis your a dumbass!
Expected wtc 7 to collapse! even though no other steel framed building had ever fully collapsed due to fire, before 9/11, and they have been being built for 100 years.
There was nothing falling from the building. There were explosions; there is a video on Youtube that shows explosions before the building went down. I am not sure of the name of it.
Just look at the upward and outward ejections of 1 and 2...how do steel girders, weighing tons get launched outward and upward in an arc?
The OFFICIAL CONSPIRACY is laughable!
Back on topic, Giullianis statement is acknowledging the truth!...he doesnt even realise what he's saying...even to a liar like hom the truth is obvious...
Plus even the max amount of heat (according to the max amount of fuel and the right amount of space for it to become as hot as possible) couldn't have melted the steel and collapsed the building, meaning if the building collapsed as a result the plane strike it would have collapsed basically immediately.
Giuliani's right. I don't know if he knows what he's getting at though. A building struck by a plane wouldn't collapse that way. The way the towers collapsed looked exactly how a controlled demolition looks. The towers collapsed in on themselves.
Yeah what they are saying seems to be in mockery. Every rational thinking person would understand that the behavior of the building's collapse could not have been due to only a plane crash, the collapse was part of a controlled demolition. Whether Guiliani is in on it or not is impossible to know for sure. I guess we don't really know who the heros and villains are.
For anyone interested in the scientific & factual analysis of WTC 7 & not unsubstantiated conspiracy nonsense, read NIST's interim report by googling NIST appendix L.
Here's an article by a physicist and mechanical engineer:
w w w. counterpunch. org/darkfire11282006.html
Here's a large amount of info that debunks all the WTC 7 myths:
Hardly devastating, svelte. That's the guy who was inside WTC 7 when both towers collapsed & he was blown into the air. Gee, I wonder what could have caused that. A single demo charge in the morning that brought down the building 7 hours later? Sure bet. BTW, the guy's story was reported by NIST, not the Commission. You sure are confused, aren't you?
Poetryhound you liar, he states he could clearly see 1 and 2 standing when stairwells exploded around and under him wile he was trying to escape 7...and as for no explosions...there is a clip of firefighters standing around saying that its (7) coming down and explosions can be heard in the background...
FDNY anticipated that the damage to WTC 7 would result in its collapse. They were certainly not part of any bomb plot and weren't informed of any bombs. No bombs went off at time of collapse.
WTC7 did fall in stages. The east penthouse collapses, then about 8 seconds later the west penthouse collapses, and then a couple seconds later the entire building collapses. So I don't see what's so incrimination to Giuliani (or even worthy of interest) about this video. He's just stating what the videos show.
Yes, go check out that video, and then come back and explain how a single alleged "demo charge" in the morning resulted in the collapse of WTC 7 about 6-7 hours later. When WTC 7 finally did collapse, no demo charges were seen or heard & there was no trace of any demo charges in the seismic record.
The seismic record from the Lamont Doherty Station showed an 18 second collapse. This does indicate the bldg fell in sections, starting with the heavily damaged south side that you can't see in the videos, which were all shot from the north.
Damn Rudy these steel buildings would ultimately collapse the way STEEL buildings normally do. In stages..well Mr Giuliani just recently a huge building(A TOWER) in China burned for hours. 1/3 of the top of the building decimated and guess what..it's still standing...heating steel actually tempers it. 3000 degrees farenheit to melt. The building that day never got hotter than 700-800 degrees.
the government probably installed bombs in building 7 after the first attack that happened years ago in case of an attack like 9/11 so that the building would fall down instead of over onto more buildings and people. in reality, they probably SAVED lives.
this asshole keeps using the term implode, no guiliani the towers exploded outwards throwing tons of steel and debris hundreds of feet outwards, guess wot? just like they would if you detonated hundreds of charges inside them, this guy must be psychic as well coz only three high rise steel framed buildings have ever collasps in history, and they were all on that day. wot a joke
whether they were tube in tube or not doesnt matter, they were designed to withstand multiple impacts, a b52 hit the empire state in the 40's so the designers factored this in to the design parametres, and the highest temperature you can expect from aircraft fuel is still way too low to undermine that structure.
jelleepit: I will have to disagree with you because I think everything matters. In regards to the empire state building, it was a B25, not B52. Also the speed of that plane was 1/2 of the planes that hit the wtc so you cant compare the two. In regards to the heat, why do you say its too low? Even at a low temperature of 600 degrees you will loose some integrity.
go check out steve e jones on here he is the expert not me, i know this though, even if they has lost intergrity they would have pancaked leaving 20% of their material on the ground and definately wouldnt have fallen at free fall speed taking just over 9 secs to come down, girders at ground zero has 45 degree cuts jsy like they would if you had demolished the building and there is clear squibs exploding from the sides as they drop.
jelleepit: I have seen many video of the full collapse and I can assure you that it did not fall in 9 seconds. The first outer skeleton beam took about 9 seconds because it did freefall in the air.
well the official report (the nist report) says 11 for the south and 9 for the north i might have that the opposite way round, lol and you can clearly watch any vid and time it on your watch it definately comes down at around that time, or you are watching a different building, i am not your enemy, i am concerned for your country
jelleepit: Why do you need a report when you can see it with your own eyes? A part of the tower comes down at that time because it was ejected into the air but most of the tower took alot longer and parts of the wtc1 took up to 30 seconds. I never said you were my enemy and what country do you think I am from?
dude theres no way in a trillion years any part of it took 30 secs go and look again m8 it takes no more than 10 secs from initital drop from very top till it hit the ground just type in collapsing towers in here and i dont know where your from
jelleepit: there are multiple video showing 60 stories of the wtc1's west side of the outer skeleton upright. Are you saying I dont know what I am viewing? I can see with my own eyes on multiple videos. Perhaps you havent seen what I seen?
jelleepit: If it would help you I can show you two videos. Search youtube for "wtc1 collapse" and you can see it starts at 1:00 and the west wall collapses at 1:30, thirty seconds later. If you search "inside wtc 8" then you can see that the tower collapses at 4:34 and the first part hits the ground at 4:35 about 11 seconds later. This is also evident in other videos as well. Do you not trust your own eyes?
ok m8 lets do this another way ok, my email is middle earth music at hot mail use this to get on my msn and we will talk in real time and we can both watch the same video ok
I dont use MSN, sorry. I am very sure that you will see everything I saw as it is plainly obvious what is going on. Plus there are so many videos out there showing the exact same thing from many angles and many distances from the WTC.
dude this is so frustrating lol, i have just watched several different vids all of them show a stable building burning and fully upright to become no more than dust at ground zero in less than 15 secs, email me using that email i sent i will reply with the vid
Ok, i will email you but perhaps you do not understand what you are looking at but 'inside wtc 8' the video is taken at the base so you know exactly when the tower first hit.
even if i accept that the heat could melt the steel inside (which was impossible) explain wtc7 coming down exactly the same way which had no plane hit it and was not in a major fire, how can you ignore the obvious wot were all the multiple explosions reported
Why do you need to accept that the steel melted? It doesnt need to melt. Furthermore, I am not sure what video you are watching but wtc7 did not come down anything like wtc1 and wtc2. Also the videos i see show a ranging fire.
no there were isolated fires, there were fire crews inside tackling them, and then silverstein says pull it, and minutes later it falls perfectly into its own footprint, pull it means demolish it btw, 3 buildings in 1 100 years have collapse like that all 3 on 9 11
jelleepit: i have seen video of ranging fires not isolated fires so I will disagree with you there. As for silverstein I believe you are also misunderstanding his words. Pull meant to pull out as in pull out the firemen. Why would he talk about demolition to a fireman?!
his actual words and i quote "maybe the smartest thing is to pull it, so they made that descision and we watched the building fall" this doesnt sound anything like pull the firecrew out you have to conceed, and how did mayor guiliani get the info that the buildings were about to collapse ages before they did?
this is wot is frustrating, its a fact that "pull it" is a demolition term meaning bring it down, and in a court of law ie facts not distortions that could only mean one thing, ONLY ONE MEANING demolish the building! how comes he says it and as soon as the firecrew are out and safe it falls to ground, you have to open your eyes my friend, please
Yes, he pulled the firemen out because over 300 died and then they watch the building fall. Better fall without firemen in there trying to put out fires, dont you think? As for wtc7, it wasnt even pulled (as in demolition) so why do you bring this up? It was obvious for hours the building was going to collapse. Everyone there could see it.
no it wasnt obvious steel framed buildings can burn forever without falling fact 1 in madrid a steel framed building burnt intensly for 24 hours and remained standing how? and he didnt say pull the firemen out he said pull it dont twist words to suit your argument, the building fell perdectly into its footprint
jelleep: That steel framed building in madrid started to collapse just by fire. I am sure that if a plane hit it at 500 mph that it would have fallen too. Look what a piece of foam did the the space shuttle columbia. Now if Silverstein did say pull it then why wasnt it pulled down??
ok once again, pull it is a demolition term meaning bring it down in a controlled explosion. quote "so they made that descision and we watched it come down" how else can yu interpret this!!!! do me a favor find me one more building steel framed that has collapsed due to fire and i will total be convinced go on please
if you are so desperate that you are using columbia to prove a point then you have lost the plot, that explosion was caused by fuel being exposed by human error, and it an utterly different situation, i mean come on, 911 compared to a rocket fueled shuttle lmao
I am not desperate. I simply look at the facts. I brought up columbia because a piece of foam going 500 mph cracked columbia. Can you image what a plane going that fast would do? Well you dont have to imagine because it happened. Do you see why I brought it up?
the building was constructed to withstand aircraft impact it was built for that it is preposturous to believe a plane could destroy them utterly unthinkable in architectural terms! it was designed to withstamd open your eyes
Jelleepit: I saw the interview on History channel regarding the wtc taking hits from a plane. It was described as if you punch holes in a screen door, the integrity of the entire screen is basically still there. Unfortunetely, they never counted on the plane at the speed it was going nor did they count on the fire that took place.
hmmm, Columbia is made to be as light as possible. It's not made for impact. Take a carbon fiber Ferrari and smash it into a concrete wall, now take a hummer, reinforced with thousands of steel beams each in excess of tonnes of weight. That hummer isn't going anywhere (for several reasons ;) ).
can you also explain why, on the bbc in the uk the public were informed at least 30 minutes too early that wtc7 had actually collapsed, when the reporter is saying this the building is clearly still upright behind her left side, who fed this report to them this is beyond belief look at the facts dude
Jelleepit: They knew for hours that it was going to collapse. I cant answer why other people do what they do as I am not them. I can only answer for myself.
if they knew hours before then you must be saying that they sacraficed all the firemen and cops, you cannot get out of this, if they thought it was in iminent danger all crews would have evacuated
jelleepit: I do enjoy talking with you about this further but I will have to take a break as I am needed elsewhere. I do promise to come back and debate some more. Its been fun so far, thanks for the comments and I do promise to write more soon.
you say they knew for hours b4, which hopurs are you talking about it was 102 minutes from impact to 1st collapse that isnt hours it one hour 32 minutes, and not once in any broadcast did any "expert" inform anyone of collapse, the very opposite in fact, saying these buildings are in no danger of falling they are designed to withstand this
jelleepit:ok, i see that I may have confused you. We were talking about wtc7 so I continued the conversation from there. Sorry for the confusion. I will have to choose my words better.
When you do the searches, please look at the FIRST video on both searches. And for the 2nd one it starts at 4:34 and the first part hits at 4:45, eleven seconds later.
keep on lying guliani, if that shit u say is true thn the cameras are lying , "stages" or you mean demolition. if throwing debri onto a building made buildings disintegrate to dust, i would be a rich man. am not and neither are you loyal you blood thirsty prostitude
i thought this man was a man of the people,he is a man who lives in his own world,why did ye think they would fall,the fire men didnt think they would fall until it was to late
That boy is suspect. He stutters to much. I see that as a tell. Maybe I am wrong. Does he usually stutter? Can you think of another guy who stutters like rudy9/11.
Is it me or does he seem to be making this up as he goes along with this B.S.. WTC 7 (steel frame) fell in it's own footprints in 6 seconds, explain that Rudy?
Am I wrong or DOES he admit to have seen the towers collapse? Maybe in his 15m$ reinforced bunker in tower7!
And he dares to talk about the Victims and of death so carelessly. After all he sent those people in to die because he knew that the buildings were strapped with bombs. That makes him a murderer in any ones book. That is if you care...
No, Rudy, thanks to you we will NEVER be able to accurately figure out how many of the people were killed, because you "scooped and dumped" their remains. No investigation of the collapsed building. No respect for the dead. You just removed all the evidence and much of the remains of the dead and sent them all to the dump or to China to be melted down. Then further harmed people by telling everyone the air was not dangerous. Shame on you. Investigate 911.
"If the people knew what we had done, they would chase us down the street and lynch us." George H.W. Bush, son of Prescott Bush a banker who aided Hitler
H.L. Mencken said it well: "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
"It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives. "
Once again we do agree, people (for the most part) do have morals, but I would argue people have morals INSPITE of religion not because of them. I do not think you would agree that stoning a disobedient child or someone who works on the Sabbath a very moral thing to do. The moral code set forth in the bible says that is perfectly acceptable thing to do (much less demands it). How do you reconcile that?
I would happily agree with you we don't know (we also don't know if there are invisible pink unicorns) but I strongly disagree with anyone who says they do know and take it one step further and say not only do they know, but they also know the "word of god". The idea of such a think is preposterous, and why do you think it is that whatever religion "you are born into" is the right one? It's completely arbitrary.
Yes ironically the best tool to debunk religion is to use their own religious dogma. Reading the bible w/ an open, critical, rational mind makes it impossible to take it seriously. If they can, I would concede they are either monstrously delusional or consciously deceitful. I don't see how they could differentiate between the bible and any other friary tale, does the storey of jack and his bean stalk sound any less "plausible" then noah and his ark?
Science and religon are not both faith based belief systems. Faith is firm belief in something for which there is no proof. Science is system of knowledge covering general truths or the operation of general laws obtained and tested through scientific method.
One asks questions and seeks the answers, the other already knows the answers and seeks only that what validates what they already believe.
There is no more proof that god exists then there he doesn't, but the odds are the same as the existence as invisible pink unicorns, or a teapot orbiting mars, it is possible but it is not 50/50, but in fact HIGHLY improbable and please don't evoke Bayesian argument or Aquinas five proofs, they are utterly ridiculous.
And fellow rabbit, sadly he does know his scripture. yes it may say that in matt 7:1 but in matt 5:17 jesus says "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets" Similar passages can be found at Luke 16:17, Timothy 3:16, Mark 7:9-13, John 7:19. So according to the NT the rules of the OT still apply, hence the murder of witches, homosexuals, adulterer, followers of other religions, disobedient children, people working on the Sabbath, etc, are all demanded by god
Religon allows people to imagine their concerns are moral when they are highly immoral- pressing these concerns inflicts appalling suffering on innocent human beings. Christians like to expend more "moral" energy opposing abortion then fighting genocide, it explains why they preach against condom use in sub-Saharan Africa where millions die from aids each year, and are more concerned with a 150 cell human embryo more then the life of a 7 year old girl with severe spinal cord injury.
"Religon allows people to imagine their concerns are moral when they are highly immoral" Correct... its corrupt logic that allows people to do this because you still find it secular and anti-religious societies. Morality is not the common variable.
and the towers where burnt by jet fuel, carpet, the metal from the plain, the seats from the plain, the computer screens, computer monitors, desks, chairs, carpet and on and on. And your point being??? show me an consensus of experts in this field who agree with you that the fire could not collapse the building. Forget consensus, how about just a hand full?
I don't hate god, your god, nor zeus, mythra, allah, durja, or chaac, they simply do not exist. So if you don't mind, keep your hateful little delusions to yourself. We do not need your insane, irrational bronze age dogma poisoning the minds of children. Maybe before you have your imaginary friend damn me to an eternity of suffering you should try developing your own code of ethics and morality instead of defaulting to the barbaric text of your so-called holy book.
"so-called" "barbaric" "imaginary friend" "delusions"... and you called (who ever your calling) "hateful"... my gawd you spit out more insults in one post than I've ever seen in my life. But thats what atheist are good at I guess. Try reading William Golding's "Thinking as a Hobby"
History of skyscrapers is so safe, because we know alot about what causes a skyscraper to collapse thus we put measure to prevent it, even though none have. We know they can collapse from physics, chemistry and structural engineering. We know what kind of heat is needed. Which is why we train fire fighters to look for the signs and evacuate, because every aspect of science tells us it can happen.
your right its not a "liberal conspiracy". Its also an anarchist conspiracy, and a neo-comunist conspiracy and a neo-marxism conspiracy, and a lenonist conspiracy, and all the other anti-capitalist groups out their conspiracy. What fools you people are! *fist in sky*
Hi I am Rudy Giuliani. I am all about saving money, remember I was the one that chose to throw all the bodies from September 11th in the trash. But I still like to use the fact that I was mayor of New York when I was attacked. I am a pretty good actor (sometimes) *blush*. My hobbies are flip-flopping, battleship and scaring kids.
Tanker Truck Fire Collapses Bay Area Overpass 4/29/07 At a noontime press conference held at a toll plaza near the collapse, Mr. Kempton said the heat from the fireball had most likely melted the steel girders and bolts that supported the concrete roadway. "If you have that kind of heat," he said, "you're going to have this kind of reaction. We're not surprised by this result."
Giuliani is so delusional so much so that it's unbelievable. What a lisping idiot! Wasn't one of his his offices in WTC7? Shouldn't he be concerned and raise questions about the instability of the building that he worked in? A building that collapsed due to small fires? How could he have worked in such a weak building? Aren't there extra safety codes for such high government offices? Am I the first and only to bring this up?
Giuliani is trying pretty hard to convince us of his lies. He is a desparate man thanks to Ron Paul for exposing the truth behind the lies of these mentally deranged pathological liars in the organized crime club nwo. Perhaps it is time to get neck sizes and fit them with a nice hemp rope neck tie. For the organized crime info go to hawks cafe dot com
According to Guilliani they knew the building would collapse, but they didn't do anything to prevent the firefighters from going in? He's either a liar or evil bastard.
Can you believe that this idiot says " we knew the building was going to collapse the way that all buildings collapse" but no other steel framed building has ever fallen from fire.A,B there was a bunker inside that building that was a secure bunker with fireproff rooms and comunication, water,food the building was built to withstand dangerous conditions and it just fell....RIGHT!
Try saying ..great work Rudi.Thank you for keeping sanity in NY while panic wastrying to settle in.Thank you for moving the media and everyone fromthe base of the towers..Thank you Mr Giuliani for heeding my warning.
No he does not claim what the topic says
haistapaska20 2 months ago
I live in a wooden house, my neighbors' house caught fire and no home in my neighborhood ever have collapsed. :(
krazyzyko 5 months ago
Why is this guy still alive?
dobberdoss 8 months ago
ABSOLUTE PROOF!!! YEA TWOOFERS!!!! TAKE IT TO COURT RIGHT NOW!!!! WHATCHA WAITING FOR LOSERS!!!!
mikeyt34 9 months ago
@mikeyt34 actually April Gallup is the 1st to have Bush taken to court, look it yourself on the web and youtube, guess she's a "twoofer too" She was there in the pentagon, when the attack happened, sure you'll call her crazy, belittle her in some way, name calling, truther, twoofer and some other stupid name, but facts are facts, can't beat that with a bat.
mjwible27 8 months ago
@mjwible27 I know full well who April Gallup is. Have you ever read her petition to the courts? I have. They were ridiculous and patently absurd. She already sued American Airlines and settled out of court. Then she sues the govt saying there was no plane at all and it was a missle. Hmmm. Make up your mind Ms. Gallup. Nope, nothing to her claims, and it was sent recently to an appeals court where her attourrny was fined for it's wasting the time of the court. Betcha didn't know that.
mikeyt34 8 months ago
stfu
Born2Flesh 6 months ago
@mjwible27 There's an entire thread about April Gallop, just google "JREF April Gallop lawsut". Educate yourself. Toward the end of the thread there are full court documents of her "trial" against Bush and Cheney. It's quite the lawsuit let me tell ya. Be sure and read about the sanctions against her attourneys as well. P.S. You misspelled Gallop.
mikeyt34 8 months ago
@mikeyt34 ok thanks I Will read it for sure. and you misspelled lawsuit ;-)
mjwible27 8 months ago
@mikeyt34 thrown out, figures... Nobody will ever win, it's to deep and will never be solved.
mjwible27 8 months ago
Rudolph Giuliani
You will have to face justice in this life or the next.
Lets hope its soon.
surfn123 1 year ago 3
Sociopathic scum control this planet
pogmotho1n 1 year ago 5
The secret is out now, Giuliani is a moron.
jlailman 1 year ago 3
BAN how can this guy, Gulliguilt, live with himself?
vnmabie 1 year ago
LOL they are so full off it..Whe had never imagined planes flying into buildings on that massive scale, thats why whe had a drill the very same day and couldnt reognice fict from fact aheaheblblblblbl
ppedalen 1 year ago
Lying toerag. Bullshitting through his teeth. His frequent pauses for thought is very revealing.
This guy was in on it, no doubt about it.
The86416 2 years ago
wow! this guy really is garbage! traitor!!!!
bdsw30 2 years ago 2
If by stages you mean, you had your men plant the bomb, then it fell. 2 stages. Oh, and it just so happens that by the building falling you save some corporate whores from law suits because the information was destroyed that was against them? No shit, must be luck. Must be luck that for the first time in history fire has melted steel and caused an implosion and collapse in 6.5 seconds!
RageAgainstMachinist 2 years ago
lol... in stages.... 7WTC.... "over a period of time" ya over a period of 6.5 seconds.
MindControlMatrix 2 years ago 3
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jdsilver86 2 years ago
big fat lying robot
1madason 3 years ago
Giu're the biggest traitor of NY
ulygatore 3 years ago 3
My bullcrap radar has a big blip on it and it looks like Rudy's head.
scottgarren 3 years ago
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NIST's WTC 7 report disclaimer No. 3:
. . . the NIST director has determined that certain evidence . . is voluntarily provided . . not directly related to the building failure . . and that disclosure of that information would inhibit the voluntary provision of that type of information.
In other words: we aren't telling you all of our information. Only what we feel like. We can't check their work because they're not providing us with all of their information.
Criminal investigation.
bobbygnosis 3 years ago
This guy is clearly struggling with his maybe's, and probably's building 7 came down all at once. unless your counting your stages in seconds.
ErikTekno 3 years ago
He actually said implosion and collaspe in the same paragraph! Amazing!
If he gave NY calm that day..it was because he really wasn't worried of another attack..he was doing his part!
In another video..he's ordering evacuation..then denies prior knowledge..then BBC reports the collaspe of WTC7 23 minutes before it happens!There is never a perfect crime..there's hundreds of clues,maybe thousands..people refuse to look!
When you accept attority as truth rather than truth as authority..well....
beckpod1 3 years ago 2
mskydolphin 3 years ago
Stages? Yeah, it fell in stages. First the penthouse collapsed, then the whole building collasped.
ConspiracyWorld 3 years ago 3
Giuliani is a hero.
If it were not for him the whole city of New York your have collapsed.
Ok, just kidding, sorry.
He's just a bought mob capo.
va1ha11a 4 years ago
No one should know better than "Mr. Command Center" himself that Building 7 fell not in stages but, rather, somehow managed to drop, staight down, into a pile of no-secrets-left-to-find dust. (NYC Esq View)
NYCEsqView 4 years ago 4
"It occured to all of us that the buildings would ultimatly collapse..."
Yeaaagh...thanx for sharing that information to the remainder of the people who were told that they were in no danger and to stay in the second tower...
???? 1:09 he is explaining that the 9/11 collapses did not happen in the manner he would expect them to. so what does that tell you... UUUUGHHH bevis your a dumbass!
realistromeo 4 years ago 7
Expected wtc 7 to collapse! even though no other steel framed building had ever fully collapsed due to fire, before 9/11, and they have been being built for 100 years.
Anunnaki12 4 years ago 4
9/11 Was an Inside Job! He is 100% responsible for 9/11! He is a criminal. He is a liar. He did the inside part of 9/11!!!!!!!
TGWMPE 4 years ago 4
Alex Jones have to tell the whole truth, the truth about the "Israeli" involvement in 9/11.
jayezzo 4 years ago 4
He was part of it.
There was nothing falling from the building. There were explosions; there is a video on Youtube that shows explosions before the building went down. I am not sure of the name of it.
jayezzo 4 years ago 5
Just look at the upward and outward ejections of 1 and 2...how do steel girders, weighing tons get launched outward and upward in an arc?
The OFFICIAL CONSPIRACY is laughable!
Back on topic, Giullianis statement is acknowledging the truth!...he doesnt even realise what he's saying...even to a liar like hom the truth is obvious...
Wyndup 4 years ago
Plus even the max amount of heat (according to the max amount of fuel and the right amount of space for it to become as hot as possible) couldn't have melted the steel and collapsed the building, meaning if the building collapsed as a result the plane strike it would have collapsed basically immediately.
dbmcmillan 4 years ago 2
Giuliani's right. I don't know if he knows what he's getting at though. A building struck by a plane wouldn't collapse that way. The way the towers collapsed looked exactly how a controlled demolition looks. The towers collapsed in on themselves.
dbmcmillan 4 years ago 2
especially at the end when he says that he was surprised to see the building "implode". They're throwing the truth right in our face.
jemusser 4 years ago 9
Yeah what they are saying seems to be in mockery. Every rational thinking person would understand that the behavior of the building's collapse could not have been due to only a plane crash, the collapse was part of a controlled demolition. Whether Guiliani is in on it or not is impossible to know for sure. I guess we don't really know who the heros and villains are.
dbmcmillan 4 years ago
PoetryHound, two words...FUCK OFF!
: )
Wyndup 4 years ago
Giuliani is a blatent liar Rudy knew!!!
BuahCrimeFamily 4 years ago 3
f-ing liar! justice will come to you guoleiani. Just wait
Mariachi153 4 years ago 3
For anyone interested in the scientific & factual analysis of WTC 7 & not unsubstantiated conspiracy nonsense, read NIST's interim report by googling NIST appendix L.
Here's an article by a physicist and mechanical engineer:
w w w. counterpunch. org/darkfire11282006.html
Here's a large amount of info that debunks all the WTC 7 myths:
wtc7lies. googlepages. com/introduction
PoetryHound 4 years ago
Hardly devastating, svelte. That's the guy who was inside WTC 7 when both towers collapsed & he was blown into the air. Gee, I wonder what could have caused that. A single demo charge in the morning that brought down the building 7 hours later? Sure bet. BTW, the guy's story was reported by NIST, not the Commission. You sure are confused, aren't you?
PoetryHound 4 years ago
Poetryhound you liar, he states he could clearly see 1 and 2 standing when stairwells exploded around and under him wile he was trying to escape 7...and as for no explosions...there is a clip of firefighters standing around saying that its (7) coming down and explosions can be heard in the background...
Wyndup 4 years ago
No windows in stairwell.
FDNY anticipated that the damage to WTC 7 would result in its collapse. They were certainly not part of any bomb plot and weren't informed of any bombs. No bombs went off at time of collapse.
PoetryHound 4 years ago
WTC7 did fall in stages. The east penthouse collapses, then about 8 seconds later the west penthouse collapses, and then a couple seconds later the entire building collapses. So I don't see what's so incrimination to Giuliani (or even worthy of interest) about this video. He's just stating what the videos show.
RKOwens4 4 years ago
Hahah Guliani, enjoy prison... You flower you.
ifurn0 4 years ago 2
Yes, go check out that video, and then come back and explain how a single alleged "demo charge" in the morning resulted in the collapse of WTC 7 about 6-7 hours later. When WTC 7 finally did collapse, no demo charges were seen or heard & there was no trace of any demo charges in the seismic record.
PoetryHound 4 years ago
The seismic record from the Lamont Doherty Station showed an 18 second collapse. This does indicate the bldg fell in sections, starting with the heavily damaged south side that you can't see in the videos, which were all shot from the north.
PoetryHound 4 years ago
That video of the collapse of wtc7 is not 18s.. this guy is in denial. R u in the army, navy or something?
tapiwakay 4 years ago
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Looks like you don't know what "seismic record" means.
PoetryHound 4 years ago
WTC 7 fell in a matter of seconds, straight down. What is he talking about?
Tylakk 4 years ago
Oops Goolie looks like you need to keep that stuttering slimy mouth of yours shut.
Hazzard65 4 years ago 3
cunt
lewisdream 4 years ago
ya becuz it was a controlled demolition
fukin lyin assholes that run our counrtry u know
bobo480 4 years ago 3
timeforchange2007.blogspot
I will change things! THEY HAVE GONE TOO FAR!!!
begotka2007 4 years ago
Giuliani is such a lying bag of scum... -_-
NikoKun 4 years ago 2
lol. "Here's a man who..."
Patriotgamez 4 years ago
Damn Rudy these steel buildings would ultimately collapse the way STEEL buildings normally do. In stages..well Mr Giuliani just recently a huge building(A TOWER) in China burned for hours. 1/3 of the top of the building decimated and guess what..it's still standing...heating steel actually tempers it. 3000 degrees farenheit to melt. The building that day never got hotter than 700-800 degrees.
riceowlex 4 years ago 3
How many fire men on dispatch Reported Bombs going off.
Burn Guliani Burn.
amajetich 4 years ago
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9/11 was an inside job
idotvads 4 years ago
the government probably installed bombs in building 7 after the first attack that happened years ago in case of an attack like 9/11 so that the building would fall down instead of over onto more buildings and people. in reality, they probably SAVED lives.
dustykid8 4 years ago
Whatever you taking...warn me. I don't want any!
UPCHUKKER 4 years ago
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Brutmax 4 years ago
Did you notice his eyes when he was trying to describe how buildings "usually" collapse? That is a clear sign of someone lying.
avaricefalls 4 years ago
LIAR! And this guy is running for president on the memory of dead firemen who died in those demolitions.
migraneboy2006 4 years ago
this asshole keeps using the term implode, no guiliani the towers exploded outwards throwing tons of steel and debris hundreds of feet outwards, guess wot? just like they would if you detonated hundreds of charges inside them, this guy must be psychic as well coz only three high rise steel framed buildings have ever collasps in history, and they were all on that day. wot a joke
jelleepit 4 years ago
jelleepit: wtc towers were not steel framed. They were a tube-in-tube structure.
opusbeme 4 years ago
whether they were tube in tube or not doesnt matter, they were designed to withstand multiple impacts, a b52 hit the empire state in the 40's so the designers factored this in to the design parametres, and the highest temperature you can expect from aircraft fuel is still way too low to undermine that structure.
jelleepit 4 years ago
jelleepit: I will have to disagree with you because I think everything matters. In regards to the empire state building, it was a B25, not B52. Also the speed of that plane was 1/2 of the planes that hit the wtc so you cant compare the two. In regards to the heat, why do you say its too low? Even at a low temperature of 600 degrees you will loose some integrity.
opusbeme 4 years ago
go check out steve e jones on here he is the expert not me, i know this though, even if they has lost intergrity they would have pancaked leaving 20% of their material on the ground and definately wouldnt have fallen at free fall speed taking just over 9 secs to come down, girders at ground zero has 45 degree cuts jsy like they would if you had demolished the building and there is clear squibs exploding from the sides as they drop.
jelleepit 4 years ago
jelleepit: I have seen many video of the full collapse and I can assure you that it did not fall in 9 seconds. The first outer skeleton beam took about 9 seconds because it did freefall in the air.
opusbeme 4 years ago
well the official report (the nist report) says 11 for the south and 9 for the north i might have that the opposite way round, lol and you can clearly watch any vid and time it on your watch it definately comes down at around that time, or you are watching a different building, i am not your enemy, i am concerned for your country
jelleepit 4 years ago
jelleepit: Why do you need a report when you can see it with your own eyes? A part of the tower comes down at that time because it was ejected into the air but most of the tower took alot longer and parts of the wtc1 took up to 30 seconds. I never said you were my enemy and what country do you think I am from?
opusbeme 4 years ago
dude theres no way in a trillion years any part of it took 30 secs go and look again m8 it takes no more than 10 secs from initital drop from very top till it hit the ground just type in collapsing towers in here and i dont know where your from
jelleepit 4 years ago
jelleepit: there are multiple video showing 60 stories of the wtc1's west side of the outer skeleton upright. Are you saying I dont know what I am viewing? I can see with my own eyes on multiple videos. Perhaps you havent seen what I seen?
opusbeme 4 years ago
jelleepit: If it would help you I can show you two videos. Search youtube for "wtc1 collapse" and you can see it starts at 1:00 and the west wall collapses at 1:30, thirty seconds later. If you search "inside wtc 8" then you can see that the tower collapses at 4:34 and the first part hits the ground at 4:35 about 11 seconds later. This is also evident in other videos as well. Do you not trust your own eyes?
opusbeme 4 years ago
i will take a look, but you can tell me this in the meantime, i want your explaination of why the towers actually collapsed cya in a bit
jelleepit 4 years ago
Jelleepit: The top of the towers collapse because it no longer could support the weight.
opusbeme 4 years ago
ok m8 lets do this another way ok, my email is middle earth music at hot mail use this to get on my msn and we will talk in real time and we can both watch the same video ok
jelleepit 4 years ago
I dont use MSN, sorry. I am very sure that you will see everything I saw as it is plainly obvious what is going on. Plus there are so many videos out there showing the exact same thing from many angles and many distances from the WTC.
opusbeme 4 years ago
dude this is so frustrating lol, i have just watched several different vids all of them show a stable building burning and fully upright to become no more than dust at ground zero in less than 15 secs, email me using that email i sent i will reply with the vid
jelleepit 4 years ago
Ok, i will email you but perhaps you do not understand what you are looking at but 'inside wtc 8' the video is taken at the base so you know exactly when the tower first hit.
opusbeme 4 years ago
even if i accept that the heat could melt the steel inside (which was impossible) explain wtc7 coming down exactly the same way which had no plane hit it and was not in a major fire, how can you ignore the obvious wot were all the multiple explosions reported
jelleepit 4 years ago
Why do you need to accept that the steel melted? It doesnt need to melt. Furthermore, I am not sure what video you are watching but wtc7 did not come down anything like wtc1 and wtc2. Also the videos i see show a ranging fire.
opusbeme 4 years ago
no there were isolated fires, there were fire crews inside tackling them, and then silverstein says pull it, and minutes later it falls perfectly into its own footprint, pull it means demolish it btw, 3 buildings in 1 100 years have collapse like that all 3 on 9 11
jelleepit 4 years ago
jelleepit: i have seen video of ranging fires not isolated fires so I will disagree with you there. As for silverstein I believe you are also misunderstanding his words. Pull meant to pull out as in pull out the firemen. Why would he talk about demolition to a fireman?!
opusbeme 4 years ago
his actual words and i quote "maybe the smartest thing is to pull it, so they made that descision and we watched the building fall" this doesnt sound anything like pull the firecrew out you have to conceed, and how did mayor guiliani get the info that the buildings were about to collapse ages before they did?
jelleepit 4 years ago
this is wot is frustrating, its a fact that "pull it" is a demolition term meaning bring it down, and in a court of law ie facts not distortions that could only mean one thing, ONLY ONE MEANING demolish the building! how comes he says it and as soon as the firecrew are out and safe it falls to ground, you have to open your eyes my friend, please
jelleepit 4 years ago
Yes, he pulled the firemen out because over 300 died and then they watch the building fall. Better fall without firemen in there trying to put out fires, dont you think? As for wtc7, it wasnt even pulled (as in demolition) so why do you bring this up? It was obvious for hours the building was going to collapse. Everyone there could see it.
opusbeme 4 years ago
no it wasnt obvious steel framed buildings can burn forever without falling fact 1 in madrid a steel framed building burnt intensly for 24 hours and remained standing how? and he didnt say pull the firemen out he said pull it dont twist words to suit your argument, the building fell perdectly into its footprint
jelleepit 4 years ago
jelleep: That steel framed building in madrid started to collapse just by fire. I am sure that if a plane hit it at 500 mph that it would have fallen too. Look what a piece of foam did the the space shuttle columbia. Now if Silverstein did say pull it then why wasnt it pulled down??
opusbeme 4 years ago
ok once again, pull it is a demolition term meaning bring it down in a controlled explosion. quote "so they made that descision and we watched it come down" how else can yu interpret this!!!! do me a favor find me one more building steel framed that has collapsed due to fire and i will total be convinced go on please
3 in history fell all same day how weird
jelleepit 4 years ago
if you are so desperate that you are using columbia to prove a point then you have lost the plot, that explosion was caused by fuel being exposed by human error, and it an utterly different situation, i mean come on, 911 compared to a rocket fueled shuttle lmao
jelleepit 4 years ago
I am not desperate. I simply look at the facts. I brought up columbia because a piece of foam going 500 mph cracked columbia. Can you image what a plane going that fast would do? Well you dont have to imagine because it happened. Do you see why I brought it up?
opusbeme 4 years ago
the building was constructed to withstand aircraft impact it was built for that it is preposturous to believe a plane could destroy them utterly unthinkable in architectural terms! it was designed to withstamd open your eyes
jelleepit 4 years ago
Jelleepit: I saw the interview on History channel regarding the wtc taking hits from a plane. It was described as if you punch holes in a screen door, the integrity of the entire screen is basically still there. Unfortunetely, they never counted on the plane at the speed it was going nor did they count on the fire that took place.
opusbeme 4 years ago
hmmm, Columbia is made to be as light as possible. It's not made for impact. Take a carbon fiber Ferrari and smash it into a concrete wall, now take a hummer, reinforced with thousands of steel beams each in excess of tonnes of weight. That hummer isn't going anywhere (for several reasons ;) ).
nicovideotube 4 years ago
No, pull doesnt mean bring down in a controlled demolition. WTC6 was pulled and they didnt use explosives. They use cables to pull.
opusbeme 4 years ago
can you also explain why, on the bbc in the uk the public were informed at least 30 minutes too early that wtc7 had actually collapsed, when the reporter is saying this the building is clearly still upright behind her left side, who fed this report to them this is beyond belief look at the facts dude
jelleepit 4 years ago
Jelleepit: They knew for hours that it was going to collapse. I cant answer why other people do what they do as I am not them. I can only answer for myself.
opusbeme 4 years ago
if they knew hours before then you must be saying that they sacraficed all the firemen and cops, you cannot get out of this, if they thought it was in iminent danger all crews would have evacuated
jelleepit 4 years ago
jelleepit: I do enjoy talking with you about this further but I will have to take a break as I am needed elsewhere. I do promise to come back and debate some more. Its been fun so far, thanks for the comments and I do promise to write more soon.
opusbeme 4 years ago
you say they knew for hours b4, which hopurs are you talking about it was 102 minutes from impact to 1st collapse that isnt hours it one hour 32 minutes, and not once in any broadcast did any "expert" inform anyone of collapse, the very opposite in fact, saying these buildings are in no danger of falling they are designed to withstand this
jelleepit 4 years ago
jelleepit:ok, i see that I may have confused you. We were talking about wtc7 so I continued the conversation from there. Sorry for the confusion. I will have to choose my words better.
opusbeme 4 years ago
jelleepit: They knew hours before so no one was in the building of wtc7. No one was sacrificed. They were evacuated. Did you think differently?
opusbeme 4 years ago
When you do the searches, please look at the FIRST video on both searches. And for the 2nd one it starts at 4:34 and the first part hits at 4:45, eleven seconds later.
opusbeme 4 years ago
wot a lying peice of scum, i didnt realise that stages meant 6 seconds for fuck sake, how can the american people be so blind to their evil govt!!!!!
jelleepit 4 years ago
What a complete piece of shit. Even the firefighters and the police department have turned on him. THAT should be a huge clue to the American public.
atlcowboy2536 4 years ago
keep on lying guliani, if that shit u say is true thn the cameras are lying , "stages" or you mean demolition. if throwing debri onto a building made buildings disintegrate to dust, i would be a rich man. am not and neither are you loyal you blood thirsty prostitude
mboromboro 4 years ago
i thought this man was a man of the people,he is a man who lives in his own world,why did ye think they would fall,the fire men didnt think they would fall until it was to late
grenseel 4 years ago
That boy is suspect. He stutters to much. I see that as a tell. Maybe I am wrong. Does he usually stutter? Can you think of another guy who stutters like rudy9/11.
BenFranklinFan 4 years ago
he's stuttering to help himself sort out the lies to make them seem believable, and he does coke
s13bishop 4 years ago
wel best of luck u americans ...he is going to be the next president of United States of America....
we, the rest of the third world is already suffering and welcome u to hell as wel...enjoy urselves
shahrezkhan 4 years ago
Is it me or does he seem to be making this up as he goes along with this B.S.. WTC 7 (steel frame) fell in it's own footprints in 6 seconds, explain that Rudy?
Pyramid2000 4 years ago
new confederacy dot com...
freightmaster2 4 years ago
Am I wrong or DOES he admit to have seen the towers collapse? Maybe in his 15m$ reinforced bunker in tower7!
And he dares to talk about the Victims and of death so carelessly. After all he sent those people in to die because he knew that the buildings were strapped with bombs. That makes him a murderer in any ones book. That is if you care...
hitlerwasamerican 4 years ago
No, Rudy, thanks to you we will NEVER be able to accurately figure out how many of the people were killed, because you "scooped and dumped" their remains. No investigation of the collapsed building. No respect for the dead. You just removed all the evidence and much of the remains of the dead and sent them all to the dump or to China to be melted down. Then further harmed people by telling everyone the air was not dangerous. Shame on you. Investigate 911.
jemusser 4 years ago
that lying cocksucker
chibangin007 4 years ago
"If the people knew what we had done, they would chase us down the street and lynch us." George H.W. Bush, son of Prescott Bush a banker who aided Hitler
theone23ord 4 years ago
H.L. Mencken said it well: "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
theone23ord 4 years ago
" WAR is a racket. It always has been."
"It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives. "
General Smedly Butler
google bush crime family
theone23ord 4 years ago
Common people don't want war. It is the leaders who determine the policy,
and it is always a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy,
or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no
voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
Simply tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack
of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.
Hermann Goering
theone23ord 4 years ago
I can point to many areas of science where even the official view is tending towards accepting some higher intelligence.
Really prove it, i would love to see it!!
TheRadicalRabbit 4 years ago
"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it"
Adolf Hitler
theone23ord 4 years ago
Once again we do agree, people (for the most part) do have morals, but I would argue people have morals INSPITE of religion not because of them. I do not think you would agree that stoning a disobedient child or someone who works on the Sabbath a very moral thing to do. The moral code set forth in the bible says that is perfectly acceptable thing to do (much less demands it). How do you reconcile that?
TheRadicalRabbit 4 years ago
I would happily agree with you we don't know (we also don't know if there are invisible pink unicorns) but I strongly disagree with anyone who says they do know and take it one step further and say not only do they know, but they also know the "word of god". The idea of such a think is preposterous, and why do you think it is that whatever religion "you are born into" is the right one? It's completely arbitrary.
TheRadicalRabbit 4 years ago
Yes ironically the best tool to debunk religion is to use their own religious dogma. Reading the bible w/ an open, critical, rational mind makes it impossible to take it seriously. If they can, I would concede they are either monstrously delusional or consciously deceitful. I don't see how they could differentiate between the bible and any other friary tale, does the storey of jack and his bean stalk sound any less "plausible" then noah and his ark?
TheRadicalRabbit 4 years ago
Science and religon are not both faith based belief systems. Faith is firm belief in something for which there is no proof. Science is system of knowledge covering general truths or the operation of general laws obtained and tested through scientific method.
One asks questions and seeks the answers, the other already knows the answers and seeks only that what validates what they already believe.
TheRadicalRabbit 4 years ago
There is no more proof that god exists then there he doesn't, but the odds are the same as the existence as invisible pink unicorns, or a teapot orbiting mars, it is possible but it is not 50/50, but in fact HIGHLY improbable and please don't evoke Bayesian argument or Aquinas five proofs, they are utterly ridiculous.
TheRadicalRabbit 4 years ago
And fellow rabbit, sadly he does know his scripture. yes it may say that in matt 7:1 but in matt 5:17 jesus says "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets" Similar passages can be found at Luke 16:17, Timothy 3:16, Mark 7:9-13, John 7:19. So according to the NT the rules of the OT still apply, hence the murder of witches, homosexuals, adulterer, followers of other religions, disobedient children, people working on the Sabbath, etc, are all demanded by god
TheRadicalRabbit 4 years ago
Religon allows people to imagine their concerns are moral when they are highly immoral- pressing these concerns inflicts appalling suffering on innocent human beings. Christians like to expend more "moral" energy opposing abortion then fighting genocide, it explains why they preach against condom use in sub-Saharan Africa where millions die from aids each year, and are more concerned with a 150 cell human embryo more then the life of a 7 year old girl with severe spinal cord injury.
TheRadicalRabbit 4 years ago
"Religon allows people to imagine their concerns are moral when they are highly immoral" Correct... its corrupt logic that allows people to do this because you still find it secular and anti-religious societies. Morality is not the common variable.
bryankelly 4 years ago
laughing at a typo is ignorant
bryankelly 4 years ago
and the towers where burnt by jet fuel, carpet, the metal from the plain, the seats from the plain, the computer screens, computer monitors, desks, chairs, carpet and on and on. And your point being??? show me an consensus of experts in this field who agree with you that the fire could not collapse the building. Forget consensus, how about just a hand full?
bryankelly 4 years ago
I don't hate god, your god, nor zeus, mythra, allah, durja, or chaac, they simply do not exist. So if you don't mind, keep your hateful little delusions to yourself. We do not need your insane, irrational bronze age dogma poisoning the minds of children. Maybe before you have your imaginary friend damn me to an eternity of suffering you should try developing your own code of ethics and morality instead of defaulting to the barbaric text of your so-called holy book.
TheRadicalRabbit 4 years ago
"so-called" "barbaric" "imaginary friend" "delusions"... and you called (who ever your calling) "hateful"... my gawd you spit out more insults in one post than I've ever seen in my life. But thats what atheist are good at I guess. Try reading William Golding's "Thinking as a Hobby"
bryankelly 4 years ago
History of skyscrapers is so safe, because we know alot about what causes a skyscraper to collapse thus we put measure to prevent it, even though none have. We know they can collapse from physics, chemistry and structural engineering. We know what kind of heat is needed. Which is why we train fire fighters to look for the signs and evacuate, because every aspect of science tells us it can happen.
bryankelly 4 years ago
OMG laugh at a misspelling... is that even funny on youtube???
how about leninist as in leninism... wiki it if youre that stupid
bryankelly 4 years ago
your right its not a "liberal conspiracy". Its also an anarchist conspiracy, and a neo-comunist conspiracy and a neo-marxism conspiracy, and a lenonist conspiracy, and all the other anti-capitalist groups out their conspiracy. What fools you people are! *fist in sky*
bryankelly 4 years ago
ron paul????
-Against stem cell research.
-Against abortion.
-Against equal marriage rights.
-Supports "protecting" the pledge. (Whatever that's supposed to mean. Keeping "GOD" in it, I would assume)
-Supports banning gays from adopting.
-Supports use of government money to support religious schools.
-Supports a CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT ENCOURAGING SCHOOL PRAYER
TheRadicalRabbit 4 years ago
Hi I am Rudy Giuliani. I am all about saving money, remember I was the one that chose to throw all the bodies from September 11th in the trash. But I still like to use the fact that I was mayor of New York when I was attacked. I am a pretty good actor (sometimes) *blush*. My hobbies are flip-flopping, battleship and scaring kids.
STUDENTS FOR RON PAUL 08'
whoseurgranny 4 years ago
Dont this guys realize they are on tape when they lie. What a bunch of morons....RUDY BUILDING 7 CAME DOWN IN 8SEC's... OH GOD...RON PAUL 08
ponder2006 4 years ago
Which is exactly how you know they are mistaken rather than lieing... you moron
bryankelly 4 years ago
Time will tell.
freightmaster1 4 years ago
no $#!T one of these days one of these evil f#@kers are going to slip
interceptor6fen 4 years ago
The WTC fire was even hotter, so it melted the steel bolts then imploded under the strain. LIBERAL CONSPIRACIES ARE NUTS!!!!
Zile77 4 years ago
actually common sense which you don't have.
krdando 4 years ago
Tanker Truck Fire Collapses Bay Area Overpass 4/29/07 At a noontime press conference held at a toll plaza near the collapse, Mr. Kempton said the heat from the fireball had most likely melted the steel girders and bolts that supported the concrete roadway. "If you have that kind of heat," he said, "you're going to have this kind of reaction. We're not surprised by this result."
Zile77 4 years ago
I meant about his lisping;)
edisonoside 4 years ago
7 fell in stages? Maybe he meant that 7 was "suppost" to fall in stages.
President Elect Ron Paul ya'll!
(don't be afraid of a REAL Texan - Bush is from Conn. and is deathly afraid of horses)
nathanlahue 4 years ago
Hid dad was a mob boss. What scum. These people will pay, by the hand of God and the hand of man.
RON PAUL REVOLUTION HAS BEGUN. PEOPLE YOU MUST FIGHT FOR YOUR LIFE NOW....
3005kensington 4 years ago
Giuliani is so delusional so much so that it's unbelievable. What a lisping idiot! Wasn't one of his his offices in WTC7? Shouldn't he be concerned and raise questions about the instability of the building that he worked in? A building that collapsed due to small fires? How could he have worked in such a weak building? Aren't there extra safety codes for such high government offices? Am I the first and only to bring this up?
edisonoside 4 years ago
Giuliani is trying pretty hard to convince us of his lies. He is a desparate man thanks to Ron Paul for exposing the truth behind the lies of these mentally deranged pathological liars in the organized crime club nwo. Perhaps it is time to get neck sizes and fit them with a nice hemp rope neck tie. For the organized crime info go to hawks cafe dot com
PanamaJez 4 years ago
Hello fellow american
Giuliani is out of control.
All we hear from him is 9/11, but do you remember Rudy before then?
WE sure do.
Check out what our fellow ferrets are saying about him:
Just Search for nyferrets on youtube
Yours truly,
mike
leader of the ny ferrets
member of ferrets for freedom
nyferrets 4 years ago
Go to hell Rudy! Ron Paul 08
EpicBuilder 4 years ago
WTC 7 won't go away, Rudy.
OtherOne81 4 years ago
According to Guilliani they knew the building would collapse, but they didn't do anything to prevent the firefighters from going in? He's either a liar or evil bastard.
CannedMango 4 years ago
he is so annoying
billgermany2000 4 years ago
Lynch this evil fuck. Tear him limb from limb!
xCyanoticx 4 years ago
Tell that to all the fire men who perished, you fuckin moron Gulliani! They want your filthy ass!!
makkertje 4 years ago
WTF is he talking so authoritatively about this matter - is he a trained structural engineer - frickin moron!
winrx 4 years ago
Can you believe that this idiot says " we knew the building was going to collapse the way that all buildings collapse" but no other steel framed building has ever fallen from fire.A,B there was a bunker inside that building that was a secure bunker with fireproff rooms and comunication, water,food the building was built to withstand dangerous conditions and it just fell....RIGHT!
Chibangs 4 years ago
straight lies. the only positive thing about this is we now can identify rudy's tell tale signs when he lies. he is repulsive.
greenback001 4 years ago
Try saying ..great work Rudi.Thank you for keeping sanity in NY while panic wastrying to settle in.Thank you for moving the media and everyone fromthe base of the towers..Thank you Mr Giuliani for heeding my warning.
blueshadow1996 4 years ago